**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 4 01:32:31 2005 Jan 04 01:32:31 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 04 01:32:31 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | | 15 minute silence scheduled for Wednesday 5th January 2005 at 12:00pm UTC as a mark of respect for those killed in the recent Asian natural disaster and Argentinian fire. | Rampantly-unofficial Slackware support....we've moved to ##slackware, but we're still the same folks! http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl Jan 04 01:32:31 --- Topic for ##slackware set by lilo at Tue Jan 4 00:56:00 2005 Jan 04 01:32:31 -ChanServ- [##slackware] If you've been forwarded to ##slackware you should "/part #slackware" in case your client is confused! Jan 04 01:32:31 heh Jan 04 01:32:34 *sigh* Jan 04 01:32:36 --- You are now known as smps Jan 04 01:32:38 * eelriverlt <-- Is 25, single and not as skinny in this dimension Jan 04 01:32:48 then i shall post my problem again: Jan 04 01:32:51 when i go to do any make phase of the kernel compilation, i get 580 lines saying "make[1] *** [all]Interrupt" Jan 04 01:32:58 putz I may have missed something Jan 04 01:33:05 ananke, long story, short: 2 of the slackware ops were banned from the channel yesterday and the accesslist was changed Jan 04 01:33:12 buggaboo, I'll repeat them to you, do you mind if I PM you? Jan 04 01:33:13 eelriverlt, your daughter is in college? Jan 04 01:33:20 I still don't get why its ##slackware now ? Jan 04 01:33:23 no I don't mind. Jan 04 01:33:23 <-- phrag (~phrag@phra.gs) has left ##slackware Jan 04 01:33:23 --> phrag (~phrag@phra.gs) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:33:27 where are some fast slackware mirrors Jan 04 01:33:38 i don't feel like waiting a few days to get on linux again Jan 04 01:34:00 buzzedlightyear, In the other dimension, yeah. This is a new dimension so I'm making sh*t up Jan 04 01:34:51 notwarez : you can try my mirror. it's my hostname. Jan 04 01:34:51 hmm, 25 mins to sugar bowl. Jan 04 01:35:13 ergh Jan 04 01:35:29 try the bittorrent network for a fast d/l Jan 04 01:36:02 --> At0mic_PC (1000@216.78.69.138) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:36:06 --> kanavah0 (1000@ar2227.usr.microlink.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:36:12 darkarcon2015, Have you compiled a kernel with your current version of gcc before? Jan 04 01:36:16 ananke, inferno.bioinformatics.vit.edu ? Jan 04 01:36:16 man is phpmyadmin ever dead Jan 04 01:37:04 --> testerdude (pho-@221.3.116.21) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:37:30 notwarez : except it's vt.edu not vit.edu Jan 04 01:37:36 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:37:39 Lol Jan 04 01:37:45 anyone tried topologilinux? I have an old but very light and cool laptop here, pii233mmx .. thinking of installing topologilinux instead of slackware as it only has 32 ram atm Jan 04 01:37:47 eelriverlt: no, i installed the premade 2.4.26 kernel with slackware Jan 04 01:38:08 --> chii (chii@chii.utility.freenode) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:38:12 --> alindeman (adml@alindeman-gallery.staff.freenode) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:38:45 ananke, How do the other new -current packages look besides mdadm? Jan 04 01:38:45 testerdude - well, the ram issue will bite you irrespective of the distro - it's based on what apps you want to run. Jan 04 01:38:59 eelrv: the others seem ok Jan 04 01:39:24 darkarcon2015, Have you compiled anything since the install Jan 04 01:39:36 could someone help me to find out if 2.6.10 kernel has a medium security fault or is it my box? Jan 04 01:40:02 eelriverlt: oh yeah, gcc works Jan 04 01:40:02 --> W|GG-Laptop (~deez@ip68-98-179-238.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:40:02 <-- Cirkit has quit (Client Quit) Jan 04 01:40:02 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:40:04 ananke, Cool, thanks. I don't have raid anyway, so shouldn't be a problem Jan 04 01:40:04 carlosm : be more specific Jan 04 01:40:04 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:40:04 i guess my main question is, does toplogilinux have a significantly lower footprint than slackware or not Jan 04 01:40:13 thanks guys... chow time.. be back. bye Jan 04 01:40:24 <-- ryen has quit ("What would we find, if we were to look behind the border of the Universe?") Jan 04 01:40:24 <-- JiMMy-JaKAzz (~JiMMy-JaK@Sherbrooke-HSE-ppp3610640.sympatico.ca) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 04 01:40:34 testerdude - err.. I've never run it, but slackware's footprint can be about as small as you need it to be. Jan 04 01:40:40 --> bubba_ (~bubba@c-67-171-159-156.