**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 4 01:32:31 2005 Jan 04 01:32:31 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 04 01:32:31 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | | 15 minute silence scheduled for Wednesday 5th January 2005 at 12:00pm UTC as a mark of respect for those killed in the recent Asian natural disaster and Argentinian fire. | Rampantly-unofficial Slackware support....we've moved to ##slackware, but we're still the same folks! http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl Jan 04 01:32:31 --- Topic for ##slackware set by lilo at Tue Jan 4 00:56:00 2005 Jan 04 01:32:31 -ChanServ- [##slackware] If you've been forwarded to ##slackware you should "/part #slackware" in case your client is confused! Jan 04 01:32:31 heh Jan 04 01:32:34 *sigh* Jan 04 01:32:36 --- You are now known as smps Jan 04 01:32:38 * eelriverlt <-- Is 25, single and not as skinny in this dimension Jan 04 01:32:48 then i shall post my problem again: Jan 04 01:32:51 when i go to do any make phase of the kernel compilation, i get 580 lines saying "make[1] *** [all]Interrupt" Jan 04 01:32:58 putz I may have missed something Jan 04 01:33:05 ananke, long story, short: 2 of the slackware ops were banned from the channel yesterday and the accesslist was changed Jan 04 01:33:12 buggaboo, I'll repeat them to you, do you mind if I PM you? Jan 04 01:33:13 eelriverlt, your daughter is in college? Jan 04 01:33:20 I still don't get why its ##slackware now ? Jan 04 01:33:23 no I don't mind. Jan 04 01:33:23 <-- phrag (~phrag@phra.gs) has left ##slackware Jan 04 01:33:23 --> phrag (~phrag@phra.gs) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:33:27 where are some fast slackware mirrors Jan 04 01:33:38 i don't feel like waiting a few days to get on linux again Jan 04 01:34:00 buzzedlightyear, In the other dimension, yeah. This is a new dimension so I'm making sh*t up Jan 04 01:34:51 notwarez : you can try my mirror. it's my hostname. Jan 04 01:34:51 hmm, 25 mins to sugar bowl. Jan 04 01:35:13 ergh Jan 04 01:35:29 try the bittorrent network for a fast d/l Jan 04 01:36:02 --> At0mic_PC (1000@216.78.69.138) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:36:06 --> kanavah0 (1000@ar2227.usr.microlink.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:36:12 darkarcon2015, Have you compiled a kernel with your current version of gcc before? Jan 04 01:36:16 ananke, inferno.bioinformatics.vit.edu ? Jan 04 01:36:16 man is phpmyadmin ever dead Jan 04 01:37:04 --> testerdude (pho-@221.3.116.21) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:37:30 notwarez : except it's vt.edu not vit.edu Jan 04 01:37:36 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:37:39 Lol Jan 04 01:37:45 anyone tried topologilinux? I have an old but very light and cool laptop here, pii233mmx .. thinking of installing topologilinux instead of slackware as it only has 32 ram atm Jan 04 01:37:47 eelriverlt: no, i installed the premade 2.4.26 kernel with slackware Jan 04 01:38:08 --> chii (chii@chii.utility.freenode) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:38:12 --> alindeman (adml@alindeman-gallery.staff.freenode) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:38:45 ananke, How do the other new -current packages look besides mdadm? Jan 04 01:38:45 testerdude - well, the ram issue will bite you irrespective of the distro - it's based on what apps you want to run. Jan 04 01:38:59 eelrv: the others seem ok Jan 04 01:39:24 darkarcon2015, Have you compiled anything since the install Jan 04 01:39:36 could someone help me to find out if 2.6.10 kernel has a medium security fault or is it my box? Jan 04 01:40:02 eelriverlt: oh yeah, gcc works Jan 04 01:40:02 --> W|GG-Laptop (~deez@ip68-98-179-238.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:40:02 <-- Cirkit has quit (Client Quit) Jan 04 01:40:02 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:40:04 ananke, Cool, thanks. I don't have raid anyway, so shouldn't be a problem Jan 04 01:40:04 carlosm : be more specific Jan 04 01:40:04 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:40:04 i guess my main question is, does toplogilinux have a significantly lower footprint than slackware or not Jan 04 01:40:13 thanks guys... chow time.. be back. bye Jan 04 01:40:24 <-- ryen has quit ("What would we find, if we were to look behind the border of the Universe?") Jan 04 01:40:24 <-- JiMMy-JaKAzz (~JiMMy-JaK@Sherbrooke-HSE-ppp3610640.sympatico.ca) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 04 01:40:34 testerdude - err.. I've never run it, but slackware's footprint can be about as small as you need it to be. Jan 04 01:40:40 --> bubba_ (~bubba@c-67-171-159-156.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:40:41 darkarcon2015, Does this error start right at the get go, or in the middle of the compile? Jan 04 01:40:41 damn...gotta restart the bot after 180+ days of uptime Jan 04 01:40:42 testerdude - how much disk storage does it have? Jan 04 01:40:46 3gig Jan 04 01:40:48 ananke: i was able to write a file as with root as the owner and I was using an unprivileged account Jan 04 01:41:02 it works sweet in 95, got mp3s going and image viewing working very fast Jan 04 01:41:07 W|GG-Laptop, sh*t happens ;) Jan 04 01:41:12 --> newbie^ (1000@85.96.96.21) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:41:19 yeah Jan 04 01:41:21 carlosm : you'd have to be more specific than that Jan 04 01:41:24 testerdude - well, I'd personally go with slackware on that.. only because I know it well, it's a very mature distro, and I can make it fit in tight spaces ;) Jan 04 01:41:32 so... what happened to #slackware? Jan 04 01:41:32 damn any one good with phpmyadmin ? Jan 04 01:41:34 I have tested the same way with 2.6.9 and before kernels and it doesnt works Jan 04 01:41:35 all i want to do is use it for typing, a terminal for other machines and maybe to dump some CF-card files from my camera Jan 04 01:41:42 testerdude - fwiw, I have slack 8 on a P90/16MB/1.4GB Jan 04 01:41:47 bubba_: it moved here Jan 04 01:41:59 --> mall0ry (~mel@ip68-14-182-183.pn.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:42:12 <-- mall0ry (~mel@ip68-14-182-183.pn.at.cox.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 04 01:42:17 legendre: i've been using slack since slack 3, i know i 'can' run it, i was mainly interested to see if anyone knew if topologilinux's default configuration was more suitable Jan 04 01:42:26 i guess not, i'll just install slack10 and customise Jan 04 01:42:40 UdontKnow, sorry to have bothered you with the memo yesterday Jan 04 01:42:47 <-- dragonagenta (~dragonage@evrtwa1-ar9-4-65-243-091.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 04 01:42:53 ananke: I was able to create a file like this "-rw-r--r-- 1 root users 0 2005-01-03 16:37 prueba" and i'm not the root and doesnt have permission to do it Jan 04 01:42:53 eelriverlt: right when I start "make" it repeats the line "make -C /usr/src/linux-2.6.10 O=/usr/src/linux-2.6.10" a lot, then it says the pervious one that i posted Jan 04 01:42:53 testerdude - since slack is much better known that topologinix, I'd ask the topologinix folks ;) Jan 04 01:43:03 carlosm : i got that part. the question is: how Jan 04 01:43:11 i tried, they have no irc channel! :) Jan 04 01:43:17 those bastards. Jan 04 01:43:25 wth is up the channel? Jan 04 01:43:25 ##slackware ??? Jan 04 01:43:35 What's funny is that it almost actually feels like the channel did physically moved somewhere else. Jan 04 01:44:01 cSu|GuntherDW: /topic Jan 04 01:44:01 so, some help with raid/sis 180 controller.... I cant see my drives! Jan 04 01:44:01 ananke: first I created a folder into my home Jan 04 01:44:01 <-- deSilva has quit ("I'll see you later") Jan 04 01:44:01 i think it should be moved to ##drama still Jan 04 01:44:01 :) Jan 04 01:44:10 cSu|GuntherDW: yea, I noticed ##slackware, I thought something was wrong with my xchat Jan 04 01:44:17 nachox: memo yesterday? Jan 04 01:44:20 "mkdir test" ..then "chmod +s test" Jan 04 01:44:39 but why the 2 #'s Jan 04 01:44:49 UdontKnow, you do never check them do you? :P Jan 04 01:44:54 nachox: ah, I see it Jan 04 01:44:54 ## == unoffical apparently Jan 04 01:45:08 nachox: its fixed, right? :) Jan 04 01:45:13 * Legendre did not know that. Jan 04 01:45:13 nachox: I do, sometimes. Jan 04 01:45:13 can we PLEASE put this in the /topic Jan 04 01:45:13 then "cd test" and finally "vi file" Jan 04 01:45:13 nachox: but I forgot today Jan 04 01:45:13 UdontKnow, yeah :) Jan 04 01:45:13 this is getting irritating Jan 04 01:45:21 Squall` - well, it's in there, kind of ;) Jan 04 01:45:25 nachox: I dont have to identify often Jan 04 01:45:25 ;) Jan 04 01:45:38 damnit Jan 04 01:45:38 i get an error message when i run my vmware machine like could not open /dev/vmmon +"no such device" please check vmmod module.. Jan 04 01:45:39 i left my screwdriver overseas Jan 04 01:45:42 Squall`: i was going to write up a slackwiki article...but i dont know what happened..and frankly, i dont really care that much. so, i didnt do it. Jan 04 01:45:42 * testerdude cannot open laptop Jan 04 01:45:44 I assumed the change was related to issues re: robrock Jan 04 01:45:44 is there anybody knows that i ll fix it Jan 04 01:45:49 oh so its a rull to tell the official channels and non ? I thought slackware was Jan 04 01:45:49 * testerdude goes shopping for screwdriver Jan 04 01:45:53 <-- testerdude has quit () Jan 04 01:45:59 rull/rule Jan 04 01:46:05 newbie^ - sounds like the vmware kernel modules are missing. Jan 04 01:46:12 oneforall : #slackware was never officially endorsed by pat Jan 04 01:46:28 newbie^ - or at lest the one that exports the /dev/vmmon stuff. Does /dev/vmmon even exist on your machine? Jan 04 01:46:30 i don't mind crap like ## as long as it applies equally to everybody Jan 04 01:46:35 ananke: I have found the problem is at the box Jan 04 01:46:38 ananke there any slackware channel that is Jan 04 01:46:46 yep Jan 04 01:47:01 where is the official slackware channel Jan 04 01:47:02 --> thiagomz (thiagomz@201.7.30.8) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:47:03 --> inflex (~PLD@dsl-171.156.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:47:07 Legendre, but it gives errors=( Jan 04 01:47:13 newbie^ - 'lsmod' and see if the vmware modules are loaded. Jan 04 01:47:21 oneforall : nope Jan 04 01:47:23 ananke yeah I doubt #gentoo is or slackcare or mambo or oscommerce etc Jan 04 01:47:26 darkarcon2015, Why don't you do a make mrproper, reconfig your kernel and try again Jan 04 01:47:31 --> Dominian (~dominian@dominian.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:47:32 newbie^ - as root run vmware-config.pl Jan 04 01:47:45 ah Jan 04 01:47:48 eelriverlt: i did a "make mrproper" Jan 04 01:47:49 I see the forward has been done Jan 04 01:47:51 btw, what does the 'mr' in 'mrproper' stand for? Jan 04 01:47:53 ok i try Jan 04 01:47:57 oneforall, i thing #gentoo is official Jan 04 01:48:03 no mdule loaded like vmmod Legendre Jan 04 01:48:08 my kernel 2.6.10 ok Jan 04 01:48:13 newbie^ - well, better fix that. Jan 04 01:48:27 newbie^ - sounds like the install went bad. Jan 04 01:48:38 eelriverlt: i also have this other weird problem, when i got make any kernel configurator all of a sudden after a few lines, a program that i made and compiled with g++ starts for no reason Jan 04 01:49:02 lol Jan 04 01:49:23 now *that's* messed up. Jan 04 01:49:28 darkarcon2015, Can you chmod -x that prog. ? Jan 04 01:49:38 sigh... any help with setting up raid ? Jan 04 01:49:43 ananke: sup Jan 04 01:50:06 eelriverlt: well, that program happened to feature a command that i programed into it, to end the program Jan 04 01:50:09 bubba_: what kind of raid? ide raid or scsi raid? Jan 04 01:50:22 eelriverlt: so i do that and the config runs as normal Jan 04 01:50:23 bubba_ - and linux md() raid, or hardware raid. Jan 04 01:50:30 ide, I cant see any drives on the controller... Jan 04 01:50:47 bubba_: recompile a kernel that includes the necessary modules. Jan 04 01:50:54 heh. Not really a slackware issue ;) Jan 04 01:50:56 its a sis 180 controller, and ive compiled kernel for it... Jan 04 01:51:16 bubba_ - do you see those drives at POST? Jan 04 01:51:20 --- notwarez is now known as I Jan 04 01:51:20 darkarcon2015, I'll bet that program is the one messing up the make too, It starts when ever gcc does and interupts your make commands Jan 04 01:51:20 the controller driver loads. it shows 2 channels. but no disks attatched . Jan 04 01:51:49 Legendre, yes, drives in post(in raid bios). Jan 04 01:52:10 ok, good. Jan 04 01:52:13 I spent the day yesterday installing XP, and it works in XP. Jan 04 01:52:13 to set the environment variable MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to your Mozilla installation folder, like /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.3 how do you set that so you don't have to keep setting each time you run a program? Jan 04 01:52:13 does dmesg see any drives? Jan 04 01:52:18 eelriverlt: hahaha, that is so messed up, the only program that i have ever made in Linux, screws everything up Jan 04 01:52:31 --> slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:52:31 <-- slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has left ##slackware Jan 04 01:52:31 damn Jan 04 01:52:31 Legendre, it only shows the ide drive on a different controller. Jan 04 01:52:31 --> IronBob (~ironbob@adsl-208-191-166-220.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:52:33 W|GG-Laptop, ! Jan 04 01:52:36 <-- I has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 04 01:52:37 --> slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:52:37 <-- slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has left ##slackware Jan 04 01:52:40 <-- crackerjack has quit ("Ik ga weg") Jan 04 01:52:41 hi squall Jan 04 01:52:46 darkarcon2015, I'm not a programmer, but I'll bet there's something in there calling gcc Jan 04 01:52:48 bubba_ - but you can see the Sis driver load in dmesg, correct? Just no drives enumerated? Jan 04 01:52:48 dmesg sees the controller, but lists no drives.. Jan 04 01:52:49 what's new? Jan 04 01:52:53 damn bot won't stay in the channel Jan 04 01:53:02 bubba_ - ok.. good info. Keep it coming ;) Jan 04 01:53:06 Squall`, not much...trying to bring the logbot in the new channel Jan 04 01:53:07 ata1: no device found (phy stat 00000000) Jan 04 01:53:11 eelriverlt: but i compiled it with g++ Jan 04 01:53:19 unsuccessfully Jan 04 01:53:23 --> firefox (~zomgwindo@adsl-8-204-229.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:53:28 smart bot Jan 04 01:53:29 :) Jan 04 01:53:31 bubba_ - are the drives configured for a RAID inthe controller BIOS? Jan 04 01:53:38 --> slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:53:38 <-- slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has left ##slackware Jan 04 01:53:40 --- firefox is now known as notwarez Jan 04 01:53:42 --- notwarez is now known as notwarez2 Jan 04 01:53:50 cool it nicky. Jan 04 01:53:58 Legendre, yeah... its setup for a striped drive (raid 0) Jan 04 01:54:16 darkarcon2015, Like I said, I'm not a programmer :) Jan 04 01:54:25 --> MacGuyver (~amaral@200.174.116.164) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:54:32 eelriverlt: oh well Jan 04 01:54:32 i wish i could reformat Jan 04 01:54:32 --- notwarez2 is now known as notwarez Jan 04 01:54:34 I know to run export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME= Jan 04 01:54:34 bubba_ - is the sis raid driver compiled into the kernel staticly? Jan 04 01:54:46 --> slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:54:46 <-- slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has left ##slackware Jan 04 01:54:57 but you have to do that all the time Jan 04 01:54:57 but then i would lose my php and mysql, which took forever to get working Jan 04 01:54:57 Legendre, yeah, so is libata Jan 04 01:55:21 bubba_ - ok.. are you sure that you do not need to pass the driver some args at boottime, to make it register the raid? Jan 04 01:55:38 --> slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:55:38 <-- slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has left ##slackware Jan 04 01:55:52 I tried loading them as modules... but after that didnt work, i compiled them into the kernel... Jan 04 01:55:54 darkarcon2015, Stop them and your program, compile, and start them up again. Or compile in runlevel 1 Jan 04 01:56:03 the bot is confused about the new channel Jan 04 01:56:09 <-- Straterra has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 04 01:56:20 bubba_ - I'd read the documention for that driver, if you haven't done that. It's in the kernel src tree. Jan 04 01:56:45 Tell the bot not to feel like the Lone Ranger Jan 04 01:56:45 hum Jan 04 01:56:45 well... somewhere in one of the hundereds of docs ive read, it mentioned disabling acpi, apic, and lapic... I treid, but got a bunch of errors in dmesg. Jan 04 01:57:22 bubba_ - it sounds like this is a soft-hardware raid controller, right? Jan 04 01:57:30 the weird thing about this program of mine, is that i erased the "a.out" that it created in the build Jan 04 01:57:34 --> slackboy (~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:57:37 yeah... its onboard, but i think its really software based. Jan 04 01:57:37 --> andrea (~opera@200.122.157.40) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 01:57:40 yes Jan 04 01:57:46 W|GG-Laptop: channel set ##slackware Jan 04 01:57:49 ?? Jan 04 01:57:49 ok...that wasn't all that hard Jan 04 01:57:54 fixed it Jan 04 01:57:56 bubba_ - well, fwiw.. you might do just as well or better to use the Linux md stuff for it. Jan 04 01:58:04 i was working with the wrong .conf file Jan 04 01:58:09 hehe Jan 04 01:58:10 i keep a backup also :o) Jan 04 01:58:10 Legendre, I think i tried that too... Jan 04 01:58:14 bubba_ - if you're going to do software raid, mighat as well do it on the OS side. Jan 04 01:58:31 <-- toshin has quit ("-") Jan 04 01:58:32 somewhere it mentioned that the linux raid works better than the soft-hardware raid. Jan 04 01:58:38 i should change its nick Jan 04 01:58:44 bubba_ - that is the general consensus, yes. Jan 04 01:58:59 bubba_ : and wtf is 'soft-hardware raid'? Jan 04 01:59:11 ananke - that was my mangling, thank you! Jan 04 01:59:20 I tried some of that stuff.. it uses dmraid (in 2.6 kernel) Jan 04 01:59:21 good one. now explain what it is Jan 04 01:59:28 * inflex blinks and wonders WTF we're ## Jan 04 01:59:49 lol Jan 04 01:59:49 more hash Jan 04 01:59:49 I mean, an onboard raid controller, that is really juse software based, like an HPT-370 etc. Jan 04 01:59:52 ananke, well.. there are a bunch of "raid" controllers that require software (os software) for them to work... Jan 04 01:59:55 Legendre : so it's software raid. not hardware. Jan 04 02:00:01 not the good ones Jan 04 02:00:02 Legendre: I hate those onboard hybrid soft/hard RAID controllers Jan 04 02:00:05 ananke, real hardware raid is OS independant... Jan 04 02:00:06 ananke - right.. Jan 04 02:00:06 now, need to check the stats Jan 04 02:00:16 the good ones have only a small driver Jan 04 02:00:27 aka fakeraid Jan 04 02:00:28 well, even a software based on-board raid is OS independent. Jan 04 02:00:29 you shouldn't need a driver to use RAID Jan 04 02:00:35 or should be. Jan 04 02:00:54 --> spenser (~spenser@user-0c8hmse.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:01:04 inflex : sure you do. try any true hardware raid card without drivers. Jan 04 02:01:17 Legendre, well.. I think you have to install the xp driver before it works... Jan 04 02:01:17 that is, to configure it, obviously you'll still need a SCSI driver or similar to access the card Jan 04 02:01:17 w00t 5 clock Jan 04 02:01:29 time to go home Jan 04 02:01:29 <-- buzzedlightyear (~buzzedlig@68-116-50-50.or.charter.com) has left ##slackware ("leaving....") Jan 04 02:01:38 irrespective of how it is handled, a 'raid' controller should abstract the multiple devices in a way that any IDE driver can read them. Or maybe I'm on crack. Jan 04 02:01:38 <-- andrea (~opera@200.122.157.40) has left ##slackware Jan 04 02:01:48 for IDE raid I mean, scsi is different. Jan 04 02:01:49 the difference is simple. with true hardware raid, the driver only talks to the card, and doesn't take care of actually managing the data placement/etc Jan 04 02:01:50 <-- darkarcon2015 has quit ("Leaving") Jan 04 02:02:18 correct - true RAID you only see a singular drive, with software raid you see the individual hardware drives Jan 04 02:02:44 anyway... ive been tryin for several days now, and im soo damn confused about everytihing ive read, i dont know what to do next. Jan 04 02:02:48 inflex - even with a software raid that is based in the chipset, and has its own BIOS? Jan 04 02:02:54 with true hardware raid you see as many drives as you have logical drives declared in your raid Jan 04 02:02:58 * Legendre isn't so sure. Jan 04 02:03:23 bubba_ : start with google, and + 'linux' Jan 04 02:03:23 <-- newbie^ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 04 02:03:29 Legendre: are you referring to those $30 RAID1 type cards? Jan 04 02:03:47 man you know since the channel had that name for so many years not all ppl are going to think of adding an extra#. they should have just made it so the topic allways had and can't be changed to say UNofficial Jan 04 02:03:47 ananke, oh, ive done that for 4 days now... I think ive read everyhing, and know nothing. Jan 04 02:03:57 inflex - well, to junk like the hpt-370 that came on my KT7-RAID board. Jan 04 02:04:04 oneforall: it's autoforwading #slackware to here Jan 04 02:04:20 --> Packeteer (~zed@53.75.233.220.exetel.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:04:30 bubba_: ananke is giving you good advice. Jan 04 02:04:35 so, where is the /official/ slackare channel? Jan 04 02:04:38 I doubt very much they can't have it where when you change the topic it allways auto adds that eh Jan 04 02:04:39 A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous, got me? Jan 04 02:04:49 hrmmm...question: in slackware, where do i put regular user commands that i want to run at bootup Jan 04 02:04:52 Dominian, yes, I know, like I said, I did do that, have been for days. Jan 04 02:04:53 ? Jan 04 02:04:58 W|GG-Laptop - rc.local Jan 04 02:05:02 W|GG-Laptop: /etc/rc.d/rc.local Jan 04 02:05:02 Dominian yeah but for how long Jan 04 02:05:04 bubba_: shouldn't tak edays Jan 04 02:05:09 ahah Jan 04 02:05:10 isn't that for root? Jan 04 02:05:12 or any? Jan 04 02:05:15 Dominian, no, it shouldnt. Jan 04 02:05:21 <-- fhobia has quit ("Leaving") Jan 04 02:05:30 W|GG-Laptop - joe user does not run commands at boot :p Jan 04 02:05:33 hmm, sugar bowl is starting. die auburn, die Jan 04 02:05:33 W|GG-Laptop: any - if you have to start as a particular user, then use su Jan 04 02:05:33 W|GG-Laptop, .bash.rc? /etc/profile? /etc/profiled/* ? Jan 04 02:05:43 go auburn go Jan 04 02:05:45 i need a command to run on bootup...i can't run it as root due to security considerations Jan 04 02:05:48 not possible? Jan 04 02:05:51 ananke: auburn in west sydney? Jan 04 02:05:53 nachox, ahhhhh Jan 04 02:05:54 bubba_: hardware raid is not all that hard to understand Jan 04 02:05:55 W|GG-Laptop: read what I said Jan 04 02:06:01 W|GG-Laptop - sudo for that Jan 04 02:06:02 W|GG-Laptop : sudo, su -c Jan 04 02:06:02 W|GG-Laptop: here's an example.... Jan 04 02:06:16 Packeteer : nah. alabama [if i recall correctly] Jan 04 02:06:21 Dominian, your really not being helpful with your suggestions. I would love it if you were... Jan 04 02:06:24 su - ircd -c "cd /home/ircd/ircd; ./ircd -f ircd.conf; echo 'done.'" Jan 04 02:06:48 W|GG-Laptop: You should be able to execute a script as a user.. in rc.local using su then the scrip tfrom there.. iirc Jan 04 02:07:05 ananke: heh, well i used to work in Auburn (Sydney) :) Jan 04 02:07:05 bubba_: You don't follow me.. you are doing hardware raid on what typ eof system? Jan 04 02:07:05 ananke - happy new year to you , btw.. hope it treats you well ;) Jan 04 02:07:27 --> juice (~juice@mo-65-41-197-57.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:07:27 happy new beer! Jan 04 02:07:27 <-- theron has quit ("Leaving") Jan 04 02:07:27 Legendre : so far so good. it's awefully warm :) Jan 04 02:07:27 W|GG-Laptop, oops, my bad, use su Jan 04 02:07:27 su -c won't ask for a password? Jan 04 02:07:54 ananke: Man is it ever.. for January.. it was 60 where I live where the average temp is lik 20 Jan 04 02:07:54 it should Jan 04 02:07:54 W|GG-Laptop: it's running as root... root is allowed anywhere ;-) Jan 04 02:07:54 hell, lemme try it Jan 04 02:07:54 umm Jan 04 02:07:54 this is pretty much the best site ive seen that allows you to get a firm grasp on how the differnt RAID levels work. Just click on the # bar at the top to change levels: http://www.acnc.com/04_01_00.html Jan 04 02:07:55 i dont think so, youre running su as root Jan 04 02:07:55 W|GG-Laptop: not if root does it Jan 04 02:07:55 rc.local is executed as root.. su -c should NOT as for a password if you do it as root to anothe ruser Jan 04 02:07:55 Dominian : i was in a short sleeve shirt. it was like 65F today Jan 04 02:07:55 Dominian, OK. I have a new motherboard that has a sis 180 controller, it controlls 2 sata, 2 eide (ata133) drives. I have 2 ata133 drives connected. Jan 04 02:07:59 ananke: me too Jan 04 02:08:21 inflex, the problem is (i thought i said this) that this particular command shouldn't be run as root Jan 04 02:08:21 --> elius (~elius@dialup-62-0-75-130.tlv.netvision.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:08:21 ananke, you tell me 35C here at 10:10 pm :P Jan 04 02:08:27 W|GG-Laptop: the command won't run as root using su -c Jan 04 02:08:27 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:08:27 so, su -c looks to be it, i guess Jan 04 02:08:37 thx Jan 04 02:08:37 W|GG-Laptop: correct, the command I showed you just before invokes ircd as the user 'ircd' Jan 04 02:08:43 W|GG-Laptop: give it a shot .. see what happens Jan 04 02:08:43 nachox : nobody cares about down under :) Jan 04 02:08:43 ahhhhhh Jan 04 02:08:45 * W|GG-Laptop is a bit slow today Jan 04 02:08:48 must be the wine Jan 04 02:08:57 bubba_: sis 180 controller. who makes those.. I need to pull up the specs on it Jan 04 02:09:17 ananke, heh, i love discrimination, but damn, it hurts ;) Jan 04 02:09:17 bubba_: and what type of raid are you tryin gto do? Jan 04 02:09:18 what I am still not sure of is how it is that when I did RAID5 on mandrake, i needed an /etc/raidtab, but when i formatted that and put on slackware10 (keeping the same partitions) it knew exactly how to setup the raid with no raidtab. it even knew to make /boot RAID1 and the rest RAID5 Jan 04 02:09:19 BTW, the motherboard has another ide controller, which ive put an additional drive on, and have booted the system on ... Jan 04 02:09:21 erm, SiS Jan 04 02:09:28 why did the channel move? Jan 04 02:09:42 Silicon integrated something or other Jan 04 02:09:42 juice: very very very long story Jan 04 02:09:42 W|GG-Laptop: busy work life? Jan 04 02:09:52 very Jan 04 02:09:53 i thought that type of info was kept in the /etc/raidtab file, so i dunno where it got it from Jan 04 02:09:53 i'm gonna quit soon Jan 04 02:09:58 okay maybe i should ask what is ## Jan 04 02:10:00 lol Jan 04 02:10:04 lol Jan 04 02:10:05 <-- buggaboo has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 04 02:10:07 W|GG-Laptop: Heya Jan 04 02:10:14 SiegeX, yeah... im setting up a raid0 (2 identical disks) Jan 04 02:10:14 --> r00tsh3ll (~r00tsh3ll@201.10.169.