**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 4 01:32:31 2005 Jan 04 01:32:31 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 04 01:32:31 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | | 15 minute silence scheduled for Wednesday 5th January 2005 at 12:00pm UTC as a mark of respect for those killed in the recent Asian natural disaster and Argentinian fire. | Rampantly-unofficial Slackware support....we've moved to ##slackware, but we're still the same folks! http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl Jan 04 01:32:31 --- Topic for ##slackware set by lilo at Tue Jan 4 00:56:00 2005 Jan 04 01:32:31 -ChanServ- [##slackware] If you've been forwarded to ##slackware you should "/part #slackware" in case your client is confused! Jan 04 01:32:31 heh Jan 04 01:32:34 *sigh* Jan 04 01:32:36 --- You are now known as smps Jan 04 01:32:38 * eelriverlt <-- Is 25, single and not as skinny in this dimension Jan 04 01:32:48 then i shall post my problem again: Jan 04 01:32:51 when i go to do any make phase of the kernel compilation, i get 580 lines saying "make[1] *** [all]Interrupt" Jan 04 01:32:58 putz I may have missed something Jan 04 01:33:05 ananke, long story, short: 2 of the slackware ops were banned from the channel yesterday and the accesslist was changed Jan 04 01:33:12 buggaboo, I'll repeat them to you, do you mind if I PM you? Jan 04 01:33:13 eelriverlt, your daughter is in college? Jan 04 01:33:20 I still don't get why its ##slackware now ? Jan 04 01:33:23 no I don't mind. Jan 04 01:33:23 <-- phrag (~phrag@phra.gs) has left ##slackware Jan 04 01:33:23 --> phrag (~phrag@phra.gs) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:33:27 where are some fast slackware mirrors Jan 04 01:33:38 i don't feel like waiting a few days to get on linux again Jan 04 01:34:00 buzzedlightyear, In the other dimension, yeah. This is a new dimension so I'm making sh*t up Jan 04 01:34:51 notwarez : you can try my mirror. it's my hostname. Jan 04 01:34:51 hmm, 25 mins to sugar bowl. Jan 04 01:35:13 ergh Jan 04 01:35:29 try the bittorrent network for a fast d/l Jan 04 01:36:02 --> At0mic_PC (1000@216.78.69.138) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:36:06 --> kanavah0 (1000@ar2227.usr.microlink.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:36:12 darkarcon2015, Have you compiled a kernel with your current version of gcc before? Jan 04 01:36:16 ananke, inferno.bioinformatics.vit.edu ? Jan 04 01:36:16 man is phpmyadmin ever dead Jan 04 01:37:04 --> testerdude (pho-@221.3.116.21) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:37:30 notwarez : except it's vt.edu not vit.edu Jan 04 01:37:36 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:37:39 Lol Jan 04 01:37:45 anyone tried topologilinux? I have an old but very light and cool laptop here, pii233mmx .. thinking of installing topologilinux instead of slackware as it only has 32 ram atm Jan 04 01:37:47 eelriverlt: no, i installed the premade 2.4.26 kernel with slackware Jan 04 01:38:08 --> chii (chii@chii.utility.freenode) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:38:12 --> alindeman (adml@alindeman-gallery.staff.freenode) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:38:45 ananke, How do the other new -current packages look besides mdadm? Jan 04 01:38:45 testerdude - well, the ram issue will bite you irrespective of the distro - it's based on what apps you want to run. Jan 04 01:38:59 eelrv: the others seem ok Jan 04 01:39:24 darkarcon2015, Have you compiled anything since the install Jan 04 01:39:36 could someone help me to find out if 2.6.10 kernel has a medium security fault or is it my box? Jan 04 01:40:02 eelriverlt: oh yeah, gcc works Jan 04 01:40:02 --> W|GG-Laptop (~deez@ip68-98-179-238.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:40:02 <-- Cirkit has quit (Client Quit) Jan 04 01:40:02 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:40:04 ananke, Cool, thanks. I don't have raid anyway, so shouldn't be a problem Jan 04 01:40:04 carlosm : be more specific Jan 04 01:40:04 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:40:04 i guess my main question is, does toplogilinux have a significantly lower footprint than slackware or not Jan 04 01:40:13 thanks guys... chow time.. be back. bye Jan 04 01:40:24 <-- ryen has quit ("What would we find, if we were to look behind the border of the Universe?") Jan 04 01:40:24 <-- JiMMy-JaKAzz (~JiMMy-JaK@Sherbrooke-HSE-ppp3610640.sympatico.ca) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 04 01:40:34 testerdude - err.. I've never run it, but slackware's footprint can be about as small as you need it to be. Jan 04 01:40:40 --> bubba_ (~bubba@c-67-171-159-156.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:40:41 darkarcon2015, Does this error start right at the get go, or in the middle of the compile? Jan 04 01:40:41 damn...gotta restart the bot after 180+ days of uptime Jan 04 01:40:42 testerdude - how much disk storage does it have? Jan 04 01:40:46 3gig Jan 04 01:40:48 ananke: i was able to write a file as with root as the owner and I was using an unprivileged account Jan 04 01:41:02 it works sweet in 95, got mp3s going and image viewing working very fast Jan 04 01:41:07 W|GG-Laptop, sh*t happens ;) Jan 04 01:41:12 --> newbie^ (1000@85.96.96.21) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:41:19 yeah Jan 04 01:41:21 carlosm : you'd have to be more specific than that Jan 04 01:41:24 testerdude - well, I'd personally go with slackware on that.. only because I know it well, it's a very mature distro, and I can make it fit in tight spaces ;) Jan 04 01:41:32 so... what happened to #slackware? Jan 04 01:41:32 damn any one good with phpmyadmin ? Jan 04 01:41:34 I have tested the same way with 2.6.9 and before kernels and it doesnt works Jan 04 01:41:35 all i want to do is use it for typing, a terminal for other machines and maybe to dump some CF-card files from my camera Jan 04 01:41:42 testerdude - fwiw, I have slack 8 on a P90/16MB/1.4GB Jan 04 01:41:47 bubba_: it moved here Jan 04 01:41:59 --> mall0ry (~mel@ip68-14-182-183.pn.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:42:12 <-- mall0ry (~mel@ip68-14-182-183.pn.at.cox.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 04 01:42:17 legendre: i've been using slack since slack 3, i know i 'can' run it, i was mainly interested to see if anyone knew if topologilinux's default configuration was more suitable Jan 04 01:42:26 i guess not, i'll just install slack10 and customise Jan 04 01:42:40 UdontKnow, sorry to have bothered you with the memo yesterday Jan 04 01:42:47 <-- dragonagenta (~dragonage@evrtwa1-ar9-4-65-243-091.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 04 01:42:53 ananke: I was able to create a file like this "-rw-r--r-- 1 root users 0 2005-01-03 16:37 prueba" and i'm not the root and doesnt have permission to do it Jan 04 01:42:53 eelriverlt: right when I start "make" it repeats the line "make -C /usr/src/linux-2.6.10 O=/usr/src/linux-2.6.10" a lot, then it says the pervious one that i posted Jan 04 01:42:53 testerdude - since slack is much better known that topologinix, I'd ask the topologinix folks ;) Jan 04 01:43:03 carlosm : i got that part. the question is: how Jan 04 01:43:11 i tried, they have no irc channel! :) Jan 04 01:43:17 those bastards. Jan 04 01:43:25 wth is up the channel? Jan 04 01:43:25 ##slackware ??? Jan 04 01:43:35 What's funny is that it almost actually feels like the channel did physically moved somewhere else. Jan 04 01:44:01 cSu|GuntherDW: /topic Jan 04 01:44:01 so, some help with raid/sis 180 controller.... I cant see my drives! Jan 04 01:44:01 ananke: first I created a folder into my home Jan 04 01:44:01 <-- deSilva has quit ("I'll see you later") Jan 04 01:44:01 i think it should be moved to ##drama still Jan 04 01:44:01 :) Jan 04 01:44:10 cSu|GuntherDW: yea, I noticed ##slackware, I thought something was wrong with my xchat Jan 04 01:44:17 nachox: memo yesterday? Jan 04 01:44:20 "mkdir test" ..then "chmod +s test" Jan 04 01:44:39 but why the 2 #'s Jan 04 01:44:49 UdontKnow, you do never check them do you? :P Jan 04 01:44:54 nachox: ah, I see it Jan 04 01:44:54 ## == unoffical apparently Jan 04 01:45:08 nachox: its fixed, right? :) Jan 04 01:45:13 * Legendre did not know that. Jan 04 01:45:13 nachox: I do, sometimes. Jan 04 01:45:13 can we PLEASE put this in the /topic Jan 04 01:45:13 then "cd test" and finally "vi file" Jan 04 01:45:13 nachox: but I forgot today Jan 04 01:45:13 UdontKnow, yeah :) Jan 04 01:45:13 this is getting irritating Jan 04 01:45:21 Squall` - well, it's in there, kind of ;) Jan 04 01:45:25 nachox: I dont have to identify often Jan 04 01:45:25 ;) Jan 04 01:45:38 damnit Jan 04 01:45:38 i get an error message when i run my vmware machine like could not open /dev/vmmon +"no such device" please check vmmod module.. Jan 04 01:45:39 i left my screwdriver overseas Jan 04 01:45:42 Squall`: i was going to write up a slackwiki article...but i dont know what happened..and frankly, i dont really care that much. so, i didnt do it. Jan 04 01:45:42 * testerdude cannot open laptop Jan 04 01:45:44 I assumed the change was related to issues re: robrock Jan 04 01:45:44 is there anybody knows that i ll fix it Jan 04 01:45:49 oh so its a rull to tell the official channels and non ? I thought slackware was Jan 04 01:45:49 * testerdude goes shopping for screwdriver Jan 04 01:45:53 <-- testerdude has quit () Jan 04 01:45:59 rull/rule Jan 04 01:46:05 newbie^ - sounds like the vmware kernel modules are missing. Jan 04 01:46:12 oneforall : #slackware was never officially endorsed by pat Jan 04 01:46:28 newbie^ - or at lest the one that exports the /dev/vmmon stuff. Does /dev/vmmon even exist on your machine? Jan 04 01:46:30 i don't mind crap like ## as long as it applies equally to everybody Jan 04 01:46:35 ananke: I have found the problem is at the box Jan 04 01:46:38 ananke there any slackware channel that is Jan 04 01:46:46 yep Jan 04 01:47:01 where is the official slackware channel Jan 04 01:47:02 --> thiagomz (thiagomz@201.7.30.8) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:47:03 --> inflex (~PLD@dsl-171.156.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:47:07 Legendre, but it gives errors=( Jan 04 01:47:13 newbie^ - 'lsmod' and see if the vmware modules are loaded. Jan 04 01:47:21 oneforall : nope Jan 04 01:47:23 ananke yeah I doubt #gentoo is or slackcare or mambo or oscommerce etc Jan 04 01:47:26 darkarcon2015, Why don't you do a make mrproper, reconfig your kernel and try again Jan 04 01:47:31 --> Dominian (~dominian@dominian.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:47:32 newbie^ - as root run vmware-config.pl Jan 04 01:47:45 ah Jan 04 01:47:48 eelriverlt: i did a "make mrproper" Jan 04 01:47:49 I see the forward has been done Jan 04 01:47:51 btw, what does the 'mr' in 'mrproper' stand for? Jan 04 01:47:53 ok i try Jan 04 01:47:57 oneforall, i thing #gentoo is official Jan 04 01:48:03 no mdule loaded like vmmod Legendre Jan 04 01:48:08 my kernel 2.6.10 ok Jan 04 01:48:13 newbie^ - well, better fix that. Jan 04 01:48:27 newbie^ - sounds like the install went bad. Jan 04 01:48:38 eelriverlt: i also have this other weird problem, when i got make any kernel configurator all of a sudden after a few lines, a program that i made and compiled with g++ starts for no reason Jan 04 01:49:02 lol Jan 04 01:49:23 now *that's* messed up. Jan 04 01:49:28 darkarcon2015, Can you chmod -x that prog. ? Jan 04 01:49:38 sigh... any help with setting up raid ? Jan 04 01:49:43 ananke: sup Jan 04 01:50:06 eelriverlt: well, that program happened to feature a command that i programed into it, to end the program Jan 04 01:50:09 bubba_: what kind of raid? ide raid or scsi raid? Jan 04 01:50:22 eelriverlt: so i do that and the config runs as normal Jan 04 01:50:23 bubba_ - and linux md() raid, or hardware raid. Jan 04 01:50:30 ide, I cant see any drives on the controller... Jan 04 01:50:47 bubba_: recompile a kernel that includes the necessary modules. Jan 04 01:50:54 heh. Not really a slackware issue ;) Jan 04 01:50:56 its a sis 180 controller, and ive compiled kernel for it... Jan 04 01:51:16 bubba_ - do you see those drives at POST? Jan 04 01:51:20 --- notwarez is now known as I Jan 04 01:51:20 darkarcon2015, I'll bet that program is the one messing up the make too, It starts when ever gcc does and interupts your make commands Jan 04 01:51:20 the controller driver loads. it shows 2 channels. but no disks attatched . Jan 04 01:51:49 Legendre, yes, drives in post(in raid bios). Jan 04 01:52:10 ok, good. Jan 04 01:52:13 I spent the day yesterday installing XP, and it works in XP. Jan 04 01:52:13 to set the environment variable MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to your Mozilla installation folder, like /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.3 how do you set that so you don't have to keep setting each time you run a program? Jan 04 01:52:13 does dmesg see any drives? Jan 04 01:52:18 eelriverlt: hahaha, that is so messed up, the only program that i have ever made in Linux, screws everything up Jan 04 01:52:31 --> slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:52:31 <-- slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has left ##slackware Jan 04 01:52:31 damn Jan 04 01:52:31 Legendre, it only shows the ide drive on a different controller. Jan 04 01:52:31 --> IronBob (~ironbob@adsl-208-191-166-220.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:52:33 W|GG-Laptop, ! Jan 04 01:52:36 <-- I has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 04 01:52:37 --> slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:52:37 <-- slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has left ##slackware Jan 04 01:52:40 <-- crackerjack has quit ("Ik ga weg") Jan 04 01:52:41 hi squall Jan 04 01:52:46 darkarcon2015, I'm not a programmer, but I'll bet there's something in there calling gcc Jan 04 01:52:48 bubba_ - but you can see the Sis driver load in dmesg, correct? Just no drives enumerated? Jan 04 01:52:48 dmesg sees the controller, but lists no drives.. Jan 04 01:52:49 what's new? Jan 04 01:52:53 damn bot won't stay in the channel Jan 04 01:53:02 bubba_ - ok.. good info. Keep it coming ;) Jan 04 01:53:06 Squall`, not much...trying to bring the logbot in the new channel Jan 04 01:53:07 ata1: no device found (phy stat 00000000) Jan 04 01:53:11 eelriverlt: but i compiled it with g++ Jan 04 01:53:19 unsuccessfully Jan 04 01:53:23 --> firefox (~zomgwindo@adsl-8-204-229.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:53:28 smart bot Jan 04 01:53:29 :) Jan 04 01:53:31 bubba_ - are the drives configured for a RAID inthe controller BIOS? Jan 04 01:53:38 --> slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:53:38 <-- slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has left ##slackware Jan 04 01:53:40 --- firefox is now known as notwarez Jan 04 01:53:42 --- notwarez is now known as notwarez2 Jan 04 01:53:50 cool it nicky. Jan 04 01:53:58 Legendre, yeah... its setup for a striped drive (raid 0) Jan 04 01:54:16 darkarcon2015, Like I said, I'm not a programmer :) Jan 04 01:54:25 --> MacGuyver (~amaral@200.174.116.164) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:54:32 eelriverlt: oh well Jan 04 01:54:32 i wish i could reformat Jan 04 01:54:32 --- notwarez2 is now known as notwarez Jan 04 01:54:34 I know to run export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME= Jan 04 01:54:34 bubba_ - is the sis raid driver compiled into the kernel staticly? Jan 04 01:54:46 --> slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:54:46 <-- slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has left ##slackware Jan 04 01:54:57 but you have to do that all the time Jan 04 01:54:57 but then i would lose my php and mysql, which took forever to get working Jan 04 01:54:57 Legendre, yeah, so is libata Jan 04 01:55:21 bubba_ - ok.. are you sure that you do not need to pass the driver some args at boottime, to make it register the raid? Jan 04 01:55:38 --> slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:55:38 <-- slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has left ##slackware Jan 04 01:55:52 I tried loading them as modules... but after that didnt work, i compiled them into the kernel... Jan 04 01:55:54 darkarcon2015, Stop them and your program, compile, and start them up again. Or compile in runlevel 1 Jan 04 01:56:03 the bot is confused about the new channel Jan 04 01:56:09 <-- Straterra has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 04 01:56:20 bubba_ - I'd read the documention for that driver, if you haven't done that. It's in the kernel src tree. Jan 04 01:56:45 Tell the bot not to feel like the Lone Ranger Jan 04 01:56:45 hum Jan 04 01:56:45 well... somewhere in one of the hundereds of docs ive read, it mentioned disabling acpi, apic, and lapic... I treid, but got a bunch of errors in dmesg. Jan 04 01:57:22 bubba_ - it sounds like this is a soft-hardware raid controller, right? Jan 04 01:57:30 the weird thing about this program of mine, is that i erased the "a.out" that it created in the build Jan 04 01:57:34 --> slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:57:37 yeah... its onboard, but i think its really software based. Jan 04 01:57:37 --> andrea (~opera@200.122.157.40) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:57:40 yes Jan 04 01:57:46 W|GG-Laptop: channel set ##slackware Jan 04 01:57:49 ?? Jan 04 01:57:49 ok...that wasn't all that hard Jan 04 01:57:54 fixed it Jan 04 01:57:56 bubba_ - well, fwiw.. you might do just as well or better to use the Linux md stuff for it. Jan 04 01:58:04 i was working with the wrong .conf file Jan 04 01:58:09 hehe Jan 04 01:58:10 i keep a backup also :o) Jan 04 01:58:10 Legendre, I think i tried that too... Jan 04 01:58:14 bubba_ - if you're going to do software raid, mighat as well do it on the OS side. Jan 04 01:58:31 <-- toshin has quit ("-") Jan 04 01:58:32 somewhere it mentioned that the linux raid works better than the soft-hardware raid. Jan 04 01:58:38 i should change its nick Jan 04 01:58:44 bubba_ - that is the general consensus, yes. Jan 04 01:58:59 bubba_ : and wtf is 'soft-hardware raid'? Jan 04 01:59:11 ananke - that was my mangling, thank you! Jan 04 01:59:20 I tried some of that stuff.. it uses dmraid (in 2.6 kernel) Jan 04 01:59:21 good one. now explain what it is Jan 04 01:59:28 * inflex blinks and wonders WTF we're ## Jan 04 01:59:49 lol Jan 04 01:59:49 more hash Jan 04 01:59:49 I mean, an onboard raid controller, that is really juse software based, like an HPT-370 etc. Jan 04 01:59:52 ananke, well.. there are a bunch of "raid" controllers that require software (os software) for them to work... Jan 04 01:59:55 Legendre : so it's software raid. not hardware. Jan 04 02:00:01 not the good ones Jan 04 02:00:02 Legendre: I hate those onboard hybrid soft/hard RAID controllers Jan 04 02:00:05 ananke, real hardware raid is OS independant... Jan 04 02:00:06 ananke - right.. Jan 04 02:00:06 now, need to check the stats Jan 04 02:00:16 the good ones have only a small driver Jan 04 02:00:27 aka fakeraid Jan 04 02:00:28 well, even a software based on-board raid is OS independent. Jan 04 02:00:29 you shouldn't need a driver to use RAID Jan 04 02:00:35 or should be. Jan 04 02:00:54 --> spenser (~spenser@user-0c8hmse.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:01:04 inflex : sure you do. try any true hardware raid card without drivers. Jan 04 02:01:17 Legendre, well.. I think you have to install the xp driver before it works... Jan 04 02:01:17 that is, to configure it, obviously you'll still need a SCSI driver or similar to access the card Jan 04 02:01:17 w00t 5 clock Jan 04 02:01:29 time to go home Jan 04 02:01:29 <-- buzzedlightyear (~buzzedlig@68-116-50-50.or.charter.com) has left ##slackware ("leaving....") Jan 04 02:01:38 irrespective of how it is handled, a 'raid' controller should abstract the multiple devices in a way that any IDE driver can read them. Or maybe I'm on crack. Jan 04 02:01:38 <-- andrea (~opera@200.122.157.40) has left ##slackware Jan 04 02:01:48 for IDE raid I mean, scsi is different. Jan 04 02:01:49 the difference is simple. with true hardware raid, the driver only talks to the card, and doesn't take care of actually managing the data placement/etc Jan 04 02:01:50 <-- darkarcon2015 has quit ("Leaving") Jan 04 02:02:18 correct - true RAID you only see a singular drive, with software raid you see the individual hardware drives Jan 04 02:02:44 anyway... ive been tryin for several days now, and im soo damn confused about everytihing ive read, i dont know what to do next. Jan 04 02:02:48 inflex - even with a software raid that is based in the chipset, and has its own BIOS? Jan 04 02:02:54 with true hardware raid you see as many drives as you have logical drives declared in your raid Jan 04 02:02:58 * Legendre isn't so sure. Jan 04 02:03:23 bubba_ : start with google, and + 'linux' Jan 04 02:03:23 <-- newbie^ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 04 02:03:29 Legendre: are you referring to those $30 RAID1 type cards? Jan 04 02:03:47 man you know since the channel had that name for so many years not all ppl are going to think of adding an extra#. they should have just made it so the topic allways had and can't be changed to say UNofficial Jan 04 02:03:47 ananke, oh, ive done that for 4 days now... I think ive read everyhing, and know nothing. Jan 04 02:03:57 inflex - well, to junk like the hpt-370 that came on my KT7-RAID board. Jan 04 02:04:04 oneforall: it's autoforwading #slackware to here Jan 04 02:04:20 --> Packeteer (~zed@53.75.233.220.exetel.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:04:30 bubba_: ananke is giving you good advice. Jan 04 02:04:35 so, where is the /official/ slackare channel? Jan 04 02:04:38 I doubt very much they can't have it where when you change the topic it allways auto adds that eh Jan 04 02:04:39 A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous, got me? Jan 04 02:04:49 hrmmm...question: in slackware, where do i put regular user commands that i want to run at bootup Jan 04 02:04:52 Dominian, yes, I know, like I said, I did do that, have been for days. Jan 04 02:04:53 ? Jan 04 02:04:58 W|GG-Laptop - rc.local Jan 04 02:05:02 W|GG-Laptop: /etc/rc.d/rc.local Jan 04 02:05:02 Dominian yeah but for how long Jan 04 02:05:04 bubba_: shouldn't tak edays Jan 04 02:05:09 ahah Jan 04 02:05:10 isn't that for root? Jan 04 02:05:12 or any? Jan 04 02:05:15 Dominian, no, it shouldnt. Jan 04 02:05:21 <-- fhobia has quit ("Leaving") Jan 04 02:05:30 W|GG-Laptop - joe user does not run commands at boot :p Jan 04 02:05:33 hmm, sugar bowl is starting. die auburn, die Jan 04 02:05:33 W|GG-Laptop: any - if you have to start as a particular user, then use su Jan 04 02:05:33 W|GG-Laptop, .bash.rc? /etc/profile? /etc/profiled/* ? Jan 04 02:05:43 go auburn go Jan 04 02:05:45 i need a command to run on bootup...i can't run it as root due to security considerations Jan 04 02:05:48 not possible? Jan 04 02:05:51 ananke: auburn in west sydney? Jan 04 02:05:53 nachox, ahhhhh Jan 04 02:05:54 bubba_: hardware raid is not all that hard to understand Jan 04 02:05:55 W|GG-Laptop: read what I said Jan 04 02:06:01 W|GG-Laptop - sudo for that Jan 04 02:06:02 W|GG-Laptop : sudo, su -c Jan 04 02:06:02 W|GG-Laptop: here's an example.... Jan 04 02:06:16 Packeteer : nah. alabama [if i recall correctly] Jan 04 02:06:21 Dominian, your really not being helpful with your suggestions. I would love it if you were... Jan 04 02:06:24 su - ircd -c "cd /home/ircd/ircd; ./ircd -f ircd.conf; echo 'done.'" Jan 04 02:06:48 W|GG-Laptop: You should be able to execute a script as a user.. in rc.local using su then the scrip tfrom there.. iirc Jan 04 02:07:05 ananke: heh, well i used to work in Auburn (Sydney) :) Jan 04 02:07:05 bubba_: You don't follow me.. you are doing hardware raid on what typ eof system? Jan 04 02:07:05 ananke - happy new year to you , btw.. hope it treats you well ;) Jan 04 02:07:27 --> juice (~juice@mo-65-41-197-57.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:07:27 happy new beer! Jan 04 02:07:27 <-- theron has quit ("Leaving") Jan 04 02:07:27 Legendre : so far so good. it's awefully warm :) Jan 04 02:07:27 W|GG-Laptop, oops, my bad, use su Jan 04 02:07:27 su -c won't ask for a password? Jan 04 02:07:54 ananke: Man is it ever.. for January.. it was 60 where I live where the average temp is lik 20 Jan 04 02:07:54 it should Jan 04 02:07:54 W|GG-Laptop: it's running as root... root is allowed anywhere ;-) Jan 04 02:07:54 hell, lemme try it Jan 04 02:07:54 umm Jan 04 02:07:54 this is pretty much the best site ive seen that allows you to get a firm grasp on how the differnt RAID levels work. Just click on the # bar at the top to change levels: http://www.acnc.com/04_01_00.html Jan 04 02:07:55 i dont think so, youre running su as root Jan 04 02:07:55 W|GG-Laptop: not if root does it Jan 04 02:07:55 rc.local is executed as root.. su -c should NOT as for a password if you do it as root to anothe ruser Jan 04 02:07:55 Dominian : i was in a short sleeve shirt. it was like 65F today Jan 04 02:07:55 Dominian, OK. I have a new motherboard that has a sis 180 controller, it controlls 2 sata, 2 eide (ata133) drives. I have 2 ata133 drives connected. Jan 04 02:07:59 ananke: me too Jan 04 02:08:21 inflex, the problem is (i thought i said this) that this particular command shouldn't be run as root Jan 04 02:08:21 --> elius (~elius@dialup-62-0-75-130.tlv.netvision.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:08:21 ananke, you tell me 35C here at 10:10 pm :P Jan 04 02:08:27 W|GG-Laptop: the command won't run as root using su -c Jan 04 02:08:27 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:08:27 so, su -c looks to be it, i guess Jan 04 02:08:37 thx Jan 04 02:08:37 W|GG-Laptop: correct, the command I showed you just before invokes ircd as the user 'ircd' Jan 04 02:08:43 W|GG-Laptop: give it a shot .. see what happens Jan 04 02:08:43 nachox : nobody cares about down under :) Jan 04 02:08:43 ahhhhhh Jan 04 02:08:45 * W|GG-Laptop is a bit slow today Jan 04 02:08:48 must be the wine Jan 04 02:08:57 bubba_: sis 180 controller. who makes those.. I need to pull up the specs on it Jan 04 02:09:17 ananke, heh, i love discrimination, but damn, it hurts ;) Jan 04 02:09:17 bubba_: and what type of raid are you tryin gto do? Jan 04 02:09:18 what I am still not sure of is how it is that when I did RAID5 on mandrake, i needed an /etc/raidtab, but when i formatted that and put on slackware10 (keeping the same partitions) it knew exactly how to setup the raid with no raidtab. it even knew to make /boot RAID1 and the rest RAID5 Jan 04 02:09:19 BTW, the motherboard has another ide controller, which ive put an additional drive on, and have booted the system on ... Jan 04 02:09:21 erm, SiS Jan 04 02:09:28 why did the channel move? Jan 04 02:09:42 Silicon integrated something or other Jan 04 02:09:42 juice: very very very long story Jan 04 02:09:42 W|GG-Laptop: busy work life? Jan 04 02:09:52 very Jan 04 02:09:53 i thought that type of info was kept in the /etc/raidtab file, so i dunno where it got it from Jan 04 02:09:53 i'm gonna quit soon Jan 04 02:09:58 okay maybe i should ask what is ## Jan 04 02:10:00 lol Jan 04 02:10:04 lol Jan 04 02:10:05 <-- buggaboo has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 04 02:10:07 W|GG-Laptop: Heya Jan 04 02:10:14 SiegeX, yeah... im setting up a raid0 (2 identical disks) Jan 04 02:10:14 --> r00tsh3ll (~r00tsh3ll@201.10.169.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:10:15 W|GG-Laptop: something better come up? Jan 04 02:10:16 juice: it's a new edition of "Virtual Trading Spaces"... the SuSE guys are redoing #slackware, we're redoing #gentoo, etc. Jan 04 02:10:16 #slackware is reserved for pat now Jan 04 02:10:17 juice, hmm, ok maybe we should tell you to read the topic :P Jan 04 02:10:24 SiegeX : you probably had selected to create persistent superblock Jan 04 02:10:26 hi FriedBob...how's it going? Jan 04 02:10:26 bubba_: bad idea Jan 04 02:10:36 bubba_: raid0 is a very bad idea imho Jan 04 02:10:39 XGizzmo, i've been actively looking Jan 04 02:10:40 raid1 is what you want Jan 04 02:10:41 I have lots of docs on the chipset, what did you want to know ? Jan 04 02:10:42 found a few Jan 04 02:11:03 Im looking for speed, and size, not stability. doing video editing, not webhosting. Jan 04 02:11:03 W|GG-Laptop: Not bad, overall. Touch tired, but that's nothing new. Why the move, out of curiosity? Jan 04 02:11:08 W|GG-Laptop: good luck hope you find something good for you and your family Jan 04 02:11:11 i just need to find a job that will pay my NG tuition since i took that CISSP course a few months ago Jan 04 02:11:13 topic says we moved is it lol Jan 04 02:11:17 ananke: rings a bell but not 100%, anyway if i did, anyway that superblock would contain on the pertient info that the raidtab file would hold? Jan 04 02:11:26 s/on/all Jan 04 02:11:39 bubba_: You do realize that in a raid0 array.. you lose one drive.. you lose all data on both drives? Jan 04 02:11:42 Dominian, understand why I want raid0? is that ok with you ? Jan 04 02:11:51 Dominian, yes. Jan 04 02:11:54 i mean if you get forward to here what's the point to move :P Jan 04 02:11:56 bubba_: You can be a smartass all you want.. I'm just letting you know the risk. Jan 04 02:12:05 FriedBob, lilo wanted to free up #slackware for other possible future projects Jan 04 02:12:05 bubba_: if you can get one more disk you can go with RAID5 and get RAID0 like speeds but with parity Jan 04 02:12:12 FriedBob et al: Freenode (irc network) has a policy that "unofficial" channels should use ## instead of #. Seems like they are going to be enforcing that soon so it was pre-emptive bit shifting on the parts of the dudes who run this channel Jan 04 02:12:14 from the specs: Support RAID 0, RAID1, RAID0+1 and JBOD by software Jan 04 02:12:19 FriedBob, just like he did #linux Jan 04 02:12:22 it's supports raid via software only.. not hardware Jan 04 02:12:23 brb Jan 04 02:12:24 I have a 160 gig drive for storing stuff... I want to run off the raid, and do editing with the raid. Jan 04 02:12:33 that is if you are doing software raid, otherwise most onboard mobo raid controllers dont do 5 afiak Jan 04 02:12:35 W|GG-Laptop: I see. Jan 04 02:12:48 I got lilo installed and working, and my sound more or less working. Jan 04 02:12:57 SiegeX, yeah, I could also buy 2 sata 200 gb drives and do raid 0 + 1 (aka raid 5). Jan 04 02:13:43 bubba_ : uhmm, if you want raid 0, then why not just use lvm? Jan 04 02:13:44 SiegeX, this one said it can in the manual... no reason to belive it wont. Jan 04 02:13:49 XGizzmo: oh yeah, slackboy is mine :o) Jan 04 02:13:53 hehe Jan 04 02:13:58 ananke, I dont know ? Jan 04 02:14:12 bubba_ : consider using lvm. Jan 04 02:14:15 would that be better for my needs ? Jan 04 02:14:19 well thats good that they are starting to support it because they havnt been for quite some time Jan 04 02:14:35 bubba_ : it would be easier to expand it in the future Jan 04 02:14:35 <-- Squall` has quit ("sandwich") Jan 04 02:14:39 It worked, but then I had to reboot due to some hardware issues (I think my burner might be crapping out) and now it doesn't play. Or is it RAM going bad? Haven't had time to investigate further yet Jan 04 02:14:51 I think this chipset is about a year old... support for it by last spring... Jan 04 02:15:18 --> snow_ru (~snow_ru@snow.dorms.spbu.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:15:19 hi Jan 04 02:15:23 bubba_: raid 0+1 requires 4 drives IIRC Jan 04 02:15:30 Any one use : amule ? Jan 04 02:15:31 unless you meant 2 addition drives on top of what you have now **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 4 02:15:31 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 4 23:58:58 2005 Jan 04 23:58:58 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 04 23:58:58 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | 15 minute silence scheduled for Wednesday 5th January 2005 at 12:00pm UTC as a mark of respect for those killed in the recent Asian natural disaster and Argentinian fire Jan 04 23:58:58 --- Topic for ##slackware set by nixor at Tue Jan 4 17:05:35 2005 Jan 04 23:58:58 -ChanServ- [##slackware] #slackware has moved to ##slackware to fit the freenode channel ownership policies a bit better. If you've been forwarded from #slackware, please "/part #slackware" so your client won't be confused! Jan 04 23:58:58 --- ##slackware :[freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup Jan 04 23:59:04 SiegeX : yep 2.5 Jan 04 23:59:49 what about warrentee? Jan 04 23:59:58 if its bleeding edge DDR i would go with corsair, if its midrange DDR thats been out for awhile I would save the money and get kingston Jan 05 00:00:09 damn....128 PC133 price is almost equal to 256 PC2700. meh.... Jan 05 00:00:19 all about supply & demand Jan 05 00:00:26 nobody makes that shit anymore Jan 05 00:00:30 * Papyrus considering his choice again to upgrading his SDRAM Jan 05 00:00:51 Kinda why my old machines with EDO ram only have 16 and 24 megs..the shit is too expensive Jan 05 00:00:53 good luck finding cheap EDO memory Jan 05 00:00:55 <-- Polorix has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:01:04 yeah.... Jan 05 00:01:18 how expensive is EDO now ? Jan 05 00:01:49 an arm and a leg Jan 05 00:01:56 I would venture a guess that you can get EDO either for REALLY cheap or REALLY expensive Jan 05 00:02:02 ok.. i think i want to buy SDRAM ONLY if i can find it for less than 30 $ Jan 05 00:02:15 really cheap if you find some old ass computer at a garage sale that has it, expensive if you buy it from a store Jan 05 00:02:27 SiegeX : yes Jan 05 00:03:15 http://www.kahlon.com/keyword_new.asp?ksearch=kah32x72%2Dbee Jan 05 00:03:25 oh shucks Jan 05 00:03:33 EDO is no more in production how i know Jan 05 00:03:39 i got a packard bell the other day with some weird looking ram.. i wonder if it's EDO Jan 05 00:03:43 it's got 4 sticks Jan 05 00:03:46 havent taken em out yet Jan 05 00:03:56 I gotta go eat dinner, BBIAB Jan 05 00:04:03 <-- tbird has quit () Jan 05 00:04:08 <-- quittt has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:04:12 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:04:34 ya, see i just bought a P3-400, 128 PC133, 6Gb HD for the same price as that 256MB stick of EDO Jan 05 00:04:41 edo is.....144 or 166 pin, eight ? Jan 05 00:04:50 *right Jan 05 00:04:57 SiegeX : hmm..for how much ? Jan 05 00:05:18 * kobs opens up packard bell Jan 05 00:05:32 it was like $45 at this PC surplus store, some old Compaq that im using to learn OpenBSD on now Jan 05 00:05:43 btw....what happen if i buy 4 ic or 8 ic type of SDRAM ? Jan 05 00:06:16 --> quittt (dsadas@200-170-123-107.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:06:53 dunno Jan 05 00:07:09 --> Dario (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:07:11 IIRC, PC100/133 is 168pin, and EDO is 72pin Jan 05 00:07:14 <-- avoca has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:07:21 does anyone know what NET WATCHDOG is? Jan 05 00:07:27 and DDR is 244, or something like that. Jan 05 00:07:49 uhm....i think SDRAM 168 and DDR 184 or 186. whatever.... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 5 00:07:57 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 5 00:08:08 2005 Jan 05 00:08:08 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 05 00:08:08 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | 15 minute silence scheduled for Wednesday 5th January 2005 at 12:00pm UTC as a mark of respect for those killed in the recent Asian natural disaster and Argentinian fire Jan 05 00:08:08 --- Topic for ##slackware set by nixor at Tue Jan 4 17:05:35 2005 Jan 05 00:08:08 -ChanServ- [##slackware] #slackware has moved to ##slackware to fit the freenode channel ownership policies a bit better. If you've been forwarded from #slackware, please "/part #slackware" so your client won't be confused! Jan 05 00:08:08 --- ##slackware :[freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup Jan 05 00:08:26 i wonder if these 4 ic or 8 ic SDRAM will run fine on my P3. some voices tell me 16 ic is more stable.... Jan 05 00:08:31 acidkill : dunno. i don't use it Jan 05 00:10:28 <-- SlackFart has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 05 00:10:46 --> MacGuyver (~amaral@200.208.213.47) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:10:47 --> crondom (~chatzilla@12.145.228.130) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:12:17 hm, all of the FAQs in the SELinux FAQ are #1 Jan 05 00:12:28 I think they were hacked Jan 05 00:12:52 --> meowwuff (~mreith@69.90.194.233) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:13:01 --> DuRaZNo (~alfreleca@200.106.25.35) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:13:03 woudl someone be so kind as to tell me what tehre default terminal type is when they logon to their box? Jan 05 00:13:04 hi all Jan 05 00:13:24 meowwuff: linux Jan 05 00:13:43 Zalamander : huh ? Jan 05 00:13:57 #1 ? Jan 05 00:14:02 http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/info/faq.cfm Jan 05 00:14:11 check out the text. They are all #1 Jan 05 00:14:13 I hope I get my movies tomorrow Jan 05 00:14:19 tewmten me too Jan 05 00:14:22 Scarface Special Edition 2 DVD :) Jan 05 00:14:24 tewmten: thats your term type? Jan 05 00:14:31 --> minux (~dfgdfg@minux.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:14:32 meowwuff: yes Jan 05 00:14:37 Zalamander: site looks fine to me... Jan 05 00:14:42 meowwuff "linux" is set by /etc/profile, if there is no other Jan 05 00:14:52 Zalamander: that link looks find to me Jan 05 00:14:58 <-- Cirkit has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 05 00:15:00 Zalamander : yeah, looks fine Jan 05 00:15:03 Look at the *text* of the FAQs Jan 05 00:15:31 the text looks fine too Jan 05 00:15:35 --> FenrisUlf (~jft@c-24-0-208-96.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:15:47 the links at the top to the sections have two main sections, I and II, and 1-22 and 1-7 in sections. Jan 05 00:15:55 yeah, that's the links, now check the text Jan 05 00:16:02 the links also work, click on say I, 12, it goes to the text. which looks fine. Jan 05 00:16:02 the text is fine to me Jan 05 00:16:03 <-- octavious has quit ("leaving") Jan 05 00:16:16 and the text says "12." ? Jan 05 00:16:21 10. Why did you do this work? Jan 05 00:16:38 12. Is Security-enhanced Linux a Trusted Operating System? Jan 05 00:16:38 --> m[a]zzanet (~mazzanet@mazzanet.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:16:53 I guess it's my browser. Looks fine here too in another Jan 05 00:16:59 hmm....looks fine Jan 05 00:17:08 --> The_Yeti (~Yeti@pcp03278380pcs.mtmors01.mi.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:17:12 Zalamander: maybe CIA hacked your browser!! =) Jan 05 00:17:21 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:17:30 hmmm..... 18 $ for 128 :) Jan 05 00:17:52 <-- kop has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 00:18:08 <-- [Granger] has quit () Jan 05 00:18:22 --> [Granger] (Ecto@c-265f70d5.033-47-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:18:50 <-- Analyzer has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 05 00:18:51 acidkill more like Mozilla is more tolerant of broken xhtml than konqueor is Jan 05 00:18:58 ahh. Jan 05 00:19:01 --> kop (~trillian@64-40-61-111.nocharge.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:19:05 <-- FenrisUlf has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 00:19:14 * DuRaZNo doesn't like Konqueror Jan 05 00:19:16 <-- juice has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 05 00:19:19 * Squall` doesn't like DuRaZNo Jan 05 00:19:27 aaahhh.... allizoM Jan 05 00:19:29 hello, I am trying to get my wi-fi card working. Did iwconfig, it sees it. Did iwconfig eth0 key 12345678. Thats fine. did ifconfig eth0 up. That seems to work. Then I did "dhclient" and it says "no broadcast addresses found" Jan 05 00:19:44 anyone know how to fix my problem? Jan 05 00:19:49 --> SlackFart (~el_fart0@dc51468581.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:19:50 <-- vurte (~haluk@pD95F68C8.dip.t-dialin.net) has left ##slackware Jan 05 00:19:56 konqueror was doing really well until 3.3.2. Several new bugs appeared, and a few previously solved ones returned. Annoying. Jan 05 00:20:29 that's why it called bugs Jan 05 00:20:31 i hit a bug, somehow, in firefox 1.0 that made it stop downloading. i couldnt make it download anything. Jan 05 00:20:36 it's pesky Jan 05 00:21:06 thanks everybody Jan 05 00:21:07 <-- meowwuff (~mreith@69.90.194.233) has left ##slackware Jan 05 00:21:22 acidkill that happened to me once -- in my case it was because I had moved the directory to which I had *last* downloaded. So the download manager would crash when it tried to start up. Jan 05 00:21:39 bye all Jan 05 00:21:40 acidkill well, it happened to me with mozilla Jan 05 00:21:43 I'm leavin' Jan 05 00:21:44 bye Jan 05 00:21:50 <-- DuRaZNo (~alfreleca@200.106.25.35) has left ##slackware Jan 05 00:21:50 <-- mika_EL has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 05 00:21:50 my download manager wouldnt crash, it would open. but i may have done that. Jan 05 00:22:24 also, the nightly changed the file save/open dialog to the one used in gnome 2.8. Jan 05 00:22:33 i kinda dont like it...but its not that bad. Jan 05 00:22:49 Zalamander, i was never ever into konqueror. it's ok, but i prefer nautilus for local files, and mozilla for web Jan 05 00:23:27 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 00:23:32 --> juice (~juice@mo-65-41-197-57.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:23:37 --> Outpour (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:23:37 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:23:37 konqueror is still great for local files. And FTP as well. Jan 05 00:23:48 ncftp. =) Jan 05 00:23:51 --> meka (~bmx@82.154.200.106) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:23:55 <-- jmichaeljm has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:23:59 <-- meka (~bmx@82.154.200.106) has left ##slackware Jan 05 00:24:02 and the Audio I/0 slaves that do cd ripping and mp3 encoding are awesome Jan 05 00:24:03 --> meka (~bmx@82.154.200.106) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:24:08 <-- meka (~bmx@82.154.200.106) has left ##slackware Jan 05 00:24:25 Zalamander : don't forget SMB. Konqueror is good Jan 05 00:24:36 konqueror sucks for ftp. first off, i don't need it to sit there and count files. second, it stalls often. wget is much better an experience IMO Jan 05 00:24:55 wget rules Jan 05 00:24:56 so with a single drag and drop, I can (1)rip an audio cd (2)encode it to ogg (3)FTP it to a remote server, without ever writing the ogg to my own hard drive. Jan 05 00:25:00 cdparanoia -B && oggenc *.wav && rm -f *.wav; xterm <- good replacement for both konqueror and nautilus Jan 05 00:25:00 however, kde itself is ok, has good programs such as k3b, amaroK, and the kaudiocreator thingy Jan 05 00:25:08 Papyrus true, I don't get much use for that though Jan 05 00:25:16 <-- crud has quit ("Powered by PRE-ROLLED JOINT Got it ? =)") Jan 05 00:25:34 Zalamander, never writing it to your own hard drive? i somehow doubt that, as the program probably uses temporary file space or file locations Jan 05 00:25:42 NeoLaptop nope Jan 05 00:25:58 Zalamander, what about swap space? :P Jan 05 00:26:07 why write it to the hard drive when you can pipe it directly across the network? Jan 05 00:26:17 Zalamander, well honestly, where's it going to do all its work? ram? how big a file are we talking? Jan 05 00:26:23 Straterra I've never hit mine, with 512M of RAM Jan 05 00:26:34 Zalamander Zarine Jan 05 00:26:42 <-- blackhat-- has quit ("kill -9 irc -.-") Jan 05 00:26:46 * NeoLaptop is just reminded of the need for more ram ... Jan 05 00:26:56 NeoLaptop : aren't we all Jan 05 00:27:04 Yeah. :/ Jan 05 00:27:05 NeoLaptop eh? It's ripped in chunks, it's encoded in chunks, it's sent over the network in chunks. There is no reason to write it anywhere Jan 05 00:27:09 Zalamander, you cant encode your ogg file on the fly , program must write it somewhere and then encoded (finished) send thru ftp Jan 05 00:27:18 * Papyrus gets frustrated playing prince of persia : warrior within. Jan 05 00:27:39 smps I don't see why, it certainly works for MP3, without touching the drive Jan 05 00:27:41 but somehow i don't like konqueror for ftp at all. sure, it works for one file at a time pretty well, but something about it annoys me, such as counting files, such as stalling when you copy over mass files, such as counting files BEFORE copying from ftp, weird krap like that. mozilla works best for web IMO, or wget. Jan 05 00:27:51 still, rsync > ftp IMO ... :D Jan 05 00:27:55 Zalamander Zarine Jan 05 00:28:00 --> jmedina (~jmedina@63.70.73.227) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:28:06 scp ;) Jan 05 00:28:06 Zalamander, any clues for me on how to get konqueror from being such a pig for ftp? Jan 05 00:28:08 NeoLaptop I've never had konqueror do any of that stuff Jan 05 00:28:12 sftp :D Jan 05 00:28:20 konqueror is good at sftp too Jan 05 00:28:21 and fish Jan 05 00:28:29 sftp has overhead Jan 05 00:28:44 --> zaphar (~zaphar@res11585.rh.rit.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:28:47 yeah ! no spam ! Jan 05 00:28:50 * NeoLaptop goes back to reading his linux+ book Jan 05 00:28:58 Papyrus, spamassassin? Jan 05 00:29:06 everything has overhead Jan 05 00:29:10 scp is important when copying pr0n ;) Jan 05 00:29:16 hahahah Jan 05 00:29:20 NeoLaptop in konqueror I use the split screen for FTP, drag and drop between the panes, directories, files, whatever. It works painlessly. Or drag between two FTP servers, or one SFTP and one FISH Jan 05 00:29:21 anyone in here have a amd 3200+ Jan 05 00:29:23 Dominian, but scp/sftp has alot of overhead Jan 05 00:29:30 --> octavious (100@68.61.127.173) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:29:31 eh.. no biggy Jan 05 00:29:32 it works Jan 05 00:29:33 zaphar : i have barton 3000+ Jan 05 00:29:39 Doesn't have enough to make it unusable. Jan 05 00:29:50 * Xgates shows off to the Slackcares some L33t gDesklets screenshots Jan 05 00:29:54 http://www.slackcare.com/images/gdesklets_shot.gif Jan 05 00:29:54 my computer keeps getting "hot" 70c and I can't figure out my it's heating up so much Jan 05 00:29:59 http://www.slackcare.com/images/gdesklets_shell.gif Jan 05 00:30:06 why* Jan 05 00:30:07 oh my. Jan 05 00:30:25 zaphar : my peak temp is about 58C Jan 05 00:30:25 zaphar, Um..are you using thermal paste? Jan 05 00:30:29 zaphar : my peak temp is about 58 C Jan 05 00:30:29 actually my TYPO, hehe meant to say to the --> Slackers Jan 05 00:30:30 Another one of my friends just wrote to tell me they were homeless, and to ask if they could stay here =/ Jan 05 00:30:30 :-) Jan 05 00:30:32 yup Jan 05 00:30:43 Legendre: tell them to piss off Jan 05 00:30:44 Legendre: wooo :-( Jan 05 00:30:47 well pr0n destroys braincells, so oh well Jan 05 00:30:48 zaphar : my old Palomino goes up to 62 C though Jan 05 00:30:52 --> FenrisUlf (~jft@c-24-0-208-96.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:30:57 Legendre, if they are homeless..then how do you mail a responce back? Jan 05 00:30:57 <-- crondom has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 05 00:30:59 Legendre: Cause they will stay there for a day.. then it'll be a week... then a month.. then you'll never get rid of them. Jan 05 00:31:00 mine is runing at 60c idle Jan 05 00:31:04 Dominian: he SAID --> friends NOT BUMS Jan 05 00:31:06 sheesh Jan 05 00:31:09 lol Jan 05 00:31:10 Dominian - yeah, I already have that issue :) Jan 05 00:31:20 zaphar : What ?? i only gets about 42 C when idle Jan 05 00:31:20 then it jumps up to around 70+ when I play games and stuff Jan 05 00:31:21 I'm such an idiot. Jan 05 00:31:22 Xgates, how is gDesklets L33t? dude, they built all that FOR you, all you did was compile and follow instructions, not much to be considering yourself 1337 Jan 05 00:31:24 Xgates: friends bums.. what's the f'n difference? Jan 05 00:31:37 Zalamander zaphar Zarine Jan 05 00:31:50 friends can be bums when they need something. Jan 05 00:31:52 NeoLaptop: well actually you need some dependant packs, there is a bit more to it then that Jan 05 00:31:53 hehe Jan 05 00:31:58 it's weird though, when I exit the game it jumps back down to 60 Jan 05 00:32:02 zaphar, my centrino heats on idle up to ~60 Jan 05 00:32:02 Dominian : you look it like a "bugs", i think Jan 05 00:32:07 <-- kiwi|lappy has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:32:12 Xgates, that's not hard either Jan 05 00:32:14 Papyrus: no.. I don't let people mooch off of me. Jan 05 00:32:15 zaphar : sensor error ??? Jan 05 00:32:16 zaphar, fine, don't answer me. :/ Jan 05 00:32:24 i've done it, my screenshot is still on www.xfce.org (iirc) Jan 05 00:32:28 If a friend of mine is homeless.. chances are.. it's their own damn fault Jan 05 00:32:38 I thought I did Jan 05 00:32:45 NeoLaptop: yes sure IF you have experience, not everyone does, and to make packs for distributiion as well Jan 05 00:32:46 :-) Jan 05 00:32:48 Dominian : wew Jan 05 00:32:50 yup Jan 05 00:32:55 zaphar, you are then? Jan 05 00:32:57 Ok Jan 05 00:32:59 Papyrus: yeah.. I'm a prick. Jan 05 00:33:01 * Dominian smiles Jan 05 00:33:02 zaphar, or clean up your cooler Jan 05 00:33:05 NeoLaptop: just thought I'd show some pics is all :-) Jan 05 00:33:07 DRAT, my screenshot is gone, forgot about the new 4.1.99.x development going on Jan 05 00:33:14 Did you remove the HS and not scrape off the old paste and put some new down? Jan 05 00:33:17 Papyrus: I didn't work my butt off in college so friends could mooch offo f me. Jan 05 00:33:21 zaphar : maybe your Casing doesn't have enough cool air..... Jan 05 00:33:23 yeah, I did that too Jan 05 00:33:29 Xgates, nah, i was only picking on you for calling yourself elite. i'll say your desktop looks good, however, if you have links Jan 05 00:33:37 <-- mazzanet has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 05 00:33:38 --- m[a]zzanet is now known as mazzanet Jan 05 00:33:45 NeoLaptop: I'm l33t baby Jan 05 00:33:50 hehe Jan 05 00:33:50 NeoLaptop: hehe, thanks I was just playing saying L33t is all :-) Jan 05 00:33:52 zaphar, did you put the HS correctly on the CPU, and the HSF on the HS correctly? Jan 05 00:33:57 NeoLaptop : you really really think pr0n can destroy your mind ?? Jan 05 00:33:57 it doesn't seem very hot in there Jan 05 00:34:02 NeoLaptop: links? Jan 05 00:34:05 Dominian, no, you're not 1337 Jan 05 00:34:08 zaphar: touch the processor Jan 05 00:34:12 NeoLaptop: neither are you Jan 05 00:34:17 so what's the difference? Jan 05 00:34:21 hehe Jan 05 00:34:22 how secure am I if I only have ssh running as service? Jan 05 00:34:25 i know some people who attend all the defcon conventions, yet don't even know how to hack, just go for the fun. they're not 1337 either. Jan 05 00:34:30 Dominian, exactly. Jan 05 00:34:41 Hacker type is annoying Jan 05 00:34:52 is there something in /proc that says how hot the computer is Jan 05 00:35:06 <-- Dario has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 05 00:35:07 Papyrus, yes, pr0n screws up your mind. psychology is saying that now. makes you devalue others, etc etc, leads to bad thoughts and tendencies. Jan 05 00:35:16 hehe Jan 05 00:35:17 Xgates, tell me where i can view your screenshots Jan 05 00:35:21 I didn't need pr0n for that. Jan 05 00:35:22 zaphar, touch the HS and see if it is hot Jan 05 00:35:25 NeoLaptop : really..... Jan 05 00:35:30 Dominian : grrr Jan 05 00:35:31 NeoLaptop: what the ones I just posted? Jan 05 00:35:41 Xgates, oh, hold on, i'll scroll up Jan 05 00:35:50 I put thermal paste on the die and then put the heat sink on top of that and everything is fine Jan 05 00:36:08 NeoLaptop : aaah... thanx for the info. Jan 05 00:36:16 --> geeshock (~jmhowell@12-219-124-138.client.mchsi.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:36:17 moo! Jan 05 00:36:22 but then the temp goes up to about 60c Jan 05 00:36:26 zaphar : how fast is your CPU Fan ? Jan 05 00:36:27 Xgates, not bad at all Jan 05 00:36:32 it used to run at 50c I think Jan 05 00:36:42 Zalamander: you compiling anything? Jan 05 00:36:43 zaphar : try to get that nice copper HS Jan 05 00:36:46 hmm, not sure Jan 05 00:36:54 er.. Jan 05 00:36:58 zaphar: you compiling anything Jan 05 00:36:58 Dominian right this moment? Jan 05 00:37:03 I'll get a link to the one I have Jan 05 00:37:05 * Zalamander checks Jan 05 00:37:05 nope Jan 05 00:37:07 Zalamander: lol.. sorry mis typed Jan 05 00:37:32 my desktop http://www.slackwaregallery.com/displayimage.php?album=4&pos=11#body Jan 05 00:38:02 Papyrus what clock is that? Jan 05 00:38:13 Papyrus: meh.. those fonts man.. Jan 05 00:38:31 Zalamander : karamba theme Jan 05 00:38:42 Papyrus: what is that system monitor running on the left? Jan 05 00:38:49 Dominian : i know...already fixed it Jan 05 00:38:52 NeoLaptop: here's the box with a little more action going on ---> http://www.slackcare.com/openbox3.gif Jan 05 00:38:56 acidkill : karamba theme Jan 05 00:39:03 karamba theme comes with that clock? Jan 05 00:39:03 Is anyone running aide? If so how did they not end up with seg faults? Which version are they using? Jan 05 00:39:06 ? Jan 05 00:39:06 OpenBox3 yeah BABY Jan 05 00:39:07 :-) Jan 05 00:39:18 Zalamander : no. i get it on kde-look Jan 05 00:39:22 ew, openbox?! Jan 05 00:39:34 I'm confused Jan 05 00:39:41 --> carlosm (~carlosm@201.130.179.58) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:39:44 what should I do if want to acquire that clock? Jan 05 00:39:52 NeoLaptop: hehe, only the few and the proud LOL Jan 05 00:39:54 Zalamander: you have to install superkaramba Jan 05 00:39:56 Zalamander : i use superkaramba. then use its theme for the clock, the system info, calendar, etc... Jan 05 00:39:57 does anybody here is using Eterm? Jan 05 00:40:00 Zalamander: then download the theme for that clock Jan 05 00:40:04 Xgates, how's slackcare going? Jan 05 00:40:12 I need a whole theme for a clock? Jan 05 00:40:15 weird Jan 05 00:40:18 bleh, openbox < fluxbox imo Jan 05 00:40:18 no no Jan 05 00:40:23 Zalamander: they are called themes.. Jan 05 00:40:27 what are themes? Jan 05 00:40:31 NeoLaptop: ok getting alot more packs on it --> http://www.slackcare.com/content.php?content.47 Jan 05 00:40:32 I know what a theme is. Jan 05 00:40:36 Zalamander: it's weird.. they are like small "programs" that run inside of superkaramba Jan 05 00:40:42 Xgates, still $5 ? Jan 05 00:40:46 ok Jan 05 00:40:47 NeoLaptop: yes Jan 05 00:40:49 I don't call them themes Jan 05 00:40:53 they are freakin' programs Jan 05 00:40:54 hehe Jan 05 00:40:56 uhmm....something like superkaramba "modules" Jan 05 00:41:01 yeah Jan 05 00:41:06 Papyrus: that's much better definition Jan 05 00:41:08 Xgates, pay by month or by year? Jan 05 00:41:10 I don't think I need this clock that badly :-) Jan 05 00:41:24 NeoLaptop: month, and a few months in advance is ok Jan 05 00:41:27 Zalamander : i like it. reminds me of time..... Jan 05 00:41:30 Xgates, ok kewl Jan 05 00:41:36 time is good Jan 05 00:41:37 i might become a "gold member" Jan 05 00:41:38 :D Jan 05 00:41:54 What does superkaramba use for it's modules? I was using gdesklets, but I've been kind of turned off by the messy XML + Python stuff they use for their modules. Jan 05 00:41:55 shagadelic baby Jan 05 00:42:09 mheath: python mostly I believe Jan 05 00:42:11 (Though gdesklets is now cleaning that up, with the inline scripting and such) Jan 05 00:42:20 mheath : superkaramba use phyton for running its "modules" Jan 05 00:42:20 messy python? That takes skill Jan 05 00:42:24 NeoLaptop: have a look at that "Package List" also anything not there, requests are can be made and filled in within 1-2 days Jan 05 00:42:38 NeoLaptop: just did a request the other day for Nvu Jan 05 00:42:43 Zalamander : install superkaramba, get "modules", open it. Jan 05 00:42:54 Ah. Gdesklets used XML files for the actual graphical parts..... Jan 05 00:42:57 so wait, this clock is just a python module? Jan 05 00:43:12 ok.. Python vs. Perl.. I've never used python, but I really don't get why people say that perl syntax is 'arcane' or 'crazy'.. Jan 05 00:43:22 And the display could communicate with a Python "Sensor" (program...) Jan 05 00:43:24 seems very sane to me.. then again, I grew up on Pascal. Jan 05 00:43:26 Zalamander : no. superkaramba...it use phyton language Jan 05 00:43:34 Legendre, because they are stupid Jan 05 00:43:37 Legendre it's just got a lot of symbols and markings in it. Jan 05 00:43:44 Legendre, you can't compare the two, they're intended to do entirely different things. Jan 05 00:43:50 --> WhiteRabbit (~3am@whiterabbit.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:43:53 no they aren't, for the last time Jan 05 00:43:59 mheath - really? Jan 05 00:44:01 Perl is for text extraction, processing, and reports. Python is a full featured scripting language. Jan 05 00:44:02 they are for similar purposes Jan 05 00:44:06 stop saying that Jan 05 00:44:15 and Perl is for much more than that Jan 05 00:44:23 perl seems very robust to me.. Jan 05 00:44:27 superkaramba doesn't have alot of applets and with the latest version ALOT of the old applets that ppl did not update will not work, gDesklets is better for applet support right now, and there are alot more applets for it Jan 05 00:44:42 Perl is quite robust, not to mention sexy Jan 05 00:44:42 --> Artimus (~Artimus@66-168-2-157.cli.wi.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:44:52 Xgates, hey, btw, do you service -current? i prefer -current, but i can use 10 if i have to ... Jan 05 00:44:55 Perl is designed to be compact and flexible. Python is designed to be clean, simple, and readable. Jan 05 00:44:59 Legendre, it's grown to be moderately robust, but I have trouble viewing much of that as more than crufty extensions :D Jan 05 00:45:11 PERL : Perl, sEx Reminder Language................ Jan 05 00:45:32 mheath - as I said, I've never written python. But the snips of code I saw looked really cryptic compared to perl. Jan 05 00:45:34 --> helly (~kgb@adsl-68-78-121-113.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:45:58 Legendre you sure you saw python? it's usually not cryptic at all Jan 05 00:46:06 NeoLaptop: no Slackcare is ONLY for the Stable state of Slackware, for whatever version it happens to be, which is 10.0, because the "current" tree is not stable, so to make packs for distribution like Slackcare "current" is not a good idea to keep peoples systems stable Jan 05 00:46:10 Zalamander - yeah.. it was the bittorrent stuff. Jan 05 00:46:18 <-- radi0head has quit ("bbl") Jan 05 00:46:20 wow... this channel is heavily commented Jan 05 00:46:28 Papyrus - heh Jan 05 00:46:37 ### Welcome to ##slackware Jan 05 00:46:53 hehe Jan 05 00:47:00 Legendre, yeah. Perl can be simple.....But keep in mind that perl is the Practical Extraction and Report Language. It was originally intedended only for text processing Jan 05 00:47:01 Xgates, ah, ok. do you have kde 3.3.x for slack 10? Jan 05 00:47:12 (Though you can do more than that with it, now....) Jan 05 00:47:18 mheath - heh, yeah.. I know the basic premise of it. Jan 05 00:47:19 <-- Zalamander has quit ("-") Jan 05 00:47:41 but we all know Fortran is not just for analyzing formulas ;) Jan 05 00:47:56 Ugh. Fortran scares me.... Jan 05 00:48:01 NeoLaptop: no because alot of packs that use Kde, and QT then they can't be compiled Jan 05 00:48:02 err, translating as it were. Jan 05 00:48:03 --> spenser (~spenser@user-0c8hmse.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:48:07 Thats The Language That Would Not Die. Jan 05 00:48:15 I thought that was cobol! Jan 05 00:48:24 --> abby (1000@83.133.13.123) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:48:31 Cobol scares me even more! Jan 05 00:48:37 you know that joke about the cobol programmers that get frozen in suspended animation? Jan 05 00:48:38 COBOL IS FUN. Jan 05 00:48:40 Hey, anyone interested in VMware should try out beta 5 Jan 05 00:48:41 ...... Jan 05 00:48:42 Fortran, at least, was a nice, fast, elegant language........ Jan 05 00:48:44 it's free for testing Jan 05 00:48:46 DONT YOU AGREE. Jan 05 00:48:48 Cobol, though...ugh. Jan 05 00:48:55 In case ya don't have the money Jan 05 00:48:58 fortran is tried and true Jan 05 00:49:07 been around forever Jan 05 00:49:18 I remeber learning FORTH. Now THAT is a messed up language. Jan 05 00:49:33 it'll expire after awhile though :( Jan 05 00:49:40 Legendre, you're wasting Perl hacking time Jan 05 00:49:41 Xgates, why can't they be compiled? Jan 05 00:49:45 go pick up a Perl book Jan 05 00:49:57 * Papyrus haves 20 $ for buying SDRAM Jan 05 00:49:58 i mean, what advantage would i have with slackcare versus -current ? Jan 05 00:49:59 PERL is obtuse, but it's a good language Jan 05 00:49:59 Squall` - I have perl books.. just musing on the topic. Jan 05 00:50:14 NeoLaptop, security updates? Jan 05 00:50:22 don't you dare call it crap like 'PERL' Jan 05 00:50:24 the software for my cd transport is written in perl.. I wrote it. Jan 05 00:50:26 NeoLaptop: I have wuite of few apps that compile against Kde, so Slackcare uses another version of Kde, then what is in 10.0 these apps will have to be compiled against, and throw things off Jan 05 00:50:30 PERL isn't crap Jan 05 00:50:42 NeoLaptop: wuite/quite of/a few ....... Jan 05 00:50:56 but yeah, for processing / parsing text files, perl is just the best. Jan 05 00:50:58 it's Perl for the langauage or perl for the debugger/interpreter Jan 05 00:51:13 don't call it something stupid like PERL, it sounds communistic Jan 05 00:51:17 Squall`, PERL is an acronym. Jan 05 00:51:21 lol Jan 05 00:51:27 Acronyms are traditionally capitalized. Jan 05 00:51:27 Practical Extraction and Report Language Jan 05 00:51:34 Putz, security updates? -current is up to date. Jan 05 00:51:35 PERL really can makes people "hot" Jan 05 00:51:41 it saved my neck when I had to change an ip in like 80+ zone files :) Jan 05 00:51:42 no.. PERL = Perl Easily Replaces Legendre Jan 05 00:51:43 NeoLaptop, are you using current? Jan 05 00:51:44 Xgates: ping Jan 05 00:51:49 Xgates, ah, so it's quite a few Jan 05 00:51:52 Putz, yep Jan 05 00:51:55 NeoLaptop, cause I thought you meant youw ere using 10.0 over current Jan 05 00:51:58 mheath, SHUT UP!!!!! Perl doesn't follow the acrynom rules Jan 05 00:51:59 heh, my mistake Jan 05 00:52:00 ! Jan 05 00:52:03 you commie Jan 05 00:52:11 go back to Russia. Jan 05 00:52:23 <-- [NMFTRBTFS]helly has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 00:52:23 :/ Jan 05 00:52:26 lol Jan 05 00:52:26 they're not communist anymore Jan 05 00:52:27 NeoLaptop: yes, alot eaiser just to stay in the Stable of Slackware then start going outside it when you start building lots of packs Jan 05 00:52:31 minux: ? Jan 05 00:52:31 wtf, I got it from tiger direct it's a http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:4ChxRlnAyaIJ:www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Category/category_slc.asp%3Fpage%3D2%26CatId%3D792+ultra+copper+core+tmd+fan&hl=en Jan 05 00:52:32 dummy Jan 05 00:52:37 Putz, oh, no, -current Jan 05 00:52:43 Xgates, makes sense Jan 05 00:52:48 Jan 05 00:52:48 Ultra Socket A Copper Core TMD CPU Fan For AMD Athlon Processors up to XP3200 Jan 05 00:52:49 NeoLaptop, I gathered that now heh Jan 05 00:52:53 Xgates: Are you from USA or Japan? Jan 05 00:53:01 minux: USA Jan 05 00:53:16 Putz - ever seen the moive 'Top Secret'? Where they are never quite sure if the east Germans are Russians or Nazis? :) Jan 05 00:53:27 they just keep mixing the idioms. Jan 05 00:53:28 Xgates: Cool :) I read that document you gave me, I saw 'Japanese' in there Jan 05 00:53:30 Legendre, no, sounds interesting... Jan 05 00:53:39 --> slackd00d (~bacardi@slackd00d.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:53:41 well, I need to get my game fix, bbl' Jan 05 00:53:42 <-- Putz has quit ("Hey, look; a grenade without a pin!") Jan 05 00:53:50 minux: ahh I lived and worked in Japan before :-) Jan 05 00:53:52 Putz - Slapstick schlock from the 80;s, but a funny watch. Jan 05 00:53:58 dangit, i should so grab xfce and use it Jan 05 00:54:05 <-- omero (~user@host87-25.pool80182.interbusiness.it) has left ##slackware ("ZOT!") Jan 05 00:54:06 minux: now I'm trying to get work in Europe Jan 05 00:54:08 4.2-rc3 Jan 05 00:54:26 Xgates : how old are you ? Jan 05 00:54:33 Xgates: sweet, I'd like to learn Japanese but I don't have the time :) Jan 05 00:54:38 NeoLaptop: ahh as soon as Xfce goes stable, Slackcare will compile that Jan 05 00:54:39 Xgates: What country? Jan 05 00:54:39 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:54:48 Papyrus: 44 Jan 05 00:55:16 minux : checkout kannasaver. it haves hiragana and katakana letter Jan 05 00:55:17 minux: anywhere, because once you belong to the Euro community, you can go and live and work anywhere in Europe, so that is my goal Jan 05 00:55:36 minux: anywhere I can find work in anything I have skills in Jan 05 00:56:09 Xgates: good, but be sure to visit Sweden :P cold and nice weather Jan 05 00:56:19 lol Jan 05 00:56:23 minux: you from there? Jan 05 00:56:42 yeah Jan 05 00:56:47 yeah, this is the cpu fan I have but doesn't seem to be working all that well... http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-detailsInactive.asp?EdpNo=579300 Jan 05 00:56:47 minux: ok to PM you Jan 05 00:56:59 <-- mheath has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 05 00:57:08 it said that it has 5600rpm Jan 05 00:57:12 Xgates, that's ok, i was going to use the -rc3 Jan 05 00:57:15 Xgates: Of course Jan 05 00:57:33 NeoLaptop: yeah I've had my eye on it when it goes stable Jan 05 00:57:35 minux: thx Jan 05 00:58:08 yeah. i used rc2, never had a problem with it. Jan 05 00:58:08 --> Kurt (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:58:24 <-- Kurt has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 00:58:27 it was actually very cool, has a mandrake-style (sort of, for lack of a comparison) application menu Jan 05 00:58:58 --> milkmutt (~milkmutt@210.50.148.2) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:59:01 brb compile time Jan 05 00:59:01 <-- NeoLaptop has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:59:01 --> konqueror (45@200216147197.user.veloxzone.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:59:14 <-- konqueror (45@200216147197.user.veloxzone.com.br) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:59:36 --> ryen (~ryen@dsl-082-083-224-020.arcor-ip.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:00:06 * Papyrus rebooting his brain Jan 05 01:00:14 --> Cyberax (~Cyberax@cpc3-stoc1-4-1-cust72.midd.cable.ntl.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:00:56 --> Kurt (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:00:59 <-- Kurt has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 01:01:02 <-- Dominian has quit ("brb") Jan 05 01:01:05 Does anyone use any IDS other than snort, like tripwire although preferably aide or integrit? Jan 05 01:01:18 --> Kurt (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:01:33 --> Squidy (~Squidy@200-103-007-168.cbabm7004.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:01:55 --- dwolf is now known as dwolf_ Jan 05 01:02:00 --> NeoLaptop (~NeoLaptop@cs6668186-12.austin.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:02:41 * unixfool doesn't consider tripwire to be an ids Jan 05 01:02:50 --> tevz (tevz@core.wehid.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:02:52 --> FinalStrike (~FinalStri@200.250.23.41) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:02:57 ahh... ah... ah... achooooooo! Jan 05 01:03:03 * Squall` sneezes all over ##slackware Jan 05 01:03:13 dunno what aide or integrit is Jan 05 01:03:44 good evening! \o Jan 05 01:03:47 <-- dwolf_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 01:03:51 --> _Hitek_ (~Hitek@ALille-209-1-5-120.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:03:54 * unixfool should remember to use tripwire right after his next install Jan 05 01:03:58 <-- tevz (tevz@core.wehid.net) has left ##slackware Jan 05 01:03:59 hi FinalStrike Jan 05 01:04:05 why slackware is not using utf8 by default as locale? Jan 05 01:04:19 utf == sux0rz Jan 05 01:04:31 unixfool: aide and integrit are like tripwire except GPL Jan 05 01:04:32 --> [NMFTRBTFS]helly (~kgb@adsl-68-78-117-94.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:04:50 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:04:55 Squall`: well this could be a good explanation hehe Jan 05 01:04:57 unixfool, man, i am having problems with the ogm support of the kde... do you know somone having the same problem when updated the kde to the 3.3.2 version? Jan 05 01:05:00 --> dwolf (~unknown@adsl-64-216-107-49.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:05:04 <-- str has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 01:05:06 Jeebus, Samba has alot of overhead Jan 05 01:05:13 nordle: i dunno....i should restate that....never heard of aide or integrit Jan 05 01:05:27 aide? Integrit? WTF? Jan 05 01:05:57 unixfool: I wasn't asking :) I was saying that aide and integrit ARE like tripwire Jan 05 01:06:29 did someone had the same problem with the ogm support in kde 3.3.2? Jan 05 01:06:34 <-- dwolf has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 01:06:43 ogm? Jan 05 01:06:50 omg ? Jan 05 01:06:53 yep Jan 05 01:06:57 ogm sound files Jan 05 01:06:59 Does anyone use any IDS other than snort, like tripwire although preferably aide or integrit? Jan 05 01:07:06 looks like a question to me Jan 05 01:07:07 :oP Jan 05 01:07:08 --> haddock (~haddock@h24n2c1o1119.bredband.skanova.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:07:13 ^^ Jan 05 01:07:41 Straterra: You know snort is used to detect port scans and various other intrusion attempts, well tripwire + aide + Integrit are similar IDS's except they actually tell what files were changed by whoever got access to your system. So you have a firewall, then snort, then aide.... Jan 05 01:07:43 * unixfool doesn't use kde Jan 05 01:07:53 snort is a sniffer Jan 05 01:07:57 --> Kurt3 (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:08:08 that's the ids's i'm used to Jan 05 01:08:10 brb Jan 05 01:08:20 --> kspud (~kspudIII@ip68-102-246-114.ks.ok.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:08:47 --> Dominian (~dominian@dominian.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:09:18 <-- Cirkit has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 05 01:09:18 sleepy........ Jan 05 01:09:43 --> assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:09:43 someone eles uses the swaret program? Jan 05 01:09:50 --> KaioRafael (~kaio@200.242.79.130) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:09:51 <-- Kurt has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 01:10:00 FinalStrike, swaret isn't supported here Jan 05 01:10:04 Either is slapt-get Jan 05 01:10:06 * Papyrus never heard swaret before Jan 05 01:10:16 Straterra : why not ? Jan 05 01:10:22 hmmm Jan 05 01:10:37 Papyrus, because they are unnofficial and they break machines Jan 05 01:10:45 That is the official stance of the # Jan 05 01:10:53 break machnes? Jan 05 01:10:54 <-- zaphar has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 05 01:10:56 machines* Jan 05 01:10:58 i c... Jan 05 01:10:59 oO Jan 05 01:11:04 FinalStrike, yes..it breaks Slack installations Jan 05 01:11:18 what's swaret and slapt-get do ? updating packages ? Jan 05 01:11:28 Papyrus, yeah Jan 05 01:11:46 --> tevz (tevz@core.wehid.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:11:47 they break dance and they you die... Jan 05 01:11:54 Straterra : lol..... Jan 05 01:11:56 s/they/then/ Jan 05 01:11:58 i c Jan 05 01:12:15 the dependencies are still a problem when upgrade some OS compnents... Jan 05 01:12:22 <-- carlosm has quit () Jan 05 01:13:50 unixfool: when your back, my first question was a question yes, but you said "i dunno...i should restate that" after I had typed "aide and integrit are like tripwire" which was in response to your statement that you didn't know what integrit or aide was....simple, just follow the stuff in order :) Anyway, I think I'll just try integrit and see if it works, kept getting seg faults on aide, but as no one here appears to be using it theres no proof that it Jan 05 01:13:50 should work anyway... Jan 05 01:14:04 :( hi all Jan 05 01:14:10 assd, \o Jan 05 01:14:23 o/ Jan 05 01:14:26 quit Jan 05 01:14:27 <-- Dominian has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 01:14:30 :P Jan 05 01:14:35 <-- KaioRafael has quit ("Fui embora") Jan 05 01:14:37 guys... there is a release date for the dlack 10.1? Jan 05 01:14:47 FinalStrike, no Jan 05 01:14:54 i have problem for install a printer in my dear slackware Jan 05 01:14:58 <-- snuva has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 01:14:58 ask volkerding for that Jan 05 01:15:07 You can subscribe and get it for $24.95!! Jan 05 01:15:21 FinalStrike: u can help me? Jan 05 01:15:24 * phrag has subscription Jan 05 01:15:30 In UK, thats like £17.50 including shipping! Jan 05 01:15:40 24,95 x 2,70 + shipping for me... ^^i live in Brazil XD \o\ Jan 05 01:15:48 crazy value :) Jan 05 01:15:50 XGizzmo: charging wireless headphones now =P Jan 05 01:16:24 assd, whatz the matta? Jan 05 01:16:26 phrag, mine need batteries, ick Jan 05 01:16:39 Straterra: we are setting up voip Jan 05 01:16:48 phrag, aaaah Jan 05 01:16:55 Anyone know if Slackware's GCC is capable of cross compiling? Jan 05 01:16:59 (I assume it is) Jan 05 01:17:00 <-- Kurt3 has quit (Connection reset by peer) Jan 05 01:17:04 phrag: me too has subscription, but feel very slightly guilty that Im getting slack 10.1 for like £17.50, considering what Pats gone through to produce it...but thats just the rate... Jan 05 01:17:34 nordle: i leeched the store too, to show my support =) Jan 05 01:17:39 and the goodies were nice Jan 05 01:17:41 FinalStrike: i can't install printer Jan 05 01:17:44 with no import fees Jan 05 01:17:51 nordle: UK Jan 05 01:18:07 Hmm Jan 05 01:18:10 assd, printer... the eternal problem.. XD Jan 05 01:18:14 How much do the 10.1 CD's cost? Jan 05 01:18:20 --> Kurt (~kmw@evvlinlwt-nas-03-s196.cinergycom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:18:29 phrag: how soon after slackware releases do you get the CD set from subscription? Jan 05 01:18:32 phrag: It was $24.95 for slack + $9 for shipping Jan 05 01:18:36 Ouch Jan 05 01:18:38 that's expensive Jan 05 01:18:46 acidkill: not sure, only subscribed recently Jan 05 01:18:47 <-- jmedina has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 01:18:48 <-- haddock (~haddock@h24n2c1o1119.bredband.skanova.com) has left ##slackware Jan 05 01:18:50 assd, did you anabled the printer support in rc.modules? or embeded it in the kernel? Jan 05 01:19:01 Straterra: are you joking ? Jan 05 01:19:05 <-- experience has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 01:19:06 phrag, no Jan 05 01:19:15 Artimus, id assume it isnt... Jan 05 01:19:16 Straterra: your windows cost >$200 am i right ? Jan 05 01:19:18 expensive!! he's giving it away virtually.....oh wait :) Jan 05 01:19:26 phrag, yes but none of it came outta my pocket Jan 05 01:19:27 i should buy printer. but damn, those RAM is sooo tempting..... Jan 05 01:19:35 sladegen: Damn, I've gotta compile my packages in a 64-bit environment, then... Jan 05 01:19:42 FinalStrike: uhm, let me se Jan 05 01:19:48 Straterra: what does that have to do with anything ? Jan 05 01:20:00 the cost of the product is what you are complaining about Jan 05 01:20:06 phrag, because this $34 would come outta my pocket Jan 05 01:20:14 phrag, I'm complaining because I don't have $34 Jan 05 01:20:23 Artimus: I saw a KDE developer is running Slack and doing his own 64-bit version, I could look for link if you fancy it? Jan 05 01:20:24 and if you paid for your copy of windows it would do too Jan 05 01:20:36 nordle: Yeah, that'd help Jan 05 01:20:41 I would be REALLY complaining if I paid for this Windows Jan 05 01:21:10 well someone did, unless you are running pirated material, which would not surprise me Jan 05 01:21:13 Though I don't think that they'd take my packages. I'm adding dependancy information to them, which would probably break the concept of Slack... Jan 05 01:21:22 * NeoLaptop builds xfce-4.2-RC3 via scripts ... :D Jan 05 01:21:25 <-- helly has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 05 01:21:39 --> Dominian (~dominian@dominian.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:21:40 and that is a main problem... nobody pays for windows, uses OSS apps on windows... still not paying; Linux will get nowhere in these conditions Jan 05 01:21:45 Straterra: Dont you reckon that a near death experiance and all the hard work that goes into keeping Slack Slack and not going down the "we must aim for the desktop", whatever the feck that means, is worth $34!!! Jan 05 01:22:04 there is anything like you build you own tgzs by your own.... Jan 05 01:22:14 \o\ Jan 05 01:22:16 nordle, don't you think I should spend $34 on gas to get to school before I buy Slackware with it? Jan 05 01:22:21 With no job, $34 is hard to come by Jan 05 01:22:30 i'm glad patrick doesn't aim for the "desktop" with Slackware, as it's more stable than all other "desktop" distros Jan 05 01:22:39 phrag, this is a fully legal, store bought Windows XP Home edition Jan 05 01:22:47 it is a holiday in cambodia!!! Jan 05 01:22:48 therefore someone paid Jan 05 01:22:57 phrag, yeah.. Jan 05 01:23:07 Straterra: screw school, walk! Jan 05 01:23:11 so imagine if they had not, and bought slackware Jan 05 01:23:12 pay for ruWindows? it more fun to pay for a Linux Distro. it's cheap and help the devteam... XD the good action for the day.... \o\ /o/ Jan 05 01:23:16 jog Jan 05 01:23:21 nordle, walk..It's a half hour drive Jan 05 01:23:21 how much change would they have in their pocket Jan 05 01:23:36 which you could take extra trips to school with on a weekend Jan 05 01:23:41 quittt, holyday in cambodia? lol. Jan 05 01:23:41 teleport TT Jan 05 01:23:43 ^^ Jan 05 01:23:44 phrag, alot..but then I would be running Win98SE instead of XP, because they wouldn't have stayed with Slack Jan 05 01:23:50 I have tried to convert them, but noo Jan 05 01:23:58 phrag: or get more lap dances :-D Jan 05 01:23:59 They hate anything except what they know Jan 05 01:24:00 FinalStrike DEAD KENNEDYS Jan 05 01:24:12 raindog: no more! Jan 05 01:24:20 =P Jan 05 01:24:37 heh Jan 05 01:24:41 Straterra: I wasn't being serious, all Im saying is that its GPL, if you can't afford it thats your business, get it from a mate or whatever, but all Im saying is that $34 for Slackware 10.1 is a steal! Jan 05 01:24:44 ooo Jan 05 01:24:57 nordle, How about..$0 and I download it? THAT is a steal Jan 05 01:25:33 nordle : 34 $ + slackware tatoo that says " i am geek " IS a steal Jan 05 01:25:43 l0l Jan 05 01:25:50 geek tatoo Jan 05 01:25:52 Straterra: how can you download it? Surely your not running an expensive monthly broadband connection :) Jan 05 01:25:54 Straterra, You're parents are paying for internet to, it's not exactly $0 Jan 05 01:26:02 eelriver, Again..$0 for me Jan 05 01:26:11 <-- quittt has quit ("Vision[0.9.6-0203]: i've been blurred!") Jan 05 01:26:13 nordle, Sure I am..but I am not paying for it Jan 05 01:26:24 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:26:30 --> ctg (~ctg@adsl-81-7-109-50.takas.lt) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:26:31 --> Putz (~putz@ame-broadband2-ws-60.dsl.airstreamcomm.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:26:50 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:26:51 how about " I LOVE COMPILING " tatoo ?? Jan 05 01:26:58 <-- Putz has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 01:27:01 discussion about useless junk: 0$ Jan 05 01:27:02 --> Putz (~putz@ame-broadband2-ws-60.dsl.airstreamcomm.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:27:13 <-- abby has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 01:27:18 * NeoLaptop already has a "i love compiling" tatoo on his ass for other rpm distros to kiss Jan 05 01:27:22 downloading slackware: $0 Jan 05 01:27:30 let's put some "I am piping" tatoo on the groin ? Jan 05 01:27:30 pimp slapping a punk: Priceless Jan 05 01:27:48 Maybe "SO WHAT IS A BSOD?" Jan 05 01:27:50 Stealing Windows XP and getting cought by the government : $50,000 Jan 05 01:28:00 Straterra, hehe more than that Jan 05 01:28:00 BRB Jan 05 01:28:01 hahaha Jan 05 01:28:04 <-- FriedBob has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 01:28:13 "WHO IS BOFH?" Jan 05 01:28:19 <-- Dominian has quit ("I'm out for a bit") Jan 05 01:28:32 put some "this is tunneling" tatto on your ass Jan 05 01:28:40 Straterra, You better save up buy the Slack CDs before they block your internet from anything with "linux" in it. Once they find out how addicting it is, you never know.. Jan 05 01:28:43 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:28:51 eelriver, they already know I use Linux Jan 05 01:29:16 But do they know about your "problem"? Jan 05 01:29:41 Can you stop whenever you want? Jan 05 01:29:50 Papyrus, LOL Jan 05 01:29:50 ouch.... i put some GNU/Linux Splash screen on my Win 98SE. is that ILLEGAL ?? Jan 05 01:30:01 Papyrus: http://lavamonkeys.com/img/tat.jpg :D Jan 05 01:30:02 Papyrus, win98se is illegal according to the DoJ, go figure Jan 05 01:30:11 NeoLaptop : lol Jan 05 01:30:33 --> W|GG-Laptop (~deez@ip68-98-179-238.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:30:56 i think i want to put some "ENCRYPTED" slogan on the front side of my underwear Jan 05 01:31:04 ? Jan 05 01:31:07 jeez Jan 05 01:31:15 lol. Joking Jan 05 01:31:18 =) Jan 05 01:31:22 <-- Cyberax has quit ("L8r dudes") Jan 05 01:31:27 Anyway, off to bed now. Good night! Jan 05 01:31:34 or.... "piping".... Jan 05 01:31:36 --> newbie^ (1000@85.96.96.21) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:31:37 night Jan 05 01:31:41 Papyrus, LOL Jan 05 01:31:44 man.. i almost jumped the window(i live in the 7th flood) today... my cedega could not install the "Ragnarok Online" game... Jan 05 01:31:49 how can i create a bootable cd from my bzImage file? Jan 05 01:32:03 i use cdrecord for burning cds. Jan 05 01:32:25 Artimus: Its in his blog where he sais "running Gentoo until I finish making a 64-bit version of Slackware." http://fredemmott.co.uk/index.php?page=blog Jan 05 01:32:38 raindog : that was "love" Jan 05 01:32:40 --> FrEYEdBob (NoIdent@adsl-68-92-123-114.dsl.spfdmo.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:32:44 nordle: I have Gentoo installed, but I'm sick of it already... Jan 05 01:33:07 <-- FriedBob has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 01:33:07 --- FrEYEdBob is now known as FriedBob Jan 05 01:33:09 Artimus : yeah....i don't like gentoo Jan 05 01:33:10 when my mom say: "why did you install the win2k in the pc just for gamming? it is better that way"... i almost fainted angry Jan 05 01:33:10 <-- FriedBob has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 05 01:33:36 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:34:17 Papyrus: I only installed it for the compiler Jan 05 01:34:26 Artimus: I was just quoting the section in this guys blog, the crucial part is "until I finish making a 64-bit version of Slackware." so you could if you want to mail him to see about leafing it once its done, might be worth a shot. Jan 05 01:34:29 But if I can just use a cross compiler... Jan 05 01:34:43 Oi Jan 05 01:34:46 --> StevenR (~sr@jtrobsonsys.demon.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:34:49 oi Jan 05 01:34:59 more brazilians online? lol Jan 05 01:35:02 english here man Jan 05 01:35:13 \o FinalStrike <<< br too XD Jan 05 01:35:13 Any idea what pat uses for CFLAGS when he compiles? Jan 05 01:35:32 CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i486 -mcpu=i686" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=i486 -mcpu=i686" ./configure --prefix=/usr Jan 05 01:35:49 --> jmedina (~jmedina@63.70.73.227) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:35:51 Artimus, you can find that info in probably most of the slackbuild scripts Jan 05 01:36:05 StevenR: I picked one without them, by mistake Jan 05 01:36:25 Artimus one trick to find out is got the source and look in the slack.build scripts :) Jan 05 01:36:33 got/goto Jan 05 01:36:40 --> nachox (~marambio@200-122-57-177.dsl.prima.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:36:43 Artimus, well nordle has supplied some for you, and they look right to me Jan 05 01:36:55 oneforall: I know, I only picked one to look at. It didn't have CFLAGS set Jan 05 01:36:59 bib bib bob Jan 05 01:37:01 I should have checked more of them Jan 05 01:37:09 I'm thinking -march=k8 -O2 Jan 05 01:37:11 --> dwolf (~unknown@adsl-64-216-107-49.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:37:28 spongebob ! Jan 05 01:37:50 Artimus, what about -athlon64 or is this for opteron too? Jan 05 01:37:52 yeah dig dig ::::) not all do Jan 05 01:37:52 []pants Jan 05 01:38:04 hello friends, how can i create a bootable cd from my bzImage file? i use cdrecord for burning cds.? Jan 05 01:38:10 <-- assd has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 01:38:15 nordle: k8, athlon64, and opteron are all the same Jan 05 01:38:23 <-- spenser has quit () Jan 05 01:38:26 i damn...i am a computer junkie Jan 05 01:38:26 According to Gentoo, that is Jan 05 01:38:31 newbie^, google for isolinux Jan 05 01:38:39 I dispise the fact that I'm depending on LFS and Gentoo here... Jan 05 01:38:46 oh ok Jan 05 01:38:52 StevenR, on google all links about livecd Jan 05 01:39:08 i wanna create image from my bzimage Jan 05 01:39:17 newbie^, isolinux is the bootable cd version of syslinux Jan 05 01:39:28 ok im searching Jan 05 01:40:02 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 01:40:18 --> str (~str@216.230.158.50) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:40:20 hip hip hop... Jan 05 01:40:29 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 Jan 05 01:40:40 * Squall` burns Papyrus Jan 05 01:40:46 --- nixor removes ban on *!*@207.172.254.149 Jan 05 01:40:57 --> adjacent (~postmaste@63.209.153.101) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:40:58 heuheuehue Jan 05 01:41:26 Papyrus, you missed out the parity and stop bits Jan 05 01:41:27 damn you Squall` , you just broke my interpreter ;P Jan 05 01:41:55 <-- FriedBob has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 05 01:41:58 * acidkill notes he makes excelent eggs. Jan 05 01:42:31 <-- chrej (~ej@roobol.xs4all.nl) has left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.9.0 : http://kopete.kde.org") Jan 05 01:42:44 --> Paspo (unique@202.155.89.198) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:42:57 <-- Papyrus has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 05 01:43:03 --- Paspo is now known as Papyrus Jan 05 01:43:16 meh Jan 05 01:43:51 --> abby (1000@83.133.10.81) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:43:51 --> assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:43:55 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:44:31 * Papyrus rebooting his brain Jan 05 01:44:33 A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous, got me? Jan 05 01:44:49 hmmm, Nova, on PBS at 8pm, has a thing about Mars and the rovers. Jan 05 01:44:51 --> diamonium (~diamonium@host81-7-57-52.surfport24.v21.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:44:51 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@*.surfport24.v21.co.uk Jan 05 01:44:51 <-- nixor has kicked diamonium from ##slackware (banned: durcanoll - swearing / flooding / trolling) Jan 05 01:45:01 acidkill - hey, thanks for reminding me! Jan 05 01:45:04 --> willwork4foo (~xxxx@cpc1-farn2-3-0-cust207.glfd.cable.ntl.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:45:17 and at 9, they have another show about mars. should be a good 2hrs. Jan 05 01:45:21 hey foo Jan 05 01:45:22 acidkill : pathfinder ? Jan 05 01:45:32 PBS? I would rather gouge my eyes out with a spork and watch The History Channel Jan 05 01:45:35 hrm...i dont think so. Jan 05 01:46:32 both are about Spirit. Jan 05 01:46:47 oh Jan 05 01:46:52 * tewmten burns some coconut incense :D Jan 05 01:47:03 hey nachox!!!!!!!!!! check this out dude... http://www.originaludderbalm.com/gear/nosewarmers.php Jan 05 01:47:08 tewmten: check out that link too dude Jan 05 01:47:11 it's hilarious Jan 05 01:47:15 tewmten: good stuff. Jan 05 01:47:19 I want one and so does my girlfriend Jan 05 01:47:25 dude I sooo need one of those Jan 05 01:47:47 how amazing are they? Jan 05 01:47:51 hye dude's some download acelerator? Jan 05 01:47:52 I'm going to order myself a custom one Jan 05 01:47:57 i wish i had a tivo.... Jan 05 01:48:03 assd: wget Jan 05 01:48:13 how d4x, prozilla Jan 05 01:48:17 brb Jan 05 01:48:22 <-- NeoLaptop has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 01:48:32 acidkill: I wish I was a little bit taller Jan 05 01:48:34 I wish I was a baller Jan 05 01:48:36 looks funny Jan 05 01:48:48 willwork4foo: do they ship to europe? Jan 05 01:48:53 tewmten: wget is a good option Jan 05 01:48:59 assd: that's why I suggested it Jan 05 01:49:01 --> root___ (~root@h000c417b8c61.ne.client2.attbi.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:49:02 --- nixor sets ban on *!~root@* Jan 05 01:49:02 <-- nixor has kicked root___ from ##slackware (banned: It is very dangerous to IRC as root. Please return under a user account.) Jan 05 01:49:03 wget -c --passive-ftp makes me drool Jan 05 01:49:11 tewmten: yep afaik Jan 05 01:49:38 --> NeoLaptop (~NeoLaptop@cs6668186-12.austin.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:49:41 oO Jan 05 01:49:45 wow Jan 05 01:49:56 logging in as root in the irc? man... Jan 05 01:50:07 \^0^/ Jan 05 01:50:24 tewmten: lol Jan 05 01:50:27 <-- slackd00_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 05 01:50:40 willwork4foo: i wish i had the number of a girl i would call her.... Jan 05 01:51:01 acidkill: took you a while... Jan 05 01:51:10 yea, was on my other desktop. Jan 05 01:51:12 I wish I had a rabbit in a hat Jan 05 01:51:12 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-216-77-192-2.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:51:30 and a bat...and a six foot...something. Jan 05 01:51:45 yeah - those lyrics get a bit wooly for me too Jan 05 01:51:46 something-something Jan 05 01:51:59 so anyway Jan 05 01:52:06 who's going to buy a nose mitten? Jan 05 01:52:15 lol Jan 05 01:52:20 someone with a big nose Jan 05 01:52:21 You got a nose mitten for sale? Jan 05 01:52:29 I've been looking for one for a while now. Jan 05 01:52:31 xfce 4.2-rc3 = kewl Jan 05 01:52:38 http://www.originaludderbalm.com/gear/nosewarmers.php Jan 05 01:52:43 At0mic_PC: look no further Jan 05 01:52:59 My quest has ended. Jan 05 01:53:13 <-- Squall` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 01:53:28 Ya know... Jan 05 01:53:31 ? Jan 05 01:53:50 --> goon12 (~Goon@cpe-66-189-35-129.ma.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:53:51 I was thinking "How could I make myself look more like a dork?" Jan 05 01:53:53 Then it hit me. Jan 05 01:53:57 NOSE MITTENS! Jan 05 01:54:13 :/ Jan 05 01:54:22 lol Jan 05 01:54:27 you already have pocket protectors? Jan 05 01:54:30 ROFL Jan 05 01:54:39 dorks dont need nose mittens... now storks... perhaps... Jan 05 01:54:47 installing win98 SE makes me looks like a dork... Jan 05 01:54:56 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 01:54:57 * nachox greets W|GG Jan 05 01:55:08 Papyrus: no, that makes you look like a mug Jan 05 01:55:11 Papyrus: Nah. just makes you look like you want to play games. Jan 05 01:55:34 installing slackware makes me looks like a MAN ! Jan 05 01:55:39 A MAN ! Jan 05 01:55:48 A woMAN Jan 05 01:55:49 Not A MAN.... Jan 05 01:55:52 THE MAN Jan 05 01:55:54 --- buzzedlightyear is now known as buzzed|work Jan 05 01:56:04 HE-MAN ! Jan 05 01:56:15 SU-PE-RR-MAN Jan 05 01:56:22 *gulps* I hate automated tools. This program is supposed to compile me a 64-bit glibc and gcc.... Jan 05 01:56:27 SHE-MAN Jan 05 01:56:31 STUUUUUUPER DUCK! Jan 05 01:56:32 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:57:50 what is loop device? Jan 05 01:57:51 meh, looks like someone is about to OD Jan 05 01:57:55 why i need it Jan 05 01:58:07 OD / Jan 05 01:58:10 OD ? Jan 05 01:58:17 * W|GG-Laptop really needs to download his email off his email server....671 emails in its inbox Jan 05 01:58:32 newbie^, for example: mount /some.iso /mnt/place -o loop Jan 05 01:58:32 OD == overdrive Jan 05 01:58:40 newbie^, e.g. to mount .isos Jan 05 01:58:46 W|GG-Laptop, almost ;) Jan 05 01:58:48 lol Jan 05 01:58:59 c'mon....... Jan 05 01:59:13 is it virtual device? Jan 05 01:59:18 i'm so tired i can barely see Jan 05 01:59:24 newbie^, yeah Jan 05 01:59:28 <-- Straterra has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 01:59:29 brb Jan 05 01:59:30 ok Jan 05 01:59:30 --- sami_ is now known as sami^ Jan 05 01:59:48 :/ Jan 05 01:59:49 i ll add it to my kernal as module i forgot it =)) Jan 05 02:00:36 newbie^, if you have "right" file... e.g. you can dd floppy disk or partition and mount it using loop Jan 05 02:01:24 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:01:37 hey...anyone know OASIS band ? Jan 05 02:01:44 do i need to add floppy disk to loop device? Jan 05 02:01:58 <-- Kurt has quit ("Total free-market capitalism: the ONLY moral system!") Jan 05 02:01:59 all of these mount actions for loop? Jan 05 02:02:32 <-- StevenR has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:02:48 dunno, if you are 'making menuconfig' then just leave it as M, it may come useful Jan 05 02:03:09 i did menuconfig im searching it=P Jan 05 02:03:20 <-- assd has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 02:05:14 i couldnt find loop dev support choice from menuconfig Jan 05 02:05:17 --> jota (~jota@201.243.212.145) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:06:33 --> assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:06:36 <-- goon12 has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:07:39 Papyrus: why about OASIS? Jan 05 02:08:20 nordle : you know OASIS ? Jan 05 02:08:30 --> PlugadA (1001@201.0.55.235) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:08:34 All your dreams are made, when your chained to the mirror and the razor blade, todays the day that all the world will see. Jan 05 02:08:56 nordle : they still exist ? Jan 05 02:09:04 :) Jan 05 02:09:10 yeah they still exist Jan 05 02:09:35 --> n2iko (n2iko@ool-182c5a59.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:09:43 aah... thought they gone Jan 05 02:09:55 They turn out once every couple of years, do a sell out gig at wembley, rake in 10m quid and then naff off again :) Jan 05 02:10:28 yeah.... Jan 05 02:10:45 they like, 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 Jan 05 02:11:01 <-- Dr_Stein has quit ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") Jan 05 02:11:15 <-- newbie^ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:11:22 right. I'm off to dream about wooly nose mittens Jan 05 02:11:49 (anyone who is totally confused about that remark, check out http://www.originaludderbalm.com/gear/nosewarmers.php for a fairly good explanation) Jan 05 02:12:08 night folks Jan 05 02:12:13 night Jan 05 02:12:20 <-- willwork4foo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:12:34 --> quittt (1000@200-170-123-107.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:12:38 maddox.xmission.org Jan 05 02:12:43 Still one of the best! But there are others too, like White Stripes, Travis, McFly, Stereophonics etc Jan 05 02:13:03 oh... what about rialto ? Jan 05 02:13:09 and coldplay ? Jan 05 02:14:08 * Papyrus listening to Oasis - Champagne Supernova Jan 05 02:14:21 <-- [Granger] has quit () Jan 05 02:14:48 <-- str has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:14:48 Coldplay are sound, rialto??? Are they the guys that sound a bit like pulp? Jan 05 02:14:53 <-- Squall` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:15:33 o no, wait, more like Madness Jan 05 02:15:33 yes. rialto Jan 05 02:15:42 madness ? Jan 05 02:16:23 <-- n2iko has quit ("leaving") Jan 05 02:16:32 <-- eelriver has quit () Jan 05 02:16:37 --> n2iko (n2iko@ool-182c5a59.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:17:35 http://www.madness.co.uk/home_frame.html Jan 05 02:17:43 <-- Putz has quit ("Hey, look; a grenade without a pin!") Jan 05 02:18:25 "Our House" was probably their most famous Jan 05 02:19:28 Papyrus: Are you in USA? Jan 05 02:19:45 <-- _Hitek_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:20:00 oh oh pulp pulp yeah i tried to remember that name... /me falls into senseless stupor... Jan 05 02:21:15 <-- msamsing has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 05 02:21:18 miscellaneous trivia: you have a machine you get a ping response for, but is not responding over the network/internet. why is this happening / what do you check first? Jan 05 02:21:52 not responding??? in what way Jan 05 02:22:03 --> Teratogen (~leontopod@intertwingled.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:22:19 its respoding, you just pinged it Jan 05 02:22:20 responds to ping, but does not respond to anything requiring a response, such as telnet/ssh/samba/nfs Jan 05 02:22:23 nope Jan 05 02:22:23 <-- quittt has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 02:22:33 ping requires a response ;) Jan 05 02:22:44 it could be that the machine has locked up Jan 05 02:23:06 usually ping will still work, but none of the daemons will. Jan 05 02:23:08 actually, it does, but one thing they don't say is that any DNS server that sees a ping for a host that has an entry will respond with a ping. the dns server is responding. Jan 05 02:23:11 NeoLaptop : iptables ? or do the demon running ? Jan 05 02:23:16 --> Putz (~putz@ame-broadband2-ws-60.dsl.airstreamcomm.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:23:30 so at a home LAN, a disconnected machine won't ping, but a machine with a public IP, dns might respond. Jan 05 02:23:31 With ssh + telnet, do you get a timeout or a "no route to host" error? Jan 05 02:23:55 NeoLaptop: dns and ip addresses are on two different layers Jan 05 02:24:02 youre confusing terms Jan 05 02:24:10 or "host is unreachable" Jan 05 02:24:14 --> quittt (dsadas@200-170-123-107.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:24:18 d_low, that's from my aunt quizzing me, she's IBM/AIX/Tivoli certified, works Tivoli support Jan 05 02:24:26 she had a machine in the netherlands do that Jan 05 02:24:26 ok, well shes wrong Jan 05 02:24:49 it's similar to the "well i can ping yahoo.com but i can't reach it as http://www.yahoo.com" Jan 05 02:25:02 ##slackware, eh? Jan 05 02:25:03 if i ping 64.218.5.55 then either that ip or its nat will respond, but it has nothing to do with dns Jan 05 02:25:04 since when? Jan 05 02:25:12 <-- quittt has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 02:25:14 NeoLaptop: like i said youre confusing ip and dns Jan 05 02:25:15 Teratogen, yesterday Jan 05 02:25:16 --> quittt (dsadas@200-170-123-107.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:25:17 yahoo.com is dns Jan 05 02:25:18 <-- n2iko has quit ("leaving") Jan 05 02:25:23 I lost control of my tty's Jan 05 02:25:25 but still, i told her that while i believe her, that's a really freaky dns server Jan 05 02:25:25 ip is 64.218.5.55 Jan 05 02:25:39 not really, ever heard of akamai? Jan 05 02:25:40 when I kill X, the last snapshot of the X session remains Jan 05 02:25:54 would anyone know why tty's won't come back up? Jan 05 02:25:57 akamai is evil Jan 05 02:26:08 akamai use to respond to alot of pings, but i dont think they do anymore Jan 05 02:26:14 at least not for yahoo or google. Jan 05 02:26:20 uhmm, why would a dns server respond to pings, which are not destined to it? Jan 05 02:26:21 akamai is evil, evil ad hosting :D Jan 05 02:26:27 --> usr13 (~gayle@65.127.78.140) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:26:35 akamai isnt adhosting. Jan 05 02:26:41 <-- Papyrus has quit () Jan 05 02:26:41 lol Jan 05 02:26:42 hey i'm not here to argue, just to quote interesting trivia Jan 05 02:26:47 <-- Tukon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 02:26:51 that trivia is wrong Jan 05 02:26:56 NeoLaptop: well, that trivia isnt correct Jan 05 02:27:06 --> FieldySnuts (jrL3eF35H6@fieldysnuts.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:27:09 dns doesnt respond to ip pings, thats rediculous Jan 05 02:27:12 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:27:20 <-- FieldySnuts (jrL3eF35H6@fieldysnuts.user) has left ##slackware (".") Jan 05 02:27:23 uh, ok, sure, she's worked 20+ networking with various *nix, i wasn't going to disagree, since she's paid much more than i am, and for supporting Tivoli Jan 05 02:27:29 dns servers may respond to domain name pings if its a caching dns server Jan 05 02:27:38 like in the case of akamai Jan 05 02:27:39 NeoLaptop : most likely you misread/misheard her Jan 05 02:27:47 ananke, possibly Jan 05 02:28:02 its correctly missleading... /me stupors on Jan 05 02:28:04 NeoLaptop : what you're talking is impossible. plain and simple. Jan 05 02:28:11 --> n2iko (n2iko@ool-182c5a59.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:28:11 yeap Jan 05 02:28:12 <-- Tukon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 02:28:28 <-- assd has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 02:28:29 its like saying you ssh into a machine and get the switch instead Jan 05 02:28:41 <-- n2iko has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 02:28:46 and the switch is unmanaged Jan 05 02:29:17 NeoLaptop : when you type 'ping whatever.com', your machine will perform a dns lookup, and will use the ip it got to do the actual work. traffic is routed via tcp/ip. it doesn't get to any dns server after that Jan 05 02:29:29 <-- abby has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 05 02:29:30 oh, ananke, btw, acpi does work for hibernate and suspend, i have it working right now Jan 05 02:29:38 ananke: icmp ;) Jan 05 02:29:42 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:29:50 --> assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:29:50 d_low : shh, damnit :) Jan 05 02:29:51 lol Jan 05 02:29:56 close enough tho Jan 05 02:30:00 d_low : but you're correct Jan 05 02:30:22 <-- WhiteRabbit has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 02:30:24 NeoLaptop : that's news to me. is it real hibernate/suspend or the software suspend? Jan 05 02:30:26 same difference really, at least its the same layer(kinda) Jan 05 02:30:28 icmp works on ether.... who knew, its back from the grave (ether i mean ;) Jan 05 02:30:40 <-- quittt has quit ("Vision[0.9.6-0203]: i've been blurred!") Jan 05 02:30:54 ananke, using klaptop, which is using acpid Jan 05 02:31:11 hibernate does kind of workes... suspending also if you give it some excercise Jan 05 02:31:18 thanks fhobia =) Jan 05 02:31:26 i'm right now sitting stomped over some silly perl cgi crap. developers got something working on one server, now after moving it elsewhere it doesn't work. however, it doesn't work in certain browsers only Jan 05 02:31:32 XGizzmo: rand fhobia fine, echo is your end Jan 05 02:31:48 almost like i'm hearing what your hearing, when you hear it Jan 05 02:32:11 hmm, is anybody using any browsers other than mozilla/firefox/konqueror/ie ? Jan 05 02:32:23 i have something i'd like to test Jan 05 02:32:35 --> quittt (dsadas@200-170-123-107.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:33:00 ananke, if you have a sec i can download opera Jan 05 02:33:01 ananke, galeon? epiphany? links? Lynx? Jan 05 02:33:15 NeoLaptop : galeon or epiphany would be great Jan 05 02:33:18 <-- nordle has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:33:27 k, here's the weird scenario Jan 05 02:33:31 ananke, sorry, i'm using -current, don't have it, but i can reboot into mandrake 10 and do it. you want me to? Jan 05 02:34:03 wroot Jan 05 02:34:15 since they are based on geko, youl probably get a similar responce with firefox Jan 05 02:34:25 first, go to http://patric.vbi.vt.edu , then go to 'Hepatitis A virus', then you will see a table. In that table, select 'gT' from the first row. at this point, you will get to a screen with images of bunch of arrors. click on the first one. Jan 05 02:35:18 ananke, i don't see a "gT" Jan 05 02:35:19 and i can't figure out wtf is the common link. some browsers at this point display a proper table, some don't. i've been already blaming it on the damn web developers Jan 05 02:35:42 NeoLaptop : it's in the table, second column, second item Jan 05 02:35:47 now everything you do are being LOGGED Jan 05 02:35:48 HAHA Jan 05 02:35:53 you have gB and gT Jan 05 02:35:55 I WILL CONQUER THIS WORLD Jan 05 02:35:56 ananke, ok, i don't get anything, it's saying i'll get something, i don't see anything Jan 05 02:36:10 NeoLaptop : yep, and that's the damn problem. Jan 05 02:36:25 ananke, your website?! Jan 05 02:36:40 NeoLaptop : huh? Jan 05 02:36:51 I've almost got my 64-bit toolchain (for cross compiling) setup ^_^ Jan 05 02:37:02 quittt, relax and dont caps Jan 05 02:37:16 =] Jan 05 02:37:20 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:38:11 ananke, its a new errorusing old code? Jan 05 02:38:36 (damn keyboard) Jan 05 02:38:48 nachox : the code was written and tested on another server. after being moved to the new server, it seems to quit working properly Jan 05 02:39:00 <-- Yamabushi has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 05 02:39:04 actually, you can still access the old server: http://staff.vbi.vt.edu/patric Jan 05 02:39:29 ananke, hmm, apache is configured the same way in both servers? same modules? Jan 05 02:39:35 hmm, nevermind, that's completely not working Jan 05 02:40:10 #slackware ##slackware :Forwarding to another channel Jan 05 02:40:22 what it means that? Jan 05 02:40:26 nachox : nope. similar, but the thing is that the original server had ton of things on it. we only set up the essential things on the new server. Jan 05 02:40:38 nachox : the problem is, i can't figure out what's affecting it. i get no errors in the logs Jan 05 02:40:44 hmm damn app is looking for db1 . we have db3 and 4 now Jan 05 02:40:57 jmedina, #slackware is now ##slackware Jan 05 02:41:08 it seems that session handling may be screwed up. i'm blaming the developers. they're blaming me. fun stuff Jan 05 02:41:28 Straterra, why? Jan 05 02:41:31 ananke, well, it will be a tedious process, but if there are no error logs then configure apache the same way, start taking out modules and pray Jan 05 02:41:40 jmedina, read the topic Jan 05 02:41:43 what happened with the old channel? Jan 05 02:41:53 jmedina, its the same channel Jan 05 02:42:46 i see nothing about the channel in the topic Jan 05 02:43:01 Read the urls Jan 05 02:43:10 <-- Squidy has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:44:51 <-- assd has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:45:33 ohhhh Jan 05 02:46:40 ananke: what would be the correct behaviour? with opera i got a page with a few links (view the whole replication,... ) Jan 05 02:46:57 --> fariseo (~fariseo@adsl-98-03-240.m-dsl.nextra.sk) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:47:21 --> VitaMint (n2iko@ool-182c5a59.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:47:39 --- nixor has changed the topic to: Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support Channel - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | 15 minute silence scheduled for Wednesday 5th January 2005 at 12:00pm UTC as a mark of respect for those killed in the recent Asian natural disaster and Argentinia Jan 05 02:48:10 <-- war- has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 05 02:48:50 --> assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:49:06 nachox : the correct behaviour is that there would be a table displayed Jan 05 02:49:12 long topic Jan 05 02:49:21 it seems that it's something with the code though Jan 05 02:50:43 nope, no table, just a few links Jan 05 02:50:46 kobs, -current update Jan 05 02:50:59 <-- Lepine has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 02:52:04 --> n2iko (n2iko@ool-182c5a59.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:53:01 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:54:08 --> mjt_ (~ryen@dsl-082-083-224-020.arcor-ip.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:55:53 --> snarf (~Jeff@12-220-134-83.client.insightBB.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:56:41 --> dadexter (~dadexter@modemcable032.0-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:56:50 meh...Nova was kinda week. Jan 05 02:56:51 pretty cool, but weak. Jan 05 02:56:54 <-- assd has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:57:08 --> _Derek_ (Derek@derek.iglou.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:57:57 <-- dwolf has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 02:58:48 --> usr13_ (~gayle@65.127.78.145) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:59:23 <-- VitaMint has quit ("leaving") Jan 05 02:59:23 <-- _Derek_ (Derek@derek.iglou.com) has left ##slackware Jan 05 03:00:01 <-- jmedina has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 03:00:09 i'm new to freenode, what's the deal with all the ##channels? Jan 05 03:00:22 snarf, ## channels are unofficial, # channels are official Jan 05 03:00:29 we're in ##slackware because Slackware does not officially endorse us Jan 05 03:00:38 ah Jan 05 03:00:50 * dadexter coughs Jan 05 03:01:04 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 03:01:10 I am going to email pat and ask him to endorse us Jan 05 03:01:22 so I don't have to see ## Jan 05 03:01:38 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 03:01:54 juice, that's pretty sad Jan 05 03:02:04 --> d3ity (1000@207.172.254.149) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 03:02:04 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@207.172.254.149 Jan 05 03:02:04 <-- nixor has kicked d3ity from ##slackware (banned: d3ity - perm ban - constant trolling) Jan 05 03:02:11 no what is sad is that the channel had to move Jan 05 03:02:29 <-- mjt_ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 03:03:47 <-- n2iko has quit ("leaving") Jan 05 03:05:11 * nachox wonders what did d3ity do this time Jan 05 03:05:33 <-- Straterra has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 03:06:01 gn8 Jan 05 03:06:08 <-- boerst has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 03:06:26 --> seberino__ (~seberino@seberino.spawar.navy.mil) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 03:07:03 is cyrus-imapd the easiest and best imap linux app? Jan 05 03:07:33 cyrus being the easiest? nope Jan 05 03:07:50 besides, slackware comes with uw imap already. that's the easiest to set up and use Jan 05 03:08:24 ananke: thanks! but wait! Jan 05 03:08:41 ananke: ru saying there isn't a imap brand that is best and easiest on all linux distros? Jan 05 03:08:55 ananke: is uw only on slack? Jan 05 03:09:14 * acidkill runs his update.sh script to rsync with inferno...thanks again ananke. =) Jan 05 03:09:28 i are do not comprende. can you learn how to spell 'are you'? Jan 05 03:09:53 haha, ananke Jan 05 03:10:05 <-- usr13 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 05 03:10:07 ananke: k Jan 05 03:10:08 acidkill : np Jan 05 03:10:14 ananke lays the smackdown Jan 05 03:10:26 ananke: cyrus looks scary...is uw a cul de sac technology? Jan 05 03:11:00 seberino, depends. uw imap works. it may not be the fastest or the best, but it surely works. besides, uw wrote the first imap server. they came up with that technology. Jan 05 03:11:03 --> Dominian (~dominian@dominian.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 03:12:21 --> dwolf (~unknown@dwolf.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 03:12:26 --> keidon (xavier@cuscon3023.tstt.net.tt) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 03:12:31 ananke: hmmmm, what are the most popular imap competitors to uw and cyrus? Jan 05 03:13:09 courier, and that's about it. cyrus is probably the most flexibile and the fastest one out there Jan 05 03:13:24 depends on how many users you have, with how much mail **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 5 03:14:01 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 6 00:01:13 2005 Jan 06 00:01:13 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 06 00:01:13 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support Channel - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | Jan 06 00:01:13 --- Topic for ##slackware set by phrag at Wed Jan 5 13:16:34 2005 Jan 06 00:01:14 -ChanServ- [##slackware] #slackware has moved to ##slackware to fit the freenode channel ownership policies a bit better. If you've been forwarded from #slackware, please "/part #slackware" so your client won't be confused! Jan 06 00:01:14 --- ##slackware :[freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup Jan 06 00:01:36 i was thinking, the memory stick gets /dev/sr0 and the zip gets /dev/sr1, regardless of the order in which they're inserted Jan 06 00:01:50 because I may not always have both plugged in Jan 06 00:02:13 it's a pain in the ass to have to su to root to mount the damn things, and if i had fstab entries I could specify the 'users' option for the zip drive and the usb stick and be a lot happier :) Jan 06 00:02:16 never took time to look into this - but I tried with two memory sticks and they of course changed device number depending on the order of inserting. Jan 06 00:02:26 but you can use a rule like Jan 06 00:02:56 /dev/sr0 /mnt/stick vfat user 0 0 Jan 06 00:03:09 --> ctg (~ctg@adsl-81-7-108-123.takas.lt) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:03:10 I think every user can now mount that. Jan 06 00:03:14 yeah Jan 06 00:03:23 but /dev/sr0 might not be the usb stick Jan 06 00:03:46 yes- this is suckyness of the whole emulation stuff, isn't it! Jan 06 00:03:48 as I might just be using the zip drive at the time Jan 06 00:03:58 what MIGHT be the better option Jan 06 00:04:00 is to go Jan 06 00:04:14 is the zip usb too? Jan 06 00:04:26 ( yes of course it is) Jan 06 00:04:26 yeah, self powered :) Jan 06 00:04:33 My ZIP is IDE, :P Jan 06 00:04:39 well, the zip on tuxpower is IDE too Jan 06 00:04:45 but this is my laptop Jan 06 00:04:52 --> spenser (~spenser@user-0c8hmse.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:04:57 (going to college starting tomorrow) Jan 06 00:04:57 ok, I don't know that much of the whole usb subsystem stuff, but can't you use something with alias in modules.conf Jan 06 00:04:58 no. Jan 06 00:05:08 /dev/sr0 /mnt/rsd1 vfat noauto,user 0 0 (removable storage drive 1) Jan 06 00:05:12 chris-^: cool where you going? Jan 06 00:05:14 /dev/sr1 /mnt/rsd2 vfat noauto,user 0 0 (removable storage drive 2) Jan 06 00:05:27 Alsa has some kind of interface for this for soundcars. maybe something similar can be done for usb Jan 06 00:05:29 and then regardless of which one gets plugged in first Jan 06 00:05:40 they both have fstab entries Jan 06 00:05:43 yes Jan 06 00:05:47 that's true Jan 06 00:05:52 XGizzmo: nowhere special; just the community college Jan 06 00:05:56 but you'll never know wich one is where what Jan 06 00:05:56 yes I will! Jan 06 00:06:01 if i plug the zip in firrst Jan 06 00:06:05 the zip gets /dev/sr0 Jan 06 00:06:07 yup. Jan 06 00:06:15 so I will know by the order in which I insert the devices Jan 06 00:06:27 I want to be able to see if it is my zip, and mount it on /mnt/zip, or my usb, and mount it on /mnt/stick Jan 06 00:06:42 We should have a hack so we can use winmodems as POS soundcards. Jan 06 00:06:47 yeah, me too... Jan 06 00:08:02 DarkTide: Slack 10.0 tries to use my AC'97 modem controller's speaker as /dev/dsp Jan 06 00:08:02 <-- Analyzer has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 06 00:08:02 so I can't use the modem on my laptop for this reason :P Jan 06 00:08:02 chris-^: Does it work? Jan 06 00:08:02 No Jan 06 00:08:02 --> W|GG-Laptop (~deez@ip68-98-179-238.