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:40:41 darkarcon2015, Does this error start right at the get go, or in the middle of the compile? Jan 04 01:40:41 damn...gotta restart the bot after 180+ days of uptime Jan 04 01:40:42 testerdude - how much disk storage does it have? Jan 04 01:40:46 3gig Jan 04 01:40:48 ananke: i was able to write a file as with root as the owner and I was using an unprivileged account Jan 04 01:41:02 it works sweet in 95, got mp3s going and image viewing working very fast Jan 04 01:41:07 W|GG-Laptop, sh*t happens ;) Jan 04 01:41:12 --> newbie^ (1000@85.96.96.21) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:41:19 yeah Jan 04 01:41:21 carlosm : you'd have to be more specific than that Jan 04 01:41:24 testerdude - well, I'd personally go with slackware on that.. only because I know it well, it's a very mature distro, and I can make it fit in tight spaces ;) Jan 04 01:41:32 so... what happened to #slackware? Jan 04 01:41:32 damn any one good with phpmyadmin ? Jan 04 01:41:34 I have tested the same way with 2.6.9 and before kernels and it doesnt works Jan 04 01:41:35 all i want to do is use it for typing, a terminal for other machines and maybe to dump some CF-card files from my camera Jan 04 01:41:42 testerdude - fwiw, I have slack 8 on a P90/16MB/1.4GB Jan 04 01:41:47 bubba_: it moved here Jan 04 01:41:59 --> mall0ry (~mel@ip68-14-182-183.pn.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:42:12 <-- mall0ry (~mel@ip68-14-182-183.pn.at.cox.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 04 01:42:17 legendre: i've been using slack since slack 3, i know i 'can' run it, i was mainly interested to see if anyone knew if topologilinux's default configuration was more suitable Jan 04 01:42:26 i guess not, i'll just install slack10 and customise Jan 04 01:42:40 UdontKnow, sorry to have bothered you with the memo yesterday Jan 04 01:42:47 <-- dragonagenta (~dragonage@evrtwa1-ar9-4-65-243-091.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 04 01:42:53 ananke: I was able to create a file like this "-rw-r--r-- 1 root users 0 2005-01-03 16:37 prueba" and i'm not the root and doesnt have permission to do it Jan 04 01:42:53 eelriverlt: right when I start "make" it repeats the line "make -C /usr/src/linux-2.6.10 O=/usr/src/linux-2.6.10" a lot, then it says the pervious one that i posted Jan 04 01:42:53 testerdude - since slack is much better known that topologinix, I'd ask the topologinix folks ;) Jan 04 01:43:03 carlosm : i got that part. the question is: how Jan 04 01:43:11 i tried, they have no irc channel! :) Jan 04 01:43:17 those bastards. Jan 04 01:43:25 wth is up the channel? Jan 04 01:43:25 ##slackware ??? Jan 04 01:43:35 What's funny is that it almost actually feels like the channel did physically moved somewhere else. Jan 04 01:44:01 cSu|GuntherDW: /topic Jan 04 01:44:01 so, some help with raid/sis 180 controller.... I cant see my drives! Jan 04 01:44:01 ananke: first I created a folder into my home Jan 04 01:44:01 <-- deSilva has quit ("I'll see you later") Jan 04 01:44:01 i think it should be moved to ##drama still Jan 04 01:44:01 :) Jan 04 01:44:10 cSu|GuntherDW: yea, I noticed ##slackware, I thought something was wrong with my xchat Jan 04 01:44:17 nachox: memo yesterday? Jan 04 01:44:20 "mkdir test" ..then "chmod +s test" Jan 04 01:44:39 but why the 2 #'s Jan 04 01:44:49 UdontKnow, you do never check them do you? :P Jan 04 01:44:54 nachox: ah, I see it Jan 04 01:44:54 ## == unoffical apparently Jan 04 01:45:08 nachox: its fixed, right? :) Jan 04 01:45:13 * Legendre did not know that. Jan 04 01:45:13 nachox: I do, sometimes. Jan 04 01:45:13 can we PLEASE put this in the /topic Jan 04 01:45:13 then "cd test" and finally "vi file" Jan 04 01:45:13 nachox: but I forgot today Jan 04 01:45:13 UdontKnow, yeah :) Jan 04 01:45:13 this is getting irritating Jan 04 01:45:21 Squall` - well, it's in there, kind of ;) Jan 04 01:45:25 nachox: I dont have to identify often Jan 04 01:45:25 ;) Jan 04 01:45:38 damnit Jan 04 01:45:38 i get an error message when i run my vmware machine like could not open /dev/vmmon +"no such device" please check vmmod module.. Jan 04 01:45:39 i left my screwdriver overseas Jan 04 01:45:42 Squall`: i was going to write up a slackwiki article...but i dont know what happened..and frankly, i dont really care that much. so, i didnt do it. Jan 04 01:45:42 * testerdude cannot open laptop Jan 04 01:45:44 I assumed the change was related to issues re: robrock Jan 04 01:45:44 is there anybody