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:10:15 W|GG-Laptop: something better come up? Jan 04 02:10:16 juice: it's a new edition of "Virtual Trading Spaces"... the SuSE guys are redoing #slackware, we're redoing #gentoo, etc. Jan 04 02:10:16 #slackware is reserved for pat now Jan 04 02:10:17 juice, hmm, ok maybe we should tell you to read the topic :P Jan 04 02:10:24 SiegeX : you probably had selected to create persistent superblock Jan 04 02:10:26 hi FriedBob...how's it going? Jan 04 02:10:26 bubba_: bad idea Jan 04 02:10:36 bubba_: raid0 is a very bad idea imho Jan 04 02:10:39 XGizzmo, i've been actively looking Jan 04 02:10:40 raid1 is what you want Jan 04 02:10:41 I have lots of docs on the chipset, what did you want to know ? Jan 04 02:10:42 found a few Jan 04 02:11:03 Im looking for speed, and size, not stability. doing video editing, not webhosting. Jan 04 02:11:03 W|GG-Laptop: Not bad, overall. Touch tired, but that's nothing new. Why the move, out of curiosity? Jan 04 02:11:08 W|GG-Laptop: good luck hope you find something good for you and your family Jan 04 02:11:11 i just need to find a job that will pay my NG tuition since i took that CISSP course a few months ago Jan 04 02:11:13 topic says we moved is it lol Jan 04 02:11:17 ananke: rings a bell but not 100%, anyway if i did, anyway that superblock would contain on the pertient info that the raidtab file would hold? Jan 04 02:11:26 s/on/all Jan 04 02:11:39 bubba_: You do realize that in a raid0 array.. you lose one drive.. you lose all data on both drives? Jan 04 02:11:42 Dominian, understand why I want raid0? is that ok with you ? Jan 04 02:11:51 Dominian, yes. Jan 04 02:11:54 i mean if you get forward to here what's the point to move :P Jan 04 02:11:56 bubba_: You can be a smartass all you want.. I'm just letting you know the risk. Jan 04 02:12:05 FriedBob, lilo wanted to free up #slackware for other possible future projects Jan 04 02:12:05 bubba_: if you can get one more disk you can go with RAID5 and get RAID0 like speeds but with parity Jan 04 02:12:12 FriedBob et al: Freenode (irc network) has a policy that "unofficial" channels should use ## instead of #. Seems like they are going to be enforcing that soon so it was pre-emptive bit shifting on the parts of the dudes who run this channel Jan 04 02:12:14 from the specs: Support RAID 0, RAID1, RAID0+1 and JBOD by software Jan 04 02:12:19 FriedBob, just like he did #linux Jan 04 02:12:22 it's supports raid via software only.. not hardware Jan 04 02:12:23 brb Jan 04 02:12:24 I have a 160 gig drive for storing stuff... I want to run off the raid, and do editing with the raid. Jan 04 02:12:33 that is if you are doing software raid, otherwise most onboard mobo raid controllers dont do 5 afiak Jan 04 02:12:35 W|GG-Laptop: I see. Jan 04 02:12:48 I got lilo installed and working, and my sound more or less working. Jan 04 02:12:57 SiegeX, yeah, I could also buy 2 sata 200 gb drives and do raid 0 + 1 (aka raid 5). Jan 04 02:13:43 bubba_ : uhmm, if you want raid 0, then why not just use lvm? Jan 04 02:13:44 SiegeX, this one said it can in the manual... no reason to belive it wont. Jan 04 02:13:49 XGizzmo: oh yeah, slackboy is mine :o) Jan 04 02:13:53 hehe Jan 04 02:13:58 ananke, I dont know ? Jan 04 02:14:12 bubba_ : consider using lvm. Jan 04 02:14:15 would that be better for my needs ? Jan 04 02:14:19 well thats good that they are starting to support it because they havnt been for quite some time Jan 04 02:14:35 bubba_ : it would be easier to expand it in the future Jan 04 02:14:35 <-- Squall` has quit ("sandwich") Jan 04 02:14:39 It worked, but then I had to reboot due to some hardware issues (I think my burner might be crapping out) and now it doesn't play. Or is it RAM going bad? Haven't had time to investigate further yet Jan 04 02:14:51 I think this chipset is about a year old... support for it by last spring... Jan 04 02:15:18 --> snow_ru (~snow_ru@snow.dorms.spbu.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 04 02:15:19 hi Jan 04 02:15:23 bubba_: raid 0+1 requires 4 drives IIRC Jan 04 02:15:30 Any one use : amule ? Jan 04 02:15:31 unless you meant 2 addition drives on top of what you have now **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 4 02:15:31 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 4 23:58:58 2005 Jan 04 23:58:58 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 04 23:58:58 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | 15 minute silence scheduled for Wednesday 5th January 2005 at 12:00pm UTC as a mark of respect for those killed in the recent Asian natural disaster and Argentinian fire Jan 04 23:58:58 --- Topic for ##slackware set by nixor at Tue Jan 4 17:05:35 2005 Jan 04 23:58:58 -ChanServ- [##slackware] #slackware has moved to ##slackware to fit the freenode channel ownership policies a bit better. If you've been forwarded from #slackware, please "/part #slackware" so your client won't be confused! Jan 04 23:58:58 --- ##slackware :[freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup Jan 04 23:59:04 SiegeX : yep 2.5 Jan 04 23:59:49 what about warrentee? Jan 04 23:59:58 if its bleeding edge DDR i would go with corsair, if its midrange DDR thats been out for awhile I would save the money and get kingston Jan 05 00:00:09 damn....128 PC133 price is almost equal to 256 PC2700. meh.... Jan 05 00:00:19 all about supply & demand Jan 05 00:00:26 nobody makes that shit anymore Jan 05 00:00:30 * Papyrus considering his choice again to upgrading his SDRAM Jan 05 00:00:51 Kinda why my old machines with EDO ram only have 16 and 24 megs..the shit is too expensive Jan 05 00:00:53 good luck finding cheap EDO memory Jan 05 00:00:55 <-- Polorix has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:01:04 yeah.... Jan 05 00:01:18 how expensive is EDO now ? Jan 05 00:01:49 an arm and a leg Jan 05 00:01:56 I would venture a guess that you can get EDO either for REALLY cheap or REALLY expensive Jan 05 00:02:02 ok.. i think i want to buy SDRAM ONLY if i can find it for less than 30 $ Jan 05 00:02:15 really cheap if you find some old ass computer at a garage sale that has it, expensive if you buy it from a store Jan 05 00:02:27 SiegeX : yes Jan 05 00:03:15 http://www.kahlon.com/keyword_new.asp?ksearch=kah32x72%2Dbee Jan 05 00:03:25 oh shucks Jan 05 00:03:33 EDO is no more in production how i know Jan 05 00:03:39 i got a packard bell the other day with some weird looking ram.. i wonder if it's EDO Jan 05 00:03:43 it's got 4 sticks Jan 05 00:03:46 havent taken em out yet Jan 05 00:03:56 I gotta go eat dinner, BBIAB Jan 05 00:04:03 <-- tbird has quit () Jan 05 00:04:08 <-- quittt has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:04:12 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:04:34 ya, see i just bought a P3-400, 128 PC133, 6Gb HD for the same price as that 256MB stick of EDO Jan 05 00:04:41 edo is.....144 or 166 pin, eight ? Jan 05 00:04:50 *right Jan 05 00:04:57 SiegeX : hmm..for how much ? Jan 05 00:05:18 * kobs opens up packard bell Jan 05 00:05:32 it was like $45 at this PC surplus store, some old Compaq that im using to learn OpenBSD on now Jan 05 00:05:43 btw....what happen if i buy 4 ic or 8 ic type of SDRAM ? Jan 05 00:06:16 --> quittt (dsadas@200-170-123-107.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:06:53 dunno Jan 05 00:07:09 --> Dario (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:07:11 IIRC, PC100/133 is 168pin, and EDO is 72pin Jan 05 00:07:14 <-- avoca has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:07:21 does anyone know what NET WATCHDOG is? Jan 05 00:07:27 and DDR is 244, or something like that. Jan 05 00:07:49 uhm....i think SDRAM 168 and DDR 184 or 186. whatever.... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 5 00:07:57 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 5 00:08:08 2005 Jan 05 00:08:08 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 05 00:08:08 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | 15 minute silence scheduled for Wednesday 5th January 2005 at 12:00pm UTC as a mark of respect for those killed in the recent Asian natural disaster and Argentinian fire Jan 05 00:08:08 --- Topic for ##slackware set by nixor at Tue Jan 4 17:05:35 2005 Jan 05 00:08:08 -ChanServ- [##slackware] #slackware has moved to ##slackware to fit the freenode channel ownership policies a bit better. If you've been forwarded from #slackware, please "/part #slackware" so your client won't be confused! Jan 05 00:08:08 --- ##slackware :[freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup Jan 05 00:08:26 i wonder if these 4 ic or 8 ic SDRAM will run fine on my P3. some voices tell me 16 ic is more stable.... Jan 05 00:08:31 acidkill : dunno. i don't use it Jan 05 00:10:28 <-- SlackFart has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 05 00:10:46 --> MacGuyver (~amaral@200.208.213.47) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:10:47 --> crondom (~chatzilla@12.145.228.130) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:12:17 hm, all of the FAQs in the SELinux FAQ are #1 Jan 05 00:12:28 I think they were hacked Jan 05 00:12:52 --> meowwuff (~mreith@69.90.194.233) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:13:01 --> DuRaZNo (~alfreleca@200.106.25.35) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:13:03 woudl someone be so kind as to tell me what tehre default terminal type is when they logon to their box? Jan 05 00:13:04 hi all Jan 05 00:13:24 meowwuff: linux Jan 05 00:13:43 Zalamander : huh ? Jan 05 00:13:57 #1 ? Jan 05 00:14:02 http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/info/faq.cfm Jan 05 00:14:11 check out the text. They are all #1 Jan 05 00:14:13 I hope I get my movies tomorrow Jan 05 00:14:19 tewmten me too Jan 05 00:14:22 Scarface Special Edition 2 DVD :) Jan 05 00:14:24 tewmten: thats your term type? Jan 05 00:14:31 --> minux (~dfgdfg@minux.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:14:32 meowwuff: yes Jan 05 00:14:37 Zalamander: site looks fine to me... Jan 05 00:14:42 meowwuff "linux" is set by /etc/profile, if there is no other Jan 05 00:14:52 Zalamander: that link looks find to me Jan 05 00:14:58 <-- Cirkit has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 05 00:15:00 Zalamander : yeah, looks fine Jan 05 00:15:03 Look at the *text* of the FAQs Jan 05 00:15:31 the text looks fine too Jan 05 00:15:35 --> FenrisUlf (~jft@c-24-0-208-96.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:15:47 the links at the top to the sections have two main sections, I and II, and 1-22 and 1-7 in sections. Jan 05 00:15:55 yeah, that's the links, now check the text Jan 05 00:16:02 the links also work, click on say I, 12, it goes to the text. which looks fine. Jan 05 00:16:02 the text is fine to me Jan 05 00:16:03 <-- octavious has quit ("leaving") Jan 05 00:16:16 and the text says "12." ? Jan 05 00:16:21 10. Why did you do this work? Jan 05 00:16:38 12. Is Security-enhanced Linux a Trusted Operating System? Jan 05 00:16:38 --> m[a]zzanet (~mazzanet@mazzanet.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:16:53 I guess it's my browser. Looks fine here too in another Jan 05 00:16:59 hmm....looks fine Jan 05 00:17:08 --> The_Yeti (~Yeti@pcp03278380pcs.mtmors01.mi.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:17:12 Zalamander: maybe CIA hacked your browser!! =) Jan 05 00:17:21 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:17:30 hmmm..... 18 $ for 128 :) Jan 05 00:17:52 <-- kop has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 00:18:08 <-- [Granger] has quit () Jan 05 00:18:22 --> [Granger] (Ecto@c-265f70d5.033-47-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:18:50 <-- Analyzer has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 05 00:18:51 acidkill more like Mozilla is more tolerant of broken xhtml than konqueor is Jan 05 00:18:58 ahh. Jan 05 00:19:01 --> kop (~trillian@64-40-61-111.nocharge.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:19:05 <-- FenrisUlf has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 00:19:14 * DuRaZNo doesn't like Konqueror Jan 05 00:19:16 <-- juice has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 05 00:19:19 * Squall` doesn't like DuRaZNo Jan 05 00:19:27 aaahhh.... allizoM Jan 05 00:19:29 hello, I am trying to get my wi-fi card working. Did iwconfig, it sees it. Did iwconfig eth0 key 12345678. Thats fine. did ifconfig eth0 up. That seems to work. Then I did "dhclient" and it says "no broadcast addresses found" Jan 05 00:19:44 anyone know how to fix my problem? Jan 05 00:19:49 --> SlackFart (~el_fart0@dc51468581.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:19:50 <-- vurte (~haluk@pD95F68C8.dip.t-dialin.net) has left ##slackware Jan 05 00:19:56 konqueror was doing really well until 3.3.2. Several new bugs appeared, and a few previously solved ones returned. Annoying. Jan 05 00:20:29 that's why it called bugs Jan 05 00:20:31 i hit a bug, somehow, in firefox 1.0 that made it stop downloading. i couldnt make it download anything. Jan 05 00:20:36 it's pesky Jan 05 00:21:06 thanks everybody Jan 05 00:21:07 <-- meowwuff (~mreith@69.90.194.233) has left ##slackware Jan 05 00:21:22 acidkill that happened to me once -- in my case it was because I had moved the directory to which I had *last* downloaded. So the download manager would crash when it tried to start up. Jan 05 00:21:39 bye all Jan 05 00:21:40 acidkill well, it happened to me with mozilla Jan 05 00:21:43 I'm leavin' Jan 05 00:21:44 bye Jan 05 00:21:50 <-- DuRaZNo (~alfreleca@200.106.25.35) has left ##slackware Jan 05 00:21:50 <-- mika_EL has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 05 00:21:50 my download manager wouldnt crash, it would open. but i may have done that. Jan 05 00:22:24 also, the nightly changed the file save/open dialog to the one used in gnome 2.8. Jan 05 00:22:33 i kinda dont like it...but its not that bad. Jan 05 00:22:49 Zalamander, i was never ever into konqueror. it's ok, but i prefer nautilus for local files, and mozilla for web Jan 05 00:23:27 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 00:23:32 --> juice (~juice@mo-65-41-197-57.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:23:37 --> Outpour (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:23:37 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:23:37 konqueror is still great for local files. And FTP as well. Jan 05 00:23:48 ncftp. =) Jan 05 00:23:51 --> meka (~bmx@82.154.200.106) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:23:55 <-- jmichaeljm has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:23:59 <-- meka (~bmx@82.154.200.106) has left ##slackware Jan 05 00:24:02 and the Audio I/0 slaves that do cd ripping and mp3 encoding are awesome Jan 05 00:24:03 --> meka (~bmx@82.154.200.106) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:24:08 <-- meka (~bmx@82.154.200.106) has left ##slackware Jan 05 00:24:25 Zalamander : don't forget SMB. Konqueror is good Jan 05 00:24:36 konqueror sucks for ftp. first off, i don't need it to sit there and count files. second, it stalls often. wget is much better an experience IMO Jan 05 00:24:55 wget rules Jan 05 00:24:56 so with a single drag and drop, I can (1)rip an audio cd (2)encode it to ogg (3)FTP it to a remote server, without ever writing the ogg to my own hard drive. Jan 05 00:25:00 cdparanoia -B && oggenc *.wav && rm -f *.wav; xterm <- good replacement for both konqueror and nautilus Jan 05 00:25:00 however, kde itself is ok, has good programs such as k3b, amaroK, and the kaudiocreator thingy Jan 05 00:25:08 Papyrus true, I don't get much use for that though Jan 05 00:25:16 <-- crud has quit ("Powered by PRE-ROLLED JOINT Got it ? =)") Jan 05 00:25:34 Zalamander, never writing it to your own hard drive? i somehow doubt that, as the program probably uses temporary file space or file locations Jan 05 00:25:42 NeoLaptop nope Jan 05 00:25:58 Zalamander, what about swap space? :P Jan 05 00:26:07 why write it to the hard drive when you can pipe it directly across the network? Jan 05 00:26:17 Zalamander, well honestly, where's it going to do all its work? ram? how big a file are we talking? Jan 05 00:26:23 Straterra I've never hit mine, with 512M of RAM Jan 05 00:26:34 Zalamander Zarine Jan 05 00:26:42 <-- blackhat-- has quit ("kill -9 irc -.-") Jan 05 00:26:46 * NeoLaptop is just reminded of the need for more ram ... Jan 05 00:26:56 NeoLaptop : aren't we all Jan 05 00:27:04 Yeah. :/ Jan 05 00:27:05 NeoLaptop eh? It's ripped in chunks, it's encoded in chunks, it's sent over the network in chunks. There is no reason to write it anywhere Jan 05 00:27:09 Zalamander, you cant encode your ogg file on the fly , program must write it somewhere and then encoded (finished) send thru ftp Jan 05 00:27:18 * Papyrus gets frustrated playing prince of persia : warrior within. Jan 05 00:27:39 smps I don't see why, it certainly works for MP3, without touching the drive Jan 05 00:27:41 but somehow i don't like konqueror for ftp at all. sure, it works for one file at a time pretty well, but something about it annoys me, such as counting files, such as stalling when you copy over mass files, such as counting files BEFORE copying from ftp, weird krap like that. mozilla works best for web IMO, or wget. Jan 05 00:27:51 still, rsync > ftp IMO ... :D Jan 05 00:27:55 Zalamander Zarine Jan 05 00:28:00 --> jmedina (~jmedina@63.70.73.227) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:28:06 scp ;) Jan 05 00:28:06 Zalamander, any clues for me on how to get konqueror from being such a pig for ftp? Jan 05 00:28:08 NeoLaptop I've never had konqueror do any of that stuff Jan 05 00:28:12 sftp :D Jan 05 00:28:20 konqueror is good at sftp too Jan 05 00:28:21 and fish Jan 05 00:28:29 sftp has overhead Jan 05 00:28:44 --> zaphar (~zaphar@res11585.rh.rit.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:28:47 yeah ! no spam ! Jan 05 00:28:50 * NeoLaptop goes back to reading his linux+ book Jan 05 00:28:58 Papyrus, spamassassin? Jan 05 00:29:06 everything has overhead Jan 05 00:29:10 scp is important when copying pr0n ;) Jan 05 00:29:16 hahahah Jan 05 00:29:20 NeoLaptop in konqueror I use the split screen for FTP, drag and drop between the panes, directories, files, whatever. It works painlessly. Or drag between two FTP servers, or one SFTP and one FISH Jan 05 00:29:21 anyone in here have a amd 3200+ Jan 05 00:29:23 Dominian, but scp/sftp has alot of overhead Jan 05 00:29:30 --> octavious (100@68.61.127.173) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:29:31 eh.. no biggy Jan 05 00:29:32 it works Jan 05 00:29:33 zaphar : i have barton 3000+ Jan 05 00:29:39 Doesn't have enough to make it unusable. Jan 05 00:29:50 * Xgates shows off to the Slackcares some L33t gDesklets screenshots Jan 05 00:29:54 http://www.slackcare.com/images/gdesklets_shot.gif Jan 05 00:29:54 my computer keeps getting "hot" 70c and I can't figure out my it's heating up so much Jan 05 00:29:59 http://www.slackcare.com/images/gdesklets_shell.gif Jan 05 00:30:06 why* Jan 05 00:30:07 oh my. Jan 05 00:30:25 zaphar : my peak temp is about 58C Jan 05 00:30:25 zaphar, Um..are you using thermal paste? Jan 05 00:30:29 zaphar : my peak temp is about 58 C Jan 05 00:30:29 actually my TYPO, hehe meant to say to the --> Slackers Jan 05 00:30:30 Another one of my friends just wrote to tell me they were homeless, and to ask if they could stay here =/ Jan 05 00:30:30 :-) Jan 05 00:30:32 yup Jan 05 00:30:43 Legendre: tell them to piss off Jan 05 00:30:44 Legendre: wooo :-( Jan 05 00:30:47 well pr0n destroys braincells, so oh well Jan 05 00:30:48 zaphar : my old Palomino goes up to 62 C though Jan 05 00:30:52 --> FenrisUlf (~jft@c-24-0-208-96.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:30:57 Legendre, if they are homeless..then how do you mail a responce back? Jan 05 00:30:57 <-- crondom has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 05 00:30:59 Legendre: Cause they will stay there for a day.. then it'll be a week... then a month.. then you'll never get rid of them. Jan 05 00:31:00 mine is runing at 60c idle Jan 05 00:31:04 Dominian: he SAID --> friends NOT BUMS Jan 05 00:31:06 sheesh Jan 05 00:31:09 lol Jan 05 00:31:10 Dominian - yeah, I already have that issue :) Jan 05 00:31:20 zaphar : What ?? i only gets about 42 C when idle Jan 05 00:31:20 then it jumps up to around 70+ when I play games and stuff Jan 05 00:31:21 I'm such an idiot. Jan 05 00:31:22 Xgates, how is gDesklets L33t? dude, they built all that FOR you, all you did was compile and follow instructions, not much to be considering yourself 1337 Jan 05 00:31:24 Xgates: friends bums.. what's the f'n difference? Jan 05 00:31:37 Zalamander zaphar Zarine Jan 05 00:31:50 friends can be bums when they need something. Jan 05 00:31:52 NeoLaptop: well actually you need some dependant packs, there is a bit more to it then that Jan 05 00:31:53 hehe Jan 05 00:31:58 it's weird though, when I exit the game it jumps back down to 60 Jan 05 00:32:02 zaphar, my centrino heats on idle up to ~60 Jan 05 00:32:02 Dominian : you look it like a "bugs", i think Jan 05 00:32:07 <-- kiwi|lappy has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:32:12 Xgates, that's not hard either Jan 05 00:32:14 Papyrus: no.. I don't let people mooch off of me. Jan 05 00:32:15 zaphar : sensor error ??? Jan 05 00:32:16 zaphar, fine, don't answer me. :/ Jan 05 00:32:24 i've done it, my screenshot is still on www.xfce.org (iirc) Jan 05 00:32:28 If a friend of mine is homeless.. chances are.. it's their own damn fault Jan 05 00:32:38 I thought I did Jan 05 00:32:45 NeoLaptop: yes sure IF you have experience, not everyone does, and to make packs for distributiion as well Jan 05 00:32:46 :-) Jan 05 00:32:48 Dominian : wew Jan 05 00:32:50 yup Jan 05 00:32:55 zaphar, you are then? Jan 05 00:32:57 Ok Jan 05 00:32:59 Papyrus: yeah.. I'm a prick. Jan 05 00:33:01 * Dominian smiles Jan 05 00:33:02 zaphar, or clean up your cooler Jan 05 00:33:05 NeoLaptop: just thought I'd show some pics is all :-) Jan 05 00:33:07 DRAT, my screenshot is gone, forgot about the new 4.1.99.x development going on Jan 05 00:33:14 Did you remove the HS and not scrape off the old paste and put some new down? Jan 05 00:33:17 Papyrus: I didn't work my butt off in college so friends could mooch offo f me. Jan 05 00:33:21 zaphar : maybe your Casing doesn't have enough cool air..... Jan 05 00:33:23 yeah, I did that too Jan 05 00:33:29 Xgates, nah, i was only picking on you for calling yourself elite. i'll say your desktop looks good, however, if you have links Jan 05 00:33:37 <-- mazzanet has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 05 00:33:38 --- m[a]zzanet is now known as mazzanet Jan 05 00:33:45 NeoLaptop: I'm l33t baby Jan 05 00:33:50 hehe Jan 05 00:33:50 NeoLaptop: hehe, thanks I was just playing saying L33t is all :-) Jan 05 00:33:52 zaphar, did you put the HS correctly on the CPU, and the HSF on the HS correctly? Jan 05 00:33:57 NeoLaptop : you really really think pr0n can destroy your mind ?? Jan 05 00:33:57 it doesn't seem very hot in there Jan 05 00:34:02 NeoLaptop: links? Jan 05 00:34:05 Dominian, no, you're not 1337 Jan 05 00:34:08 zaphar: touch the processor Jan 05 00:34:12 NeoLaptop: neither are you Jan 05 00:34:17 so what's the difference? Jan 05 00:34:21 hehe Jan 05 00:34:22 how secure am I if I only have ssh running as service? Jan 05 00:34:25 i know some people who attend all the defcon conventions, yet don't even know how to hack, just go for the fun. they're not 1337 either. Jan 05 00:34:30 Dominian, exactly. Jan 05 00:34:41 Hacker type is annoying Jan 05 00:34:52 is there something in /proc that says how hot the computer is Jan 05 00:35:06 <-- Dario has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 05 00:35:07 Papyrus, yes, pr0n screws up your mind. psychology is saying that now. makes you devalue others, etc etc, leads to bad thoughts and tendencies. Jan 05 00:35:16 hehe Jan 05 00:35:17 Xgates, tell me where i can view your screenshots Jan 05 00:35:21 I didn't need pr0n for that. Jan 05 00:35:22 zaphar, touch the HS and see if it is hot Jan 05 00:35:25 NeoLaptop : really..... Jan 05 00:35:30 Dominian : grrr Jan 05 00:35:31 NeoLaptop: what the ones I just posted? Jan 05 00:35:41 Xgates, oh, hold on, i'll scroll up Jan 05 00:35:50 I put thermal paste on the die and then put the heat sink on top of that and everything is fine Jan 05 00:36:08 NeoLaptop : aaah... thanx for the info. Jan 05 00:36:16 --> geeshock (~jmhowell@12-219-124-138.client.mchsi.