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:08:02 :( Jan 06 00:08:02 That would be sweet. Jan 06 00:08:02 frankb: that's what I'm trying to do too.. but I'm not sure if it's possiblwe Jan 06 00:08:02 I guess that's too much to ask on linux Jan 06 00:08:02 --> Analyzer (~Analyzer@ts3-a233.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:08:08 heya Jan 06 00:08:08 I mean, theoretically, we should somehow be able to store the device ID's somewhere Jan 06 00:08:28 it all boils down to the emulation where you can't make up what is what anymore Jan 06 00:08:34 chris-^: /dev/dsp is a symbolic link you can change it Jan 06 00:08:41 and it would look at the device ID of an inserted device and go 'ok, this is Bus 003 Device 002: ID 059b:0033 Iomega Corp. -- that's a zip drive, we mount that on /mnt/zip Jan 06 00:08:41 etc Jan 06 00:08:52 XGizzmo: yeah, but it was trying to use the modem controller as a souncard :( Jan 06 00:08:52 cant you set all the devices in /etc/modules.conf? Jan 06 00:08:57 well, anyways, try to give drives fixed drive letters in windows - won't work with multiple usb mass storage devs either Jan 06 00:08:59 and just alias them all? Jan 06 00:09:05 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:09:11 SoulSurvivor: if that's possible, I'm not sure how to do it Jan 06 00:09:12 --> WarLocitO (~NowHere@cbl-sd-58-180.aster.com.do) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:09:14 --- W|GG-Laptop is now known as UnixFoo1 Jan 06 00:09:23 no, you cabn't Jan 06 00:09:26 ok Jan 06 00:09:26 just a thought Jan 06 00:09:32 I guess my way works as well as any.. Jan 06 00:09:38 but darnit Jan 06 00:09:40 <-- WarLocitO (~NowHere@cbl-sd-58-180.aster.com.do) has left ##slackware ("Parting") Jan 06 00:09:43 I can't remember how to mount my zip drive.. Jan 06 00:09:50 * chris-^ looks at tuxpower's fstab Jan 06 00:10:10 --> boow (~boow@dyn19-ter1-pittsburg.fament.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:10:17 oh no, after a few hours of konstruct it crapped out on me... Jan 06 00:10:20 <-- ctg (~ctg@adsl-81-7-108-123.takas.lt) has left ##slackware (":wq!") Jan 06 00:10:20 wait, that won't help me any, tuxpower has an IDE zip. it's simpler Jan 06 00:10:56 root@orbitaltux:/home/chris# mount /dev/sr0 /rstorage Jan 06 00:10:56 /dev/sr0: Invalid argument Jan 06 00:10:56 mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only Jan 06 00:10:56 wtf? Jan 06 00:10:56 <-- nixor has kicked chris-^ from ##slackware (flood) Jan 06 00:11:03 --> chris-^ (~chris@adsl-215-30-121.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:11:07 chris-^: good work Jan 06 00:11:12 thank you! :) Jan 06 00:11:16 =) Jan 06 00:11:43 this had better not be a write protected zip disk, I haven't been able to figure out how to change the protection bits in linux.. Jan 06 00:11:47 grrr! Jan 06 00:12:38 mount -t vfat /dev/sr0 /rstorage , and it's telling me it's a) write protected and b) that it's the wrong fstype Jan 06 00:12:42 <-- Squall` has quit (Client Quit) Jan 06 00:12:48 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:13:27 my zip drive had the click of death f iomega Jan 06 00:13:35 why the hell won't it mount :( Jan 06 00:13:45 o.o Jan 06 00:13:46 boow, my IBM HD has that Jan 06 00:13:51 okay... wierd... Jan 06 00:13:59 hrmph, is that considered bad language? Jan 06 00:14:08 eject /dev/sr0 makes my... OH Jan 06 00:14:08 < IDIOT Jan 06 00:14:10 true Jan 06 00:14:10 :P Jan 06 00:14:12 on my laptop /dev/sr0 is the cd-rom drive Jan 06 00:14:17 gee whiz :/ Jan 06 00:14:39 the zip would be /dev/sr1 Jan 06 00:14:39 well now they have usb pen drives now Jan 06 00:15:10 Yeah, I have one Jan 06 00:15:22 but we can't use them on the college machines Jan 06 00:15:26 but they all have zip250 drives Jan 06 00:16:01 <-- Straterra has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 06 00:16:14 --> Straterra_ (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:16:14 so, as I already posess about 120$ worth of media for the zip drive, the $40 investment on a self-powered USB Zip100 drive for my laptop was worth it Jan 06 00:16:14 i want to get me a usb harddrive Jan 06 00:16:23 --- Straterra_ is now known as Straterra Jan 06 00:16:36 o.O Jan 06 00:16:49 sr1 unknown device Jan 06 00:18:31 windows should be unix like lol Jan 06 00:19:30 <-- juice has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 06 00:20:15 --> freerock (~freerock@ool-44c0684c.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:20:26 <-- frankb has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 00:20:26 i wonder if my new modem will be delivered on time through snow storm Jan 06 00:21:41 --> juice (~juice@mo-65-41-197-57.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:22:39 if i have to pay for a modem driver might as well get a hardware modem cant use freebie with 2.6 kernel Jan 06 00:23:17 Winmodems blow Jan 06 00:23:20 Where can you still get hardware modems at? Jan 06 00:23:23 Aren't they more expensive, anyway? Jan 06 00:24:26 well on pricewatch i found one for 15 bucks best data 56sx-92 serial modem Jan 06 00:24:49 Serial modem? Jan 06 00:24:49 Why not get a PCI one?? Jan 06 00:25:02 <-- Lordrflctn has quit ("Killed (KrON (Requested by panasync))") Jan 06 00:25:15 most pcimodems are winmodems Jan 06 00:25:20 I know Jan 06 00:25:29 But you can still find PCI hardware modems Jan 06 00:26:12 Straterra, you can come back to #linuxforum now, Caveman only banned you temporarily because your client was parting and joining excessively while you weren't there Jan 06 00:26:23 Squall`, um..That's wasn't me then Jan 06 00:26:27 most ads never tell you if its controller based or not so i went with exertnal Jan 06 00:26:27 I didn't have a client open during the day at all Jan 06 00:26:28 --> Dario (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:26:30 hi everyone Jan 06 00:27:38 --> DarkTide_ (~main@dialup-4.156.105.146.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:27:40 i have unleashed another problem. Though far less serious. Yay. I'm using the on-board ac'97 sound card on my asus a7v880 motherboard. Sound works well in all apps except quake games. Quake1, 2, 3, ET, etc. Anyone heard of anything similar? Jan 06 00:28:04 Dario, I think they all use OSS Jan 06 00:28:13 <-- Drag0n has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 00:28:16 Straterra: really? Hmm. Jan 06 00:28:40 alsa-oss Jan 06 00:28:51 you could use the alsa-oss emulater Jan 06 00:28:51 ahhhhh Jan 06 00:28:51 ""lator Jan 06 00:28:51 that's what's not loaded Jan 06 00:28:51 hehe Jan 06 00:28:51 speaking of which Jan 06 00:28:51 lsmod doesn't show it, let me check. Jan 06 00:29:14 i still cant get my sound working Jan 06 00:29:26 slack should load the module Jan 06 00:29:26 no idea how 2.6 broke that Jan 06 00:29:26 damn! i think i left out oss Jan 06 00:29:26 emul. Jan 06 00:29:34 i remember compiling alsa Jan 06 00:29:34 hrm Jan 06 00:29:47 Redb3ard, becuse its in userland or something, I think Jan 06 00:30:11 stratterra, i have to compile something other than the kernel then? Jan 06 00:31:09 Straterra, i have all the oss options built in the kernel. I don't see anything else (except the depricated sound system) Jan 06 00:31:17 Redb3ard: did you pick your card in pci devices Jan 06 00:31:17 Dario, make them modules Jan 06 00:31:17 yeh Jan 06 00:31:17 modules instead of built in? Jan 06 00:31:17 ATI IXP or something like that Jan 06 00:31:17 --> snarf (~snarf@12-220-134-83.client.insightBB.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:31:31 Modules Jan 06 00:31:43 you have to include all the alsa stuff Jan 06 00:31:53 what is lindows called now? Jan 06 00:32:00 --> d3ity (1000@207.172.254.149) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:32:00 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@207.172.254.149 Jan 06 00:32:00 <-- nixor has kicked d3ity from ##slackware (banned: d3ity - perm ban - constant trolling) Jan 06 00:32:00 linspire Jan 06 00:32:00 --> Drag0n (~dragon@c-67-162-246-16.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:32:12 <-- granada has quit (Client Quit) Jan 06 00:32:26 ARGH, I can't figure out what /dev this zip drive is Jan 06 00:32:40 so module "oss mixer api" "oss pcm (digital audio api)? that's all i got. :p Jan 06 00:33:49 i just select all the alsa stuff as modules then pick my card in pci devices Jan 06 00:34:20 --> WhiteRabbit (~3am@whiterabbit.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:34:40 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 00:34:43 <-- vmhobbes_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 00:35:19 chris-^: it'l be in your dmesg Jan 06 00:35:19 for a usb device I plugged in? Jan 06 00:35:53 this intellimouse is driving me nuts Jan 06 00:36:51 chris-^: usb? plug it in and tail /var/log/messages Jan 06 00:36:51 aha Jan 06 00:36:51 thx Jan 06 00:36:51 thats cool to know Jan 06 00:37:01 --> Slack_Rox (~Slack_Rox@68.57.189.32) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:37:01 what'd d3ity get perm ban for? Jan 06 00:37:41 --> bsdevious (~bsd@67.15.82.39) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:37:41 --> Buggaboo (~jzz@ut-z-6021.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:37:51 hi Jan 06 00:37:51 hello Jan 06 00:37:59 does slackware have a backup tool of some sort? Jan 06 00:38:19 no Jan 06 00:38:52 tar Jan 06 00:38:52 tar! Jan 06 00:38:58 which all distros have :o) Jan 06 00:39:18 tar? Jan 06 00:39:18 somehow, i thought he meant some gui or something simpler Jan 06 00:39:18 hehe Jan 06 00:39:28 tar is an archiving thingy eh? Jan 06 00:39:32 dd, gzip, tar Jan 06 00:39:38 cpio Jan 06 00:39:41 tar = tape archive Jan 06 00:39:53 so the bottom-line is that I have to go write a bashcript to do that for me? Jan 06 00:39:53 tar -cvjf / --exclude /proc Jan 06 00:40:05 oops Jan 06 00:40:17 there are tons of them but tar is the most prevalent Jan 06 00:40:50 --> ptlo (~senko@cmung3096.cmu.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:41:00 --> Dominian (~dominian@dominian.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:41:00 --> ptolo (~senko@cmung3096.cmu.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:41:00 <-- ptolo has quit (Client Quit) Jan 06 00:41:00 yea search "backup" on freshmeat, should find lots of tools Jan 06 00:41:00 tar -cvjf backup.tar.bz2 / --exclude /proc Jan 06 00:41:00 Linux version 2.6.10 (root@Slackbox) (gcc version 3.3.4) #5 >>> lol, i did 2.6.6 about 14 times and 2.6.9 about 3 times. Jan 06 00:41:00 it depends on what you want to do...you can just run a command in a shell or script that command Jan 06 00:41:13 --> alexrait1 (~alexrait1@80.178.76.25.forward.012.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:41:13 hm, what does it mean to be the kind of woman the baker won't let near the bread? Jan 06 00:41:57 she's having her period at that time Jan 06 00:41:57 --> chris__ (~chris@adsl-11-160-248.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:41:57 a woman that burns shit up Jan 06 00:41:57 lol Jan 06 00:41:57 oh Jan 06 00:41:57 I don't think that works in the context :/ Jan 06 00:41:57 --- nixor removes ban on *!~root@* Jan 06 00:41:57 lol Jan 06 00:42:05 --> Xgates (~Xgates@xgates.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:42:14 never heard that one before Jan 06 00:42:29 her mom keeps calling her a slut and tells her to squeeze bread to see if it's fresh Jan 06 00:42:29 i've only heard "on the rag" Jan 06 00:42:43 at least it used to be like that in the old days, when a woman had her period, she wasn't allowed into the kitchen ... saw that on Globe Trekker - Discover once Jan 06 00:42:53 and the girl asks if the baker won't let her near it.. Jan 06 00:42:53 anyone got their ipod working with udev. I got it to make the /dev/ipod symlink once but it hasn't worked since Jan 06 00:42:53 icky Jan 06 00:43:34 * UnixFoo1 uses a creative zen xtra Jan 06 00:43:34 you know one day I'd really like a router that DOESN'T dump me on my ass when I open ports :) Jan 06 00:43:38 http://www.turksheadreview.com/library/kincaid-girl.html Jan 06 00:43:38 linux and girls dont mix Jan 06 00:43:38 sure they do Jan 06 00:43:38 speaking of ipods... i have one that needs to get fixed. I think the drive is broken. Jan 06 00:43:38 where I'm getting the bread thing Jan 06 00:43:38 lol Jan 06 00:43:47 boow: pft, we mix Jan 06 00:44:27 so why is this now ##slackware? Jan 06 00:44:28 i know a senior level IT person that happens to know more of *nix than most here Jan 06 00:44:28 freerock: darn FreeNode policy Jan 06 00:44:28 freerock, freenode guidelines dictated it Jan 06 00:44:33 chris-^: i just switched my wrt64g router to just a wap and put it behind my slack firewall, when it was my gateway i got 2 nastyyyy trojans Jan 06 00:44:49 --> Kurt (kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:44:56 most project-type channels will be the same way Jan 06 00:44:56 <-- chris__ (~chris@adsl-11-160-248.mia.bellsouth.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 06 00:45:07 what i ment is not alot of linux geeks have girlfriends Jan 06 00:45:07 ^wrt54g that is Jan 06 00:45:07 --> SuperGear (win2k3@c-24-9-154-178.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:45:07 ah, unofficial channels Jan 06 00:45:07 ah Jan 06 00:45:16 #linux went that way Jan 06 00:45:16 yeah Jan 06 00:45:25 * UnixFoo1 has a wrt54gs Jan 06 00:46:06 <-- Xgates has quit (Client Quit) Jan 06 00:46:18 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:46:18 <-- Sklet has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 06 00:46:18 yea i put ewrt on mine, but i didn't like it as my protection Jan 06 00:46:18 bought my mom a wrt54g for xmas Jan 06 00:46:18 UnixFoo1, buy me one Jan 06 00:46:18 lol Jan 06 00:46:18 <-- freerock has quit ("leaving") Jan 06 00:46:29 when you can spit me out of your vagina, i will Jan 06 00:46:39 UnixFoo1, == unixfool imposter? Jan 06 00:46:39 same Jan 06 00:46:39 lappy Jan 06 00:47:33 * UnixFoo1 IS unixfool :o) Jan 06 00:47:33 <-- Straterra has quit (Client Quit) Jan 06 00:47:33 <-- Dario has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 06 00:47:33 so shizzle Jan 06 00:47:33 fo shizzle Jan 06 00:47:33 my nizzle Jan 06 00:47:33 hahaha Jan 06 00:47:33 yeah, so = fo Jan 06 00:47:42 why did snoop need an umbrella? Jan 06 00:47:47 fo drizzle Jan 06 00:47:47 hehehe Jan 06 00:47:53 hahahaha Jan 06 00:47:53 what distro is closest to unix bsd Jan 06 00:48:00 slack Jan 06 00:49:06 that was easy. Next? Jan 06 00:49:09 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:49:27 <-- chris-^ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 06 00:49:43 UnixFoo1, if you pay for the vagina, then I gladly will for the WLAN card. :P Jan 06 00:49:51 ???? Jan 06 00:50:10 whats a vagina Jan 06 00:50:23 omfg Jan 06 00:50:23 boow, ..... Jan 06 00:50:23 goggle it Jan 06 00:50:23 lol Jan 06 00:50:23 UnixFoo1, LOL Jan 06 00:50:36 1,000,000 hits Jan 06 00:50:36 boow, google it at school. XD Jan 06 00:50:36 and a few pics Jan 06 00:50:49 sarcasm Jan 06 00:51:26 who knows, you could be from india and understand little english Jan 06 00:51:26 boow: RTFM Jan 06 00:51:26 lol Jan 06 00:51:43 boow: or just grab a random chick and remove what ever clothes they got on ... Jan 06 00:51:43 :P Jan 06 00:51:43 perhaps I should apply for the Jeopardy "Clue Crew"... Jan 06 00:51:51 UnixFoo1, that is why there is google pictures..because pictures of vaginas are universal. :P Jan 06 00:52:02 pants and panties will do, if you're only after her vagina Jan 06 00:52:14 tewmten: yeah Jan 06 00:52:20 or if she wears a skirt, just remove the panties Jan 06 00:52:21 <-- DarkTide has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 06 00:52:34 --- DarkTide_ is now known as DarkTide Jan 06 00:52:42 UnixFoo1, see what you started? :P Jan 06 00:52:51 i need to get out every know and then Jan 06 00:52:59 vagine and google are very alike Jan 06 00:53:10 just say the word, and everyone knows what you're talking about Jan 06 00:53:22 tewmten, yup Jan 06 00:53:22 hehe...wasn't me Jan 06 00:53:22 <-- Kurt has quit (Connection reset by peer) Jan 06 00:53:31 Even script kiddies can kinda relate to both of those words Jan 06 00:53:31 I mean vagina of course, not vagine Jan 06 00:53:31 mention vagina and the geeks wake the hell up Jan 06 00:53:41 http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid86/p49683207557f2c639af6dea93d4d68d3/faacf7b8.jpg Jan 06 00:53:41 hehe Jan 06 00:53:53 one badass truck Jan 06 00:53:53 UnixFoo1, you mentioned the WLAN card..that is what woke ME up Jan 06 00:53:53 truck? Jan 06 00:54:06 yeah Jan 06 00:54:06 UnixFoo1, I like my stepbrother's better Jan 06 00:54:06 I thought it was gonna be a pic of a vagina Jan 06 00:54:06 im not gonna try that link Jan 06 00:54:20 F350 with aftermarket turbo, V12 Diesel Jan 06 00:54:20 its a pic of a truck Jan 06 00:54:20 lol Jan 06 00:54:20 HUGE lift kit.. Jan 06 00:54:20 any news about volkerding? Jan 06 00:54:35 Convertable as hell inside too Jan 06 00:54:50 .google Jan 06 00:54:50 Sounds VERY nice Jan 06 00:54:50 oops Jan 06 00:54:50 andli: he is catching up on the updates Jan 06 00:54:50 UnixFoo1, that link of your truck you got? Jan 06 00:54:58 the dodge? Jan 06 00:54:58 Straterra, i'm not into lift kits Jan 06 00:54:58 Has "Eating dodges, shittin' chevy's" on the front liscence plate Jan 06 00:56:15 --> Kurt (~kmw@evvlinlwt-nas-03-s632.cinergycom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:56:15 my truck is high enough without one Jan 06 00:56:15 i guess win32 joke.exe's will not work on linux Jan 06 00:56:15 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagina Jan 06 00:56:15 vaaaagina Jan 06 00:56:15 --> Dario (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:56:15 buzzedlightyear, no, its someone's on the forums Jan 06 00:56:15 mine is here: Jan 06 00:56:15 hm, i still don't have sound in the quake games. Jan 06 00:56:15 tewmten: okej. Jan 06 00:56:15 UnixFoo1, ah..I want a truck but my parents said since it was rwd only and winter was coming, I couldn't have one Jan 06 00:56:15 http://wigglit.ath.cx/dodge Jan 06 00:56:15 tewmten, man vagina Jan 06 00:56:15 --> cSu|GuntherDW (1000@d51A4D5CA.kabel.telenet.be) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:56:15 heh you have a page for it 'eh? Jan 06 00:56:15 lol Jan 06 00:56:15 --> IronBob (~ironbob@adsl-208-191-166-220.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:56:15 http://wigglit.ath.cx/dodge/ Jan 06 00:56:15 buzzedlightyear: dude I don't wanna see a man with a vagina you sicko! Jan 06 00:56:15 buzzedlightyear, does it show switches and additional arguments? Jan 06 00:56:29 forgot the "/" on the end Jan 06 00:56:41 oooh Jan 06 00:56:41 i need to blacken out my tags Jan 06 00:56:41 :) Jan 06 00:56:41 it's red :) Jan 06 00:56:51 UnixFoo1: hehe Jan 06 00:57:13 UnixFoo1: mwhauuhaoihihi I see your license plate number, now I'm gonna hack it! ph34r!! Jan 06 00:57:21 ;D Jan 06 00:57:21 lol Jan 06 00:57:30 good luck...it has a firewall Jan 06 00:57:30 UnixFoo1, you would like my stepdad's dodge Jan 06 00:57:52 UnixFoo1, i see the 6 disc cd changer :-D Jan 06 00:58:21 gonna hack into your car, make it say "fo shizzle mah nizzle" everytime you turn on the radio Jan 06 00:58:21 --> trivthebofh (djtriv@24.66.136.244) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:58:21 i would lower mine but my wife would complain Jan 06 00:58:21 buzzedlightyear, lol Jan 06 00:58:28 It's a 2004 Ram 1500 with the 340 HP Hemi Jan 06 00:58:28 UnixFoo1: need some neons Jan 06 00:58:28 Only..its a limited edition Rumble Bee Jan 06 00:58:28 UnixFoo1, you'd seriously lower that? Jan 06 00:58:28 cool Jan 06 00:58:28 neons? Jan 06 00:58:28 Straterra, ooooooo!! Jan 06 00:58:28 my gmc is lowered :) Jan 06 00:58:28 those are badass Jan 06 00:58:28 yeah sure, put on some pink fluff also Jan 06 00:58:32 and a spoiler Jan 06 00:58:32 and some vinyls Jan 06 00:58:32 limited editions Jan 06 00:58:38 <-- alexrait1 has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041219]") Jan 06 00:58:53 Yellow with black stripes on the back. He put a hard cover on it and got the black stripe decals from Mopar and continued the stripes across the bed cover Jan 06 00:58:53 Queer rider for the straight guy Jan 06 00:58:53 erhm Jan 06 00:58:53 --> Xgates (~Xgates@xgates.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:58:53 ride* Jan 06 00:59:42 let's make it super! Jan 06 00:59:42 It's nice looking Jan 06 00:59:42 Spray in Bed liner.. Jan 06 00:59:43 but neons are so fugly Jan 06 00:59:43 <-- boow has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 00:59:43 No neons Jan 06 00:59:51 hilfe! Jan 06 00:59:51 :) Jan 06 01:00:09 i want to play enemy territories.. and finally my stuff doesn't crash but now ihave no sound in this game! why? i have AC'97 chip. Jan 06 01:00:09 <-- cSu|GuntherDW has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 06 01:00:21 I like chips Jan 06 01:00:27 i don't want to to much to it...maybe change the front grille, put sidebars on it, get the taillight protectors and a hard tonneau Jan 06 01:00:36 but now I have only cheese doodles Jan 06 01:00:46 too bad i don't have the 18" rims but i hear they suck in the snow Jan 06 01:01:05 i just got a tonneau cover for my truck Jan 06 01:01:17 i need some carper or liner in the back now Jan 06 01:01:17 UnixFoo1: ever heard of winter tires..? :) Jan 06 01:01:27 UnixFoo1, my stepdad's truck has the 20" on them Jan 06 01:01:27 He refuses to drive it in the winter Jan 06 01:01:44 He bought a wrecked Ford escort to drive in the winter..he keeps his baby in the garage all winter Jan 06 01:01:56 UnixFoo1, i'd get stuck in 1ft snow since mine is lowered, i cant put chains on either so i might be screwed this winder Jan 06 01:02:05 hehe Jan 06 01:02:05 driving ford escorts until it's wrecked Jan 06 01:02:05 yeah I've done that Jan 06 01:02:12 :D Jan 06 01:02:39 I'm getting me a new vehicle, my engine is on the verge of death Jan 06 01:02:50 --> Hobbes (Hobbes@line-a-210.dynamic-athome.inode.at) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:02:50 hello? Jan 06 01:02:50 been there, done that, hit a wall of snow Jan 06 01:02:50 Because it was wrecked, there are 0 seals with the windows..it leaks like mad when it rains Jan 06 01:02:50 client is acting quirky Jan 06 01:02:50 shaaaitee Jan 06 01:02:50 join #linuxdojo Jan 06 01:02:50 damn Jan 06 01:02:50 lol Jan 06 01:02:50 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 01:02:50 I'm buying my brother-in-law's old dodge dakota Jan 06 01:02:50 buzzedlightyear, damn Jan 06 01:02:56 UnixFoo1: nah, it's just a user malfunction :) Jan 06 01:03:20 only $450 Jan 06 01:03:20 checking kbb.com first :P Jan 06 01:03:20 that's what i mean, the 20s Jan 06 01:03:20 my dakota has a recallon it Jan 06 01:03:34 well, it's not really a dakota, I call it a dakota 'cause it's a dodge light truck Jan 06 01:03:39 but it's a Japanese import Jan 06 01:03:47 by Toyota Jan 06 01:03:50 yeah, both the dakotas and the durangos have that recall Jan 06 01:03:55 --> msamsing (1000@x1-6-00-0d-87-8b-56-1e.k502.webspeed.dk) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:04:33 yeap Jan 06 01:04:35 needs a clutch cable Jan 06 01:04:43 spanning 2000-2003 Jan 06 01:04:43 but that's it Jan 06 01:05:41 btw, speaking about vaginas Jan 06 01:05:52 "Some erotic performers, particularly in Asia, can use vaginal muscles for tricks, such as smoking or playing musical instruments." Jan 06 01:06:49 gotto love wikipedia :D Jan 06 01:06:49 tewmten: go to canada and you see that Jan 06 01:06:49 bla! Jan 06 01:07:35 Dominian: maybe I can just find that here in europe.. :) Jan 06 01:07:35 true Jan 06 01:08:03 <-- MadMartin (router@BSN-77-233-233.dsl.siol.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 06 01:08:49 lol this is crazy! why can't i just get things to work. All i need now is to get sound in quake3/et. i have the snd_pcm_oss module loaded and all! Jan 06 01:09:54 at least you're laffin Jan 06 01:10:22 out of insanity. Jan 06 01:10:49 if i put the soundblaster live card, it causes irq conflicts and crashes everything. Jan 06 01:10:50 wmacpi is ugly Jan 06 01:10:55 i need to make a new one Jan 06 01:12:45 22,000 packets captured by tcpdump in like 1 or 2 seconds is alot isnt it? Jan 06 01:13:25 --> jimmyd (~jimmyd@jackass.lairdnovak.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:13:31 --> Artimus (~jared@66-168-2-157.cli.wi.charter.com) has joined ##Slackware Jan 06 01:13:39 buzzed, thats quite a few yeh Jan 06 01:13:49 wonder what the deal is Jan 06 01:13:59 70 or 80 a second, in burst, isnt unusual on my small home network Jan 06 01:14:10 nah im on my work network Jan 06 01:14:10 and i think ive seen stuff that i guess was 200 a second Jan 06 01:14:30 <-- WhiteRabbit has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 01:14:57 Buggaboo buzzedlightyear Jan 06 01:15:09 buzzedlightyear, what eth card do you have and what switch ? Jan 06 01:16:11 unless you're sniffing the gateway to the internet... Jan 06 01:16:11 you shouldnt see much more Jan 06 01:16:11 assuming that its a switched network, isnt it? Jan 06 01:16:11 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:16:11 i've seen up to 400 a couple of times but that was when i was mirroring our proxy straight to ethereal Jan 06 01:16:11 this is just a node on the network Jan 06 01:16:11 smps, gigabit ethernet, mostly gigabit network Jan 06 01:16:20 UnixFoo1: 592,707 vehicles affected by that recall Jan 06 01:16:31 dell gigabit switches Jan 06 01:16:40 damn Jan 06 01:17:06 finally found the official recall Jan 06 01:17:06 Dell... Jan 06 01:17:17 now its only 4-5k packets in the 1-2 seconds Jan 06 01:17:32 lots of ppl have this problem with ac97 and quake games. Aparently those 2 don'g go together. Jan 06 01:17:50 Straterra, theyre doin the job Jan 06 01:18:49 buzzedlightyear, :/ Jan 06 01:18:49 via + ac97 + quake = quake - sound Jan 06 01:18:54 dell switches are nice Jan 06 01:18:54 Straterra, whats wrong with the dell switches??? Jan 06 01:18:54 buzzedlightyear, I don't care for the company much Jan 06 01:18:54 hp procurves are nice too Jan 06 01:18:54 doesnt make the switches bad Jan 06 01:18:54 Straterra: just because the company sucks doesn't mean their hardware does Jan 06 01:18:54 Dominian, I don't like the company because of mostly hardware stuff Jan 06 01:21:14 Straterra: well.. until you work a corporate job where you are forced to use standardized equipment.. you can live in your dream world :) Jan 06 01:21:14 Dominian, not a dream world..I use 1 example Jan 06 01:21:14 Won't matter to me. Jan 06 01:21:14 I hate HP, but their switches are very nice. Jan 06 01:21:14 yawn.. hellos ##slackware Jan 06 01:21:14 hi Jan 06 01:21:14 Dell used LG cd-rom drives that were known to be inferior just to save money..And that bit them in the ass with Mandrake 9.2 Jan 06 01:21:14 Straterra, im sure dell doesnt care much about cdroms compatibility in mandrake 9.2 Jan 06 01:21:14 Straterra: wasn't just dell that did that Jan 06 01:21:14 It was also ones sold in stores Jan 06 01:21:14 Dominian, nope..but Dell was a major one Jan 06 01:21:14 and it wasnt' the cdroms fault Jan 06 01:21:14 Dominian, Yeah it was Jan 06 01:21:14 they changed something in Mandrake that screwed it up Jan 06 01:21:24 <-- _marlon_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 06 01:21:37 It didn't have proper firmware protection or whatever Jan 06 01:21:48 uh huh ok Jan 06 01:22:01 bitching about it now solves nothing.. they fixed it with firmware updates Jan 06 01:22:13 Dominian, of course Jan 06 01:22:13 I'm not bitching about it..I am telling why I dislike Dell Jan 06 01:22:41 Also in the older Dells, I have noticed some weird propriatary Dell parts, like special RAM you had to get from Dell..kinda like the old Compaqs too Jan 06 01:22:51 Kinda why I dislike Compaqs too Jan 06 01:23:40 hehe well Jan 06 01:23:40 my dell inspirion 4000 works right out of box with slack 10 :) i'm happy! Jan 06 01:23:40 in the real world.. you don't have a choice what your company uses Jan 06 01:23:41 ok ok, so now the tip is to compile the sound support INTO the kernel. ok ok. Jan 06 01:23:41 fhobia, so does my dell laptop :-D Jan 06 01:23:45 :D Jan 06 01:23:45 buzzedlightyear: me three Jan 06 01:23:50 i think it depends what model you get...its kinda like lotto Jan 06 01:23:51 while i'm at it, why can't i get vesafb with my geforce fx 5500 Jan 06 01:23:52 ? Jan 06 01:23:57 cause our family has 2 dud dells :| Jan 06 01:24:04 Dominian, what model? Jan 06 01:24:20 inspiron 7500 Jan 06 01:24:43 --> avoca (~avoca@159.134.144.68) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:24:50 nice, mine worked flawlessly Jan 06 01:25:01 mine too Jan 06 01:25:04 they say IBM laptops work perfect with linux, which they prolly do, but so did my dell Jan 06 01:25:06 monitor broke off at one of the hinges though hee Jan 06 01:25:12 lol thats no good Jan 06 01:25:17 it still works Jan 06 01:25:19 --> assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:25:20 I just have to be careful Jan 06 01:25:21 get it fixed or warranty cover it? Jan 06 01:25:23 hey dude's Jan 06 01:25:32 buzzedlightyear: haha no.. this sucker is old Jan 06 01:25:38 buzzedlightyear: got it from work as a "gift" Jan 06 01:25:43 hah i was gonna say i dont recognize the 7500 model Jan 06 01:25:47 hehe Jan 06 01:27:19 Dominian, I understand you can't help what the company buys..I am just saying I would never buy one for school Jan 06 01:28:16 hey I'd rather have a Dell over an HP laptop Jan 06 01:28:32 i'd rather be sailing. Jan 06 01:28:33 and frankly Toshiba's are ranked some of the best consumer laptops on themarket Jan 06 01:28:47 i love my toshiba ;; integrates well with linux as well =) Jan 06 01:29:10 --> Kurt2 (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:29:27 dell has a board for linux support, that was surprising. Jan 06 01:29:28 :) Jan 06 01:29:32 --> milkmutt (~milkmutt@134.sin0102.sin.iprimus.net.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:29:35 Dominian, my mom has a HP laptop..the only grudge I hold against it is that it runs WinME Jan 06 01:30:03 hehe Jan 06 01:30:07 <-- mheath has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 06 01:30:13 the HP workstations are very nice though.. mobile workstations that is Jan 06 01:30:31 i can upgrade my dell laptop video which is awesome :) Jan 06 01:30:32 <-- Squall` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 01:30:35 I don't know about you, but i love Dell Optiplex GX280.. great system Jan 06 01:30:50 well when this thing dies.. Jan 06 01:30:54 kobs is the name of an icecream store in honduras. Jan 06 01:31:00 I'm gonna figure some way to use the LCD as a second monitor for my other PC hehe Jan 06 01:31:03 kobs, im on an optiplex right now Jan 06 01:31:11 --> flock (~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:31:13 buzzedlightyear: what model Jan 06 01:31:20 I still want an alienware laptop Jan 06 01:31:30 err.. not model Jan 06 01:31:31 gx280 :) Jan 06 01:31:31 specs Jan 06 01:31:39 * kobs just woke up Jan 06 01:32:21 kobs, P4 2.80ghz 512ram Jan 06 01:32:26 only downside is we have the one with intel integrated graphics Jan 06 01:32:45 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:32:47 yeah this one is integrated graphics Jan 06 01:32:49 --> mheath (~mheath@c-67-161-213-34.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:32:59 no reason to have huge graphics cards though for what they are designed for Jan 06 01:33:10 pci-express? Jan 06 01:33:13 it runs medal of honor awesome though, that doesnt say much though Jan 06 01:33:13 compiling kernels takes too long. Jan 06 01:33:19 kobs, not sure bout that one Jan 06 01:33:36 well..i think that might just be on the newer ones Jan 06 01:34:06 this is fairly new, smaller than the others too its nice Jan 06 01:34:42 kobs, just checked yes pci express Jan 06 01:34:53 http://jobopps.disa.mil/scripts/odbic.exe/dfas/joa_dfas.html Jan 06 01:34:55 buzzedlightyear, wanna trade with my P3 1ghz? :P Jan 06 01:35:01 Same ammount of ram Jan 06 01:35:09 And a hella-better video card. :D Jan 06 01:35:22 * kobs thinking about slipping a pci-express video card on next PO Jan 06 01:35:26 >:] Jan 06 01:35:36 kobs, bastard! You have pcix ? Jan 06 01:35:39 UnixFoo1: doesn't work Jan 06 01:35:45 damn Jan 06 01:35:52 its a unix position at DISA Jan 06 01:35:52 <-- quittt has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 06 01:35:59 bah Jan 06 01:36:01 Straterra, lol nah thanks i like my job Jan 06 01:36:03 no one would hire me for that anyway Jan 06 01:36:05 OK this is too weird, I'm looking at jobs and woudln't ya know it, I found one that says looking for an experienced RPG developer. The job code is MMRPG. I mean I KNOW it has to be an acrynym for some accounting type software, but its just freaky. Jan 06 01:36:09 pci-x is different than pci-e =P Jan 06 01:36:11 buzzedlightyear, :P Jan 06 01:36:14 Its SOOO close to looking like a game programming openning ;) Jan 06 01:36:15 starting $60k/yr Jan 06 01:36:16 Think they would fire you? Jan 06 01:36:44 ok, i'm going to test this now.. wish me luck. Jan 06 01:36:47 prettttty sure. lousy college student workin in IT tradin computers Jan 06 01:36:54 buzzedlightyear, he he Jan 06 01:36:55 UnixFoo1: I have a helluva time getting job as it is now Jan 06 01:37:07 Tell them it has a case fan and that makes up for the slower CPU Jan 06 01:37:17 UnixFoo1: only three years in the field... got my degree.. but just gott aget to that 5 year exp. mark Jan 06 01:37:20 <-- Dario has quit ("oh sh!t.") Jan 06 01:37:20 Not to mention I have thoroughly cleaned it Jan 06 01:38:05 Dominian, I'm getting my A+ cert soon Jan 06 01:38:07 yeah this one is brand new, prolly still spotless Jan 06 01:38:16 us IT guys get all the new nice computers first :) Jan 06 01:38:21 <-- blaze has quit () Jan 06 01:38:22 Straterra: Just an FYI.. A+ really doesn't have any weight to it anymore. Jan 06 01:38:27 Dominian, I know Jan 06 01:38:37 But the class was free, and my school is paying to take the test Jan 06 01:38:38 doesnt best buy require it Jan 06 01:38:38 :D Jan 06 01:38:40 get CCNP or CCIE and you'll have a job in no time Jan 06 01:38:43 for computer tech Jan 06 01:38:53 I would be stupid to pass it up.. Jan 06 01:39:02 BRB Jan 06 01:39:04 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 01:39:29 my school said that same thing about the A+ thing...they never got it for us. made us study all year for it and never got a chance to take the test Jan 06 01:39:32 bastards Jan 06 01:39:33 Dominian, i've only 2 yrs experience in IT and no degree and i'm on the low side of $50k/yr Jan 06 01:39:51 then again, i'm in a prime area Jan 06 01:39:56 UnixFoo1: not bad Jan 06 01:40:00 --> slowdude (~slowdude@cpe-24-242-18-60.elp.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:40:07 UnixFoo1: yeah.. yer in virginia aren't you? Jan 06 01:40:11 yeah Jan 06 01:40:16 --> vurte (~haluk@pD95F69A2.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:40:23 hehe the NEW silicone valley Jan 06 01:40:24 near DC Jan 06 01:40:48 unix skills are HIGHLY needed here Jan 06 01:41:01 most of the job postings are looking for unix admins Jan 06 01:41:22 in DC? Jan 06 01:41:22 * buzzedlightyear almost went to college in virginia Jan 06 01:41:24 and the biggest arena is network security Jan 06 01:41:36 slowdude, around DC...metro area Jan 06 01:41:38 --- Catcher_ is now known as Catcher Jan 06 01:41:49 UnixFoo1: I could do an entry level unix admin position Jan 06 01:41:49 UnixFoo1, you near lynchburg at all? Jan 06 01:41:50 that wouldn't be absolutely horrible Jan 06 01:42:00 anywhere within 30 miles of it Jan 06 01:42:14 UnixFoo1, yeah i almost went to liberty univ. there Jan 06 01:42:27 buzzedlightyear, thats sound of me...quite a ways, i think Jan 06 01:43:12 --> Papyrus (unique@202.155.89.215) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:43:20 Dominian, the real requirement would be being eligible for a security clearance Jan 06 01:43:41 hello slackers Jan 06 01:44:04 damn it Jan 06 01:44:16 hi UnixFoo1 =P Jan 06 01:44:16 phrag: ? Jan 06 01:44:20 heh Jan 06 01:44:23 hiya phrag Jan 06 01:45:03 hey phrag, buzzed, Dominian, others Jan 06 01:45:29 UnixFool: had one a while back - don't know if I could get another in today's environment Jan 06 01:45:37 <-- assd has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 06 01:45:37 [all] =) Jan 06 01:46:01 hey Squall` Jan 06 01:46:02 UnixFoo1: i'm eligible for a clearance Jan 06 01:46:11 UnixFoo1: I'm ex-military Jan 06 01:46:11 no record Jan 06 01:46:21 Dominian, where are you at now? Jan 06 01:46:21 UnixFoo1: Indiana Jan 06 01:46:27 india eh Jan 06 01:46:34 Dominion: so am I - it isn't automatic though, is it? Jan 06 01:46:34 how's the curry over there? Jan 06 01:46:34 Indiana != India Jan 06 01:46:38 oh Jan 06 01:46:41 you open-minded toward relocation? Jan 06 01:46:42 rofl Jan 06 01:46:46 *doh* Jan 06 01:46:54 slowdude: not really automatic but it helps Jan 06 01:46:56 * kobs gives tewmten a swift slap to the head Jan 06 01:46:59 UnixFoo1: I'm quite openminded Jan 06 01:47:04 howdy Jan 06 01:47:11 --> mystic0 (~mystic@adsl-216-101-25-242.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:47:27 almost took a job in michigan Jan 06 01:47:27 hell, i know the site i work at is hurting for help (northrop grumman) Jan 06 01:47:27 whay job Jan 06 01:47:27 --> moschi (~moschi@home-ppp3-183.colorado.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:47:27 will the latest release of slackware detect my intel SATA? Jan 06 01:47:28 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:47:31 --> assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:47:35 because the last time i tried it the kernel froze on hardware detection Jan 06 01:47:35 * tewmten pokes kobs in the eyes Jan 06 01:47:36 just wondering if things have changed Jan 06 01:47:38 Ha ha ha Jan 06 01:47:40 I am looking at this geek magazine.. Jan 06 01:47:50 monitoring IDS devices and network troubleshooting...shiftwork though...24/7 operations Jan 06 01:47:50 I'm having a trouble connectin to my local mysql server using php script function mysql_connect(). It returns "Client does not support authentication protocol requested by server; consider upgrading MySQL client" Where lies the problem? I'm running apache 1.3.33 with php with mysql support Jan 06 01:47:50 --> adapter (adapter@h00062564c8e9.ne.client2.attbi.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:48:00 UnixFoo1: I'm used to that Jan 06 01:48:03 Python interface unloaded Jan 06 01:48:03 Tcl interface unloaded **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 6 01:48:03 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 6 23:29:49 2005 Jan 06 23:29:49 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 06 23:29:49 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support Channel - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | Jan 06 23:29:49 --- Topic for ##slackware set by phrag at Wed Jan 5 13:16:34 2005 Jan 06 23:29:50 -ChanServ- [##slackware] #slackware has moved to ##slackware to fit the freenode channel ownership policies a bit better. If you've been forwarded from #slackware, please "/part #slackware" so your client won't be confused! Jan 06 23:29:50 --- ##slackware :[freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup Jan 06 23:29:57 y'all obviously don't know what you're talking about.... Jan 06 23:30:00 Straterra : boot menu or what ? Jan 06 23:30:07 shouldn't start saying Gentoo is crap until after you've tried it Jan 06 23:30:08 I'm talking about the "Bringing the network up....[ ]" thing Jan 06 23:30:10 It's green.. Jan 06 23:30:15 AthlonRob, exactly why I am trying it. Jan 06 23:30:21 I waited until I tried it 4 times to say that, give me credit Jan 06 23:30:22 --> crackerjack (1000@ip5452b530.speed.planet.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:30:25 Straterra : ooh... that one Jan 06 23:30:31 join /bash Jan 06 23:30:31 and you never noticed the boot sequence, Gore? Jan 06 23:30:39 sorry Jan 06 23:30:39 After 4 times and realising I have a Free BSD machine already I deleted it Jan 06 23:30:50 Straterra : it looks like RH boot thing Jan 06 23:30:51 Generally I hit the power button to turn it on and walk away Jan 06 23:31:04 Papyrus, I noticed that Mandrake had it too.. Jan 06 23:31:08 it's a simple utility that handles the colors Jan 06 23:31:12 a lot of distributions use it Jan 06 23:31:17 AthlonRob, yeah' Jan 06 23:31:20 there's no reason you couldn't graft it on to Slackware's init scripts Jan 06 23:31:23 I would LOVE to see my slack do that Jan 06 23:31:23 :D Jan 06 23:31:43 "start-stop-daemon" Jan 06 23:31:54 Gentoo just isn't for me. And why someone would wait 3 days for an install from sources that Free BSD does, FULL install, in 13 hours, is beyond me Jan 06 23:32:09 I did tests, My friend uses Gentoo and he took 3 days Jan 06 23:32:17 gore, I might use Gentoo on my P3 1ghz for gaming Jan 06 23:32:17 gore, you don't need to compile everything from scratch like that Jan 06 23:32:33 gore, It took me about 6 hours MAYBE to get a stage 3 system up Jan 06 23:32:40 So I did a full install of Free BSD 4.10, and then upgraded everything from sources by downloading all of it from the net and compiling it, and it took 13 hours Jan 06 23:32:40 I got it up and running in about 18 hours on my server... Jan 06 23:32:46 AthlonRob, do you know if Gentoo can use cedega? Jan 06 23:32:49 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:32:51 Straterra, it can Jan 06 23:33:01 AthlonRob, Oooooh? Jan 06 23:33:15 it'll require you to download it yourself, drop it in /usr/portage/distfiles and then it'll install it for you Jan 06 23:33:18 Emerge kind of upsets me because they come off like they invented the idea of doing that Jan 06 23:33:20 (and track that installation) Jan 06 23:33:29 <-- Silver has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 06 23:33:33 AthlonRob, download the source? Jan 06 23:33:33 Athlon you ever use Free BSD? Jan 06 23:33:38 Not the idea, gore, the implementation Jan 06 23:33:39 I'm not even sure you CAN get the source, can you? Jan 06 23:33:48 yeah, gore, several years ago... and I have shell on a friend's FBSD box Jan 06 23:34:04 Straterra, you used to be able to get most of the code (back when it was WineX) via CVS... I don't know about now Jan 06 23:34:12 pkgadd -r anything Jan 06 23:34:18 it is restricted iirc Jan 06 23:34:20 It grabs it form the net and installs it Jan 06 23:34:22 There is no ebuild for it since Transgaming asked them to remove the CVS grabbing script they had Jan 06 23:34:25 phrag, yeah Jan 06 23:34:34 You can get packages for your distro, but not the source Jan 06 23:34:39 --> rh0` (~rolando@205.241.35.189) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:34:53 slackpacks work well Jan 06 23:35:00 phrag, Do they? Jan 06 23:35:16 yes, used the ones from transgaming for years Jan 06 23:35:21 AthlonRob, this blows...3 out of 186 on this emerge Jan 06 23:35:38 what are you emerging, Straterra? Jan 06 23:35:45 AthlonRob, gnome. :D Jan 06 23:35:49 --> thubics (~thubi@med.pub.ro) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:35:51 oh Jan 06 23:35:52 Slackware is very similar to Free BSD, I've been doing tests on both for a Paper, lots of similarities, but not rip offs like Gentoo. But Slackware has a hell of a lot better hardware support. And the packaging system is different Jan 06 23:36:13 lol Jan 06 23:36:22 AthlonRob, I'm thinking I MIGHT go with IceWM instead of gnome just because of how long it will take to compile gnome on my P3 1ghz Jan 06 23:37:47 I love that. Gentoo is all fast but you can never tell when you try it on someone's box because they have like KDE or GNOMe compiling in the BG lol Jan 06 23:37:47 <-- mmu_man has quit ("Vision[0.9.6-0203]: i've been blurred!") Jan 06 23:37:47 I don't keep up to date with every updated package, myself Jan 06 23:37:47 not on my laptop, anyway Jan 06 23:37:47 and my server... well... it doesn't run X :-) Jan 06 23:37:47 <-- lannders has quit (Client Quit) Jan 06 23:37:47 AthlonRob, my server runs Slack, sooo Jan 06 23:37:47 I use Trustix and SUSE for servers Jan 06 23:37:47 gore: heh Jan 06 23:37:48 <-- thubics has quit (Client Quit) Jan 06 23:37:48 Three of my servers run Slack, one runs Gentoo Jan 06 23:37:48 Trustix doesn't even come with X on the CD Jan 06 23:37:48 the "play" server runs Gentoo Jan 06 23:38:31 Cancelled Gnome, here comes IceWM Jan 06 23:39:35 <-- [M4rk0] has quit ("I Use SimpleIRC v3.2 XP - Get This Script At http://www.mostarac.net") Jan 06 23:39:35 you could use Gnome without compiling for 24 hours if you had Slackware, Or SUSE, or .... Anything else Jan 06 23:39:43 --> vanda (vanda@p5088FC85.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:39:45 gore, I'm trying a new distro, ok? Jan 06 23:39:48 --> DarkTide (~main@dialup-4.156.99.152.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:39:51 Didn't say I am gonna stay with it Jan 06 23:39:57 uhhh.... You don't need my permission Jan 06 23:40:07 After I get done with gentoo, I'm gonna try Debian, SuSe and Red Hat Jan 06 23:40:22 <-- ve1drg has quit ("leaving") Jan 06 23:40:27 With Debian, go for Libranet, it's pretty much the same but some way better tools Jan 06 23:40:52 <-- UQlev (~yuriy@ykulyev.logos.cy.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 06 23:41:27 One thing I was upset with was the fact that vi doesn't come with Gentoo.. Jan 06 23:41:31 --> MAN_Hater (~Too_Rude@adsl-69-151-255-143.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:41:42 Another reason I hate it Jan 06 23:41:47 "vi doesn't come with Gentoo" ??? Jan 06 23:41:50 emerge elvis Jan 06 23:41:51 Wairt Jan 06 23:41:52 wow that is insane not to incluce vi Jan 06 23:41:54 emerge vim Jan 06 23:41:55 AthlonRob, I know. :D Jan 06 23:42:03 But for the installation, I had to use nano..ugh Jan 06 23:42:15 ohhh Jan 06 23:42:16 Oh that is crap Jan 06 23:42:18 loves seeing slackware in powerfull projects : http://usermodelinux.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=140 Jan 06 23:42:27 for the three files you have to edit? Jan 06 23:42:33 AthlonRob, yeah Jan 06 23:42:34 :P Jan 06 23:42:43 <-- Papyrus has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 06 23:43:10 Things you shouldn't need to do anyway during install Jan 06 23:43:21 afk Jan 06 23:43:23 --> _ReNz0r` (objorkum@ti411110a080-0289.bb.online.no) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:43:23 MAN_Hater, WTF is that project? Jan 06 23:43:30 I am looking at the page..but confused Jan 06 23:43:44 Argh, why do they need to bundle games with graphicscards ... so annoying Jan 06 23:43:50 --> fidow (~root@201.3.191.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:43:50 something called (shrug) user mose linux (it has a sourceforge site also - Jan 06 23:43:50 --- nixor sets ban on *!~root@* Jan 06 23:43:51 <-- nixor has kicked fidow from ##slackware (banned: It is very dangerous to IRC as root. Please return under a user account.) Jan 06 23:43:54 --> Papyrus (unique@202.155.89.206) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:44:06 lol I did that once Jan 06 23:44:20 I was doing admin on my LAN and forgot I was root and loaded Irssi Jan 06 23:44:21 * MAN_Hater nutterz cuz it was powered by slackware now it met debbie Jan 06 23:44:56 gore, I run as r00t 14/7 Jan 06 23:45:07 24/7 Jan 06 23:45:19 Why? Jan 06 23:45:21 Straterra : root or r00t ? Jan 06 23:45:28 Papyrus, nice catch Jan 06 23:45:28 UID 0? Jan 06 23:45:29 :P Jan 06 23:45:31 Whois me Jan 06 23:45:32 :D Jan 06 23:45:41 Can't, have to go eat Jan 06 23:45:48 I'm STILL awake Jan 06 23:45:54 I can stay up longer than NT Jan 06 23:45:54 Straterra : :) Jan 06 23:46:15 Papyrus, and the real stickler..I am in Windows. XD Jan 06 23:46:37 Straterra : :D Jan 06 23:46:41 xo - heheh VVIndowz cauzes typoes Jan 06 23:46:53 Straterra : heh, yeah i use windows too Jan 06 23:47:47 Mwe too Jan 06 23:47:53 hmm....RAM heat spreader.... Jan 06 23:47:54 In the spring I open them Jan 06 23:48:15 <-- Lurkan has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 06 23:48:27 gore : i see you love "windows" experience Jan 06 23:48:31 Papyrus, Yeah..I have seen RAM water blocks Jan 06 23:48:42 --> Lurkan (~Lurkan@201.135.159.181) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:48:57 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 23:49:13 gee... this cooling business is too much i think Jan 06 23:49:14 * theron779 uses Whoppix Jan 06 23:49:25 maybe someday your box will run underwater as well Jan 06 23:49:33 :) Jan 06 23:49:55 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:49:58 or perhaps someday you need some water cooling for yourself too Jan 06 23:50:10 Hmmm? Jan 06 23:50:12 :P Jan 06 23:50:25 Straterra : this cooling business is too much i think Jan 06 23:50:30 <-- zomtec has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 06 23:50:39 anyone here named shilo on linux questions ? Jan 06 23:50:41 Papyrus, it depends on how much you invest in your machine Jan 06 23:50:55 --> assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:51:01 * MAN_Hater thinks mini aircondictioners will be next Jan 06 23:51:05 <-- ReNz0r` has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 06 23:51:12 Straterra : yes. but i prefer using good HSF for my GPU and CPU. heat spreader is enough for my RAM. Jan 06 23:51:59 BBIAS Jan 06 23:52:04 --> thubi52 (~thubi@med.pub.ro) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:52:06 <-- Straterra has quit (Client Quit) Jan 06 23:52:58 <-- rh0` has quit ("Abandonando") Jan 06 23:53:12 --> ICeSToRM (~menot@VA1-1D-u-0647.mc.onolab.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:54:37 --> [M4rk0] (~sIRC@212.247.71.242) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:54:43 <[M4rk0]> my ladies yo again :) Jan 06 23:54:45 <[M4rk0]> phrag man Jan 06 23:54:57 <[M4rk0]> look this protftpd.conf Jan 06 23:54:57 <[M4rk0]> # Umask 022 is a good standard umask to prevent new dirs and files Jan 06 23:54:57 <[M4rk0]> # from being group and world writable. Jan 06 23:54:57 <[M4rk0]> Umask 022 Jan 06 23:54:57 <-- nixor has kicked [M4rk0] from ##slackware (flood) Jan 06 23:54:57 --> [M4rk0] (~sIRC@212.247.71.242) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:55:01 <[M4rk0]> Umask 022 Jan 06 23:55:03 * MAN_Hater hidez my Yo_Yo Jan 06 23:55:10 <[M4rk0]> and Jan 06 23:55:18 <[M4rk0]> this comment is shitty Jan 06 23:55:28 <[M4rk0]> i can surf trought dirs Jan 06 23:55:44 i do not know whom "your ladies" are, but i would imagine they were not here Jan 06 23:55:57 [M4rk0], you didnt read man pages of proftpd good Jan 06 23:56:00 I think [M4rk0] is strange Jan 06 23:56:09 or all docu... Jan 06 23:56:24 * MAN_Hater is glad phrag has a lady named nixor (hiding after this comment) Jan 06 23:57:57 <[M4rk0]> phrag: man ladies Jan 06 23:57:57 hi there Jan 06 23:57:57 <[M4rk0]> smps i read comment in proftd.conf and umask 022 is to prevent files from world Jan 06 23:57:57 --- _ReNz0r` is now known as ReNz0r` Jan 06 23:57:57 <[M4rk0]> what umod i should set Jan 06 23:57:57 anyone have compiled succsessflully slylpheed 1.0.0 in -current? Jan 06 23:57:57 <-- ncawgneato has quit () Jan 06 23:59:32 [M4rk0], you schould then read in docs what does "DefaultRoot" in proftpd.conf can do Jan 06 23:59:59 [W4rk0] here catch - this may help you in that adventure http://www.sastk.org/ Jan 07 00:00:23 <[M4rk0]> MAN_Hater talk for me about this MAN Jan 07 00:00:25 <-- dwolf has quit ("Leaving") Jan 07 00:00:47 <[M4rk0]> MAN_Hater tnx anyway :) Jan 07 00:01:05 [W4rk0] others have done what you seek - yet it get complicated - the url I sent you is a more secure slack Jan 07 00:01:19 <[M4rk0]> ok Jan 07 00:01:28 (I mean it has a few tweaks in it - stating "more secure " is not true statement - but Jan 07 00:01:45 it is a good study Jan 07 00:01:55 <[M4rk0]> ok Jan 07 00:02:02 it is old tho Jan 07 00:02:06 --> LMNO (~phase1@wbar8.sea1-4-4-088-023.sea1.dsl-verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:02:12 <[M4rk0]> i love slack man it's the best distro out there ;) Jan 07 00:02:56 [M4rk0] : right on Jan 07 00:03:57 <-- liberviscom has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 07 00:04:21 need help fixing disk partition table Jan 07 00:04:52 I have 2 partition when looking at them with cfdisk Jan 07 00:04:53 eh why doesn't anyone have an easy answer to what {W4rk0] seeks ? isn't it reasobale to want a user to only have access to a home dir ? (I mean I understand it there is more to this - but isn't there a doc somewhere or a url ? Jan 07 00:05:12 one ntfs the other linux Jan 07 00:05:30 <[M4rk0]> thanx everybody Jan 07 00:05:37 the problem is I have a block on my ntfs partition hdd6 Jan 07 00:05:37 <[M4rk0]> MAN_Hater i found it Jan 07 00:05:38 <[M4rk0]> DefaultRoot ~ users,!staff Jan 07 00:05:40 how can I fix Jan 07 00:05:56 --> CSRx (~mlehman0@24.115.33.102.res-cmts.brd.ptd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:06:19 [W4rk0] write short doc for the next person please Jan 07 00:06:29 [M4rk0], DefaultRoot ~/public_html users Jan 07 00:06:51 [M4rk0], and read docs Jan 07 00:07:00 <[M4rk0]> MAN_Hater you're my man why should this exists if every answer is man this man that Jan 07 00:07:14 haha Jan 07 00:07:28 <[M4rk0]> smps what i need to read 1 hour doc to find one line you can write for 5 sec Jan 07 00:07:30 heh Jan 07 00:07:40 ? Jan 07 00:07:54 how do I fix a wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd6 Jan 07 00:08:02 --> burn|mac (~burn@adsl-218-162-9.jax.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:08:05 * MAN_Hater {w4rk0] now now - you know the other answer is always "spyware" (wait thats for msvvindows Jan 07 00:08:22 <[M4rk0]> hahha Jan 07 00:08:24 <[M4rk0]> :) Jan 07 00:08:28 <[M4rk0]> -lol Jan 07 00:08:29 --- theron779 is now known as bah_ Jan 07 00:08:39 how do you find out if any ports are being forwarded to you if you don't have access to your router? Jan 07 00:08:39 mount -o ro,remount / should remount my mounted / filesystem as read only yes? Jan 07 00:08:43 --- bah_ is now known as theron779 Jan 07 00:09:10 <[M4rk0]> CSRx you'll find answer here: man router Jan 07 00:09:12 <[M4rk0]> hahaha Jan 07 00:09:29 --> JackaLX (~steve@JackaLX.project-lead.eicq) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:09:35 hmmm i doubt that Jan 07 00:09:39 LWNO hdd6 ? Jan 07 00:09:44 <[M4rk0]> see ya people Jan 07 00:09:47 k Jan 07 00:09:48 <[M4rk0]> MAN_Hater you're the man! Jan 07 00:09:49 how do I fix a wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd6 Jan 07 00:09:53 <[M4rk0]> see ya soon ;) Jan 07 00:09:59 <-- [M4rk0] has quit ("I'm simple, you can be too but only if you have SimpleIRC v3.2 XP") Jan 07 00:10:16 --> skubee (1000@c-24-21-137-201.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:10:23 LMNO : you have Hard Drive on secondary slave ? Jan 07 00:10:26 <-- thubi52 has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 07 00:10:33 yes Jan 07 00:10:39 <-- Soptecpe has quit ("Abandonando") Jan 07 00:10:43 <-- JackaLX has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 07 00:10:48 [M4rk0], because you need lot more to configure ......... Jan 07 00:11:01 everything was fine till I tried to partion the free space for a nix partition Jan 07 00:11:03 --> prayforwind (~prayforwi@HSE-Toronto-ppp304348.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:11:05 * MAN_Hater learned about 6s last month Jan 07 00:11:11 --> Slack_Rox (~Slack_Rox@pcp0010004482pcs.centrl01.va.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:11:17 <-- prayforwind has quit (Client Quit) Jan 07 00:11:23 heh Jan 07 00:11:36 --> JackaLX (~steve@JackaLX.project-lead.eicq) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:11:48 --> smoke_ (~smoke@64.140.93.2) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:11:52 bah Jan 07 00:11:57 whats a good hex editor for x? Jan 07 00:12:07 can some one help plz Jan 07 00:12:17 <-- CSRx has quit () Jan 07 00:12:18 --> Dominian (~dominian@dominian.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:12:43 ... Jan 07 00:14:00 LMMNo- ok here goes but these terms are not correct Jan 07 00:14:08 --> fourdeb (~theron@168-103-166-70.tukw.qwest.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:14:15 ok Jan 07 00:14:16 * mheath returns Jan 07 00:14:29 smoke_, if you use gnome (or have GTK...) I think theres a program called ghex Jan 07 00:14:46 you see - you can only have 4 parttions in nix - so you can have like extended or logigal parttions after that ****they start at number 6 Jan 07 00:14:52 --> ph0enix (~phoenix@201-003-142-005.nhoce7005.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:14:58 mheath, thanks Jan 07 00:15:14 hdd means you are on the second cable second drive (guessing here Jan 07 00:15:24 thats right Jan 07 00:15:31 so what does that mean Jan 07 00:15:38 hi how can i say to slackware do dont load httpd on start? Jan 07 00:15:54 JoanBaez, chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd Jan 07 00:16:01 <-- assd has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 07 00:16:13 mheath thanks a lot! Jan 07 00:16:17 +x Jan 07 00:16:21 so the main question is - did you accidently create hdd6 or on purpose (I mean - how many parttions (hda1 hda2 hdc3 do you have - and how many do you want ? Jan 07 00:16:22 oops Jan 07 00:17:06 <-- DarkTide has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 07 00:17:14 --> boow (~boow@dyn46-ter1-pittsburg.fament.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:17:32 MAN_Hater:no I made a new linux partition and by doing so my windows partition on the disk became hdd6 instead of hdd5 which is what it originally was Jan 07 00:18:18 --> sinope (1000@bur-jud-175-061.rh.uchicago.