knows that i ll fix it Jan 04 01:45:49 oh so its a rull to tell the official channels and non ? I thought slackware was Jan 04 01:45:49 * testerdude goes shopping for screwdriver Jan 04 01:45:53 <-- testerdude has quit () Jan 04 01:45:59 rull/rule Jan 04 01:46:05 newbie^ - sounds like the vmware kernel modules are missing. Jan 04 01:46:12 oneforall : #slackware was never officially endorsed by pat Jan 04 01:46:28 newbie^ - or at lest the one that exports the /dev/vmmon stuff. Does /dev/vmmon even exist on your machine? Jan 04 01:46:30 i don't mind crap like ## as long as it applies equally to everybody Jan 04 01:46:35 ananke: I have found the problem is at the box Jan 04 01:46:38 ananke there any slackware channel that is Jan 04 01:46:46 yep Jan 04 01:47:01 where is the official slackware channel Jan 04 01:47:02 --> thiagomz (thiagomz@201.7.30.8) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:47:03 --> inflex (~PLD@dsl-171.156.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:47:07 Legendre, but it gives errors=( Jan 04 01:47:13 newbie^ - 'lsmod' and see if the vmware modules are loaded. Jan 04 01:47:21 oneforall : nope Jan 04 01:47:23 ananke yeah I doubt #gentoo is or slackcare or mambo or oscommerce etc Jan 04 01:47:26 darkarcon2015, Why don't you do a make mrproper, reconfig your kernel and try again Jan 04 01:47:31 --> Dominian (~dominian@dominian.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:47:32 newbie^ - as root run vmware-config.pl Jan 04 01:47:45 ah Jan 04 01:47:48 eelriverlt: i did a "make mrproper" Jan 04 01:47:49 I see the forward has been done Jan 04 01:47:51 btw, what does the 'mr' in 'mrproper' stand for? Jan 04 01:47:53 ok i try Jan 04 01:47:57 oneforall, i thing #gentoo is official Jan 04 01:48:03 no mdule loaded like vmmod Legendre Jan 04 01:48:08 my kernel 2.6.10 ok Jan 04 01:48:13 newbie^ - well, better fix that. Jan 04 01:48:27 newbie^ - sounds like the install went bad. Jan 04 01:48:38 eelriverlt: i also have this other weird problem, when i got make any kernel configurator all of a sudden after a few lines, a program that i made and compiled with g++ starts for no reason Jan 04 01:49:02 lol Jan 04 01:49:23 now *that's* messed up. Jan 04 01:49:28 darkarcon2015, Can you chmod -x that prog. ? Jan 04 01:49:38 sigh... any help with setting up raid ? Jan 04 01:49:43 ananke: sup Jan 04 01:50:06 eelriverlt: well, that program happened to feature a command that i programed into it, to end the program Jan 04 01:50:09 bubba_: what kind of raid? ide raid or scsi raid? Jan 04 01:50:22 eelriverlt: so i do that and the config runs as normal Jan 04 01:50:23 bubba_ - and linux md() raid, or hardware raid. Jan 04 01:50:30 ide, I cant see any drives on the controller... Jan 04 01:50:47 bubba_: recompile a kernel that includes the necessary modules. Jan 04 01:50:54 heh. Not really a slackware issue ;) Jan 04 01:50:56 its a sis 180 controller, and ive compiled kernel for it... Jan 04 01:51:16 bubba_ - do you see those drives at POST? Jan 04 01:51:20 --- notwarez is now known as I Jan 04 01:51:20 darkarcon2015, I'll bet that program is the one messing up the make too, It starts when ever gcc does and interupts your make commands Jan 04 01:51:20 the controller driver loads. it shows 2 channels. but no disks attatched . Jan 04 01:51:49 Legendre, yes, drives in post(in raid bios). Jan 04 01:52:10 ok, good. Jan 04 01:52:13 I spent the day yesterday installing XP, and it works in XP. Jan 04 01:52:13 to set the environment variable MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to your Mozilla installation folder, like /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.3 how do you set that so you don't have to keep setting each time you run a program? Jan 04 01:52:13 does dmesg see any drives? Jan 04 01:52:18 eelriverlt: hahaha, that is so messed up, the only program that i have ever made in Linux, screws everything up Jan 04 01:52:31 --> slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:52:31 <-- slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has left ##slackware Jan 04 01:52:31 damn Jan 04 01:52:31 Legendre, it only shows the ide drive on a different controller. Jan 04 01:52:31 --> IronBob (~ironbob@adsl-208-191-166-220.