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:36:17 moo! Jan 05 00:36:22 but then the temp goes up to about 60c Jan 05 00:36:26 zaphar : how fast is your CPU Fan ? Jan 05 00:36:27 Xgates, not bad at all Jan 05 00:36:32 it used to run at 50c I think Jan 05 00:36:42 Zalamander: you compiling anything? Jan 05 00:36:43 zaphar : try to get that nice copper HS Jan 05 00:36:46 hmm, not sure Jan 05 00:36:54 er.. Jan 05 00:36:58 zaphar: you compiling anything Jan 05 00:36:58 Dominian right this moment? Jan 05 00:37:03 I'll get a link to the one I have Jan 05 00:37:05 * Zalamander checks Jan 05 00:37:05 nope Jan 05 00:37:07 Zalamander: lol.. sorry mis typed Jan 05 00:37:32 my desktop http://www.slackwaregallery.com/displayimage.php?album=4&pos=11#body Jan 05 00:38:02 Papyrus what clock is that? Jan 05 00:38:13 Papyrus: meh.. those fonts man.. Jan 05 00:38:31 Zalamander : karamba theme Jan 05 00:38:42 Papyrus: what is that system monitor running on the left? Jan 05 00:38:49 Dominian : i know...already fixed it Jan 05 00:38:52 NeoLaptop: here's the box with a little more action going on ---> http://www.slackcare.com/openbox3.gif Jan 05 00:38:56 acidkill : karamba theme Jan 05 00:39:03 karamba theme comes with that clock? Jan 05 00:39:03 Is anyone running aide? If so how did they not end up with seg faults? Which version are they using? Jan 05 00:39:06 ? Jan 05 00:39:06 OpenBox3 yeah BABY Jan 05 00:39:07 :-) Jan 05 00:39:18 Zalamander : no. i get it on kde-look Jan 05 00:39:22 ew, openbox?! Jan 05 00:39:34 I'm confused Jan 05 00:39:41 --> carlosm (~carlosm@201.130.179.58) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:39:44 what should I do if want to acquire that clock? Jan 05 00:39:52 NeoLaptop: hehe, only the few and the proud LOL Jan 05 00:39:54 Zalamander: you have to install superkaramba Jan 05 00:39:56 Zalamander : i use superkaramba. then use its theme for the clock, the system info, calendar, etc... Jan 05 00:39:57 does anybody here is using Eterm? Jan 05 00:40:00 Zalamander: then download the theme for that clock Jan 05 00:40:04 Xgates, how's slackcare going? Jan 05 00:40:12 I need a whole theme for a clock? Jan 05 00:40:15 weird Jan 05 00:40:18 bleh, openbox < fluxbox imo Jan 05 00:40:18 no no Jan 05 00:40:23 Zalamander: they are called themes.. Jan 05 00:40:27 what are themes? Jan 05 00:40:31 NeoLaptop: ok getting alot more packs on it --> http://www.slackcare.com/content.php?content.47 Jan 05 00:40:32 I know what a theme is. Jan 05 00:40:36 Zalamander: it's weird.. they are like small "programs" that run inside of superkaramba Jan 05 00:40:42 Xgates, still $5 ? Jan 05 00:40:46 ok Jan 05 00:40:47 NeoLaptop: yes Jan 05 00:40:49 I don't call them themes Jan 05 00:40:53 they are freakin' programs Jan 05 00:40:54 hehe Jan 05 00:40:56 uhmm....something like superkaramba "modules" Jan 05 00:41:01 yeah Jan 05 00:41:06 Papyrus: that's much better definition Jan 05 00:41:08 Xgates, pay by month or by year? Jan 05 00:41:10 I don't think I need this clock that badly :-) Jan 05 00:41:24 NeoLaptop: month, and a few months in advance is ok Jan 05 00:41:27 Zalamander : i like it. reminds me of time..... Jan 05 00:41:30 Xgates, ok kewl Jan 05 00:41:36 time is good Jan 05 00:41:37 i might become a "gold member" Jan 05 00:41:38 :D Jan 05 00:41:54 What does superkaramba use for it's modules? I was using gdesklets, but I've been kind of turned off by the messy XML + Python stuff they use for their modules. Jan 05 00:41:55 shagadelic baby Jan 05 00:42:09 mheath: python mostly I believe Jan 05 00:42:11 (Though gdesklets is now cleaning that up, with the inline scripting and such) Jan 05 00:42:20 mheath : superkaramba use phyton for running its "modules" Jan 05 00:42:20 messy python? That takes skill Jan 05 00:42:24 NeoLaptop: have a look at that "Package List" also anything not there, requests are can be made and filled in within 1-2 days Jan 05 00:42:38 NeoLaptop: just did a request the other day for Nvu Jan 05 00:42:43 Zalamander : install superkaramba, get "modules", open it. Jan 05 00:42:54 Ah. Gdesklets used XML files for the actual graphical parts..... Jan 05 00:42:57 so wait, this clock is just a python module? Jan 05 00:43:12 ok.. Python vs. Perl.. I've never used python, but I really don't get why people say that perl syntax is 'arcane' or 'crazy'.. Jan 05 00:43:22 And the display could communicate with a Python "Sensor" (program...) Jan 05 00:43:24 seems very sane to me.. then again, I grew up on Pascal. Jan 05 00:43:26 Zalamander : no. superkaramba...it use phyton language Jan 05 00:43:34 Legendre, because they are stupid Jan 05 00:43:37 Legendre it's just got a lot of symbols and markings in it. Jan 05 00:43:44 Legendre, you can't compare the two, they're intended to do entirely different things. Jan 05 00:43:50 --> WhiteRabbit (~3am@whiterabbit.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:43:53 no they aren't, for the last time Jan 05 00:43:59 mheath - really? Jan 05 00:44:01 Perl is for text extraction, processing, and reports. Python is a full featured scripting language. Jan 05 00:44:02 they are for similar purposes Jan 05 00:44:06 stop saying that Jan 05 00:44:15 and Perl is for much more than that Jan 05 00:44:23 perl seems very robust to me.. Jan 05 00:44:27 superkaramba doesn't have alot of applets and with the latest version ALOT of the old applets that ppl did not update will not work, gDesklets is better for applet support right now, and there are alot more applets for it Jan 05 00:44:42 Perl is quite robust, not to mention sexy Jan 05 00:44:42 --> Artimus (~Artimus@66-168-2-157.cli.wi.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:44:52 Xgates, hey, btw, do you service -current? i prefer -current, but i can use 10 if i have to ... Jan 05 00:44:55 Perl is designed to be compact and flexible. Python is designed to be clean, simple, and readable. Jan 05 00:44:59 Legendre, it's grown to be moderately robust, but I have trouble viewing much of that as more than crufty extensions :D Jan 05 00:45:11 PERL : Perl, sEx Reminder Language................ Jan 05 00:45:32 mheath - as I said, I've never written python. But the snips of code I saw looked really cryptic compared to perl. Jan 05 00:45:34 --> helly (~kgb@adsl-68-78-121-113.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:45:58 Legendre you sure you saw python? it's usually not cryptic at all Jan 05 00:46:06 NeoLaptop: no Slackcare is ONLY for the Stable state of Slackware, for whatever version it happens to be, which is 10.0, because the "current" tree is not stable, so to make packs for distribution like Slackcare "current" is not a good idea to keep peoples systems stable Jan 05 00:46:10 Zalamander - yeah.. it was the bittorrent stuff. Jan 05 00:46:18 <-- radi0head has quit ("bbl") Jan 05 00:46:20 wow... this channel is heavily commented Jan 05 00:46:28 Papyrus - heh Jan 05 00:46:37 ### Welcome to ##slackware Jan 05 00:46:53 hehe Jan 05 00:47:00 Legendre, yeah. Perl can be simple.....But keep in mind that perl is the Practical Extraction and Report Language. It was originally intedended only for text processing Jan 05 00:47:01 Xgates, ah, ok. do you have kde 3.3.x for slack 10? Jan 05 00:47:12 (Though you can do more than that with it, now....) Jan 05 00:47:18 mheath - heh, yeah.. I know the basic premise of it. Jan 05 00:47:19 <-- Zalamander has quit ("-") Jan 05 00:47:41 but we all know Fortran is not just for analyzing formulas ;) Jan 05 00:47:56 Ugh. Fortran scares me.... Jan 05 00:48:01 NeoLaptop: no because alot of packs that use Kde, and QT then they can't be compiled Jan 05 00:48:02 err, translating as it were. Jan 05 00:48:03 --> spenser (~spenser@user-0c8hmse.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:48:07 Thats The Language That Would Not Die. Jan 05 00:48:15 I thought that was cobol! Jan 05 00:48:24 --> abby (1000@83.133.13.123) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:48:31 Cobol scares me even more! Jan 05 00:48:37 you know that joke about the cobol programmers that get frozen in suspended animation? Jan 05 00:48:38 COBOL IS FUN. Jan 05 00:48:40 Hey, anyone interested in VMware should try out beta 5 Jan 05 00:48:41 ...... Jan 05 00:48:42 Fortran, at least, was a nice, fast, elegant language........ Jan 05 00:48:44 it's free for testing Jan 05 00:48:46 DONT YOU AGREE. Jan 05 00:48:48 Cobol, though...ugh. Jan 05 00:48:55 In case ya don't have the money Jan 05 00:48:58 fortran is tried and true Jan 05 00:49:07 been around forever Jan 05 00:49:18 I remeber learning FORTH. Now THAT is a messed up language. Jan 05 00:49:33 it'll expire after awhile though :( Jan 05 00:49:40 Legendre, you're wasting Perl hacking time Jan 05 00:49:41 Xgates, why can't they be compiled? Jan 05 00:49:45 go pick up a Perl book Jan 05 00:49:57 * Papyrus haves 20 $ for buying SDRAM Jan 05 00:49:58 i mean, what advantage would i have with slackcare versus -current ? Jan 05 00:49:59 PERL is obtuse, but it's a good language Jan 05 00:49:59 Squall` - I have perl books.. just musing on the topic. Jan 05 00:50:14 NeoLaptop, security updates? Jan 05 00:50:22 don't you dare call it crap like 'PERL' Jan 05 00:50:24 the software for my cd transport is written in perl.. I wrote it. Jan 05 00:50:26 NeoLaptop: I have wuite of few apps that compile against Kde, so Slackcare uses another version of Kde, then what is in 10.0 these apps will have to be compiled against, and throw things off Jan 05 00:50:30 PERL isn't crap Jan 05 00:50:42 NeoLaptop: wuite/quite of/a few ....... Jan 05 00:50:56 but yeah, for processing / parsing text files, perl is just the best. Jan 05 00:50:58 it's Perl for the langauage or perl for the debugger/interpreter Jan 05 00:51:13 don't call it something stupid like PERL, it sounds communistic Jan 05 00:51:17 Squall`, PERL is an acronym. Jan 05 00:51:21 lol Jan 05 00:51:27 Acronyms are traditionally capitalized. Jan 05 00:51:27 Practical Extraction and Report Language Jan 05 00:51:34 Putz, security updates? -current is up to date. Jan 05 00:51:35 PERL really can makes people "hot" Jan 05 00:51:41 it saved my neck when I had to change an ip in like 80+ zone files :) Jan 05 00:51:42 no.. PERL = Perl Easily Replaces Legendre Jan 05 00:51:43 NeoLaptop, are you using current? Jan 05 00:51:44 Xgates: ping Jan 05 00:51:49 Xgates, ah, so it's quite a few Jan 05 00:51:52 Putz, yep Jan 05 00:51:55 NeoLaptop, cause I thought you meant youw ere using 10.0 over current Jan 05 00:51:58 mheath, SHUT UP!!!!! Perl doesn't follow the acrynom rules Jan 05 00:51:59 heh, my mistake Jan 05 00:52:00 ! Jan 05 00:52:03 you commie Jan 05 00:52:11 go back to Russia. Jan 05 00:52:23 <-- [NMFTRBTFS]helly has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 00:52:23 :/ Jan 05 00:52:26 lol Jan 05 00:52:26 they're not communist anymore Jan 05 00:52:27 NeoLaptop: yes, alot eaiser just to stay in the Stable of Slackware then start going outside it when you start building lots of packs Jan 05 00:52:31 minux: ? Jan 05 00:52:31 wtf, I got it from tiger direct it's a http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:4ChxRlnAyaIJ:www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Category/category_slc.asp%3Fpage%3D2%26CatId%3D792+ultra+copper+core+tmd+fan&hl=en Jan 05 00:52:32 dummy Jan 05 00:52:37 Putz, oh, no, -current Jan 05 00:52:43 Xgates, makes sense Jan 05 00:52:48 Jan 05 00:52:48 Ultra Socket A Copper Core TMD CPU Fan For AMD Athlon Processors up to XP3200 Jan 05 00:52:49 NeoLaptop, I gathered that now heh Jan 05 00:52:53 Xgates: Are you from USA or Japan? Jan 05 00:53:01 minux: USA Jan 05 00:53:16 Putz - ever seen the moive 'Top Secret'? Where they are never quite sure if the east Germans are Russians or Nazis? :) Jan 05 00:53:27 they just keep mixing the idioms. Jan 05 00:53:28 Xgates: Cool :) I read that document you gave me, I saw 'Japanese' in there Jan 05 00:53:30 Legendre, no, sounds interesting... Jan 05 00:53:39 --> slackd00d (~bacardi@slackd00d.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:53:41 well, I need to get my game fix, bbl' Jan 05 00:53:42 <-- Putz has quit ("Hey, look; a grenade without a pin!") Jan 05 00:53:50 minux: ahh I lived and worked in Japan before :-) Jan 05 00:53:52 Putz - Slapstick schlock from the 80;s, but a funny watch. Jan 05 00:53:58 dangit, i should so grab xfce and use it Jan 05 00:54:05 <-- omero (~user@host87-25.pool80182.interbusiness.it) has left ##slackware ("ZOT!") Jan 05 00:54:06 minux: now I'm trying to get work in Europe Jan 05 00:54:08 4.2-rc3 Jan 05 00:54:26 Xgates : how old are you ? Jan 05 00:54:33 Xgates: sweet, I'd like to learn Japanese but I don't have the time :) Jan 05 00:54:38 NeoLaptop: ahh as soon as Xfce goes stable, Slackcare will compile that Jan 05 00:54:39 Xgates: What country? Jan 05 00:54:39 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:54:48 Papyrus: 44 Jan 05 00:55:16 minux : checkout kannasaver. it haves hiragana and katakana letter Jan 05 00:55:17 minux: anywhere, because once you belong to the Euro community, you can go and live and work anywhere in Europe, so that is my goal Jan 05 00:55:36 minux: anywhere I can find work in anything I have skills in Jan 05 00:56:09 Xgates: good, but be sure to visit Sweden :P cold and nice weather Jan 05 00:56:19 lol Jan 05 00:56:23 minux: you from there? Jan 05 00:56:42 yeah Jan 05 00:56:47 yeah, this is the cpu fan I have but doesn't seem to be working all that well... http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-detailsInactive.asp?EdpNo=579300 Jan 05 00:56:47 minux: ok to PM you Jan 05 00:56:59 <-- mheath has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 05 00:57:08 it said that it has 5600rpm Jan 05 00:57:12 Xgates, that's ok, i was going to use the -rc3 Jan 05 00:57:15 Xgates: Of course Jan 05 00:57:33 NeoLaptop: yeah I've had my eye on it when it goes stable Jan 05 00:57:35 minux: thx Jan 05 00:58:08 yeah. i used rc2, never had a problem with it. Jan 05 00:58:08 --> Kurt (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:58:24 <-- Kurt has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 00:58:27 it was actually very cool, has a mandrake-style (sort of, for lack of a comparison) application menu Jan 05 00:58:58 --> milkmutt (~milkmutt@210.50.148.2) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:59:01 brb compile time Jan 05 00:59:01 <-- NeoLaptop has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:59:01 --> konqueror (45@200216147197.user.veloxzone.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 00:59:14 <-- konqueror (45@200216147197.user.veloxzone.com.br) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 05 00:59:36 --> ryen (~ryen@dsl-082-083-224-020.arcor-ip.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:00:06 * Papyrus rebooting his brain Jan 05 01:00:14 --> Cyberax (~Cyberax@cpc3-stoc1-4-1-cust72.midd.cable.ntl.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:00:56 --> Kurt (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:00:59 <-- Kurt has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 01:01:02 <-- Dominian has quit ("brb") Jan 05 01:01:05 Does anyone use any IDS other than snort, like tripwire although preferably aide or integrit? Jan 05 01:01:18 --> Kurt (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:01:33 --> Squidy (~Squidy@200-103-007-168.cbabm7004.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:01:55 --- dwolf is now known as dwolf_ Jan 05 01:02:00 --> NeoLaptop (~NeoLaptop@cs6668186-12.austin.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:02:41 * unixfool doesn't consider tripwire to be an ids Jan 05 01:02:50 --> tevz (tevz@core.wehid.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:02:52 --> FinalStrike (~FinalStri@200.250.23.41) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:02:57 ahh... ah... ah... achooooooo! Jan 05 01:03:03 * Squall` sneezes all over ##slackware Jan 05 01:03:13 dunno what aide or integrit is Jan 05 01:03:44 good evening! \o Jan 05 01:03:47 <-- dwolf_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 01:03:51 --> _Hitek_ (~Hitek@ALille-209-1-5-120.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:03:54 * unixfool should remember to use tripwire right after his next install Jan 05 01:03:58 <-- tevz (tevz@core.wehid.net) has left ##slackware Jan 05 01:03:59 hi FinalStrike Jan 05 01:04:05 why slackware is not using utf8 by default as locale? Jan 05 01:04:19 utf == sux0rz Jan 05 01:04:31 unixfool: aide and integrit are like tripwire except GPL Jan 05 01:04:32 --> [NMFTRBTFS]helly (~kgb@adsl-68-78-117-94.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:04:50 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:04:55 Squall`: well this could be a good explanation hehe Jan 05 01:04:57 unixfool, man, i am having problems with the ogm support of the kde... do you know somone having the same problem when updated the kde to the 3.3.2 version? Jan 05 01:05:00 --> dwolf (~unknown@adsl-64-216-107-49.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:05:04 <-- str has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 01:05:06 Jeebus, Samba has alot of overhead Jan 05 01:05:13 nordle: i dunno....i should restate that....never heard of aide or integrit Jan 05 01:05:27 aide? Integrit? WTF? Jan 05 01:05:57 unixfool: I wasn't asking :) I was saying that aide and integrit ARE like tripwire Jan 05 01:06:29 did someone had the same problem with the ogm support in kde 3.3.2? Jan 05 01:06:34 <-- dwolf has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 01:06:43 ogm? Jan 05 01:06:50 omg ? Jan 05 01:06:53 yep Jan 05 01:06:57 ogm sound files Jan 05 01:06:59 Does anyone use any IDS other than snort, like tripwire although preferably aide or integrit? Jan 05 01:07:06 looks like a question to me Jan 05 01:07:07 :oP Jan 05 01:07:08 --> haddock (~haddock@h24n2c1o1119.bredband.skanova.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:07:13 ^^ Jan 05 01:07:41 Straterra: You know snort is used to detect port scans and various other intrusion attempts, well tripwire + aide + Integrit are similar IDS's except they actually tell what files were changed by whoever got access to your system. So you have a firewall, then snort, then aide.... Jan 05 01:07:43 * unixfool doesn't use kde Jan 05 01:07:53 snort is a sniffer Jan 05 01:07:57 --> Kurt3 (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:08:08 that's the ids's i'm used to Jan 05 01:08:10 brb Jan 05 01:08:20 --> kspud (~kspudIII@ip68-102-246-114.ks.ok.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:08:47 --> Dominian (~dominian@dominian.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:09:18 <-- Cirkit has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 05 01:09:18 sleepy........ Jan 05 01:09:43 --> assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:09:43 someone eles uses the swaret program? Jan 05 01:09:50 --> KaioRafael (~kaio@200.242.79.130) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:09:51 <-- Kurt has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 01:10:00 FinalStrike, swaret isn't supported here Jan 05 01:10:04 Either is slapt-get Jan 05 01:10:06 * Papyrus never heard swaret before Jan 05 01:10:16 Straterra : why not ? Jan 05 01:10:22 hmmm Jan 05 01:10:37 Papyrus, because they are unnofficial and they break machines Jan 05 01:10:45 That is the official stance of the # Jan 05 01:10:53 break machnes? Jan 05 01:10:54 <-- zaphar has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 05 01:10:56 machines* Jan 05 01:10:58 i c... Jan 05 01:10:59 oO Jan 05 01:11:04 FinalStrike, yes..it breaks Slack installations Jan 05 01:11:18 what's swaret and slapt-get do ? updating packages ? Jan 05 01:11:28 Papyrus, yeah Jan 05 01:11:46 --> tevz (tevz@core.wehid.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:11:47 they break dance and they you die... Jan 05 01:11:54 Straterra : lol..... Jan 05 01:11:56 s/they/then/ Jan 05 01:11:58 i c Jan 05 01:12:15 the dependencies are still a problem when upgrade some OS compnents... Jan 05 01:12:22 <-- carlosm has quit () Jan 05 01:13:50 unixfool: when your back, my first question was a question yes, but you said "i dunno...i should restate that" after I had typed "aide and integrit are like tripwire" which was in response to your statement that you didn't know what integrit or aide was....simple, just follow the stuff in order :) Anyway, I think I'll just try integrit and see if it works, kept getting seg faults on aide, but as no one here appears to be using it theres no proof that it Jan 05 01:13:50 should work anyway... Jan 05 01:14:04 :( hi all Jan 05 01:14:10 assd, \o Jan 05 01:14:23 o/ Jan 05 01:14:26 quit Jan 05 01:14:27 <-- Dominian has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 01:14:30 :P Jan 05 01:14:35 <-- KaioRafael has quit ("Fui embora") Jan 05 01:14:37 guys... there is a release date for the dlack 10.1? Jan 05 01:14:47 FinalStrike, no Jan 05 01:14:54 i have problem for install a printer in my dear slackware Jan 05 01:14:58 <-- snuva has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 01:14:58 ask volkerding for that Jan 05 01:15:07 You can subscribe and get it for $24.95!! Jan 05 01:15:21 FinalStrike: u can help me? Jan 05 01:15:24 * phrag has subscription Jan 05 01:15:30 In UK, thats like £17.50 including shipping! Jan 05 01:15:40 24,95 x 2,70 + shipping for me... ^^i live in Brazil XD \o\ Jan 05 01:15:48 crazy value :) Jan 05 01:15:50 XGizzmo: charging wireless headphones now =P Jan 05 01:16:24 assd, whatz the matta? Jan 05 01:16:26 phrag, mine need batteries, ick Jan 05 01:16:39 Straterra: we are setting up voip Jan 05 01:16:48 phrag, aaaah Jan 05 01:16:55 Anyone know if Slackware's GCC is capable of cross compiling? Jan 05 01:16:59 (I assume it is) Jan 05 01:17:00 <-- Kurt3 has quit (Connection reset by peer) Jan 05 01:17:04 phrag: me too has subscription, but feel very slightly guilty that Im getting slack 10.1 for like £17.50, considering what Pats gone through to produce it...but thats just the rate... Jan 05 01:17:34 nordle: i leeched the store too, to show my support =) Jan 05 01:17:39 and the goodies were nice Jan 05 01:17:41 FinalStrike: i can't install printer Jan 05 01:17:44 with no import fees Jan 05 01:17:51 nordle: UK Jan 05 01:18:07 Hmm Jan 05 01:18:10 assd, printer... the eternal problem.. XD Jan 05 01:18:14 How much do the 10.1 CD's cost? Jan 05 01:18:20 --> Kurt (~kmw@evvlinlwt-nas-03-s196.cinergycom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:18:29 phrag: how soon after slackware releases do you get the CD set from subscription? Jan 05 01:18:32 phrag: It was $24.95 for slack + $9 for shipping Jan 05 01:18:36 Ouch Jan 05 01:18:38 that's expensive Jan 05 01:18:46 acidkill: not sure, only subscribed recently Jan 05 01:18:47 <-- jmedina has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 01:18:48 <-- haddock (~haddock@h24n2c1o1119.bredband.skanova.com) has left ##slackware Jan 05 01:18:50 assd, did you anabled the printer support in rc.modules? or embeded it in the kernel? Jan 05 01:19:01 Straterra: are you joking ? Jan 05 01:19:05 <-- experience has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 01:19:06 phrag, no Jan 05 01:19:15 Artimus, id assume it isnt... Jan 05 01:19:16 Straterra: your windows cost >$200 am i right ? Jan 05 01:19:18 expensive!! he's giving it away virtually.....oh wait :) Jan 05 01:19:26 phrag, yes but none of it came outta my pocket Jan 05 01:19:27 i should buy printer. but damn, those RAM is sooo tempting..... Jan 05 01:19:35 sladegen: Damn, I've gotta compile my packages in a 64-bit environment, then... Jan 05 01:19:42 FinalStrike: uhm, let me se Jan 05 01:19:48 Straterra: what does that have to do with anything ? Jan 05 01:20:00 the cost of the product is what you are complaining about Jan 05 01:20:06 phrag, because this $34 would come outta my pocket Jan 05 01:20:14 phrag, I'm complaining because I don't have $34 Jan 05 01:20:23 Artimus: I saw a KDE developer is running Slack and doing his own 64-bit version, I could look for link if you fancy it? Jan 05 01:20:24 and if you paid for your copy of windows it would do too Jan 05 01:20:36 nordle: Yeah, that'd help Jan 05 01:20:41 I would be REALLY complaining if I paid for this Windows Jan 05 01:21:10 well someone did, unless you are running pirated material, which would not surprise me Jan 05 01:21:13 Though I don't think that they'd take my packages. I'm adding dependancy information to them, which would probably break the concept of Slack... Jan 05 01:21:22 * NeoLaptop builds xfce-4.2-RC3 via scripts ... :D Jan 05 01:21:25 <-- helly has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 05 01:21:39 --> Dominian (~dominian@dominian.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:21:40 and that is a main problem... nobody pays for windows, uses OSS apps on windows... still not paying; Linux will get nowhere in these conditions Jan 05 01:21:45 Straterra: Dont you reckon that a near death experiance and all the hard work that goes into keeping Slack Slack and not going down the "we must aim for the desktop", whatever the feck that means, is worth $34!!! Jan 05 01:22:04 there is anything like you build you own tgzs by your own.... Jan 05 01:22:14 \o\ Jan 05 01:22:16 nordle, don't you think I should spend $34 on gas to get to school before I buy Slackware with it? Jan 05 01:22:21 With no job, $34 is hard to come by Jan 05 01:22:30 i'm glad patrick doesn't aim for the "desktop" with Slackware, as it's more stable than all other "desktop" distros Jan 05 01:22:39 phrag, this is a fully legal, store bought Windows XP Home edition Jan 05 01:22:47 it is a holiday in cambodia!!! Jan 05 01:22:48 therefore someone paid Jan 05 01:22:57 phrag, yeah.. Jan 05 01:23:07 Straterra: screw school, walk! Jan 05 01:23:11 so imagine if they had not, and bought slackware Jan 05 01:23:12 pay for ruWindows? it more fun to pay for a Linux Distro. it's cheap and help the devteam... XD the good action for the day.... \o\ /o/ Jan 05 01:23:16 jog Jan 05 01:23:21 nordle, walk..It's a half hour drive Jan 05 01:23:21 how much change would they have in their pocket Jan 05 01:23:36 which you could take extra trips to school with on a weekend Jan 05 01:23:41 quittt, holyday in cambodia? lol. Jan 05 01:23:41 teleport TT Jan 05 01:23:43 ^^ Jan 05 01:23:44 phrag, alot..but then I would be running Win98SE instead of XP, because they wouldn't have stayed with Slack Jan 05 01:23:50 I have tried to convert them, but noo Jan 05 01:23:58 phrag: or get more lap dances :-D Jan 05 01:23:59 They hate anything except what they know Jan 05 01:24:00 FinalStrike DEAD KENNEDYS Jan 05 01:24:12 raindog: no more! Jan 05 01:24:20 =P Jan 05 01:24:37 heh Jan 05 01:24:41 Straterra: I wasn't being serious, all Im saying is that its GPL, if you can't afford it thats your business, get it from a mate or whatever, but all Im saying is that $34 for Slackware 10.1 is a steal! Jan 05 01:24:44 ooo Jan 05 01:24:57 nordle, How about..$0 and I download it? THAT is a steal Jan 05 01:25:33 nordle : 34 $ + slackware tatoo that says " i am geek " IS a steal Jan 05 01:25:43 l0l Jan 05 01:25:50 geek tatoo Jan 05 01:25:52 Straterra: how can you download it? Surely your not running an expensive monthly broadband connection :) Jan 05 01:25:54 Straterra, You're parents are paying for internet to, it's not exactly $0 Jan 05 01:26:02 eelriver, Again..$0 for me Jan 05 01:26:11 <-- quittt has quit ("Vision[0.9.6-0203]: i've been blurred!") Jan 05 01:26:13 nordle, Sure I am..but I am not paying for it Jan 05 01:26:24 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:26:30 --> ctg (~ctg@adsl-81-7-109-50.takas.lt) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:26:31 --> Putz (~putz@ame-broadband2-ws-60.dsl.airstreamcomm.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:26:50 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:26:51 how about " I LOVE COMPILING " tatoo ?? Jan 05 01:26:58 <-- Putz has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 01:27:01 discussion about useless junk: 0$ Jan 05 01:27:02 --> Putz (~putz@ame-broadband2-ws-60.dsl.airstreamcomm.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:27:13 <-- abby has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 01:27:18 * NeoLaptop already has a "i love compiling" tatoo on his ass for other rpm distros to kiss Jan 05 01:27:22 downloading slackware: $0 Jan 05 01:27:30 let's put some "I am piping" tatoo on the groin ? Jan 05 01:27:30 pimp slapping a punk: Priceless Jan 05 01:27:48 Maybe "SO WHAT IS A BSOD?" Jan 05 01:27:50 Stealing Windows XP and getting cought by the government : $50,000 Jan 05 01:28:00 Straterra, hehe more than that Jan 05 01:28:00 BRB Jan 05 01:28:01 hahaha Jan 05 01:28:04 <-- FriedBob has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 01:28:13 "WHO IS BOFH?" Jan 05 01:28:19 <-- Dominian has quit ("I'm out for a bit") Jan 05 01:28:32 put some "this is tunneling" tatto on your ass Jan 05 01:28:40 Straterra, You better save up buy the Slack CDs before they block your internet from anything with "linux" in it. Once they find out how addicting it is, you never know.. Jan 05 01:28:43 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:28:51 eelriver, they already know I use Linux Jan 05 01:29:16 But do they know about your "problem"? Jan 05 01:29:41 Can you stop whenever you want? Jan 05 01:29:50 Papyrus, LOL Jan 05 01:29:50 ouch.... i put some GNU/Linux Splash screen on my Win 98SE. is that ILLEGAL ?? Jan 05 01:30:01 Papyrus: http://lavamonkeys.com/img/tat.jpg :D Jan 05 01:30:02 Papyrus, win98se is illegal according to the DoJ, go figure Jan 05 01:30:11 NeoLaptop : lol Jan 05 01:30:33 --> W|GG-Laptop (~deez@ip68-98-179-238.