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:18:35 NOTE:now the new partition now acts as both the old hdd5 and hdd6 but functions at the size set for hdd6 Jan 07 00:18:47 <-- Dominian has quit ("I AM a geek! What's your excuse?") Jan 07 00:18:53 ehh - does MS parts get shoved - can someone answer that for me Jan 07 00:19:10 whats the deal with reiser4 it hard to convert my existing slackfs to reiser4 Jan 07 00:19:21 yes Jan 07 00:19:25 <-- juice has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 07 00:19:36 boow, theres no conversion tools... Jan 07 00:19:54 heh Jan 07 00:19:57 So if you want to use Reiser4, you'll have to copy everything elsewhere, format with reiser4, and copy your files back. Jan 07 00:20:05 --> vmhobbes (vmhobbes@ipdial-186-145.tri-isys.com) has joined ##Slackware Jan 07 00:20:07 hmmm id have to reformat kernel patch and all that Jan 07 00:20:14 Yeah Jan 07 00:20:18 should I try messing with fstab by adding both hdd5 and hdd6 to it Jan 07 00:20:23 And reiser4 support only comes in the -mm patchset Jan 07 00:20:25 fred87_ wuz that fer me (grin Jan 07 00:20:39 I just cant loose this data Jan 07 00:20:47 If you patch your kernel against -mm, you'll also be getting a lot of REALLY experimental stuff Jan 07 00:20:59 oh well if it aint broke i wont fix it Jan 07 00:21:09 strange. Jan 07 00:21:15 why the switch to ##slack? Jan 07 00:21:45 MAN_Hater:U have any ideas or suggestions Jan 07 00:21:50 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:21:51 --> juice (~juice@mo-65-41-197-57.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:22:09 is pat gonna add reiser4 to slack Jan 07 00:22:16 LMN0 - ehh so cfdisk shows hdd5 is now hdd6 ? (thats odd - what does fdisk -l <-- thats a lower case L ) show Jan 07 00:22:35 <-- fred87_ has quit ("BitchX: faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive") Jan 07 00:22:58 LMN0 - iwould suggest (back tha damn data up now Jan 07 00:23:21 Can someone explain this to me? Jan 07 00:23:21 d/binutils-2.15.92.0.2-i486-2.tgz: Upgraded to ksymoops-2.4.10. Jan 07 00:23:21 Tried the newer binutils, but it couldn't compile ksymoops due to missing Jan 07 00:23:21 symbols in libbfd.so we'll stick with 2.15.92.0.2 for now... Jan 07 00:23:21 <-- nixor has kicked Straterra from ##slackware (flood) Jan 07 00:23:21 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:23:21 it shows the same thing Jan 07 00:23:25 ok then it is there on that hddx Jan 07 00:23:38 yeah but why can I mount it Jan 07 00:23:42 mount it and back it up Jan 07 00:23:48 --> dwolf (~unknown@dwolf.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:23:50 I would but I cant Jan 07 00:23:50 -oh - I missed that sorry Jan 07 00:24:05 --> nomasteryoda (~nomastery@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:24:11 k so you want to mont which parttion Jan 07 00:24:21 LMNO : you want to access hdd6 which is ntfs ? Jan 07 00:24:21 --> SlyFerret (1000@dhcp26133251.columbus.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:24:26 # /dev/hdd6 Jan 07 00:24:28 type the command you are using Jan 07 00:24:42 #mount /dev/hdd6 Jan 07 00:24:52 * MAN_Hater scrolls back to find what hdd6 is Jan 07 00:25:01 hdd6 is ntfs Jan 07 00:25:23 LMNO : you have ntfs support on kernel ? Jan 07 00:25:26 <-- Straterra has quit (Client Quit) Jan 07 00:25:28 yes Jan 07 00:25:33 <-- boow has quit ("Leaving") Jan 07 00:25:37 nah it should be something like mount dev/hdd6 -t ntfs /mnt/hdd6 Jan 07 00:25:38 all other are working and this one was aswell Jan 07 00:25:42 until now Jan 07 00:26:10 or whatever the correct -type is for ntfs Jan 07 00:26:21 mount: mount point /mnt/hdd6 does not exist Jan 07 00:26:31 what type of BS is this Jan 07 00:26:37 normal Jan 07 00:26:48 LMNO : have you reboot after doing cfdisk ? Jan 07 00:27:09 hi :) Jan 07 00:27:09 just either use an empty one that it is there or make one (it's a dir basicially (I cheat and use mc Jan 07 00:27:11 yes but I I yet to format the linux partition could that be it? Jan 07 00:27:23 welcome back fred87 Jan 07 00:27:43 Papyrus:yes but I I yet to format the linux partition could that be it? Jan 07 00:28:39 huh ? Jan 07 00:28:40 time to upload the day's work :| Jan 07 00:29:03 LMNO: ready heres the scoop (ok in /mnt you have floppy hda and so on and so forth - you can add a device ( a dir ) to the dir /mnt (example slackware comes with /mnt/floppy (but not /mnt/hdd6 Jan 07 00:29:28 * MAN_Hater hopes it comes with /mnt/floppy cuz mine did Jan 07 00:29:58 so your telling me to add the the mount point hdd6 how do I do this Jan 07 00:30:19 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:30:23 mkdir /mnt/hdd6 Jan 07 00:30:43 it the /mnt/hdd6 is not there - when you type "mount /dev/hdd6 (type of parttion here ) -t nfs /mnt/hdd6 <-- becuase you entered this it will look for hdd6 as what we call a mount point Jan 07 00:31:04 * MAN_Hater not we but the damn docs and how tos Jan 07 00:31:57 LWNO yes what papyrus said "mkdir /mnt/hdd6 Jan 07 00:32:09 ok done Jan 07 00:32:22 must I do the next part with the ntfs in the command or no Jan 07 00:32:24 Hard to mount to a directory that doesn't exist Jan 07 00:32:25 :P Jan 07 00:32:28 (does not know the -t for ntfs Jan 07 00:32:39 MAN_Hater, its ntfs Jan 07 00:32:42 -t ntfs Jan 07 00:33:05 Well, thats for the kernel read-only module, IIRC Jan 07 00:33:10 yet the command would be something like mount /dev/hdd6 -t ntfs /mnt/hdd6 Jan 07 00:33:14 Not sure what the third party/safe NTFS one is Jan 07 00:33:26 should I use this command to mount the dir: mount dev/hdd6 -t ntfs /mnt/hdd6 Jan 07 00:33:31 MAN_Hater, yeah..unless he makes an entry into fstab Jan 07 00:33:31 * MAN_Hater or you could cheat and use the slax cd - but thats a whole diff subject - lol Jan 07 00:33:35 LMNO, try it Jan 07 00:33:46 ok one sec Jan 07 00:33:49 And it's /dev/hdd6 Jan 07 00:33:53 Not dev/hdd6 Jan 07 00:34:04 oops it is - I blew the command Jan 07 00:34:07 mount: special device dev/hdd6 does not exist Jan 07 00:34:14 <-- AthlonRob has quit ("Leaving") Jan 07 00:34:22 LMNO, read what I said Jan 07 00:34:25 anyone know something which can do an "intelligent" sync over ftp? Jan 07 00:34:33 fred87, I think wget can Jan 07 00:34:34 :/ Jan 07 00:34:36 rsync Jan 07 00:34:36 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd6, Jan 07 00:34:36 or too many mounted file systems Jan 07 00:34:49 fred87: lftp or rsync Jan 07 00:34:53 LMNO, do you have NTFS compiled into your kernel? Jan 07 00:34:59 yes Jan 07 00:35:04 Straterra where were you before I typed all this and s/he asked about "can I just add a line in fstab ? (grin Jan 07 00:35:11 :P Jan 07 00:35:18 I have 2 other NTFS partitions up and working Jan 07 00:35:22 <-- rdl has quit ("Leaving") Jan 07 00:35:29 <-- dwolf has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 07 00:35:33 --> dwolf_ (~unknown@dwolf.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:35:35 LMNO, then..use what you did to get those working? Jan 07 00:35:36 :P Jan 07 00:35:43 --> AthlonRob (~rob@65.182.230.24) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:35:55 elijah_b, cool didn't know rsync could ftp Jan 07 00:35:55 I did nothing I just installed Jan 07 00:36:02 LMNO, LoL Jan 07 00:36:06 Look in /etc/fstab Jan 07 00:36:11 ok Jan 07 00:36:12 Straterra LMNO stated hdd5 moved to HDD6 (is this possible Jan 07 00:36:14 And use your other NTFS lines as a guide Jan 07 00:36:24 MAN_Hater, if you use udev, I guess it could Jan 07 00:36:39 Also, hdd5 and 6 are logical, iirc Jan 07 00:36:46 * MAN_Hater mublez I am starting to dislike this udev stuff Jan 07 00:37:08 udev is a POS, IMHO Jan 07 00:37:14 yes, it is logical Jan 07 00:37:14 MAN_Hater : udev is cool Jan 07 00:37:14 MAN_Hater : a little betta than devfs i think Jan 07 00:37:18 Straterra : POS ? Jan 07 00:37:21 ooh Jan 07 00:37:26 i get it Jan 07 00:37:32 :) Jan 07 00:37:35 --> Analyzer__ (~Analyzer@ts3-a208.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:37:46 Papyrus (but I like to write on skins instead of paper also (hehe just kidding Jan 07 00:37:54 --> assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:38:03 get this hdd6 is in my fstab and is set exactlly as my other NTFS partitions Jan 07 00:38:12 what now? Jan 07 00:38:15 udev can help you get rid all those many nasty block dev on /dev Jan 07 00:38:16 <-- got it Jan 07 00:38:39 LMNO, try "mount /mnt/hdd6" Jan 07 00:39:07 <-- Slack_Rox has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 07 00:39:12 mount: can't find /mnt/hdd6 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab Jan 07 00:39:30 Then you didn't modify your /etc/fstab correctly Jan 07 00:39:44 post an example Jan 07 00:39:52 Post the line you have Jan 07 00:39:55 # /dev/hdd6 /ntfs-c ntfs ro 1 0 Jan 07 00:40:01 post an )correctly)example Jan 07 00:40:09 LMNO... Jan 07 00:40:16 yes Jan 07 00:40:17 Change ntfs-c to /mnt/hdd6 Jan 07 00:40:25 And uncomment it, LoL Jan 07 00:40:39 its commented so I can post it here Jan 07 00:40:47 yes that # mean overlook this commandline Jan 07 00:40:51 Ah, ok Jan 07 00:40:55 MAN_Hater, CUPS did found /dev/lp0 Jan 07 00:41:01 But make the change, save and try the command again Jan 07 00:41:15 waves a happy wave to analyzer - hey there and welcome back Jan 07 00:41:39 Analyzer__: so you are printing now ? Jan 07 00:41:51 * Papyrus waves to MAN_Hater so he can pipe it too Analyzer__ Jan 07 00:41:59 MAN_Hater, yes Jan 07 00:42:13 kewlnes Jan 07 00:42:31 --> Kurt2 (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:42:41 * MAN_Hater eyes Papyrus's pipe Jan 07 00:42:53 one sec brb Jan 07 00:43:11 * Papyrus disconnecting the pipe Jan 07 00:43:11 <-- LMNO (~phase1@wbar8.sea1-4-4-088-023.sea1.dsl-verizon.net) has left ##slackware Jan 07 00:43:11 MAN_Hater, i have to restart CUPS daemon and cupsd see LPT port:) Jan 07 00:43:11 <-- sinope has quit ("w00t") Jan 07 00:43:35 --> chris26 (~chris@roc-66-66-60-179.rochester.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:43:51 hi all Jan 07 00:44:00 Analyzer__: humm ask someone here - that seems an easy fix somehow Jan 07 00:44:00 This sucks..I am in a "boil water" county..City is telling everyone in the area to boil the water before drinking it Jan 07 00:44:07 updated kde, put in a new kernel, and now xine wont play dvd's fo rme Jan 07 00:44:23 --> newbiee (~knoppix@85.96.96.21) has joined ##slackware **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jan 7 00:44:56 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 7 23:28:45 2005 Jan 07 23:28:45 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 07 23:28:46 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support Channel - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | Jan 07 23:28:46 --- Topic for ##slackware set by phrag at Wed Jan 5 13:16:34 2005 Jan 07 23:28:47 -ChanServ- [##slackware] #slackware has moved to ##slackware to fit the freenode channel ownership policies a bit better. If you've been forwarded from #slackware, please "/part #slackware" so your client won't be confused! Jan 07 23:28:47 --- ##slackware :[freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup Jan 07 23:28:53 but when it was time to format the disks, it tried to format the cdrom Jan 07 23:28:55 --- You are now known as smps Jan 07 23:29:02 and i didn' find any hard disk Jan 07 23:29:36 ^griffin^: you want to rebuild everything from source ? Jan 07 23:29:42 the chipset is the promise Jan 07 23:30:10 <^griffin^> mako-sama: on a different architecture, yes. Jan 07 23:30:37 not amd64 by any chance, right ? Jan 07 23:31:03 <^griffin^> Nah, ev67. Jan 07 23:31:21 whatever that is. Jan 07 23:31:24 anyway Jan 07 23:31:24 <^griffin^> Alpha Jan 07 23:31:46 --> Artimus (~jared@66-168-2-157.cli.wi.charter.com) has joined ##Slackware Jan 07 23:32:02 i havn't looked for build scripts, but if they don't exist, then there is no need for them Jan 07 23:32:17 is it possible to pause a linux terminal? Jan 07 23:32:24 with a keythat is Jan 07 23:32:25 not read Jan 07 23:32:30 compdude: What do you mean by pause? Jan 07 23:32:55 like pressing ctrl+scroll-lock in dos Jan 07 23:33:02 <^griffin^> mako-sama: so you would just compile everything on a floppy or two and hope it reads it properly? Jan 07 23:33:02 somthing like what the 'break' does ? Jan 07 23:33:10 that pauses the terminal output Jan 07 23:33:25 --> Gizzmo (~Gizzmo@xgizzmo.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:33:36 <-- Gizzmo (~Gizzmo@xgizzmo.user) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 07 23:33:43 --> Gizzmo (~Gizzmo@xgizzmo.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:33:43 ^griffin^: i mean there is no need for the build scripts, not the packages Jan 07 23:33:44 and then you press ctrl+scroll-lock again and it continues Jan 07 23:33:49 <_erik> compdude yeah the scroll lock Jan 07 23:33:51 i don't knwo what break does Jan 07 23:34:00 oh ok lol Jan 07 23:34:34 TheBeast: are you there? Jan 07 23:35:31 compdude: ctrl+q in screen Jan 07 23:35:33 (sends xoff) Jan 07 23:36:04 or you could get a character terminal which has a special button just for xon/xoff Jan 07 23:37:27 danke Jan 07 23:37:42 --> crud (~bleeding@adsl-46-27-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:38:16 ^griffin^: if you want to ask someone who really knows about this, ask fred87 when he's back ;) Jan 07 23:38:32 sathia_: yeah Jan 07 23:38:33 <^griffin^> He's compiled everything from scratch or something? Jan 07 23:38:37 i gave to boot param bare.i Jan 07 23:38:51 --> Zarkhalar (1000@68.64.111.211) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:39:14 i use SNAP device drivers, do they have 3d acceleration and if they don't can i install ATI drivers on top of them and get faster 2d/3d performance? and what about xaccelerated? Jan 07 23:39:21 how can i try to locate where my hard disks are? Jan 07 23:39:37 sathia_: are ou having any kind of raid adapter ? Jan 07 23:39:47 dmesg |grep hd Jan 07 23:39:52 see if the kernel detects them Jan 07 23:40:05 ^griffin^: yes.. he's doing slack for x86_64 Jan 07 23:40:06 i have a ok Jan 07 23:40:07 wait Jan 07 23:40:14 can anyone please tell me how can i redirect a port to another on the same box? (when anyone tries to connect to 411, the firewall will connect then actually to 4111) Jan 07 23:40:19 <^griffin^> Ah Jan 07 23:40:27 the chipset is the promise Jan 07 23:40:37 how do i specify all drives? Jan 07 23:40:43 I have no idea about that chipset Jan 07 23:40:53 <-- str has quit ("Leaving") Jan 07 23:40:55 dmesg talks about hda which is the cdrom Jan 07 23:41:11 and: ide0, ide1 Jan 07 23:41:18 all directories inside a directory i mean Jan 07 23:41:25 <-- PiterPunk has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 07 23:41:39 mako-sama: Who is? Jan 07 23:41:43 nothing else Jan 07 23:41:59 (working on an x86_64 port) Jan 07 23:42:01 for dir in {WHAT DO I PUT HERE TO SAY ALL DIRECTORIES}; do cd $dir; ./configure && make && make install; cd ..; done Jan 07 23:42:07 Mine is coming along pretty well... Jan 07 23:42:13 sathia_: dunno, sincerly Jan 07 23:42:15 brb Jan 07 23:42:16 wich package contains libbeep.so ? Jan 07 23:42:17 ^griffin^ just noticed a highlight with you mentioned? Jan 07 23:42:18 <-- TheBeast has quit ("leaving") Jan 07 23:42:26 --> DarkTide_ (~main@dialup-4.156.105.81.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:43:13 Artimus: fred87 is working on it Jan 07 23:43:16 <^griffin^> Yeah, how do you compile the root disks for a version of slackware? I'm looking at doing a port for the alpha. Jan 07 23:43:18 mako-sama: Ahh Jan 07 23:43:25 Artimus: not official though Jan 07 23:43:37 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:43:38 fred87: How's your port going? Jan 07 23:43:49 <-- Myagy has quit () Jan 07 23:44:14 artimus, nearly complete d/, a/, ap/, l/, complete x/, working on xap/ right now, and compiling qt right now Jan 07 23:44:35 talking to you from 64-bit xchat in 64-bit fluxbox in 64-bit xorg, with nvidia binary x86_64 drivers working flawlessly Jan 07 23:44:35 fred87: Wow Jan 07 23:44:51 I'm still on a/, though I've been sick lately Jan 07 23:44:51 --> UnixFoo1 (~deez@ip68-98-179-238.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:44:57 I have a question not related to slack. shuld I shoot? Jan 07 23:44:59 fred87, amd ? Jan 07 23:45:03 artimus, which gcc you using? Jan 07 23:45:09 Artimus: no need to go on that ;) Jan 07 23:45:10 fred87: Let me check Jan 07 23:45:13 we2by: yes but only if you can help me with stunnel Jan 07 23:45:15 wich package contains libbeep.so ? Jan 07 23:45:21 smps: yah Jan 07 23:45:30 fred87, respect Jan 07 23:45:31 M3rL7N, www.slackware.com/pb Jan 07 23:45:33 fred87: 3.4.3 Jan 07 23:45:38 tiaz, sorry, I dunno stunnel Jan 07 23:45:38 good choice :) Jan 07 23:45:39 wb fool Jan 07 23:45:45 <^griffin^> fred87: Did you use the default slackware root disks, or no? Jan 07 23:45:50 :D Jan 07 23:45:55 fred87: What are you using as a build environment? Jan 07 23:45:56 :D~ Jan 07 23:45:58 ^griffin^ oh i used slack-10 as a base Jan 07 23:45:58 ask anyway? Jan 07 23:46:07 <^griffin^> dern, I can't exactly do that heh. Jan 07 23:46:15 fred87: Are you compiling -current or 10? Jan 07 23:46:15 artimus, slackware-10, made some cross-compilers, gradually removed traces of 32-bit stuff Jan 07 23:46:20 compiling -current Jan 07 23:46:31 we2by: of course Jan 07 23:46:36 Can anyone explain how to figure the equation for the DisplaySize variable in X ? Jan 07 23:46:40 it's not like I am the final arbiter of ##slackware justice Jan 07 23:46:54 fred87: I'm doing current using Gentoo as a buold environment Jan 07 23:46:59 From the ground up Jan 07 23:47:04 i tried that... not nice Jan 07 23:47:11 My packages work Jan 07 23:47:14 I think Jan 07 23:47:18 I'm going to finish a/ Jan 07 23:47:20 And then we'll see Jan 07 23:47:26 my cross-compilers and stuff upuntil yesterday are up on ftp://ftp.scarlet.be/pub/slamd64/ Jan 07 23:47:39 if I have exampl.con and I want a name server ns1.example.com. can I register just ns1 without ns2? because I don;t have 2 ip Jan 07 23:47:39 got a *big* upload tonight :P Jan 07 23:48:02 <-- sathia_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 07 23:48:03 artimus, you'll get problems with glibc... Jan 07 23:48:12 we2by: most registrars will require two name servers Jan 07 23:48:12 <-- Lurkan has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 07 23:48:15 we2by, you need two Jan 07 23:48:17 though it is *very* handy having gentoo's patches handy :P Jan 07 23:48:22 damnit :( Jan 07 23:48:22 Get two different free name servers Jan 07 23:48:28 we2by: you can set a backup nameserver Jan 07 23:48:30 we2by, why would you need 2 ips? Jan 07 23:48:32 we2by: zoneedit.com Jan 07 23:48:38 n/m, I think I found it Jan 07 23:48:39 no, I want to test my dns server Jan 07 23:48:44 Straterra: the rfc wants you to have it and 1and1.com requires you to Jan 07 23:48:47 fred87: What did you have to do to get a cross compiler working? Jan 07 23:48:56 why does my 'The Linux Users' Guide' user-beta-1.gs look like crap in gs ? Jan 07 23:48:59 can u register both ns1 and ns2 to the same ip? Jan 07 23:48:59 artimus i used cross-tool to make them :P Jan 07 23:49:11 fred87: I was messing with it, but had a problem Jan 07 23:49:12 tiaz, what?? Jan 07 23:49:15 it's barely readable and it looks fine in windows.. Jan 07 23:49:17 I already had Gentoo installed Jan 07 23:49:25 tiaz, you do not need 2 IPs, you need 2 name servers Jan 07 23:49:27 i did :P so i made a spare partition Jan 07 23:49:28 can u register both ns1 and ns2 to the same ip? Jan 07 23:49:32 we2by: no you can't. Jan 07 23:49:32 Straterra: you're supposed to have two geographically disparate (different subnets) nameservers Jan 07 23:49:33 we2by, yes Jan 07 23:49:35 y-yeah Jan 07 23:49:48 which one is correct? Jan 07 23:49:50 :\ Jan 07 23:49:51 Oh crap. Gentoo has 2.3.4. I'm going to be in trouble Jan 07 23:49:54 (glibc) Jan 07 23:50:00 <-- jmedina has quit ("Leaving") Jan 07 23:50:01 we2by: registrars will refuse the same IP. some of them even refuse both ns to be on the same subnet Jan 07 23:50:13 I'm going to reboot back to slack... Jan 07 23:50:13 --> ryen (~ryen@83.72.184.157.ip.tele2adsl.dk) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:50:14 <-- Artimus has quit ("leaving") Jan 07 23:50:20 we2by: of course you can try your luck. Jan 07 23:50:21 we2by: just get with zoneedit.com , they're free and will provide everything you need Jan 07 23:50:22 artimus, cross-compiling then gradually removing 32-bit keeps compat Jan 07 23:50:28 as it's self-built... Jan 07 23:50:30 oh too late Jan 07 23:50:42 --> darkarcon2015 (~darkarcon@dsl-64-246-157-89.rtr0-cox.statetel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:50:44 we2by: i recommend using somthing like everydns for a backup dns Jan 07 23:50:45 hoy hoy! Jan 07 23:50:57 we2by: or zoneedit as tiaz said Jan 07 23:51:06 yea, in fact I don;t want to run a dns server at all Jan 07 23:51:17 okay, i have never done this before so i need some help; how do i play a dvd? Jan 07 23:51:19 we2by, you don't need to Jan 07 23:51:25 darkarcon2015 DarkTide DarkTide_ DarthShrine Jan 07 23:51:27 There are tons of free DNS providers out there Jan 07 23:51:34 but if u run a hosting server, it is great to have ur own dns servers Jan 07 23:51:48 darkarcon2015, run xine an play it Jan 07 23:51:52 we2by: your registrar might provide a free one, if they don't, then i recommand afraid.org :) Jan 07 23:52:03 we2by: don't forget to donate :) Jan 07 23:52:03 smps i tried t hat Jan 07 23:52:05 mako-sama, hehe Jan 07 23:52:21 I can donate a blank cd Jan 07 23:52:22 :P Jan 07 23:52:29 darkarcon2015, and waht is the problem ? Jan 07 23:52:42 "There is no input plugin available to handle 'dvd:/'." Jan 07 23:53:07 maybe you need libdvdread Jan 07 23:53:27 ryan@darkstar:~$ xine Jan 07 23:53:27 This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.1. Jan 07 23:53:27 (c) 2000-2003 The xine Team. Jan 07 23:53:27 libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 1-rc4a from http://xine.sf.net Jan 07 23:53:27 <-- nixor has kicked darkarcon2015 from ##slackware (flood) Jan 07 23:53:37 woops Jan 07 23:53:39 --> darkarcon2015 (~darkarcon@dsl-64-246-157-89.rtr0-cox.statetel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:53:46 ergh Jan 07 23:54:01 i think it's libdvdread Jan 07 23:54:09 i have no experience with playing dvds.. yet Jan 07 23:54:09 <-- DarkTide has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 07 23:54:11 it said "Libdvdread: Using dvdnav version 1-rc4a from http://xine.sf.net" Jan 07 23:54:11 why oh shy doesn't developer statistically link their files instead of this never ending dependency nightamare Jan 07 23:54:20 in the console that is Jan 07 23:54:22 --> Artimus (~Artimus@66-168-2-157.cli.wi.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:54:26 fred87: Still here? Jan 07 23:54:36 compdude, because things would be huge Jan 07 23:54:41 "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable." Jan 07 23:54:46 libdvdread: Can't stat /dev/dvd Jan 07 23:54:54 aha Jan 07 23:55:09 libdecss Jan 07 23:55:09 what Jan 07 23:55:11 maybe Jan 07 23:55:14 libdvdcss Jan 07 23:55:18 <-- L31F has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 07 23:55:20 which one Jan 07 23:55:27 what smps said Jan 07 23:55:29 libdvdcss <- this one Jan 07 23:55:29 :) Jan 07 23:55:35 haha, alright Jan 07 23:55:42 artimus, yah Jan 07 23:55:46 Gizzmo: supply two binaries Jan 07 23:56:13 fred87: For cross-tool, what options did you change in x86_64.dat? Jan 07 23:56:16 artimus, cross-compiling a native toolchain + kernel, then doing native from within slack really reduces chances of incompatabilities Jan 07 23:56:22 artimus, um i can't remember :| Jan 07 23:56:23 mplayer and VideLan are better IMHO Jan 07 23:56:23 i also sont seem to have a "/dev/dvd" Jan 07 23:56:26 dont* Jan 07 23:56:30 fred87: You don't have it installed anymore? Jan 07 23:56:34 artimus, nope Jan 07 23:56:42 My glibc started giving me errors... Jan 07 23:56:51 but binary .tar.bz2 of the end result is on ftp://ftp.scarlet.be/pub/slamd64/ Jan 07 23:57:14 darkarcon2015: what is the device name of your dvd ? Jan 07 23:57:30 fred87: hmmm... That could work too ^_^ Jan 07 23:57:32 okay, i installed libdvdcss Jan 07 23:57:41 anything else that i need to do? Jan 07 23:57:48 artimus, feel like instead of competing, merging? Jan 07 23:57:52 there's a lot of distro :P Jan 07 23:57:54 darkarcon2015: assuming it's /dev/hdc, do somthing like this: ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd Jan 07 23:58:05 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-216-76-227-45.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:58:05 fred87: I'm working on -current Jan 07 23:58:11 so am i Jan 07 23:58:17 fred87: I thought you were doing 10 Jan 07 23:58:19 how can i find out where my dvd drive is located at? Jan 07 23:58:24 i compiled -current from 10 Jan 07 23:58:27 i have a DVD/CD-RW combo drive Jan 07 23:58:33 fred87: Oh, I thought you said you recompiled 10 Jan 07 23:58:40 darkarcon2015: how do you mount your dvd ? Jan 07 23:58:42 fred87: Can I message you? Jan 07 23:58:45 sure :P Jan 07 23:58:58 darkarcon2015: secondary master or slave? Jan 07 23:58:58 mako-sama: i have never used a dvd in linux before Jan 07 23:59:07 only cds Jan 07 23:59:10 ok.. answer XGizzmo :) Jan 07 23:59:20 what is that Jan 07 23:59:35 heh Jan 07 23:59:45 ?? Jan 07 23:59:52 darkarcon2015: ok.. how do you mount any disk you put in your DVD drive ? Jan 08 00:00:04 or do you have a seperate drive you use for CDs only ? Jan 08 00:00:30 <-- Zarkhalar has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 08 00:00:41 i do "mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom Jan 08 00:00:43 " Jan 08 00:00:58 no, i only have one disk drive Jan 08 00:01:42 darkarcon2015: you replaced your cdrom with a dvd? Jan 08 00:01:42 darkarcon2015: ok.. /dev/cdrom is actually a symbolic link to your actual drive. try: 'ls -l /dev/cdrom' to see where the link is pointing to Jan 08 00:02:27 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2005-01-07 12:42 /dev/cdrom -> hdc Jan 08 00:03:02 XGizzmo: haha no, i have never had a stand-alone DVD drive, my only disk drive is a DVD/CD-RW drive Jan 08 00:03:02 darkarcon2015: then do the exact command i gave you before: ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd Jan 08 00:03:17 --> Fuzz (~Fuzz@ioan530-a028.otenet.gr) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:03:27 okay Jan 08 00:03:49 darkarcon2015: thats it. try to play somthing now Jan 08 00:04:03 <-- dimm0k has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 08 00:04:07 NICE Jan 08 00:04:10 IT WORKS! Jan 08 00:04:16 PRAISE THE LORD Jan 08 00:04:18 >_> Jan 08 00:04:22 thanks a lot guys Jan 08 00:06:33 <-- vurte has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 08 00:07:01 <-- grumpydog has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 08 00:07:16 well im out, off to watch Schindler's List Jan 08 00:07:22 thanks again Jan 08 00:07:24 <-- darkarcon2015 has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 00:15:26 --> zomtec (~zomtec@p508106FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:15:28 --> jorge_ (~jorge@212.24.150.227) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:15:38 <-- subcreated has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 08 00:15:41 hi, please how to mount usb mass storage? Jan 08 00:16:19 <-- X[z]X has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 08 00:16:31 --> subcreated (~subcreate@loudsl01-253-109-121.iglou.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:16:34 --> Blade_Run (~icechat5@67-42-131-111.albq.qwest.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:16:46 --> MAN_Hater (~Too_Rude@adsl-70-240-88-132.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:16:53 * MAN_Hater waves Jan 08 00:16:58 what othe slack distros are pretty decient? Jan 08 00:17:18 peanut ? Jan 08 00:17:20 --> nachox (~Emi@200-122-59-216.dsl.prima.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:17:28 * MAN_Hater waves Jan 08 00:17:33 --> unique (~unique@CPE0006258edd3a-CM014320102140.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:17:40 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 00:17:54 --> kop (~trillian@64-40-60-134.nocharge.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:17:55 --> sigma957 (~none@c-24-21-85-156.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:17:56 nachox - do you understand snort and squil and acid ? Jan 08 00:18:14 MAN_Hater, huh? what? Jan 08 00:18:19 hehe Jan 08 00:18:44 nachoxI was just reading about them - and was wondering if you get that deep into the net Jan 08 00:18:59 <-- ^griffin^ (griffin@dcn242-205.dcn.davis.ca.us) has left ##slackware Jan 08 00:19:01 nachox: you snort squil and acid? Jan 08 00:19:03 <-- juice has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 08 00:19:06 <-- mmu_man has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 08 00:19:19 WTF is that? Jan 08 00:19:29 --> bugz (~grind@24.0.176.112) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:19:32 hold on nachox I will send a url Jan 08 00:19:39 <-- compdude (~kads@ti211310a081-7225.bb.online.no) has left ##slackware Jan 08 00:19:53 --> mmu_man (revol@ALyon-112-1-15-117.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:20:23 it is IDS (software (intrusion detection software (and analises Jan 08 00:20:30 wtf Jan 08 00:20:32 EBADCHAN Jan 08 00:20:44 squil = http://sguil.sourceforge.net/images/0.5/eventqry.png Jan 08 00:20:49 * XGizzmo hides before nachox pummels him. Jan 08 00:21:14 MAN_Hater, ohh, that snort and that acid, i dont use them, but ask unixfool Jan 08 00:21:44 k ... thanx (grinin Jan 08 00:21:46 --> n2iko (n2iko@ool-182c5a59.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:21:55 --> epic_ (~epic@ti112220a080-0685.bb.online.no) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:22:02 hi hi Jan 08 00:22:02 --> juice (~juice@mo-65-41-197-57.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:22:03 * MAN_Hater left out bas just cuz Jan 08 00:22:18 * MAN_Hater left out bas just cuz(bas+e Jan 08 00:22:30 waves to Legendre Jan 08 00:22:42 hi MAN_Hater Jan 08 00:22:46 Legendre: sup man Jan 08 00:23:05 XGizzmo - ntm, just back from work. Jan 08 00:23:06 --> _marlon_ (~My@201-010-074-179.cscgo7006.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:23:11 --> fh0bia (~fhobia@129.65.51.19) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:23:13 welcome back Jan 08 00:23:15 YO YO YO Jan 08 00:23:22 didn't realize it was friday till this afternoon =/ Jan 08 00:24:07 so, time for the so-called weekend. Jan 08 00:24:29 weekends are so ummm short Jan 08 00:24:56 --> Pechorin (~cabrilo@adsl-68-93-194-212.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:25:49 I know this is way off topic, but does anyone know how to align a lens on cd player? Jan 08 00:26:04 heh.. Jan 08 00:26:07 Pechorin, ther is no alinment Jan 08 00:26:17 no, but there is focus and power. Jan 08 00:26:29 * MAN_Hater wonders how many years of classes I would have to take to understand the parts of this png that I do not http://sguil.sourceforge.net/images/0.5/rtevents.png Jan 08 00:27:20 for focus, you can always get a disc playing then run the pot up (till it mistracks) , down (till it mistracks) and then set it center between those positons. :) Jan 08 00:27:23 Legendre: both of which you need special equipment to adjust Jan 08 00:27:26 <-- epic has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 08 00:27:30 that kind of thing works often. Jan 08 00:27:56 Legendre, it's a laptop cd player :) Jan 08 00:28:12 omg, you're screwed! Jan 08 00:28:31 <-- Tukon has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 08 00:28:33 well, there is an easily accessible pot, but I've no idea what to do with it :) Jan 08 00:28:42 err, you turn it ;) Jan 08 00:28:43 geez Jan 08 00:28:47 what a nightmare Jan 08 00:28:50 <-- Blade_Run has quit ("There is a byte stuck in my modem!!") Jan 08 00:28:50 * MAN_Hater thinks dropping it while running three time as Legendre suggested might work (NOT) Jan 08 00:28:58 power most likely Jan 08 00:29:04 eh phrag? Jan 08 00:29:19 phrag: have X + fluxbox :) Jan 08 00:29:20 my modem died on my for hours Jan 08 00:29:21 right :) but, how much? I am kind of "afraid" to turn it too much... I acutally got it working by moving it a bit, and then it failed again :( Jan 08 00:29:21 --> ohm_ (1002@DSL217-132-19-72.bb.netvision.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:29:22 + xchat Jan 08 00:29:34 * MAN_Hater pictures someone dropping it first face down - then backside down - then on each edge Jan 08 00:29:50 could of been kernel confliction, anyway, took me hours to get back Jan 08 00:29:52 phag cable or hardware? Jan 08 00:30:05 <^Jenn> =) Jan 08 00:30:12 hello ^Jenn Jan 08 00:30:14 shit usb modem got with line Jan 08 00:30:15 <^Jenn> hello Jan 08 00:30:28 <-- jorge_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 00:30:30 XGizzmo: is a chew to insert firmware from win32 dll Jan 08 00:30:46 Hello guys, you might help me, I am working in Slack 10. I wanna save a variable (the ones you see with set) and I was wondering what is the file that I need to? I don't have .bashrc and when I even create it, and put it there, it does not change it. Jan 08 00:30:47 <^Jenn> im so ghetto im eating a hot dog with mashed tatoes for dinner lol Jan 08 00:30:56 <-- fh0bia has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 00:31:06 ^Jenn: what no collard greens? Jan 08 00:31:10 <-- mmu_man has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 08 00:31:12 <^Jenn> eww? Jan 08 00:31:26 phrag, usb modem? Jan 08 00:31:26 <^Jenn> i aint from the dirty south yo..i aint eat that crap lol Jan 08 00:31:31 --> slack803 (~c8151bc4@server0.24hostingnow.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:31:33 heh Jan 08 00:31:39 nachox: yes =/ Jan 08 00:31:46 ohm_: Ther'es no such file actually. Put it in /etc/profile.d/ or something if you must. Or... put it in .bashrc and symlink .bash_profile to point at .bashrc and that would work, too. Jan 08 00:31:48 --> mmu_man (revol@ALyon-112-1-15-117.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:32:02 phrag, get a decent one man Jan 08 00:32:02 * foureyes779 pictures ^Jenn eating a "hot dog" Jan 08 00:32:03 nachox: router is next on list Jan 08 00:32:07 * MAN_Hater wonders if XGizzmo has any collard greens and black eyed peas left over from earlier this week ? Jan 08 00:32:13 <^Jenn> lol pervert Jan 08 00:32:17 Oh, so it's .bash_profile? Jan 08 00:32:23 MAN_Hater: not Jan 08 00:32:38 yeah so ??? Jan 08 00:32:44 <-- UnixFoo1 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 08 00:32:45 * MAN_Hater Xgizzmo (hehe no luck fer you this year Jan 08 00:32:52 Oh, it works! Jan 08 00:33:01 nope i will be a unlucky mofo Jan 08 00:33:05 It's .bash_profile.. Thank Dagmar! :-) Jan 08 00:33:16 ok, why doesnt this work ? Jan 08 00:33:20 * MAN_Hater grins 2xgizzmo Jan 08 00:33:21 phrag, its an adsl modem? Jan 08 00:33:22 ya br0ke it Jan 08 00:33:25 ah Jan 08 00:33:32 <-- ohm_ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 08 00:33:35 OhMyAchinLap: It's not exactly .bash_profile, since that's only invoked for login shells (man bash) but it's close enough for you for now apparently. Jan 08 00:33:38 <^Jenn> XGizzmo ill give ya some luck..bend over ;) Jan 08 00:33:44 Well, that was a fun nick completion Jan 08 00:33:58 lol @ ^Jenn Jan 08 00:34:03 <^Jenn> hehe Jan 08 00:34:06 <^Jenn> ;) Jan 08 00:34:17 where oatmeal been? Jan 08 00:34:33 <^Jenn> addicted to diablo Jan 08 00:34:34 nachox: yes, Alcatel Speedtouch Jan 08 00:34:34 <^Jenn> lol Jan 08 00:35:12 damn "if" command anyway Jan 08 00:35:18 <-- ryen has quit ("What would we find, if we were to look behind the border of the Universe?") Jan 08 00:35:29 phrag, its new? i though you had cable Jan 08 00:35:36 --> mmu (revol@ALyon-112-1-15-117.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:35:39 nachox: no, about 4 year old Jan 08 00:35:48 if $USER = "morph" then echo "hi m0Rph" Jan 08 00:36:02 <-- mmu_man has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 08 00:36:07 why does that NOT work ? Jan 08 00:36:15 <^Jenn> cuz Jan 08 00:36:34 i know i know, RTFM Jan 08 00:36:36 nachox: actually, wrong... i have had it longer than i have used linux, as it was the final hurdle i made before switching to linux... the day i got this modem working was the day i started using linux forever =) Jan 08 00:36:43 nachox: so it is over 5 years old Jan 08 00:36:44 if [ $USER == "morph" ]; then echo "hi $USER"; fi Jan 08 00:36:49 <^Jenn> no foureyes779 Jan 08 00:36:52 <^Jenn> RTMFM Jan 08 00:36:53 <^Jenn> :p Jan 08 00:37:18 ^Jenn: any need for the smut and hostility ? Jan 08 00:37:22 * XGizzmo wonders what was in ^Jenn's hotdog Jan 08 00:37:23 <-- boerst` has quit (Client Quit) Jan 08 00:37:27 smut? Jan 08 00:37:29 :O Jan 08 00:37:38 <^Jenn> a techie at work said RTFM to another techie the other day and was shocked i knew what it meant cuz im a gurl :\ Jan 08 00:37:46 * phrag checks the calendar Jan 08 00:37:46 <^Jenn> uhh what smut would that me? Jan 08 00:37:52 Read The Fine Manual? Jan 08 00:37:57 <^Jenn> and what hostility? i was joking hence the :p Jan 08 00:38:10 :] Jan 08 00:38:15 phrag, i have used anadsl usb modem in linux for more than a year, changing it with a regular one was the best thing i did in 2004 Jan 08 00:38:21 <^Jenn> foureyes779 knows i was jokin Jan 08 00:38:29 http://srv.fotopages.com/2/3566372.jpg Jan 08 00:38:39 nachox: it took me a year to get this working when i first started! Jan 08 00:39:09 crud - pretty colourz Jan 08 00:39:18 nachox: the day i did may have been one the happiest i can remember, definately in top 5 best, as i could finally use slackware and leave windows forever Jan 08 00:39:25 yep Jan 08 00:39:25 crud: horrible colours! Jan 08 00:39:32 yep Jan 08 00:39:51 --> spenser (~spenser@user-0c8hmse.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:39:53 * XGizzmo feels the love for ol Bill Jan 08 00:40:04 Sloppy sloppy sloppy. if [ $USER = 'morph' ]; then logout; fi Jan 08 00:40:08 tewmten, the prompt little pink gay ? Jan 08 00:40:32 thinkz tewmten is at an angle and can't see the beauty of the image Jan 08 00:40:37 Bill Gates: One persian cat and a monochle short of being a Jame Bond villian. Jan 08 00:41:34 crud - no the four guys on the bench is the answer to that Jan 08 00:41:50 phrag, i actually helped the developer of the driver of mine get ot working and was for a long time the only one that helped users get it working in linux, i stopped doing it when the channel closed due to inactivity Jan 08 00:42:01 I see... Jan 08 00:42:18 crud i am just kidding (spider down one Jan 08 00:42:46 ok =) Jan 08 00:42:55 found it ? Jan 08 00:42:59 phrag, very rewarding, that brought me do freenode Jan 08 00:43:01 no Jan 08 00:43:27 nachox: its nice to feel usefull Jan 08 00:43:28 http://srv.fotopages.com/2/3566371.jpg (a jethro tull song comes to mind Jan 08 00:43:44 XGizzmo, *nod* Jan 08 00:44:41 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 08 00:45:34 MAN_Hater - Jethro Tull.. what is that? :) Jan 08 00:45:55 * foureyes779 hug's ^Jenn Jan 08 00:46:07 didn't Jethro Tull invent the seed press or something Jan 08 00:46:18 thats what i forgot, the darn "[]" Jan 08 00:46:29 Zalamander - no, that was Eli Whitney. Jan 08 00:46:41 * foureyes779 sing's "aqualung" Jan 08 00:46:49 Zalamander - who also discovered how to make Gin from Cotton. Jan 08 00:46:57 ah, of course, how silly of me Jan 08 00:46:57 <-- slack803 has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 08 00:47:07 crud is that you - what country is that ? - Jan 08 00:47:21 foureyes779 you can also use "test" instead of [] Jan 08 00:47:50 ah nevermind Jan 08 00:48:40 Zalamander: example ? Jan 08 00:48:54 foureyes779 if test $USER = "morgoth"; then slay $USER; fi Jan 08 00:49:02 * MAN_Hater leave the srv alone and ends with a link to xmas foto http://srv.fotopages.com/2/3566379.jpg Jan 08 00:49:12 Zalamander: tnx,i'll give it a try in my script Jan 08 00:49:39 Double-quotes make the string eval'able when it's effectively a constant. Jan 08 00:49:47 It's all about the single-quotes, man! ;) Jan 08 00:50:05 evalable? Jan 08 00:50:25 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:50:34 Meaning the shell goes through it looking for variables it needs to substitute for their values. Jan 08 00:50:55 --> oatmeal (~pioneer@oatmeal.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:51:05 only the example is a constant. The real work may contain substitutions Jan 08 00:51:13 Those double quote are probably wasting at least a dozen femtoseconds Jan 08 00:51:13 so quit yer whining Jan 08 00:51:59 * MAN_Hater waves to oatmeal ...and whispers we know your secret now Jan 08 00:52:42 MAN_Hater: i did not have sexual relations with that woman Jan 08 00:52:47 Staying regular is no secret.. Jan 08 00:52:47 define "sexual" Jan 08 00:52:47 and it's important.. important enough totalk about in here. Jan 08 00:52:47 define "regular" Jan 08 00:52:47 oatmeal - yes that is the one Jan 08 00:52:47 define "define" Jan 08 00:52:47 Zalamander - once a day. Jan 08 00:52:47 <-- blackhat__ has quit ("kill -9 irc -.-") Jan 08 00:53:11 <-- crud has quit ("Powered by pre-r0lled j0int & pr0n") Jan 08 00:53:28 --> BlueThumb (~BlueThumb@217.116.235.34) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:53:46 Legendre I find that consistency is more important than frequency. (Double entendre intentional) Jan 08 00:53:58 i use metamucil to stay regular personally Jan 08 00:54:00 --> Lord_Devi (~ld@S01060010b50e8c16.ss.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:54:09 oatmeal what do you use to stay regular socially? Jan 08 00:54:13 rum Jan 08 00:54:17 I see Jan 08 00:54:34 lol Jan 08 00:54:34 * MAN_Hater thinks oalmeal rums seems tastey Jan 08 00:54:54 I have a question. I wish to setup multiple inbox in mutt for fetched mail, but something i'm a little unclear on. Can I handle that with just mutt or mutt+getmail rather. Or do I need to have getmail drop the mail with procmail or the like to organize it into folders? Jan 08 00:55:27 --- mmu is now known as mmu_man Jan 08 00:55:28 procmail would be the more apropos place to make those filters Jan 08 00:55:38 I suspected as much Jan 08 00:55:51 Ah, multiple drops.. keeping it on-topic. Jan 08 00:55:54 Lord_Devi alternately, you could connect independently, using IMAP Jan 08 00:55:57 Something i need to familiarize myself with anyway Jan 08 00:56:17 it's a pop server though.. gmail doesn't have imap yet Jan 08 00:56:17 Legendre ha! Jan 08 00:56:17 it would be cool if it was imap though =/ Jan 08 00:56:19 Lord_Devi: not sure about getmail, but I do that "fetchmail+procmail->mutt" with procmail organizing it all Jan 08 00:56:24 Lord_Devi hm, maybe mutt does POP too. My idea would still require a separate connection though Jan 08 00:56:40 raindog getmail is basically a replacement for fetchmail Jan 08 00:56:48 Zalamander: mutt does do pop (and imap) Jan 08 00:56:54 Zalamander: gotcha Jan 08 00:57:03 gotcha back atcha Jan 08 00:57:07 ah yeah ok cool Jan 08 00:57:12 fetchmail supports spop, which Gmail also supports Jan 08 00:57:14 Zalamander: hehe Jan 08 00:57:32 Question though. so it would go fetchmail -> procmail -> Maildir/mbox? Jan 08 00:57:40 Lord_Devi: correct Jan 08 00:57:49 or what mail dir is most appropriate for procmail and various mail dirs? Jan 08 00:57:55 Maildir or mbox? Jan 08 00:58:02 Lord_Devi that's personal preference Jan 08 00:58:06 i've only ever used mbox really Jan 08 00:58:07 I use gotmail->postfix->mbox Jan 08 00:58:22 oh yeah? ok cool Jan 08 00:58:24 elijah_b gotmail? Is that like getmail but much faster? Jan 08 00:58:28 lol Jan 08 00:58:38 gotmail is used to rertieve hotmail Jan 08 00:58:45 oh cool Jan 08 00:58:50 i.e. bypass the fugly web interface Jan 08 00:58:52 I hear maildir can be kind of faster for you if you have alot of emails too.. that's about the only diff i know of(i.e. one has to load the entire email collection while the other doesn't) Jan 08 00:58:53 neat Jan 08 00:58:57 and unusable too Jan 08 00:58:59 elijah_b though, you should be using gmail Jan 08 00:59:03 I use both Jan 08 00:59:11 l33t :-) Jan 08 00:59:17 gmail is the shiznit Jan 08 00:59:19 --> avoca (~avoca@159-134-144-46.as1.mvw.galway.eircom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:59:30 I'm just saying, DOWN WITH MICROSOFT and all that. Jan 08 00:59:33 heh Jan 08 00:59:38 hehe Jan 08 00:59:42 --> tux_ (~nomastery@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:59:43 someone write a nice doc on email plase - with all ya'll just said Jan 08 00:59:45 yeah i like gmail alot so far Jan 08 00:59:49 i like how it threads conversations Jan 08 01:00:03 I love gmai Jan 08 01:00:03 just wait till gmail eats your soul. Jan 08 01:00:06 I'd like to set something like that up with mutt.. I've had it done once before Jan 08 01:00:08 then you'll come crying. Jan 08 01:00:10 it's pretty cool. I haven't used the web interface much though Jan 08 01:00:20 Lord_Devi: I have that setup now Jan 08 01:00:22 * Lord_Devi just has never set up multiple dirs yet. hehe Jan 08 01:00:31 unfortunately, mutt won't use the remote GMail SMTP server directly Jan 08 01:01:11 it cant? Jan 08 01:01:24 elijah_b as far as I know, mutt requires a local MTA to send mail Jan 08 01:01:30 --> skalet (~skalet@83.251.134.190) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:01:33 instal postfix then Jan 08 01:01:34 it's my ONLY complaint about mutt Jan 08 01:01:35 solved Jan 08 01:01:41 http://bash.org/?434593 Now THAT'S funny... Jan 08 01:01:59 a person shouldn't have to install an MTA on a workstation, or laptop, to be able to send mail through a LAN Jan 08 01:02:44 --> L31F (~L31F@ip216-239-87-107.vif.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:02:48 Legendre hahaha. That's good Jan 08 01:03:17 doo dee doo dmt dee dee doo doo dmt dmt dee dee lsd dee doo.. Jan 08 01:03:29 tewmten: werd Jan 08 01:03:33 * tewmten sings on Divine Moments of Truth, by Shpongle, Jan 08 01:03:37 well of course Jan 08 01:03:40 lol Jan 08 01:03:48 tewmten stp that Jan 08 01:03:51 ? Jan 08 01:04:02 ¿ Jan 08 01:04:11 °¿° Jan 08 01:04:18 --> IronBob (~ironbob@adsl-208-191-166-220.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:05:10 damn, I sure didn't need that Legendre Jan 08 01:05:11 :-] Jan 08 01:05:18 * MAN_Hater wonders why people put their pix on the net http://srv.fotopages.com/2/3566381.jpg Jan 08 01:05:19 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Toronto-ppp296866.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:05:24 raindog you actually visited the URL? Jan 08 01:05:28 raindog - err. did you go to tubgirl?? Jan 08 01:05:29 ditto raindog Jan 08 01:05:44 yeah, had not heard of it before Jan 08 01:05:47 err.. thought you all knew what tubgirl was.. Jan 08 01:05:52 lol, sorr-eee Jan 08 01:05:53 <-- sigma957 (~none@c-24-21-85-156.client.comcast.net) has left ##slackware Jan 08 01:05:53 * raindog feels all goats.cx 'ed Jan 08 01:06:02 I didn't, but I assumed it similar to goats.cx Jan 08 01:06:11 it is.. just more poop. Jan 08 01:06:20 let me just say.... it's NOT work safe Jan 08 01:06:21 lol Jan 08 01:06:22 thanks for the info Jan 08 01:06:32 * Zalamander notes "more poop" Jan 08 01:06:35 thank goodness I'm telecommuting today Jan 08 01:06:37 lol Jan 08 01:07:00 Legendre: h0h0h0, that quote rules! Jan 08 01:07:20 tewmten the drugs kicking in? Jan 08 01:07:30 Zalamander: what drugs? Jan 08 01:07:35 MAN_Hater, That you? Jan 08 01:07:36 * Zalamander turns on the lava lamp for tewmten Jan 08 01:07:44 lol Jan 08 01:07:53 geee, thanks Zal :) Jan 08 01:08:02 eelrirverlt - no *smile - yet thanx for the thought *wink* Jan 08 01:08:02 btw, wtf is wrong with Japanese people's pron? Jan 08 01:08:15 Legendre its' all bukake? Jan 08 01:08:19 lol Jan 08 01:08:23 Legendre: well, for starters; it's "Made in Japan" ;) Jan 08 01:08:33 well, and autodefecation apparently. Jan 08 01:08:33 Are you talking about the screaming and degradation, or just the lack of variety in the models? Jan 08 01:08:40 both Jan 08 01:09:13 I've *no* idea Jan 08 01:09:16 <-- nachox has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 01:09:16 I strive to understand them.. quite an interesting race. Jan 08 01:09:18 these are the same folks who also really like to make cartoon porn Jan 08 01:09:29 I stick with good ol' American roundeye porn, personally. Jan 08 01:09:29 raindog - tentacle pron.. Jan 08 01:09:46 --> Kurt (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:09:47 * MAN_Hater mumbles race is something you do with boats and automobiles Jan 08 01:09:56 well don't go badmouthing tentacle porn now Jan 08 01:09:57 * raindog shivers ... "autodefecation" Jan 08 01:10:02 tewmten: lol Jan 08 01:10:19 seems like tentacle rape was first revealed in Evil Dead (American?) Jan 08 01:10:30 MAN_Hater - well, I'm not interested in political correctness. I just use the old plain-tongue. Jan 08 01:10:51 --> milkmutt (~milkmutt@210.50.144.151) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:10:57 <-- jota has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 01:11:03 <-- L31F has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 01:11:04 speaking of which.. I was talking to a lady on the bus a while back... Jan 08 01:11:05 So, Im still trying to figure out how to use my hardware, or what to do to get this computer working right... Jan 08 01:11:08 we2by, got the movie? Jan 08 01:11:14 So i guess everyone's slackware boxes are working perfectly... Jan 08 01:11:16 hehe - ok (grin - give me three substitute words for race (heheh - I had to come up with three one day in calledge Jan 08 01:11:22 eelriverlt lol Jan 08 01:11:26 eelriverlt: heh Jan 08 01:11:33 I wish I knew why it wont work for me, but Ive got to move on, and get something working. Jan 08 01:11:33 MAN_Hater "ethnicity" Jan 08 01:11:39 crackerjack, still downloading Jan 08 01:11:42 and we got to issues of race, and to quip her : "Well, these days, African Americans.. OR BLACK PEOPLE AS WE USED TO BE ABLE TO SAY.." Jan 08 01:11:49 (she was black) Jan 08 01:11:50 lol Jan 08 01:11:54 shh zalamander (no fair helpin' Legendre Jan 08 01:12:02 lol Jan 08 01:12:02 --> L31F (~L31F@ip216-239-87-107.vif.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:12:06 we2by, ok Jan 08 01:12:09 err, ethnicity and race are different things. Jan 08 01:12:12 * Zalamander sells the test answers Jan 08 01:12:14 just ask the government :) Jan 08 01:12:17 Legendre, Black is ok. Jan 08 01:12:18 lol Jan 08 01:12:27 you can't trust the government Jan 08 01:12:36 I prefer the term roundeye, or gwailo. Jan 08 01:12:37 they are the same people running the bloody country! Jan 08 01:12:41 Legendre, I wont list the ones that are not. but black is fine. Jan 08 01:12:52 Gwailo just sounds a lot cooler than honkey, caucasion, or whitey. Jan 08 01:13:09 unless you're an albino Jan 08 01:13:09 gwailo? thats a new one for me. Jan 08 01:13:12 <-- skalet has quit ("like i get any help here?") Jan 08 01:13:13 well, my 'race' is caucasian (or WHITE PEOPLE) but my ethnicity is german. Jan 08 01:13:13 Dagmar I like "haole" (pronounced how-lee) Jan 08 01:13:14 --> X[z]X (~xzx@bzq-218-90-241.red.bezeqint.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:13:15 then whitey works fine Jan 08 01:13:21 It's Korean for "white ghost" (more or less) Jan 08 01:13:26 tewmten - you can call me 'cracker' if you like. Jan 08 01:13:33 Zalamander: Yeah, the hawaiian word Jan 08 01:13:40 Legendre: ok, you can call me a cookie then, if you like Jan 08 01:13:42 * Zalamander knows where "cracker" came from. Do you? Jan 08 01:13:43 It's got a nice roll to it Jan 08 01:13:48 but I prefer to think of myself as the Man With The Long Knife. Jan 08 01:13:50 legendre - oh so you protest anglo (hides as the reply comes thru Jan 08 01:13:54 Legendre: lol Jan 08 01:13:55 tewmten - lol Jan 08 01:14:19 Zalamander: that Chris Rock sketch, when he did a comercial for Nigga' Please cerelas, it was sponsored by the same company that made Cracker Ass Crackers Jan 08 01:14:20 <-- L31F has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 08 01:14:20 :) Jan 08 01:14:22 Legendre, so, errr uuhh... whats up with the knife? Jan 08 01:14:25 --> L31F (~L31F@ip216-239-87-107.vif.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:14:25 Dagmar and "gringo". Anything Spanish is bound to sound nice Jan 08 01:14:27 that's where it comes from Jan 08 01:14:37 dagmar (interest word usage (so white people are the walking dead (smirk ? Jan 08 01:14:48 tewmten heh, I bet that's a funny sketch Jan 08 01:14:50 <-- L31F has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 08 01:14:55 Yeah, but gringo has inherent negative connotations like n... Jan 08 01:14:55 bubba_ - hmm.. Lakotah for 'white man' translates to 'men with the long knives' (swords, I assume). Jan 08 01:14:57 Zalamander: it was :) Jan 08 01:15:04 erhm, is Jan 08 01:15:04 :) Jan 08 01:15:05 Dagmar nah, no more than the rest Jan 08 01:15:11 i cant get cfdisk to recognize my 160GB Maxtor... Jan 08 01:15:20 --> quittt (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:15:22 gwailo is kind of neutral, considerin that Koreans basically consider all non-Koreans inferior in a generic kind of way Jan 08 01:15:23 ankleteeth you sure it's connected properly? Jan 08 01:15:25 do i need to specify a kernel arguement? Jan 08 01:15:28 * MAN_Hater thinks legendre watched the history detectives last night from the land of redcloud Jan 08 01:15:33 yeah, the maxtor utilities sees it fine Jan 08 01:15:49 its able to format and so on Jan 08 01:15:50 MAN_Hater - heh, no I did not. I'm actually about 1/8th Cherokee. Jan 08 01:15:51 Dagmar uh, there's nothing "neutral" about "inferior in a generic kind of way" Jan 08 01:15:55 where is Sandman1??? Jan 08 01:15:57 Dagmar, well... they are not the best engineers now are they? Jan 08 01:16:06 quittt: not here, obviously.. Jan 08 01:16:07 quittt - try #netbsd Jan 08 01:16:10 slack 10 boot CD btw Jan 08 01:16:22 ankleteeth hm, I dunno then. Jan 08 01:16:25 * MAN_Hater thanx dagmar I can sleep better now that I know that (and that they have neucluer weapons Jan 08 01:16:32 tewmten, why obviously? Jan 08 01:16:34 <^Jenn> sandman is taking a break from irc i heard Jan 08 01:16:40 Zalamander, so it should be seeing it then Jan 08 01:16:40 Zalamander: Deal with 'em enough and you'll see they don't really hold it against anyone. It's kind of considered just everyone else's bad luck to not have been born korean. It's more nationalism than racism as far as I can tell Jan 08 01:17:03 quittt: well I think it's quite obvious that he's not here, otherwise he would show up on the list of names that are in fact, in this channel. Jan 08 01:17:06 * MAN_Hater feels the same about everyone Jan 08 01:17:14 hate? Jan 08 01:17:21 I think 'infidel' has a better ring to it then 'gwailo' Jan 08 01:17:22 :) Jan 08 01:17:24 MAN_Hater - hate them all? :) Jan 08 01:17:25 tewmten, hehhe Jan 08 01:17:26 So... I could use some help. im trying to get this working.... but I think I may not have actually found a solution... Jan 08 01:17:29 MAN_Hater: Well, if they work as well as North korean computers do, then I think until they drive the boat all the way to the coast of Texas before launching, I'm not in much danger Jan 08 01:17:33 tewmten - apostate ;) Jan 08 01:17:43 I mean, all the talibans call white people infidels, right? Jan 08 01:17:44 ;) Jan 08 01:17:51 all non-moslems Jan 08 01:17:52 heheh dagmar Jan 08 01:18:09 and to some Jews, the rest of us are Goys. Jan 08 01:18:24 does anybody here has DrSand ICQ, MSN, YAHOO wethever Jan 08 01:18:50 since linux doesnt want to work right with the sis 180 controller, I do have another onboard controller. primary is ata133, and secondary is 100. can I do a software raid stripe with only one ide controller (master/slave on primary) will performace suffer ? Jan 08 01:18:55 http://bash.org/?10868 Jan 08 01:18:55 tiaz (no not hate - just those who were unlucky enough to reincarnate into "anglos" Jan 08 01:18:56 ;) Jan 08 01:18:56 Legendre: That's actually a pretty good parallel to the Korean/Gwailo thing. I'll have to remember that Jan 08 01:18:58 race hate knows no origin.. no group has the monoply on race hate. Jan 08 01:19:01 --> r00tsh3ll (1000@200-096-253-179.bsace7031.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:19:09 let's patent it then! Jan 08 01:19:27 bubba_: Striping with mismatched drives is always going to take a performance hit. Jan 08 01:19:31 "A novel method of exclusion of given racial groups from ones own" Jan 08 01:19:34 tewmten, SCO already did Jan 08 01:19:43 * MAN_Hater looks at Legendre toes to see the 1/8 Jan 08 01:19:43 Dagmar, what do you mean by matched drives? Jan 08 01:19:55 MAN_Hater - look a couple feet up ;) Jan 08 01:20:09 * MAN_Hater yeppers that's one eight Jan 08 01:20:17 * MAN_Hater hides Jan 08 01:20:17 MAN_Hater: anglos? Jan 08 01:20:17 bubba_: I mean identical RPM drives with identical caches on identical speed busses. Ideally you even want the same manufacturer just because of geometry differences Jan 08 01:20:22 eelriverlt: they did? damn crackers! Jan 08 01:20:24 damn, ths is so frustrating. I wish is would jsut work like it does in windows! Jan 08 01:20:24 ...anglo-saxons? Jan 08 01:20:32 how do I go about patching a compressed kernel? Jan 08 01:20:32 saxophone? Jan 08 01:20:33 tewmten, which apps do you recommend? Jan 08 01:20:42 quittt: for what? Jan 08 01:20:43 bubba_: What, you mean _badly_? Jan 08 01:20:45 --> tiagomadeira (~tiago@200-101-230-186.bnut37003.