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:52:33 W|GG-Laptop, ! Jan 04 01:52:36 <-- I has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 04 01:52:37 --> slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:52:37 <-- slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has left ##slackware Jan 04 01:52:40 <-- crackerjack has quit ("Ik ga weg") Jan 04 01:52:41 hi squall Jan 04 01:52:46 darkarcon2015, I'm not a programmer, but I'll bet there's something in there calling gcc Jan 04 01:52:48 bubba_ - but you can see the Sis driver load in dmesg, correct? Just no drives enumerated? Jan 04 01:52:48 dmesg sees the controller, but lists no drives.. Jan 04 01:52:49 what's new? Jan 04 01:52:53 damn bot won't stay in the channel Jan 04 01:53:02 bubba_ - ok.. good info. Keep it coming ;) Jan 04 01:53:06 Squall`, not much...trying to bring the logbot in the new channel Jan 04 01:53:07 ata1: no device found (phy stat 00000000) Jan 04 01:53:11 eelriverlt: but i compiled it with g++ Jan 04 01:53:19 unsuccessfully Jan 04 01:53:23 --> firefox (~zomgwindo@adsl-8-204-229.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:53:28 smart bot Jan 04 01:53:29 :) Jan 04 01:53:31 bubba_ - are the drives configured for a RAID inthe controller BIOS? Jan 04 01:53:38 --> slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:53:38 <-- slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has left ##slackware Jan 04 01:53:40 --- firefox is now known as notwarez Jan 04 01:53:42 --- notwarez is now known as notwarez2 Jan 04 01:53:50 cool it nicky. Jan 04 01:53:58 Legendre, yeah... its setup for a striped drive (raid 0) Jan 04 01:54:16 darkarcon2015, Like I said, I'm not a programmer :) Jan 04 01:54:25 --> MacGuyver (~amaral@200.174.116.164) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:54:32 eelriverlt: oh well Jan 04 01:54:32 i wish i could reformat Jan 04 01:54:32 --- notwarez2 is now known as notwarez Jan 04 01:54:34 I know to run export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME= Jan 04 01:54:34 bubba_ - is the sis raid driver compiled into the kernel staticly? Jan 04 01:54:46 --> slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:54:46 <-- slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has left ##slackware Jan 04 01:54:57 but you have to do that all the time Jan 04 01:54:57 but then i would lose my php and mysql, which took forever to get working Jan 04 01:54:57 Legendre, yeah, so is libata Jan 04 01:55:21 bubba_ - ok.. are you sure that you do not need to pass the driver some args at boottime, to make it register the raid? Jan 04 01:55:38 --> slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:55:38 <-- slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has left ##slackware Jan 04 01:55:52 I tried loading them as modules... but after that didnt work, i compiled them into the kernel... Jan 04 01:55:54 darkarcon2015, Stop them and your program, compile, and start them up again. Or compile in runlevel 1 Jan 04 01:56:03 the bot is confused about the new channel Jan 04 01:56:09 <-- Straterra has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 04 01:56:20 bubba_ - I'd read the documention for that driver, if you haven't done that. It's in the kernel src tree. Jan 04 01:56:45 Tell the bot not to feel like the Lone Ranger Jan 04 01:56:45 hum Jan 04 01:56:45 well... somewhere in one of the hundereds of docs ive read, it mentioned disabling acpi, apic, and lapic... I treid, but got a bunch of errors in dmesg. Jan 04 01:57:22 bubba_ - it sounds like this is a soft-hardware raid controller, right? Jan 04 01:57:30 the weird thing about this program of mine, is that i erased the "a.out" that it created in the build Jan 04 01:57:34 --> slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:57:37 yeah... its onboard, but i think its really software based. Jan 04 01:57:37 --> andrea (~opera@200.122.157.40) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:57:40 yes Jan 04 01:57:46 W|GG-Laptop: channel set ##slackware Jan 04 01:57:49 ?? Jan 04 01:57:49 ok...that wasn't all that hard Jan 04 01:57:54 fixed it Jan 04 01:57:56 bubba_ - well, fwiw.. you might do just as well or better to use the Linux md stuff for it. Jan 04 01:58:04 i was working with the wrong .conf file Jan 04 01:58:09 hehe Jan 04 01:58:10 i keep a backup also :o) Jan 04 01:58:10 Legendre, I think i tried that too... Jan 04 01:58:14 bubba_ - if you're going to do software raid, mighat as well do it on the OS side. Jan 04 01:58:31 <-- toshin has quit ("-") Jan 04 01:58:32 somewhere it mentioned that the linux raid works better than the soft-hardware raid. Jan 04 01:58:38 i should change its nick Jan 04 01:58:44 bubba_ - that is the general consensus, yes. Jan 04 01:58:59 bubba_ : and wtf is 'soft-hardware raid'? Jan 04 01:59:11 ananke - that was my mangling, thank you! Jan 04 01:59:20 I tried some of that stuff.. it uses dmraid (in 2.6 kernel) Jan 04 01:59:21 good one. now explain what it is Jan 04 01:59:28 * inflex blinks and wonders