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:30:56 i think i want to put some "ENCRYPTED" slogan on the front side of my underwear Jan 05 01:31:04 ? Jan 05 01:31:07 jeez Jan 05 01:31:15 lol. Joking Jan 05 01:31:18 =) Jan 05 01:31:22 <-- Cyberax has quit ("L8r dudes") Jan 05 01:31:27 Anyway, off to bed now. Good night! Jan 05 01:31:34 or.... "piping".... Jan 05 01:31:36 --> newbie^ (1000@85.96.96.21) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:31:37 night Jan 05 01:31:41 Papyrus, LOL Jan 05 01:31:44 man.. i almost jumped the window(i live in the 7th flood) today... my cedega could not install the "Ragnarok Online" game... Jan 05 01:31:49 how can i create a bootable cd from my bzImage file? Jan 05 01:32:03 i use cdrecord for burning cds. Jan 05 01:32:25 Artimus: Its in his blog where he sais "running Gentoo until I finish making a 64-bit version of Slackware." http://fredemmott.co.uk/index.php?page=blog Jan 05 01:32:38 raindog : that was "love" Jan 05 01:32:40 --> FrEYEdBob (NoIdent@adsl-68-92-123-114.dsl.spfdmo.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:32:44 nordle: I have Gentoo installed, but I'm sick of it already... Jan 05 01:33:07 <-- FriedBob has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 01:33:07 --- FrEYEdBob is now known as FriedBob Jan 05 01:33:09 Artimus : yeah....i don't like gentoo Jan 05 01:33:10 when my mom say: "why did you install the win2k in the pc just for gamming? it is better that way"... i almost fainted angry Jan 05 01:33:10 <-- FriedBob has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 05 01:33:36 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:34:17 Papyrus: I only installed it for the compiler Jan 05 01:34:26 Artimus: I was just quoting the section in this guys blog, the crucial part is "until I finish making a 64-bit version of Slackware." so you could if you want to mail him to see about leafing it once its done, might be worth a shot. Jan 05 01:34:29 But if I can just use a cross compiler... Jan 05 01:34:43 Oi Jan 05 01:34:46 --> StevenR (~sr@jtrobsonsys.demon.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:34:49 oi Jan 05 01:34:59 more brazilians online? lol Jan 05 01:35:02 english here man Jan 05 01:35:13 \o FinalStrike <<< br too XD Jan 05 01:35:13 Any idea what pat uses for CFLAGS when he compiles? Jan 05 01:35:32 CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i486 -mcpu=i686" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=i486 -mcpu=i686" ./configure --prefix=/usr Jan 05 01:35:49 --> jmedina (~jmedina@63.70.73.227) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:35:51 Artimus, you can find that info in probably most of the slackbuild scripts Jan 05 01:36:05 StevenR: I picked one without them, by mistake Jan 05 01:36:25 Artimus one trick to find out is got the source and look in the slack.build scripts :) Jan 05 01:36:33 got/goto Jan 05 01:36:40 --> nachox (~marambio@200-122-57-177.dsl.prima.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:36:43 Artimus, well nordle has supplied some for you, and they look right to me Jan 05 01:36:55 oneforall: I know, I only picked one to look at. It didn't have CFLAGS set Jan 05 01:36:59 bib bib bob Jan 05 01:37:01 I should have checked more of them Jan 05 01:37:09 I'm thinking -march=k8 -O2 Jan 05 01:37:11 --> dwolf (~unknown@adsl-64-216-107-49.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:37:28 spongebob ! Jan 05 01:37:50 Artimus, what about -athlon64 or is this for opteron too? Jan 05 01:37:52 yeah dig dig ::::) not all do Jan 05 01:37:52 []pants Jan 05 01:38:04 hello friends, how can i create a bootable cd from my bzImage file? i use cdrecord for burning cds.? Jan 05 01:38:10 <-- assd has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 01:38:15 nordle: k8, athlon64, and opteron are all the same Jan 05 01:38:23 <-- spenser has quit () Jan 05 01:38:26 i damn...i am a computer junkie Jan 05 01:38:26 According to Gentoo, that is Jan 05 01:38:31 newbie^, google for isolinux Jan 05 01:38:39 I dispise the fact that I'm depending on LFS and Gentoo here... Jan 05 01:38:46 oh ok Jan 05 01:38:52 StevenR, on google all links about livecd Jan 05 01:39:08 i wanna create image from my bzimage Jan 05 01:39:17 newbie^, isolinux is the bootable cd version of syslinux Jan 05 01:39:28 ok im searching Jan 05 01:40:02 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 01:40:18 --> str (~str@216.230.158.50) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:40:20 hip hip hop... Jan 05 01:40:29 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 Jan 05 01:40:40 * Squall` burns Papyrus Jan 05 01:40:46 --- nixor removes ban on *!*@207.172.254.149 Jan 05 01:40:57 --> adjacent (~postmaste@63.209.153.101) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:40:58 heuheuehue Jan 05 01:41:26 Papyrus, you missed out the parity and stop bits Jan 05 01:41:27 damn you Squall` , you just broke my interpreter ;P Jan 05 01:41:55 <-- FriedBob has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 05 01:41:58 * acidkill notes he makes excelent eggs. Jan 05 01:42:31 <-- chrej (~ej@roobol.xs4all.nl) has left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.9.0 : http://kopete.kde.org") Jan 05 01:42:44 --> Paspo (unique@202.155.89.198) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:42:57 <-- Papyrus has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 05 01:43:03 --- Paspo is now known as Papyrus Jan 05 01:43:16 meh Jan 05 01:43:51 --> abby (1000@83.133.10.81) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:43:51 --> assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:43:55 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:44:31 * Papyrus rebooting his brain Jan 05 01:44:33 A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous, got me? Jan 05 01:44:49 hmmm, Nova, on PBS at 8pm, has a thing about Mars and the rovers. Jan 05 01:44:51 --> diamonium (~diamonium@host81-7-57-52.surfport24.v21.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:44:51 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@*.surfport24.v21.co.uk Jan 05 01:44:51 <-- nixor has kicked diamonium from ##slackware (banned: durcanoll - swearing / flooding / trolling) Jan 05 01:45:01 acidkill - hey, thanks for reminding me! Jan 05 01:45:04 --> willwork4foo (~xxxx@cpc1-farn2-3-0-cust207.glfd.cable.ntl.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:45:17 and at 9, they have another show about mars. should be a good 2hrs. Jan 05 01:45:21 hey foo Jan 05 01:45:22 acidkill : pathfinder ? Jan 05 01:45:32 PBS? I would rather gouge my eyes out with a spork and watch The History Channel Jan 05 01:45:35 hrm...i dont think so. Jan 05 01:46:32 both are about Spirit. Jan 05 01:46:47 oh Jan 05 01:46:52 * tewmten burns some coconut incense :D Jan 05 01:47:03 hey nachox!!!!!!!!!! check this out dude... http://www.originaludderbalm.com/gear/nosewarmers.php Jan 05 01:47:08 tewmten: check out that link too dude Jan 05 01:47:11 it's hilarious Jan 05 01:47:15 tewmten: good stuff. Jan 05 01:47:19 I want one and so does my girlfriend Jan 05 01:47:25 dude I sooo need one of those Jan 05 01:47:47 how amazing are they? Jan 05 01:47:51 hye dude's some download acelerator? Jan 05 01:47:52 I'm going to order myself a custom one Jan 05 01:47:57 i wish i had a tivo.... Jan 05 01:48:03 assd: wget Jan 05 01:48:13 how d4x, prozilla Jan 05 01:48:17 brb Jan 05 01:48:22 <-- NeoLaptop has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 01:48:32 acidkill: I wish I was a little bit taller Jan 05 01:48:34 I wish I was a baller Jan 05 01:48:36 looks funny Jan 05 01:48:48 willwork4foo: do they ship to europe? Jan 05 01:48:53 tewmten: wget is a good option Jan 05 01:48:59 assd: that's why I suggested it Jan 05 01:49:01 --> root___ (~root@h000c417b8c61.ne.client2.attbi.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:49:02 --- nixor sets ban on *!~root@* Jan 05 01:49:02 <-- nixor has kicked root___ from ##slackware (banned: It is very dangerous to IRC as root. Please return under a user account.) Jan 05 01:49:03 wget -c --passive-ftp makes me drool Jan 05 01:49:11 tewmten: yep afaik Jan 05 01:49:38 --> NeoLaptop (~NeoLaptop@cs6668186-12.austin.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:49:41 oO Jan 05 01:49:45 wow Jan 05 01:49:56 logging in as root in the irc? man... Jan 05 01:50:07 \^0^/ Jan 05 01:50:24 tewmten: lol Jan 05 01:50:27 <-- slackd00_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 05 01:50:40 willwork4foo: i wish i had the number of a girl i would call her.... Jan 05 01:51:01 acidkill: took you a while... Jan 05 01:51:10 yea, was on my other desktop. Jan 05 01:51:12 I wish I had a rabbit in a hat Jan 05 01:51:12 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-216-77-192-2.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:51:30 and a bat...and a six foot...something. Jan 05 01:51:45 yeah - those lyrics get a bit wooly for me too Jan 05 01:51:46 something-something Jan 05 01:51:59 so anyway Jan 05 01:52:06 who's going to buy a nose mitten? Jan 05 01:52:15 lol Jan 05 01:52:20 someone with a big nose Jan 05 01:52:21 You got a nose mitten for sale? Jan 05 01:52:29 I've been looking for one for a while now. Jan 05 01:52:31 xfce 4.2-rc3 = kewl Jan 05 01:52:38 http://www.originaludderbalm.com/gear/nosewarmers.php Jan 05 01:52:43 At0mic_PC: look no further Jan 05 01:52:59 My quest has ended. Jan 05 01:53:13 <-- Squall` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 01:53:28 Ya know... Jan 05 01:53:31 ? Jan 05 01:53:50 --> goon12 (~Goon@cpe-66-189-35-129.ma.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:53:51 I was thinking "How could I make myself look more like a dork?" Jan 05 01:53:53 Then it hit me. Jan 05 01:53:57 NOSE MITTENS! Jan 05 01:54:13 :/ Jan 05 01:54:22 lol Jan 05 01:54:27 you already have pocket protectors? Jan 05 01:54:30 ROFL Jan 05 01:54:39 dorks dont need nose mittens... now storks... perhaps... Jan 05 01:54:47 installing win98 SE makes me looks like a dork... Jan 05 01:54:56 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 01:54:57 * nachox greets W|GG Jan 05 01:55:08 Papyrus: no, that makes you look like a mug Jan 05 01:55:11 Papyrus: Nah. just makes you look like you want to play games. Jan 05 01:55:34 installing slackware makes me looks like a MAN ! Jan 05 01:55:39 A MAN ! Jan 05 01:55:48 A woMAN Jan 05 01:55:49 Not A MAN.... Jan 05 01:55:52 THE MAN Jan 05 01:55:54 --- buzzedlightyear is now known as buzzed|work Jan 05 01:56:04 HE-MAN ! Jan 05 01:56:15 SU-PE-RR-MAN Jan 05 01:56:22 *gulps* I hate automated tools. This program is supposed to compile me a 64-bit glibc and gcc.... Jan 05 01:56:27 SHE-MAN Jan 05 01:56:31 STUUUUUUPER DUCK! Jan 05 01:56:32 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 01:57:50 what is loop device? Jan 05 01:57:51 meh, looks like someone is about to OD Jan 05 01:57:55 why i need it Jan 05 01:58:07 OD / Jan 05 01:58:10 OD ? Jan 05 01:58:17 * W|GG-Laptop really needs to download his email off his email server....671 emails in its inbox Jan 05 01:58:32 newbie^, for example: mount /some.iso /mnt/place -o loop Jan 05 01:58:32 OD == overdrive Jan 05 01:58:40 newbie^, e.g. to mount .isos Jan 05 01:58:46 W|GG-Laptop, almost ;) Jan 05 01:58:48 lol Jan 05 01:58:59 c'mon....... Jan 05 01:59:13 is it virtual device? Jan 05 01:59:18 i'm so tired i can barely see Jan 05 01:59:24 newbie^, yeah Jan 05 01:59:28 <-- Straterra has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 01:59:29 brb Jan 05 01:59:30 ok Jan 05 01:59:30 --- sami_ is now known as sami^ Jan 05 01:59:48 :/ Jan 05 01:59:49 i ll add it to my kernal as module i forgot it =)) Jan 05 02:00:36 newbie^, if you have "right" file... e.g. you can dd floppy disk or partition and mount it using loop Jan 05 02:01:24 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:01:37 hey...anyone know OASIS band ? Jan 05 02:01:44 do i need to add floppy disk to loop device? Jan 05 02:01:58 <-- Kurt has quit ("Total free-market capitalism: the ONLY moral system!") Jan 05 02:01:59 all of these mount actions for loop? Jan 05 02:02:32 <-- StevenR has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:02:48 dunno, if you are 'making menuconfig' then just leave it as M, it may come useful Jan 05 02:03:09 i did menuconfig im searching it=P Jan 05 02:03:20 <-- assd has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 02:05:14 i couldnt find loop dev support choice from menuconfig Jan 05 02:05:17 --> jota (~jota@201.243.212.145) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:06:33 --> assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:06:36 <-- goon12 has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:07:39 Papyrus: why about OASIS? Jan 05 02:08:20 nordle : you know OASIS ? Jan 05 02:08:30 --> PlugadA (1001@201.0.55.235) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:08:34 All your dreams are made, when your chained to the mirror and the razor blade, todays the day that all the world will see. Jan 05 02:08:56 nordle : they still exist ? Jan 05 02:09:04 :) Jan 05 02:09:10 yeah they still exist Jan 05 02:09:35 --> n2iko (n2iko@ool-182c5a59.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:09:43 aah... thought they gone Jan 05 02:09:55 They turn out once every couple of years, do a sell out gig at wembley, rake in 10m quid and then naff off again :) Jan 05 02:10:28 yeah.... Jan 05 02:10:45 they like, 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 Jan 05 02:11:01 <-- Dr_Stein has quit ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") Jan 05 02:11:15 <-- newbie^ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:11:22 right. I'm off to dream about wooly nose mittens Jan 05 02:11:49 (anyone who is totally confused about that remark, check out http://www.originaludderbalm.com/gear/nosewarmers.php for a fairly good explanation) Jan 05 02:12:08 night folks Jan 05 02:12:13 night Jan 05 02:12:20 <-- willwork4foo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:12:34 --> quittt (1000@200-170-123-107.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:12:38 maddox.xmission.org Jan 05 02:12:43 Still one of the best! But there are others too, like White Stripes, Travis, McFly, Stereophonics etc Jan 05 02:13:03 oh... what about rialto ? Jan 05 02:13:09 and coldplay ? Jan 05 02:14:08 * Papyrus listening to Oasis - Champagne Supernova Jan 05 02:14:21 <-- [Granger] has quit () Jan 05 02:14:48 <-- str has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:14:48 Coldplay are sound, rialto??? Are they the guys that sound a bit like pulp? Jan 05 02:14:53 <-- Squall` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:15:33 o no, wait, more like Madness Jan 05 02:15:33 yes. rialto Jan 05 02:15:42 madness ? Jan 05 02:16:23 <-- n2iko has quit ("leaving") Jan 05 02:16:32 <-- eelriver has quit () Jan 05 02:16:37 --> n2iko (n2iko@ool-182c5a59.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:17:35 http://www.madness.co.uk/home_frame.html Jan 05 02:17:43 <-- Putz has quit ("Hey, look; a grenade without a pin!") Jan 05 02:18:25 "Our House" was probably their most famous Jan 05 02:19:28 Papyrus: Are you in USA? Jan 05 02:19:45 <-- _Hitek_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:20:00 oh oh pulp pulp yeah i tried to remember that name... /me falls into senseless stupor... Jan 05 02:21:15 <-- msamsing has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 05 02:21:18 miscellaneous trivia: you have a machine you get a ping response for, but is not responding over the network/internet. why is this happening / what do you check first? Jan 05 02:21:52 not responding??? in what way Jan 05 02:22:03 --> Teratogen (~leontopod@intertwingled.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:22:19 its respoding, you just pinged it Jan 05 02:22:20 responds to ping, but does not respond to anything requiring a response, such as telnet/ssh/samba/nfs Jan 05 02:22:23 nope Jan 05 02:22:23 <-- quittt has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 02:22:33 ping requires a response ;) Jan 05 02:22:44 it could be that the machine has locked up Jan 05 02:23:06 usually ping will still work, but none of the daemons will. Jan 05 02:23:08 actually, it does, but one thing they don't say is that any DNS server that sees a ping for a host that has an entry will respond with a ping. the dns server is responding. Jan 05 02:23:11 NeoLaptop : iptables ? or do the demon running ? Jan 05 02:23:16 --> Putz (~putz@ame-broadband2-ws-60.dsl.airstreamcomm.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:23:30 so at a home LAN, a disconnected machine won't ping, but a machine with a public IP, dns might respond. Jan 05 02:23:31 With ssh + telnet, do you get a timeout or a "no route to host" error? Jan 05 02:23:55 NeoLaptop: dns and ip addresses are on two different layers Jan 05 02:24:02 youre confusing terms Jan 05 02:24:10 or "host is unreachable" Jan 05 02:24:14 --> quittt (dsadas@200-170-123-107.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:24:18 d_low, that's from my aunt quizzing me, she's IBM/AIX/Tivoli certified, works Tivoli support Jan 05 02:24:26 she had a machine in the netherlands do that Jan 05 02:24:26 ok, well shes wrong Jan 05 02:24:49 it's similar to the "well i can ping yahoo.com but i can't reach it as http://www.yahoo.com" Jan 05 02:25:02 ##slackware, eh? Jan 05 02:25:03 if i ping 64.218.5.55 then either that ip or its nat will respond, but it has nothing to do with dns Jan 05 02:25:04 since when? Jan 05 02:25:12 <-- quittt has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 02:25:14 NeoLaptop: like i said youre confusing ip and dns Jan 05 02:25:15 Teratogen, yesterday Jan 05 02:25:16 --> quittt (dsadas@200-170-123-107.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:25:17 yahoo.com is dns Jan 05 02:25:18 <-- n2iko has quit ("leaving") Jan 05 02:25:23 I lost control of my tty's Jan 05 02:25:25 but still, i told her that while i believe her, that's a really freaky dns server Jan 05 02:25:25 ip is 64.218.5.55 Jan 05 02:25:39 not really, ever heard of akamai? Jan 05 02:25:40 when I kill X, the last snapshot of the X session remains Jan 05 02:25:54 would anyone know why tty's won't come back up? Jan 05 02:25:57 akamai is evil Jan 05 02:26:08 akamai use to respond to alot of pings, but i dont think they do anymore Jan 05 02:26:14 at least not for yahoo or google. Jan 05 02:26:20 uhmm, why would a dns server respond to pings, which are not destined to it? Jan 05 02:26:21 akamai is evil, evil ad hosting :D Jan 05 02:26:27 --> usr13 (~gayle@65.127.78.140) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:26:35 akamai isnt adhosting. Jan 05 02:26:41 <-- Papyrus has quit () Jan 05 02:26:41 lol Jan 05 02:26:42 hey i'm not here to argue, just to quote interesting trivia Jan 05 02:26:47 <-- Tukon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 02:26:51 that trivia is wrong Jan 05 02:26:56 NeoLaptop: well, that trivia isnt correct Jan 05 02:27:06 --> FieldySnuts (jrL3eF35H6@fieldysnuts.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:27:09 dns doesnt respond to ip pings, thats rediculous Jan 05 02:27:12 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:27:20 <-- FieldySnuts (jrL3eF35H6@fieldysnuts.user) has left ##slackware (".") Jan 05 02:27:23 uh, ok, sure, she's worked 20+ networking with various *nix, i wasn't going to disagree, since she's paid much more than i am, and for supporting Tivoli Jan 05 02:27:29 dns servers may respond to domain name pings if its a caching dns server Jan 05 02:27:38 like in the case of akamai Jan 05 02:27:39 NeoLaptop : most likely you misread/misheard her Jan 05 02:27:47 ananke, possibly Jan 05 02:28:02 its correctly missleading... /me stupors on Jan 05 02:28:04 NeoLaptop : what you're talking is impossible. plain and simple. Jan 05 02:28:11 --> n2iko (n2iko@ool-182c5a59.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:28:11 yeap Jan 05 02:28:12 <-- Tukon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 02:28:28 <-- assd has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 02:28:29 its like saying you ssh into a machine and get the switch instead Jan 05 02:28:41 <-- n2iko has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 02:28:46 and the switch is unmanaged Jan 05 02:29:17 NeoLaptop : when you type 'ping whatever.com', your machine will perform a dns lookup, and will use the ip it got to do the actual work. traffic is routed via tcp/ip. it doesn't get to any dns server after that Jan 05 02:29:29 <-- abby has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 05 02:29:30 oh, ananke, btw, acpi does work for hibernate and suspend, i have it working right now Jan 05 02:29:38 ananke: icmp ;) Jan 05 02:29:42 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:29:50 --> assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:29:50 d_low : shh, damnit :) Jan 05 02:29:51 lol Jan 05 02:29:56 close enough tho Jan 05 02:30:00 d_low : but you're correct Jan 05 02:30:22 <-- WhiteRabbit has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 02:30:24 NeoLaptop : that's news to me. is it real hibernate/suspend or the software suspend? Jan 05 02:30:26 same difference really, at least its the same layer(kinda) Jan 05 02:30:28 icmp works on ether.... who knew, its back from the grave (ether i mean ;) Jan 05 02:30:40 <-- quittt has quit ("Vision[0.9.6-0203]: i've been blurred!") Jan 05 02:30:54 ananke, using klaptop, which is using acpid Jan 05 02:31:11 hibernate does kind of workes... suspending also if you give it some excercise Jan 05 02:31:18 thanks fhobia =) Jan 05 02:31:26 i'm right now sitting stomped over some silly perl cgi crap. developers got something working on one server, now after moving it elsewhere it doesn't work. however, it doesn't work in certain browsers only Jan 05 02:31:32 XGizzmo: rand fhobia fine, echo is your end Jan 05 02:31:48 almost like i'm hearing what your hearing, when you hear it Jan 05 02:32:11 hmm, is anybody using any browsers other than mozilla/firefox/konqueror/ie ? Jan 05 02:32:23 i have something i'd like to test Jan 05 02:32:35 --> quittt (dsadas@200-170-123-107.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:33:00 ananke, if you have a sec i can download opera Jan 05 02:33:01 ananke, galeon? epiphany? links? Lynx? Jan 05 02:33:15 NeoLaptop : galeon or epiphany would be great Jan 05 02:33:18 <-- nordle has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:33:27 k, here's the weird scenario Jan 05 02:33:31 ananke, sorry, i'm using -current, don't have it, but i can reboot into mandrake 10 and do it. you want me to? Jan 05 02:34:03 wroot Jan 05 02:34:15 since they are based on geko, youl probably get a similar responce with firefox Jan 05 02:34:25 first, go to http://patric.vbi.vt.edu , then go to 'Hepatitis A virus', then you will see a table. In that table, select 'gT' from the first row. at this point, you will get to a screen with images of bunch of arrors. click on the first one. Jan 05 02:35:18 ananke, i don't see a "gT" Jan 05 02:35:19 and i can't figure out wtf is the common link. some browsers at this point display a proper table, some don't. i've been already blaming it on the damn web developers Jan 05 02:35:42 NeoLaptop : it's in the table, second column, second item Jan 05 02:35:47 now everything you do are being LOGGED Jan 05 02:35:48 HAHA Jan 05 02:35:53 you have gB and gT Jan 05 02:35:55 I WILL CONQUER THIS WORLD Jan 05 02:35:56 ananke, ok, i don't get anything, it's saying i'll get something, i don't see anything Jan 05 02:36:10 NeoLaptop : yep, and that's the damn problem. Jan 05 02:36:25 ananke, your website?! Jan 05 02:36:40 NeoLaptop : huh? Jan 05 02:36:51 I've almost got my 64-bit toolchain (for cross compiling) setup ^_^ Jan 05 02:37:02 quittt, relax and dont caps Jan 05 02:37:16 =] Jan 05 02:37:20 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:38:11 ananke, its a new errorusing old code? Jan 05 02:38:36 (damn keyboard) Jan 05 02:38:48 nachox : the code was written and tested on another server. after being moved to the new server, it seems to quit working properly Jan 05 02:39:00 <-- Yamabushi has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 05 02:39:04 actually, you can still access the old server: http://staff.vbi.vt.edu/patric Jan 05 02:39:29 ananke, hmm, apache is configured the same way in both servers? same modules? Jan 05 02:39:35 hmm, nevermind, that's completely not working Jan 05 02:40:10 #slackware ##slackware :Forwarding to another channel Jan 05 02:40:22 what it means that? Jan 05 02:40:26 nachox : nope. similar, but the thing is that the original server had ton of things on it. we only set up the essential things on the new server. Jan 05 02:40:38 nachox : the problem is, i can't figure out what's affecting it. i get no errors in the logs Jan 05 02:40:44 hmm damn app is looking for db1 . we have db3 and 4 now Jan 05 02:40:57 jmedina, #slackware is now ##slackware Jan 05 02:41:08 it seems that session handling may be screwed up. i'm blaming the developers. they're blaming me. fun stuff Jan 05 02:41:28 Straterra, why? Jan 05 02:41:31 ananke, well, it will be a tedious process, but if there are no error logs then configure apache the same way, start taking out modules and pray Jan 05 02:41:40 jmedina, read the topic Jan 05 02:41:43 what happened with the old channel? Jan 05 02:41:53 jmedina, its the same channel Jan 05 02:42:46 i see nothing about the channel in the topic Jan 05 02:43:01 Read the urls Jan 05 02:43:10 <-- Squidy has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:44:51 <-- assd has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:45:33 ohhhh Jan 05 02:46:40 ananke: what would be the correct behaviour? with opera i got a page with a few links (view the whole replication,... ) Jan 05 02:46:57 --> fariseo (~fariseo@adsl-98-03-240.m-dsl.nextra.sk) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:47:21 --> VitaMint (n2iko@ool-182c5a59.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:47:39 --- nixor has changed the topic to: Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support Channel - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | 15 minute silence scheduled for Wednesday 5th January 2005 at 12:00pm UTC as a mark of respect for those killed in the recent Asian natural disaster and Argentinia Jan 05 02:48:10 <-- war- has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 05 02:48:50 --> assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:49:06 nachox : the correct behaviour is that there would be a table displayed Jan 05 02:49:12 long topic Jan 05 02:49:21 it seems that it's something with the code though Jan 05 02:50:43 nope, no table, just a few links Jan 05 02:50:46 kobs, -current update Jan 05 02:50:59 <-- Lepine has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 02:52:04 --> n2iko (n2iko@ool-182c5a59.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:53:01 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:54:08 --> mjt_ (~ryen@dsl-082-083-224-020.arcor-ip.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:55:53 --> snarf (~Jeff@12-220-134-83.client.insightBB.