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:20:46 Teratogen - you don't.. you patch the source and recompile. Jan 08 01:20:54 Dagmar, I have brand new identical maxtor 200 gb IDE ata133 drives. Jan 08 01:20:54 ah. Jan 08 01:21:03 hey new evidence that Bush personally authorized torture of prisoners. I hope everyone around the world remembers that half of us Americans did not vote for this guy. Jan 08 01:21:03 thanks Jan 08 01:21:03 He doesn't even use Slackware Jan 08 01:21:03 * Zalamander is Back On Topic! Jan 08 01:21:03 <-- tiagomadeira has quit (Client Quit) Jan 08 01:21:06 /clear Jan 08 01:21:08 ... and it's 4:20 here on the West Coast of the USA. Jan 08 01:21:14 4:19! Jan 08 01:21:15 Zalamander - yeah, nothing a gallon of gas and a match wouldn't fix. Jan 08 01:21:19 * raindog salutes Zalamander :-) Jan 08 01:21:19 Dagmar, well working at all is better than not even seen in linux! Jan 08 01:21:25 tewmten, everything Jan 08 01:21:26 --> Excentric (~Excentric@62.114.166.66) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:21:32 <-- phrag (~phrag@phra.gs) has left ##slackware Jan 08 01:21:33 tiaz it was a joke (scroll up - in reference to dagmar account of his or her take on korean outlook of others in the world - blame all this on legendre -- he started it (but it's not his foult - it's the other 7/8 off hos body protesting life Jan 08 01:21:37 --> newbie`` (1000@212.156.169.187) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:21:42 aha Jan 08 01:21:45 Zalamander, damn, Im late! guess I better get busy! Jan 08 01:21:45 bubba_: Get the two controllers working as normal drive controllers first, _then_ worry about the software RAID. Jan 08 01:21:47 * tiaz is just checking in every couple screens Jan 08 01:21:50 MAN_Hater - oh trust me, it was my fault ;) Jan 08 01:22:10 --> tiagomadeira (~tiago@200-101-230-186.bnut37003.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:22:11 Dagmar, no matter what ive done, the drives will not show up on the raid controller. Jan 08 01:22:11 grin Jan 08 01:22:22 <-- tiagomadeira has quit (Client Quit) Jan 08 01:22:25 quittt: I would suggest linux, and perl, and bash, and xorg, and xmms, and konqueror, and amsn, and ctorrent, and xterm, and php, and mysql, and apache, and sypheed Jan 08 01:22:25 Dagmar, as single drives, or as an array. Jan 08 01:22:26 that's about it Jan 08 01:22:34 bubba_: It's a hardware raid controller? Jan 08 01:22:46 Dagmar nationalism and racism are just two branches of the same thing: bigotry Jan 08 01:22:50 MAN_Hater - I'm not into 'popular views' on things.. but meet me sometime, you'll see that I treat every individual equally. Jan 08 01:22:58 Dagmar, sort of. its onboard, has a bios, but it requires drivers. Jan 08 01:23:04 Zalamander: it's 4:20 there? wel what are you waiting for, get your pipe out and start fropping! Jan 08 01:23:05 ;) Jan 08 01:23:17 tewmten dude, I am multitasking. Not to worry Jan 08 01:23:21 ah Jan 08 01:23:22 oh silly I know that legendre - (besides I know you can take my kidding you a bit Jan 08 01:23:23 Zalamaner: Yeah, but nationalism leans towards "yay us" as opposed to it's polar opposite of "u r teh suk" Jan 08 01:23:28 how convinient Jan 08 01:23:28 :) Jan 08 01:23:30 * raindog hands the USB 2.x hookah to Zalamander Jan 08 01:23:34 there, that's on topic Jan 08 01:23:35 sorta Jan 08 01:23:39 :-D Jan 08 01:23:46 with native linux support, yay! Jan 08 01:23:51 Dagmar that difference is illusory, imo Jan 08 01:24:00 I would like to see a usb powered hookah.. Jan 08 01:24:01 Zalamander: Into communism much? Jan 08 01:24:09 wtf would it need usb power btw? :) Jan 08 01:24:19 If yuo can't be proud of who you are, it's time to break out the sackcloth and ashes and brown shirts. Jan 08 01:24:25 tewmten: lm_sensors ? Jan 08 01:24:25 * MAN_Hater loves watching everyone get so woried over nothing - fact is if anyone here was hatefull they would not be here helping others that they know not which or what country or color they come from Jan 08 01:24:27 Dagmar I don't advocate communism, if that's what you mean Jan 08 01:24:33 raindog: ah, but of course Jan 08 01:24:39 :-D Jan 08 01:24:40 --> Kurt2 (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:24:42 Zalamander: and active cooling to the water :) Jan 08 01:24:44 --> phrag (~phrag@phra.gs) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:24:53 yo phrag Jan 08 01:25:07 Dagmar you can be proud of who you are without defining who you are in terms of race, or nationality, or gendre, or sexual preference Jan 08 01:25:10 MAN_Hater - yeah, that's what xbone was for :p Jan 08 01:25:11 I tried to get another raid controller, but it wont be in till next week... Jan 08 01:25:16 ah, bloody hell, the op is here.. well, back to idling again then.. Jan 08 01:25:17 tewmten snow bongs :-) Jan 08 01:25:17 ;) Jan 08 01:25:32 Zalamander: h0h0.. would go great with that ice hotell they got here in sweden :) Jan 08 01:25:35 hello all, think storm is dropping my connection Jan 08 01:25:39 or modem is on way out Jan 08 01:25:41 Zalamander, yellow snow bongs. Jan 08 01:25:42 <-- rignes has quit ("leaving") Jan 08 01:26:02 phrag, hey man!!! Jan 08 01:26:05 * MAN_Hater starts taking up a collection for phrag's new modem Jan 08 01:26:08 --> boow (~knoppix@dyn05-ter1-pittsburg.fament.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:26:10 phrag, how are the things going? Jan 08 01:26:17 Dagmar personally, I am proud of what I achieve, through my own skill and hard work, not where I am born, or the color of my skin, or anything else I have no control over, and thus no right to be proud of Jan 08 01:26:37 so i guess the only possible way for me to ge a raid0 right now is to figure out why its not working on the sis180 :( Jan 08 01:26:40 Zalamander: now where's the fun in that? Jan 08 01:26:44 heh Jan 08 01:27:07 hey, look at America.. if it wasn't whitey that was in charge for the last 300 years, I'm sure white people would tell a similar story to blacks.. or native americans. Jan 08 01:27:21 is proud I can type Zalamander without using the tab key Jan 08 01:27:29 nobody but nobody has the monopoly on race hate and genocide. Jan 08 01:27:45 how hard is it to upgrade to 2.6.10 and do i need udev Jan 08 01:27:55 Legendre, no, but americans are pretty good at it. Jan 08 01:28:05 --> coren (~coren@blastquake.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:28:10 bubba_ - you really think we are better than any other group? Jan 08 01:28:13 lol, a buddy whos nick is "chronic" just said "damn that's som good hash" Jan 08 01:28:19 on another network of course Jan 08 01:28:20 :) Jan 08 01:28:26 hey bubba_ want to know what else (ALL) Americans are pretty good at ? Jan 08 01:28:29 tewmten, do you compile your kernel? Jan 08 01:28:30 Legendre, I dont see anyone else bombing iraq! Jan 08 01:28:35 quittt: not at the moment Jan 08 01:28:44 quittt: but I compile my own kernel, yes. Jan 08 01:28:47 bubba_ - just look at africa.. black man loves to wipe out other black man.. Jan 08 01:28:49 boow how hard it is depends on your skill level. No you don't need udev, but it can come in handy for some things Jan 08 01:29:04 tewmten, what I need to do to compile? Jan 08 01:29:08 Legendre, not at the scale we americans have done it. Jan 08 01:29:13 bubba_ - um, you can't see Iranians? Jan 08 01:29:16 /part #politics Jan 08 01:29:19 quittt: there's a tutorial about it on www.slackwiki.org iirc Jan 08 01:29:28 phrag - yeah, I done went and did it again. Jan 08 01:29:28 Legendre, not from here. Jan 08 01:29:32 bubba_ - lol Jan 08 01:29:32 what is the advantage to compile? Jan 08 01:29:45 quittt: you can customise it for your own needs Jan 08 01:29:47 quittt bragging rights Jan 08 01:29:47 quittt: take advantage of arch-specific enhancements Jan 08 01:29:55 bubba_ go join tha frekin peace corp Jan 08 01:30:07 my 3D games will get faster? Jan 08 01:30:09 yeah, like if you compile for K6, you can 'take advantage' of the kernel crashing. Jan 08 01:30:12 MAN_Hater, heh... maybe I have? Jan 08 01:30:14 MAN_Hater go join the frekin marines Jan 08 01:30:15 bubba_ take off for the tsunami shore Jan 08 01:30:19 p-p-p-powerbook! Jan 08 01:30:37 MAN_Hater, has anyone ever taken your lame advice before ? Jan 08 01:30:40 * MAN_Hater put your backbone where your beliefs are Jan 08 01:30:41 just me. Jan 08 01:30:46 --> HeatHawk (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:30:52 i hard 2.6 kernel had cdburning problems is it fixed yet Jan 08 01:30:54 meta-ridley aren't you the guy that wanted PIL? I made a package for -current if you want it Jan 08 01:30:56 quittt: also it increases your virtual penis if you have a homebuilt kernel Jan 08 01:31:06 bubba_ - go fix your SiS raid thingy :p Jan 08 01:31:10 I dont need a virtual penis Jan 08 01:31:18 <-- Fuzz has quit ("Quit") Jan 08 01:31:21 how 'bout a virtual vagina then? Jan 08 01:31:24 Legendre, Id love to, how ? Jan 08 01:31:24 Zalamander: nice! will have to grab it from you when i'm not working :) Jan 08 01:31:27 i was gonna say haha Jan 08 01:31:34 how bout some virtual knockers Jan 08 01:31:40 ;) Jan 08 01:31:40 * boow haha Jan 08 01:31:50 quittt I don't recompile unless I have a specific need for a particular feature that's not included. Of course, I get laid a lot in real life, so there's no need there. Jan 08 01:31:57 vk.sourceforge.net.. coming soon Jan 08 01:31:58 hehe Jan 08 01:32:01 Then you'll get virtual spam about virtual cheap viagra Jan 08 01:32:03 hey bubba lame ass - your quote is noted Jan 08 01:32:12 and virtual stds Jan 08 01:32:14 http://lohanfreestyle.com/ Jan 08 01:32:14 <-- At0mic_PC has quit ("Client exciting") Jan 08 01:32:19 there, go watch that.. funny. Jan 08 01:32:28 lindsey lohan? Jan 08 01:32:28 --> qeed (~qeed@dialup-4.235.63.3.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:32:47 <-- Artimus has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 01:32:49 Zalamander - it's really screwd up.. funny, and yet mysogynistic at the same time. So goes hip-hop. Jan 08 01:32:51 MAN_Hater, thats nice, you can keep it for future reference for when you feel the need to tell someone to go somewhere. Jan 08 01:33:03 * Zalamander prefers Scarlet Johannsen anyday. Jan 08 01:33:03 *rowr* Jan 08 01:33:47 Legendre: site won't load, wtf, fix it! Jan 08 01:33:52 *sigh* Jan 08 01:33:57 hahah Jan 08 01:33:58 err, got flash? Jan 08 01:34:13 <-- boow has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 01:34:14 btw, I watched Amish in the City the other day, and damn, them amish chicks are kinda hot! Jan 08 01:34:49 Legendre: nah, it keeps saying "lohanfreestyle.com contacted, waiting for reply..." Jan 08 01:34:51 Ill offer $20 to anyone that can get this sis 180 controller and my raid0 array to work under slackware. Jan 08 01:35:11 tewmten - yeah, I watched that too.. Jan 08 01:35:18 $20 American ? *(smirk Jan 08 01:35:22 I watched Sex in the City, and city girls are hot -- in fact they kind of look like Jessica Parker Jan 08 01:35:25 Kickin' it with da' Amishes! Jan 08 01:35:30 MAN_Hater, ofcourse. Jan 08 01:35:42 Legendre: yeah, totally, rave party with amishes Jan 08 01:35:43 yo yo, I be shunnin' you ass! Jan 08 01:35:44 wicked Jan 08 01:36:44 I've been to the Amish colonies in Amana. Jan 08 01:36:46 hrrmmmm whats an amish rave like? bet thats real fun! Jan 08 01:36:55 lol! do google image search for "hot amish chicks" Jan 08 01:37:03 --> UnixFoo1 (~deez@ip68-98-179-238.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:37:03 bubba_ - they flick kerosin lanterns on & off really fast. Jan 08 01:37:11 <-- qeed (~qeed@dialup-4.235.63.3.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 08 01:37:13 How long before they do "sex in the server room", oh wait I think that was on TelevisionX :) Jan 08 01:37:19 bubba send your hard earned U$20 here http://donate.ifrc.org/ Jan 08 01:37:26 --> libervisco (1000@cmung2855.cmu.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:37:28 Legendre, can they listen to music too ? Jan 08 01:37:41 heheh Jan 08 01:37:59 could like one amish dude play the banjo, while another flicks his lanter to the music ? Jan 08 01:38:00 * libervisco is installing portage for slackware :) Jan 08 01:38:06 tewmten - LOL!! Jan 08 01:38:22 Legendre: HEHE Jan 08 01:38:35 how do i complie a file.c file? gcc -o file.c? Jan 08 01:38:48 gcc -o file.o file.c Jan 08 01:39:04 Zalamander: http://knark.phreak.se/flashback.swf - cool trippy flash cartoon :)) Jan 08 01:39:11 --- libervisco is now known as libersl Jan 08 01:39:14 its only a .c file Jan 08 01:39:26 libervisco: Are you using emerde or Gentoo's own emerge? Jan 08 01:39:28 um, yeah.. Jan 08 01:39:36 ok heh Jan 08 01:39:38 slackd00d - just do as I said. Jan 08 01:39:44 i know,sorry Jan 08 01:39:46 Ill offer $20 to anyone that can get this sis 180 controller and my raid0 array to work under gentoo. Jan 08 01:39:50 --- libersl is now known as liberslack Jan 08 01:40:17 bubba_ when? Jan 08 01:40:19 try #gentoo Jan 08 01:40:26 <-- crackerjack has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 08 01:40:29 --- UnixFoo1 is now known as W|GGL|T Jan 08 01:40:39 Zalamander, anytime. Jan 08 01:40:40 --> sdogi_ (~java@84-50-17-16-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:40:55 anyone used squirrelmail? Jan 08 01:41:03 I'd prefer slack, but if slack wont work, and gentoo does, thats fine. Jan 08 01:41:03 bubba_, Have you checked your MB bios settings yet? Jan 08 01:41:14 eelriverlt, which ones did you want me to check? Jan 08 01:41:37 The IDE configuration ones Jan 08 01:41:59 tewmten http://elftrance.com Jan 08 01:42:04 <-- XGizzmo has quit ("going going gone") Jan 08 01:42:06 If Slackware doesn't work and Gentoo does it's just basically proof you don't know how to rebuild your kernel. Jan 08 01:42:09 bubba here is where i meant to post http://donate.ifrc.org/ Jan 08 01:42:10 eelriverlt, well yes, i have ide, I dont know what you want me to check out in my bios though. Jan 08 01:42:12 <-- r00tsh3ll has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 01:42:14 bubba_, what i'm saying is not to ask for gentoo-specific info in here... Jan 08 01:42:30 opps i just ran the new exploit they found in the kernel on my laptop...now its frozen. Jan 08 01:42:37 <-- Kurt has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 08 01:42:43 "new" exploit? Jan 08 01:42:49 Something's come out in the last four hours? Jan 08 01:42:50 http://www.rcs.ir/ Jan 08 01:43:14 http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/01/07/2028203.shtml?tid=172&tid=106 Jan 08 01:43:17 W|GGL|T, oh, well, i asked first with slackware, but im also open to gentoo... Jan 08 01:43:25 just came out i guess Jan 08 01:43:29 I've got a local DOS exploit on this box, but I think it's specific to my junk hardware. Jan 08 01:43:35 bubba_, i'm not asking Jan 08 01:44:04 * MAN_Hater thinks legendre need squil Jan 08 01:44:06 ssheesh. Jan 08 01:44:10 <-- kosmonaft has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 08 01:45:04 bubba_, The IDE Port settings, You might need to change them to support legecy operating systems Jan 08 01:45:14 --> tbird (Bot@pcp09788624pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:45:17 W|GGL|T, ok, I will do my best to never mention that other thing. Jan 08 01:45:34 eelriverlt, port setting... ok, ill have a look for that. Jan 08 01:46:16 Zalamander: cool :) Jan 08 01:46:21 bubba_, there's a reason...there's no sense in asking gentoo questions in #slackware. i'm not being an ass but i'm like that with alot of people in here Jan 08 01:46:37 dagmar are you in texas ? (your earlier quote Jan 08 01:46:49 bubba_, Go to the IDE configuration in your bios and write down what they're at now if you need to. Jan 08 01:47:08 --> jota (~jota@201.243.211.168) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:47:10 --- ChanServ gives voice to W|GGL|T Jan 08 01:47:18 --- nixor gives voice to phrag Jan 08 01:47:20 haha, terrence mckenna :DD Jan 08 01:47:23 =P Jan 08 01:47:27 * MAN_Hater does what the voices tell me Jan 08 01:47:57 squil?? Jan 08 01:48:14 hi phrag Jan 08 01:48:15 phrag, W|GGL|T, which one of you is nixors lord and master? Jan 08 01:48:16 squil = http://sguil.sourceforge.net/images/0.5/eventqry.png Jan 08 01:48:17 hehe Jan 08 01:48:25 tewmten - yeah, he's an interesting character. Jan 08 01:48:25 phrag is Jan 08 01:48:30 eelriverlt, my bios doesnt anything that says ide configuration, but like other bios's it has an area that list ide devices. Jan 08 01:48:32 hiya W|GGL|T =) Jan 08 01:48:39 although i do have access to nixor :o) Jan 08 01:49:03 thats cuz nixor is phrag's faithfull gurlfriend Jan 08 01:49:18 I have found a setting to enable/disable sata, but I dont know if disabling will help anything. Jan 08 01:49:25 MAN_Hater: tcl is no use to me on a lonely night Jan 08 01:49:39 <-- sdogi has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 08 01:49:40 * MAN_Hater sure that's what they all say Jan 08 01:49:59 grinz @ phrag **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jan 8 01:50:12 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 9 22:07:44 2005 Jan 09 22:07:44 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 09 22:07:44 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support Channel - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | Jan 09 22:07:44 --- Topic for ##slackware set by phrag at Wed Jan 5 13:16:34 2005 Jan 09 22:07:44 -ChanServ- [##slackware] #slackware has moved to ##slackware to fit the freenode channel ownership policies a bit better. If you've been forwarded from #slackware, please "/part #slackware" so your client won't be confused! Jan 09 22:07:44 --- ##slackware :[freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup Jan 09 22:07:54 * XGizzmo unhooks the tap he had on phrags bandwidth Jan 09 22:08:04 :D Jan 09 22:09:39 --> AcidChild (~ash@dsl-80-41-13-16.access.uk.tiscali.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:09:46 --> ph0enix (~phoenix@201-003-140-177.nhoce7005.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:09:52 can some one send me the bittorrent package? Jan 09 22:09:58 or tell me where i can get it from? Jan 09 22:10:01 its on disk 4. Jan 09 22:10:09 dont have that disk. Jan 09 22:10:18 AcidChild: Google for it, not hard to find. Jan 09 22:10:23 bittorrent pkg? Jan 09 22:10:31 i like azureus for bittorrent Jan 09 22:11:06 ximpul: That last one made it unlikely, but this most recent one, (that made it 49) sealed, I think. Jan 09 22:12:05 yeah its done Jan 09 22:12:19 FriedBob-> i almost didnt notice, the gf is whining at me Jan 09 22:12:38 AcidChild, package? dude, go to a slackware mirror and find the /extra directory underneath whichever slackware version you use, it's in there afaik Jan 09 22:12:48 ximpul: I just turned it off. Jan 09 22:12:53 --> Kurt (kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:13:40 AcidChild: Or go to the bittorrent site and download the source and compile. Quick search of google is all it took me to find it, last I looked. Jan 09 22:14:30 yeah, you need xwPython to compile the curses-based one, afaik Jan 09 22:14:35 does anyone know how I can just simply setup an anonymous FTP for my girlfriend to login to from downstairs using proftpd? I have changed the /etc/proftpd.conf to try and reflect what I'm wanting to do and nothing seems to work :( Jan 09 22:15:06 xomp, uh, this is on LAN? IMO, Samba is easier to setup Jan 09 22:15:08 xomp-> tried samba or NFS ? Jan 09 22:15:11 I've removed the user "ftp" from /etc/ftpusers like it suggested Jan 09 22:15:12 xomp: check the proftpd conf file Jan 09 22:15:24 COLTS WIN Jan 09 22:15:29 allow anonymous Jan 09 22:15:52 nologo, I've done that a jillion times lol but it simply will _not_ work for some reason :( Jan 09 22:16:42 --> Innoruuk (1000@d14-69-78-200.try.wideopenwest.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:16:44 Jan 09 22:16:44 RequireValidShell off Jan 09 22:16:44 User ftp Jan 09 22:16:44 Group ftp Jan 09 22:16:44 # We want clients to be able to login with "anonymous" as well as "ftp" Jan 09 22:16:44 <-- nixor has kicked xomp from ##slackware (flood) Jan 09 22:16:53 --> xomp (~rawr@ky-winchester1d-105.rhmdky.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:16:54 xomp, you're sharing files from a linux computer to a windows computer? or what? Jan 09 22:16:55 --> nordle (~nordle@82.153.70.59) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:16:59 bah sorry guys :\ Jan 09 22:17:13 NeoLaptop, yes, but I don't have samba installed Jan 09 22:17:25 xomp: Was gonna suggest samba, lot easier IMO Jan 09 22:17:31 From both ends. Jan 09 22:17:34 * geeshock is back (gone 01:10:53) Jan 09 22:17:45 <-- HeatHawk has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 09 22:18:30 --> denisbr (~denisbr@200-180-093-010.jgsce201.dial.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:18:50 xomp, grab the cd and install it then :D Jan 09 22:18:56 Anyways, time for work Jan 09 22:18:58 <-- denisbr (~denisbr@200-180-093-010.jgsce201.dial.brasiltelecom.net.br) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:19:02 BBL. Much, much later. Jan 09 22:19:04 <-- FriedBob has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 09 22:19:26 --> denisbr (~denisbr@200-180-093-010.jgsce201.dial.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:19:41 <-- denisbr (~denisbr@200-180-093-010.jgsce201.dial.brasiltelecom.net.br) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:20:58 when booting from the slack install cd, what is the /dev/fd2 drive listed under mount ? Jan 09 22:21:18 OutpourDCC, do "mount" and find out Jan 09 22:21:31 i did Jan 09 22:21:44 ./dev/fd2 on / type ext2 (rw) Jan 09 22:21:53 i think is the floppy Jan 09 22:21:57 it is Jan 09 22:22:07 ok then why isn't the harddrive showing up? Jan 09 22:22:08 anyone know what ports i need open for bittorrent? Jan 09 22:22:36 OutpourDCC, it isn't supposed to Jan 09 22:22:37 it's on the bitorrent site Jan 09 22:22:44 AcidChild, www.bittorrent.com? Jan 09 22:22:54 ah ! :D Jan 09 22:23:11 Polleke: how then do i know what /dev/xxx to use so i can format the drive so i can install slack? Jan 09 22:23:11 hard drives, ide anyways, are hda, hdb, hdc, etc ide devices Jan 09 22:23:14 OutpourDCC, you're installing. You want to make partitions and format them. You don't do that on a mounted system Jan 09 22:23:33 OutpourDCC, run "cfdisk" Jan 09 22:23:39 OutpourDCC, those are selected and mounted during the install process Jan 09 22:23:45 ah ok, how can i get a list of drives then? Jan 09 22:23:53 cfdisk Jan 09 22:23:54 <-- xomp (~rawr@ky-winchester1d-105.rhmdky.adelphia.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:24:05 ah there we go thanks. i was using just fdisk Jan 09 22:24:13 works too Jan 09 22:24:17 fdisk -l works Jan 09 22:25:41 is it better to patition some swap space or use a paging file Jan 09 22:25:43 ? Jan 09 22:26:11 swap space Jan 09 22:26:11 partition unless you're extrememly tight on space Jan 09 22:26:33 swap space != paging file Jan 09 22:26:41 er, swap > paging Jan 09 22:26:50 what is a paging file, I know theres a pagefile in Win32, but not on linux?? Jan 09 22:26:55 i only have a 6.4gb drive on this box Jan 09 22:27:03 that's plenty. Jan 09 22:27:33 --> inflex (~PLD@dsl-171.156.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:27:37 even if you installed everything, (not recommended) you'd only use 2 gigs or so. Jan 09 22:28:01 alright Jan 09 22:28:52 a page file on linux is a file wiped to zeros and formatted (virtually) ext2 Jan 09 22:29:21 <-- gpsz|nikK has quit ("http://stuntlaban.no-ip.org") Jan 09 22:29:47 i know because i used to (on my machine that has 1.5gb ram) mount the virtual drives (ram drives) and map them to use them as swap, sort of trick the system into using ram drives as swap Jan 09 22:29:51 however, i don't recommend doing that Jan 09 22:30:10 1.5gb of ram Jan 09 22:30:19 glaglaglaglagla Jan 09 22:30:26 what do you use all that for?! :) Jan 09 22:30:54 chris-^, running linux, what do you think? :D Jan 09 22:30:57 lol Jan 09 22:31:05 B=====================================================D Jan 09 22:31:13 i would like, serious fellatio for 3gb of ram Jan 09 22:31:17 jpeg, please keep your things to yourself Jan 09 22:31:22 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to phrag Jan 09 22:31:23 <-- sYk0 (~zachary@dialup-4.229.189.248.Dial1.Detroit1.Level3.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:31:24 --- phrag sets mode +q ##slackware jpeg!*@* Jan 09 22:31:25 --- phrag removes channel operator status from phrag Jan 09 22:31:34 lol Jan 09 22:31:43 phrag, how the heck do you do it that fast? do you use a script? Jan 09 22:31:49 hi phrag, I just wanted to apologize for earlier Jan 09 22:31:51 nope, just alias Jan 09 22:31:56 ah Jan 09 22:32:05 Squall`: nah, it's a telepathic irc client Jan 09 22:32:09 lol Jan 09 22:32:28 what mode is +q? Jan 09 22:32:29 yeah, phrag is directly connected over ethernet directly to his brain Jan 09 22:32:36 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@adsl-66-143-142-36.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net Jan 09 22:32:37 <-- nixor has kicked jpeg from ##slackware (banned: jpeg - ascii troll) Jan 09 22:32:41 OutpourDCC: muted, can't talk in channel Jan 09 22:33:01 ah Jan 09 22:33:06 phrag: you been getting notices from my bot? Jan 09 22:33:10 StevenR: no Jan 09 22:33:13 good Jan 09 22:33:18 --> d4rkw0lf (~bi0h4z4rd@201.3.158.242) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:33:22 phrag, hey can i talk 2 U in /msg ? Jan 09 22:33:30 phrag: means it's noticing me, not channel Jan 09 22:33:33 <-- light_ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 09 22:33:43 NeoLaptop: yes Jan 09 22:34:34 <-- d4rkw0lf has quit (Client Quit) Jan 09 22:34:39 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to phrag Jan 09 22:34:39 --- phrag sets mode -q ##slackware jpeg!*@* Jan 09 22:34:41 --- phrag removes channel operator status from phrag Jan 09 22:35:03 eermm.. Jan 09 22:35:08 i have install bittorrent Jan 09 22:35:18 and downlladed the .torrent files. Jan 09 22:35:25 what do i use to download it? Jan 09 22:35:32 there are loads of files. Jan 09 22:35:37 is there any particular reason the slack setup utility won't detect my cdromdrive? Jan 09 22:35:37 and the docs on the site are crap Jan 09 22:35:52 what kinda of CDROM? Jan 09 22:36:04 IDE Jan 09 22:36:09 DVD? Jan 09 22:36:13 no Jan 09 22:36:14 or just plain CDROM? Jan 09 22:36:21 ah. Jan 09 22:36:25 OutpourDCC-> what kernel ? Jan 09 22:36:49 erm, whatever is the default on the slack 10 distribution Jan 09 22:36:56 .. images. Jan 09 22:36:57 well if he is installing it what kernel do u think ximpul ? Jan 09 22:36:57 2.4.26 Jan 09 22:36:58 2.4. Jan 09 22:37:04 bare.i is the "default" Jan 09 22:37:06 OutpourDCC, I've had it once, and weird ennough it worked after a reboot Jan 09 22:37:07 <-- LinuxGold (~scottham@pcp016078pcs.harngt01.de.comcast.net) has left ##slackware Jan 09 22:37:16 bareacpi.i works good for an ide system that uses ACPI Jan 09 22:37:21 --> freychef (~jf@Ottawa-HSE-ppp4031985.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:37:21 AcidChild-> ahh i was distracted by vida nvm Jan 09 22:37:23 i booted from the cd drive Jan 09 22:37:25 lowmem.i is more for systems with like 32mb or less ram Jan 09 22:37:30 i dont know why the kernel won't detect it Jan 09 22:37:30 rofl. Jan 09 22:37:31 --> dodo_ (~dodo@ANice-205-1-38-192.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:37:42 are you passing ide-scsi to the kernel at boot? Jan 09 22:37:43 most systems pentium 2 and later can use bareacpi.i or bare.i Jan 09 22:37:44 does anyone know where the package docs arE? Jan 09 22:37:50 <-- madsj has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 09 22:37:52 <-- Polleke has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:38:01 ximpul just using default bare.i no parems Jan 09 22:38:11 --> biviss (~biviss@81-208-36-87.fastres.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:38:15 hi all Jan 09 22:38:19 hey Jan 09 22:38:21 AcidChild, as in what? to get more info on a module? probably in /usr/src/linux/Documentation, /usr/doc, or you could run "modinfo ide-scsi" or whatever the module is Jan 09 22:38:30 OutpourDCC is it in /etc/fstab ? Jan 09 22:38:37 NeoLaptop, wrong person :P Jan 09 22:38:51 <-- meta-ridley (~craig@hlfxns01bbg-142068111203.ns.aliant.net) has left ##slackware Jan 09 22:38:52 phrag: u got a notice from my bot in last 10secs or so? Jan 09 22:38:53 just need to find the READ me for bittorrnet Jan 09 22:38:56 --> meta-ridley (~craig@hlfxns01bbg-142068111203.ns.aliant.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:39:16 <-- backblue has quit ("leaving") Jan 09 22:39:24 oneforall nope only floppt and proc in fstab Jan 09 22:39:53 OutpourDCC look in dmesg | grep cdrom Jan 09 22:40:30 <-- meta-ridley (~craig@hlfxns01bbg-142068111203.ns.aliant.net) has left ##slackware Jan 09 22:40:42 <-- avoca has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:40:49 is there someone who can tell me how to set up the automount of cdrom? Jan 09 22:41:15 it says it attached the drive as hdc Jan 09 22:41:15 --> meta-ridley (~craig@hlfxns01bbg-142068111203.ns.aliant.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:41:20 (well the driver at least) Jan 09 22:41:30 /dev/cdrecorder /media/cdrecorder subfs fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0 Jan 09 22:41:38 ls -l /dev/cdrom Jan 09 22:41:39 but when i select hdc in the setup util, it gives an error Jan 09 22:41:39 that line in fstab biviss Jan 09 22:41:50 or so how. Jan 09 22:41:51 --> Analyzer (~Analyzer@ts3-a156.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:42:15 <-- Frost^ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:42:29 /dev/ /mnt/ subfs fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0 Jan 09 22:42:50 thx Jan 09 22:43:30 OutpourDCC stick in a data cd and do mount -t iso9660 /dev/jdc /mnt/cdrom Jan 09 22:43:41 j/h Jan 09 22:44:00 j/h? Jan 09 22:44:11 oh Jan 09 22:44:11 yeah Jan 09 22:44:13 gotcha Jan 09 22:45:55 mount: mount point /mnt/cdrom does not exist Jan 09 22:46:17 subfs ? Jan 09 22:46:19 what's that thing ? Jan 09 22:46:40 a stackable fs ? Jan 09 22:47:20 hmm thatys should have been made that dir Jan 09 22:47:26 thatys/that Jan 09 22:48:29 ooh Jan 09 22:48:36 i did dmesg | grep hdc Jan 09 22:48:42 <-- nordle has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:48:51 and Jan 09 22:48:52 i did dmesg | grep hdc | more rather Jan 09 22:49:00 lots of errors Jan 09 22:49:11 <-- freychef has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:49:21 hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Jan 09 22:49:27 hdc: command error: status=0x50 Jan 09 22:49:40 --> dragonagenta (~dragonage@evrtwa1-ar9-4-62-081-058.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:49:41 OutpourDCC try mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/ Jan 09 22:49:49 end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 16 Jan 09 22:49:51 hi all Jan 09 22:49:52 and it repeats Jan 09 22:50:07 with different sectors Jan 09 22:50:16 has anyone dealt with a wireless network card, the d-link g510? Jan 09 22:50:52 oneforall : mount: Not a directory Jan 09 22:51:32 ls -l /mnt Jan 09 22:51:53 total 0 Jan 09 22:52:54 hmm nothing in there no /mnt/floppy even Jan 09 22:53:24 you nah ls -l /floppy or ls -l /cdrom Jan 09 22:53:32 nah/have Jan 09 22:54:16 you nah :) Jan 09 22:54:25 ls -l /cdrom Jan 09 22:54:30 --> Drago5 (drago5@DSL217-132-175-140.bb.netvision.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:54:33 returns: Jan 09 22:54:56 rw-string 1 root root timestamp /cdrom -> /var/log/mount Jan 09 22:55:44 <-- Drago5 (drago5@DSL217-132-175-140.bb.netvision.net.il) has left ##slackware ("Client exiting") Jan 09 22:57:36 --> OtavioCarvalho (OtavioC@200.175.117.58.dialup.gvt.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:57:53 <-- ximpul has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:57:59 OutpourDCC, what the heck are you doing? Jan 09 22:58:04 havintg some issues? Jan 09 22:58:16 trying to install slack Jan 09 22:58:29 sounds like your cd isn't so good. did you check md5 on the ISO before burning? where'd you get the cd? do you know if your cdrom has been giving you trouble in the past? Jan 09 22:58:30 doesn't look to me like it fully installed Jan 09 22:58:32 but the setup util will not recoginize the drive when it trys to select the source Jan 09 22:58:54 i've used the cd before without issue Jan 09 22:59:05 i think it's the cd drive Jan 09 22:59:35 like isaid dmesg | grep hdc | more gives lots of errors Jan 09 22:59:39 so you never competed the install right ? Jan 09 22:59:44 no Jan 09 22:59:51 OutpourDCC, uh, hmmm, is the cd drive a cd-r/rw or cdrom drive/ Jan 09 22:59:57 just cdrom Jan 09 23:00:04 plain cdrom Jan 09 23:00:05 <-- dm1tri has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 09 23:00:07 OutpourDCC, and what speed did you burn the cd ? Jan 09 23:00:08 ide Jan 09 23:00:12 oh wait Jan 09 23:00:35 hdc: SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC140, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM Drive Jan 09 23:00:53 but the drive itself doesn't mention it's a dvd drive Jan 09 23:01:04 OutpourDCC, that has little to do with it Jan 09 23:01:17 --> samkin (sam@adsl-6-34-48.tys.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:01:37 OutpourDCC, try burning the cd again with a new cd-r, this time burn at the slowest possible speed. some cdrom drives have issues with cd-r's based on what speed they were burnt at Jan 09 23:01:37 no thats just saying its a driver for cd/(or)dvd Jan 09 23:02:20 alright Jan 09 23:02:37 NeoLaptop well notice one thing in /mnt he has no /mnt/floppy or /mnt/cdrom Jan 09 23:02:59 DriveREady SeekComplete Error Jan 09 23:02:59 ls Jan 09 23:03:00 oneforall, during install? could be due to a corrupted cd (i.e. the cdrom is having issues reading it) Jan 09 23:03:00 which I'mm sure slack 10 it went for /floppy /cdrom to those Jan 09 23:03:02 oops Jan 09 23:03:05 know what that means? Jan 09 23:03:19 i know it sounds weird, but i've had issues with that before in the past, so i'm saying it _could_ be that, but i'm not sure. Jan 09 23:03:36 yeah having trouble reading the cd Jan 09 23:03:47 --> bleh__ (~bleh@212.38.149.71) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:03:51 ah ok Jan 09 23:04:01 let me burn then Jan 09 23:04:17 it's worth a try, if you have a bunch of cd-r's Jan 09 23:04:27 OutpourDCC I notice you said at install you picked the /hdc for the source and it borked on you so I'd say you never got a complete install Jan 09 23:04:40 <-- OtavioCarvalho has quit (Client Quit) Jan 09 23:04:43 i've had issues with certain other distributions' ISOs in the past, had to purchase the cds from a cheap cd burning place online (cheapbytes) Jan 09 23:05:05 oneforall no.. ive never installed at all Jan 09 23:05:09 i am trying to install now Jan 09 23:05:26 and in the install when i select /dev/hdc it gives me an error and doesnt let me install Jan 09 23:05:38 <-- samkin (sam@adsl-6-34-48.tys.bellsouth.net) has left ##slackware Jan 09 23:05:44 OutpourDCC ah ok then if you got a boot off the cdrom and got that far its a read issue then Jan 09 23:05:52 anyone in here use a cd-rw/dvd combo drive? Jan 09 23:06:08 OutpourDCC thats why there is no /mnt/cdrom yet :) Jan 09 23:07:37 yeah it could be the cd also. technically, you could swap the hard drive over to another machine, install slack onto it, then swap the hard drive back (or whatever you want to do) Jan 09 23:08:14 i' Jan 09 23:08:19 i'll just burn another cd Jan 09 23:09:09 --> Drago5 (drago5@DSL217-132-175-140.bb.netvision.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:09:20 <-- Drago5 (drago5@DSL217-132-175-140.bb.netvision.net.il) has left ##slackware ("Client exiting") Jan 09 23:10:09 bah gotta reboot brb Jan 09 23:10:25 OutpourDCC, burn at the slowest speed possible Jan 09 23:11:18 <-- zomtec has quit ("Naspa- wir können kein Geld, wir können nur billig!") Jan 09 23:11:30 <-- defile has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 23:12:45 --> idaho45 (~john@201.243.31.212) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:14:18 bleh__, i am Jan 09 23:14:32 cdrw/dvdrw drive use Jan 09 23:15:53 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:15:57 <-- starfighter1 has quit (Client Quit) Jan 09 23:16:38 --> defile (~defile@unicron.ecr.navy.mil) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:16:47 --> absbrain (~nedim@212.39.110.236) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:17:07 Hey guys Jan 09 23:17:32 <-- OutpourDCC has quit ("reboot") Jan 09 23:19:05 Jan 09 23:19:08 <-- bubba_ (~bubba@c-67-171-159-156.client.comcast.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 09 23:19:21 NeoLaptop, I hit a cat in my car Jan 09 23:19:30 --> bearry (~bhando@S0106004005c5f406.wp.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:19:36 kitty killer! Jan 09 23:19:41 Straterra, you kept driving, right? :D Jan 09 23:19:47 NeoLaptop, of course Jan 09 23:19:48 4 points!! :D Jan 09 23:19:56 <-- bearry (~bhando@S0106004005c5f406.wp.shawcable.net) has left ##slackware Jan 09 23:20:03 But..I got yelled at for my step dad for speeding when I hit it Jan 09 23:20:04 anyone know how to get an img out of firefox memory cache? Jan 09 23:20:08 I see the entry Jan 09 23:20:13 He wasn't even with me, and I wasn't speeding Jan 09 23:20:15 --> Kurt2 (kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:20:20 once i was in thick chattanooga traffic, dog ran across the road, couldn't go anywhere. some idiot in a van next to me yelled at me and stuff lol, i was like "whatever" Jan 09 23:20:31 <-- bleh__ has quit () Jan 09 23:20:33 I hit a cat one time and a lady came running out of here house demanding I pay for it. Jan 09 23:20:52 eelriverlt, i'd be like "do you have a receipt?" "no" "ok, stfu then" Jan 09 23:21:14 Finally the police came, she told them what she told me and they arrested her Jan 09 23:21:22 Seriously? Jan 09 23:21:23 wtf why? Jan 09 23:21:24 What for? Jan 09 23:21:27 I asked them what for Jan 09 23:22:00 ... and ? Jan 09 23:22:01 They said it's against the law to sell pussy Jan 09 23:22:06 lol Jan 09 23:22:09 eelriverlt, HAR HAR HAR Jan 09 23:22:14 That was a terrible joke Jan 09 23:22:20 yepperz Jan 09 23:22:22 <-- absbrain has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 23:22:29 =) Jan 09 23:24:00 <-- dodo_ (~dodo@ANice-205-1-38-192.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) has left ##slackware Jan 09 23:24:07 http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4084 Jan 09 23:24:35 --> prowlah (prowlah@cpe-66-75-115-226.socal.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:25:08 wtf is a memory cache anyway Jan 09 23:25:24 raela : memory cache? it caches memory Jan 09 23:25:34 --> SiegeX (1000@adsl-63-196-7-236.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:25:36 ananke: then why does it have image files in it Jan 09 23:25:44 --> IronBob (~ironbob@adsl-208-191-166-220.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:25:55 raela : elaborate Jan 09 23:26:03 raela, sounds like browser cache or something Jan 09 23:26:24 --> Outpour (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:26:41 Key: file:///home/heather/school/graduation_project/img00029.jpg | Data size: 921600 Bytes | Fetch count: 7 | Last Modified: Sun Jan 9 15:16:57 2005 | Expires: No expiration time Jan 09 23:26:46 on firefox.. I want that file Jan 09 23:27:05 --> SigSegV (~Miranda@real.dq.fct.unl.pt) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:27:19 raela, want it? why not download it from the web? the link is right there Jan 09 23:27:29 heh.. Jan 09 23:27:30 file:// Jan 09 23:27:35 NeoLaptop: because I accidently copied over the file Jan 09 23:27:40 ok burning now heh Jan 09 23:27:47 NeoLaptop: but it's in my cache.. so why can't I freaking see it Jan 09 23:27:58 <-- SigSegV (~Miranda@real.dq.fct.unl.pt) has left ##slackware Jan 09 23:28:01 raela, isn't browser cache on disk? Jan 09 23:28:28 NeoLaptop: this is memory cache device Jan 09 23:28:30 <-- Squall` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 23:28:39 which I have NO clue what that means Jan 09 23:28:48 which is what I'm asking.. where do I get the picture! Jan 09 23:29:12 <-- Straterra has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 09 23:29:18 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:29:49 a freaking cache file shouldn't be this hard, argh Jan 09 23:29:51 raela, i dunno either, ask in #mozilla or on the web then Jan 09 23:30:07 NeoLaptop: I did, they told me to read a page that said nothing Jan 09 23:30:14 NeoLaptop: except I asked in #firefox Jan 09 23:30:58 well sorrry bro, wish i could help you Jan 09 23:32:14 not a guy.. Jan 09 23:32:47 there is no garuntee the file is cached any longer Jan 09 23:33:05 s/guy/something Jan 09 23:33:08 did redhat make ext3? Jan 09 23:33:17 IronBob, google for ext3's history Jan 09 23:33:22 i would assume cached files are stored in ~/.mozilla or firefox or soemthing along those lines Jan 09 23:33:33 it was originally an extension of ext2, which is why you can mount ext3 as ext2 and visa versa Jan 09 23:34:09 and since redhat isn't the longest lived linux distribution, i have difficulty believing they devised a file system Jan 09 23:34:17 I should've made a freaking copy of the files Jan 09 23:34:32 and stupid firefox just *has* to taunt me Jan 09 23:34:33 you should alias rm so that it comfirms Jan 09 23:35:13 oh, I didn't rm Jan 09 23:35:15 I mv'd Jan 09 23:35:16 --> Krapo (~krapo@80.125.230.101) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:35:21 IronBob, do "modinfo ext3" as root Jan 09 23:35:23 hello all Jan 09 23:35:23 ok where did you move it to? Jan 09 23:35:25 ext3 was developed by Steven Tweedie ----> http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html Jan 09 23:35:49 ohh moved a new one to that one Jan 09 23:35:50 nm Jan 09 23:35:57 see, I moved it to a dir (with a bunch of other pics), named it something, then accidently named another file to that one Jan 09 23:36:05 you can alias mv to not overwrite existing files also Jan 09 23:36:07 but I viewed all files with firefox Jan 09 23:36:26 i've heard that a module could help me it's PCItoISA someon can help me and say to me where i can configure it in the kernel ...? Jan 09 23:36:50 NeoLaptop: can't find module ext3 Jan 09 23:36:58 IronBob, oh well Jan 09 23:37:19 mv -i Jan 09 23:38:04 -i = prompt for confirmation when destination exists Jan 09 23:38:24 doesn't help me now *grumbles* Jan 09 23:38:37 I still don't see the point of memory cache Jan 09 23:38:53 no one for my PCItoISA? Jan 09 23:38:55 everything caches something to memory anyways ... Jan 09 23:39:05 --> Redb3ard (~oylerj@c-24-125-12-101.va.client2.attbi.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:39:27 this busybox thing.. is it only used on the boot cd? seems like some utils have symlinks to it Jan 09 23:39:32 <-- Analyzer has quit ("Quit") Jan 09 23:40:01 <-- Trevor1 has quit ("leaving") Jan 09 23:40:12 <-- _SiegeX has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 09 23:43:02 bah Jan 09 23:43:22 hm.. I wonder if it's inappropriate that my pic of a foal has his male part showing Jan 09 23:43:33 <-- Kurt has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 09 23:43:35 <-- Krapo (~krapo@80.125.230.101) has left ##slackware Jan 09 23:44:03 lol Jan 09 23:44:31 outpour, busybox is a combined binary that replaces sh, init, and other common utils Jan 09 23:44:34 smaller Jan 09 23:46:15 --> GFaulT (~GFaulT@200222222146.user.veloxzone.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:47:00 does this pic look like it's better off not going on a boad? (warning.. has horse organs) http://www.geocities.com/crystalsuicune2/leroy.jpg Jan 09 23:48:21 <-- signal has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 09 23:48:34 for future reference: if you want to keep your system responsive, do not compile kdemultimedia at same time as xmms Jan 09 23:49:16 <-- dragonagenta has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 23:49:24 fred87: how much work you have left there ? Jan 09 23:49:47 we2by you here? Jan 09 23:50:12 mako-sama, a lot of n/, ap/, and xap Jan 09 23:50:21 and quite a lot of 10second each noarch packages Jan 09 23:50:58 haha. Jan 09 23:51:17 you have to babysit it Jan 09 23:52:58 poohie, yes, I am Jan 09 23:54:26 we2by you still alive? ;) Did you watch the movie? I have another for you.. you want the torrent? Jan 09 23:54:35 <-- ph0enix has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 09 23:54:37 yea, I did watch the movie Jan 09 23:54:41 sure Jan 09 23:55:09 crackerjack, what is the topic of it? Jan 09 23:55:13 <-- solsTiCe has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 09 23:56:21 It's about quauntum meachanics, teleportation and the theory of time traveling. Including intervieuws at CERN.. Give me a moment.. I'll make a torrent.. Jan 09 23:57:02 cool Jan 09 23:57:10 we2by *quantum Jan 09 23:57:22 making a torrent without having other people downloading the same file, might as well just use ftp/http Jan 09 23:58:00 i can give it to a friend Jan 09 23:58:09 and he will download from him Jan 09 23:58:45 NeoLaptop I know.. I usually make a torrent. pass it to friends and Thanatermesis msg to physics on 10 servers.. if my server doesn;t go down i'm at top speed.. ahum.. Jan 09 23:58:48 the problem is, that not much ppl interested in watching these movies Jan 09 23:58:50 yeah, but torrents use the fact that many people are downloading to speed up the download, which is why i'm saying that if you're the only two using it ... Jan 09 23:59:06 crackerjack, oh ok COLLEGE bandwidth :D Jan 09 23:59:15 ;) Jan 10 00:00:30 --> Trevor1 (~03008d9a0@d205-250-237-240.bchsia.telus.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 00:00:41 who is poohie >? Jan 10 00:00:58 I see, it is crackerjack Jan 10 00:01:17 poohie is an alias I use for ops irc channels. Jan 10 00:01:33 we2by which channel you been.? Jan 10 00:01:45 on freenode? Jan 10 00:01:51 o.a Jan 10 00:02:31 we2by primarely for botting channels. Jan 10 00:02:32 feenode: #slackware,mandrake,#debian,#fedora,#mysql,#apache,#postfix,#courier,#proftpd,#qmail,#sendmail Jan 10 00:02:51 and #php also Jan 10 00:03:02 that is it Jan 10 00:03:19 I used to hang on small network I knows. but not any more Jan 10 00:03:41 we2by that's it? how do you mean? Jan 10 00:03:55 and I am on OFTC #vserver too Jan 10 00:04:00 NeoLaptop Im still having the same problem with the cd drive Jan 10 00:04:11 --> TheBeast (~betzivu@dsl-66-225-165-22.vianet.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 00:04:17 crackerjack, got the torrent? Jan 10 00:04:43 no.. I need to finish 5 others first.. hehe Jan 10 00:04:46 NeoLaptop I think i'm just gonna move the hardrive and install it on another box Jan 10 00:04:58 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-216-77-193-206.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 00:05:18 we2by but it's it 6.8 GB.. you sure? Jan 10 00:05:22 guys, I'm playing with a VIA USB 2.0 hub. from what I know, the "ehci-hcd" module needs to be load in order to get the hub working. my problem is that my mouse which is connected to this hub, is not working. I'm sure that I have to load another module, but I dunno which of them Jan 10 00:05:27 any clue ? Jan 10 00:05:28 crackerjack, yep Jan 10 00:05:48 I got a 24oGB hd Jan 10 00:05:51 right now I have ehci-hcd loaded, it detected my VIA USB 2.0 hub without any kind of problems Jan 10 00:06:27 TheBeast does it come up with lsusb or via some log? Do you have any trace of the device? Jan 10 00:06:43 we2by ok.. Jan 10 00:06:56 crackerjack: mmm, it comes up once the ehci-uhcd module is loaded :) Jan 10 00:07:23 I've tryed to load "hid" to, but it still doesn;t work Jan 10 00:07:44 Outpour, do that then Jan 10 00:08:03 <-- Squall` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 00:08:14 TheBeast check lsb Jan 10 00:08:25 TheBeast (lsusb Jan 10 00:08:41 anyone know what the nominal independence for headphone jacks usually is? heh. =) Jan 10 00:08:53 noting Jan 10 00:08:57 *nothing Jan 10 00:10:00 nothing? ok. plug in your device and check messages. Do you have the right modules enabled? Does other USB devices work? What kernel? Jan 10 00:10:24 2.4.28 Jan 10 00:10:42 I don't want to run hotplug, that's why I want to specify the modules in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules Jan 10 00:10:55 so, right now I'm playing with that script =) Jan 10 00:11:16 TheBeast, when you plugged in the usb device, did you check /var/log/syslog to see where usb assigned the device? Jan 10 00:11:23 and did you check linux compatibility on the device Jan 10 00:11:30 NeoLaptop: didn't Jan 10 00:11:34 there is compatibility Jan 10 00:11:35 right.. Jan 10 00:11:42 it works fine with the USB 1.1 driver Jan 10 00:11:45 uhci-hcd Jan 10 00:12:01 what chipset you say? Jan 10 00:12:02 but I want it to work with ehci-hcd =P Jan 10 00:12:26 TheBeast, well hotplug usually loads ehci-hcd only if the device claims 2.0 abilities, iirc Jan 10 00:12:34 VIA VT 6202 Jan 10 00:12:50 <-- Kurt2 has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 00:12:58 NeoLaptop: perhaps my mouse isn't working with "USB 2.0" ? Jan 10 00:13:16 it's a fancy logitech weel mouse Jan 10 00:13:28 that's also possible Jan 10 00:13:35 mmm, I'll use uhci-hcd Jan 10 00:13:41 but check tail -n 3 /var/log/syslog Jan 10 00:13:58 TheBeast .. no.. that can't be it.. you really should gigure out the correct protocol. and be sure you load the correct module which fits your chipset. Jan 10 00:14:07 TheBeast, actually, /var/log/messages Jan 10 00:14:09 nothing about my usb devince Jan 10 00:14:24 TheBeast other usb devoce working? Jan 10 00:14:26 crackerjack: there is no module for the via chipset Jan 10 00:14:38 those ehci-hcd and uhci-hcd make it working Jan 10 00:14:42 <-- GFaulT (~GFaulT@200222222146.user.veloxzone.com.br) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 10 00:15:13 mm, forget about USB 2.0 Jan 10 00:15:21 TheBeast, did you check /var/log/messages ? Jan 10 00:15:23 I'll use the usb 1.1 driver, it's almost the same thing Jan 10 00:15:36 NeoLaptop: that's what i'm doing right now Jan 10 00:15:37 wait Jan 10 00:15:41 TheBeast No, it's not almost the same thing.. Jan 10 00:16:17 we2by where did you come across poohie? Jan 10 00:16:30 in this channel Jan 10 00:16:31 messages detects successfuly my USB 2.0 hub, it says that Jan 10 00:16:38 poohie we2by you here? Jan 10 00:16:39 it just doesn't detect my mouse Jan 10 00:16:43 the hub is working, right now Jan 10 00:16:47 we2by did you check everyone's name?? hehe Jan 10 00:17:06 we2by ohgw ahh.. hehe. Jan 10 00:17:22 lol. no Jan 10 00:17:30 there are 199 nicks lol Jan 10 00:17:30 we2by you are right... Jan 10 00:17:35 we2by ;0 Jan 10 00:17:47 how do i unload a module ? Jan 10 00:17:52 simply rmmod ? Jan 10 00:17:58 we2by lot of bitchx clients.. It's a bit of a mess sometimes Jan 10 00:18:05 * NeoLaptop sings "199 nicks in the channel, 199 nicks ... kick one out, ban one now, 198 nicks in the channel ..." :D Jan 10 00:18:30 TheBeast modprobe -r (if it's supported by kernel) Jan 10 00:18:38 NeoLaptop ;) Jan 10 00:19:00 bitchx ... the irc client for control freaks / wanna-be-1337 people Jan 10 00:19:08 if I load the usci-hcd it works, damn it Jan 10 00:19:33 but, what are the other modules that I need to laod for my mouse ? I mean, i have loaded "uhci-hcd" and next ? Jan 10 00:20:12 NeoLaptop wanna-be-1337? Never heard of that.., bit i'am a control freak.. I admit. :) Jan 10 00:20:32 --> ndc (~ndc@ip68-4-35-68.pv.oc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 00:20:48 NeoLaptop besides this way it's easier to use screen. Jan 10 00:21:09 hello...can I ask the experts a question? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jan 10 00:21:20 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 10 14:49:47 2005 Jan 10 14:49:47 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 10 14:49:47 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support Channel - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | Anyone hearing from Sandman1, please /msg unixfool | Jan 10 14:49:47 --- Topic for ##slackware set by unixfool at Mon Jan 10 03:40:01 2005 Jan 10 14:49:47 -ChanServ- [##slackware] #slackware has moved to ##slackware to fit the freenode channel ownership policies a bit better. If you've been forwarded from #slackware, please "/part #slackware" so your client won't be confused! Jan 10 14:50:09 <-- Analyzer has quit ("Quit") Jan 10 14:53:06 --> StevenR (~foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 14:54:09 waves to StevenR Jan 10 14:54:31 can someone with real player tell me if this is working for them please ? http://www.ktru.org/kreal.smil Jan 10 14:54:48 * MAN_Hater cusses plugins Jan 10 14:56:21 ok I got it - thanx tho Jan 10 14:59:33 <-- paje has quit () Jan 10 15:00:35 ananke: morning Jan 10 15:01:19 morning Jan 10 15:01:47 damn monday. i actually got called and woken up at 8:12am today. i hate when that happens Jan 10 15:02:38 heh Jan 10 15:02:50 I just had to fix a server with a bios update... go figure Jan 10 15:02:54 I love it when it's that simple though Jan 10 15:03:38 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:04:24 Dominian, I don't. I can't do bios upgrades from 180 miles away :-P Jan 10 15:04:40 fuzzbawl: sure you can... get someone onsite to lend a hand ;) Jan 10 15:05:13 * StevenR yos to MAN_Hater Jan 10 15:05:57 * R3nn bows at FriedBob ;) Jan 10 15:06:14 --> blackhat-- (1000@217.219.181.69) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:06:40 R3nn: G'morning Jan 10 15:06:45 ananke: You around/awake? Jan 10 15:06:47 afternoon :) Jan 10 15:06:56 0800 hrs here Jan 10 15:07:05 heheh, 15:07 already Jan 10 15:07:46 thank you stevenr Jan 10 15:08:24 If I need to pass a kernel option with lilo, how can I do that? I tried adding it a few places, but it says ... Nevermind, I just remembered that I should have been using an append=. Silly me. Jan 10 15:08:44 --> Tom^ (~thomas@0x503fe33d.odnxx1.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:08:47 a selfanswering question, cool ;) Jan 10 15:08:55 typical monday? Jan 10 15:09:17 Work was crazy last night, didn't get home till almost midnight Jan 10 15:09:34 ouch Jan 10 15:09:45 Staid up until about 0300 installing some SELinux packages Jan 10 15:09:59 some commitment :) Jan 10 15:10:13 Then, when I wanted to be up right around now, I woke up at like 0700 Jan 10 15:10:47 I should still be in bed, esp since I've got big plans for the day. Namely, spending it with my GF> Jan 10 15:10:57 hehehe Jan 10 15:11:12 I haven't seen her in over a week. Jan 10 15:11:15 spending it in bed too, eh? ;) Jan 10 15:11:44 Perhaps the morning, but we have some errands to run. Will have to see how things go. Jan 10 15:11:50 <-- poohie has quit ("patching my head") Jan 10 15:11:51 lol Jan 10 15:12:02 <-- crackerjack has quit ("patching my head") Jan 10 15:13:30 ahw damnit, had to call a client about some oracle stuff, turns out he went home ill. I hate postponing important stuff Jan 10 15:13:43 * R3nn ponders on Jan 10 15:14:00 Heh Jan 10 15:14:01 --> willwork4foo (~xxxx@fluorine.eu.sun.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:14:09 Hey foo Jan 10 15:14:33 --> deufo (~deufo@n219077137065.netvigator.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:14:41 R3nn: call the client at home and bitch them out for being sick! Jan 10 15:14:47 how to i load a module from a location i specify? Jan 10 15:14:52 --> turbanoo (~user@201.1.144.126) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:15:20 deufo : man insmod Jan 10 15:15:32 ananke: Heh, was gonna say man modprobe. ;) Jan 10 15:16:04 modprobe doesn't load from a specified location as nicely as insmod. however, yes, usually i do recommend using modprobe Jan 10 15:16:24 * MAN_Hater meditation is boring Jan 10 15:16:50 ananke: I installed those packages last night. Was relatively painfree other than the normal trepidation from replacing glibc et al, and reading the install.txt I grabbed off the one site. Jan 10 15:17:09 ananke: Didn't know that, but then again, never tried loading from anywhere other than the "defaults" Jan 10 15:17:30 neat. i'm not sure how much i'll play with them yet. Jan 10 15:17:37 --> Ahil (~Ahil@213.240.224.47) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:17:39 all those extra security models are a pain to manage Jan 10 15:17:48 That and the reboot that was needed. Jan 10 15:18:56 I got a few more things to figure out, and need to do a proper policy, but it'll be fun, and nice once I get it going. Jan 10 15:19:11 Espicially once I get to where I can install tripwire. Jan 10 15:20:21 a silly question? can i :) Jan 10 15:21:09 radiohead: Just ask, the only silly/stupid questions are the ones unasked and ones like "can I ask..." Jan 10 15:21:45 cn somebody explain me when i copy data from /hdaX1 to /hdX2 example 2GB and when i umount /dev/hdX2 it late about 4-7 seconds Jan 10 15:21:56 FriedBob: :) i say without ask lol Jan 10 15:23:08 My guess would be it's flushing the buffers/caches and perhaps updating the journaling, if applicable, if I am reading what you said right. Jan 10 15:23:16 FriedBob: when i try munt -o sync then cp take little longer and umount finished 1sec Jan 10 15:23:16 --> Polleke (polleke@polleke.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:23:20 <-- willwork4foo has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 15:23:25 --> slackem (~w00t@ool-182c5ff6.