WTF we're ## Jan 04 01:59:49 lol Jan 04 01:59:49 more hash Jan 04 01:59:49 I mean, an onboard raid controller, that is really juse software based, like an HPT-370 etc. Jan 04 01:59:52 ananke, well.. there are a bunch of "raid" controllers that require software (os software) for them to work... Jan 04 01:59:55 Legendre : so it's software raid. not hardware. Jan 04 02:00:01 not the good ones Jan 04 02:00:02 Legendre: I hate those onboard hybrid soft/hard RAID controllers Jan 04 02:00:05 ananke, real hardware raid is OS independant... Jan 04 02:00:06 ananke - right.. Jan 04 02:00:06 now, need to check the stats Jan 04 02:00:16 the good ones have only a small driver Jan 04 02:00:27 aka fakeraid Jan 04 02:00:28 well, even a software based on-board raid is OS independent. Jan 04 02:00:29 you shouldn't need a driver to use RAID Jan 04 02:00:35 or should be. Jan 04 02:00:54 --> spenser (~spenser@user-0c8hmse.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:01:04 inflex : sure you do. try any true hardware raid card without drivers. Jan 04 02:01:17 Legendre, well.. I think you have to install the xp driver before it works... Jan 04 02:01:17 that is, to configure it, obviously you'll still need a SCSI driver or similar to access the card Jan 04 02:01:17 w00t 5 clock Jan 04 02:01:29 time to go home Jan 04 02:01:29 <-- buzzedlightyear (~buzzedlig@68-116-50-50.or.charter.com) has left ##slackware ("leaving....") Jan 04 02:01:38 irrespective of how it is handled, a 'raid' controller should abstract the multiple devices in a way that any IDE driver can read them. Or maybe I'm on crack. Jan 04 02:01:38 <-- andrea (~opera@200.122.157.40) has left ##slackware Jan 04 02:01:48 for IDE raid I mean, scsi is different. Jan 04 02:01:49 the difference is simple. with true hardware raid, the driver only talks to the card, and doesn't take care of actually managing the data placement/etc Jan 04 02:01:50 <-- darkarcon2015 has quit ("Leaving") Jan 04 02:02:18 correct - true RAID you only see a singular drive, with software raid you see the individual hardware drives Jan 04 02:02:44 anyway... ive been tryin for several days now, and im soo damn confused about everytihing ive read, i dont know what to do next. Jan 04 02:02:48 inflex - even with a software raid that is based in the chipset, and has its own BIOS? Jan 04 02:02:54 with true hardware raid you see as many drives as you have logical drives declared in your raid Jan 04 02:02:58 * Legendre isn't so sure. Jan 04 02:03:23 bubba_ : start with google, and + 'linux' Jan 04 02:03:23 <-- newbie^ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 04 02:03:29 Legendre: are you referring to those $30 RAID1 type cards? Jan 04 02:03:47 man you know since the channel had that name for so many years not all ppl are going to think of adding an extra#. they should have just made it so the topic allways had and can't be changed to say UNofficial Jan 04 02:03:47 ananke, oh, ive done that for 4 days now... I think ive read everyhing, and know nothing. Jan 04 02:03:57 inflex - well, to junk like the hpt-370 that came on my KT7-RAID board. Jan 04 02:04:04 oneforall: it's autoforwading #slackware to here Jan 04 02:04:20 --> Packeteer (~zed@53.75.233.220.exetel.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:04:30 bubba_: ananke is giving you good advice. Jan 04 02:04:35 so, where is the /official/ slackare channel? Jan 04 02:04:38 I doubt very much they can't have it where when you change the topic it allways auto adds that eh Jan 04 02:04:39 A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous, got me? Jan 04 02:04:49 hrmmm...question: in slackware, where do i put regular user commands that i want to run at bootup Jan 04 02:04:52 Dominian, yes, I know, like I said, I did do that, have been for days. Jan 04 02:04:53 ? Jan 04 02:04:58 W|GG-Laptop - rc.local Jan 04 02:05:02 W|GG-Laptop: /etc/rc.d/rc.local Jan 04 02:05:02 Dominian yeah but for how long Jan 04 02:05:04 bubba_: shouldn't tak edays Jan 04 02:05:09 ahah Jan 04 02:05:10 isn't that for root? Jan 04 02:05:12 or any? Jan 04 02:05:15 Dominian, no, it shouldnt. Jan 04 02:05:21 <-- fhobia has quit ("Leaving") Jan 04 02:05:30 W|GG-Laptop - joe user does not run commands at boot :p Jan 04 02:05:33 hmm, sugar bowl is starting. die auburn, die Jan 04 02:05:33 W|GG-Laptop: any - if you have to start as a particular user, then use su Jan 04 02:05:33 W|GG-Laptop, .bash.rc? /etc/profile? /etc/profiled/* ? Jan 04 02:05:43 go auburn go Jan 04 02:05:45 i need a command to run on bootup...i can't run it as root due to security considerations Jan 04 02:05:48 not possible? Jan 