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:56:41 --> dadexter (~dadexter@modemcable032.0-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:56:50 meh...Nova was kinda week. Jan 05 02:56:51 pretty cool, but weak. Jan 05 02:56:54 <-- assd has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 02:57:08 --> _Derek_ (Derek@derek.iglou.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:57:57 <-- dwolf has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 02:58:48 --> usr13_ (~gayle@65.127.78.145) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 02:59:23 <-- VitaMint has quit ("leaving") Jan 05 02:59:23 <-- _Derek_ (Derek@derek.iglou.com) has left ##slackware Jan 05 03:00:01 <-- jmedina has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 03:00:09 i'm new to freenode, what's the deal with all the ##channels? Jan 05 03:00:22 snarf, ## channels are unofficial, # channels are official Jan 05 03:00:29 we're in ##slackware because Slackware does not officially endorse us Jan 05 03:00:38 ah Jan 05 03:00:50 * dadexter coughs Jan 05 03:01:04 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 05 03:01:10 I am going to email pat and ask him to endorse us Jan 05 03:01:22 so I don't have to see ## Jan 05 03:01:38 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 03:01:54 juice, that's pretty sad Jan 05 03:02:04 --> d3ity (1000@207.172.254.149) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 03:02:04 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@207.172.254.149 Jan 05 03:02:04 <-- nixor has kicked d3ity from ##slackware (banned: d3ity - perm ban - constant trolling) Jan 05 03:02:11 no what is sad is that the channel had to move Jan 05 03:02:29 <-- mjt_ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 03:03:47 <-- n2iko has quit ("leaving") Jan 05 03:05:11 * nachox wonders what did d3ity do this time Jan 05 03:05:33 <-- Straterra has quit (Client Quit) Jan 05 03:06:01 gn8 Jan 05 03:06:08 <-- boerst has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 05 03:06:26 --> seberino__ (~seberino@seberino.spawar.navy.mil) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 03:07:03 is cyrus-imapd the easiest and best imap linux app? Jan 05 03:07:33 cyrus being the easiest? nope Jan 05 03:07:50 besides, slackware comes with uw imap already. that's the easiest to set up and use Jan 05 03:08:24 ananke: thanks! but wait! Jan 05 03:08:41 ananke: ru saying there isn't a imap brand that is best and easiest on all linux distros? Jan 05 03:08:55 ananke: is uw only on slack? Jan 05 03:09:14 * acidkill runs his update.sh script to rsync with inferno...thanks again ananke. =) Jan 05 03:09:28 i are do not comprende. can you learn how to spell 'are you'? Jan 05 03:09:53 haha, ananke Jan 05 03:10:05 <-- usr13 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 05 03:10:07 ananke: k Jan 05 03:10:08 acidkill : np Jan 05 03:10:14 ananke lays the smackdown Jan 05 03:10:26 ananke: cyrus looks scary...is uw a cul de sac technology? Jan 05 03:11:00 seberino, depends. uw imap works. it may not be the fastest or the best, but it surely works. besides, uw wrote the first imap server. they came up with that technology. Jan 05 03:11:03 --> Dominian (~dominian@dominian.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 03:12:21 --> dwolf (~unknown@dwolf.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 03:12:26 --> keidon (xavier@cuscon3023.tstt.net.tt) has joined ##slackware Jan 05 03:12:31 ananke: hmmmm, what are the most popular imap competitors to uw and cyrus? Jan 05 03:13:09 courier, and that's about it. cyrus is probably the most flexibile and the fastest one out there Jan 05 03:13:24 depends on how many users you have, with how much mail **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 5 03:14:01 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 6 00:01:13 2005 Jan 06 00:01:13 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 06 00:01:13 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support Channel - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | Jan 06 00:01:13 --- Topic for ##slackware set by phrag at Wed Jan 5 13:16:34 2005 Jan 06 00:01:14 -ChanServ- [##slackware] #slackware has moved to ##slackware to fit the freenode channel ownership policies a bit better. If you've been forwarded from #slackware, please "/part #slackware" so your client won't be confused! Jan 06 00:01:14 --- ##slackware :[freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup Jan 06 00:01:36 i was thinking, the memory stick gets /dev/sr0 and the zip gets /dev/sr1, regardless of the order in which they're inserted Jan 06 00:01:50 because I may not always have both plugged in Jan 06 00:02:13 it's a pain in the ass to have to su to root to mount the damn things, and if i had fstab entries I could specify the 'users' option for the zip drive and the usb stick and be a lot happier :) Jan 06 00:02:16 never took time to look into this - but I tried with two memory sticks and they of course changed device number depending on the order of inserting. Jan 06 00:02:26 but you can use a rule like Jan 06 00:02:56 /dev/sr0 /mnt/stick vfat user 0 0 Jan 06 00:03:09 --> ctg (~ctg@adsl-81-7-108-123.takas.lt) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:03:10 I think every user can now mount that. Jan 06 00:03:14 yeah Jan 06 00:03:23 but /dev/sr0 might not be the usb stick Jan 06 00:03:46 yes- this is suckyness of the whole emulation stuff, isn't it! Jan 06 00:03:48 as I might just be using the zip drive at the time Jan 06 00:03:58 what MIGHT be the better option Jan 06 00:04:00 is to go Jan 06 00:04:14 is the zip usb too? Jan 06 00:04:26 ( yes of course it is) Jan 06 00:04:26 yeah, self powered :) Jan 06 00:04:33 My ZIP is IDE, :P Jan 06 00:04:39 well, the zip on tuxpower is IDE too Jan 06 00:04:45 but this is my laptop Jan 06 00:04:52 --> spenser (~spenser@user-0c8hmse.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:04:57 (going to college starting tomorrow) Jan 06 00:04:57 ok, I don't know that much of the whole usb subsystem stuff, but can't you use something with alias in modules.conf Jan 06 00:04:58 no. Jan 06 00:05:08 /dev/sr0 /mnt/rsd1 vfat noauto,user 0 0 (removable storage drive 1) Jan 06 00:05:12 chris-^: cool where you going? Jan 06 00:05:14 /dev/sr1 /mnt/rsd2 vfat noauto,user 0 0 (removable storage drive 2) Jan 06 00:05:27 Alsa has some kind of interface for this for soundcars. maybe something similar can be done for usb Jan 06 00:05:29 and then regardless of which one gets plugged in first Jan 06 00:05:40 they both have fstab entries Jan 06 00:05:43 yes Jan 06 00:05:47 that's true Jan 06 00:05:52 XGizzmo: nowhere special; just the community college Jan 06 00:05:56 but you'll never know wich one is where what Jan 06 00:05:56 yes I will! Jan 06 00:06:01 if i plug the zip in firrst Jan 06 00:06:05 the zip gets /dev/sr0 Jan 06 00:06:07 yup. Jan 06 00:06:15 so I will know by the order in which I insert the devices Jan 06 00:06:27 I want to be able to see if it is my zip, and mount it on /mnt/zip, or my usb, and mount it on /mnt/stick Jan 06 00:06:42 We should have a hack so we can use winmodems as POS soundcards. Jan 06 00:06:47 yeah, me too... Jan 06 00:08:02 DarkTide: Slack 10.0 tries to use my AC'97 modem controller's speaker as /dev/dsp Jan 06 00:08:02 <-- Analyzer has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 06 00:08:02 so I can't use the modem on my laptop for this reason :P Jan 06 00:08:02 chris-^: Does it work? Jan 06 00:08:02 No Jan 06 00:08:02 --> W|GG-Laptop (~deez@ip68-98-179-238.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:08:02 :( Jan 06 00:08:02 That would be sweet. Jan 06 00:08:02 frankb: that's what I'm trying to do too.. but I'm not sure if it's possiblwe Jan 06 00:08:02 I guess that's too much to ask on linux Jan 06 00:08:02 --> Analyzer (~Analyzer@ts3-a233.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:08:08 heya Jan 06 00:08:08 I mean, theoretically, we should somehow be able to store the device ID's somewhere Jan 06 00:08:28 it all boils down to the emulation where you can't make up what is what anymore Jan 06 00:08:34 chris-^: /dev/dsp is a symbolic link you can change it Jan 06 00:08:41 and it would look at the device ID of an inserted device and go 'ok, this is Bus 003 Device 002: ID 059b:0033 Iomega Corp. -- that's a zip drive, we mount that on /mnt/zip Jan 06 00:08:41 etc Jan 06 00:08:52 XGizzmo: yeah, but it was trying to use the modem controller as a souncard :( Jan 06 00:08:52 cant you set all the devices in /etc/modules.conf? Jan 06 00:08:57 well, anyways, try to give drives fixed drive letters in windows - won't work with multiple usb mass storage devs either Jan 06 00:08:59 and just alias them all? Jan 06 00:09:05 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:09:11 SoulSurvivor: if that's possible, I'm not sure how to do it Jan 06 00:09:12 --> WarLocitO (~NowHere@cbl-sd-58-180.aster.com.do) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:09:14 --- W|GG-Laptop is now known as UnixFoo1 Jan 06 00:09:23 no, you cabn't Jan 06 00:09:26 ok Jan 06 00:09:26 just a thought Jan 06 00:09:32 I guess my way works as well as any.. Jan 06 00:09:38 but darnit Jan 06 00:09:40 <-- WarLocitO (~NowHere@cbl-sd-58-180.aster.com.do) has left ##slackware ("Parting") Jan 06 00:09:43 I can't remember how to mount my zip drive.. Jan 06 00:09:50 * chris-^ looks at tuxpower's fstab Jan 06 00:10:10 --> boow (~boow@dyn19-ter1-pittsburg.fament.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:10:17 oh no, after a few hours of konstruct it crapped out on me... Jan 06 00:10:20 <-- ctg (~ctg@adsl-81-7-108-123.takas.lt) has left ##slackware (":wq!") Jan 06 00:10:20 wait, that won't help me any, tuxpower has an IDE zip. it's simpler Jan 06 00:10:56 root@orbitaltux:/home/chris# mount /dev/sr0 /rstorage Jan 06 00:10:56 /dev/sr0: Invalid argument Jan 06 00:10:56 mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only Jan 06 00:10:56 wtf? Jan 06 00:10:56 <-- nixor has kicked chris-^ from ##slackware (flood) Jan 06 00:11:03 --> chris-^ (~chris@adsl-215-30-121.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:11:07 chris-^: good work Jan 06 00:11:12 thank you! :) Jan 06 00:11:16 =) Jan 06 00:11:43 this had better not be a write protected zip disk, I haven't been able to figure out how to change the protection bits in linux.. Jan 06 00:11:47 grrr! Jan 06 00:12:38 mount -t vfat /dev/sr0 /rstorage , and it's telling me it's a) write protected and b) that it's the wrong fstype Jan 06 00:12:42 <-- Squall` has quit (Client Quit) Jan 06 00:12:48 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:13:27 my zip drive had the click of death f iomega Jan 06 00:13:35 why the hell won't it mount :( Jan 06 00:13:45 o.o Jan 06 00:13:46 boow, my IBM HD has that Jan 06 00:13:51 okay... wierd... Jan 06 00:13:59 hrmph, is that considered bad language? Jan 06 00:14:08 eject /dev/sr0 makes my... OH Jan 06 00:14:08 < IDIOT Jan 06 00:14:10 true Jan 06 00:14:10 :P Jan 06 00:14:12 on my laptop /dev/sr0 is the cd-rom drive Jan 06 00:14:17 gee whiz :/ Jan 06 00:14:39 the zip would be /dev/sr1 Jan 06 00:14:39 well now they have usb pen drives now Jan 06 00:15:10 Yeah, I have one Jan 06 00:15:22 but we can't use them on the college machines Jan 06 00:15:26 but they all have zip250 drives Jan 06 00:16:01 <-- Straterra has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 06 00:16:14 --> Straterra_ (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:16:14 so, as I already posess about 120$ worth of media for the zip drive, the $40 investment on a self-powered USB Zip100 drive for my laptop was worth it Jan 06 00:16:14 i want to get me a usb harddrive Jan 06 00:16:23 --- Straterra_ is now known as Straterra Jan 06 00:16:36 o.O Jan 06 00:16:49 sr1 unknown device Jan 06 00:18:31 windows should be unix like lol Jan 06 00:19:30 <-- juice has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 06 00:20:15 --> freerock (~freerock@ool-44c0684c.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:20:26 <-- frankb has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 00:20:26 i wonder if my new modem will be delivered on time through snow storm Jan 06 00:21:41 --> juice (~juice@mo-65-41-197-57.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:22:39 if i have to pay for a modem driver might as well get a hardware modem cant use freebie with 2.6 kernel Jan 06 00:23:17 Winmodems blow Jan 06 00:23:20 Where can you still get hardware modems at? Jan 06 00:23:23 Aren't they more expensive, anyway? Jan 06 00:24:26 well on pricewatch i found one for 15 bucks best data 56sx-92 serial modem Jan 06 00:24:49 Serial modem? Jan 06 00:24:49 Why not get a PCI one?? Jan 06 00:25:02 <-- Lordrflctn has quit ("Killed (KrON (Requested by panasync))") Jan 06 00:25:15 most pcimodems are winmodems Jan 06 00:25:20 I know Jan 06 00:25:29 But you can still find PCI hardware modems Jan 06 00:26:12 Straterra, you can come back to #linuxforum now, Caveman only banned you temporarily because your client was parting and joining excessively while you weren't there Jan 06 00:26:23 Squall`, um..That's wasn't me then Jan 06 00:26:27 most ads never tell you if its controller based or not so i went with exertnal Jan 06 00:26:27 I didn't have a client open during the day at all Jan 06 00:26:28 --> Dario (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:26:30 hi everyone Jan 06 00:27:38 --> DarkTide_ (~main@dialup-4.156.105.146.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:27:40 i have unleashed another problem. Though far less serious. Yay. I'm using the on-board ac'97 sound card on my asus a7v880 motherboard. Sound works well in all apps except quake games. Quake1, 2, 3, ET, etc. Anyone heard of anything similar? Jan 06 00:28:04 Dario, I think they all use OSS Jan 06 00:28:13 <-- Drag0n has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 00:28:16 Straterra: really? Hmm. Jan 06 00:28:40 alsa-oss Jan 06 00:28:51 you could use the alsa-oss emulater Jan 06 00:28:51 ahhhhh Jan 06 00:28:51 ""lator Jan 06 00:28:51 that's what's not loaded Jan 06 00:28:51 hehe Jan 06 00:28:51 speaking of which Jan 06 00:28:51 lsmod doesn't show it, let me check. Jan 06 00:29:14 i still cant get my sound working Jan 06 00:29:26 slack should load the module Jan 06 00:29:26 no idea how 2.6 broke that Jan 06 00:29:26 damn! i think i left out oss Jan 06 00:29:26 emul. Jan 06 00:29:34 i remember compiling alsa Jan 06 00:29:34 hrm Jan 06 00:29:47 Redb3ard, becuse its in userland or something, I think Jan 06 00:30:11 stratterra, i have to compile something other than the kernel then? Jan 06 00:31:09 Straterra, i have all the oss options built in the kernel. I don't see anything else (except the depricated sound system) Jan 06 00:31:17 Redb3ard: did you pick your card in pci devices Jan 06 00:31:17 Dario, make them modules Jan 06 00:31:17 yeh Jan 06 00:31:17 modules instead of built in? Jan 06 00:31:17 ATI IXP or something like that Jan 06 00:31:17 --> snarf (~snarf@12-220-134-83.client.insightBB.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:31:31 Modules Jan 06 00:31:43 you have to include all the alsa stuff Jan 06 00:31:53 what is lindows called now? Jan 06 00:32:00 --> d3ity (1000@207.172.254.149) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:32:00 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@207.172.254.149 Jan 06 00:32:00 <-- nixor has kicked d3ity from ##slackware (banned: d3ity - perm ban - constant trolling) Jan 06 00:32:00 linspire Jan 06 00:32:00 --> Drag0n (~dragon@c-67-162-246-16.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:32:12 <-- granada has quit (Client Quit) Jan 06 00:32:26 ARGH, I can't figure out what /dev this zip drive is Jan 06 00:32:40 so module "oss mixer api" "oss pcm (digital audio api)? that's all i got. :p Jan 06 00:33:49 i just select all the alsa stuff as modules then pick my card in pci devices Jan 06 00:34:20 --> WhiteRabbit (~3am@whiterabbit.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:34:40 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 00:34:43 <-- vmhobbes_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 00:35:19 chris-^: it'l be in your dmesg Jan 06 00:35:19 for a usb device I plugged in? Jan 06 00:35:53 this intellimouse is driving me nuts Jan 06 00:36:51 chris-^: usb? plug it in and tail /var/log/messages Jan 06 00:36:51 aha Jan 06 00:36:51 thx Jan 06 00:36:51 thats cool to know Jan 06 00:37:01 --> Slack_Rox (~Slack_Rox@68.57.189.32) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:37:01 what'd d3ity get perm ban for? Jan 06 00:37:41 --> bsdevious (~bsd@67.15.82.39) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:37:41 --> Buggaboo (~jzz@ut-z-6021.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:37:51 hi Jan 06 00:37:51 hello Jan 06 00:37:59 does slackware have a backup tool of some sort? Jan 06 00:38:19 no Jan 06 00:38:52 tar Jan 06 00:38:52 tar! Jan 06 00:38:58 which all distros have :o) Jan 06 00:39:18 tar? Jan 06 00:39:18 somehow, i thought he meant some gui or something simpler Jan 06 00:39:18 hehe Jan 06 00:39:28 tar is an archiving thingy eh? Jan 06 00:39:32 dd, gzip, tar Jan 06 00:39:38 cpio Jan 06 00:39:41 tar = tape archive Jan 06 00:39:53 so the bottom-line is that I have to go write a bashcript to do that for me? Jan 06 00:39:53 tar -cvjf / --exclude /proc Jan 06 00:40:05 oops Jan 06 00:40:17 there are tons of them but tar is the most prevalent Jan 06 00:40:50 --> ptlo (~senko@cmung3096.cmu.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:41:00 --> Dominian (~dominian@dominian.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:41:00 --> ptolo (~senko@cmung3096.cmu.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:41:00 <-- ptolo has quit (Client Quit) Jan 06 00:41:00 yea search "backup" on freshmeat, should find lots of tools Jan 06 00:41:00 tar -cvjf backup.tar.bz2 / --exclude /proc Jan 06 00:41:00 Linux version 2.6.10 (root@Slackbox) (gcc version 3.3.4) #5 >>> lol, i did 2.6.6 about 14 times and 2.6.9 about 3 times. Jan 06 00:41:00 it depends on what you want to do...you can just run a command in a shell or script that command Jan 06 00:41:13 --> alexrait1 (~alexrait1@80.178.76.25.forward.012.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:41:13 hm, what does it mean to be the kind of woman the baker won't let near the bread? Jan 06 00:41:57 she's having her period at that time Jan 06 00:41:57 --> chris__ (~chris@adsl-11-160-248.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:41:57 a woman that burns shit up Jan 06 00:41:57 lol Jan 06 00:41:57 oh Jan 06 00:41:57 I don't think that works in the context :/ Jan 06 00:41:57 --- nixor removes ban on *!~root@* Jan 06 00:41:57 lol Jan 06 00:42:05 --> Xgates (~Xgates@xgates.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:42:14 never heard that one before Jan 06 00:42:29 her mom keeps calling her a slut and tells her to squeeze bread to see if it's fresh Jan 06 00:42:29 i've only heard "on the rag" Jan 06 00:42:43 at least it used to be like that in the old days, when a woman had her period, she wasn't allowed into the kitchen ... saw that on Globe Trekker - Discover once Jan 06 00:42:53 and the girl asks if the baker won't let her near it.. Jan 06 00:42:53 anyone got their ipod working with udev. I got it to make the /dev/ipod symlink once but it hasn't worked since Jan 06 00:42:53 icky Jan 06 00:43:34 * UnixFoo1 uses a creative zen xtra Jan 06 00:43:34 you know one day I'd really like a router that DOESN'T dump me on my ass when I open ports :) Jan 06 00:43:38 http://www.turksheadreview.com/library/kincaid-girl.html Jan 06 00:43:38 linux and girls dont mix Jan 06 00:43:38 sure they do Jan 06 00:43:38 speaking of ipods... i have one that needs to get fixed. I think the drive is broken. Jan 06 00:43:38 where I'm getting the bread thing Jan 06 00:43:38 lol Jan 06 00:43:47 boow: pft, we mix Jan 06 00:44:27 so why is this now ##slackware? Jan 06 00:44:28 i know a senior level IT person that happens to know more of *nix than most here Jan 06 00:44:28 freerock: darn FreeNode policy Jan 06 00:44:28 freerock, freenode guidelines dictated it Jan 06 00:44:33 chris-^: i just switched my wrt64g router to just a wap and put it behind my slack firewall, when it was my gateway i got 2 nastyyyy trojans Jan 06 00:44:49 --> Kurt (kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:44:56 most project-type channels will be the same way Jan 06 00:44:56 <-- chris__ (~chris@adsl-11-160-248.mia.bellsouth.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 06 00:45:07 what i ment is not alot of linux geeks have girlfriends Jan 06 00:45:07 ^wrt54g that is Jan 06 00:45:07 --> SuperGear (win2k3@c-24-9-154-178.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:45:07 ah, unofficial channels Jan 06 00:45:07 ah Jan 06 00:45:16 #linux went that way Jan 06 00:45:16 yeah Jan 06 00:45:25 * UnixFoo1 has a wrt54gs Jan 06 00:46:06 <-- Xgates has quit (Client Quit) Jan 06 00:46:18 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:46:18 <-- Sklet has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 06 00:46:18 yea i put ewrt on mine, but i didn't like it as my protection Jan 06 00:46:18 bought my mom a wrt54g for xmas Jan 06 00:46:18 UnixFoo1, buy me one Jan 06 00:46:18 lol Jan 06 00:46:18 <-- freerock has quit ("leaving") Jan 06 00:46:29 when you can spit me out of your vagina, i will Jan 06 00:46:39 UnixFoo1, == unixfool imposter? Jan 06 00:46:39 same Jan 06 00:46:39 lappy Jan 06 00:47:33 * UnixFoo1 IS unixfool :o) Jan 06 00:47:33 <-- Straterra has quit (Client Quit) Jan 06 00:47:33 <-- Dario has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 06 00:47:33 so shizzle Jan 06 00:47:33 fo shizzle Jan 06 00:47:33 my nizzle Jan 06 00:47:33 hahaha Jan 06 00:47:33 yeah, so = fo Jan 06 00:47:42 why did snoop need an umbrella? Jan 06 00:47:47 fo drizzle Jan 06 00:47:47 hehehe Jan 06 00:47:53 hahahaha Jan 06 00:47:53 what distro is closest to unix bsd Jan 06 00:48:00 slack Jan 06 00:49:06 that was easy. Next? Jan 06 00:49:09 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:49:27 <-- chris-^ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 06 00:49:43 UnixFoo1, if you pay for the vagina, then I gladly will for the WLAN card. :P Jan 06 00:49:51 ???? Jan 06 00:50:10 whats a vagina Jan 06 00:50:23 omfg Jan 06 00:50:23 boow, ..... Jan 06 00:50:23 goggle it Jan 06 00:50:23 lol Jan 06 00:50:23 UnixFoo1, LOL Jan 06 00:50:36 1,000,000 hits Jan 06 00:50:36 boow, google it at school. XD Jan 06 00:50:36 and a few pics Jan 06 00:50:49 sarcasm Jan 06 00:51:26 who knows, you could be from india and understand little english Jan 06 00:51:26 boow: RTFM Jan 06 00:51:26 lol Jan 06 00:51:43 boow: or just grab a random chick and remove what ever clothes they got on ... Jan 06 00:51:43 :P Jan 06 00:51:43 perhaps I should apply for the Jeopardy "Clue Crew"... Jan 06 00:51:51 UnixFoo1, that is why there is google pictures..because pictures of vaginas are universal. :P Jan 06 00:52:02 pants and panties will do, if you're only after her vagina Jan 06 00:52:14 tewmten: yeah Jan 06 00:52:20 or if she wears a skirt, just remove the panties Jan 06 00:52:21 <-- DarkTide has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 06 00:52:34 --- DarkTide_ is now known as DarkTide Jan 06 00:52:42 UnixFoo1, see what you started? :P Jan 06 00:52:51 i need to get out every know and then Jan 06 00:52:59 vagine and google are very alike Jan 06 00:53:10 just say the word, and everyone knows what you're talking about Jan 06 00:53:22 tewmten, yup Jan 06 00:53:22 hehe...wasn't me Jan 06 00:53:22 <-- Kurt has quit (Connection reset by peer) Jan 06 00:53:31 Even script kiddies can kinda relate to both of those words Jan 06 00:53:31 I mean vagina of course, not vagine Jan 06 00:53:31 mention vagina and the geeks wake the hell up Jan 06 00:53:41 http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid86/p49683207557f2c639af6dea93d4d68d3/faacf7b8.jpg Jan 06 00:53:41 hehe Jan 06 00:53:53 one badass truck Jan 06 00:53:53 UnixFoo1, you mentioned the WLAN card..that is what woke ME up Jan 06 00:53:53 truck? Jan 06 00:54:06 yeah Jan 06 00:54:06 UnixFoo1, I like my stepbrother's better Jan 06 00:54:06 I thought it was gonna be a pic of a vagina Jan 06 00:54:06 im not gonna try that link Jan 06 00:54:20 F350 with aftermarket turbo, V12 Diesel Jan 06 00:54:20 its a pic of a truck Jan 06 00:54:20 lol Jan 06 00:54:20 HUGE lift kit.. Jan 06 00:54:20 any news about volkerding? Jan 06 00:54:35 Convertable as hell inside too Jan 06 00:54:50 .google Jan 06 00:54:50 Sounds VERY nice Jan 06 00:54:50 oops Jan 06 00:54:50 andli: he is catching up on the updates Jan 06 00:54:50 UnixFoo1, that link of your truck you got? Jan 06 00:54:58 the dodge? Jan 06 00:54:58 Straterra, i'm not into lift kits Jan 06 00:54:58 Has "Eating dodges, shittin' chevy's" on the front liscence plate Jan 06 00:56:15 --> Kurt (~kmw@evvlinlwt-nas-03-s632.cinergycom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:56:15 my truck is high enough without one Jan 06 00:56:15 i guess win32 joke.exe's will not work on linux Jan 06 00:56:15 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagina Jan 06 00:56:15 vaaaagina Jan 06 00:56:15 --> Dario (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:56:15 buzzedlightyear, no, its someone's on the forums Jan 06 00:56:15 mine is here: Jan 06 00:56:15 hm, i still don't have sound in the quake games. Jan 06 00:56:15 tewmten: okej. Jan 06 00:56:15 UnixFoo1, ah..I want a truck but my parents said since it was rwd only and winter was coming, I couldn't have one Jan 06 00:56:15 http://wigglit.ath.cx/dodge Jan 06 00:56:15 tewmten, man vagina Jan 06 00:56:15 --> cSu|GuntherDW (1000@d51A4D5CA.kabel.telenet.be) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:56:15 heh you have a page for it 'eh? Jan 06 00:56:15 lol Jan 06 00:56:15 --> IronBob (~ironbob@adsl-208-191-166-220.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:56:15 http://wigglit.ath.cx/dodge/ Jan 06 00:56:15 buzzedlightyear: dude I don't wanna see a man with a vagina you sicko! Jan 06 00:56:15 buzzedlightyear, does it show switches and additional arguments? Jan 06 00:56:29 forgot the "/" on the end Jan 06 00:56:41 oooh Jan 06 00:56:41 i need to blacken out my tags Jan 06 00:56:41 :) Jan 06 00:56:41 it's red :) Jan 06 00:56:51 UnixFoo1: hehe Jan 06 00:57:13 UnixFoo1: mwhauuhaoihihi I see your license plate number, now I'm gonna hack it! ph34r!! Jan 06 00:57:21 ;D Jan 06 00:57:21 lol Jan 06 00:57:30 good luck...it has a firewall Jan 06 00:57:30 UnixFoo1, you would like my stepdad's dodge Jan 06 00:57:52 UnixFoo1, i see the 6 disc cd changer :-D Jan 06 00:58:21 gonna hack into your car, make it say "fo shizzle mah nizzle" everytime you turn on the radio Jan 06 00:58:21 --> trivthebofh (djtriv@24.66.136.244) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:58:21 i would lower mine but my wife would complain Jan 06 00:58:21 buzzedlightyear, lol Jan 06 00:58:28 It's a 2004 Ram 1500 with the 340 HP Hemi Jan 06 00:58:28 UnixFoo1: need some neons Jan 06 00:58:28 Only..its a limited edition Rumble Bee Jan 06 00:58:28 UnixFoo1, you'd seriously lower that? Jan 06 00:58:28 cool Jan 06 00:58:28 neons? Jan 06 00:58:28 Straterra, ooooooo!! Jan 06 00:58:28 my gmc is lowered :) Jan 06 00:58:28 those are badass Jan 06 00:58:28 yeah sure, put on some pink fluff also Jan 06 00:58:32 and a spoiler Jan 06 00:58:32 and some vinyls Jan 06 00:58:32 limited editions Jan 06 00:58:38 <-- alexrait1 has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041219]") Jan 06 00:58:53 Yellow with black stripes on the back. He put a hard cover on it and got the black stripe decals from Mopar and continued the stripes across the bed cover Jan 06 00:58:53 Queer rider for the straight guy Jan 06 00:58:53 erhm Jan 06 00:58:53 --> Xgates (~Xgates@xgates.