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:23:34 how to clone two hardisks? Jan 10 15:23:53 Dunno what the -o sync thing does, never used it and haven't read the man for mount yet. Jan 10 15:23:54 Physically impossible. Jan 10 15:24:06 FriedBob: yep i read ok :) Jan 10 15:24:46 FriedBob: it means "do all I/O synchronously" Jan 10 15:25:03 FriedBob: well on manual say should be done synchronously Jan 10 15:25:06 jorgito: Are they they exact same type? Jan 10 15:25:06 <-- turbanoo has quit ("...mais tem o que não pode os mano, é doutro lado mais é é pela orde vamo dá mó mamão só catá demorou, ó só, ti pus na fita q) Jan 10 15:25:19 Dagmar: Ahh, instead of the default async. Makes sense. Jan 10 15:25:21 tom I thought dd would clone ? Jan 10 15:25:23 Dagmar, they are the same size Jan 10 15:25:33 jorgito: But not the same model? Jan 10 15:25:38 jorgito: you mean clone one disk to another? Jan 10 15:25:45 Dagmar: yep u right Jan 10 15:25:47 jorgito: or clone two disks to two other disks? Jan 10 15:25:55 Dagmar yes they are not the same Jan 10 15:26:09 jorgito: Okay, now are they the _exact_ same size? Jan 10 15:26:10 Dominian no , to clone one disk to another second Jan 10 15:26:22 ah Jan 10 15:26:27 jorgito: If they are the _Exact_ same size, you can use dd to copy them Jan 10 15:26:28 Dagmar, yes they are.., Jan 10 15:26:28 You can do that with Norton Ghost. Jan 10 15:26:37 or knoppix Jan 10 15:26:45 jorgito: If the destination drive is just a wee bit smaller than the source drive tho, it will not work Jan 10 15:27:01 Dagmar: that's the downlside to use dd to do the copy Jan 10 15:27:12 Dagmar: copies sector by sector.. what a bitch.. Jan 10 15:27:18 jorgito: like, if you old drive is /dev/hda and the new one is /dev/hdc you can do `dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc bs=512` and then just wait until it's done. Jan 10 15:27:26 Dagmar, Dominian what to do with the partitions? Jan 10 15:27:56 --> signal (~anarky@host27-20.pool8251.interbusiness.it) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:28:26 http://www.partimage.org/ Jan 10 15:28:30 jorgito: If you copy the drive using the whole device as the name (/dev/hda instead of /dev/hda1) it will copy the partition table and everything. Jan 10 15:28:44 Partition Image will only copy data from the used portions of the partition. For speed and efficiency, free blocks are not written to the image file. This is unlike the 'dd' command, which also copies empty blocks. Partition Image also works for large, very full partitions. For example, a full 1 GB partition can be compressed with gzip down to 400MB. Jan 10 15:28:59 Dominian: It's not like you cant jack up block size to be the maximum burst size the drives will do Jan 10 15:29:12 Dagmar: yeah Jan 10 15:29:45 Dagmar: so that is explain why umount take a little time ? Jan 10 15:29:59 radiohead: Does what explain? Jan 10 15:30:59 about when i copy data on other reiserfs partition on linux then try umount /dev/hdX then umount take few seconds Jan 10 15:31:16 --> Analyzer (~Analyzer@ts3-a141.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:31:37 hey, i can modinfo something but i can't modprobe that thing Jan 10 15:31:40 anyone knoe why? Jan 10 15:32:18 --> willwork4foo (~xxxx@fluorine.eu.sun.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:32:18 deufo: you using modprobe as root? Jan 10 15:32:26 yes Jan 10 15:32:31 --- solsTiCe is now known as Gniarg Jan 10 15:32:41 deufo: when you modprobe.. what's it tell you error message wise? Jan 10 15:32:46 <-- turbano has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 15:32:46 --- Gniarg is now known as linuce Jan 10 15:32:49 duefo: The module has to be saying something about why it's not loading in the syslog Jan 10 15:33:12 FATAL: Module snd_emu10k1 not found. Jan 10 15:33:19 heh Jan 10 15:33:20 --> tbird (1000@pcp09788624pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:33:20 uhh Jan 10 15:33:23 Dagmar: sorry thought u read before my question :) Jan 10 15:33:28 It's not compiled as a module in your kernel Jan 10 15:33:39 lo Dominian Jan 10 15:33:41 radiohead: Sounds like it's just writing the remaining journal info to me Jan 10 15:33:43 deufo: You compile your own kernel? Jan 10 15:33:45 radiohead: lo Jan 10 15:33:48 yes Jan 10 15:33:59 Dagmar, must be the same filesystem on both drives? Jan 10 15:33:59 i installed that module by myself Jan 10 15:34:02 deufo: You need to compile that driver as a module Jan 10 15:34:05 --> Psirom (~140@203-206-23-102.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:34:10 <-- linuce has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 10 15:34:11 Dagmar: thx man Jan 10 15:34:19 --> solsTiCe_ (~solsTiCe@d213-103-247-158.cust.tele2.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:34:23 radiohead, DAgmar is woman Jan 10 15:34:26 deufo: In the kernel config... that driver needs to have an M next to it. Jan 10 15:34:31 --- solsTiCe_ is now known as solsTiCe Jan 10 15:34:46 but then 5 mins ago it was working Jan 10 15:34:52 until i recompiled my kernel Jan 10 15:34:57 * MAN_Hater boo hooze cuz no one commented on parttion image Jan 10 15:35:01 <-- tbird has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 15:35:02 * Dominian shrugs.. I'm just tellin' yah Jan 10 15:35:03 --> tbird (1000@pcp09788624pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:35:09 but b4 and now it was not compiled with the kernel Jan 10 15:35:09 I use the same driver... it needs to be a module in the kernel config Jan 10 15:35:10 now.. Jan 10 15:35:22 if you did something to the kernel.. and didn't run lilo before you rebooted Jan 10 15:35:28 that might be your problem. Jan 10 15:35:30 <-- Analyzer has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 15:35:44 ah Jan 10 15:35:44 anyway.. I need a cig... brb Jan 10 15:35:46 jorgito: oh i didn`t know Jan 10 15:35:47 i fixed the problem Jan 10 15:36:31 * MAN_Hater thinks seeing a tbird is a good thing at the start of a week Jan 10 15:36:51 <-- slackem has quit () Jan 10 15:37:00 MAN_Hater: Depends on who was inside it. ;) Jan 10 15:37:32 friedBob I mean the indian legend (smile Jan 10 15:37:55 ...and here I was thinking you were talking about the line diagnostic tool. Jan 10 15:37:56 MAN_Hater: Heh. Wasn't sure if you meant that or the car, so assumed the car. Jan 10 15:38:25 <-- Tom^ has quit () Jan 10 15:38:35 --> eelriver (~murp@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:38:50 <-- deufo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 15:39:05 --> Kriss (kriss@kriss.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:40:29 --> grurf (~grurf@sureno.demon.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:41:11 <-- signal has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 15:41:15 Heya eelriver. Jan 10 15:41:25 --> PiterPunk (~punk@200-206-132-181.dsl.telesp.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:41:53 Hi, FriedBob Jan 10 15:42:29 eelriver: How goes today? Jan 10 15:42:57 I don't know yet. Just got up. Haven't had coffee yet Jan 10 15:43:20 It's real early for me too. Jan 10 15:43:21 <-- okmeufilho has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 15:43:37 --> Analyzer (~Analyzer@ts3-a141.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:44:38 using: vector linux 3.2 (slackware 8.1 modification) problem: printing (test page prints perfectly, but abiword and siag want to print using lpr, which isn't installed. test page was printed using apsfilt's interface to ghostscript) question: Which command to use for abiword and siag to print? Jan 10 15:44:40 eelriver: I had maybe 3 hours sleep last night. Jan 10 15:45:06 <-- Analyzer has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 15:45:07 --> okmeufilho (fdsfgjfgh@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:45:27 FriedBob, Yeah, me too from about 2:30 till now. Damn phone. Jan 10 15:45:46 grurf, #vector Jan 10 15:45:55 --> qkit (~qkit@210.186.61.215) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:46:05 <-- DrScream has quit ("changing servers") Jan 10 15:46:28 --> DrScream (servers@multitasking.erzeugt.schizophrenie.computersforpeace.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:47:10 Or #abiword or such. Jan 10 15:47:14 Polleke: They don't respond in the vector channels Jan 10 15:47:46 hey guys...anyone here of kde2html package ? Jan 10 15:47:49 grurf, then go to their support mailing lists, forums or use another distro or find it out yourself Jan 10 15:47:51 here=hear Jan 10 15:47:54 Who the hell calls people at 6:00 in the morning, I'm not on call anymore. Jan 10 15:48:02 brb Jan 10 15:48:03 FriedBob: the problem isn't abiword-specific Jan 10 15:48:09 eelriver: Didn't get off work till almost midnight, then installed SELinux and stuff like that, and got to bed around 0300. Jan 10 15:49:22 grurf: That was forked almost two full major releases ago Jan 10 15:49:33 grurf: No, but it sounds like it could be misconfigured, so it'd be appropriate to ask there, as it very well could be an application level problem and not a system level one. Jan 10 15:51:08 FriedBob, How did that go? Did you get it set up for 10? Jan 10 15:51:20 all I want to know is the command needed to print, probably ghostscript's one. Jan 10 15:51:57 --> Frank-Drebin (1000@adsl-223-99-138.aep.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:52:11 eelriver: Found some packages built specifically for Slack, said it was based on 9.1, but the versions for the patched glibc matched what I had installed on my 10 box, so it's all good. Jan 10 15:52:41 <-- MAN_Hater has quit ("If you are reading this then it exited correctly : If you are not reading this ; then why did I write it ?") Jan 10 15:52:57 Cool, I might have to try that Jan 10 15:53:04 Now just gotta set up my policies and stuff. Jan 10 15:53:46 eelriver: http://www.diyab.net/selinux/ Jan 10 15:54:06 Download the bzip from the mirror w/ the extra docs, it's about twice as fast. Jan 10 15:54:29 and 40mb at 60something is much better than 40mb at 30something Jan 10 15:54:59 Thanks! Jan 10 15:55:25 --> Analyzer (~Analyzer@ts3-a141.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:58:18 grurf, What command do you use for the test page? Jan 10 15:59:58 eelriver: The install.txt on the doc site is a little hard to read, and according to this one item in the mailing list I just read, you should boot to single user w/ enforcement off before you label your system. Jan 10 16:00:53 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:00:59 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-216-76-227-234.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:01:19 eelriver: like I said before, I used the apsfilt interface to set up the printer, apsfilt configures ghostscript Jan 10 16:01:27 --> adjacent (~scott@63.209.153.130) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:02:56 <-- Analyzer has quit ("Quit") Jan 10 16:04:48 --> elwood (~io@ppp-62-11-186-46.dialup.tiscali.it) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:06:27 --> dmi (~dmi@2-3.dialup.lanck.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:07:13 hi. what (usually) handles filesystem automount in slckaware 10.0 and how it could be disabled? Jan 10 16:07:35 dmi: edit your /etc/fstab Jan 10 16:07:52 Or /etc/rc.d/rc/hotplug Jan 10 16:08:02 Err Jan 10 16:08:07 rc.hotplug rather Jan 10 16:08:21 dmi: nothing Jan 10 16:08:22 <-- StevenR has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 16:08:43 grurf, Have you tried lpr? Jan 10 16:08:51 dmi: You basically gotta be using a 2.6.x kernel, Gnome/KDE and hald & dbus, or supermount-ng (but only when the others are not present) Jan 10 16:09:04 eelriver: he said it wasn't installed Jan 10 16:09:09 i made SLAX based livecd and I don't want it to mount anything from hard drives to be able to power down w/o problems Jan 10 16:09:25 using kernel 2.4.26 hotplug and devfsd Jan 10 16:09:47 So what is it, slack10 or Slax? Jan 10 16:09:55 Or some hybrid? Jan 10 16:09:56 Frank-Drebin: does hotplug handle "foreign" filesystem mounting? Jan 10 16:10:13 slax uses installed slack10 Jan 10 16:10:32 That's the automounter Jan 10 16:10:32 yeah, i'd call it hybrid :) Jan 10 16:10:36 When I booted my slax CD, it loaded hotplug and mounted my USB drive when I inserted it. Jan 10 16:10:47 hotplug has nothing to do with remote filesystems or facilities Jan 10 16:10:50 It's all about local hardware Jan 10 16:11:05 FriedBob: USB is not this case actually... hotplug do handle USB, but I'm not sure about say ntfs Jan 10 16:11:31 Dagmar: biggest pain is ext2 and ntfs not menmtioned in fstab Jan 10 16:11:37 Hotplugd scripts don't actually mount anything by default Jan 10 16:11:48 dmi: Why are you still using ext2? Jan 10 16:11:50 <-- Tukon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 16:12:04 Dagmar: how could I know that is automounter and how to disable it permanently? Jan 10 16:12:31 Even /I/ don't use ext2 anymore, and that says a lot, as I'm typically one of the last to upgrade anything. Jan 10 16:12:32 Dagmar: oh, don't ask :) It's all about 2.2 kernels :) Jan 10 16:12:40 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 16:13:01 <-- radiohead has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 16:13:12 dmi: Ouch. The automounter is something I have gotten along with just fine without. Jan 10 16:13:22 --> ptlo (~senko@cmung4157.cmu.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:13:29 I've used supermount-ng a few times for USB keys and CDs but it's kinda bitchy Jan 10 16:13:44 well, doesn't matter. I don't want ext3 filesystems to be mounted to. Digging thru /etc/rc.d/* but don't see where automount is mentioned Jan 10 16:13:52 is it the part of the kernel perhaps/ Jan 10 16:13:59 is devfsd involved? Jan 10 16:14:27 this box is awefully sluggish Jan 10 16:14:32 shouldn't be though Jan 10 16:14:42 <_erik> slax uses devfs? when will people learn Jan 10 16:14:48 No, automounting is it's own thing separate from everything else. Look for the autofs package Jan 10 16:15:06 <-- At0mic_PC has quit ("Client exciting") Jan 10 16:15:28 anyone had issues with speed under slack 10 with nvidia card and triple display? Jan 10 16:15:29 dmi: What, exactly, is it that you're trying to mount? Jan 10 16:15:32 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:15:37 do you know a DESCENT jabber server??!?!?!?! Jan 10 16:15:57 okmeufilho: Lay off the punctuation, please. Jan 10 16:16:56 DESCENT? Havent played that in ages. Jan 10 16:17:07 Tis a good game/series. Jan 10 16:17:23 no signs of autofs Jan 10 16:17:24 Made me spacesick. Jan 10 16:17:43 Dagmar: I'm trying NOT to mount :) Jan 10 16:17:54 dmi: autofs is the name of the package 10.0 shipped it with Jan 10 16:18:07 dmi: _what_ are you trying to not mount then? Jan 10 16:19:27 Dagmar: I see. it should at least have some traces in /etc/rc.d, am I right? Jan 10 16:19:37 Traces of _what_? Jan 10 16:19:46 of autofs Jan 10 16:20:06 No Jan 10 16:20:16 That's live cd ... I don't want it to touch hdd at all Jan 10 16:20:50 Oh wait. You're talking about modifying slax aren't you. Jan 10 16:20:58 --> teleyag (~teleyag@pcp08125753pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:22:02 yeah :) Jan 10 16:22:09 Then you're on your own. Jan 10 16:22:17 Dagmar: I don't see /etc/rc.d/rc.auto* , I don't see /usr/sbin/automounter Jan 10 16:22:33 I am not going to feel the least bit responsible about whatever some amatuers may have done to get Slackware running off a CD> Jan 10 16:22:45 --> _espen (nirox@srv.linux-skolen.org) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:23:04 ;-) Jan 10 16:23:24 dmi: Try #slax or ##slax or such or their mailing lists/forums. Jan 10 16:23:35 I just wanted to ask what handles automounting. Cause I'm out of ideas. Jan 10 16:23:55 They're probably using supermount-ng if they have a 2.4.x kernel Jan 10 16:24:10 ...for flash media and CDs that is. Jan 10 16:24:20 ok, thanks! Jan 10 16:24:21 --> [TK]D-Fender (~joe@4.67.252.216.dsl1.colba.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:24:23 For actual disks, they probably hacked something togeher Jan 10 16:24:49 <-- Tukon has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 16:25:06 nvm I found out how to print now, just use gs but with a lot of options Jan 10 16:25:48 ah, found something in their forum Jan 10 16:25:48 thanks once again! 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Jan 10 17:02:12 <-- elwood has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 17:05:01 sorry slacksec.info Jan 10 17:05:58 --> Dario (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:06:25 does anyone have a silent bootsplash installed? I know how to install a regular bootsplash, but i want to put a silent one for bootup. Jan 10 17:06:33 I have Jan 10 17:07:10 Wie? :) Jan 10 17:08:07 Mit dem tools von der site, einem splash theme das ein silent jpg hat und dem befehl in linux.conf append=spals=silent" Jan 10 17:08:17 splash=silent Jan 10 17:08:36 DieRatte2: See #slacksec Jan 10 17:09:21 thx Jan 10 17:09:22 DieRatte2, I'm not fluent in german but I understood that, let me look at that stuff. Jan 10 17:09:23 :) Jan 10 17:10:15 well, if you aren't why try to talk in it? English is fine for me Jan 10 17:10:31 cos I took one course in U. :p Jan 10 17:10:37 alrite :-) Jan 10 17:10:55 --- A-Acid is now known as AcidChild Jan 10 17:11:47 the "append=spals=silent", i just toss that anywhere in the "bootsplash-1024x768.cfg? Jan 10 17:11:58 (and the theme does support silent) Jan 10 17:12:18 nope in the lilo.conf Jan 10 17:12:26 aha Jan 10 17:12:26 and its splash of course Jan 10 17:12:48 append = "splash=silent" Jan 10 17:13:00 does anyone know the name of the app that emulates a connected terminal ever when the remote term disconnects Jan 10 17:13:04 after your initrd entry Jan 10 17:13:33 (ever == even) Jan 10 17:13:43 DieRatte2, ya. ok. Jan 10 17:13:43 <-- Analyzer has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 17:14:16 AllenOne: screen Jan 10 17:14:34 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:14:41 pingtimeout, cool thats is what I thought, just wanted to make sure Jan 10 17:14:45 DieRatte2, i'm gonna test it. :) thanks much! Jan 10 17:15:10 <-- Dario has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 17:15:10 bootsplash.. what a pain Jan 10 17:15:11 np Jan 10 17:15:21 Its, like, l33t, you know? Jan 10 17:15:33 oh yeah.. l33t Jan 10 17:15:54 annoying is more like it hehe Jan 10 17:16:01 if I wanted bootsplash I would've stuck with Windows :P Jan 10 17:16:15 --> newbien (~c@dyn-host-206.113.40.203.stowetel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:17:05 Well, looks do count Jan 10 17:17:15 yeah, bootsplash gets annoying after a while. I've used it for a while Jan 10 17:17:17 I for one like the boot up text Jan 10 17:17:22 just had fun setting it up Jan 10 17:17:49 i for one am tired of the text bootup. macs have it done very nicely Jan 10 17:17:55 that way I instantly know when I dorked up my config lol Jan 10 17:18:16 but i wish there would be an easier way than bootsplash. too much damn work involved with that Jan 10 17:18:41 ananke, make a bootsplash with text ontop of it Jan 10 17:18:43 ananke: YEah, bootsplash could use a more complete makefile Jan 10 17:19:04 Polleke : i don't want text Jan 10 17:19:10 It's new. Nect versions will be easier Jan 10 17:19:21 any way to install slack 9.1 to a usb compact flash? dunno whether i posted in #slackware or ##slackware last time Jan 10 17:19:35 the project has been abandoned and the author is making a new project doing it in userland Jan 10 17:19:43 Should linux make your cursor turn into a sad penguin if anything goes wrong at boot up? Jan 10 17:19:43 newbien: Pretty much no. Jan 10 17:19:45 :-D Jan 10 17:19:45 --> Dario (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:19:57 AllenOne : that would be nice Jan 10 17:20:10 well, technically it works. I have a silent bootsplash. But the bar doesn't progress. It stays at 0% Jan 10 17:20:31 Dagmar: reasons for not being able to install to a usb compact flash; want to research it to learn more Jan 10 17:20:36 I got a kick out of the "sad mac" when there was issues Jan 10 17:20:36 Dario, that requires some more work setting that up Jan 10 17:20:40 Dario: you left out the important bit where you go through your boot scripts and start wedging in the statements to artificially move the progress meter Jan 10 17:21:11 Dagmar, ahh. That would probably be it. I was wondering how a jpg could detect that stuff.. :) Jan 10 17:21:13 Dario. Me neither. Was to much hassel Jan 10 17:21:14 AllenOne: I think pretty much everyone else but you would prefer if the computer will just tell you what's wrong rather than "making a sad face" and expecting you to dig for it. Jan 10 17:21:48 Dagmar : i would be plenty satisfied with a sad penguin, and ability to switch to a text output of what went wrong Jan 10 17:22:02 yeah the progressbar was quite annoying. Lets wait for a init with threads Jan 10 17:22:11 would make it easy Jan 10 17:22:15 lol Jan 10 17:22:17 DieRatte2, well.. one small step. For now, I should get going to school. I have readings to do and girls to check out. Jan 10 17:22:29 an init with threading Jan 10 17:22:30 heheh Jan 10 17:22:31 Dagmar, lol, I said I was quite happy with the text. Anake wanted the more mac like boot ;P Jan 10 17:22:31 Thats important enuf Jan 10 17:23:07 newbien: But you can install something like Slax to a bootable USB drive. Jan 10 17:23:14 does bootsplash have a way to get ....bypass itself incase you don't want to view it Jan 10 17:23:35 slax is easy to install to usb! Jan 10 17:23:43 I think you have to specify that in the append line or at the prompt before booting the kernel Jan 10 17:23:44 and pretty easy to configure and build modules for too Jan 10 17:23:48 --> solardreamis1 (~twan@dc5146d009.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:23:53 correct Dominian Jan 10 17:23:55 like nosplash Jan 10 17:23:56 aye Jan 10 17:23:57 or something Jan 10 17:24:02 what I figured Jan 10 17:24:10 --> lozlap (root@81.196.207.1) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:24:10 --- nixor sets ban on *!root@* Jan 10 17:24:11 <-- nixor has kicked lozlap from ##slackware (banned: It is very dangerous to IRC as root. Please return under a user account.) Jan 10 17:24:21 I, for one, like my text booting. Bet no one expected me to like that, eh? Jan 10 17:24:29 hehe Jan 10 17:24:34 I just have framebuffer going.. good enough for me Jan 10 17:24:48 text is fine for geeks, but it's just plain ugly, imho Jan 10 17:24:51 If you spend so much time watching it boot that it actually matters, there's probably something wrong with you Jan 10 17:24:54 can anybody help with a permission error I got, I tried everthing I could think off from checking every folder for the files to chmodding the folders again, nothing is working I can;t restart my services for everything I keep getting /usr/local/bin/perl: Permission denied Jan 10 17:25:05 anybody any ideas what could be wtong? Jan 10 17:25:15 FriedBob: yea, checked out all the available distros; want to build my own slack distro on a usb compact flash Jan 10 17:25:16 This is not Windows. We don't need to reboot every 72 hours, or even every 48 days. Jan 10 17:25:20 solardreamis1: did you upgrade the perl package on Slackware or smething? Jan 10 17:25:22 solardreamis1 : uhmm, do you have /usr/local/bin/perl? Jan 10 17:25:34 Dagmar : some people do reboot often. Jan 10 17:25:38 iirc perl should be in /usr/bin Jan 10 17:25:41 perl came with my cpanel Jan 10 17:25:47 solardreams1: What nasty little third-party thing did you just install? Jan 10 17:25:49 cpanel!? Jan 10 17:25:50 and it was upgraded a few days ago abnd worked fine Jan 10 17:25:55 ananke: Did I miss so mething? Jan 10 17:25:56 ehhh cpanel? Jan 10 17:25:59 I got a webserver Jan 10 17:26:04 this is ##slackware.. not #cpanel Jan 10 17:26:12 confusiong Jan 10 17:26:13 Dominian, I know Jan 10 17:26:14 -g Jan 10 17:26:22 <-- okmeufilho has quit ("Vision[0.9.7-SF-010705]: i've been blurred!") Jan 10 17:26:35 does that even work properly with slackware? Jan 10 17:26:38 Dominian, but don;t know where to go anymore, tried almost anywhere Jan 10 17:26:49 Polleke: not to my knowledge Jan 10 17:27:01 solardreamis1: first off... is this YOUR box its on? Jan 10 17:27:09 if so, go to a command prompt and type: which perl Jan 10 17:27:22 if it shows up anywhere but /usr/local/bin then that's the issue Jan 10 17:27:28 root@ns1 [/]# which perl Jan 10 17:27:28 /usr/local/bin/perl Jan 10 17:27:47 ls -al /usr/local/bin/perl Jan 10 17:27:51 --> raindog (~raindog@c-67-171-158-249.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:28:07 solardreamis1: How about tech support for the ISP? Jan 10 17:28:09 Dominian: I don't even have frame buffer, just my text console set to about 132x60 Jan 10 17:28:18 FriedBob: hehe Jan 10 17:28:28 FriedBob: You don't use any window manager do you? Jan 10 17:28:32 Dagmar, I mailed them yesterday and all they said was we rebooted your server great huh Jan 10 17:28:44 solardreamis1: does your ISP even use slackware? Jan 10 17:28:46 Dominian: SOmetimes use screen. Jan 10 17:28:48 solardreamis1: well, call 'em again. That's what you're paying them for Jan 10 17:28:50 FriedBob: ahh Jan 10 17:28:56 Dominian: And emacs. Jan 10 17:29:09 Dominian: But no, I don't have X installed. Jan 10 17:29:12 Dominian, think I'm in the wrong channel yeah Jan 10 17:29:17 Dominian: Look at www.cpanel.net and tell me whether we should bother with that guy. Heh Jan 10 17:29:17 solardreamis1: Yeah Jan 10 17:29:24 solardreamis1, care giving the output of that command Dominian pointed out Jan 10 17:29:27 Dagmar: I'm not messin' with it Jan 10 17:29:27 sorry to bother you all Jan 10 17:29:38 solardreamis1: ls -al /usr/local/bin/perl Jan 10 17:29:43 /bin/ls: unrecognized prefix: do Jan 10 17:29:43 /bin/ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variable Jan 10 17:29:43 /bin/ls: /user/local/bin/perl: No such file or directory Jan 10 17:29:44 maybe we can tell the ISP where the fscked up :) Jan 10 17:29:46 I built the 2.6.7 kernel and copied it over, but I'm getting all kinds of errors at boot up saying 486 should be PENTIUM4 or something like that...did I forget to do a make clean first or something? Jan 10 17:29:52 uhhh Jan 10 17:29:56 Why should we? They dont' support Slackware. Jan 10 17:29:58 I see your problem Jan 10 17:30:01 solardreamis1, relogin Jan 10 17:30:03 --- stmariej_ is now known as ShastaMaroon Jan 10 17:30:04 and if you can't see it.. Jan 10 17:30:08 something is wrong with your eyes Jan 10 17:30:19 <-- Dario has quit ("oh sh!t.") Jan 10 17:30:24 yeah me see lemme check something Jan 10 17:30:27 <-- newbien (~c@dyn-host-206.113.40.203.stowetel.com) has left ##slackware Jan 10 17:30:44 the path is /usr not /user Jan 10 17:31:13 Dominian, yeah guess your eyes bit better then mine :P Jan 10 17:31:35 --> dngr (~dngr@dsl-200-67-143-98.prod-empresarial.com.mx) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:31:51 heh Jan 10 17:32:24 sorry again for bothering you all, I logged in automaticly in here that why :P gonna work on it again Jan 10 17:32:45 np Jan 10 17:32:47 --> jota (~jota@201.243.212.188) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:33:04 Dominian, thnx Jan 10 17:33:40 hha cpanel....nothing like laughing at old messages Jan 10 17:34:10 AllenOne: Except laughing at new ones. Jan 10 17:34:55 <-- schlm has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 10 17:39:51 <-- dwolf has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 17:40:37 <-- tbird has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 10 17:40:57 ...man, guy in the cube next to me is eating chinese food..... Jan 10 17:41:05 and it smells really good Jan 10 17:41:08 --> Lurkan (~Lurkan@201.135.159.181) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:41:13 mug him! :) Jan 10 17:41:18 I'm about to Jan 10 17:41:46 I had a crappy tv dinner for lunch....stupid midnight shift *grumble* Jan 10 17:43:52 --> Alan_Hicks (~alan@wsip-68-101-44-227.mc.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:44:50 <-- LoRez (lorez@lorez.staff.freenode) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 10 17:45:19 Howdy. Jan 10 17:45:45 <-- s0ulslack has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 17:45:53 --> s0ulslack (soul@usr-if-43.rmci.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:48:22 --> Windsurf (~Windsurf@d221-85-216.commercial.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:48:35 i'm doing a ps aux | grep httpd Jan 10 17:48:35 --> quiet (~quiet@209.94.61.52) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:48:48 and i see www is using like 4 or 5 httpd instance. Jan 10 17:48:55 Windsurf : and? that's normal Jan 10 17:48:55 Windsurf: that's normal Jan 10 17:48:59 is that because that many people are surfing the site? Jan 10 17:49:04 no Jan 10 17:49:07 child processes Jan 10 17:49:13 <-- dngr has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 17:49:18 Windsurf : read your httpd.conf Jan 10 17:49:20 apache forks off child processes to help handle server load Jan 10 17:49:30 I know this is totally the wrong place to be asking this, but I'm stuck. Does anyone know of an IRC channel for help with Exchange/Outlook?? Or does anyone in here have good experience with it? Jan 10 17:49:45 ok. trying to track down why it may be slow right now Jan 10 17:49:46 quiet: before I answer... why are you asking...? Jan 10 17:49:48 --> schlm (~schelm@pD9EB8312.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:49:51 <-- solardreamis1 has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 10 17:49:58 ok Jan 10 17:50:10 quiet: Exchange help? Try #/dev/null Jan 10 17:50:13 I'm at work, and we just got a new temp person, I can't get Outlook to connect to Exchange Jan 10 17:50:14 hehe Jan 10 17:50:44 quiet: first things first: start/run type cmd then do ipconfig Jan 10 17:50:50 if you don't have an ip address.. there's your problem Jan 10 17:50:51 that is al fine Jan 10 17:50:57 ping the server Jan 10 17:51:04 i can doa ll that Jan 10 17:51:06 what's that command that lets you see what processors are running and at what intensity? Jan 10 17:51:07 DNS? Jan 10 17:51:10 I guess the help is within outlook Jan 10 17:51:11 Windsurf : top Jan 10 17:51:15 Windsurf: top Jan 10 17:51:16 args? Jan 10 17:51:17 quiet: Can you telnet to port 110 or 143 or 25 on the Exchange server? Jan 10 17:51:20 Windsurf : man top Jan 10 17:51:24 k thanks Jan 10 17:51:31 --> sami_ (~sami@h153n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:51:35 frickin A Jan 10 17:51:38 anytime. i'll tell you to rtfm at no charge Jan 10 17:51:43 lmao Jan 10 17:51:45 T1 is saturated. I hate hosting video streams Jan 10 17:51:53 ananke: need to get a Tshirt with that on it Jan 10 17:52:05 fuzzbawl: bandwidth throttling Jan 10 17:52:12 learn it, use it, love it Jan 10 17:52:14 --> zechim (~lzechim@ravel.cit.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:52:50 ? windows help in a slack channel Jan 10 17:52:57 the world IS ending Jan 10 17:52:58 lol Jan 10 17:53:10 nah.. just hell freezing over Jan 10 17:53:18 --> defile (~defile@unicron.ecr.navy.mil) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:53:30 =P Jan 10 17:53:41 thanks anyways man.. I'm going to keep searching Jan 10 17:53:46 --> Buggaboo (~bug@ut-z-6021.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:53:48 hey people Jan 10 17:54:08 I'm looking for a nice site that has all the switches for the test() if [] conditional stuff. Jan 10 17:54:28 Buggaboo: localhost Jan 10 17:54:54 Buggaboo, man test Jan 10 17:54:54 Specifically `man test` and `man bash` Jan 10 17:55:15 okiedokie Jan 10 17:55:16 --> solardreamis1 (~twan@dc5146d009.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:55:27 thanks Dagmar defile Jan 10 17:55:33 damnit, i turn away for a second, and people use my approach Jan 10 17:56:31 Don't even think about asking for help with your scrambled up colocated non-slackware shell host. Jan 10 17:56:45 <-- FriedBob has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 10 17:57:22 ananke: need to trademark it Jan 10 17:58:31 * foureyes779 w00t's Jan 10 17:59:48 <-- _KAO_ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 18:00:40 Dominian, got any good howto's? Jan 10 18:00:49 on what? Jan 10 18:01:00 bandwidth control Jan 10 18:01:05 eh.. sorry no I don't Jan 10 18:01:11 He doesn't care what. He just wants the hook-up. ;) Jan 10 18:01:23 Our WAN provider fixes that stuff for us Jan 10 18:01:33 I think you can use IPtables to do it Jan 10 18:01:47 I know you can do it on Cisco routers. Jan 10 18:02:46 our isp doesn't even give us read-only access to our router :( Jan 10 18:02:57 Us either. Jan 10 18:03:03 We just tell them "We need this done and done quickly" Jan 10 18:03:05 and they do it hehe Jan 10 18:03:22 hehe Jan 10 18:03:31 then again.. we pay them a LOT of money Jan 10 18:03:33 That's _nice_ Jan 10 18:03:38 So the last thing they want is us being pissed off. Jan 10 18:04:15 <-- Windsurf (~Windsurf@d221-85-216.commercial.cgocable.net) has left ##slackware Jan 10 18:04:21 brb Jan 10 18:04:54 --> signal (~anarky@host69-116.pool8248.interbusiness.it) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:05:42 --> tbird (1000@pcp09788624pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:05:55 --> GhostXz (GXZ@CPE000d88a9ac16-CM001225419a6c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:05:55 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@CPE000d88a9ac16-CM001225419a6c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com Jan 10 18:05:55 <-- nixor has kicked GhostXz from ##slackware (banned: GhostX - op trolling) Jan 10 18:06:11 <-- ptlo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 18:09:01 <-- Lurkan has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 18:09:33 --> buzzedlightyear (~buzzedlig@68-116-50-50.or.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:10:28 --> Lurkan (~Lurkan@201.135.159.181) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:10:35 --> dngr (~dngr@dsl-200-67-143-98.prod-empresarial.com.mx) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:13:47 <-- solardreamis1 has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 10 18:14:28 --> blackbird (~dirk@d142-59-169-167.abhsia.telus.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:14:31 <-- dngr has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 18:15:24 --> dngr (~dngr@dsl-200-67-143-98.prod-empresarial.com.mx) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:15:58 <-- sdogi has quit ("leaving") Jan 10 18:16:10 --> sdogi (~java@84-50-19-253-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:16:31 <-- blackbird (~dirk@d142-59-169-167.abhsia.telus.net) has left ##slackware Jan 10 18:17:32 fred87, you around? Jan 10 18:17:36 --> jose1711 (~jose@195.113.99.254) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:20:40 --> sami__ (~sami@h153n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:22:19 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 10 18:22:24 <-- taortan has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 18:24:22 --> mortal_ (~mortal@ASB08.magbelle.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:24:39 greetings all, I'm having a little trouble w cdrecord Jan 10 18:24:54 mortal_: Greetings. 2.6 kernel? Jan 10 18:25:06 Alan_Hicks, nope Jan 10 18:25:16 nice work on the book btw Jan 10 18:25:17 mortal_: What's the problem? Jan 10 18:25:22 Thanks. :-) Jan 10 18:25:35 alan this doesn't work for some reason Jan 10 18:25:38 cdrecord -v -nofix -eject dev=0,1,0 -audio -pad /home/songs/*.wav Jan 10 18:25:41 afk Jan 10 18:25:44 did they FiNAllY finish that ? Jan 10 18:25:49 <-- tbird has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 10 18:26:06 mortal_: any error message? Jan 10 18:26:30 it gives: cdrecord: No tracks allowed with this option Jan 10 18:26:34 Back. Sorry, phone rang. Jan 10 18:26:43 's ok Jan 10 18:26:52 I don't think I've ever burned an audio cd with linux... Jan 10 18:27:05 heh, common now... Jan 10 18:27:11 try removing pad? Jan 10 18:27:26 mortal_: Past your output to http://axpr.net Jan 10 18:27:31 is there a --dryrun option? Jan 10 18:27:39 cdrecord: No tracks allowed with this option Jan 10 18:28:16 <-- sami_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 18:28:56 I got this directly out of The linux cookbook ...lol Jan 10 18:30:01 <-- quiet has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 18:30:13 <-- AllenOne has quit ("leaving work THANK GAWD!") Jan 10 18:30:22 --> Guse (~Guse@200-215-102-006.jvece7003.e.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:31:36 bloody hell...you'd think they'd at least test the code before they publish it Jan 10 18:31:41 Don't see any such --dryrun option in the man page, so I'm guessing no. Jan 10 18:32:01 mortal_: Likely the Cookbook is an older copy and cdrecord ahs changed since it was published. Jan 10 18:32:19 Alan_Hicks, maybe, but this is the copy on safari Jan 10 18:32:28 i think it's 03 Jan 10 18:32:40 so ...fairly recent Jan 10 18:32:45 Got a link? Jan 10 18:32:59 u got safari? Jan 10 18:33:17 --> boow (~boow@dyn34-ter1-pittsburg.fament.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:33:18 http://safari.oreilly.com/?x=1&mode=section&sortKey=title&sortOrder=asc&view=&xmlid=0596006403/linuxckbk-CHP-11-SECT-12&g=&catid=&s=1&b=1&f=1&t=1&c=1&u=1&r=&o=1&n=1&d=1&p=1&a=0 Jan 10 18:33:28 Oh, no. :-) Was thinking different safari (as in web-browser on OS X). Jan 10 18:33:30 might not work for you Jan 10 18:33:36 I got confused. :-) Jan 10 18:33:44 heh Jan 10 18:34:09 hang on let me check the howto Jan 10 18:34:23 that might have better info than some stupid book Jan 10 18:34:36 the fonts where messed up in firefox in kde does anyone else have this problem an a fix http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/928787/firefox.jpg Jan 10 18:34:37 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:36:07 --- _kop_ is now known as kopcicle Jan 10 18:36:30 --> quiet (~quiet@209.94.61.52) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:37:24 <-- boow has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 18:38:01 --> vurte (~haluk@pD953A8AB.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:39:09 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-209-214-147-235.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:39:23 <-- jose1711 has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 18:39:25 <-- avoca has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 18:39:33 cdrecord dev=1,1,0 -eject speed=2 -pad -audio *.wav Jan 10 18:39:39 used that instead... Jan 10 18:39:44 mortal_: That work? Jan 10 18:39:52 for some reason it's working Jan 10 18:39:59 I hope Jan 10 18:40:20 we'll know in a few minutes Jan 10 18:40:27 --> noise (~chatzilla@p83.129.176.172.tisdip.tiscali.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:40:29 coaster anyone? Jan 10 18:40:37 --> Penguin_ (~Penguin@penguin.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:40:38 Is there GUI MTR for Windows? Jan 10 18:40:41 hehe looks like linuxpackages.net is having some issues. Jan 10 18:40:50 Penguin_: gkrellm Jan 10 18:41:02 Penguin_: monitor right? System monitor? Jan 10 18:41:05 Dominian: You mean like Jim Simmons? ;-) Jan 10 18:41:09 wait Jan 10 18:41:12 Dominian you know wtf mtr is Jan 10 18:41:13 Alan_Hicks: yeah jim Jan 10 18:41:31 Penguin_: Ya know.. I just realized.. your trolling in a linux channel for windows questions Jan 10 18:41:39 I don't have much respect for him. Jan 10 18:41:40 Hello, is the "Boehm-Demers-Weiser garbage collector" included with Slackware? Jan 10 18:41:40 No.. Jan 10 18:41:47 <-- wietze has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 18:41:49 --- sami__ is now known as sami_ Jan 10 18:41:50 Dominian i realized you are clueless. Jan 10 18:41:57 <-- sami_ has quit ("leaving") Jan 10 18:41:58 Alan_Hicks: Eh, he's ok. I do like how slackcare gaurantees their packages Jan 10 18:42:01 Penguin_: uh huh Jan 10 18:42:03 http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/ fyi Jan 10 18:42:20 Penguin_: I'm not the one asking the question Jan 10 18:42:20 is pat gona drop gnome? Jan 10 18:42:20 --> wietze (~weedz@frummel.student.utwente.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:42:26 Dominian stfu. Thanks Jan 10 18:42:30 <-- adjacent has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 18:42:33 I'm just not real impressed with him. He behaves like a jerk and shows no respect to others. Jan 10 18:42:38 Penguin_: Make me. Thanks. Jan 10 18:42:39 --- ChanServ sets mode +f ##slackware #overflow Jan 10 18:42:51 But I'm not going to start any sort of flame war here so, change of subject. Jan 10 18:42:54 Alan_Hicks: this is true Jan 10 18:42:55 children children... Jan 10 18:43:00 True Jan 10 18:43:21 * mortal_ starts singing "We don't need no education..." Jan 10 18:43:26 Alan_Hicks: I've spoken with him in email a few times. He seems like a nice guy; I think a lot of it comes from the fact he has to check all these packages himself hehe. Jan 10 18:44:53 Dominian: He won't return an e-mail from me and has made comments on linuxpackages.net about stuff we did in Slacksec without even speaking with us, or returning polite inquiries as to what his problem with us was. Jan 10 18:45:41 mortal_: That cd didn't burn right for ya? Jan 10 18:46:08 <-- Penguin_ (~Penguin@penguin.user) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 10 18:46:14 --> jmedina (~jmedina@63.70.73.227) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:46:14 Alan_Hicks: ahh yes.. those comments he made about slacksec really pissed me off Jan 10 18:46:25 Alan_Hicks: that's when I stopped submitting my packages to linuxpackages.net Jan 10 18:46:34 Alan_Hicks: I still surf the forums and keep an eye on software getting posted there Jan 10 18:46:38 <-- At0mic_PC has quit ("Client exciting") Jan 10 18:46:41 He's made some pretty derogative (IMHO) comments about Pat too. Jan 10 18:46:47 Alan_Hicks: yeah Jan 10 18:47:32 http://www.userlocal.com/interviews/tg/tg1.php Jan 10 18:47:36 There's a definite lack of QA with LP.net, as well... which is why I won't suggest anybody use it Jan 10 18:47:36 Alan_Hicks, its playing now Jan 10 18:47:42 coolness Jan 10 18:47:43 mortal_: Good work. Jan 10 18:47:56 AthlonRob: I'll point people there.. as most of those packages are really good. Jan 10 18:48:01 Hey Rob, didn't notice you were here. Jan 10 18:48:02 I just don't suggest anyone submit packages Jan 10 18:48:40 Alan_Hicks, I don't think you can tell it to -fix when specifying tracks Jan 10 18:48:41 <-- Cueball has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 10 18:48:46 oops, I accidentally changed all the files in my mounted windows path executables... Jan 10 18:48:58 you have to -fix afterwards I guess Jan 10 18:49:02 I fear it would be *VERY* easy for somebody to plant a malicious package on lp.net Jan 10 18:49:32 anyone got an idea how I can selectively executabilify *.exe's in that path? Jan 10 18:49:40 Alan_Hicks: wow he's pretty egotistical Jan 10 18:49:48 AthlonRob: Agreed, and through no fault of Jim (let's be fair here). No one can check each and every package for proper working or non-maliciousness. Freshrpms and similar sites suffer the same problems. Jan 10 18:49:49 and ready-onlify other files? Jan 10 18:50:10 True, Alan, but the fact that Jim is an ass and it is HIS site... well... :-) Jan 10 18:50:11 Dominian: Yeap. You should read the snooping Rob done over in #linuxpackages. Jan 10 18:50:23 Alan_Hicks: eh? Jan 10 18:50:27 Alan_Hicks: Where's that at? Jan 10 18:50:34 Dominian: PM your e-mail. Jan 10 18:51:01 you get that? Jan 10 18:51:05 --> Cueball (~lee@lb3.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:51:06 yeah Jan 10 18:51:07 Alan_Hicks, have you ever used checkinstall? Jan 10 18:51:08 o wait, dudes nevermind. Jan 10 18:51:08 k Jan 10 18:51:13 nothing happened. Jan 10 18:51:33 mortal_: Yes. It's ok. The jury's still out on it IMO. Jan 10 18:51:56 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-209-214-148-97.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:52:05 I've had problems installing packages across machines w the same setup Jan 10 18:52:11 quite strange if you ask me Jan 10 18:52:36 Alan_Hicks: I think the jury is deliberating on the difference between murder one and murder two in that instance. Jan 10 18:54:03 aight guys I gota pack to head back ...thanks all ...cya Alan Jan 10 18:54:19 Take care, mortal. Jan 10 18:54:29 <-- mortal_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 18:54:35 Alan_Hicks: man.. it's like he's talking out of his ass.. .I swear Jan 10 18:55:52 ahh I see he's in #linuxpackages right now too Jan 10 18:55:52 --> OutpourDCC (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:56:12 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 18:56:27 He idles there 24/7, Dominian Jan 10 18:56:37 yeah I see that Jan 10 18:56:57 door... afk Jan 10 18:56:58 <-- Nomius has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 18:57:12 yeah they are talking about the fact that there's something wrong with lp.net Jan 10 18:57:27 --> Nomius (~Nomius@host220.201-252-192.telecom.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:58:38 --> tbird (1000@pcp09788624pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:58:55 Dominian: Really? Care to make a log? If myself or Rob go in there they're sure to shut up or go to PM. Jan 10 18:58:55 <-- dngr has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 18:59:05 Or kickban us. :-) Jan 10 18:59:19 hehe Jan 10 18:59:23 they've only made one comment.. Jan 10 18:59:27 Oh. Jan 10 18:59:31 and that was: anyone else having problems getting to linuxpackages.net Jan 10 18:59:33 and I said: yep Jan 10 18:59:34 hehe Jan 10 19:00:14 well.. Jan 10 19:00:15 after reading that Jan 10 19:00:21 I'm no longer submitting packages Jan 10 19:00:27 --> nirr (1000@bzq-218-163-219.red.bezeqint.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:00:40 as soon as I can get back on.. I'll delete my account Jan 10 19:01:02 --- nirr is now known as nirz Jan 10 19:01:05 <-- zechim has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 10 19:01:12 Alan_Hicks: Man.. comments like that are what really annoy me. Jan 10 19:01:21 Alan_Hicks: ##slackware is a bunch of efnet wannabes.. wtf? Jan 10 19:01:47 Actually, Alan, I've never emailed Jim myself... unless he noticed me off the slacksec "About Us" page or Pat's card, he probably doesn't know who I am Jan 10 19:01:52 Dominian: It's one thing to be an elitist, it's another thing to be rude and insulting. Jan 10 19:02:12 AthlonRob: He probably knows who you are. Jan 10 19:02:30 --> Done (~konmpoz@ppp15-ax.noc.teithe.gr) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:02:44 <-- Marverick has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 19:02:53 I idled in there for a few weeks... and was never addressed Jan 10 19:03:01 <-- quiet has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 19:03:02 It was funny when he noticed he had more idlers, he didn't have any idea why Jan 10 19:03:06 Between SlackSec, the card (which was finally posted on userlocal.net), AOLS, the Book, we're known. Jan 10 19:03:08 I've asked questions in there and never got an answer Jan 10 19:03:14 Heh. Jan 10 19:03:20 well.. Jan 10 19:03:24 What I thought was funny.. Jan 10 19:03:33 I have a newbie question about fstab, what are the last two digits of each line? Jan 10 19:03:33 is that Piterpunk dealt with slacksec Jan 10 19:03:37 and that kinda pissed off lp.net Jan 10 19:03:53 hmm Jan 10 19:04:00 So did Bruno. Both of them are excellent guys, very Clueful, great Slackers. Was a pleasure to work with them. Jan 10 19:04:03 --> avoca (~avoca@159-134-145-234.as1.mvw.galway.eircom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:04:04 Alan_Hicks: maybe I shoudl mirror lp.net and do a parody.. Jan 10 19:04:21 Alan_Hicks: PiterPunk is a nice guy. Even asked my opinion on the X packages lol Jan 10 19:04:31 Something about the upgraded ones were bad Jan 10 19:04:33 Dominian: Hehe. No, I don't think that would be good PR. Jan 10 19:04:37 can't remember the whole confo Jan 10 19:04:49 Alan_Hicks: PR.. bah.. I'm no affiliated with this channel... yet Jan 10 19:04:55 woot Jan 10 19:04:57 where can i find help about epic4 client? Jan 10 19:05:00 Alan_Hicks: worst thing.. I'd get banned from their channel and lp.net lmao Jan 10 19:05:03 Dominian: I don't recall it all, but they switched their X package for ours after a little while because of a few problems. Jan 10 19:05:13 Hey phrag. Jan 10 19:05:18 Alan_Hicks: Well I know wone had to do with writing to /tmp incorrectly or something.. Jan 10 19:05:20 phrag: oi Jan 10 19:05:32 how class is it when you order something amazing, at 4am in a state, then forget all about it..... Jan 10 19:05:40 phrag: hehe Jan 10 19:05:48 Dominian: Well, to be your good name is the most valuable thing you can have. It's hard to get, easy to loose, and doubly hard to get back. Jan 10 19:05:51 then you come home from your first day at work... and what is sat waiting for you? Jan 10 19:05:56 Alan_Hicks: true Jan 10 19:05:59 --> dngr (~dngr@dsl-200-67-143-98.prod-empresarial.com.mx) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:06:00 Slackware 10.0 ! Jan 10 19:06:06 10.0 or 10.1? Jan 10 19:06:16 oh wait.. you did the subscription thing lol Jan 10 19:06:17 ugh? Is there a new release? Jan 10 19:06:17 what do you think =P Jan 10 19:06:25 so its 10.0 Jan 10 19:06:26 Dominian: yes, i forgot all about it =) Jan 10 19:06:27 --> Lord_Devi (~ld@S01060010b50e8c16.ss.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:06:29 lmao Jan 10 19:06:31 phrag: I didn't Jan 10 19:06:42 and also got some slackware stickers from cafepress Jan 10 19:06:45 mini ones... Jan 10 19:06:56 Did you get the slackwar eplate for your case? Jan 10 19:07:02 Has anyone managed to compile ucspi-tcp-0.88 under slack10? i need it for qmail and for some reason refused to compile =/ Jan 10 19:07:05 phrag, where can i get some slackstickers? hackerstickers.com's paypal thing was down Jan 10 19:07:07 oh yes, 4 =P Jan 10 19:07:14 4?? Jan 10 19:07:18 fax me one hehe Jan 10 19:07:19 buzzedlightyear: cafepress.com do small ones Jan 10 19:07:22 there are cool Jan 10 19:07:24 just got them Jan 10 19:07:27 --> slackem (~w00t@ool-182c5ff6.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:07:28 k thanks Jan 10 19:07:33 they'd look good on my laptop :) Jan 10 19:07:38 :) Jan 10 19:07:38 18 per sheet Jan 10 19:07:40 hello.. Jan 10 19:07:43 oh wow Jan 10 19:07:56 they are 10mmx50mm each sticker Jan 10 19:08:06 so perfect for keyboards, little nooks =) Jan 10 19:08:12 hey im trying to compile 2.6.10 but the 'make' always hangs after like 10 mins or so (old p200mmx) Jan 10 19:08:16 haha they have tux thongs Jan 10 19:08:19 heh, happy days Jan 10 19:08:22 hello everyone! =) Jan 10 19:08:34 slackem: Did you change the processor model in the config? Jan 10 19:08:37 phrag, u got some slack stickers? Jan 10 19:08:39 where from? Jan 10 19:08:42 buzzedlightyear: hackerstickers paypal has been fscked for months Jan 10 19:08:57 Dominian yes + im using .config i saved Jan 10 19:09:00 <-- jrf has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 19:09:04 phrag, yeah...so how are you supposed to order??? Jan 10 19:09:10 i liked their slackware stickers too Jan 10 19:09:12 slackem: .config from what? Jan 10 19:09:16 <-- anhanguera has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 19:09:29 slackem: from an old kernel? Jan 10 19:09:36 i think so Jan 10 19:10:02 slackem: what version kernel did that .config come from? Jan 10 19:10:04 but i compiled 2.6.10 sucessfully before so i think it's from 2.6.10 Jan 10 19:10:11 phrag: man.. could you imagine getting tux tiles and tiling your bathroom in that... Jan 10 19:10:16 slackware stickers.... https://www.cafepress.com/shop/linux/browse/Ntt-slackware_Nao-1_Ntk-All_pv-tinyminds~00.3374483_No-1_N-3533_D-slackware Jan 10 19:10:18 Dominian: oh yes =) Jan 10 19:10:28 Dominian i think it's from 2.6.10 (anyways to check to be sure 100%) Jan 10 19:10:33 slackem: double check all your config options.. if its hanging.. then something must be wrong in the kernel config Jan 10 19:10:35 anyway* Jan 10 19:10:38 AcidChild, buzzedlightyear ^^ Jan 10 19:10:48 phrag, i see a sheet with 18 stickers Jan 10 19:10:59 oh yeah you did say 18 Jan 10 19:11:01 nm :) Jan 10 19:11:04 yes, i got 3 of them Jan 10 19:11:11 have to cut yourself Jan 10 19:11:15 slackem: Well, if you aren't sure.. I'm not sure how to check the .config I usually do make mrproper to clear evyerhing out.. then start over Jan 10 19:11:20 hehe Jan 10 19:11:23 =) Jan 10 19:11:24 Dominian do u think jthat just going through the config will fix the progem? Jan 10 19:11:34 phrag: my truck is the perfect background color for a slackware paint job Jan 10 19:11:39 slackem: possibly Jan 10 19:11:44 has worked for me in the past Jan 10 19:11:45 ta d00d Jan 10 19:11:46 hehe Jan 10 19:11:53 ya i seen em Jan 10 19:11:55 well im gonna give it a try Jan 10 19:11:56 i wana hoody Jan 10 19:11:57 54 mini slack stickers... Jan 10 19:12:01 thanks Dominian Jan 10 19:12:02 4 case badges Jan 10 19:12:05 phrag: go tag people at the mall Jan 10 19:12:07 3 official slack sticker Jan 10 19:12:07 with the slackware lable on the front. Jan 10 19:12:09 slackem: your welcome Jan 10 19:12:12 heh Jan 10 19:12:16 s/your/you're Jan 10 19:12:28 just a lil one Jan 10 19:12:29 Dominian: oh yes, everywhere i lurk will be a slackware sticker =) Jan 10 19:12:36 i dont wana look too geek :P Jan 10 19:12:44 phrag: hehe if you know someone with a windows server.. tag it with a slack sticker.. see how they react Jan 10 19:12:46 i do! Jan 10 19:12:49 \o/ phrag Jan 10 19:12:58 Dominian: work tommorrow! =P Jan 10 19:13:09 AcidChild: you forgot the pom-poms ~\o/~ Jan 10 19:13:13 heh, one on the atm... Jan 10 19:13:14 phrag: hehehe Jan 10 19:13:15 hahaha Jan 10 19:13:19 cool. Jan 10 19:13:30 this channel is allways fun Jan 10 19:13:33 smokey time =) Jan 10 19:13:34 heh...sneak up to bill gates car back in redmond and put one on his bumper Jan 10 19:13:45 hmmmm Jan 10 19:13:47 man the people in #s*se are bitchers Jan 10 19:13:47 buzzedlightyear: chowned Jan 10 19:13:54 buzzedlightyear: you just gave me a new mission Jan 10 19:14:05 AcidChild: we are a happy lot Jan 10 19:14:11 ya man :D Jan 10 19:14:16 that'd be great...whoever could/would do that would be the man Jan 10 19:14:20 hehe Jan 10 19:14:22 the people in #s*se are just soooo newbee Jan 10 19:14:24 buzzedlightyear: get video of it Jan 10 19:14:32 i am on suse atm :( Jan 10 19:14:35 i feel dirty Jan 10 19:14:39 if i lived there i totally would do it. Jan 10 19:14:43 i must wash Jan 10 19:14:44 AcidChild, so am i Jan 10 19:14:51 well u need to wash too Jan 10 19:14:54 novell linux desktop actually Jan 10 19:14:55 blasphemy!! Jan 10 19:15:03 YES!! Jan 10 19:15:04 :( Jan 10 19:15:08 some one slap me. Jan 10 19:15:11 * AcidChild slaps himself Jan 10 19:15:14 * slackem slaps AcidChild Jan 10 19:15:15 much better now Jan 10 19:15:18 thx Slack_Rox Jan 10 19:15:18 AcidChild: why, or just choice ? Jan 10 19:15:24 * slackem Jan 10 19:15:32 well u asked for it Jan 10 19:15:38 well ya Jan 10 19:15:43 i am saying thx :) Jan 10 19:15:45 phrag, well. Jan 10 19:15:50 coz i got this laptop. Jan 10 19:15:51 i can tell it worked by the chipped tooth Jan 10 19:15:54 and it wanted somthing on it Jan 10 19:16:03 quick Jan 10 19:16:10 but i am doing LFS based on slackware :D Jan 10 19:16:17 <-- Done (~konmpoz@ppp15-ax.noc.teithe.gr) has left ##slackware Jan 10 19:16:53 oh, nice Jan 10 19:16:53 ~\o/~ \o/ Jan 10 19:16:54 at work our network is all novell so novell linux desktop fits the environment Jan 10 19:16:54 ~\o/~ \o/ (*)`\o/`(*) Jan 10 19:16:54 ROFL!! Jan 10 19:17:10 =/ Jan 10 19:17:13 i hate suse Jan 10 19:17:19 i feel so diry using it Jan 10 19:17:26 i like novell so i'll use suse now Jan 10 19:17:28 What's with all the AOLness? Jan 10 19:17:39 Ya know.. I hate people who say "Linux still has it's problems" Jan 10 19:17:40 ROFL. Jan 10 19:17:47 * AthlonRob was wondering if he landed in an AOL Chat Room Jan 10 19:17:50 pffttt Jan 10 19:17:51 then you ask them "explain to me one that you know of that's a security issue in comparison to windows" Jan 10 19:17:54 slackware rules Jan 10 19:17:55 then you get dead silence. Jan 10 19:17:56 end of story Jan 10 19:17:57 Dominian: Linux still has it's problems. :-) Jan 10 19:18:04 --> DexterF (~dexter@pD9FF2404.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:18:05 Alan_Hicks: youd idn't let me finish :P Jan 10 19:18:05 hi Jan 10 19:18:21 Alan_Hicks: In comparison to Windows security issues... name off one that's a bigger threat in Linux. Jan 10 19:18:21 say "aye" if u think slackware rules? Jan 10 19:18:22 All OS's have their problems. Jan 10 19:18:25 Aye!! Jan 10 19:18:36 --> fskn (~chino@pcp09995929pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:18:47 omg u people dont think slackware rules. Jan 10 19:18:48 :o Jan 10 19:18:49 cant i install mac .bin's ? Jan 10 19:18:55 ... Jan 10 19:18:57 uhh no Jan 10 19:19:06 mac != linux Jan 10 19:19:14 PPC != x86 Jan 10 19:19:20 oh Jan 10 19:19:23 somebody here using the 2.6.10 kernel and k3b 0.11.17 from current? can't write data dvds anymore, get: unable to PREVENT MEDIA REMOVAL: Operation not permitted Jan 10 19:19:27 brb got to do my colect my washing from around my room OMG Jan 10 19:19:29 i thought mac could run on x86 ? Jan 10 19:19:29 AcidChild: Stop acting like a noob with all this "OMG u ppl dont think slackware is da bomb" stuff. Jan 10 19:19:36 DexterF: I think you need 0.11.18 Jan 10 19:19:38 Alan_Hicks, sssshh. Jan 10 19:19:47 fskn, Darwin, the kernel, can run on x86 somewhat... but OS X cannot run on x86 Jan 10 19:19:50 Dominian: ok, ill try Jan 10 19:19:56 i am alowed. Jan 10 19:20:04 i am 15 and on drugs Jan 10 19:20:17 AthlonRob: Why do you want to run OS X on x86? Jan 10 19:20:19 fskn: there's an emulator called PearPC which can run MacOSX to a certain degree tho Jan 10 19:20:37 Alan_Hicks, I've heard OS X is a nice OS... Apple hardware is expensive... :-) Jan 10 19:20:38 i just wanted to run mac version of ie Jan 10 19:20:41 I've actually heard good (and bad of course) things about PearPC. Jan 10 19:20:44 <-- MacGuyver_ has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 19:20:45 AthlonRob: oh they are nice Jan 10 19:20:53 AthlonRob: G5 notebooks.. I drool over Jan 10 19:20:57 AthlonRob: You heard right. Jan 10 19:21:00 apple is pushing out a inexpensive hw now soon Jan 10 19:21:08 AcidChild: grow up. quit drugs. Jan 10 19:21:10 fskn: I'll believe it when I see it Jan 10 19:21:18 they think it will have a market becuase of there ipod doin so well Jan 10 19:21:22 fskn: You read Cringley's idea about pushing commodity Apple hardware at a loss? Jan 10 19:21:23 A $500 Apple is tempting Jan 10 19:21:29 well the ipod doesn't = a PC Jan 10 19:21:35 yea you guys read the article Jan 10 19:21:43 heh we read everything Jan 10 19:21:50 well they said they didn't believe in anything being cheap Jan 10 19:21:53 DexterF, I waz kidding Jan 10 19:21:57 man pfftt. Jan 10 19:21:57 lol Jan 10 19:22:06 AthlonRob: Fly over here and you can play with my iBook for free. :^) Jan 10 19:22:23 but if I fly over there, I'm out like $400 right off the bat Jan 10 19:22:45 I like 'em Jan 10 19:22:46 maybe when I'm down in the area this June for that TDY :-) Jan 10 19:22:52 I think they are sweet machines.. but I'm not shelling out the cash for them either Jan 10 19:22:56 Sure thing. Jan 10 19:23:22 G5 notebooks are quiet too Jan 10 19:23:31 Alan_Hicks, is your notebook a G3 or G4? Jan 10 19:23:37 Dominian: The iBooks aren't really that expensive. They're at a comporable cost with anything but the uber lowe end Dells. Jan 10 19:23:40 <-- three_11 has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 10 19:23:44 Dominian: Are no G5 notebooks. Jan 10 19:23:46 Alan_Hicks: ahh Jan 10 19:23:49 AthlonRob: 800Mhz G4. Jan 10 19:23:52 Alan_Hicks: well G4.. I know what I meant lol Jan 10 19:23:53 Nice, okay Jan 10 19:24:16 This 12" iBook gets a minimum of 4 hours battery life in constant use. Jan 10 19:24:29 I'm lucky to get two hours out of this thing now Jan 10 19:24:36 it's almost two years old now, though Jan 10 19:24:47 <-- buzzedlightyear has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 19:24:49 no, I think it's OVER two years old now Jan 10 19:25:07 I'm lucky to get 20mins out of mine Jan 10 19:25:20 it's been to Mississippi and back, too... shipped, on a plane, dropped, etc... it's been abused Jan 10 19:26:42 <-- Shuren has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 19:27:00 --> Rodrix (~t7DS@200.230.116.