04 02:05:51 ananke: auburn in west sydney? Jan 04 02:05:53 nachox, ahhhhh Jan 04 02:05:54 bubba_: hardware raid is not all that hard to understand Jan 04 02:05:55 W|GG-Laptop: read what I said Jan 04 02:06:01 W|GG-Laptop - sudo for that Jan 04 02:06:02 W|GG-Laptop : sudo, su -c Jan 04 02:06:02 W|GG-Laptop: here's an example.... Jan 04 02:06:16 Packeteer : nah. alabama [if i recall correctly] Jan 04 02:06:21 Dominian, your really not being helpful with your suggestions. I would love it if you were... Jan 04 02:06:24 su - ircd -c "cd /home/ircd/ircd; ./ircd -f ircd.conf; echo 'done.'" Jan 04 02:06:48 W|GG-Laptop: You should be able to execute a script as a user.. in rc.local using su then the scrip tfrom there.. iirc Jan 04 02:07:05 ananke: heh, well i used to work in Auburn (Sydney) :) Jan 04 02:07:05 bubba_: You don't follow me.. you are doing hardware raid on what typ eof system? Jan 04 02:07:05 ananke - happy new year to you , btw.. hope it treats you well ;) Jan 04 02:07:27 --> juice (~juice@mo-65-41-197-57.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:07:27 happy new beer! Jan 04 02:07:27 <-- theron has quit ("Leaving") Jan 04 02:07:27 Legendre : so far so good. it's awefully warm :) Jan 04 02:07:27 W|GG-Laptop, oops, my bad, use su Jan 04 02:07:27 su -c won't ask for a password? Jan 04 02:07:54 ananke: Man is it ever.. for January.. it was 60 where I live where the average temp is lik 20 Jan 04 02:07:54 it should Jan 04 02:07:54 W|GG-Laptop: it's running as root... root is allowed anywhere ;-) Jan 04 02:07:54 hell, lemme try it Jan 04 02:07:54 umm Jan 04 02:07:54 this is pretty much the best site ive seen that allows you to get a firm grasp on how the differnt RAID levels work. Just click on the # bar at the top to change levels: http://www.acnc.com/04_01_00.html Jan 04 02:07:55 i dont think so, youre running su as root Jan 04 02:07:55 W|GG-Laptop: not if root does it Jan 04 02:07:55 rc.local is executed as root.. su -c should NOT as for a password if you do it as root to anothe ruser Jan 04 02:07:55 Dominian : i was in a short sleeve shirt. it was like 65F today Jan 04 02:07:55 Dominian, OK. I have a new motherboard that has a sis 180 controller, it controlls 2 sata, 2 eide (ata133) drives. I have 2 ata133 drives connected. Jan 04 02:07:59 ananke: me too Jan 04 02:08:21 inflex, the problem is (i thought i said this) that this particular command shouldn't be run as root Jan 04 02:08:21 --> elius (~elius@dialup-62-0-75-130.tlv.netvision.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:08:21 ananke, you tell me 35C here at 10:10 pm :P Jan 04 02:08:27 W|GG-Laptop: the command won't run as root using su -c Jan 04 02:08:27 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:08:27 so, su -c looks to be it, i guess Jan 04 02:08:37 thx Jan 04 02:08:37 W|GG-Laptop: correct, the command I showed you just before invokes ircd as the user 'ircd' Jan 04 02:08:43 W|GG-Laptop: give it a shot .. see what happens Jan 04 02:08:43 nachox : nobody cares about down under :) Jan 04 02:08:43 ahhhhhh Jan 04 02:08:45 * W|GG-Laptop is a bit slow today Jan 04 02:08:48 must be the wine Jan 04 02:08:57 bubba_: sis 180 controller. who makes those.. I need to pull up the specs on it Jan 04 02:09:17 ananke, heh, i love discrimination, but damn, it hurts ;) Jan 04 02:09:17 bubba_: and what type of raid are you tryin gto do? Jan 04 02:09:18 what I am still not sure of is how it is that when I did RAID5 on mandrake, i needed an /etc/raidtab, but when i formatted that and put on slackware10 (keeping the same partitions) it knew exactly how to setup the raid with no raidtab. it even knew to make /boot RAID1 and the rest RAID5 Jan 04 02:09:19 BTW, the motherboard has another ide controller, which ive put an additional drive on, and have booted the system on ... Jan 04 02:09:21 erm, SiS Jan 04 02:09:28 why did the channel move? Jan 04 02:09:42 Silicon integrated something or other Jan 04 02:09:42 juice: very very very long story Jan 04 02:09:42 W|GG-Laptop: busy work life? Jan 04 02:09:52 very Jan 04 02:09:53 i thought that type of info was kept in the /etc/raidtab file, so i dunno where it got it from Jan 04 02:09:53 i'm gonna quit soon Jan 04 02:09:58 okay maybe i should ask what is ## Jan 04 02:10:00 lol Jan 04 02:10:04 lol Jan 04 02:10:05 <-- buggaboo has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 04 02:10:07 W|GG-Laptop: Heya Jan 04 02:10:14 SiegeX, yeah... im setting up a raid0 (2 identical disks) Jan 04 02:10:14 --> r00tsh3ll (~r00tsh3ll@201.10.169.