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 00:58:53 ride* Jan 06 00:59:42 let's make it super! Jan 06 00:59:42 It's nice looking Jan 06 00:59:42 Spray in Bed liner.. Jan 06 00:59:43 but neons are so fugly Jan 06 00:59:43 <-- boow has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 00:59:43 No neons Jan 06 00:59:51 hilfe! Jan 06 00:59:51 :) Jan 06 01:00:09 i want to play enemy territories.. and finally my stuff doesn't crash but now ihave no sound in this game! why? i have AC'97 chip. Jan 06 01:00:09 <-- cSu|GuntherDW has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 06 01:00:21 I like chips Jan 06 01:00:27 i don't want to to much to it...maybe change the front grille, put sidebars on it, get the taillight protectors and a hard tonneau Jan 06 01:00:36 but now I have only cheese doodles Jan 06 01:00:46 too bad i don't have the 18" rims but i hear they suck in the snow Jan 06 01:01:05 i just got a tonneau cover for my truck Jan 06 01:01:17 i need some carper or liner in the back now Jan 06 01:01:17 UnixFoo1: ever heard of winter tires..? :) Jan 06 01:01:27 UnixFoo1, my stepdad's truck has the 20" on them Jan 06 01:01:27 He refuses to drive it in the winter Jan 06 01:01:44 He bought a wrecked Ford escort to drive in the winter..he keeps his baby in the garage all winter Jan 06 01:01:56 UnixFoo1, i'd get stuck in 1ft snow since mine is lowered, i cant put chains on either so i might be screwed this winder Jan 06 01:02:05 hehe Jan 06 01:02:05 driving ford escorts until it's wrecked Jan 06 01:02:05 yeah I've done that Jan 06 01:02:12 :D Jan 06 01:02:39 I'm getting me a new vehicle, my engine is on the verge of death Jan 06 01:02:50 --> Hobbes (Hobbes@line-a-210.dynamic-athome.inode.at) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:02:50 hello? Jan 06 01:02:50 been there, done that, hit a wall of snow Jan 06 01:02:50 Because it was wrecked, there are 0 seals with the windows..it leaks like mad when it rains Jan 06 01:02:50 client is acting quirky Jan 06 01:02:50 shaaaitee Jan 06 01:02:50 join #linuxdojo Jan 06 01:02:50 damn Jan 06 01:02:50 lol Jan 06 01:02:50 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 01:02:50 I'm buying my brother-in-law's old dodge dakota Jan 06 01:02:50 buzzedlightyear, damn Jan 06 01:02:56 UnixFoo1: nah, it's just a user malfunction :) Jan 06 01:03:20 only $450 Jan 06 01:03:20 checking kbb.com first :P Jan 06 01:03:20 that's what i mean, the 20s Jan 06 01:03:20 my dakota has a recallon it Jan 06 01:03:34 well, it's not really a dakota, I call it a dakota 'cause it's a dodge light truck Jan 06 01:03:39 but it's a Japanese import Jan 06 01:03:47 by Toyota Jan 06 01:03:50 yeah, both the dakotas and the durangos have that recall Jan 06 01:03:55 --> msamsing (1000@x1-6-00-0d-87-8b-56-1e.k502.webspeed.dk) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:04:33 yeap Jan 06 01:04:35 needs a clutch cable Jan 06 01:04:43 spanning 2000-2003 Jan 06 01:04:43 but that's it Jan 06 01:05:41 btw, speaking about vaginas Jan 06 01:05:52 "Some erotic performers, particularly in Asia, can use vaginal muscles for tricks, such as smoking or playing musical instruments." Jan 06 01:06:49 gotto love wikipedia :D Jan 06 01:06:49 tewmten: go to canada and you see that Jan 06 01:06:49 bla! Jan 06 01:07:35 Dominian: maybe I can just find that here in europe.. :) Jan 06 01:07:35 true Jan 06 01:08:03 <-- MadMartin (router@BSN-77-233-233.dsl.siol.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 06 01:08:49 lol this is crazy! why can't i just get things to work. All i need now is to get sound in quake3/et. i have the snd_pcm_oss module loaded and all! Jan 06 01:09:54 at least you're laffin Jan 06 01:10:22 out of insanity. Jan 06 01:10:49 if i put the soundblaster live card, it causes irq conflicts and crashes everything. Jan 06 01:10:50 wmacpi is ugly Jan 06 01:10:55 i need to make a new one Jan 06 01:12:45 22,000 packets captured by tcpdump in like 1 or 2 seconds is alot isnt it? Jan 06 01:13:25 --> jimmyd (~jimmyd@jackass.lairdnovak.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:13:31 --> Artimus (~jared@66-168-2-157.cli.wi.charter.com) has joined ##Slackware Jan 06 01:13:39 buzzed, thats quite a few yeh Jan 06 01:13:49 wonder what the deal is Jan 06 01:13:59 70 or 80 a second, in burst, isnt unusual on my small home network Jan 06 01:14:10 nah im on my work network Jan 06 01:14:10 and i think ive seen stuff that i guess was 200 a second Jan 06 01:14:30 <-- WhiteRabbit has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 01:14:57 Buggaboo buzzedlightyear Jan 06 01:15:09 buzzedlightyear, what eth card do you have and what switch ? Jan 06 01:16:11 unless you're sniffing the gateway to the internet... Jan 06 01:16:11 you shouldnt see much more Jan 06 01:16:11 assuming that its a switched network, isnt it? Jan 06 01:16:11 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:16:11 i've seen up to 400 a couple of times but that was when i was mirroring our proxy straight to ethereal Jan 06 01:16:11 this is just a node on the network Jan 06 01:16:11 smps, gigabit ethernet, mostly gigabit network Jan 06 01:16:20 UnixFoo1: 592,707 vehicles affected by that recall Jan 06 01:16:31 dell gigabit switches Jan 06 01:16:40 damn Jan 06 01:17:06 finally found the official recall Jan 06 01:17:06 Dell... Jan 06 01:17:17 now its only 4-5k packets in the 1-2 seconds Jan 06 01:17:32 lots of ppl have this problem with ac97 and quake games. Aparently those 2 don'g go together. Jan 06 01:17:50 Straterra, theyre doin the job Jan 06 01:18:49 buzzedlightyear, :/ Jan 06 01:18:49 via + ac97 + quake = quake - sound Jan 06 01:18:54 dell switches are nice Jan 06 01:18:54 Straterra, whats wrong with the dell switches??? Jan 06 01:18:54 buzzedlightyear, I don't care for the company much Jan 06 01:18:54 hp procurves are nice too Jan 06 01:18:54 doesnt make the switches bad Jan 06 01:18:54 Straterra: just because the company sucks doesn't mean their hardware does Jan 06 01:18:54 Dominian, I don't like the company because of mostly hardware stuff Jan 06 01:21:14 Straterra: well.. until you work a corporate job where you are forced to use standardized equipment.. you can live in your dream world :) Jan 06 01:21:14 Dominian, not a dream world..I use 1 example Jan 06 01:21:14 Won't matter to me. Jan 06 01:21:14 I hate HP, but their switches are very nice. Jan 06 01:21:14 yawn.. hellos ##slackware Jan 06 01:21:14 hi Jan 06 01:21:14 Dell used LG cd-rom drives that were known to be inferior just to save money..And that bit them in the ass with Mandrake 9.2 Jan 06 01:21:14 Straterra, im sure dell doesnt care much about cdroms compatibility in mandrake 9.2 Jan 06 01:21:14 Straterra: wasn't just dell that did that Jan 06 01:21:14 It was also ones sold in stores Jan 06 01:21:14 Dominian, nope..but Dell was a major one Jan 06 01:21:14 and it wasnt' the cdroms fault Jan 06 01:21:14 Dominian, Yeah it was Jan 06 01:21:14 they changed something in Mandrake that screwed it up Jan 06 01:21:24 <-- _marlon_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 06 01:21:37 It didn't have proper firmware protection or whatever Jan 06 01:21:48 uh huh ok Jan 06 01:22:01 bitching about it now solves nothing.. they fixed it with firmware updates Jan 06 01:22:13 Dominian, of course Jan 06 01:22:13 I'm not bitching about it..I am telling why I dislike Dell Jan 06 01:22:41 Also in the older Dells, I have noticed some weird propriatary Dell parts, like special RAM you had to get from Dell..kinda like the old Compaqs too Jan 06 01:22:51 Kinda why I dislike Compaqs too Jan 06 01:23:40 hehe well Jan 06 01:23:40 my dell inspirion 4000 works right out of box with slack 10 :) i'm happy! Jan 06 01:23:40 in the real world.. you don't have a choice what your company uses Jan 06 01:23:41 ok ok, so now the tip is to compile the sound support INTO the kernel. ok ok. Jan 06 01:23:41 fhobia, so does my dell laptop :-D Jan 06 01:23:45 :D Jan 06 01:23:45 buzzedlightyear: me three Jan 06 01:23:50 i think it depends what model you get...its kinda like lotto Jan 06 01:23:51 while i'm at it, why can't i get vesafb with my geforce fx 5500 Jan 06 01:23:52 ? Jan 06 01:23:57 cause our family has 2 dud dells :| Jan 06 01:24:04 Dominian, what model? Jan 06 01:24:20 inspiron 7500 Jan 06 01:24:43 --> avoca (~avoca@159.134.144.68) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:24:50 nice, mine worked flawlessly Jan 06 01:25:01 mine too Jan 06 01:25:04 they say IBM laptops work perfect with linux, which they prolly do, but so did my dell Jan 06 01:25:06 monitor broke off at one of the hinges though hee Jan 06 01:25:12 lol thats no good Jan 06 01:25:17 it still works Jan 06 01:25:19 --> assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:25:20 I just have to be careful Jan 06 01:25:21 get it fixed or warranty cover it? Jan 06 01:25:23 hey dude's Jan 06 01:25:32 buzzedlightyear: haha no.. this sucker is old Jan 06 01:25:38 buzzedlightyear: got it from work as a "gift" Jan 06 01:25:43 hah i was gonna say i dont recognize the 7500 model Jan 06 01:25:47 hehe Jan 06 01:27:19 Dominian, I understand you can't help what the company buys..I am just saying I would never buy one for school Jan 06 01:28:16 hey I'd rather have a Dell over an HP laptop Jan 06 01:28:32 i'd rather be sailing. Jan 06 01:28:33 and frankly Toshiba's are ranked some of the best consumer laptops on themarket Jan 06 01:28:47 i love my toshiba ;; integrates well with linux as well =) Jan 06 01:29:10 --> Kurt2 (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:29:27 dell has a board for linux support, that was surprising. Jan 06 01:29:28 :) Jan 06 01:29:32 --> milkmutt (~milkmutt@134.sin0102.sin.iprimus.net.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:29:35 Dominian, my mom has a HP laptop..the only grudge I hold against it is that it runs WinME Jan 06 01:30:03 hehe Jan 06 01:30:07 <-- mheath has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 06 01:30:13 the HP workstations are very nice though.. mobile workstations that is Jan 06 01:30:31 i can upgrade my dell laptop video which is awesome :) Jan 06 01:30:32 <-- Squall` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 01:30:35 I don't know about you, but i love Dell Optiplex GX280.. great system Jan 06 01:30:50 well when this thing dies.. Jan 06 01:30:54 kobs is the name of an icecream store in honduras. Jan 06 01:31:00 I'm gonna figure some way to use the LCD as a second monitor for my other PC hehe Jan 06 01:31:03 kobs, im on an optiplex right now Jan 06 01:31:11 --> flock (~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:31:13 buzzedlightyear: what model Jan 06 01:31:20 I still want an alienware laptop Jan 06 01:31:30 err.. not model Jan 06 01:31:31 gx280 :) Jan 06 01:31:31 specs Jan 06 01:31:39 * kobs just woke up Jan 06 01:32:21 kobs, P4 2.80ghz 512ram Jan 06 01:32:26 only downside is we have the one with intel integrated graphics Jan 06 01:32:45 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:32:47 yeah this one is integrated graphics Jan 06 01:32:49 --> mheath (~mheath@c-67-161-213-34.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:32:59 no reason to have huge graphics cards though for what they are designed for Jan 06 01:33:10 pci-express? Jan 06 01:33:13 it runs medal of honor awesome though, that doesnt say much though Jan 06 01:33:13 compiling kernels takes too long. Jan 06 01:33:19 kobs, not sure bout that one Jan 06 01:33:36 well..i think that might just be on the newer ones Jan 06 01:34:06 this is fairly new, smaller than the others too its nice Jan 06 01:34:42 kobs, just checked yes pci express Jan 06 01:34:53 http://jobopps.disa.mil/scripts/odbic.exe/dfas/joa_dfas.html Jan 06 01:34:55 buzzedlightyear, wanna trade with my P3 1ghz? :P Jan 06 01:35:01 Same ammount of ram Jan 06 01:35:09 And a hella-better video card. :D Jan 06 01:35:22 * kobs thinking about slipping a pci-express video card on next PO Jan 06 01:35:26 >:] Jan 06 01:35:36 kobs, bastard! You have pcix ? Jan 06 01:35:39 UnixFoo1: doesn't work Jan 06 01:35:45 damn Jan 06 01:35:52 its a unix position at DISA Jan 06 01:35:52 <-- quittt has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 06 01:35:59 bah Jan 06 01:36:01 Straterra, lol nah thanks i like my job Jan 06 01:36:03 no one would hire me for that anyway Jan 06 01:36:05 OK this is too weird, I'm looking at jobs and woudln't ya know it, I found one that says looking for an experienced RPG developer. The job code is MMRPG. I mean I KNOW it has to be an acrynym for some accounting type software, but its just freaky. Jan 06 01:36:09 pci-x is different than pci-e =P Jan 06 01:36:11 buzzedlightyear, :P Jan 06 01:36:14 Its SOOO close to looking like a game programming openning ;) Jan 06 01:36:15 starting $60k/yr Jan 06 01:36:16 Think they would fire you? Jan 06 01:36:44 ok, i'm going to test this now.. wish me luck. Jan 06 01:36:47 prettttty sure. lousy college student workin in IT tradin computers Jan 06 01:36:54 buzzedlightyear, he he Jan 06 01:36:55 UnixFoo1: I have a helluva time getting job as it is now Jan 06 01:37:07 Tell them it has a case fan and that makes up for the slower CPU Jan 06 01:37:17 UnixFoo1: only three years in the field... got my degree.. but just gott aget to that 5 year exp. mark Jan 06 01:37:20 <-- Dario has quit ("oh sh!t.") Jan 06 01:37:20 Not to mention I have thoroughly cleaned it Jan 06 01:38:05 Dominian, I'm getting my A+ cert soon Jan 06 01:38:07 yeah this one is brand new, prolly still spotless Jan 06 01:38:16 us IT guys get all the new nice computers first :) Jan 06 01:38:21 <-- blaze has quit () Jan 06 01:38:22 Straterra: Just an FYI.. A+ really doesn't have any weight to it anymore. Jan 06 01:38:27 Dominian, I know Jan 06 01:38:37 But the class was free, and my school is paying to take the test Jan 06 01:38:38 doesnt best buy require it Jan 06 01:38:38 :D Jan 06 01:38:40 get CCNP or CCIE and you'll have a job in no time Jan 06 01:38:43 for computer tech Jan 06 01:38:53 I would be stupid to pass it up.. Jan 06 01:39:02 BRB Jan 06 01:39:04 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 01:39:29 my school said that same thing about the A+ thing...they never got it for us. made us study all year for it and never got a chance to take the test Jan 06 01:39:32 bastards Jan 06 01:39:33 Dominian, i've only 2 yrs experience in IT and no degree and i'm on the low side of $50k/yr Jan 06 01:39:51 then again, i'm in a prime area Jan 06 01:39:56 UnixFoo1: not bad Jan 06 01:40:00 --> slowdude (~slowdude@cpe-24-242-18-60.elp.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:40:07 UnixFoo1: yeah.. yer in virginia aren't you? Jan 06 01:40:11 yeah Jan 06 01:40:16 --> vurte (~haluk@pD95F69A2.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:40:23 hehe the NEW silicone valley Jan 06 01:40:24 near DC Jan 06 01:40:48 unix skills are HIGHLY needed here Jan 06 01:41:01 most of the job postings are looking for unix admins Jan 06 01:41:22 in DC? Jan 06 01:41:22 * buzzedlightyear almost went to college in virginia Jan 06 01:41:24 and the biggest arena is network security Jan 06 01:41:36 slowdude, around DC...metro area Jan 06 01:41:38 --- Catcher_ is now known as Catcher Jan 06 01:41:49 UnixFoo1: I could do an entry level unix admin position Jan 06 01:41:49 UnixFoo1, you near lynchburg at all? Jan 06 01:41:50 that wouldn't be absolutely horrible Jan 06 01:42:00 anywhere within 30 miles of it Jan 06 01:42:14 UnixFoo1, yeah i almost went to liberty univ. there Jan 06 01:42:27 buzzedlightyear, thats sound of me...quite a ways, i think Jan 06 01:43:12 --> Papyrus (unique@202.155.89.215) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:43:20 Dominian, the real requirement would be being eligible for a security clearance Jan 06 01:43:41 hello slackers Jan 06 01:44:04 damn it Jan 06 01:44:16 hi UnixFoo1 =P Jan 06 01:44:16 phrag: ? Jan 06 01:44:20 heh Jan 06 01:44:23 hiya phrag Jan 06 01:45:03 hey phrag, buzzed, Dominian, others Jan 06 01:45:29 UnixFool: had one a while back - don't know if I could get another in today's environment Jan 06 01:45:37 <-- assd has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 06 01:45:37 [all] =) Jan 06 01:46:01 hey Squall` Jan 06 01:46:02 UnixFoo1: i'm eligible for a clearance Jan 06 01:46:11 UnixFoo1: I'm ex-military Jan 06 01:46:11 no record Jan 06 01:46:21 Dominian, where are you at now? Jan 06 01:46:21 UnixFoo1: Indiana Jan 06 01:46:27 india eh Jan 06 01:46:34 Dominion: so am I - it isn't automatic though, is it? Jan 06 01:46:34 how's the curry over there? Jan 06 01:46:34 Indiana != India Jan 06 01:46:38 oh Jan 06 01:46:41 you open-minded toward relocation? Jan 06 01:46:42 rofl Jan 06 01:46:46 *doh* Jan 06 01:46:54 slowdude: not really automatic but it helps Jan 06 01:46:56 * kobs gives tewmten a swift slap to the head Jan 06 01:46:59 UnixFoo1: I'm quite openminded Jan 06 01:47:04 howdy Jan 06 01:47:11 --> mystic0 (~mystic@adsl-216-101-25-242.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:47:27 almost took a job in michigan Jan 06 01:47:27 hell, i know the site i work at is hurting for help (northrop grumman) Jan 06 01:47:27 whay job Jan 06 01:47:27 --> moschi (~moschi@home-ppp3-183.colorado.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:47:27 will the latest release of slackware detect my intel SATA? Jan 06 01:47:28 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:47:31 --> assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:47:35 because the last time i tried it the kernel froze on hardware detection Jan 06 01:47:35 * tewmten pokes kobs in the eyes Jan 06 01:47:36 just wondering if things have changed Jan 06 01:47:38 Ha ha ha Jan 06 01:47:40 I am looking at this geek magazine.. Jan 06 01:47:50 monitoring IDS devices and network troubleshooting...shiftwork though...24/7 operations Jan 06 01:47:50 I'm having a trouble connectin to my local mysql server using php script function mysql_connect(). It returns "Client does not support authentication protocol requested by server; consider upgrading MySQL client" Where lies the problem? I'm running apache 1.3.33 with php with mysql support Jan 06 01:47:50 --> adapter (adapter@h00062564c8e9.ne.client2.attbi.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 01:48:00 UnixFoo1: I'm used to that Jan 06 01:48:03 Python interface unloaded Jan 06 01:48:03 Tcl interface unloaded **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 6 01:48:03 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 6 23:29:49 2005 Jan 06 23:29:49 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 06 23:29:49 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support Channel - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | Jan 06 23:29:49 --- Topic for ##slackware set by phrag at Wed Jan 5 13:16:34 2005 Jan 06 23:29:50 -ChanServ- [##slackware] #slackware has moved to ##slackware to fit the freenode channel ownership policies a bit better. If you've been forwarded from #slackware, please "/part #slackware" so your client won't be confused! Jan 06 23:29:50 --- ##slackware :[freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup Jan 06 23:29:57 y'all obviously don't know what you're talking about.... Jan 06 23:30:00 Straterra : boot menu or what ? Jan 06 23:30:07 shouldn't start saying Gentoo is crap until after you've tried it Jan 06 23:30:08 I'm talking about the "Bringing the network up....[ ]" thing Jan 06 23:30:10 It's green.. Jan 06 23:30:15 AthlonRob, exactly why I am trying it. Jan 06 23:30:21 I waited until I tried it 4 times to say that, give me credit Jan 06 23:30:22 --> crackerjack (1000@ip5452b530.speed.planet.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:30:25 Straterra : ooh... that one Jan 06 23:30:31 join /bash Jan 06 23:30:31 and you never noticed the boot sequence, Gore? Jan 06 23:30:39 sorry Jan 06 23:30:39 After 4 times and realising I have a Free BSD machine already I deleted it Jan 06 23:30:50 Straterra : it looks like RH boot thing Jan 06 23:30:51 Generally I hit the power button to turn it on and walk away Jan 06 23:31:04 Papyrus, I noticed that Mandrake had it too.. Jan 06 23:31:08 it's a simple utility that handles the colors Jan 06 23:31:12 a lot of distributions use it Jan 06 23:31:17 AthlonRob, yeah' Jan 06 23:31:20 there's no reason you couldn't graft it on to Slackware's init scripts Jan 06 23:31:23 I would LOVE to see my slack do that Jan 06 23:31:23 :D Jan 06 23:31:43 "start-stop-daemon" Jan 06 23:31:54 Gentoo just isn't for me. And why someone would wait 3 days for an install from sources that Free BSD does, FULL install, in 13 hours, is beyond me Jan 06 23:32:09 I did tests, My friend uses Gentoo and he took 3 days Jan 06 23:32:17 gore, I might use Gentoo on my P3 1ghz for gaming Jan 06 23:32:17 gore, you don't need to compile everything from scratch like that Jan 06 23:32:33 gore, It took me about 6 hours MAYBE to get a stage 3 system up Jan 06 23:32:40 So I did a full install of Free BSD 4.10, and then upgraded everything from sources by downloading all of it from the net and compiling it, and it took 13 hours Jan 06 23:32:40 I got it up and running in about 18 hours on my server... Jan 06 23:32:46 AthlonRob, do you know if Gentoo can use cedega? Jan 06 23:32:49 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:32:51 Straterra, it can Jan 06 23:33:01 AthlonRob, Oooooh? Jan 06 23:33:15 it'll require you to download it yourself, drop it in /usr/portage/distfiles and then it'll install it for you Jan 06 23:33:18 Emerge kind of upsets me because they come off like they invented the idea of doing that Jan 06 23:33:20 (and track that installation) Jan 06 23:33:29 <-- Silver has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 06 23:33:33 AthlonRob, download the source? Jan 06 23:33:33 Athlon you ever use Free BSD? Jan 06 23:33:38 Not the idea, gore, the implementation Jan 06 23:33:39 I'm not even sure you CAN get the source, can you? Jan 06 23:33:48 yeah, gore, several years ago... and I have shell on a friend's FBSD box Jan 06 23:34:04 Straterra, you used to be able to get most of the code (back when it was WineX) via CVS... I don't know about now Jan 06 23:34:12 pkgadd -r anything Jan 06 23:34:18 it is restricted iirc Jan 06 23:34:20 It grabs it form the net and installs it Jan 06 23:34:22 There is no ebuild for it since Transgaming asked them to remove the CVS grabbing script they had Jan 06 23:34:25 phrag, yeah Jan 06 23:34:34 You can get packages for your distro, but not the source Jan 06 23:34:39 --> rh0` (~rolando@205.241.35.189) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:34:53 slackpacks work well Jan 06 23:35:00 phrag, Do they? Jan 06 23:35:16 yes, used the ones from transgaming for years Jan 06 23:35:21 AthlonRob, this blows...3 out of 186 on this emerge Jan 06 23:35:38 what are you emerging, Straterra? Jan 06 23:35:45 AthlonRob, gnome. :D Jan 06 23:35:49 --> thubics (~thubi@med.pub.ro) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:35:51 oh Jan 06 23:35:52 Slackware is very similar to Free BSD, I've been doing tests on both for a Paper, lots of similarities, but not rip offs like Gentoo. But Slackware has a hell of a lot better hardware support. And the packaging system is different Jan 06 23:36:13 lol Jan 06 23:36:22 AthlonRob, I'm thinking I MIGHT go with IceWM instead of gnome just because of how long it will take to compile gnome on my P3 1ghz Jan 06 23:37:47 I love that. Gentoo is all fast but you can never tell when you try it on someone's box because they have like KDE or GNOMe compiling in the BG lol Jan 06 23:37:47 <-- mmu_man has quit ("Vision[0.9.6-0203]: i've been blurred!") Jan 06 23:37:47 I don't keep up to date with every updated package, myself Jan 06 23:37:47 not on my laptop, anyway Jan 06 23:37:47 and my server... well... it doesn't run X :-) Jan 06 23:37:47 <-- lannders has quit (Client Quit) Jan 06 23:37:47 AthlonRob, my server runs Slack, sooo Jan 06 23:37:47 I use Trustix and SUSE for servers Jan 06 23:37:47 gore: heh Jan 06 23:37:48 <-- thubics has quit (Client Quit) Jan 06 23:37:48 Three of my servers run Slack, one runs Gentoo Jan 06 23:37:48 Trustix doesn't even come with X on the CD Jan 06 23:37:48 the "play" server runs Gentoo Jan 06 23:38:31 Cancelled Gnome, here comes IceWM Jan 06 23:39:35 <-- [M4rk0] has quit ("I Use SimpleIRC v3.2 XP - Get This Script At http://www.mostarac.net") Jan 06 23:39:35 you could use Gnome without compiling for 24 hours if you had Slackware, Or SUSE, or .... Anything else Jan 06 23:39:43 --> vanda (vanda@p5088FC85.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:39:45 gore, I'm trying a new distro, ok? Jan 06 23:39:48 --> DarkTide (~main@dialup-4.156.99.152.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:39:51 Didn't say I am gonna stay with it Jan 06 23:39:57 uhhh.... You don't need my permission Jan 06 23:40:07 After I get done with gentoo, I'm gonna try Debian, SuSe and Red Hat Jan 06 23:40:22 <-- ve1drg has quit ("leaving") Jan 06 23:40:27 With Debian, go for Libranet, it's pretty much the same but some way better tools Jan 06 23:40:52 <-- UQlev (~yuriy@ykulyev.logos.cy.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 06 23:41:27 One thing I was upset with was the fact that vi doesn't come with Gentoo.. Jan 06 23:41:31 --> MAN_Hater (~Too_Rude@adsl-69-151-255-143.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:41:42 Another reason I hate it Jan 06 23:41:47 "vi doesn't come with Gentoo" ??? Jan 06 23:41:50 emerge elvis Jan 06 23:41:51 Wairt Jan 06 23:41:52 wow that is insane not to incluce vi Jan 06 23:41:54 emerge vim Jan 06 23:41:55 AthlonRob, I know. :D Jan 06 23:42:03 But for the installation, I had to use nano..ugh Jan 06 23:42:15 ohhh Jan 06 23:42:16 Oh that is crap Jan 06 23:42:18 loves seeing slackware in powerfull projects : http://usermodelinux.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=140 Jan 06 23:42:27 for the three files you have to edit? Jan 06 23:42:33 AthlonRob, yeah Jan 06 23:42:34 :P Jan 06 23:42:43 <-- Papyrus has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 06 23:43:10 Things you shouldn't need to do anyway during install Jan 06 23:43:21 afk Jan 06 23:43:23 --> _ReNz0r` (objorkum@ti411110a080-0289.bb.online.no) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:43:23 MAN_Hater, WTF is that project? Jan 06 23:43:30 I am looking at the page..but confused Jan 06 23:43:44 Argh, why do they need to bundle games with graphicscards ... so annoying Jan 06 23:43:50 --> fidow (~root@201.3.191.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:43:50 something called (shrug) user mose linux (it has a sourceforge site also - Jan 06 23:43:50 --- nixor sets ban on *!