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:27:04 <-- Rodrix (~t7DS@200.230.116.10) has left ##slackware Jan 10 19:27:56 "can i open a bank account?" "yes, one min plz" *tapping on keybaord* "computer says no" Jan 10 19:27:58 hehe Jan 10 19:28:17 lil briton RULES \o/ Jan 10 19:28:30 it does Jan 10 19:28:34 :)) Jan 10 19:28:44 phrag, "computer says no" Jan 10 19:28:46 What in tarnation is lil briton? Jan 10 19:29:02 comedy program Jan 10 19:29:11 --> Shuren (~Devilman@host167-171.pool8256.interbusiness.it) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:29:15 * AthlonRob thinks we need to get AcidChild an AOL account Jan 10 19:29:26 heh Jan 10 19:29:29 Oo Jan 10 19:29:35 how about stfu AthlonRob :) Jan 10 19:29:36 --> lozlap (awx@82.76.44.123) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:29:41 * Alan_Hicks thinks we need to get AcidChild into rehab or special learning. Jan 10 19:29:47 true Jan 10 19:29:49 how do i do that /etcx/localtime thing so i can update the time Jan 10 19:29:49 ? Jan 10 19:29:49 calm down a bit AcidChild please Jan 10 19:29:54 <-- dngr has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 19:29:56 and do not tell users to stfu Jan 10 19:30:14 phrag, but man what am i ment to do when this guy keeps talking... Jan 10 19:30:16 j/k :) Jan 10 19:30:24 lozlap: What exactly do you mean? Jan 10 19:30:33 --> dngr (~dngr@dsl-200-67-143-98.prod-empresarial.com.mx) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:30:34 --> newbie^ (0@81.213.137.151) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:30:34 --- nixor sets ban on *!0@* Jan 10 19:30:35 <-- nixor has kicked newbie^ from ##slackware (banned: It is very dangerous to IRC as root. Please return under a user account.) Jan 10 19:30:35 --> StevenR (~foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:30:47 Hi Steven Jan 10 19:31:00 i want to use ntpdate time.nist.gov Jan 10 19:31:00 AthlonRob: Wrong channel. :-P Jan 10 19:31:03 evening AthlonRob Jan 10 19:31:09 phrag -:||:- http://www.foofoo.co.uk/modules.php?set_albumName=Ash&id=Mattslouandandy&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php Jan 10 19:31:10 but it does not corectly updates the time Jan 10 19:31:11 :( Jan 10 19:31:14 nuh-uh, Alan_Hicks, he's here too :-) Jan 10 19:31:15 Oops. :-) I'm an asshat everyone. Jan 10 19:31:37 lozlap: So what happens when you run that? Jan 10 19:31:51 Alan_Hicks it updates a incorrect time Jan 10 19:32:09 lozlap: So it gives you something in the wrong timezone? Jan 10 19:32:22 no Jan 10 19:32:32 eermm. Jan 10 19:32:35 weird. Jan 10 19:32:35 cam i have that paste link ? Jan 10 19:32:36 * AthlonRob thinks Alan_Hicks has far more patience than I at the moment Jan 10 19:32:45 http://axpr.net Jan 10 19:32:56 damn, Alan_Hicks, typing my own URL faster than me :-P Jan 10 19:33:00 * Alan_Hicks is the king of patience. Jan 10 19:33:07 Dominian: .18 didnt help. bugger. Jan 10 19:33:19 * Alan_Hicks is the king of speedy fingers too. Jan 10 19:33:31 one needs patience in here sometimes Jan 10 19:33:46 *sigh* Jan 10 19:33:58 http://axpr.net/?show=106 Jan 10 19:34:21 does fdisk have somthing to resize a partition? Jan 10 19:34:27 or is that parted? Jan 10 19:34:36 AcidChild : fdisk only creates and destroys partitions Jan 10 19:34:41 kk Jan 10 19:34:43 --> althalus (~althalus@c-67-170-176-30.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:34:59 can i resize a partion i am using? Jan 10 19:35:09 hmm, on slack10 disk it says NEW! Optional high-eperformance 2.6.7 Linux Kernel upgrade included Jan 10 19:35:14 so any help ? Jan 10 19:35:49 evening phrag Jan 10 19:36:03 think 2.6.7 was included as it was the 2.6 stable at the time, or that pat actually considered 2.6.7 specifically stable enough Jan 10 19:36:10 how do StevenR =) Jan 10 19:36:23 lozlap, what does time-update do? Jan 10 19:36:38 lozlap: Never run into anything like that before. Have you tried a different ntp server, like pool.ntp.org? Jan 10 19:36:51 <-- Caveman has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 19:37:19 ananke: care to comment ? Jan 10 19:37:41 I'm confused, I've never seen "w" output like that before Jan 10 19:37:57 <-- fskn has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 19:38:39 <-- At0mic_PC has quit ("Client exciting") Jan 10 19:38:50 --- nixor removes ban on *!root@* Jan 10 19:39:17 Alan_Hicks it was something with cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Bucharest /etc/localtime Jan 10 19:39:23 thx anyway solved my problem Jan 10 19:39:24 google Jan 10 19:39:26 actually, that was a question aboce, despite the lack of ? Jan 10 19:39:44 s/aboce/above Jan 10 19:40:03 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Toronto-ppp296109.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:40:05 <-- Ahil (~Ahil@213.240.224.47) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 10 19:40:07 ok, k3b issue closer to resolving: as root everything works fine. Jan 10 19:40:39 <-- seberino__ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 19:41:19 lozlap: Google knows all. What was the matter? Jan 10 19:41:59 <-- lozlap has quit ("!") Jan 10 19:42:06 I usually symlink /etc/localtime Jan 10 19:42:07 * phrag takes ignorance on the chin Jan 10 19:42:14 <-- spacey`ki has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 19:42:23 <_erik> pats kernels include just about everything but the kitchen sink, good for booting/installing on just about any machine. after that i pull a fresh one from kernel.org and build it with only the stuff i need. and the 2.6's have been rock solid for me on several machines. Jan 10 19:42:38 same for me, _erik Jan 10 19:42:55 although Pat's 2.4 kernels never worked on a few boxes of mine Jan 10 19:42:56 * Alan_Hicks isn't a 2.6 fan. Jan 10 19:42:56 _erik: thankyou very much, nice of someone to reply =) Jan 10 19:43:14 phrag, if I had to guess, I'd say he used 2.6.7 because it was what was 2.6 stable at the time Jan 10 19:43:38 Yeah, Alan_Hicks, we know... we'll get you converted soon enough, though :-) Jan 10 19:43:43 I must have missed something. What's the 2.6.7 question? Jan 10 19:44:02 think 2.6.7 was included as it was the 2.6 stable at the time, or that pat actually considered 2.6.7 specifically stable enough Jan 10 19:44:29 i missed ?.... my bad, looked like a statement =P Jan 10 19:44:41 --> maddler (~maddler@195.110.158.19) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:44:45 It was what was latest at the time, and reasonably stable enough. Had security fixes over earlier releases and Pat doesn't like patching the kernel. Jan 10 19:44:59 thankyou Jan 10 19:45:11 2.6.10 then when router comes Jan 10 19:45:13 --> spacey`ki (~ki@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:45:14 2.4.27 at the moment Jan 10 19:45:52 I'll be moving to 2.6 after there's a stability release in 2.6 _after_ 2.7 comes out, or when the kernel devs get their heads on straight and stop breaking shit. Jan 10 19:45:56 --> spacey_ki (~ki@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:46:08 hmm Jan 10 19:46:24 <-- avoca has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 19:46:30 2.6.10 is nice Jan 10 19:46:35 s/on straight/out of their asses/ Jan 10 19:46:43 2.6 has quite some quality issues, huh? Jan 10 19:46:46 course ive been running 2.6.x pretty much every release since 2.6.1 Jan 10 19:46:53 sadsfae: breaks dvd writing here Jan 10 19:46:55 DexterF: IMHO, definately. Jan 10 19:47:05 DexterF, well yah and cdwriting i have to do as root Jan 10 19:47:16 cdrecord still doesn't work for mortal users for example. Jan 10 19:47:17 other than that, i have no issues Jan 10 19:47:17 --> spacey`lap (~ki@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:47:19 <-- spacey`ki has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 19:47:20 I, too, have been running 2.6 without any problems... their development model seems to be working for me, anyway Jan 10 19:47:21 <-- spacey`lap has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 19:47:22 the new security issues, the disc writing woes, other little annoyances... Jan 10 19:47:27 i've never ran it, nor udev which i will when i go 2.6 Jan 10 19:47:46 <_erik> burning was fixed in 2.6.9 (and wasn't all that big of a problem, some tools still worked as non-root, like cdrdao) Jan 10 19:47:53 DexterF, other than cdwriting i havent had any issues and performance is noticeably better than 2.4.x Jan 10 19:47:53 DexterF: In all fairness, a few of the recently discovered vulnerabilities for 2.6 affect 2.4 as well. Jan 10 19:48:04 --> mykilx (mykilx@wbar10.tmp1-4-12-150-251.dsl-verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:48:04 --> okmeufilho (cxvvxcvdsf@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:48:26 _erik: You sure? I'll ahve to check that. I thought it was still SNAFUd. Jan 10 19:48:34 since im going to get me a dvb-t card soon i'll eventually have to go bleeding edge, so they better root out those disc write issues. root out, heh. Jan 10 19:48:42 Alan_Hicks: I use 2.6.9.. burning works great Jan 10 19:48:46 Alan_Hicks: true, yes. Jan 10 19:49:00 it isnt an issue Jan 10 19:49:03 Then my apologies. Jan 10 19:49:03 <_erik> no, it's fine. like i said, it wasn't even a real problem (well, burning audio cd's were a problem for some reason) Jan 10 19:49:05 oi Jan 10 19:49:07 :D Jan 10 19:49:16 sadsfae: ok, performance is usually better. not xine tho. eats 30% cpu where it took 15 or less on 2.4 Jan 10 19:49:17 been drinking some beer Jan 10 19:49:17 its one maintainers stubborn reliance in adhereing to some security thing Jan 10 19:49:20 <_erik> which was only in 2.6.8(.1) Jan 10 19:49:31 DexterF, why use xine? its a pos compared to mplayer Jan 10 19:49:35 first day of school and me and my buddy worked so hard so we celebrated with beer Jan 10 19:49:35 hehe Jan 10 19:49:45 ... Jan 10 19:49:51 <_erik> early on i went back to 2.4 for about 2 weeks, was like slamming into a brick wall Jan 10 19:49:52 sadsfae: xine is good Jan 10 19:49:54 tewmten: In class of course, right? Jan 10 19:49:55 even if you don't like it Jan 10 19:50:05 troll Jan 10 19:50:08 sure, but i just prefer mplayer Jan 10 19:50:16 and did you compile xine from source or was it binary package Jan 10 19:50:24 yeah sure.. like whatever you want. just don't bash what you don't like Jan 10 19:50:25 sadsfae: i see it exactly the other way round. mplayer makes me hurl. Jan 10 19:50:25 Alan_Hicks: he had found a nice place with cheap good beer, so we went there right after school Jan 10 19:50:26 <_erik> especially if you got p4+ht, smt and elevator scheduler enabled.. mmm Jan 10 19:50:32 --> ceL0ry (cel@69-165-57-90.clvdoh.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:50:36 <-- ceL0ry (cel@69-165-57-90.clvdoh.adelphia.net) has left ##slackware Jan 10 19:50:40 --> ceL0ry (cel@69-165-57-90.clvdoh.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:51:05 DexterF, compile mplayer from source, use --cache 8129 and it outperforms any media player ive ever used by a long shot Jan 10 19:51:14 i dont like the have-to-have-gui-front-end for xine Jan 10 19:51:19 gonna get some dinner now Jan 10 19:51:20 bye Jan 10 19:51:36 <-- Frank-Drebin has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 19:51:40 sadsfae: aaxine :P Jan 10 19:51:56 i rebooted a minute ago due to ls, rm, etc was segmentation faulting when i tried to run it, after i rebooted and tried to boot the same kernel i was using (2.6.9) it hangs at proc on /proc type proc (rw) and won't go any farther, what could it be? Jan 10 19:52:02 fred87: Nice of you to join us. Jan 10 19:52:11 ? Jan 10 19:52:16 ceL0ry, bad media? faulty ram? Jan 10 19:52:21 sadsfae: yeah. as long as you don't use the gui. then it takes the power of jesus to perform acceptable. that is - if the gui didn't segfault because you pressed a button on it or so. Jan 10 19:52:21 <_erik> mplayer's great, will play damn near anything. gotta fall back to xine once in a while, for dvd menus Jan 10 19:52:28 fred87: Just saying "Howdy" in a different way. Jan 10 19:52:33 --> viLeR (~miv@aurora.telesat.com.co) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:52:37 sadsfae: isn't it intresting that mplayer can't even switch subtitles or audio tracks on the fly ? Jan 10 19:52:38 :) Jan 10 19:52:43 sadsfae: and that mplayer doesn't even know dvd menus Jan 10 19:52:44 i dont own a dvd player so guess thats why i never use it Jan 10 19:52:49 sadsfae, bad media? its not faulty ram i booted a livecd and it ran fine Jan 10 19:52:51 nor do i Jan 10 19:53:01 i mounted the partition and tried ./ls in it and it would still segfault Jan 10 19:53:08 alan_hicks, i feel guitly... ordered new wireless card, second seagate barracuda, and GeForceFX 6800 today :| Jan 10 19:53:09 i love mplayer, but still think xine has its good points Jan 10 19:53:11 mako-sama, why the mplayer h8? i didnt say anythig about dvd's Jan 10 19:53:18 fred87: You bad boy! Jan 10 19:53:18 <-- schlm has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 19:53:26 was talking about general media playback, and mplayer kicks ass at that Jan 10 19:53:28 that's what my debit card's saying Jan 10 19:53:43 sadsfae: tell me one medium mplayer can play xine can't. Jan 10 19:53:47 sadsfae: just for you to note, i don't even have xine installed. mplayer is perfect for me Jan 10 19:53:48 you remind me of that alleged gnome/DLgnome dev that freaked out when i said gnome is slow and clunky Jan 10 19:53:57 <_erik> wmv9dmo Jan 10 19:54:06 <_erik> rstp streams Jan 10 19:54:14 DexterF, raw avi streams Jan 10 19:54:18 dexgt Jan 10 19:54:30 now.. xine isn't perfect Jan 10 19:54:34 and so is mplayer Jan 10 19:54:45 <_erik> x264 Jan 10 19:54:46 <_erik> snow Jan 10 19:54:55 i personally prefer mplayer, but i'd get pissed if i see someone bashing xine Jan 10 19:54:55 DexterF, or a file thats half downloaded, like say a .ok extention, but yet to be fully copied and renamed, mplayer will play those, i havent been able to get xine to Jan 10 19:55:07 rstp streams is real's bloody business. if they think they have to hide the actual url in some wrapper file, it's not xine's or anyone elses fault but theirs it wont work. providing xine with the real rstp url btw works *just fine* Jan 10 19:55:09 i didnt bash anythuing i said i prefer mplayer over xine, and i dont care for xine Jan 10 19:55:11 so what Jan 10 19:55:15 <_erik> lots of great expermintal codecs that outperform mpeg4(divx/xvid/etc) by a long shot. no support at all in xine Jan 10 19:55:24 if that makes you mad i hate to see what happens when soemeting that matters happens.. like your car catches on fire Jan 10 19:55:25 sadsfae: xine plays half done vids fine here Jan 10 19:55:29 or your daughter gets knockd up Jan 10 19:55:30 heh Jan 10 19:55:36 <-- ceL0ry (cel@69-165-57-90.clvdoh.adelphia.net) has left ##slackware Jan 10 19:55:52 _erik: what do i need codecs for nobody uses? Jan 10 19:55:56 sadsfae: what ? you want me scroll up and paste you when you said that xine is POS ? Jan 10 19:56:10 nope, i said its a piece of shit? does that really make you angry? Jan 10 19:56:21 <-- nirz has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 19:56:35 _erik: and what is wmv9dmo supposed to be? Jan 10 19:56:49 <_erik> windows media with drm Jan 10 19:57:04 <_erik> rtsp is live.com btw, not real Jan 10 19:57:13 btw mplayer for windows isnt half bad either Jan 10 19:57:18 sadsfae: so if i was a xine developer, you wouldn't expect me to get angry when you say xine is pos ? Jan 10 19:57:32 <-- blackhat-- has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 10 19:57:48 <_erik> rtsp:// isn't a wrapper file, it's a transport protocol Jan 10 19:57:49 no i would expect any normal human being to understnad its possible for someone not to like their product for whatever reason, and it doenst have to make sense to you Jan 10 19:58:17 if i make spaghetti ... and you dont like it? do i cry? Jan 10 19:58:27 not liking is one thing, and saying POS is another Jan 10 19:58:31 nah, i just shrug it off and say its becuase some ppl have different tastes Jan 10 19:59:05 Could we stop the "my penis is bigger than yours 'cause I use xine|mplayer" stuff already? Jan 10 19:59:17 xine is a pos, i dont like it Jan 10 19:59:20 :( Jan 10 19:59:30 _erik: rtsp is a general protocol both real and live.com seem to use. couldnt care less - it works. Jan 10 19:59:35 <-- tbird (1000@pcp09788624pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net) has left ##slackware Jan 10 19:59:46 --> newbie^ (1000@81.213.137.151) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:59:57 Fair enough. Everyone's got their opinion and no one else here really cares what you two think of mplayer, xine, and each other. Take it elsewhere, like PMs. Jan 10 19:59:57 afk Jan 10 20:00:02 and .rm usualy contains a rtsp link - thats a wrapper to me Jan 10 20:00:10 or .ram or wtf ever Jan 10 20:00:17 i was done talking about it like 50 lines of text ago Jan 10 20:00:30 sigh Jan 10 20:00:31 hi friends i live some problems i use slackware, i cant hear voice from my xmms.. i wanna play mp3s =( ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No such file or directory Jan 10 20:00:35 what can i do? Jan 10 20:00:35 =( Jan 10 20:00:40 <-- OutpourDCC has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 20:00:47 newbie^: set permissions on your sound device Jan 10 20:00:53 check juhl's faq Jan 10 20:00:55 --> Outpour (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:01:05 The Book really needs a section on sound... Jan 10 20:01:05 i use kernel 2.6.10 Jan 10 20:01:10 (unless outdated) Jan 10 20:01:13 i cant hear as i were root Jan 10 20:01:15 doesnt matter Jan 10 20:01:16 too DexterF Jan 10 20:01:26 cant hear or didnt play? Jan 10 20:01:30 didnt play? Jan 10 20:01:35 i couldnt play Jan 10 20:01:46 same error? sound card properly conf'ed? Jan 10 20:01:49 newbie^: have you recompiled alsa when you installed the new kernel ? Jan 10 20:02:21 mako-sama, okay now im removing alsa than i ll install it again but Jan 10 20:02:31 --> MANOWAR^ (~MANOWAR^@druid.cse.sc.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:02:40 i dont know how can configure that Jan 10 20:02:42 newbie^, before you do that Jan 10 20:02:44 newbie^, do this Jan 10 20:02:50 newbie^, as root chmod 777 /dev/dsp Jan 10 20:02:55 chmod 777 /dev/mixer Jan 10 20:03:00 chmod 777 /dev/pcm Jan 10 20:03:03 then try Jan 10 20:03:23 there is no mixer directory on there.. Jan 10 20:03:23 newbie^: Before doing that, are you running in runlevel 3 or 4? Jan 10 20:03:31 if u can play audio as root but not normal user thats why, if you dont have those dev entries then go with mako-sama recommendation Jan 10 20:03:31 3 Jan 10 20:03:34 you need to recompile alsa.. you really didn't expect the old modules to work with the new kernel. right ? :) Jan 10 20:03:40 newbie^, do you have /dev/dsp Jan 10 20:03:42 --> ndev (~naren@jffwpr07.jf.intel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:03:44 Then there's no need to chmod anything. Jan 10 20:03:44 no Jan 10 20:03:47 --> fskn (~chino@pcp09995929pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:03:49 ok then nvm Jan 10 20:03:50 i dont have that directories Jan 10 20:04:20 root@kaoxgen:/mnt/hard1/mp3archive/favourite# ls /dev/dsp Jan 10 20:04:20 ls: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory Jan 10 20:04:28 how do i remove a line from output ? im using cut to get a field but there is one empty line on top what other command could i use to only get the last line of the output ? Jan 10 20:04:31 expected. Jan 10 20:04:36 then disregard what i said and go with prev. recommendations Jan 10 20:04:49 fskn: Go to http://axpr.net and show us exactly what you mean. Jan 10 20:04:52 fskn: tail -n 1 Jan 10 20:04:56 oya tail Jan 10 20:05:13 you guys are great Jan 10 20:05:27 root@Linux:/home/silence/public_html# ls -lh | cut -f 6 -d " " Jan 10 20:05:27 639K Jan 10 20:05:29 thats what i ment Jan 10 20:05:40 Oh ok. Jan 10 20:05:43 --> tbird (1000@pcp09788624pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:05:45 brb.. smoke run Jan 10 20:05:49 theres one line above the 639K because of total line from ls -lh Jan 10 20:06:03 mako-sama, where can i find alsa source for recompile it? Jan 10 20:06:05 639K? Jan 10 20:06:10 size of file Jan 10 20:06:12 ls -lh Jan 10 20:06:13 Hold up a second, Alan, he's not pasting 639K at axpr.net :-P Jan 10 20:06:14 i searched on google there are different sources=( Jan 10 20:06:24 newbie^, its probably a binary package so you would need to get alsa sources from /source dir on FTP or alsa site Jan 10 20:06:28 which one is suitable for my 2.6.10 kernel Jan 10 20:06:32 newbie^: alsa-sound.org or osmthing like that Jan 10 20:06:36 okay Jan 10 20:06:36 --> seberino (~seberino@seberino.spawar.navy.mil) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:06:37 not sure :p Jan 10 20:06:50 AthlonRob: You shouldn't make it publically available then! Jan 10 20:06:50 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 20:06:55 newbie^, newest will be fine, just make sure to "removepkg" your older alsa packages Jan 10 20:07:04 is there a while loop ? Jan 10 20:07:07 ok Jan 10 20:07:12 im removing that Jan 10 20:07:26 --> Outpour (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:07:34 newbie^: it's alsa-project.org Jan 10 20:07:34 newbie^, you can get packages from slackware.com Jan 10 20:07:44 Alan_Hicks, it's moving to the new server when it's up..... Jan 10 20:07:52 AthlonRob: That's fine. Jan 10 20:08:00 Polleke: not for linux 2.6.10 Jan 10 20:08:00 :-) Jan 10 20:08:28 no? Did Pat did not make them yet? Jan 10 20:08:47 Polleke: Nope. Jan 10 20:09:13 ah k, well newbie^ grab the source package and use the slackbuild script from the slackware source Jan 10 20:09:35 make sure you also have the kernel source package installed Jan 10 20:09:42 newbie^: After modifying the SlackBuild to tell it what kernel version to use. Jan 10 20:09:58 im getting tgz files from slackware's ftp Jan 10 20:10:04 than i ll install them Jan 10 20:10:07 you don't need to Alan_Hicks Jan 10 20:10:08 heh Jan 10 20:10:24 Polleke: Really? I thought you did. Well I be derned. Jan 10 20:10:26 Alan_Hicks, it's building based on the kernel headers Jan 10 20:10:37 newbie^, what exactly are you downloading? Jan 10 20:11:11 yep Jan 10 20:11:12 =P Jan 10 20:11:41 wget yep Jan 10 20:12:06 hehe Jan 10 20:12:35 mehhh, it doesn't work phrag. Plzzzz help me Jan 10 20:12:42 heh Jan 10 20:13:37 there s not packet like alsa-utils on slackware's ftp i was remove that too Jan 10 20:14:14 newbie^, _what_ are you downloading? Jan 10 20:14:32 alsa lib alsa driver and alsa oss Jan 10 20:14:33 you need the kernel source package from 2.6.10 Jan 10 20:14:34 packets.. Jan 10 20:14:46 i have that Jan 10 20:14:52 i compiled that.. Jan 10 20:14:59 will i add something as module? Jan 10 20:15:07 talk to me Polleke hit me Jan 10 20:15:16 ahhh, you did not install a binary kernel Jan 10 20:15:22 --> three_11 (~three_11@69-163-15-87.kntnny.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:15:31 i used menuconfig Jan 10 20:15:33 then, you can just compile the ALSA modules from the kernel source, they are included Jan 10 20:15:40 anyone know a good tutorial for setting up a printer? Jan 10 20:15:45 newbie^: btw, small point but packet != package Jan 10 20:15:49 three_11: tldp Jan 10 20:15:53 ;DD Jan 10 20:15:54 tldp.org Jan 10 20:15:56 ok phrag Jan 10 20:16:04 =) Jan 10 20:16:15 newbie^, so open menuconfig and look for the alsa menu Jan 10 20:16:20 --> floppielx (~floppielx@dsl-80-46-52-225.access.as9105.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:16:29 ok Jan 10 20:16:31 there is an alsa menu in 2.6? Jan 10 20:16:33 can anyone recommend me a linux floppy based distro (similar to blueflops) which contains usb mass storage drivers? Jan 10 20:16:34 k Jan 10 20:16:34 ty Jan 10 20:16:40 welcome Jan 10 20:17:54 drivers -> sound -> alsa Jan 10 20:18:21 yeah, I'm sure you know ALSA has been included since 2.6 Jan 10 20:18:23 there soundcard support Jan 10 20:18:26 (*) Jan 10 20:18:40 oss support should be disabled Jan 10 20:18:41 floppielx: loaf ? Jan 10 20:18:46 i cant see anything about alsa Jan 10 20:18:50 <-- StevenR has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 20:18:55 <-- fskn (~chino@pcp09995929pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) has left ##slackware Jan 10 20:19:14 there are oss mixer, oss pcm Jan 10 20:19:16 floppielx: there are distributions for putting on / booting from usb fobs Jan 10 20:19:53 newbie^, grrrr, ALSA stands for "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture" Jan 10 20:19:57 I made my USB key bootable Jan 10 20:19:57 and that's in there Jan 10 20:20:00 it boots INSERT Jan 10 20:20:05 ok im on there Jan 10 20:20:40 newbie^, pick both oss ones as yes Jan 10 20:20:49 --- nixor removes ban on *!*@CPE000d88a9ac16-CM001225419a6c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com Jan 10 20:21:45 oss mixer oss pcm and oss sequencer Jan 10 20:21:48 i choosed them Jan 10 20:21:56 than i choosed my pci AC97 Jan 10 20:21:58 card too Jan 10 20:22:02 is it enouhg? Jan 10 20:22:06 --> _kop (~trillian@64-40-46-157.nocharge.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:22:12 <-- Cirkit has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 20:22:39 yes, choose that one as module Jan 10 20:22:49 ok Jan 10 20:23:20 ok, compile and install the modules. Prepare your kernel and reboot Jan 10 20:23:26 anyone got a good wine tgz to spare me the lib-hunting and compilation? Jan 10 20:23:29 dont' forget lilo -v Jan 10 20:23:30 make modules && make modules_install Jan 10 20:23:31 --> tvn (~tvn@pcp0010250125pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:23:46 --> Ava3ar (~ava3ar@user-3939.l4.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:23:58 i ll back back soon Jan 10 20:24:01 =P restarting.. Jan 10 20:24:03 <-- newbie^ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 20:24:20 sigh, he did not make Jan 10 20:24:32 <-- Reeb|zor (~mactop@pcp01339669pcs.wilog101.pa.comcast.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 10 20:24:49 we'll suggest chmod -x /sbin/shutdown Jan 10 20:24:55 <-- tvn has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 20:25:04 hehe Jan 10 20:25:18 <-- althalus has quit () Jan 10 20:25:18 Polleke: just point them to the kernel compilation tutorial on slackwiki.org Jan 10 20:25:19 --> acidkill_ (1000@user-0c90it8.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:25:29 :O Jan 10 20:25:55 <-- deckmar has quit ("brb reboot") Jan 10 20:26:43 * DexterF reboots 2.6.7 Jan 10 20:26:45 <-- DexterF has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 20:26:52 banzaii Jan 10 20:27:05 <-- floppielx (~floppielx@dsl-80-46-52-225.access.as9105.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 10 20:28:07 tewmten: tune in Jan 10 20:28:12 --> newbie^ (1000@81.213.137.151) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:28:30 ok Jan 10 20:28:35 it didnt worked man it gives me the same error, ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No such file or directory Jan 10 20:28:42 url again? I'm a bit alcoholized.. Jan 10 20:28:48 <-- okmeufilho has quit ("Vision[0.9.7-SF-010705]: i've been blurred!") Jan 10 20:28:48 cant remember Jan 10 20:28:55 it doesnt play i added oss mixer pcm sequence as modu?le Jan 10 20:29:01 newbie^, did I tell you to reboot? Jan 10 20:29:04 http://phra.gs/grime Jan 10 20:29:11 i rebooted Jan 10 20:29:12 <-- acidkill has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 10 20:29:19 newbie^, and did I tell you to do so? Jan 10 20:29:23 heh Jan 10 20:29:32 i compiled Jan 10 20:29:35 modules than Jan 10 20:29:37 i rebooted Jan 10 20:29:44 phrag: gotcha Jan 10 20:29:46 did you do lilo -v before you rebooted? Jan 10 20:29:48 newbie^, you just made your modules, why would you want to reboot for modules Jan 10 20:29:48 how did u tell me? Jan 10 20:30:19 Polleke: I keep forgetting you don't need to reboot for modules lol Jan 10 20:30:27 newbie^, did you actually ever did anything with lilo? Jan 10 20:30:31 no Jan 10 20:30:34 =P Jan 10 20:30:35 im sorry Jan 10 20:30:45 ever? after you compiled your kernel? Jan 10 20:30:45 i typed lilo -v Jan 10 20:30:46 now Jan 10 20:30:52 no ididnt Jan 10 20:30:53 phrag: hm, something doesn't sound right.. Jan 10 20:31:04 phrag: I forgot to turn up the bass, it was down all low :-| Jan 10 20:31:05 newbie^, then you never started to run your new kernel Jan 10 20:31:06 --> crackerjack (1000@ip5452b530.speed.planet.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:31:07 tewmten: phrag is actually streaming his farts to the 'Net now Jan 10 20:31:08 heh Jan 10 20:31:11 newbie^, do uname -r Jan 10 20:31:22 root@kaoxgen:/usr/src# uname -r Jan 10 20:31:23 2.6.10 Jan 10 20:31:37 --> assdebuger (~assdebuge@200.171.26.251) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:31:37 phrag: I thought about streaming a web cam.. that all it is ... live shots of a toilet Jan 10 20:31:50 class Jan 10 20:31:54 oh yeah Jan 10 20:32:01 phrag: make the meta search tags all porn. Jan 10 20:32:04 then you did copy your kernel image to /boot and runned lilo once newbie^ Jan 10 20:32:06 see how much hate mail I'd get Jan 10 20:32:10 of course Jan 10 20:32:11 <-- assdebuger (~assdebuge@200.171.26.251) has left ##slackware Jan 10 20:32:16 i did them Jan 10 20:32:23 i added my kernel to lilo.conf Jan 10 20:32:43 newbie^, now. Do make in your kernel source Jan 10 20:33:24 Polleke, i choosed oss mixer and sequence as module Jan 10 20:33:30 do i need it? Jan 10 20:33:39 i did make modules && make modules_install Jan 10 20:34:03 no you don't need a sequencer. And I said to compile the oss stuff into the kernel Jan 10 20:34:15 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 20:34:18 yeah! Jan 10 20:34:22 mike skinner Jan 10 20:34:44 and do 'make' it will generate your kernel (why o why did they remove bzImage from the Makefile) Jan 10 20:34:55 kelvin schmelvin am well within my limit, hold on these mushrooms just kicked in.. Jan 10 20:34:55 Polleke: I don't think they did.. Jan 10 20:34:57 *nanana* Jan 10 20:35:05 Polleke: actually... bzImage and modules are all part of make now Jan 10 20:35:12 iirc Jan 10 20:35:26 Dominian, haven't tried 2.6.10, running 2.6.9. But heard they removed bzImage Jan 10 20:35:40 u heard wrong Jan 10 20:35:43 there is bzimage Jan 10 20:35:43 Polleke: probably did Jan 10 20:35:51 --> padx (~padx@80-219-27-84.dclient.hispeed.ch) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:35:51 it is only too late, my body was trying to say 'you better stop drinking brandy' Jan 10 20:35:57 *nananan* Jan 10 20:35:57 newbie^, ok, do: make bzImage Jan 10 20:35:59 and problem is not about sequence and i installed oss and mixer Jan 10 20:36:11 --> chemfire (~0a080e0f@zeus.bw.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:36:33 root@kaoxgen:/usr/src/linux-2.6.10/arch/i386/boot# ls bzImage Jan 10 20:36:35 bzImage Jan 10 20:36:52 --> Marverick (~slack4eve@201.11.181.42) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:37:23 newbie^, no, 'make bzImage'. Ofcourse that file is present, you compiled before. We want to recreate it to add the new changes Jan 10 20:37:45 it s making automatic like 2.6.9 u dont need type make bzimage Jan 10 20:37:48 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Ottawa-ppp323880.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:37:56 and it s not about our problem Jan 10 20:38:23 newbie^, help yourself. Seems like you all know it better. I've other stuff to do Jan 10 20:38:43 <-- kopcicle has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 20:38:52 thank u for helping Polleke but we couldnt do it.. Jan 10 20:39:03 i added needed modules Jan 10 20:39:09 if you would just listen... Jan 10 20:39:41 Polleke: Take heed what I suggested earlier hehe Jan 10 20:40:13 Polleke, u are newbie like me Jan 10 20:40:15 =P Jan 10 20:40:16 --> spenser (~spenser@user-0c8hmse.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:40:21 i cant help me.. Jan 10 20:40:29 i need a \guru\ Jan 10 20:41:05 newbie^: Umm Polleke can actually get his kernel to work. Jan 10 20:41:13 whatever newbie^. http://slackwiki.org/Kernel_Compilation Jan 10 20:42:27 <-- noise has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041107]") Jan 10 20:43:02 anyone know what the " is in html markup off the top their head? :-) Jan 10 20:43:21 eh Jan 10 20:43:24 it's a quote Jan 10 20:43:27 that's all it is Jan 10 20:43:38 You mean "? Jan 10 20:43:51 that might be it :-) thanks Dagmar Jan 10 20:43:55 So far as I know it's not necessary to use the entity for that. Jan 10 20:44:20 --> Frank-Drebin (1000@adsl-223-99-138.aep.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:44:27 eh Jan 10 20:44:28 I misunderstood Jan 10 20:44:41 You have to use them for greater-than (>), less-than (<), and ampersand (&) for obvious reasons, but nothing else really. Jan 10 20:44:51 yeah Jan 10 20:45:08 need it for this input form :-) Jan 10 20:45:10 works too, thanks Jan 10 20:45:24 well, it's clean to have copyright signs and reletated as entity aswell Jan 10 20:45:53 --> frogger^ (redmonkey@J23ee.j.pppool.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:47:04 --> poolio (~poolio@pcp279080pcs.owngsm01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:47:41 --> thr1ce (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:47:52 <-- MANOWAR^ has quit ("Jesus is coming! Hide the PORN.") Jan 10 20:48:16 what is the current update for today...? Jan 10 20:48:48 Santa Clause isn't coming to tow Jan 10 20:48:50 n Jan 10 20:49:58 my second questin is about dropline gnome.. when i started to X as root, on the desktop i can see icons but when i started it as a user i couldnt see icons.. i tried installpkg /var/cache/dropline-installer/* as root but i didnt work Jan 10 20:50:02 how can i fix it Jan 10 20:50:19 No support for dropline here...that I know of. Jan 10 20:50:24 newbie^, dropline isn't supported here Jan 10 20:50:33 try #dropline Jan 10 20:50:54 <-- Frank-Drebin has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 20:51:26 <-- duardo has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 20:52:09 blat blat Jan 10 20:52:23 phrag, am i missing a -current update today...? Jan 10 20:52:29 mine still says jan 3 =\ Jan 10 20:52:37 was there a change to the changelog? Jan 10 20:52:41 no Jan 10 20:52:44 --> eelriverlt (~murph@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:52:46 according to /topic Jan 10 20:52:51 last change was Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC Jan 10 20:52:56 thr1ce: than you aren't missing anything Jan 10 20:53:11 what was it? Jan 10 20:53:15 * Alan_Hicks wonders back in after eating and burps. Jan 10 20:53:25 kdebindings... Jan 10 20:53:29 <-- frogger^ has quit () Jan 10 20:53:30 bittornado was updated in /extra Jan 10 20:53:31 is pat on a different time zone? Jan 10 20:53:38 and taglib Jan 10 20:53:43 PST Jan 10 20:53:44 thr1ce: he's in California... Jan 10 20:53:45 ok...think i've got them Jan 10 20:53:48 so.. PST Jan 10 20:53:50 Pat Simple Time Jan 10 20:53:55 hehe Jan 10 20:53:57 lol Jan 10 20:54:04 erm Pat Slackware TIme i mean =P Jan 10 20:54:11 lol Jan 10 20:54:15 More like Pat's Secret Time, as in when the next release will be. Jan 10 20:54:18 bha Jan 10 20:54:24 I see Stable still hasnt' bene updated since Oct. 31 Jan 10 20:54:33 <-- solsTiCe has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 20:54:33 i translate to UTC as it is the easiest for most to work out Jan 10 20:54:46 i don't think there will be stable updates Jan 10 20:54:48 just 10.1 Jan 10 20:54:50 UTC == GMT, and most know their GMT+- Jan 10 20:54:55 phrag: while you're at it.. translate it to UTC and a 24 hour time table.. really mess with people Jan 10 20:54:56 yeah Jan 10 20:55:00 thr1ce: You may be right. Jan 10 20:55:09 <-- poolio has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 10 20:55:21 thr1ce: no.. its in his interest to update stable as well as -current as not everyone will switch right over to 10.1 Jan 10 20:55:24 Dominian: Bah! Just put it all on the Aztec calendar. Jan 10 20:55:31 Alan_Hicks: YES! Jan 10 20:55:44 --> lockige (~rob@client-82-14-71-73.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:56:12 thr1ce: there are people still using 9.1 hehe Jan 10 20:56:19 eew Jan 10 20:58:22 cups is required for printing right? Jan 10 20:58:29 it helps Jan 10 20:58:53 I finally realized why it's hard for me to get another job Jan 10 20:58:53 Dominian, i'm still using 8.0 and 8.0.47 :-P Jan 10 20:59:00 so, what's the deal sandy? Jan 10 20:59:03 Most jobs want 5 years experience and I only have 3 years in the field.. BAH! Jan 10 20:59:08 fuzzbawl: for what..? Jan 10 20:59:17 fuzzbawl: oh.. slack lol Jan 10 20:59:38 hehe Jan 10 20:59:49 winblows 8.0! it's l33t! Jan 10 20:59:56 lol Jan 10 21:00:12 fuzzbawl: reminds me of a kid about 6 or 7 years ago who said he invented talk and ytalk Jan 10 21:00:14 can you use a sky plus remote on a normal digibox? Jan 10 21:00:43 Shaun2: no Jan 10 21:00:46 <-- AcidChild has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 21:00:54 lame Jan 10 21:01:04 could have got one on ebay for £2 Jan 10 21:01:07 brand new Jan 10 21:01:14 i didn't know eterm had a pre-built slackware package Jan 10 21:01:15 that's nice Jan 10 21:01:25 thr1ce: even it if didn't.. I'd build my own :P Jan 10 21:01:45 Shaun2: actually... now i'm not so sure. the freq for the normal sky buttons like numbers & power are prob. the same, it's anything more than that it gets tricky Jan 10 21:01:47 --> harryvv (~noyb@S010600055d210201.vs.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:01:47 i have both sitting in front of me Jan 10 21:01:52 the .tgz is tough to resist! Jan 10 21:01:57 --> sdogi_ (~java@84-50-17-238-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:02:08 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 21:02:09 i dont mind if i cant use the extra buttons, which is obvious Jan 10 21:02:22 does the newest slack have a install option of installing xwindows when its started? Jan 10 21:02:23 I really hate when there is good software, but the development is slow or just non-existent Jan 10 21:02:24 true. Jan 10 21:02:35 but the remote looks nicer Jan 10 21:02:43 :p Jan 10 21:02:43 and was cheaper Jan 10 21:02:43 harryvv: all versions of slack, iirc, allow you to install window managesr. Jan 10 21:03:01 Dom, I dont recall its been 7 years since using slack. Jan 10 21:03:05 brb Jan 10 21:03:06 <-- thr1ce has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 21:03:21 Shaun2: http://www.beststuff.co.uk/sky_plus_remote.htm "operates sky and sky+ boxes" Jan 10 21:03:32 harryvv: You have the ability to install window managers during install.. yes Jan 10 21:03:39 harryvv: even a chance to pick your default window manager Jan 10 21:03:50 nifty Jan 10 21:03:51 hope the auction's still open Jan 10 21:03:53 shame its ended now Jan 10 21:03:54 harryvv: full install is 3GB.. I just install everything... makes sure that I get what I want.. then I remove what I don't want later Jan 10 21:03:56 thers lots of em there though Jan 10 21:04:24 i was gonna say something heartwarming about freeview.. but words failed me Jan 10 21:04:43 Dominian, mmm yea going to. Personally would like more then one lab machine :) Jan 10 21:04:49 harryvv: hehe Jan 10 21:04:53 <-- Marverick has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 21:05:00 you like freeview? Jan 10 21:05:05 harryvv: Slackware 10 is very nice.. very fast.. and very stable. Jan 10 21:05:12 slack and knopix just came from cheapbites so no mo posibility of burn errors. Jan 10 21:05:16 --> TheBeast (~betzivu@dsl-66-225-165-10.vianet.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:05:24 harryvv: I was a dedicated Mandrake fan till my rpm database took a dump on me and I got pissed off and went back to Slack ;) Jan 10 21:05:38 --> nologo (~nologo@Quebec-HSE-ppp3614945.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:06:14 i have a very new box which has a nice menu - i dig the program progress barchart action Jan 10 21:06:30 Dom, im running mandrake right now dont like its funny urpmi context. Does slack still use gzip to decompress files and the traditional make make install ? Jan 10 21:06:35 heh cool Jan 10 21:06:45 but freeview doesnt have as many channels Jan 10 21:06:51 or does it use a script of its own. Jan 10 21:07:03 harryvv: yes Jan 10 21:07:12 harryvv: and you can use slackpacks which are of *.tgz format Jan 10 21:07:28 harryvv: pkgtool, makepkg, installpkg, upgradepkg, explodepkg Jan 10 21:07:35 sometimes my memory eludes me :) Jan 10 21:07:38 harryvv: I build all my packs myself. Jan 10 21:07:44 --> OutpourDCC (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:07:46 yeah. whenever i visit my parents i get sucked into the sky thing. still, i get repeats of judge judy and you cant ask for more than that ;) Jan 10 21:07:52 my remotes nackered, none of the keys have writing on them anymore Jan 10 21:08:01 and it hasnt had a battery cover for as long as i can think back Jan 10 21:08:03 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 21:08:10 heh: that's the WAY of remotes Jan 10 21:08:21 Shaun2: always sucks when that happens... good thing is.. your guests that come over can't take over remote controller commander cause they don't know the layout hehe Jan 10 21:08:22 last sky remote i used the '1' key was completely inoperable Jan 10 21:08:23 the batteries keep falling out Jan 10 21:08:32 then it forgets how to control tv Jan 10 21:08:45 --> rh0` (~rolando@host-205-241-35-189.acelerate.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:08:51 Shaun2: Scotch tape works great as a batter cover Jan 10 21:09:00 s/batter/battery Jan 10 21:09:14 Dominian: i remember i used to keep my gameboy together with a bit of cerealbox and some masking tape - smooth running Jan 10 21:09:26 LOL Jan 10 21:09:27 lockige: I use duct tape on mine Jan 10 21:09:33 lockige: till the display finally fried Jan 10 21:09:36 ya br0ke it Jan 10 21:09:39 lockige: then I blew it up Jan 10 21:09:40 hehe Jan 10 21:09:42 lol Jan 10 21:09:56 had a friend who lived in the country... so we were always blowing stuff up Jan 10 21:10:01 I shot that one with a 12 gauge shotgun Jan 10 21:10:08 <-- SlackFart has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 21:10:16 my gameboy is still fully operable.. maybe i should dig it out. that pirate "1000 games" cartridge was incredible... all 10 games worked :) Jan 10 21:10:24 hehe Jan 10 21:10:26 smoke break Jan 10 21:10:37 lol Jan 10 21:10:51 'the batteries in your remote controller are low' Jan 10 21:11:07 don't tell me it talks? Jan 10 21:11:17 why on earth would you want a new one? Jan 10 21:11:22 it comes up on the screen when you press a key Jan 10 21:11:39 --> SlackFart (~el_fart0@dc51468581.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:11:43 --> Marverick (~slack4eve@201.11.181.42) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:11:54 --> solsTiCe (~solsTiCe@d213-103-39-27.cust.tele2.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:12:06 neat Jan 10 21:12:10 --> Sklet (~Sklet@200.118.115.240) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:12:10 :O Jan 10 21:12:44 but its a wreck Jan 10 21:12:52 so will try and get another for a few quid on ebay Jan 10 21:12:53 elementary question: how do i mount an ntfs drive as rw? Jan 10 21:13:08 maybe i should sell my knackered gameboy on ebay... Jan 10 21:13:21 <-- newbie^ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 21:13:39 read-write? Jan 10 21:13:48 yeh Jan 10 21:14:14 last time i checked, ntfs write support was limited to changing a file, but keeping its exact same size Jan 10 21:14:15 <-- sdogi has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 21:14:17 or something Jan 10 21:14:41 I should have stayed with slack from the begining would have 7 years of experaince using it :) Jan 10 21:14:43 --> thr1ce (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:14:58 hm...can't get Eterm transparent :-\ Jan 10 21:15:20 <-- OutpourDCC has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 21:15:34 <-- jorgito has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 21:15:57 hmm. my thunderbird settings are perfect in windows, i was hoping now i got slack working again i could somehow r/w the windows mailboxes, settings, etc. Jan 10 21:16:02 --> Outpour (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:16:29 bah Jan 10 21:16:33 flu :(( Jan 10 21:17:06 fever, blabla :( Jan 10 21:17:08 t'aww Jan 10 21:17:17 lockige: just port your profile Jan 10 21:18:00 --> zomtec (~zomtec@p50810458.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:18:05 <-- TaQ has quit ("gone!") Jan 10 21:18:06 lockige, You can export them from thunderbird, I don't think you need r/w to do that, just ro Jan 10 21:18:33 <-- crackerjack has quit ("cannot reads it's own interrupt.. damn brains of mine..") Jan 10 21:18:38 As long as slack is rock solid stable that all i care about. Jan 10 21:19:03 --> McDutchie (~martijn@inlv.demon.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:19:27 harryvv: slack is rock solid. at least that's my opinion Jan 10 21:19:45 <-- zomtec has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 21:20:01 and mine Jan 10 21:20:35 I tried all major distros. but Slackware fits best. Jan 10 21:21:00 but it'll mean downloading pop mail twice, right? Jan 10 21:21:20 harryvv, It is as long as you do things the "slackware way", if you try to take short cuts with upgrading and stuff like that it's like whittling away at the legs of a table to keep it from wobbling. Jan 10 21:21:20 yep Jan 10 21:21:28 what you do lockige Jan 10 21:21:35 is use linux as main os Jan 10 21:21:44 i dont have tb set up in windows any more Jan 10 21:21:44 :P Jan 10 21:22:05 <-- [TK]D-Fender has quit () Jan 10 21:22:23 --> DexterF (~dexter@pD9FF2404.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:22:44 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:23:12 can somebody with k3b 0.11.17 or 18 and a dvdwriter do me a favor and tell me owner/perms of /dev/writer and /usr/bin/growisofs ? Jan 10 21:24:24 --> xemon (~zxemon@65.171.164.98) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:25:11 those of you with a printer installed, is it /dev/usb/lp0 ? Jan 10 21:26:17 <-- lockige has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 21:30:59 . Jan 10 21:31:23 <-- tbird has quit ("leaving") Jan 10 21:31:37 three_11 yah Jan 10 21:32:13 <-- ximpul has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 21:32:25 ah. k3b working again in 2.6.7 Jan 10 21:32:51 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:32:53 and insecure. Jan 10 21:32:53 <-- chemfire has quit ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") Jan 10 21:32:59 ? Jan 10 21:33:05 if a normal user can write cds with cdrecord, they can send any scsi command to any scsi drive Jan 10 21:33:10 or ide-scsi drive Jan 10 21:33:34 cdrecord doesn't use the proper methods. hence it borks under 2.6.8 and higher which have patched security hole Jan 10 21:33:39 --> MadMartin (router@BSN-77-233-145.dsl.siol.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:33:40 you mean like pass low level commands and bypass any file permissions? Jan 10 21:33:52 yah Jan 10 21:33:54 DexterF: Yes. Jan 10 21:33:55 or flash drive bios Jan 10 21:33:56 hmm. Jan 10 21:34:11 ok. i see the point. Jan 10 21:34:25 but dvd writing doesn't use cdrecord but growisofs. same there? Jan 10 21:34:37 no idea Jan 10 21:35:04 fred87, hmm Jan 10 21:35:44 --> tvv (~tvv@193.23.122.22) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:36:13 oh fsck forgot to compile db4 with -fPIC Jan 10 21:36:17 <-- viLeR has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 21:37:01 ok, need little help here... when i start a program that runs full screen it's picture is only seen on the left side of the screen Jan 10 21:37:04 everything else is black Jan 10 21:37:08 anyone had such thing? Jan 10 21:37:11 i'd inquire the kernel ml, but i always feel like that is too less of a question to address to the kernel hackers. Jan 10 21:37:20 fred87, are you able to cat 'textfile' > /dev/usb/lp0 ? Jan 10 21:37:31 sdogi_: entire left half? what prog? Jan 10 21:37:48 DexterF: no, very few of the left half Jan 10 21:37:55 OT: ok, half-life 2, worthwhile purchase or no? Jan 10 21:38:00 DexterF: right now doom legacy... actually i have this with lot of programs Jan 10 21:38:03 fuzzbawl: hell yes. Jan 10 21:38:03 three_11 cat 'textfile' | lp-cups Jan 10 21:38:18 --> hala (~kaloyan@spfwsaiac01.securepop.ch) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:38:22 DexterF: i didn't figure it out then and well, actually i can't find anything helpful right now either Jan 10 21:38:28 o Jan 10 21:38:36 <-- PiterPunk has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 10 21:38:47 lol, chinese-eyes is banned. Jan 10 21:39:32 sdogi_: wine? cedega? native? Jan 10 21:39:51 what the crap Jan 10 21:39:56 "Media tray empty!" Jan 10 21:40:02 any idea what that means? Jan 10 21:40:03 DexterF: native Jan 10 21:40:18 --> geko (~oito@adslsapo-b5-210-228.telepac.pt) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:40:21 sdogi_: uh huh. sounds like graph driver issues. NV or ATi closed src? Jan 10 21:40:32 hehe, sis 300/305 Jan 10 21:41:04 most of the things work but some, only some won't work... right now i'm trying to compile legacy doom from source but they have made it quite hard Jan 10 21:41:08 --> zomtec (~zomtec@p50810458.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:41:35 sdogi_: where can i get the src? what X version do you run? Jan 10 21:42:17 three_11: is it an audio cd? Jan 10 21:42:37 x.org 6.7.0 Jan 10 21:42:54 <-- MadMartin has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 21:43:01 Dominian, print job :P Jan 10 21:43:08 thats what cups is saying Jan 10 21:43:09 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 21:43:12 oh Jan 10 21:43:14 out of paper maybe? Jan 10 21:43:26 no Jan 10 21:43:43 pc load letter Jan 10 21:43:44 :p Jan 10 21:44:00 wtf is pc load letter Jan 10 21:44:04 * three_11 loves office space Jan 10 21:44:06 taking about paper Jan 10 21:44:06 <-- maddler has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 21:44:07 sdogi_: maybe check out 6.8.1? Jan 10 21:44:08 --> maddler (~maddler@195.110.158.19) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:44:18 --> adjacent (~scott@63.209.153.130) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:44:22 DexterF: http://sourceforge.net/projects/doomlegacy Jan 10 21:44:26 three_11: pc load letter.. error... I'd check to make sure there is paper in the printer Jan 10 21:44:32 no no Jan 10 21:44:35 im quoting a movie Jan 10 21:44:36 hehe Jan 10 21:44:41 --> dwolf (~unknown@dwolf.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:44:50 --- nixor removes ban on *!0@* Jan 10 21:44:54 gah going to have to recompile kdemultimedia Jan 10 21:44:57 i definitely have paper Jan 10 21:45:09 fred87, any ideas on why i get W [10/Jan/2005:15:39:06 -0500] [Job 1] Media tray empty! Jan 10 21:45:17 three_11: ohhhhh Jan 10 21:45:23 Dominian, lol Jan 10 21:45:30 <-- zomtec has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 21:45:46 three_11: it's good to be a gangster Jan 10 21:45:49 <-- adjacent has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 21:45:51 heh Jan 10 21:45:52 DexterF: i'll try Jan 10 21:46:00 sdogi_: 10.0 or current? Jan 10 21:46:29 three_11: you have the right driver for your printer configured? Jan 10 21:46:29 <-- padx (~padx@80-219-27-84.dclient.hispeed.ch) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 10 21:46:44 DexterF: 10.0 Jan 10 21:47:09 i wonder if it needs glibc upgrade too Jan 10 21:47:39 looks like i have some good news...no, its not about car insurance.. =) Jan 10 21:47:41 --> UQlev (~yuriy@ykulyev.logos.cy.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:47:44 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:47:48 hm, 6.8.1 is only in current, but when the issue bugs you so much, building from src might be worth a shot. fast machine? Jan 10 21:47:53 i may no longer be a bum... Jan 10 21:47:55 2GHz takes about an hour Jan 10 21:47:57 i have a job. =) Jan 10 21:48:26 --- acidkill_ is now known as acidkill Jan 10 21:48:27 jobs are good Jan 10 21:48:28 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 21:48:47 --> Outpour (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:48:47 lemme guess its not customer relations, right? Jan 10 21:48:49 <-- slackem has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 21:48:52 nvm, Jan 10 21:48:53 indeed, i hear they give you money somehow. Jan 10 21:48:56 heh. NO. Jan 10 21:48:57 well, to build doom.. it won't take that long... if i would only figure out how to do it Jan 10 21:49:16 IT dept for a theme park. Jan 10 21:49:23 sdogi_: no, I mean: build 6.8.1 Jan 10 21:49:25 nice Jan 10 21:49:31 acidkill: hehe free ride Jan 10 21:49:43 thats what im saying. =) Jan 10 21:49:43 oh, i'll just do upgradepkg Jan 10 21:50:06 Dominian, yes Jan 10 21:50:07 <-- spenser has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 21:50:22 the hp one that is recommended Jan 10 21:50:22 its a windows xp/2003 shop, but whatever. Jan 10 21:50:31 <-- tvv (~tvv@193.23.122.22) has left ##slackware Jan 10 21:50:40 acidkill: at least it's bleeding edge Jan 10 21:50:41 --> Vayn0r (~Vayn0r@CPE0050047e7f32-CM0f2049994695.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:50:42 supposedly they plan to get some linux servers in there fore backup, and monitoring. Jan 10 21:50:47 sdogi_: current packages in 10.0 = no good idea. you've been warned Jan 10 21:51:06 --> avoca (~avoca@159-134-145-114.as1.mvw.galway.eircom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:51:08 hm Jan 10 21:51:17 DexterF: i'm trying slackware-current Jan 10 21:51:52 there were two other guys interviewing, theirs lasted ~15min. my interview was 45min, and then i talked with my soon-to-be supervisor for about 40min longer. Jan 10 21:52:12 --> viLeR (~miv@aurora.telesat.com.co) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:52:48 --> nachox (Emi@200-122-56-191.dsl.prima.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:52:51 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 10 21:53:02 acidkill: You got a BS in BS ? ;) Jan 10 21:53:22 an AS in..uh...something. =) Jan 10 21:53:31 ehe Jan 10 21:53:39 --> HeatHawk (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:53:39 oooo almost time to go hoime Jan 10 21:53:47 --> _570RM_ (~storm@80.172.149.3) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:54:08 they are a 99% dell shop, which is pretty good i guess. could be better, could be worse. Jan 10 21:54:19 but all their macines are brand new. Jan 10 21:54:27 --> adjacent (~scott@63.209.153.130) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:54:43 infact, they are still deploying machines. Jan 10 21:54:56 --> newbie`` (1000@81.213.137.151) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:55:01 Dell.... ew... Jan 10 21:55:17 could be gateway. =) Jan 10 21:55:44 hi when i typed man ls i get this error message-> Error executing formatting or display command. Jan 10 21:55:44 but if i type this i can see manual page: /bin/bzip2 -c -d /usr/man/cat1/ls.1.bz2 Jan 10 21:55:45 Could be whitebox from multiple local vendors that have gone bankrupt too. :-) Jan 10 21:55:48 how can i fix it? Jan 10 21:55:57 indeed. Jan 10 21:56:05 Ooh, I'm getting a P3 800mhz (CPU + mobo) for $20 Jan 10 21:56:23 hey!! thats whats in my laptop!! Jan 10 21:56:28 :P Jan 10 21:56:33 and i paid...100x as much. Jan 10 21:56:33 <-- lonewolf_v6 has quit (No route to host) Jan 10 21:56:35 newbie``: http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?as_q=man%20%22Error%20executing%20formatting%20or%20display%22&safe=off&as_ugroup=alt.os.linux.slackware&lr=&hl=en Jan 10 21:56:37 Straterra: where you geting that at? Jan 10 21:56:42 Dominian, local shop Jan 10 21:56:45 ah Jan 10 21:56:52 --> Roa (~wer@dsl-200-95-11-183.prod-infinitum.com.mx) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:57:03 Alan_Hicks, u must be an angel.. Jan 10 21:57:06 thank u angel Jan 10 21:57:18 newbie``: you need to disable legacy bsd pty support in the kernel Jan 10 21:57:20 newbie``: No, I'm a BOZO. :^) Jan 10 21:57:42 Dominian, how can i do that Jan 10 21:57:45 im in menuconfig Jan 10 21:57:54 where can i find bsd pty support in menuconfig? Jan 10 21:57:56 umm it's in device drivers/ chartacterdevices I think Jan 10 21:57:58 =(( icant find Jan 10 21:58:03 ok im looking Jan 10 21:58:09 alan_hicks == the archangle of typos Jan 10 21:58:17 --> slackem (~w00t@ool-182c5ff6.