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:10:15 W|GG-Laptop: something better come up? Jan 04 02:10:16 juice: it's a new edition of "Virtual Trading Spaces"... the SuSE guys are redoing #slackware, we're redoing #gentoo, etc. Jan 04 02:10:16 #slackware is reserved for pat now Jan 04 02:10:17 juice, hmm, ok maybe we should tell you to read the topic :P Jan 04 02:10:24 SiegeX : you probably had selected to create persistent superblock Jan 04 02:10:26 hi FriedBob...how's it going? Jan 04 02:10:26 bubba_: bad idea Jan 04 02:10:36 bubba_: raid0 is a very bad idea imho Jan 04 02:10:39 XGizzmo, i've been actively looking Jan 04 02:10:40 raid1 is what you want Jan 04 02:10:41 I have lots of docs on the chipset, what did you want to know ? Jan 04 02:10:42 found a few Jan 04 02:11:03 Im looking for speed, and size, not stability. doing video editing, not webhosting. Jan 04 02:11:03 W|GG-Laptop: Not bad, overall. Touch tired, but that's nothing new. Why the move, out of curiosity? Jan 04 02:11:08 W|GG-Laptop: good luck hope you find something good for you and your family Jan 04 02:11:11 i just need to find a job that will pay my NG tuition since i took that CISSP course a few months ago Jan 04 02:11:13 topic says we moved is it lol Jan 04 02:11:17 ananke: rings a bell but not 100%, anyway if i did, anyway that superblock would contain on the pertient info that the raidtab file would hold? Jan 04 02:11:26 s/on/all Jan 04 02:11:39 bubba_: You do realize that in a raid0 array.. you lose one drive.. you lose all data on both drives? Jan 04 02:11:42 Dominian, understand why I want raid0? is that ok with you ? Jan 04 02:11:51 Dominian, yes. Jan 04 02:11:54 i mean if you get forward to here what's the point to move :P Jan 04 02:11:56 bubba_: You can be a smartass all you want.. I'm just letting you know the risk. Jan 04 02:12:05 FriedBob, lilo wanted to free up #slackware for other possible future projects Jan 04 02:12:05 bubba_: if you can get one more disk you can go with RAID5 and get RAID0 like speeds but with parity Jan 04 02:12:12 FriedBob et al: Freenode (irc network) has a policy that "unofficial" channels should use ## instead of #. Seems like they are going to be enforcing that soon so it was pre-emptive bit shifting on the parts of the dudes who run this channel Jan 04 02:12:14 from the specs: Support RAID 0, RAID1, RAID0+1 and JBOD by software Jan 04 02:12:19 FriedBob, just like he did #linux Jan 04 02:12:22 it's supports raid via software only.. not hardware Jan 04 02:12:23 brb Jan 04 02:12:24 I have a 160 gig drive for storing stuff... I want to run off the raid, and do editing with the raid. Jan 04 02:12:33 that is if you are doing software raid, otherwise most onboard mobo raid controllers dont do 5 afiak Jan 04 02:12:35 W|GG-Laptop: I see. Jan 04 02:12:48 I got lilo installed and working, and my sound more or less working. Jan 04 02:12:57 SiegeX, yeah, I could also buy 2 sata 200 gb drives and do raid 0 + 1 (aka raid 5). Jan 04 02:13:43 bubba_ : uhmm, if you want raid 0, then why not just use lvm? Jan 04 02:13:44 SiegeX, this one said it can in the manual... no reason to belive it wont. Jan 04 02:13:49 XGizzmo: oh yeah, slackboy is mine :o) Jan 04 02:13:53 hehe Jan 04 02:13:58 ananke, I dont know ? Jan 04 02:14:12 bubba_ : consider using lvm. Jan 04 02:14:15 would that be better for my needs ? Jan 04 02:14:19 well thats good that they are starting to support it because they havnt been for quite some time Jan 04 02:14:35 bubba_ : it would be easier to expand it in the future Jan 04 02:14:35 <-- Squall` has quit ("sandwich") Jan 04 02:14:39 It worked, but then I had to reboot due to some hardware issues (I think my burner might be crapping out) and now it doesn't play. Or is it RAM going bad? Haven't had time to investigate further yet Jan 04 02:14:51 I think this chipset is about a year old... support for it by last spring... Jan 04 02:15:18 --> snow_ru (~snow_ru@snow.dorms.spbu.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:15:19 hi Jan 04 02:15:23 bubba_: raid 0+1 requires 4 drives IIRC Jan 04 02:15:30 Any one use : amule ? Jan 04 02:15:31 unless you meant 2 addition drives on top of what you have now **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 4 02:15:31 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 4 23:58:58 2005 Jan 04 23:58:58 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 04 23:58:58 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | 15 minute silence scheduled for Wednesday 5th January 2005 at 12:00pm UTC as a mark of respect for those killed in the recent Asian natural disaster and Argentinian fire Jan 04 23:58:58 --- Topic for ##slackware set by nixor at Tue Jan 4 17:05:35 2005 