~root@* Jan 06 23:43:51 <-- nixor has kicked fidow from ##slackware (banned: It is very dangerous to IRC as root. Please return under a user account.) Jan 06 23:43:54 --> Papyrus (unique@202.155.89.206) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:44:06 lol I did that once Jan 06 23:44:20 I was doing admin on my LAN and forgot I was root and loaded Irssi Jan 06 23:44:21 * MAN_Hater nutterz cuz it was powered by slackware now it met debbie Jan 06 23:44:56 gore, I run as r00t 14/7 Jan 06 23:45:07 24/7 Jan 06 23:45:19 Why? Jan 06 23:45:21 Straterra : root or r00t ? Jan 06 23:45:28 Papyrus, nice catch Jan 06 23:45:28 UID 0? Jan 06 23:45:29 :P Jan 06 23:45:31 Whois me Jan 06 23:45:32 :D Jan 06 23:45:41 Can't, have to go eat Jan 06 23:45:48 I'm STILL awake Jan 06 23:45:54 I can stay up longer than NT Jan 06 23:45:54 Straterra : :) Jan 06 23:46:15 Papyrus, and the real stickler..I am in Windows. XD Jan 06 23:46:37 Straterra : :D Jan 06 23:46:41 xo - heheh VVIndowz cauzes typoes Jan 06 23:46:53 Straterra : heh, yeah i use windows too Jan 06 23:47:47 Mwe too Jan 06 23:47:53 hmm....RAM heat spreader.... Jan 06 23:47:54 In the spring I open them Jan 06 23:48:15 <-- Lurkan has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 06 23:48:27 gore : i see you love "windows" experience Jan 06 23:48:31 Papyrus, Yeah..I have seen RAM water blocks Jan 06 23:48:42 --> Lurkan (~Lurkan@201.135.159.181) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:48:57 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 06 23:49:13 gee... this cooling business is too much i think Jan 06 23:49:14 * theron779 uses Whoppix Jan 06 23:49:25 maybe someday your box will run underwater as well Jan 06 23:49:33 :) Jan 06 23:49:55 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:49:58 or perhaps someday you need some water cooling for yourself too Jan 06 23:50:10 Hmmm? Jan 06 23:50:12 :P Jan 06 23:50:25 Straterra : this cooling business is too much i think Jan 06 23:50:30 <-- zomtec has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 06 23:50:39 anyone here named shilo on linux questions ? Jan 06 23:50:41 Papyrus, it depends on how much you invest in your machine Jan 06 23:50:55 --> assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:51:01 * MAN_Hater thinks mini aircondictioners will be next Jan 06 23:51:05 <-- ReNz0r` has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 06 23:51:12 Straterra : yes. but i prefer using good HSF for my GPU and CPU. heat spreader is enough for my RAM. Jan 06 23:51:59 BBIAS Jan 06 23:52:04 --> thubi52 (~thubi@med.pub.ro) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:52:06 <-- Straterra has quit (Client Quit) Jan 06 23:52:58 <-- rh0` has quit ("Abandonando") Jan 06 23:53:12 --> ICeSToRM (~menot@VA1-1D-u-0647.mc.onolab.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:54:37 --> [M4rk0] (~sIRC@212.247.71.242) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:54:43 <[M4rk0]> my ladies yo again :) Jan 06 23:54:45 <[M4rk0]> phrag man Jan 06 23:54:57 <[M4rk0]> look this protftpd.conf Jan 06 23:54:57 <[M4rk0]> # Umask 022 is a good standard umask to prevent new dirs and files Jan 06 23:54:57 <[M4rk0]> # from being group and world writable. Jan 06 23:54:57 <[M4rk0]> Umask 022 Jan 06 23:54:57 <-- nixor has kicked [M4rk0] from ##slackware (flood) Jan 06 23:54:57 --> [M4rk0] (~sIRC@212.247.71.242) has joined ##slackware Jan 06 23:55:01 <[M4rk0]> Umask 022 Jan 06 23:55:03 * MAN_Hater hidez my Yo_Yo Jan 06 23:55:10 <[M4rk0]> and Jan 06 23:55:18 <[M4rk0]> this comment is shitty Jan 06 23:55:28 <[M4rk0]> i can surf trought dirs Jan 06 23:55:44 i do not know whom "your ladies" are, but i would imagine they were not here Jan 06 23:55:57 [M4rk0], you didnt read man pages of proftpd good Jan 06 23:56:00 I think [M4rk0] is strange Jan 06 23:56:09 or all docu... Jan 06 23:56:24 * MAN_Hater is glad phrag has a lady named nixor (hiding after this comment) Jan 06 23:57:57 <[M4rk0]> phrag: man ladies Jan 06 23:57:57 hi there Jan 06 23:57:57 <[M4rk0]> smps i read comment in proftd.conf and umask 022 is to prevent files from world Jan 06 23:57:57 --- _ReNz0r` is now known as ReNz0r` Jan 06 23:57:57 <[M4rk0]> what umod i should set Jan 06 23:57:57 anyone have compiled succsessflully slylpheed 1.0.0 in -current? Jan 06 23:57:57 <-- ncawgneato has quit () Jan 06 23:59:32 [M4rk0], you schould then read in docs what does "DefaultRoot" in proftpd.conf can do Jan 06 23:59:59 [W4rk0] here catch - this may help you in that adventure http://www.sastk.org/ Jan 07 00:00:23 <[M4rk0]> MAN_Hater talk for me about this MAN Jan 07 00:00:25 <-- dwolf has quit ("Leaving") Jan 07 00:00:47 <[M4rk0]> MAN_Hater tnx anyway :) Jan 07 00:01:05 [W4rk0] others have done what you seek - yet it get complicated - the url I sent you is a more secure slack Jan 07 00:01:19 <[M4rk0]> ok Jan 07 00:01:28 (I mean it has a few tweaks in it - stating "more secure " is not true statement - but Jan 07 00:01:45 it is a good study Jan 07 00:01:55 <[M4rk0]> ok Jan 07 00:02:02 it is old tho Jan 07 00:02:06 --> LMNO (~phase1@wbar8.sea1-4-4-088-023.sea1.dsl-verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:02:12 <[M4rk0]> i love slack man it's the best distro out there ;) Jan 07 00:02:56 [M4rk0] : right on Jan 07 00:03:57 <-- liberviscom has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 07 00:04:21 need help fixing disk partition table Jan 07 00:04:52 I have 2 partition when looking at them with cfdisk Jan 07 00:04:53 eh why doesn't anyone have an easy answer to what {W4rk0] seeks ? isn't it reasobale to want a user to only have access to a home dir ? (I mean I understand it there is more to this - but isn't there a doc somewhere or a url ? Jan 07 00:05:12 one ntfs the other linux Jan 07 00:05:30 <[M4rk0]> thanx everybody Jan 07 00:05:37 the problem is I have a block on my ntfs partition hdd6 Jan 07 00:05:37 <[M4rk0]> MAN_Hater i found it Jan 07 00:05:38 <[M4rk0]> DefaultRoot ~ users,!staff Jan 07 00:05:40 how can I fix Jan 07 00:05:56 --> CSRx (~mlehman0@24.115.33.102.res-cmts.brd.ptd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:06:19 [W4rk0] write short doc for the next person please Jan 07 00:06:29 [M4rk0], DefaultRoot ~/public_html users Jan 07 00:06:51 [M4rk0], and read docs Jan 07 00:07:00 <[M4rk0]> MAN_Hater you're my man why should this exists if every answer is man this man that Jan 07 00:07:14 haha Jan 07 00:07:28 <[M4rk0]> smps what i need to read 1 hour doc to find one line you can write for 5 sec Jan 07 00:07:30 heh Jan 07 00:07:40 ? Jan 07 00:07:54 how do I fix a wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd6 Jan 07 00:08:02 --> burn|mac (~burn@adsl-218-162-9.jax.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:08:05 * MAN_Hater {w4rk0] now now - you know the other answer is always "spyware" (wait thats for msvvindows Jan 07 00:08:22 <[M4rk0]> hahha Jan 07 00:08:24 <[M4rk0]> :) Jan 07 00:08:28 <[M4rk0]> -lol Jan 07 00:08:29 --- theron779 is now known as bah_ Jan 07 00:08:39 how do you find out if any ports are being forwarded to you if you don't have access to your router? Jan 07 00:08:39 mount -o ro,remount / should remount my mounted / filesystem as read only yes? Jan 07 00:08:43 --- bah_ is now known as theron779 Jan 07 00:09:10 <[M4rk0]> CSRx you'll find answer here: man router Jan 07 00:09:12 <[M4rk0]> hahaha Jan 07 00:09:29 --> JackaLX (~steve@JackaLX.project-lead.eicq) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:09:35 hmmm i doubt that Jan 07 00:09:39 LWNO hdd6 ? Jan 07 00:09:44 <[M4rk0]> see ya people Jan 07 00:09:47 k Jan 07 00:09:48 <[M4rk0]> MAN_Hater you're the man! Jan 07 00:09:49 how do I fix a wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd6 Jan 07 00:09:53 <[M4rk0]> see ya soon ;) Jan 07 00:09:59 <-- [M4rk0] has quit ("I'm simple, you can be too but only if you have SimpleIRC v3.2 XP") Jan 07 00:10:16 --> skubee (1000@c-24-21-137-201.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:10:23 LMNO : you have Hard Drive on secondary slave ? Jan 07 00:10:26 <-- thubi52 has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 07 00:10:33 yes Jan 07 00:10:39 <-- Soptecpe has quit ("Abandonando") Jan 07 00:10:43 <-- JackaLX has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 07 00:10:48 [M4rk0], because you need lot more to configure ......... Jan 07 00:11:01 everything was fine till I tried to partion the free space for a nix partition Jan 07 00:11:03 --> prayforwind (~prayforwi@HSE-Toronto-ppp304348.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:11:05 * MAN_Hater learned about 6s last month Jan 07 00:11:11 --> Slack_Rox (~Slack_Rox@pcp0010004482pcs.centrl01.va.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:11:17 <-- prayforwind has quit (Client Quit) Jan 07 00:11:23 heh Jan 07 00:11:36 --> JackaLX (~steve@JackaLX.project-lead.eicq) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:11:48 --> smoke_ (~smoke@64.140.93.2) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:11:52 bah Jan 07 00:11:57 whats a good hex editor for x? Jan 07 00:12:07 can some one help plz Jan 07 00:12:17 <-- CSRx has quit () Jan 07 00:12:18 --> Dominian (~dominian@dominian.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:12:43 ... Jan 07 00:14:00 LMMNo- ok here goes but these terms are not correct Jan 07 00:14:08 --> fourdeb (~theron@168-103-166-70.tukw.qwest.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:14:15 ok Jan 07 00:14:16 * mheath returns Jan 07 00:14:29 smoke_, if you use gnome (or have GTK...) I think theres a program called ghex Jan 07 00:14:46 you see - you can only have 4 parttions in nix - so you can have like extended or logigal parttions after that ****they start at number 6 Jan 07 00:14:52 --> ph0enix (~phoenix@201-003-142-005.nhoce7005.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:14:58 mheath, thanks Jan 07 00:15:14 hdd means you are on the second cable second drive (guessing here Jan 07 00:15:24 thats right Jan 07 00:15:31 so what does that mean Jan 07 00:15:38 hi how can i say to slackware do dont load httpd on start? Jan 07 00:15:54 JoanBaez, chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd Jan 07 00:16:01 <-- assd has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 07 00:16:13 mheath thanks a lot! Jan 07 00:16:17 +x Jan 07 00:16:21 so the main question is - did you accidently create hdd6 or on purpose (I mean - how many parttions (hda1 hda2 hdc3 do you have - and how many do you want ? Jan 07 00:16:22 oops Jan 07 00:17:06 <-- DarkTide has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 07 00:17:14 --> boow (~boow@dyn46-ter1-pittsburg.fament.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:17:32 MAN_Hater:no I made a new linux partition and by doing so my windows partition on the disk became hdd6 instead of hdd5 which is what it originally was Jan 07 00:18:18 --> sinope (1000@bur-jud-175-061.rh.uchicago.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:18:35 NOTE:now the new partition now acts as both the old hdd5 and hdd6 but functions at the size set for hdd6 Jan 07 00:18:47 <-- Dominian has quit ("I AM a geek! What's your excuse?") Jan 07 00:18:53 ehh - does MS parts get shoved - can someone answer that for me Jan 07 00:19:10 whats the deal with reiser4 it hard to convert my existing slackfs to reiser4 Jan 07 00:19:21 yes Jan 07 00:19:25 <-- juice has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 07 00:19:36 boow, theres no conversion tools... Jan 07 00:19:54 heh Jan 07 00:19:57 So if you want to use Reiser4, you'll have to copy everything elsewhere, format with reiser4, and copy your files back. Jan 07 00:20:05 --> vmhobbes (vmhobbes@ipdial-186-145.tri-isys.com) has joined ##Slackware Jan 07 00:20:07 hmmm id have to reformat kernel patch and all that Jan 07 00:20:14 Yeah Jan 07 00:20:18 should I try messing with fstab by adding both hdd5 and hdd6 to it Jan 07 00:20:23 And reiser4 support only comes in the -mm patchset Jan 07 00:20:25 fred87_ wuz that fer me (grin Jan 07 00:20:39 I just cant loose this data Jan 07 00:20:47 If you patch your kernel against -mm, you'll also be getting a lot of REALLY experimental stuff Jan 07 00:20:59 oh well if it aint broke i wont fix it Jan 07 00:21:09 strange. Jan 07 00:21:15 why the switch to ##slack? Jan 07 00:21:45 MAN_Hater:U have any ideas or suggestions Jan 07 00:21:50 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:21:51 --> juice (~juice@mo-65-41-197-57.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:22:09 is pat gonna add reiser4 to slack Jan 07 00:22:16 LMN0 - ehh so cfdisk shows hdd5 is now hdd6 ? (thats odd - what does fdisk -l <-- thats a lower case L ) show Jan 07 00:22:35 <-- fred87_ has quit ("BitchX: faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive") Jan 07 00:22:58 LMN0 - iwould suggest (back tha damn data up now Jan 07 00:23:21 Can someone explain this to me? Jan 07 00:23:21 d/binutils-2.15.92.0.2-i486-2.tgz: Upgraded to ksymoops-2.4.10. Jan 07 00:23:21 Tried the newer binutils, but it couldn't compile ksymoops due to missing Jan 07 00:23:21 symbols in libbfd.so we'll stick with 2.15.92.0.2 for now... Jan 07 00:23:21 <-- nixor has kicked Straterra from ##slackware (flood) Jan 07 00:23:21 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:23:21 it shows the same thing Jan 07 00:23:25 ok then it is there on that hddx Jan 07 00:23:38 yeah but why can I mount it Jan 07 00:23:42 mount it and back it up Jan 07 00:23:48 --> dwolf (~unknown@dwolf.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:23:50 I would but I cant Jan 07 00:23:50 -oh - I missed that sorry Jan 07 00:24:05 --> nomasteryoda (~nomastery@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:24:11 k so you want to mont which parttion Jan 07 00:24:21 LMNO : you want to access hdd6 which is ntfs ? Jan 07 00:24:21 --> SlyFerret (1000@dhcp26133251.columbus.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:24:26 # /dev/hdd6 Jan 07 00:24:28 type the command you are using Jan 07 00:24:42 #mount /dev/hdd6 Jan 07 00:24:52 * MAN_Hater scrolls back to find what hdd6 is Jan 07 00:25:01 hdd6 is ntfs Jan 07 00:25:23 LMNO : you have ntfs support on kernel ? Jan 07 00:25:26 <-- Straterra has quit (Client Quit) Jan 07 00:25:28 yes Jan 07 00:25:33 <-- boow has quit ("Leaving") Jan 07 00:25:37 nah it should be something like mount dev/hdd6 -t ntfs /mnt/hdd6 Jan 07 00:25:38 all other are working and this one was aswell Jan 07 00:25:42 until now Jan 07 00:26:10 or whatever the correct -type is for ntfs Jan 07 00:26:21 mount: mount point /mnt/hdd6 does not exist Jan 07 00:26:31 what type of BS is this Jan 07 00:26:37 normal Jan 07 00:26:48 LMNO : have you reboot after doing cfdisk ? Jan 07 00:27:09 hi :) Jan 07 00:27:09 just either use an empty one that it is there or make one (it's a dir basicially (I cheat and use mc Jan 07 00:27:11 yes but I I yet to format the linux partition could that be it? Jan 07 00:27:23 welcome back fred87 Jan 07 00:27:43 Papyrus:yes but I I yet to format the linux partition could that be it? Jan 07 00:28:39 huh ? Jan 07 00:28:40 time to upload the day's work :| Jan 07 00:29:03 LMNO: ready heres the scoop (ok in /mnt you have floppy hda and so on and so forth - you can add a device ( a dir ) to the dir /mnt (example slackware comes with /mnt/floppy (but not /mnt/hdd6 Jan 07 00:29:28 * MAN_Hater hopes it comes with /mnt/floppy cuz mine did Jan 07 00:29:58 so your telling me to add the the mount point hdd6 how do I do this Jan 07 00:30:19 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:30:23 mkdir /mnt/hdd6 Jan 07 00:30:43 it the /mnt/hdd6 is not there - when you type "mount /dev/hdd6 (type of parttion here ) -t nfs /mnt/hdd6 <-- becuase you entered this it will look for hdd6 as what we call a mount point Jan 07 00:31:04 * MAN_Hater not we but the damn docs and how tos Jan 07 00:31:57 LWNO yes what papyrus said "mkdir /mnt/hdd6 Jan 07 00:32:09 ok done Jan 07 00:32:22 must I do the next part with the ntfs in the command or no Jan 07 00:32:24 Hard to mount to a directory that doesn't exist Jan 07 00:32:25 :P Jan 07 00:32:28 (does not know the -t for ntfs Jan 07 00:32:39 MAN_Hater, its ntfs Jan 07 00:32:42 -t ntfs Jan 07 00:33:05 Well, thats for the kernel read-only module, IIRC Jan 07 00:33:10 yet the command would be something like mount /dev/hdd6 -t ntfs /mnt/hdd6 Jan 07 00:33:14 Not sure what the third party/safe NTFS one is Jan 07 00:33:26 should I use this command to mount the dir: mount dev/hdd6 -t ntfs /mnt/hdd6 Jan 07 00:33:31 MAN_Hater, yeah..unless he makes an entry into fstab Jan 07 00:33:31 * MAN_Hater or you could cheat and use the slax cd - but thats a whole diff subject - lol Jan 07 00:33:35 LMNO, try it Jan 07 00:33:46 ok one sec Jan 07 00:33:49 And it's /dev/hdd6 Jan 07 00:33:53 Not dev/hdd6 Jan 07 00:34:04 oops it is - I blew the command Jan 07 00:34:07 mount: special device dev/hdd6 does not exist Jan 07 00:34:14 <-- AthlonRob has quit ("Leaving") Jan 07 00:34:22 LMNO, read what I said Jan 07 00:34:25 anyone know something which can do an "intelligent" sync over ftp? Jan 07 00:34:33 fred87, I think wget can Jan 07 00:34:34 :/ Jan 07 00:34:36 rsync Jan 07 00:34:36 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd6, Jan 07 00:34:36 or too many mounted file systems Jan 07 00:34:49 fred87: lftp or rsync Jan 07 00:34:53 LMNO, do you have NTFS compiled into your kernel? Jan 07 00:34:59 yes Jan 07 00:35:04 Straterra where were you before I typed all this and s/he asked about "can I just add a line in fstab ? (grin Jan 07 00:35:11 :P Jan 07 00:35:18 I have 2 other NTFS partitions up and working Jan 07 00:35:22 <-- rdl has quit ("Leaving") Jan 07 00:35:29 <-- dwolf has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 07 00:35:33 --> dwolf_ (~unknown@dwolf.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:35:35 LMNO, then..use what you did to get those working? Jan 07 00:35:36 :P Jan 07 00:35:43 --> AthlonRob (~rob@65.182.230.24) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:35:55 elijah_b, cool didn't know rsync could ftp Jan 07 00:35:55 I did nothing I just installed Jan 07 00:36:02 LMNO, LoL Jan 07 00:36:06 Look in /etc/fstab Jan 07 00:36:11 ok Jan 07 00:36:12 Straterra LMNO stated hdd5 moved to HDD6 (is this possible Jan 07 00:36:14 And use your other NTFS lines as a guide Jan 07 00:36:24 MAN_Hater, if you use udev, I guess it could Jan 07 00:36:39 Also, hdd5 and 6 are logical, iirc Jan 07 00:36:46 * MAN_Hater mublez I am starting to dislike this udev stuff Jan 07 00:37:08 udev is a POS, IMHO Jan 07 00:37:14 yes, it is logical Jan 07 00:37:14 MAN_Hater : udev is cool Jan 07 00:37:14 MAN_Hater : a little betta than devfs i think Jan 07 00:37:18 Straterra : POS ? Jan 07 00:37:21 ooh Jan 07 00:37:26 i get it Jan 07 00:37:32 :) Jan 07 00:37:35 --> Analyzer__ (~Analyzer@ts3-a208.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:37:46 Papyrus (but I like to write on skins instead of paper also (hehe just kidding Jan 07 00:37:54 --> assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:38:03 get this hdd6 is in my fstab and is set exactlly as my other NTFS partitions Jan 07 00:38:12 what now? Jan 07 00:38:15 udev can help you get rid all those many nasty block dev on /dev Jan 07 00:38:16 <-- got it Jan 07 00:38:39 LMNO, try "mount /mnt/hdd6" Jan 07 00:39:07 <-- Slack_Rox has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 07 00:39:12 mount: can't find /mnt/hdd6 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab Jan 07 00:39:30 Then you didn't modify your /etc/fstab correctly Jan 07 00:39:44 post an example Jan 07 00:39:52 Post the line you have Jan 07 00:39:55 # /dev/hdd6 /ntfs-c ntfs ro 1 0 Jan 07 00:40:01 post an )correctly)example Jan 07 00:40:09 LMNO... Jan 07 00:40:16 yes Jan 07 00:40:17 Change ntfs-c to /mnt/hdd6 Jan 07 00:40:25 And uncomment it, LoL Jan 07 00:40:39 its commented so I can post it here Jan 07 00:40:47 yes that # mean overlook this commandline Jan 07 00:40:51 Ah, ok Jan 07 00:40:55 MAN_Hater, CUPS did found /dev/lp0 Jan 07 00:41:01 But make the change, save and try the command again Jan 07 00:41:15 waves a happy wave to analyzer - hey there and welcome back Jan 07 00:41:39 Analyzer__: so you are printing now ? Jan 07 00:41:51 * Papyrus waves to MAN_Hater so he can pipe it too Analyzer__ Jan 07 00:41:59 MAN_Hater, yes Jan 07 00:42:13 kewlnes Jan 07 00:42:31 --> Kurt2 (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:42:41 * MAN_Hater eyes Papyrus's pipe Jan 07 00:42:53 one sec brb Jan 07 00:43:11 * Papyrus disconnecting the pipe Jan 07 00:43:11 <-- LMNO (~phase1@wbar8.sea1-4-4-088-023.sea1.dsl-verizon.net) has left ##slackware Jan 07 00:43:11 MAN_Hater, i have to restart CUPS daemon and cupsd see LPT port:) Jan 07 00:43:11 <-- sinope has quit ("w00t") Jan 07 00:43:35 --> chris26 (~chris@roc-66-66-60-179.rochester.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 00:43:51 hi all Jan 07 00:44:00 Analyzer__: humm ask someone here - that seems an easy fix somehow Jan 07 00:44:00 This sucks..I am in a "boil water" county..City is telling everyone in the area to boil the water before drinking it Jan 07 00:44:07 updated kde, put in a new kernel, and now xine wont play dvd's fo rme Jan 07 00:44:23 --> newbiee (~knoppix@85.96.96.21) has joined ##slackware **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jan 7 00:44:56 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 7 23:28:45 2005 Jan 07 23:28:45 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 07 23:28:46 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support Channel - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | Jan 07 23:28:46 --- Topic for ##slackware set by phrag at Wed Jan 5 13:16:34 2005 Jan 07 23:28:47 -ChanServ- [##slackware] #slackware has moved to ##slackware to fit the freenode channel ownership policies a bit better. If you've been forwarded from #slackware, please "/part #slackware" so your client won't be confused! Jan 07 23:28:47 --- ##slackware :[freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup Jan 07 23:28:53 but when it was time to format the disks, it tried to format the cdrom Jan 07 23:28:55 --- You are now known as smps Jan 07 23:29:02 and i didn' find any hard disk Jan 07 23:29:36 ^griffin^: you want to rebuild everything from source ? Jan 07 23:29:42 the chipset is the promise Jan 07 23:30:10 <^griffin^> mako-sama: on a different architecture, yes. Jan 07 23:30:37 not amd64 by any chance, right ? Jan 07 23:31:03 <^griffin^> Nah, ev67. Jan 07 23:31:21 whatever that is. Jan 07 23:31:24 anyway Jan 07 23:31:24 <^griffin^> Alpha Jan 07 23:31:46 --> Artimus (~jared@66-168-2-157.cli.wi.charter.com) has joined ##Slackware Jan 07 23:32:02 i havn't looked for build scripts, but if they don't exist, then there is no need for them Jan 07 23:32:17 is it possible to pause a linux terminal? Jan 07 23:32:24 with a keythat is Jan 07 23:32:25 not read Jan 07 23:32:30 compdude: What do you mean by pause? Jan 07 23:32:55 like pressing ctrl+scroll-lock in dos Jan 07 23:33:02 <^griffin^> mako-sama: so you would just compile everything on a floppy or two and hope it reads it properly? Jan 07 23:33:02 somthing like what the 'break' does ? Jan 07 23:33:10 that pauses the terminal output Jan 07 23:33:25 --> Gizzmo (~Gizzmo@xgizzmo.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:33:36 <-- Gizzmo (~Gizzmo@xgizzmo.user) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 07 23:33:43 --> Gizzmo (~Gizzmo@xgizzmo.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:33:43 ^griffin^: i mean there is no need for the build scripts, not the packages Jan 07 23:33:44 and then you press ctrl+scroll-lock again and it continues Jan 07 23:33:49 <_erik> compdude yeah the scroll lock Jan 07 23:33:51 i don't knwo what break does Jan 07 23:34:00 oh ok lol Jan 07 23:34:34 TheBeast: are you there? Jan 07 23:35:31 compdude: ctrl+q in screen Jan 07 23:35:33 (sends xoff) Jan 07 23:36:04 or you could get a character terminal which has a special button just for xon/xoff Jan 07 23:37:27 danke Jan 07 23:37:42 --> crud (~bleeding@adsl-46-27-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:38:16 ^griffin^: if you want to ask someone who really knows about this, ask fred87 when he's back ;) Jan 07 23:38:32 sathia_: yeah Jan 07 23:38:33 <^griffin^> He's compiled everything from scratch or something? Jan 07 23:38:37 i gave to boot param bare.i Jan 07 23:38:51 --> Zarkhalar (1000@68.64.111.211) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:39:14 i use SNAP device drivers, do they have 3d acceleration and if they don't can i install ATI drivers on top of them and get faster 2d/3d performance? and what about xaccelerated? Jan 07 23:39:21 how can i try to locate where my hard disks are? Jan 07 23:39:37 sathia_: are ou having any kind of raid adapter ? Jan 07 23:39:47 dmesg |grep hd Jan 07 23:39:52 see if the kernel detects them Jan 07 23:40:05 ^griffin^: yes.. he's doing slack for x86_64 Jan 07 23:40:06 i have a ok Jan 07 23:40:07 wait Jan 07 23:40:14 can anyone please tell me how can i redirect a port to another on the same box? (when anyone tries to connect to 411, the firewall will connect then actually to 4111) Jan 07 23:40:19 <^griffin^> Ah Jan 07 23:40:27 the chipset is the promise Jan 07 23:40:37 how do i specify all drives? Jan 07 23:40:43 I have no idea about that chipset Jan 07 23:40:53 <-- str has quit ("Leaving") Jan 07 23:40:55 dmesg talks about hda which is the cdrom Jan 07 23:41:11 and: ide0, ide1 Jan 07 23:41:18 all directories inside a directory i mean Jan 07 23:41:25 <-- PiterPunk has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 07 23:41:39 mako-sama: Who is? Jan 07 23:41:43 nothing else Jan 07 23:41:59 (working on an x86_64 port) Jan 07 23:42:01 for dir in {WHAT DO I PUT HERE TO SAY ALL DIRECTORIES}; do cd $dir; ./configure && make && make install; cd ..; done Jan 07 23:42:07 Mine is coming along pretty well... Jan 07 23:42:13 sathia_: dunno, sincerly Jan 07 23:42:15 brb Jan 07 23:42:16 wich package contains libbeep.so ? Jan 07 23:42:17 ^griffin^ just noticed a highlight with you mentioned? Jan 07 23:42:18 <-- TheBeast has quit ("leaving") Jan 07 23:42:26 --> DarkTide_ (~main@dialup-4.156.105.81.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:43:13 Artimus: fred87 is working on it Jan 07 23:43:16 <^griffin^> Yeah, how do you compile the root disks for a version of slackware? I'm looking at doing a port for the alpha. Jan 07 23:43:18 mako-sama: Ahh Jan 07 23:43:25 Artimus: not official though Jan 07 23:43:37 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:43:38 fred87: How's your port going? Jan 07 23:43:49 <-- Myagy has quit () Jan 07 23:44:14 artimus, nearly complete d/, a/, ap/, l/, complete x/, working on xap/ right now, and compiling qt right now Jan 07 23:44:35 talking to you from 64-bit xchat in 64-bit fluxbox in 64-bit xorg, with nvidia binary x86_64 drivers working flawlessly Jan 07 23:44:35 fred87: Wow Jan 07 23:44:51 I'm still on a/, though I've been sick lately Jan 07 23:44:51 --> UnixFoo1 (~deez@ip68-98-179-238.