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:58:26 sup Jan 10 21:58:37 fred87: At least I'm an archangel. Jan 10 21:58:44 hey Alan_Hicks =) Jan 10 21:58:51 nachox: Howdy. Jan 10 21:58:56 * three_11 puches things Jan 10 21:58:59 during kernel boot after Going multiuser im getting this error* Jan 10 21:59:07 --> OutpourDCC (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:59:09 ** can't synthesize root hub events Jan 10 21:59:14 and i must compile kernel again isnt it Dominian ? Jan 10 21:59:15 =((( Jan 10 21:59:20 newbie``: yep Jan 10 21:59:24 i better go take a break from trying to get this printer to work before i destroy something Jan 10 21:59:24 it takes my more time Jan 10 21:59:27 i think it has to do something with usb Jan 10 21:59:33 * three_11 screams profanity Jan 10 21:59:35 how can i compile it quickly Jan 10 21:59:36 =P Jan 10 21:59:47 either get an amd64, or get lots of amd64s Jan 10 21:59:57 --> fhobia (~fhobia@24-205-238-48.slo-cres.charterpipeline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:00:05 fred87: or cluster some old boxes together hehe Jan 10 22:00:11 --> mmu_man (revol@ATuileries-117-1-24-8.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:00:13 newbie`` if u did compile it once just go to the dir (dont make mrproper or make clean), just do maken menuconfig make a change and do make Jan 10 22:00:17 alrighty folks.. I"m headin' home Jan 10 22:00:20 <-- Dominian has quit ("/home for me") Jan 10 22:00:21 <-- Frost^ has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 22:00:27 l8er dominian Jan 10 22:00:45 newbie``: Don't listen to fred87. He still hasn't finished his compiling. :-) Jan 10 22:00:50 shh :P Jan 10 22:00:59 slackem: no make modules_install? lilo.conf? lilo? ;) Jan 10 22:01:02 ;DD Jan 10 22:01:02 ok Jan 10 22:01:04 <-- avoca has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 22:01:22 slackem, thank u are genuius Jan 10 22:01:23 =P Jan 10 22:01:28 DexterF he did it b4 so he knows the steps i guess Jan 10 22:01:37 hm.. I need to do a science fair-like board.. but I was told once to never try to cut straight lines again Jan 10 22:01:46 slackem: k Jan 10 22:01:50 newbie`` that will compile in the chages u made Jan 10 22:01:59 ONLY Jan 10 22:02:01 thank u Jan 10 22:02:01 coool Jan 10 22:02:02 =p Jan 10 22:02:06 legacy bsd pty support what it works for? Jan 10 22:02:21 why im removing this support cant anybody explain? Jan 10 22:02:28 --> slackd00d (~bacardi@c-24-19-150-201.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:02:28 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@c-24-19-150-201.client.comcast.net Jan 10 22:02:29 <-- nixor has kicked slackd00d from ##slackware (banned:trolling isn't condoned here) Jan 10 22:02:51 im getting this error during kernel boot ** can't synthesize root hub events Jan 10 22:03:04 i think it has something to do with usb support Jan 10 22:03:12 it has Jan 10 22:03:28 slackem: run dmesg and put the relevant section at http://axpr.net Jan 10 22:03:42 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Toronto-ppp298610.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:04:05 second google hit slackem: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/02/msg03094.html Jan 10 22:04:16 afk Jan 10 22:06:05 Alan_Hicks diff machine n only CLI Jan 10 22:06:16 What? Jan 10 22:06:56 cant paste it there cuz it's different machine and it's only command line so id have hard time copying and pasting Jan 10 22:07:17 Polleke thanks maybe it can be disabled or something Jan 10 22:07:27 slackem: Learn to use screen. You'll love it. Jan 10 22:07:40 look in the scripts Jan 10 22:07:48 screen rocks Jan 10 22:08:24 i have that installed Jan 10 22:08:32 gonna have to read some man pages Jan 10 22:08:51 gpm can copy and paste for certain instances Jan 10 22:09:12 do you guys know if there's a prog to limit the bandwitch that programs use Jan 10 22:09:14 <-- pingtimeout has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 22:09:21 slackem: man screen Search for "(copy)" Jan 10 22:09:25 in windose there's prog called NetLimiter Jan 10 22:09:43 slackem-> cbq traffic shaper Jan 10 22:10:00 is it gui or only for console? Jan 10 22:10:03 lemme check Jan 10 22:10:06 i dont know if it will work for program spacific Jan 10 22:10:12 *spacific programs Jan 10 22:10:16 heading home. later all Jan 10 22:10:16 ohh Jan 10 22:10:16 <-- fuzzbawl has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 22:12:25 I guess I should have asked what to set my partitions to when installing slack. Jan 10 22:12:37 why? Jan 10 22:12:51 got it as / /usr/src/ swap trying to recall the rest :) Jan 10 22:12:56 <-- _kop has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 22:13:09 Um... / and maybe /home ? Jan 10 22:13:15 i did /home Jan 10 22:13:18 look in /etc/fstab Jan 10 22:13:19 and / Jan 10 22:13:32 its already installing. Jan 10 22:13:35 harryvv, then..thats it Jan 10 22:13:41 --> gh (~gh@gh.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:13:50 <-- Outpour has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 22:14:06 what are the one liner commands to install other software in ftp sites? Jan 10 22:14:18 What? Jan 10 22:14:20 debian has its apt-get and mandrake urpmi Jan 10 22:14:27 There isn't Jan 10 22:14:39 You download the package and run either upgradepkg or installpkg on it Jan 10 22:14:41 its all by hand :) ftp in get file name and decompress it. Jan 10 22:14:46 k Jan 10 22:14:52 is there a man page on ulimit? Jan 10 22:15:13 so installpkg does the decompressing then ? Jan 10 22:15:14 type man ulimit and you tell us Jan 10 22:15:21 harryvv, yes Jan 10 22:15:24 nice Jan 10 22:15:40 so it tar gzip and make make install in one shot? Jan 10 22:15:46 No.. Jan 10 22:15:58 It's a precompiled binary Jan 10 22:16:05 It just extracts it to the correct places Jan 10 22:16:06 i see Jan 10 22:16:08 --> MoemarS (~m@CPE0004e23a0211-CM014500115762.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:16:16 is there any way to save settings ion alsa mixer Jan 10 22:16:25 MoemarS, alsactl Jan 10 22:16:30 alsactl store I think Jan 10 22:16:46 command not found Jan 10 22:16:51 maybe I asked the question wrong. anybody know how to limit the amount of processes a user may run? Jan 10 22:17:06 ahh frisk..ive run out of space on that one partition. what directory has all the applications? Jan 10 22:17:43 is it /usr/src? Jan 10 22:17:56 MoemarS, root Jan 10 22:18:04 /usr/src hold the kernel source..and thats about it Jan 10 22:18:08 DieRatte2-> im just curious, why limit the amt of processes ? Jan 10 22:18:08 i know Jan 10 22:18:18 /usr/bin and /usr/sbin would hold the binaries.. Jan 10 22:18:23 okay Jan 10 22:18:24 I "su" to root Jan 10 22:18:25 does irssi have GUI as well? Jan 10 22:18:27 and sometimes /usr/local/bin Jan 10 22:18:29 but it still wont come Jan 10 22:18:32 must a login Jan 10 22:18:36 as root? Jan 10 22:18:45 ximpul, know something called fork bomb? Jan 10 22:19:02 Straterra so make a /usr directory and obvisly make it the largest partition. Somone said a full install is 3 gigs. Jan 10 22:19:16 harryvv, its less than 3 gigs Jan 10 22:19:26 I would make /usr very very large, if you can Jan 10 22:19:29 okay then I will make it 3 gigs. Jan 10 22:19:34 DieRatte2-> no but im guessing its a DOS type attack by making more processes Jan 10 22:19:35 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:19:36 making it 3 gigs would be stupid Jan 10 22:19:47 harryvv, you will install new stuff Jan 10 22:19:51 That would means you have 0 room for a new kernel or to install new stuff Jan 10 22:19:58 MoemarS, yes Jan 10 22:20:05 well then what should it be set at? Jan 10 22:20:09 <-- dwolf has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 22:20:10 i compiled module for my ide card and the module hptr370.ko is in the dir wheere i compiled it, can i move the file to /lib/modules/2.6.10/misc ? and make entry in modules.conf to load i t? Jan 10 22:20:11 MoemarS, no, su is ennough Jan 10 22:20:16 Um..depends on your HDD space Jan 10 22:20:24 old 8.6 Jan 10 22:20:32 MoemarS, so: which alsactl returns nothing Jan 10 22:20:39 8.6 gigs Jan 10 22:20:41 I would make it all 1 big partition Jan 10 22:20:47 but, thats just me Jan 10 22:20:49 ximpul, right, it can lock up your machine. Another would be background process who do stuff while the users arent logged on. If you have 5 users, running 3 process all the time it can be a burden Jan 10 22:20:52 <-- DexterF has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 22:21:01 gone for now.. Jan 10 22:21:05 so one / and forget it Jan 10 22:21:08 l8er Polleke Jan 10 22:21:11 Yes Jan 10 22:21:18 one partition. I dont find that safe. Jan 10 22:21:19 <-- Vayn0r (~Vayn0r@CPE0050047e7f32-CM0f2049994695.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!") Jan 10 22:21:23 Safe? Jan 10 22:21:24 oh Jan 10 22:21:29 WTF do you mean safe? Jan 10 22:21:36 This isn't a server..hopefully Jan 10 22:21:49 its going to be a test server Jan 10 22:21:56 For just you or other people?? Jan 10 22:21:57 so i woudl run alsactl store 1 Jan 10 22:22:05 for me and other people. Jan 10 22:22:13 Then get a bigger hard drive Jan 10 22:22:17 Or a seperate hard drive Jan 10 22:22:18 <-- newbie`` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 22:22:19 <-- _570RM_ has quit (No route to host) Jan 10 22:22:39 http://server.straterra.info/sysinfo/ Jan 10 22:22:49 Strata, its only for one process. it does not need to be any bigger it was working in anothr distro just fine. Jan 10 22:22:55 So? Jan 10 22:22:58 one binary with some config files. Jan 10 22:23:10 Im not going to buy another hard drive. Jan 10 22:23:16 If you have alot of files by users, then the partition will fill up quickly and bog the system with 1 partition Jan 10 22:23:21 DieRatte2-> take a look at this http://sourceforge.net/projects/ctk-ulimitw/ Jan 10 22:23:31 there will be no files other then a few Jan 10 22:23:33 If you have numerous partitions, then you reduce the ability to install more programs Jan 10 22:23:39 Then go with a single partition Jan 10 22:23:44 how come i can save the settings as root, but not as a reg user Jan 10 22:23:55 DieRatte2, man bash, look for ulimit, i think thats what you were looking for Jan 10 22:24:20 nachox: whats up man? Jan 10 22:24:24 --> jamesbond (~jamesbond@ADSL-216-244-239-233.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:24:32 007 Jan 10 22:24:35 DieRatte2-> ulimit is the thing you want though Jan 10 22:24:36 hey XGizzmo =) how are you doing? Jan 10 22:24:46 I have been told that having multiple partitions prevents a total system crash and recovery unlike one single partition and also its for rw access speed. Jan 10 22:24:47 good now that i am off work Jan 10 22:24:53 hi everyone Jan 10 22:24:58 nachox: did you get your gear? Jan 10 22:25:00 nachox, didnt find it there Jan 10 22:25:14 ximpul, i dont know what I want yet. ulimit was the first I found Jan 10 22:25:31 --> SebasT (~Sebastian@ADSL-216-244-239-233.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:25:35 DieRatte2-> you know you want it! (jk) Jan 10 22:25:41 XGizzmo, the one i got was broken, so i have to get a new one tomorrow Jan 10 22:25:47 well, mabey for now can install on one partition. Jan 10 22:26:06 ximpul, doesnt look like the right app for me Jan 10 22:26:12 harryvv, speed? Jan 10 22:26:12 it depends what you dow ith those multiple partitions ? Jan 10 22:26:15 Speed has nothing to do with it Jan 10 22:26:22 i compiled module for my ide card and the module hptr370.ko is in the dir wheere i compiled it, can i move the file to /lib/modules/2.6.10/misc ? and make entry in modules.conf to load i t? Jan 10 22:26:33 <-- SebasT has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 22:26:52 mount the main system read-only for protection and say /tmp on the other so it doesn't fill up the disk, that kinda thing? just having multipe partitions doesn't exactly mean its effective ? Jan 10 22:27:20 fhobia, its a 8.6GB hard drive Jan 10 22:27:28 Not much room for multiple partitions Jan 10 22:27:31 how come i am able to save the alsamixer settings in the console,. but when i start X it revert back to the default Jan 10 22:27:38 Especially with /usr Jan 10 22:27:51 MoemarS, are you using another mixer in X? Jan 10 22:27:55 Like Arts? Jan 10 22:27:58 Hello Jan 10 22:28:06 no, just xmms Jan 10 22:28:11 DieRatte2, http://www.rt.com/man/bash.1.html look for ulimit there Jan 10 22:28:19 MoemarS, what WM? Jan 10 22:28:20 just calculate how much you need ? i partitioned 500 mb drive just fine Jan 10 22:28:41 fhobia, with multiple partitions? Jan 10 22:28:59 Like..one for /home, and one for /usr/ and one for anything else? Jan 10 22:29:00 i made /, /home, swap...ok, i guess thats not really "multiple" ? Jan 10 22:29:07 No.. Jan 10 22:29:11 It kinda is Jan 10 22:29:35 i get what you mean though :D Jan 10 22:29:36 I like to put /var on its own partition. Jan 10 22:29:41 GNOME Jan 10 22:29:51 * tewmten farts Jan 10 22:29:52 MoemarS, then it is using another mixer Jan 10 22:29:56 hmm, Jan 10 22:29:59 Adjust the volumes on the mixer in GNOME Jan 10 22:30:04 Alan_Hicks, how large of a HDD? Jan 10 22:30:07 they always reset aswell Jan 10 22:30:09 GNOMEs are evil...they steal your underpants at the worst times. Jan 10 22:30:13 * fhobia isolates tewmten from the room Jan 10 22:30:19 Straterra: Any size really. Jan 10 22:30:24 <-- geko has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 22:30:26 acidkill, Yes..tweak taught us that! Jan 10 22:30:46 I think that 8.6 is too small to do that with Jan 10 22:30:57 8.6GB? Jan 10 22:31:00 Yes Jan 10 22:31:11 That's plenty big enough! Jan 10 22:31:17 <-- hala has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 22:31:25 I mean..what? 4GB for /usr, 1 gig for / and the rest for /home? Jan 10 22:31:26 :D i have slack on 5 gb partition Jan 10 22:31:28 <-- gh has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 22:31:46 Seems quite rediculous to me Jan 10 22:31:46 I have Slack on a 500MB hard drive. Jan 10 22:31:48 Straterra, how do i fix that Jan 10 22:31:48 * nachox remembers dealing with 1.7 gb disks, that was big enough Jan 10 22:31:49 i have 5 gb /, 1 gb /home, 1 gb /shared Jan 10 22:31:58 MoemarS, I don't know. Look at the GNOME documentation Jan 10 22:32:15 I typically do /, swap, /home, and /var partitions. Jan 10 22:32:22 nachox, thx Jan 10 22:32:30 np Jan 10 22:32:39 what is /var for? www ? Jan 10 22:32:43 * nachox does the same Jan 10 22:32:43 fhobia, no Jan 10 22:32:53 Wait.. Jan 10 22:32:54 Yes Jan 10 22:32:55 :P Jan 10 22:32:56 oh wait...wait...printe spool ? Jan 10 22:33:00 logs, mail, spool... Jan 10 22:33:04 fhobia: mail spools, mysql, www, logs, lots of stuff. Jan 10 22:33:09 I never use /var Jan 10 22:33:12 Ever ever ever Jan 10 22:33:17 pr0n Jan 10 22:33:22 /var/pr0n/ Jan 10 22:33:25 Straterra: You don't work on servers do you? Jan 10 22:33:30 Alan_Hicks, yes, I do Jan 10 22:33:43 ulimit doesnt seem to work the way I want to, tho Jan 10 22:33:51 Alan_Hicks: what about /tmp, shouldn't that be separate since its other read write access ? Jan 10 22:33:55 Having /var on its own partition is just good sense to me. Jan 10 22:34:02 Alan_Hicks, if you use it Jan 10 22:34:07 I would have /usr on its own too Jan 10 22:34:12 fhobia: I often symlink /tmp to /var/tmp. Jan 10 22:34:18 ah! Jan 10 22:34:33 Straterra: Nearly everything server-wise uses /var. Jan 10 22:34:44 Alan_Hicks, I don't have a single thing that does Jan 10 22:34:47 My Apache doesn't Jan 10 22:34:55 proftpd doesn't, samba doesn't Jan 10 22:35:02 SSH doesn't Jan 10 22:35:02 Straterra, syslogd ? Jan 10 22:35:04 What about sendmail? mysql? Jan 10 22:35:10 I don't use sendmail Jan 10 22:35:17 I don't use mysql either Jan 10 22:35:18 proftpd log ? Jan 10 22:35:22 syslogd? nearly anything spam related? Jan 10 22:35:28 nope Jan 10 22:35:34 heh Jan 10 22:36:16 fhobia, logs are sent to another hard drive Jan 10 22:36:19 slackware's packege logging uses /var too Jan 10 22:36:35 nachox, /var/log/packages ? Jan 10 22:36:51 Straterra: Then you're using syslogd on another box. You just can't escape using /var for something. Jan 10 22:36:52 :) Jan 10 22:36:53 It doesn't have to. :P Jan 10 22:36:58 Alan_Hicks, no I'm not Jan 10 22:37:02 I'm not using syslogd at all Jan 10 22:37:10 Straterra: What are you using for logging then? Jan 10 22:37:18 Um...nothing? Jan 10 22:37:23 I let each program log themselves Jan 10 22:37:32 so much for a server box Jan 10 22:37:37 nachox, its a home server Jan 10 22:37:39 You just said you send logs to another hard drive. Jan 10 22:37:39 And I am the only user Jan 10 22:37:44 Alan_Hicks, yes Jan 10 22:37:44 <-- foureyes779 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 22:37:46 proftpd logs Jan 10 22:37:48 Apache logs Jan 10 22:37:53 Unreal logs Jan 10 22:38:08 SSH isn't exposed to the net Jan 10 22:38:08 Straterra, syslog is on? Jan 10 22:38:11 What, do you have a cron job that copies them over via the network? Jan 10 22:38:12 nachox, no Jan 10 22:38:15 Alan_Hicks, no Jan 10 22:38:22 --> alphahawk (~alphahawk@70.56.105.158) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:38:25 I modify the .conf files to go to another hard drive Jan 10 22:38:27 question anyone compiled xvid, or understand this ----> ln -s libxvidcore.so.MAJOR.MINOR libxvidcore.so.MAJOR, because the lib is libxvidcore.so.4.0 so link it as, ln -s libxvidcore.so.4.0 libxvidcore.?? Jan 10 22:38:31 Who said anything about network? Jan 10 22:38:48 yo Jan 10 22:38:49 Straterra: Why on earth do you do that then? Jan 10 22:39:00 Alan_Hicks, because everyone looks in /var for logs.. Jan 10 22:39:17 I don't LIKE for things to be in default locations like that, not if I can change them Jan 10 22:39:21 hmm, samba saves logs to /var/log/ iirc Jan 10 22:39:24 Security through obscurity. Jan 10 22:39:29 Exactly Jan 10 22:39:31 nachox: That's configurable. Jan 10 22:39:37 nachox, its very configurable Jan 10 22:39:45 Straterra: That's a terrible idea for security. Jan 10 22:39:49 Alan_Hicks, not really Jan 10 22:39:59 yes, of course, but isnt that the default? Jan 10 22:40:00 It's a step in security, its not all of the security Jan 10 22:40:02 find / -name "*.log" Jan 10 22:40:03 nachox, yes Jan 10 22:40:11 Alan_Hicks, who says I use .log ? Jan 10 22:40:31 I think Security through obscurity is ok, as long as you don't come to rely on it. I think it's fine to *use* it. Jan 10 22:41:24 i dont see any point in changing the places where you save the logs really Jan 10 22:42:21 I just went with a simple / swap partitions for now. Jan 10 22:42:35 Xgates: i would think ldconfig would take care of that for you. Jan 10 22:42:44 nachox: Agreed. If anyone has the rights to read/write logs they've already got root. Jan 10 22:42:47 btw, its fairly rare anymore hd do fail. Jan 10 22:42:57 Alan_Hicks, not true Jan 10 22:43:02 nobody and read/write logs Jan 10 22:43:15 All they would have to do it gain access through apache, SSH or proftpd Jan 10 22:43:18 Only for programs running as nobody. Jan 10 22:43:25 harryvv: harddrives fail all the time. Jan 10 22:43:29 Alan_Hicks, and most programs out of the box do Jan 10 22:43:44 Well, most daemons like that do Jan 10 22:43:49 Alan_Hicks, exactly my point, he has permission to read the config files and get the logs everywhere on the disk too Jan 10 22:44:01 <-- kiwi_uk has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 22:44:08 XG, depends. Ive rarly seen them fail in a production enviroment. But then again not to exposed to data centers. Jan 10 22:44:30 Straterra: I cannot rightly comprehend the lack of understanding that states that moving your config files is in any way an addition to security. Jan 10 22:44:50 I didn't move my config files Jan 10 22:44:55 I moved the log files Jan 10 22:45:01 That's what I meant. Jan 10 22:45:06 s/config/log/ Jan 10 22:45:10 standards and defaults are created for a reason imho Jan 10 22:45:10 --> Outpour (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:45:24 Well..that is what you guys think/believe Jan 10 22:45:24 <-- OutpourDCC has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 22:45:31 I am using it and it seems to work just fine Jan 10 22:45:52 You're entitled to your own opinion of course. Jan 10 22:46:08 --> kiwi_uk (~kiwi_uk@212.219.225.104) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:46:29 --> shagin_ (~shagin@adsl-68-20-215-178.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:46:38 good discussion :D Jan 10 22:47:03 fhobia: only the best chat at ##slackware Jan 10 22:47:15 double the #! Jan 10 22:47:35 * nachox moves /home to /boot ;) Jan 10 22:47:45 * fhobia jots that down Jan 10 22:48:01 Why is it ##slackware anyhow? Jan 10 22:48:06 ._. Jan 10 22:48:08 * XGizzmo move nachox to antarctica Jan 10 22:48:11 the topic explains it Jan 10 22:48:21 another reason why im installing slack as I feel there is a bug in mandrake that I write a modprobe in modules and it loads them as I can type lsmod and it showes thay are loaded but when I execute this one binary that depends on them it says thay are not loaded. I have to manually load them again and the errors in this dependant binary stop. Jan 10 22:48:25 * Alan_Hicks hits his head for being an asshat. Jan 10 22:48:31 XGizzmo, im not THAT far away from there :P Jan 10 22:48:35 hehe Jan 10 22:48:38 hey unixfool Jan 10 22:48:42 hi Jan 10 22:48:46 <-- solsTiCe has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 22:48:56 ( | ) |> <-- ass with hat ? Jan 10 22:48:56 unixfool, no..we haven't seen Sandy. :) Jan 10 22:48:58 unixfool: PM? Jan 10 22:48:59 <-- Ava3ar has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 22:49:37 my mandrake iso download has alot of sig files so im done working with it. Jan 10 22:49:43 sig file errors. Jan 10 22:49:44 <-- TheBeast has quit ("leaving") Jan 10 22:49:55 harryvv: o would not doubt it most big distro's like mandrake have hundreds of just kernel patchs Jan 10 22:50:11 --> jackintheseboxes (~jack@200-103-150-114.ctame7041.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:50:18 Xg, I went the safe way and got some cheapbites. Jan 10 22:50:56 harryvv, you know you can use tab to complete names in many irc clients right? Jan 10 22:51:19 No I did not know that Jan 10 22:51:21 <-- MoemarS has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 22:51:25 --> IronBob (~ironbob@adsl-208-191-166-220.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:51:26 :-D Jan 10 22:51:29 :) Jan 10 22:51:42 ..... Jan 10 22:51:46 nachox: Xgates is cussing you right now. Jan 10 22:51:52 lol Jan 10 22:52:49 Anyone know the command to run GUI programs as root? Jan 10 22:52:58 anyone know why you'd want to? Jan 10 22:53:05 you need to export the display...but i forget how. Jan 10 22:53:12 can you open at terminal, su, and then start them ? Jan 10 22:53:13 <-- shagin has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 10 22:53:21 Squall`: To play Windows games under Bill's OS? Jan 10 22:53:21 xhost ? Jan 10 22:53:28 export :1, I think? Jan 10 22:53:29 xhost maybe Jan 10 22:53:38 uh... and why would that require root priviledges? Jan 10 22:53:42 xhost sounds familiar. Jan 10 22:53:47 Squall`: xconfig. =) Jan 10 22:53:49 * nachox doesnt remember he has been using kdesu for a while to do that Jan 10 22:54:02 Straterra: phrag had a little script to do just that Jan 10 22:54:11 I don't need a script Jan 10 22:54:14 It was 1 line Jan 10 22:54:32 --> Ava3ar (~ava3ar@user-1256.l6.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:54:40 Straterra: let me search the logs Jan 10 22:54:50 Alan_Hicks, :) Jan 10 22:55:31 Well, time for me to head home. Jan 10 22:55:37 Y'all take care. Jan 10 22:55:43 <-- Alan_Hicks has quit ("[BX] Hanson uses BitchX. Mommy, can we dress like boys again?") Jan 10 22:57:11 Straterra: /usr/X11R6/bin/xhost +local:localhost ??? Jan 10 22:57:21 --> rada (~rada@r3x178.chello.upc.cz) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:57:23 evening Jan 10 22:57:24 Maybe Jan 10 22:57:36 <-- Polleke has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 22:57:39 unixfool, hmmm, i know it not my problem, but what happened with sand? Jan 10 22:57:48 --> ryen (~ryen@83.72.184.157.ip.tele2adsl.dk) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:57:50 from dmesg: hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Jan 10 22:58:04 phrag: good music man Jan 10 22:58:21 rada, check that the ide cable is fine Jan 10 22:58:33 tewmten: you leaching phrags bamdwidth? Jan 10 22:58:39 bandwidth Jan 10 22:58:41 nachox ok, if it's ok? Jan 10 22:58:47 people in #apache are all busy - anybody here good with apache? Jan 10 22:58:56 nachox it's completely new hdd Jan 10 22:59:02 nachox 160GB Jan 10 22:59:15 Thanks Xgates Jan 10 22:59:18 err, XGizzmo Jan 10 22:59:21 rada, yeah, try another cable and check if you still see the error Jan 10 22:59:22 :) Jan 10 22:59:29 XGizzmo, ;) Jan 10 22:59:34 rada, I get that from my dying drive Jan 10 22:59:48 --> quiet (~quiet@209.94.61.52) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:00:02 what's ananke's -current ISO mirror? Jan 10 23:00:03 rada: if you are using an older cable, try using one of the newer 80pin cables. Jan 10 23:00:04 XGizzmo: constantly, 24/7 Jan 10 23:00:05 :D Jan 10 23:00:14 rada, cable != hard drive Jan 10 23:00:15 hangman: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Jan 10 23:00:24 penissleeve Jan 10 23:00:27 is the word Jan 10 23:00:31 ok, thank you guys Jan 10 23:00:34 I tell you, it is penissleve! Jan 10 23:00:37 quiet, ftp://inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu Jan 10 23:00:38 sleeve* Jan 10 23:00:42 no, it was slackware...kinda related to penis in a way i guess Jan 10 23:00:50 but ok tewmten, you win ! Jan 10 23:00:54 <-- viLeR has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 23:01:23 <-- quiet has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 23:01:24 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:01:29 and if the calbe is ok? Jan 10 23:01:40 <-- fhobia has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 23:01:41 then you have problems :P Jan 10 23:02:04 yay! I won! Jan 10 23:02:05 I reckon I have them now ..... Jan 10 23:02:42 <-- xemon has quit (No route to host) Jan 10 23:02:48 changing a broken ide cable is not a problem, changinig a hard drive is Jan 10 23:03:44 --> boerst (~boerst@pD9563633.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:04:20 <-- Putz has quit ("Hey, look; a grenade without a pin!") Jan 10 23:06:21 how can I find out the version of kernel I am using Jan 10 23:06:29 uname -a Jan 10 23:06:45 or cat /proc/version Jan 10 23:07:00 Linux vmgentoo 2.6.9-gentoo-r13 #1 Wed Jan 5 19:01:58 EST 2005 i686 Pentium III (Coppermine) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux Jan 10 23:07:04 Eeeer Jan 10 23:07:11 Wrong machine Jan 10 23:07:16 Straterra, thanks for sharing ;-) Jan 10 23:07:28 Linux server 2.4.28 #6 Tue Dec 14 14:41:15 PST 2004 i686 GenuineIntel Celeron (Mendocino) GNU/Linux Jan 10 23:07:33 No problem.. Anytime. :) Jan 10 23:07:34 Straterra: better put on your fireproof suit. =) Jan 10 23:07:40 acidkill, why? Jan 10 23:07:50 celeron!!!!!!!!! Jan 10 23:07:51 Gentoo?!Q Jan 10 23:07:54 and gentoo-r13 Jan 10 23:07:55 some gentoo haters in here. joking. ;-) Jan 10 23:08:04 my dual boot is slack x86_64 and gentoo Jan 10 23:08:12 :P Jan 10 23:08:13 heh, he had to ask Jan 10 23:08:18 I am trying out Gentoo, lemme alone Jan 10 23:08:28 And yes..A celeron..a 333mhz Celeron Jan 10 23:08:37 could I have the HDD problem because I got 2.4.20 kernel? Jan 10 23:08:37 athlon64 3400+ :D Jan 10 23:08:42 http://straterra.inf/sysinfo on that celeron Jan 10 23:08:46 rada, 2.4.20?! Jan 10 23:08:50 That is insanely old Jan 10 23:08:58 Is that like Slack 9.0 ? Jan 10 23:09:10 probably Jan 10 23:09:21 9.1 had 2.4.22, sooo Jan 10 23:09:34 I am running 9.0 Jan 10 23:09:35 that sounds about right considering 8.1 had 2.4.18 Jan 10 23:09:48 rada, upgrade. Jan 10 23:09:49 :) Jan 10 23:09:53 Upgrade to atleast 10 Jan 10 23:10:11 It's not hard at all..just download the slackware 10 tree and run upgradepkg Jan 10 23:10:22 upgradepkg --install-new, really Jan 10 23:10:33 although I think Gentoo on a 333 MHz Celeron is kind of self abuse Jan 10 23:10:47 really? so 1st slack CD would be good enough? Jan 10 23:11:08 rada, yeah..but its a waste Jan 10 23:11:29 If you have internet and hdd space in Slack 9.0..then do it inside of Slack 9.0 Jan 10 23:11:32 Straterra I have it already burnt Jan 10 23:11:38 defile, the 333mhz isn't running Gentoo Jan 10 23:11:41 rada, oh.. Jan 10 23:11:41 :P Jan 10 23:11:44 --> str (~str@216.230.158.50) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:11:47 <-- jmedina has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 23:12:04 Straterra so can I use this CD to updrage it? Jan 10 23:12:09 Yeah Jan 10 23:12:11 Straterra, my bad Jan 10 23:12:16 <-- grurf has quit (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it") Jan 10 23:12:23 Cd into /slackware and run upgradepkg */*.tgz --install-new Jan 10 23:12:28 Wait Jan 10 23:12:29 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:12:29 Hold on Jan 10 23:12:30 --> AcidChild (~ash@dsl-80-41-13-16.access.uk.tiscali.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:12:38 hehe Jan 10 23:12:42 ill do that tomorrow Jan 10 23:13:08 Read this first Jan 10 23:13:09 ftp://ftp.slackware.at/slackware-10.0/UPGRADE.TXT Jan 10 23:13:13 Do everything mentioned in there Jan 10 23:13:22 That file is also available on the CD, IIRC Jan 10 23:13:51 Straterra ok Jan 10 23:15:59 --> Artimus (~Artimus@66-168-2-157.cli.wi.charter.com) has joined ##Slackware Jan 10 23:16:53 --> [M4rk0] (~sIRC@212.247.71.242) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:16:56 <[M4rk0]> hello Jan 10 23:17:07 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 23:17:27 <[M4rk0]> is there any command to randomize (mix) text lines in file ? Jan 10 23:18:23 [M4rk0], how do you mean that ? Jan 10 23:19:29 <[M4rk0]> hm if i have one file with about 100 sentences (every on new row) i want to mix them randomly to change their line number... Jan 10 23:20:14 sed , troff ...... Jan 10 23:20:24 <[M4rk0]> huh Jan 10 23:20:37 <[M4rk0]> any example Jan 10 23:21:18 man this install is taking a while :) Jan 10 23:21:26 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:21:33 [M4rk0], you are asking too much Jan 10 23:21:39 <[M4rk0]> heh Jan 10 23:21:42 [M4rk0], never done that what you want Jan 10 23:21:42 <[M4rk0]> i know Jan 10 23:22:03 <[M4rk0]> ok Jan 10 23:23:07 Straterra: hey.... Jan 10 23:23:10 I use append = ide-scsi=hdd, right? Jan 10 23:23:10 :P Jan 10 23:23:18 Straterra: you get service through earthlink? Jan 10 23:23:19 For SCSI-ide emulation for CD-burners? Jan 10 23:23:25 acidkill, yeap Jan 10 23:23:30 <-- Guse has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 23:23:39 i doubt it...but did your cable connection get upgraded recently? Jan 10 23:23:54 acidkill, last year they gave us 3mbit Jan 10 23:24:21 UdontKnow, are you around? Jan 10 23:24:40 Why? Jan 10 23:24:58 nachox: et Jan 10 23:25:09 hello nachox =) Jan 10 23:25:13 hello XGizzmo =) Jan 10 23:25:15 anyone does LFS with slackware? Jan 10 23:25:16 --> mystic (csk@cm-80.111.217.128.chello.no) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:25:18 i got upgraded to 5mbit this past weekend, but it could just be a central florida thing, or a local area thing. Jan 10 23:25:19 hey phrag =) Jan 10 23:25:21 <-- signal has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 23:25:22 <-- mystic (csk@cm-80.111.217.128.chello.no) has left ##slackware Jan 10 23:25:24 how d phrag Jan 10 23:25:34 hi phrag Jan 10 23:25:36 sup phrag Jan 10 23:25:40 hello Squall` Jan 10 23:25:58 ohh, damn it, the mail is in my linux disk Jan 10 23:25:58 " all =P Jan 10 23:26:01 * acidkill looks for an empty beer bottle...not finding one says hi to phrag.... Jan 10 23:26:04 phrag: hi. =) Jan 10 23:26:17 oi oi Jan 10 23:26:17 <-- alphahawk has quit () Jan 10 23:26:27 got slackware 10 today! Jan 10 23:26:32 came in the post quick Jan 10 23:26:39 from subscription, remember ? Jan 10 23:26:41 acidkill, :O Jan 10 23:26:42 phrag: You just now got 10? Jan 10 23:26:43 YOU DID?! Jan 10 23:26:44 phrag, beat me Jan 10 23:26:55 Straterra: indeed. 625KB/s is sweet. =) Jan 10 23:26:55 Artimus: i subscribed last week! Jan 10 23:27:00 phrag: Ahh... Jan 10 23:27:01 I hate you Jan 10 23:27:02 :) Jan 10 23:27:04 lol. Jan 10 23:27:05 we2by: pat likes me =) Jan 10 23:27:09 heh Jan 10 23:27:10 phrag: wow talking about quick service :P Jan 10 23:27:11 upload is still only ~45KB/s though. Jan 10 23:27:12 I just downloaded the iso's Jan 10 23:27:13 i know Jan 10 23:27:17 very impressed Jan 10 23:27:34 <-- str has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 23:27:38 however, i did sped over $100 there few weeks ago Jan 10 23:27:40 <[M4rk0]> see ya Jan 10 23:27:41 acidkill, that is what I have too Jan 10 23:27:44 <-- [M4rk0] has quit ("I Use SimpleIRC v3.2 XP - Get This Script At http://www.mostarac.net") Jan 10 23:27:55 maybe that's why... but from us to uk, very good Jan 10 23:28:26 phrag: cleaned out slackware while the dollar is down eh? Jan 10 23:28:32 yep =) Jan 10 23:28:34 360kbit upstream Jan 10 23:28:41 us is great Jan 10 23:28:48 It is? Jan 10 23:28:50 :O Jan 10 23:28:59 phrag, try living here Jan 10 23:29:08 yea, something like that. Jan 10 23:29:16 phrag: makes up for the extra tax you have to pay. Jan 10 23:29:27 --> rignes (~rignes@000D615723FD.msns.sm.ptd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:29:30 All of that freedom BS you are supposed to have..exists more on paper than in the towns and cities Jan 10 23:29:44 camera a friend of mine wants, sony dvd201e... 520GBP here, so like $1000.... in us it is $600 Jan 10 23:29:52 --> tbird (1000@pcp09788624pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:29:57 <-- UQlev (~yuriy@ykulyev.logos.cy.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 10 23:30:01 <-- Marverick has quit ("Marverick has no reason") Jan 10 23:30:03 Straterra: try living somewhere else for a bit. Jan 10 23:30:09 acidkill, what modem do you have? Jan 10 23:30:11 XGizzmo: agreed Jan 10 23:30:17 XGizzmo, If I could, I would Jan 10 23:30:31 Straterra: no one is stopping you Jan 10 23:30:36 i had a...toshiba PCX2500 i think. now i have a linksys WCG200. Jan 10 23:30:37 I wouldn't mind if a country didn't claim freedom of speech and ect Jan 10 23:30:38 Straterra: what does that have to do with the price of fish ? Jan 10 23:30:39 Straterra this howto is for upgrade from 9.1 to 10. I got 9 running. is it ok? Jan 10 23:30:42 powered by cisco IOS. Jan 10 23:30:44 rada, yeah Jan 10 23:30:48 acidkill, damn Jan 10 23:30:56 XGizzmo, there are several things stopping me Jan 10 23:30:57 WCG200 is pretty sweet. Jan 10 23:31:09 AcidChild: you hacked cisco IOS onto it ? Jan 10 23:31:13 phrag, nothing really Jan 10 23:31:18 acidkill: Jan 10 23:31:28 wireless gateway with b/g 4 port hub, and usb. Jan 10 23:31:40 I want one of those Jan 10 23:31:45 acidkill: my linksys BEFDSR41W tommorrow Jan 10 23:31:47 phrag, u didnt want me....? Jan 10 23:31:50 acidkill: is that what is on it ? Jan 10 23:31:51 ah i see. Jan 10 23:31:52 nvm Jan 10 23:31:53 AcidChild: no Jan 10 23:31:53 They gave me a cheapie RCA POS modem Jan 10 23:32:04 phrag: no, that was stock. i looked into getting linux on it, but didnt see anything online about it. Jan 10 23:32:16 acidkill: think this will... http://www.linksys.com/international/product.asp?coid=6&ipid=181 Jan 10 23:32:34 didn't know they ran IOS Jan 10 23:32:43 that is nice =) Jan 10 23:33:08 acidkill, how do YOU guys get better equipment than us? Jan 10 23:33:13 ttp://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=33&scid=35&prid=579 Jan 10 23:33:16 what i have. Jan 10 23:33:17 Do you pay more per month or something? Jan 10 23:33:31 linksys runs the cisco software? Jan 10 23:33:31 no, i bought the linksys on my own. Jan 10 23:33:42 acidkill, I meant the modem Jan 10 23:33:44 that was my question Jan 10 23:33:52 Straterra: the linksys is a modem. =) Jan 10 23:33:57 wireless cable gateway. Jan 10 23:34:00 acidkill, what modem did they give you? Jan 10 23:34:32 http://www.toshiba.com/taisnpd/products/pcx2500.html Jan 10 23:34:36 does anyone here know much about mirroring ports with a switch? (i need some extra info on it) Jan 10 23:34:40 thats what they gave me. Jan 10 23:34:47 acidkill: the fact is does not mention IOS specifically on that model, i will assume they all do Jan 10 23:35:07 i havent looked too much into it... Jan 10 23:35:20 acidkill, with that new modem..did you have to call them up and give them the MAC or anything" Jan 10 23:35:22 ?^ Jan 10 23:35:25 Or just plug it in and go? Jan 10 23:35:44 Straterra: they have to have the mac Jan 10 23:36:56 yea, had to have a tech come out to do it. Jan 10 23:37:00 --> cbpye (~cbpye@pcp02333439pcs.bartlt01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:37:09 i tried to get them to add my new MAC to their DB, but they didnt want to do that. Jan 10 23:37:26 so, they scheduled a time for a tech. he called in, told them the MAC, and was done. Jan 10 23:37:29 guys, weird problem here. Jan 10 23:37:33 acidkill, LoL Jan 10 23:37:36 Waste of time Jan 10 23:37:37 exactly/ Jan 10 23:37:37 acidkill: they charge you for that call? Jan 10 23:37:44 hell no. Jan 10 23:37:47 I need to get on the horn and yell at my ISP Jan 10 23:37:50 I'm typing, but then all of a sudden a keyyy will repeat like,,,, 50 times. Jan 10 23:37:55 see? Jan 10 23:38:06 cbpye: clean your keyboard. Jan 10 23:38:09 <-- vurte (~haluk@pD953A8AB.dip.t-dialin.net) has left ##slackware Jan 10 23:38:10 Ever since my ISP got bought out my BrightHouse, my service has been CRAP Jan 10 23:38:15 <-- nachox has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 23:38:26 It's really annoying and it's adverseeely affecting my ability to play World of Warcraft/ Jan 10 23:38:32 i have brighthouse, but havent had any problems. Jan 10 23:38:33 --> foureyes779 (~theron@65-102-149-233.tukw.qwest.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:38:38 what add will play shoutcast streams from terminal? Jan 10 23:38:43 that comes on the slackware disks Jan 10 23:38:54 AcidChild, I think mplayer will Jan 10 23:39:04 acidkill, how do you get in touch with them? Phone? Jan 10 23:39:10 i dont think its installed. Jan 10 23:39:11 It's not dirty, and nothing's stttuck in it. Jan 10 23:39:13 mplayer -playlist bleh.pls Jan 10 23:39:14 No instant-chat thingy like Earthlink has? Jan 10 23:39:15 and it's a random key. Jan 10 23:39:17 ah. Jan 10 23:39:20 cool :D Jan 10 23:39:23 and scroll-behavior is oddd. Jan 10 23:39:29 AcidChild, oh yeah..mplayer doesn't come with Slack..sorry Jan 10 23:39:35 --> csch (~cesar@201.12.34.2) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:39:36 i've never had to talk to them besides calling the tech support number, and talking to someone there. Jan 10 23:39:36 ah =/ :( Jan 10 23:39:43 xmms Jan 10 23:39:43 does mpg123 play em? Jan 10 23:39:52 for adding the MAC for the linksys that is. Jan 10 23:39:52 does xmms run in terminal? Jan 10 23:39:55 xine is cli also is it noy? Jan 10 23:40:00 not Jan 10 23:40:11 no, my bad Jan 10 23:40:45 anything like mpg122 or amp play em? Jan 10 23:41:30 hi... I'm having some problems to upload a file using ftp Jan 10 23:41:41 550 Requested action not permitted. Jan 10 23:41:56 ... Jan 10 23:41:57 does anybody know what this means ? Jan 10 23:42:17 the action is not permitted. Jan 10 23:42:41 --> n2iko (n2iko@ool-182c5a59.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:42:42 is anyone here familiar with MS Exchange/ Jan 10 23:43:06 lol Jan 10 23:43:29 csch, if I were u, I would check the permission the dir u are trying to upload to Jan 10 23:43:49 and the .conf for allowing upload/anon upload. Jan 10 23:44:46 I can find 0 reasons WHY my modem keeps dying Jan 10 23:44:53 This is the second modem I have, too Jan 10 23:45:16 Same model, but different modem.. Jan 10 23:45:18 what kind of modem Jan 10 23:45:31 RCA DCM245 Jan 10 23:45:44 can u please speak english? Jan 10 23:45:54 I am? Jan 10 23:46:10 It's a RCA DCM245 modem Jan 10 23:46:26 * we2by googles Jan 10 23:47:37 --> kino (michael@2001:618:400:0:0:0:43a4:ae81) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:47:49 alsaconf command doesn't see any sound devices on my system.. but I have 2 Jan 10 23:48:09 we2by: what permission are the correct ? Jan 10 23:48:10 nvida nforce sound and audigy 2.. I compiled my kernel with audigy 2 drivers builtin Jan 10 23:48:20 so why can't alsaconf see it Jan 10 23:48:22 csch, depends Jan 10 23:48:23 I have permissions to do this Jan 10 23:48:38 csch, prove me Jan 10 23:48:46 -rw-r--r-- Jan 10 23:48:47 are u sure u do have? Jan 10 23:48:56 who owns that dir? Jan 10 23:49:03 kino, they need to be modules Jan 10 23:49:05 mykilx, you trying to set it up or get evolution to work with it? Jan 10 23:49:08 and with what user are u logged in? Jan 10 23:49:13 me Jan 10 23:49:15 modules? ok.. Jan 10 23:49:18 all files and dirs Jan 10 23:49:40 man I hate recompiling the kernel.. such a pita Jan 10 23:49:56 csch, sure? Jan 10 23:50:13 smoke_: i want to connect to it to get/send email Jan 10 23:50:34 yes Jan 10 23:50:41 smoke_: the IT guy said this can not be done securely, and thus doesn't want to enable me to do it Jan 10 23:50:55 csch, cam u read the log files? Jan 10 23:51:05 yes Jan 10 23:51:10 messages ? Jan 10 23:51:13 find anything? Jan 10 23:51:19 he said "why not use webmail" :/ Jan 10 23:51:43 smoke_: the exchange server is in NY, i'm in FL Jan 10 23:51:46 <-- kino has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 23:52:27 I don't see how pop3 is even less secure than HTTP Jan 10 23:52:37 i would have thought that exchange would have an option to not allowing a user to send mail, without first recieving Jan 10 23:52:39 Unless the HTTP uses SSL Jan 10 23:53:07 Straterra: he says to enable pop3(and also imap) would allow exchange to be used as an open relay Jan 10 23:53:27 Why are you using exchange, BTW? Jan 10 23:53:35 Why not just use a client..like Outlook? Jan 10 23:53:42 Or kmail or something Jan 10 23:53:45 i'm not, the company i work for just switched to an exchange server Jan 10 23:53:47 we2by: what log you say Jan 10 23:53:54 we2by: local or remote ? Jan 10 23:54:01 What are you trying to do? Jan 10 23:54:02 the log file ur ftpd logs to? Jan 10 23:54:06 remote, Jan 10 23:54:11 i need to be able to send and recieve through the company's exchange server Jan 10 23:54:17 remote I don't have access Jan 10 23:54:30 but it works in another machines Jan 10 23:54:33 mykilx, then..use a client Jan 10 23:54:43 Straterra: ? you make no sence Jan 10 23:54:45 outlook Jan 10 23:54:47 I think that the problem is with my box Jan 10 23:54:48 You make to sense Jan 10 23:54:54 argg i deleted these partitions reformated and installed slack and its still booting as mandrake. Jan 10 23:55:02 If you need to send/receive email through their server, why would you need exchange? Jan 10 23:55:14 You need a client to send/receive the emails through their server Jan 10 23:55:26 Straterra: i run linux, and use sylpheed for my email client, the company uses exchange for their email Jan 10 23:55:30 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-209-214-151-90.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:55:40 Ok Jan 10 23:55:46 What's the problem? Jan 10 23:55:46 csch, how about contact the system administrator? Jan 10 23:55:46 i need to connect to their exchange server with sylpheed to get/send email Jan 10 23:55:50 Ok Jan 10 23:55:56 Again..the problem? Jan 10 23:55:59 i'm not running exchange they are Jan 10 23:56:03 Ok.. Jan 10 23:56:12 They need to enable pop3 and stuff then Jan 10 23:56:22 they say that there is no problem. Jan 10 23:56:22 If they refuse to, then you have to use the web based client Jan 10 23:56:34 I try 2 different server Jan 10 23:56:38 same error Jan 10 23:56:51 the problem being that one of their IT guys does not want to enable neither pop3 or imap, because in doing so "exchange would become an open relay" and therefore a security risk Jan 10 23:57:01 that isn't true Jan 10 23:57:08 csch, so the problem is ur pc Jan 10 23:57:14 or ur ftp client Jan 10 23:57:15 Straterra: well that's what i'm trying to deduce Jan 10 23:57:16 I know what i did wrong :) Jan 10 23:57:16 If he uses some sort of authentication..then it wouldn't be an open relay Jan 10 23:57:18 What a moron Jan 10 23:57:27 <-- rada (~rada@r3x178.chello.upc.cz) has left ##slackware Jan 10 23:57:29 <-- epic has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 23:57:37 Straterra: well i know zilch about exchange, that's why i'm asking Jan 10 23:57:46 Straterra: moron is to nice of a word Jan 10 23:57:47 mykilx, no need to know exchange Jan 10 23:57:50 silly AP didnt wasnt configured how i had it before. Jan 10 23:58:00 Tell him to make it authenticated Jan 10 23:58:07 was broadcasting SSID, no encryption, and didnt have MAC filtering on. Jan 10 23:58:10 And let him figure it out..its his job, not yours Jan 10 23:58:14 acidkill, LoL Jan 10 23:58:16 That sucks Jan 10 23:58:18 we2by: I know... but what problem ? Jan 10 23:58:19 :S Jan 10 23:58:24 umask ? Jan 10 23:58:27 linksys needs to put batterys in their deviced to keep settings after power outages. Jan 10 23:58:29 No essid broadcast, no encryption, mac filtering here Jan 10 23:58:29 <-- _xtree has quit () Jan 10 23:58:40 acidkill, mine keeps settings after power outages Jan 10 23:58:45 csch, I don´t know. mhh can u try port mode? Jan 10 23:58:45 My router does, anyway Jan 10 23:58:46 Straterra: i would have thought it would have been as simple as authentication, but... Jan 10 23:58:52 <-- McDutchie has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 23:58:59 i need to get a UPS soon anyway. Jan 10 23:59:34 my ups was one of the best pieces of hardware i ever bought Jan 10 23:59:43 csch, in ur ftp client options/preference, there are two options to transfer files. pasive and port. maybe u are using pasive. give port mode a try Jan 10 23:59:45 --> kino (michael@2001:618:400:0:0:0:43a4:ae81) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:59:59 snd_pcm_hw_open open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed: No such file or directory Jan 11 00:00:04 when trying to play an ogg file Jan 11 00:00:06 --> twisted_ (~twisted@208.44.198.205) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:00:23 <-- tbird has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 11 00:00:31 Straterra: so the short of it is, exchange can allow remote access securely, without it becoming an open relay? Jan 11 00:00:37 Yes Jan 11 00:00:38 --> rada (~rada@r3x178.chello.upc.cz) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:00:47 Exchange is such a gay server to use though Jan 11 00:00:53 where does dmesg take the info from? Jan 11 00:00:56 Windows servers? Jan 11 00:01:00 rada, /var/log/dmesg I think Jan 11 00:01:09 we2by: hhumn.... can be Jan 11 00:01:14 yes Jan 11 00:01:15 Straterra: i know that, you know that, but the clueless management at the company i work for doesn't Jan 11 00:01:20 we2by: what's the difference ? Jan 11 00:01:24 varlogdmsg Jan 11 00:01:38 Life is to much easier when you don't have to worry about Win32 viruses and worms Jan 11 00:01:44 Straterra, don't use diction that makes you look like an idiot Jan 11 00:01:46 man what an asshole that guy was, i wanted to stab him through the phone Jan 11 00:01:48 csch, I don´t know exatly the. u can google it. but I know some ftp servers does not allow pasive modem Jan 11 00:01:48 I don't have dmesg file in /var/log Jan 11 00:01:52 Squall`, I'm not Jan 11 00:01:57 exchange is a POS Jan 11 00:02:00 mode* Jan 11 00:02:01 Exchange is such a gay server to use though Jan 11 00:02:14 It is Jan 11 00:02:18 <-- eelriver has quit () Jan 11 00:02:20 that shows me a lack of command of using the English language Jan 11 00:02:29 WTF are you talking about? Jan 11 00:02:41 --> fskn (~chino@pcp09995929pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:02:42 Straterra, figure it out Jan 11 00:02:42 we2by: to change to port Jan 11 00:02:46 ftp> passive Jan 11 00:02:46 Passive mode on. Jan 11 00:02:46 ftp> passive Jan 11 00:02:46 Passive mode off. Jan 11 00:02:46 <-- nixor has kicked csch from ##slackware (flood) Jan 11 00:03:00 or use lftp Jan 11 00:03:01 Some of us don't use 500,000,000 words and make ourselves look like arrogant pricks Jan 11 00:03:04 how do i echo but take the place of the last output ? Jan 11 00:03:09 --> csch (~cesar@201.12.34.2) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:03:13 so that it doesn't scroll the page Jan 11 00:03:13 Straterra, so you call something gay? Jan 11 00:03:16 gawk? Jan 11 00:03:16 sorry Jan 11 00:03:20 Straterra: i have warned about calling random inanimate objects gay, in the channel Jan 11 00:03:25 csch, try port Jan 11 00:03:39 Sorry. Jan 11 00:03:43 ftp> port Jan 11 00:03:43 ?Invalid command Jan 11 00:03:43 Using exchange is a poor choice Jan 11 00:03:46 There Jan 11 00:04:01 maybe this: Jan 11 00:04:03 ftp> passive Jan 11 00:04:03 Passive mode off. Jan 11 00:04:03 I would add that it is a TERRIBLE choice for any serious email server Jan 11 00:04:07 just that /var/log/messages doesn't contain errors that I can see from dmesg command Jan 11 00:04:10 ... Jan 11 00:04:10 csch, I am not familiard with console sotware though Jan 11 00:04:15 maybe help Jan 11 00:04:20 how do i make output a echo go over the last output so that it doesn't scroll down the screen or in the case of echo -n it doesn't append i want it to replace the last text... Jan 11 00:04:21 some might even say homoh Jan 11 00:04:30 In help i dont find PORT Jan 11 00:04:31 <-- smoke_ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 00:04:33 homophobic* Jan 11 00:04:34 Squall`, and I would appreciate it if you didn't talk down to me. Jan 11 00:04:36 just PASSIVE Jan 11 00:04:36 fskn: gawk Jan 11 00:04:38 err Jan 11 00:04:41 thanks Jan 11 00:04:44 phrag, I am not homophobic Jan 11 00:04:48 csch, can u just turn pasive mode off? Jan 11 00:04:49 well i'm sure the company that sold them the server told them it's the best thing since sliced bread Jan 11 00:04:51 i might have not grasped your question properly Jan 11 00:04:52 and give it a try? Jan 11 00:04:55 --> tbird (1000@pcp09788624pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:05:03 mykilx, M$? Jan 11 00:05:17 no, their IT is not in house Jan 11 00:05:30 Of course M$ would say that. Could have saved money and went with better software Jan 11 00:05:31 yes Jan 11 00:05:33 I did Jan 11 00:05:51 Straterra, what does M$ mean? Jan 11 00:05:54 csch, and? Jan 11 00:05:55 --> Caveman (~biocorp@2001:db0:100a:0:0:0:0:2) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:05:55 i would imagine MS has some sort of "kick back" program for companies such as these Jan 11 00:05:58 does it work? Jan 11 00:05:58 Micr$soft Jan 11 00:06:06 whatever the legal way of doing that is Jan 11 00:06:07 mykilx, what do you mean? Jan 11 00:06:09 csch: I dont get your question Jan 11 00:06:35 <-- Cirkit has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 00:06:37 hey ya everyone Jan 11 00:06:41 http://rafb.net/paste/results/y2UQ8l54.html Jan 11 00:06:50 well an IT comapny that sets up networks and manages them, i would assume would get some money from MS for installing MS products Jan 11 00:07:06 * phrag resinates Jan 11 00:07:19 send??? Jan 11 00:07:24 csch: try lftp Jan 11 00:07:25 isn´t it put? Jan 11 00:07:29 resinates? Jan 11 00:07:40 the proper command is put, yes Jan 11 00:07:50 --> noobieisme (~sam@pool-141-155-26-37.ny325.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:07:51 <-- noobieisme has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 00:08:08 --> noobie (~sam@pool-141-155-26-37.ny325.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:08:08 <-- noobie has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 00:08:51 same error :S Jan 11 00:08:58 use lftp please Jan 11 00:09:03 lftp binary@ftp.binary.com.br:/www/oralmed/cad_horarios_vagos> put cad_horarios_vagos.php Jan 11 00:09:03 put: Access failed: 550 Requested action not permitted. (cad_horarios_vagos.php) Jan 11 00:09:13 <-- kino has quit ("out") Jan 11 00:09:18 <-- cbpye has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 00:09:20 csch, did u login? Jan 11 00:09:59 yes Jan 11 00:10:16 u really should contact the admin Jan 11 00:10:17 if I can type ls Jan 11 00:10:19 hmmm any one know how to take an ac3 and up the volumn in it ? Jan 11 00:10:22 I'm logged in Jan 11 00:10:24 right ? Jan 11 00:10:51 yep, Jan 11 00:10:54 <-- rada (~rada@r3x178.chello.upc.cz) has left ##slackware Jan 11 00:11:24 do u have enough space? Jan 11 00:11:49 quote exceed? Jan 11 00:12:04 yes, no Jan 11 00:12:11 all are right Jan 11 00:12:18 <-- fskn (~chino@pcp09995929pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) has left ##slackware Jan 11 00:12:24 <-- ICeSToRM has quit ("BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") Jan 11 00:12:26 contact the server admin then Jan 11 00:12:28 Does anyone know of a decent alternative to logsentry for monitoring logfiles for you? One that preferably keeps monitoring and not just check every hour.. Jan 11 00:12:32 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 00:12:43 tail? Jan 11 00:12:46 :P Jan 11 00:12:52 hehe Jan 11 00:13:03 no something to send emails on events.. Jan 11 00:13:03 and watch Jan 11 00:14:09 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:14:18 evil root! Jan 11 00:14:48 Who? Jan 11 00:15:05 traterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) is binnengekomen bij ##slackware Jan 11 00:15:11 --> epic (~epic@220.80-202-211.nextgentel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:15:13 I don't use root Jan 11 00:15:28 sorry, it is r00t Jan 11 00:15:56 :P Jan 11 00:16:00 I'm in Windows, sooo Jan 11 00:16:04 * we2by beats Straterra Jan 11 00:16:08 <-- Artimus has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 00:16:10 so am I Jan 11 00:16:24 and win xp home edition Jan 11 00:16:25 * raela feels her stomach try to eat itself. Jan 11 00:16:46 radi0head, I´m starving too :( Jan 11 00:16:46 raela, I know the pain Jan 11 00:16:50 --- nixor removes ban on *!*@c-24-19-150-201.client.comcast.net Jan 11 00:16:55 raela, wanna cook something together? Jan 11 00:17:03 I can feel it grinding :( Jan 11 00:17:14 we2by: I think there's something cooking in the over Jan 11 00:17:28 Tacos cooking here Jan 11 00:17:50 I might get taco sauce on my "The box said 'Requires Windows 98 or better' so I installed Linux" shirt..bleh Jan 11 00:18:11 hehe Jan 11 00:18:45 some one teach me how to cook Jan 11 00:18:49 * we2by googles Jan 11 00:19:31 we2by: could be firewall ? Jan 11 00:19:44 csch, I don´t think so Jan 11 00:19:58 since u can login, u can also transfer files. atleast I think so Jan 11 00:20:08 --> xemon (~zxemon@65.171.164.98) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:20:10 --> dwolf (~unknown@dwolf.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:20:23 xemon Jan 11 00:20:40 --> kino (michael@2001:618:400:0:0:0:43a4:ae81) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:20:49 --> Sandman1 (~ravic@sandman1.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:21:23 mmm all I have left to do for my graduation project is present and write a reflection paper Jan 11 00:21:31 <-- SlackFart has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 00:22:25 <-- dwolf has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 00:22:51 raela: hmmm you could just say "Tune In, Turn On, Tune Out. Fin" Jan 11 00:23:16 raela, what are u studying? Jan 11 00:23:43 --> SlackFart (~el_fart0@dc51468581.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:24:05 --> cbpye (~cbpye@pcp02333439pcs.bartlt01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:24:17 hey raela Jan 11 00:25:43 hey Sandman1, you ever have a weird problem that kept you from running Wine (or WineX) and caused your typing to randomly repeat characters? Jan 11 00:25:52 no Jan 11 00:25:54 srry Jan 11 00:26:02 I just really dropped by Jan 11 00:26:05 :) Jan 11 00:26:32 its nice to know you are ok Sandman1 :) Jan 11 00:26:40 Caveman, thxx Jan 11 00:28:09 nologo: I just have to point to my website Jan 11 00:28:16 we2by: in hs, not college Jan 11 00:28:20 Sandman1: 'ello Jan 11 00:28:23 ohh Jan 11 00:28:59 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 00:29:40 --> ppj (~eatyourli@pool-70-18-150-49.norf.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:30:04 <-- XGizzmo has quit ("going going gone") Jan 11 00:30:17 <-- boerst has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 11 00:30:30 --> dwolf (~unknown@dwolf.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:31:41 is there a cursor package on slackware cd? (im trying to get xorg to work) Jan 11 00:32:14 theres font..... Jan 11 00:32:42 yea i installed everything from x/ Jan 11 00:32:45 --> Satchmo (~1033B8DCA@adsl-213-249-185-191.karoo.KCOM.COM) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:32:58 whats the error Jan 11 00:33:16 could not open default cursor font 'cursor' Jan 11 00:33:30 you install the fonts? Jan 11 00:33:41 <-- we2by has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 00:33:42 everything from /x Jan 11 00:33:43 ryan@Sandman1:/var/log/packages> ls -l | grep x11 | wc -l Jan 11 00:33:44 12 Jan 11 00:34:17 --> we2by (~we2by@dc5146d009.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:34:49 <-- Squall` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 00:34:54 hmm i got 9 packages Jan 11 00:35:03 hm Jan 11 00:35:07 ls -l and see if you have the fontrs Jan 11 00:35:07 fonts Jan 11 00:36:04 4 fonts packages Jan 11 00:36:33 hm Jan 11 00:36:54 http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2002/07/msg00096.html Jan 11 00:37:00 but it's debian Jan 11 00:37:05 1 sec Jan 11 00:37:14 I can't remember my root pwd, this