Jan 04 23:58:58 -ChanServ- [##slackware] #slackware has moved to ##slackware to fit the freenode channel ownership policies a bit better. If you've been forwarded from #slackware, please "/part #slackware" so your client won't be confused! Jan 04 23:58:58 --- ##slackware :[freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup Jan 04 23:59:04 SiegeX : yep 2.5 Jan 04 23:59:49 what about warrentee? Jan 04 23:59:58 if its bleeding edge DDR i would go with corsair, if its midrange DDR thats been out for awhile I would save the money and get kingston Jan 05 00:00:09 damn....128 PC133 price is almost equal to 256 PC2700. meh.... Jan 05 00:00:19 all about supply & demand Jan 05 00:00:26 nobody makes that shit anymore Jan 05 00:00:30 * Papyrus considering his choice again to upgrading his SDRAM Jan 05 00:00:51 Kinda why my old machines with EDO ram only have 16 and 24 megs..the shit is too expensive Jan 05 00:00:53 good luck finding cheap EDO memory Jan 05 00:00:55 <-- Polorix has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:01:04 yeah.... Jan 05 00:01:18 how expensive is EDO now ? Jan 05 00:01:49 an arm and a leg Jan 05 00:01:56 I would venture a guess that you can get EDO either for REALLY cheap or REALLY expensive Jan 05 00:02:02 ok.. i think i want to buy SDRAM ONLY if i can find it for less than 30 $ Jan 05 00:02:15 really cheap if you find some old ass computer at a garage sale that has it, expensive if you buy it from a store Jan 05 00:02:27 SiegeX : yes Jan 05 00:03:15 http://www.kahlon.com/keyword_new.asp?ksearch=kah32x72%2Dbee Jan 05 00:03:25 oh shucks Jan 05 00:03:33 EDO is no more in production how i know Jan 05 00:03:39 i got a packard bell the other day with some weird looking ram.. i wonder if it's EDO Jan 05 00:03:43 it's got 4 sticks Jan 05 00:03:46 havent taken em out yet Jan 05 00:03:56 I gotta go eat dinner, BBIAB Jan 05 00:04:03 <-- tbird has quit () Jan 05 00:04:08 <-- quittt has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:04:12 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:04:34 ya, see i just bought a P3-400, 128 PC133, 6Gb HD for the same price as that 256MB stick of EDO Jan 05 00:04:41 edo is.....144 or 166 pin, eight ? Jan 05 00:04:50 *right Jan 05 00:04:57 SiegeX : hmm..for how much ? Jan 05 00:05:18 * kobs opens up packard bell Jan 05 00:05:32 it was like $45 at this PC surplus store, some old Compaq that im using to learn OpenBSD on now Jan 05 00:05:43 btw....what happen if i buy 4 ic or 8 ic type of SDRAM ? Jan 05 00:06:16 --> quittt (dsadas@200-170-123-107.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:06:53 dunno Jan 05 00:07:09 --> Dario (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:07:11 IIRC, PC100/133 is 168pin, and EDO is 72pin Jan 05 00:07:14 <-- avoca has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:07:21 does anyone know what NET WATCHDOG is? Jan 05 00:07:27 and DDR is 244, or something like that. Jan 05 00:07:49 uhm....i think SDRAM 168 and DDR 184 or 186. whatever.... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 5 00:07:57 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 5 00:08:08 2005 Jan 05 00:08:08 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 05 00:08:08 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | 15 minute silence scheduled for Wednesday 5th January 2005 at 12:00pm UTC as a mark of respect for those killed in the recent Asian natural disaster and Argentinian fire Jan 05 00:08:08 --- Topic for ##slackware set by nixor at Tue Jan 4 17:05:35 2005 Jan 05 00:08:08 -ChanServ- [##slackware] #slackware has moved to ##slackware to fit the freenode channel ownership policies a bit better. If you've been forwarded from #slackware, please "/part #slackware" so your client won't be confused! Jan 05 00:08:08 --- ##slackware :[freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup Jan 05 00:08:26 i wonder if these 4 ic or 8 ic SDRAM will run fine on my P3. some voices tell me 16 ic is more stable.... Jan 05 00:08:31 acidkill : dunno. i don't use it Jan 05 00:10:28 <-- SlackFart has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 05 00:10:46 --> MacGuyver (~amaral@200.208.213.47) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:10:47 --> crondom (~chatzilla@12.145.228.130) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:12:17 hm, all of the FAQs in the SELinux FAQ are #1 Jan 05 00:12:28 I think they were hacked Jan 05 00:12:52 --> meowwuff (~mreith@69.90.194.233) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:13:01 --> DuRaZNo (~alfreleca@200.106.25.35) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:13:03