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:44:57 I have a question not related to slack. shuld I shoot? Jan 07 23:44:59 fred87, amd ? Jan 07 23:45:03 artimus, which gcc you using? Jan 07 23:45:09 Artimus: no need to go on that ;) Jan 07 23:45:10 fred87: Let me check Jan 07 23:45:13 we2by: yes but only if you can help me with stunnel Jan 07 23:45:15 wich package contains libbeep.so ? Jan 07 23:45:21 smps: yah Jan 07 23:45:30 fred87, respect Jan 07 23:45:31 M3rL7N, www.slackware.com/pb Jan 07 23:45:33 fred87: 3.4.3 Jan 07 23:45:38 tiaz, sorry, I dunno stunnel Jan 07 23:45:38 good choice :) Jan 07 23:45:39 wb fool Jan 07 23:45:45 <^griffin^> fred87: Did you use the default slackware root disks, or no? Jan 07 23:45:50 :D Jan 07 23:45:55 fred87: What are you using as a build environment? Jan 07 23:45:56 :D~ Jan 07 23:45:58 ^griffin^ oh i used slack-10 as a base Jan 07 23:45:58 ask anyway? Jan 07 23:46:07 <^griffin^> dern, I can't exactly do that heh. Jan 07 23:46:15 fred87: Are you compiling -current or 10? Jan 07 23:46:15 artimus, slackware-10, made some cross-compilers, gradually removed traces of 32-bit stuff Jan 07 23:46:20 compiling -current Jan 07 23:46:31 we2by: of course Jan 07 23:46:36 Can anyone explain how to figure the equation for the DisplaySize variable in X ? Jan 07 23:46:40 it's not like I am the final arbiter of ##slackware justice Jan 07 23:46:54 fred87: I'm doing current using Gentoo as a buold environment Jan 07 23:46:59 From the ground up Jan 07 23:47:04 i tried that... not nice Jan 07 23:47:11 My packages work Jan 07 23:47:14 I think Jan 07 23:47:18 I'm going to finish a/ Jan 07 23:47:20 And then we'll see Jan 07 23:47:26 my cross-compilers and stuff upuntil yesterday are up on ftp://ftp.scarlet.be/pub/slamd64/ Jan 07 23:47:39 if I have exampl.con and I want a name server ns1.example.com. can I register just ns1 without ns2? because I don;t have 2 ip Jan 07 23:47:39 got a *big* upload tonight :P Jan 07 23:48:02 <-- sathia_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 07 23:48:03 artimus, you'll get problems with glibc... Jan 07 23:48:12 we2by: most registrars will require two name servers Jan 07 23:48:12 <-- Lurkan has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 07 23:48:15 we2by, you need two Jan 07 23:48:17 though it is *very* handy having gentoo's patches handy :P Jan 07 23:48:22 damnit :( Jan 07 23:48:22 Get two different free name servers Jan 07 23:48:28 we2by: you can set a backup nameserver Jan 07 23:48:30 we2by, why would you need 2 ips? Jan 07 23:48:32 we2by: zoneedit.com Jan 07 23:48:38 n/m, I think I found it Jan 07 23:48:39 no, I want to test my dns server Jan 07 23:48:44 Straterra: the rfc wants you to have it and 1and1.com requires you to Jan 07 23:48:47 fred87: What did you have to do to get a cross compiler working? Jan 07 23:48:56 why does my 'The Linux Users' Guide' user-beta-1.gs look like crap in gs ? Jan 07 23:48:59 can u register both ns1 and ns2 to the same ip? Jan 07 23:48:59 artimus i used cross-tool to make them :P Jan 07 23:49:11 fred87: I was messing with it, but had a problem Jan 07 23:49:12 tiaz, what?? Jan 07 23:49:15 it's barely readable and it looks fine in windows.. Jan 07 23:49:17 I already had Gentoo installed Jan 07 23:49:25 tiaz, you do not need 2 IPs, you need 2 name servers Jan 07 23:49:27 i did :P so i made a spare partition Jan 07 23:49:28 can u register both ns1 and ns2 to the same ip? Jan 07 23:49:32 we2by: no you can't. Jan 07 23:49:32 Straterra: you're supposed to have two geographically disparate (different subnets) nameservers Jan 07 23:49:33 we2by, yes Jan 07 23:49:35 y-yeah Jan 07 23:49:48 which one is correct? Jan 07 23:49:50 :\ Jan 07 23:49:51 Oh crap. Gentoo has 2.3.4. I'm going to be in trouble Jan 07 23:49:54 (glibc) Jan 07 23:50:00 <-- jmedina has quit ("Leaving") Jan 07 23:50:01 we2by: registrars will refuse the same IP. some of them even refuse both ns to be on the same subnet Jan 07 23:50:13 I'm going to reboot back to slack... Jan 07 23:50:13 --> ryen (~ryen@83.72.184.157.ip.tele2adsl.dk) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:50:14 <-- Artimus has quit ("leaving") Jan 07 23:50:20 we2by: of course you can try your luck. Jan 07 23:50:21 we2by: just get with zoneedit.com , they're free and will provide everything you need Jan 07 23:50:22 artimus, cross-compiling then gradually removing 32-bit keeps compat Jan 07 23:50:28 as it's self-built... Jan 07 23:50:30 oh too late Jan 07 23:50:42 --> darkarcon2015 (~darkarcon@dsl-64-246-157-89.rtr0-cox.statetel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:50:44 we2by: i recommend using somthing like everydns for a backup dns Jan 07 23:50:45 hoy hoy! Jan 07 23:50:57 we2by: or zoneedit as tiaz said Jan 07 23:51:06 yea, in fact I don;t want to run a dns server at all Jan 07 23:51:17 okay, i have never done this before so i need some help; how do i play a dvd? Jan 07 23:51:19 we2by, you don't need to Jan 07 23:51:25 darkarcon2015 DarkTide DarkTide_ DarthShrine Jan 07 23:51:27 There are tons of free DNS providers out there Jan 07 23:51:34 but if u run a hosting server, it is great to have ur own dns servers Jan 07 23:51:48 darkarcon2015, run xine an play it Jan 07 23:51:52 we2by: your registrar might provide a free one, if they don't, then i recommand afraid.org :) Jan 07 23:52:03 we2by: don't forget to donate :) Jan 07 23:52:03 smps i tried t hat Jan 07 23:52:05 mako-sama, hehe Jan 07 23:52:21 I can donate a blank cd Jan 07 23:52:22 :P Jan 07 23:52:29 darkarcon2015, and waht is the problem ? Jan 07 23:52:42 "There is no input plugin available to handle 'dvd:/'." Jan 07 23:53:07 maybe you need libdvdread Jan 07 23:53:27 ryan@darkstar:~$ xine Jan 07 23:53:27 This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.1. Jan 07 23:53:27 (c) 2000-2003 The xine Team. Jan 07 23:53:27 libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 1-rc4a from http://xine.sf.net Jan 07 23:53:27 <-- nixor has kicked darkarcon2015 from ##slackware (flood) Jan 07 23:53:37 woops Jan 07 23:53:39 --> darkarcon2015 (~darkarcon@dsl-64-246-157-89.rtr0-cox.statetel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:53:46 ergh Jan 07 23:54:01 i think it's libdvdread Jan 07 23:54:09 i have no experience with playing dvds.. yet Jan 07 23:54:09 <-- DarkTide has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 07 23:54:11 it said "Libdvdread: Using dvdnav version 1-rc4a from http://xine.sf.net" Jan 07 23:54:11 why oh shy doesn't developer statistically link their files instead of this never ending dependency nightamare Jan 07 23:54:20 in the console that is Jan 07 23:54:22 --> Artimus (~Artimus@66-168-2-157.cli.wi.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:54:26 fred87: Still here? Jan 07 23:54:36 compdude, because things would be huge Jan 07 23:54:41 "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable." Jan 07 23:54:46 libdvdread: Can't stat /dev/dvd Jan 07 23:54:54 aha Jan 07 23:55:09 libdecss Jan 07 23:55:09 what Jan 07 23:55:11 maybe Jan 07 23:55:14 libdvdcss Jan 07 23:55:18 <-- L31F has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 07 23:55:20 which one Jan 07 23:55:27 what smps said Jan 07 23:55:29 libdvdcss <- this one Jan 07 23:55:29 :) Jan 07 23:55:35 haha, alright Jan 07 23:55:42 artimus, yah Jan 07 23:55:46 Gizzmo: supply two binaries Jan 07 23:56:13 fred87: For cross-tool, what options did you change in x86_64.dat? Jan 07 23:56:16 artimus, cross-compiling a native toolchain + kernel, then doing native from within slack really reduces chances of incompatabilities Jan 07 23:56:22 artimus, um i can't remember :| Jan 07 23:56:23 mplayer and VideLan are better IMHO Jan 07 23:56:23 i also sont seem to have a "/dev/dvd" Jan 07 23:56:26 dont* Jan 07 23:56:30 fred87: You don't have it installed anymore? Jan 07 23:56:34 artimus, nope Jan 07 23:56:42 My glibc started giving me errors... Jan 07 23:56:51 but binary .tar.bz2 of the end result is on ftp://ftp.scarlet.be/pub/slamd64/ Jan 07 23:57:14 darkarcon2015: what is the device name of your dvd ? Jan 07 23:57:30 fred87: hmmm... That could work too ^_^ Jan 07 23:57:32 okay, i installed libdvdcss Jan 07 23:57:41 anything else that i need to do? Jan 07 23:57:48 artimus, feel like instead of competing, merging? Jan 07 23:57:52 there's a lot of distro :P Jan 07 23:57:54 darkarcon2015: assuming it's /dev/hdc, do somthing like this: ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd Jan 07 23:58:05 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-216-76-227-45.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 07 23:58:05 fred87: I'm working on -current Jan 07 23:58:11 so am i Jan 07 23:58:17 fred87: I thought you were doing 10 Jan 07 23:58:19 how can i find out where my dvd drive is located at? Jan 07 23:58:24 i compiled -current from 10 Jan 07 23:58:27 i have a DVD/CD-RW combo drive Jan 07 23:58:33 fred87: Oh, I thought you said you recompiled 10 Jan 07 23:58:40 darkarcon2015: how do you mount your dvd ? Jan 07 23:58:42 fred87: Can I message you? Jan 07 23:58:45 sure :P Jan 07 23:58:58 darkarcon2015: secondary master or slave? Jan 07 23:58:58 mako-sama: i have never used a dvd in linux before Jan 07 23:59:07 only cds Jan 07 23:59:10 ok.. answer XGizzmo :) Jan 07 23:59:20 what is that Jan 07 23:59:35 heh Jan 07 23:59:45 ?? Jan 07 23:59:52 darkarcon2015: ok.. how do you mount any disk you put in your DVD drive ? Jan 08 00:00:04 or do you have a seperate drive you use for CDs only ? Jan 08 00:00:30 <-- Zarkhalar has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 08 00:00:41 i do "mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom Jan 08 00:00:43 " Jan 08 00:00:58 no, i only have one disk drive Jan 08 00:01:42 darkarcon2015: you replaced your cdrom with a dvd? Jan 08 00:01:42 darkarcon2015: ok.. /dev/cdrom is actually a symbolic link to your actual drive. try: 'ls -l /dev/cdrom' to see where the link is pointing to Jan 08 00:02:27 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2005-01-07 12:42 /dev/cdrom -> hdc Jan 08 00:03:02 XGizzmo: haha no, i have never had a stand-alone DVD drive, my only disk drive is a DVD/CD-RW drive Jan 08 00:03:02 darkarcon2015: then do the exact command i gave you before: ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd Jan 08 00:03:17 --> Fuzz (~Fuzz@ioan530-a028.otenet.gr) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:03:27 okay Jan 08 00:03:49 darkarcon2015: thats it. try to play somthing now Jan 08 00:04:03 <-- dimm0k has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 08 00:04:07 NICE Jan 08 00:04:10 IT WORKS! Jan 08 00:04:16 PRAISE THE LORD Jan 08 00:04:18 >_> Jan 08 00:04:22 thanks a lot guys Jan 08 00:06:33 <-- vurte has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 08 00:07:01 <-- grumpydog has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 08 00:07:16 well im out, off to watch Schindler's List Jan 08 00:07:22 thanks again Jan 08 00:07:24 <-- darkarcon2015 has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 00:15:26 --> zomtec (~zomtec@p508106FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:15:28 --> jorge_ (~jorge@212.24.150.227) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:15:38 <-- subcreated has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 08 00:15:41 hi, please how to mount usb mass storage? Jan 08 00:16:19 <-- X[z]X has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 08 00:16:31 --> subcreated (~subcreate@loudsl01-253-109-121.iglou.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:16:34 --> Blade_Run (~icechat5@67-42-131-111.albq.qwest.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:16:46 --> MAN_Hater (~Too_Rude@adsl-70-240-88-132.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:16:53 * MAN_Hater waves Jan 08 00:16:58 what othe slack distros are pretty decient? Jan 08 00:17:18 peanut ? Jan 08 00:17:20 --> nachox (~Emi@200-122-59-216.dsl.prima.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:17:28 * MAN_Hater waves Jan 08 00:17:33 --> unique (~unique@CPE0006258edd3a-CM014320102140.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:17:40 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 00:17:54 --> kop (~trillian@64-40-60-134.nocharge.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:17:55 --> sigma957 (~none@c-24-21-85-156.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:17:56 nachox - do you understand snort and squil and acid ? Jan 08 00:18:14 MAN_Hater, huh? what? Jan 08 00:18:19 hehe Jan 08 00:18:44 nachoxI was just reading about them - and was wondering if you get that deep into the net Jan 08 00:18:59 <-- ^griffin^ (griffin@dcn242-205.dcn.davis.ca.us) has left ##slackware Jan 08 00:19:01 nachox: you snort squil and acid? Jan 08 00:19:03 <-- juice has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 08 00:19:06 <-- mmu_man has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 08 00:19:19 WTF is that? Jan 08 00:19:29 --> bugz (~grind@24.0.176.112) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:19:32 hold on nachox I will send a url Jan 08 00:19:39 <-- compdude (~kads@ti211310a081-7225.bb.online.no) has left ##slackware Jan 08 00:19:53 --> mmu_man (revol@ALyon-112-1-15-117.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:20:23 it is IDS (software (intrusion detection software (and analises Jan 08 00:20:30 wtf Jan 08 00:20:32 EBADCHAN Jan 08 00:20:44 squil = http://sguil.sourceforge.net/images/0.5/eventqry.png Jan 08 00:20:49 * XGizzmo hides before nachox pummels him. Jan 08 00:21:14 MAN_Hater, ohh, that snort and that acid, i dont use them, but ask unixfool Jan 08 00:21:44 k ... thanx (grinin Jan 08 00:21:46 --> n2iko (n2iko@ool-182c5a59.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:21:55 --> epic_ (~epic@ti112220a080-0685.bb.online.no) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:22:02 hi hi Jan 08 00:22:02 --> juice (~juice@mo-65-41-197-57.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:22:03 * MAN_Hater left out bas just cuz Jan 08 00:22:18 * MAN_Hater left out bas just cuz(bas+e Jan 08 00:22:30 waves to Legendre Jan 08 00:22:42 hi MAN_Hater Jan 08 00:22:46 Legendre: sup man Jan 08 00:23:05 XGizzmo - ntm, just back from work. Jan 08 00:23:06 --> _marlon_ (~My@201-010-074-179.cscgo7006.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:23:11 --> fh0bia (~fhobia@129.65.51.19) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:23:13 welcome back Jan 08 00:23:15 YO YO YO Jan 08 00:23:22 didn't realize it was friday till this afternoon =/ Jan 08 00:24:07 so, time for the so-called weekend. Jan 08 00:24:29 weekends are so ummm short Jan 08 00:24:56 --> Pechorin (~cabrilo@adsl-68-93-194-212.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:25:49 I know this is way off topic, but does anyone know how to align a lens on cd player? Jan 08 00:26:04 heh.. Jan 08 00:26:07 Pechorin, ther is no alinment Jan 08 00:26:17 no, but there is focus and power. Jan 08 00:26:29 * MAN_Hater wonders how many years of classes I would have to take to understand the parts of this png that I do not http://sguil.sourceforge.net/images/0.5/rtevents.png Jan 08 00:27:20 for focus, you can always get a disc playing then run the pot up (till it mistracks) , down (till it mistracks) and then set it center between those positons. :) Jan 08 00:27:23 Legendre: both of which you need special equipment to adjust Jan 08 00:27:26 <-- epic has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 08 00:27:30 that kind of thing works often. Jan 08 00:27:56 Legendre, it's a laptop cd player :) Jan 08 00:28:12 omg, you're screwed! Jan 08 00:28:31 <-- Tukon has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 08 00:28:33 well, there is an easily accessible pot, but I've no idea what to do with it :) Jan 08 00:28:42 err, you turn it ;) Jan 08 00:28:43 geez Jan 08 00:28:47 what a nightmare Jan 08 00:28:50 <-- Blade_Run has quit ("There is a byte stuck in my modem!!") Jan 08 00:28:50 * MAN_Hater thinks dropping it while running three time as Legendre suggested might work (NOT) Jan 08 00:28:58 power most likely Jan 08 00:29:04 eh phrag? Jan 08 00:29:19 phrag: have X + fluxbox :) Jan 08 00:29:20 my modem died on my for hours Jan 08 00:29:21 right :) but, how much? I am kind of "afraid" to turn it too much... I acutally got it working by moving it a bit, and then it failed again :( Jan 08 00:29:21 --> ohm_ (1002@DSL217-132-19-72.bb.netvision.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:29:22 + xchat Jan 08 00:29:34 * MAN_Hater pictures someone dropping it first face down - then backside down - then on each edge Jan 08 00:29:50 could of been kernel confliction, anyway, took me hours to get back Jan 08 00:29:52 phag cable or hardware? Jan 08 00:30:05 <^Jenn> =) Jan 08 00:30:12 hello ^Jenn Jan 08 00:30:14 shit usb modem got with line Jan 08 00:30:15 <^Jenn> hello Jan 08 00:30:28 <-- jorge_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 00:30:30 XGizzmo: is a chew to insert firmware from win32 dll Jan 08 00:30:46 Hello guys, you might help me, I am working in Slack 10. I wanna save a variable (the ones you see with set) and I was wondering what is the file that I need to? I don't have .bashrc and when I even create it, and put it there, it does not change it. Jan 08 00:30:47 <^Jenn> im so ghetto im eating a hot dog with mashed tatoes for dinner lol Jan 08 00:30:56 <-- fh0bia has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 00:31:06 ^Jenn: what no collard greens? Jan 08 00:31:10 <-- mmu_man has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 08 00:31:12 <^Jenn> eww? Jan 08 00:31:26 phrag, usb modem? Jan 08 00:31:26 <^Jenn> i aint from the dirty south yo..i aint eat that crap lol Jan 08 00:31:31 --> slack803 (~c8151bc4@server0.24hostingnow.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:31:33 heh Jan 08 00:31:39 nachox: yes =/ Jan 08 00:31:46 ohm_: Ther'es no such file actually. Put it in /etc/profile.d/ or something if you must. Or... put it in .bashrc and symlink .bash_profile to point at .bashrc and that would work, too. Jan 08 00:31:48 --> mmu_man (revol@ALyon-112-1-15-117.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:32:02 phrag, get a decent one man Jan 08 00:32:02 * foureyes779 pictures ^Jenn eating a "hot dog" Jan 08 00:32:03 nachox: router is next on list Jan 08 00:32:07 * MAN_Hater wonders if XGizzmo has any collard greens and black eyed peas left over from earlier this week ? Jan 08 00:32:13 <^Jenn> lol pervert Jan 08 00:32:17 Oh, so it's .bash_profile? Jan 08 00:32:23 MAN_Hater: not Jan 08 00:32:38 yeah so ??? Jan 08 00:32:44 <-- UnixFoo1 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 08 00:32:45 * MAN_Hater Xgizzmo (hehe no luck fer you this year Jan 08 00:32:52 Oh, it works! Jan 08 00:33:01 nope i will be a unlucky mofo Jan 08 00:33:05 It's .bash_profile.. Thank Dagmar! :-) Jan 08 00:33:16 ok, why doesnt this work ? Jan 08 00:33:20 * MAN_Hater grins 2xgizzmo Jan 08 00:33:21 phrag, its an adsl modem? Jan 08 00:33:22 ya br0ke it Jan 08 00:33:25 ah Jan 08 00:33:32 <-- ohm_ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 08 00:33:35 OhMyAchinLap: It's not exactly .bash_profile, since that's only invoked for login shells (man bash) but it's close enough for you for now apparently. Jan 08 00:33:38 <^Jenn> XGizzmo ill give ya some luck..bend over ;) Jan 08 00:33:44 Well, that was a fun nick completion Jan 08 00:33:58 lol @ ^Jenn Jan 08 00:34:03 <^Jenn> hehe Jan 08 00:34:06 <^Jenn> ;) Jan 08 00:34:17 where oatmeal been? Jan 08 00:34:33 <^Jenn> addicted to diablo Jan 08 00:34:34 nachox: yes, Alcatel Speedtouch Jan 08 00:34:34 <^Jenn> lol Jan 08 00:35:12 damn "if" command anyway Jan 08 00:35:18 <-- ryen has quit ("What would we find, if we were to look behind the border of the Universe?") Jan 08 00:35:29 phrag, its new? i though you had cable Jan 08 00:35:36 --> mmu (revol@ALyon-112-1-15-117.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:35:39 nachox: no, about 4 year old Jan 08 00:35:48 if $USER = "morph" then echo "hi m0Rph" Jan 08 00:36:02 <-- mmu_man has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 08 00:36:07 why does that NOT work ? Jan 08 00:36:15 <^Jenn> cuz Jan 08 00:36:34 i know i know, RTFM Jan 08 00:36:36 nachox: actually, wrong... i have had it longer than i have used linux, as it was the final hurdle i made before switching to linux... the day i got this modem working was the day i started using linux forever =) Jan 08 00:36:43 nachox: so it is over 5 years old Jan 08 00:36:44 if [ $USER == "morph" ]; then echo "hi $USER"; fi Jan 08 00:36:49 <^Jenn> no foureyes779 Jan 08 00:36:52 <^Jenn> RTMFM Jan 08 00:36:53 <^Jenn> :p Jan 08 00:37:18 ^Jenn: any need for the smut and hostility ? Jan 08 00:37:22 * XGizzmo wonders what was in ^Jenn's hotdog Jan 08 00:37:23 <-- boerst` has quit (Client Quit) Jan 08 00:37:27 smut? Jan 08 00:37:29 :O Jan 08 00:37:38 <^Jenn> a techie at work said RTFM to another techie the other day and was shocked i knew what it meant cuz im a gurl :\ Jan 08 00:37:46 * phrag checks the calendar Jan 08 00:37:46 <^Jenn> uhh what smut would that me? Jan 08 00:37:52 Read The Fine Manual? Jan 08 00:37:57 <^Jenn> and what hostility? i was joking hence the :p Jan 08 00:38:10 :] Jan 08 00:38:15 phrag, i have used anadsl usb modem in linux for more than a year, changing it with a regular one was the best thing i did in 2004 Jan 08 00:38:21 <^Jenn> foureyes779 knows i was jokin Jan 08 00:38:29 http://srv.fotopages.com/2/3566372.jpg Jan 08 00:38:39 nachox: it took me a year to get this working when i first started! Jan 08 00:39:09 crud - pretty colourz Jan 08 00:39:18 nachox: the day i did may have been one the happiest i can remember, definately in top 5 best, as i could finally use slackware and leave windows forever Jan 08 00:39:25 yep Jan 08 00:39:25 crud: horrible colours! Jan 08 00:39:32 yep Jan 08 00:39:51 --> spenser (~spenser@user-0c8hmse.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:39:53 * XGizzmo feels the love for ol Bill Jan 08 00:40:04 Sloppy sloppy sloppy. if [ $USER = 'morph' ]; then logout; fi Jan 08 00:40:08 tewmten, the prompt little pink gay ? Jan 08 00:40:32 thinkz tewmten is at an angle and can't see the beauty of the image Jan 08 00:40:37 Bill Gates: One persian cat and a monochle short of being a Jame Bond villian. Jan 08 00:41:34 crud - no the four guys on the bench is the answer to that Jan 08 00:41:50 phrag, i actually helped the developer of the driver of mine get ot working and was for a long time the only one that helped users get it working in linux, i stopped doing it when the channel closed due to inactivity Jan 08 00:42:01 I see... Jan 08 00:42:18 crud i am just kidding (spider down one Jan 08 00:42:46 ok =) Jan 08 00:42:55 found it ? Jan 08 00:42:59 phrag, very rewarding, that brought me do freenode Jan 08 00:43:01 no Jan 08 00:43:27 nachox: its nice to feel usefull Jan 08 00:43:28 http://srv.fotopages.com/2/3566371.jpg (a jethro tull song comes to mind Jan 08 00:43:44 XGizzmo, *nod* Jan 08 00:44:41 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 08 00:45:34 MAN_Hater - Jethro Tull.. what is that? :) Jan 08 00:45:55 * foureyes779 hug's ^Jenn Jan 08 00:46:07 didn't Jethro Tull invent the seed press or something Jan 08 00:46:18 thats what i forgot, the darn "[]" Jan 08 00:46:29 Zalamander - no, that was Eli Whitney. Jan 08 00:46:41 * foureyes779 sing's "aqualung" Jan 08 00:46:49 Zalamander - who also discovered how to make Gin from Cotton. Jan 08 00:46:57 ah, of course, how silly of me Jan 08 00:46:57 <-- slack803 has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 08 00:47:07 crud is that you - what country is that ? - Jan 08 00:47:21 foureyes779 you can also use "test" instead of [] Jan 08 00:47:50 ah nevermind Jan 08 00:48:40 Zalamander: example ? Jan 08 00:48:54 foureyes779 if test $USER = "morgoth"; then slay $USER; fi Jan 08 00:49:02 * MAN_Hater leave the srv alone and ends with a link to xmas foto http://srv.fotopages.com/2/3566379.jpg Jan 08 00:49:12 Zalamander: tnx,i'll give it a try in my script Jan 08 00:49:39 Double-quotes make the string eval'able when it's effectively a constant. Jan 08 00:49:47 It's all about the single-quotes, man! ;) Jan 08 00:50:05 evalable? Jan 08 00:50:25 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:50:34 Meaning the shell goes through it looking for variables it needs to substitute for their values. Jan 08 00:50:55 --> oatmeal (~pioneer@oatmeal.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:51:05 only the example is a constant. The real work may contain substitutions Jan 08 00:51:13 Those double quote are probably wasting at least a dozen femtoseconds Jan 08 00:51:13 so quit yer whining Jan 08 00:51:59 * MAN_Hater waves to oatmeal ...and whispers we know your secret now Jan 08 00:52:42 MAN_Hater: i did not have sexual relations with that woman Jan 08 00:52:47 Staying regular is no secret.. Jan 08 00:52:47 define "sexual" Jan 08 00:52:47 and it's important.. important enough totalk about in here. Jan 08 00:52:47 define "regular" Jan 08 00:52:47 oatmeal - yes that is the one Jan 08 00:52:47 define "define" Jan 08 00:52:47 Zalamander - once a day. Jan 08 00:52:47 <-- blackhat__ has quit ("kill -9 irc -.-") Jan 08 00:53:11 <-- crud has quit ("Powered by pre-r0lled j0int & pr0n") Jan 08 00:53:28 --> BlueThumb (~BlueThumb@217.116.235.34) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:53:46 Legendre I find that consistency is more important than frequency. (Double entendre intentional) Jan 08 00:53:58 i use metamucil to stay regular personally Jan 08 00:54:00 --> Lord_Devi (~ld@S01060010b50e8c16.ss.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:54:09 oatmeal what do you use to stay regular socially? Jan 08 00:54:13 rum Jan 08 00:54:17 I see Jan 08 00:54:34 lol Jan 08 00:54:34 * MAN_Hater thinks oalmeal rums seems tastey Jan 08 00:54:54 I have a question. I wish to setup multiple inbox in mutt for fetched mail, but something i'm a little unclear on. Can I handle that with just mutt or mutt+getmail rather. Or do I need to have getmail drop the mail with procmail or the like to organize it into folders? Jan 08 00:55:27 --- mmu is now known as mmu_man Jan 08 00:55:28 procmail would be the more apropos place to make those filters Jan 08 00:55:38 I suspected as much Jan 08 00:55:51 Ah, multiple drops.. keeping it on-topic. Jan 08 00:55:54 Lord_Devi alternately, you could connect independently, using IMAP Jan 08 00:55:57 Something i need to familiarize myself with anyway Jan 08 00:56:17 it's a pop server though.. gmail doesn't have imap yet Jan 08 00:56:17 Legendre ha! Jan 08 00:56:17 it would be cool if it was imap though =/ Jan 08 00:56:19 Lord_Devi: not sure about getmail, but I do that "fetchmail+procmail->mutt" with procmail organizing it all Jan 08 00:56:24 Lord_Devi hm, maybe mutt does POP too. My idea would still require a separate connection though Jan 08 00:56:40 raindog getmail is basically a replacement for fetchmail Jan 08 00:56:48 Zalamander: mutt does do pop (and imap) Jan 08 00:56:54 Zalamander: gotcha Jan 08 00:57:03 gotcha back atcha Jan 08 00:57:07 ah yeah ok cool Jan 08 00:57:12 fetchmail supports spop, which Gmail also supports Jan 08 00:57:14 Zalamander: hehe Jan 08 00:57:32 Question though. so it would go fetchmail -> procmail -> Maildir/mbox? Jan 08 00:57:40 Lord_Devi: correct Jan 08 00:57:49 or what mail dir is most appropriate for procmail and various mail dirs? Jan 08 00:57:55 Maildir or mbox? Jan 08 00:58:02 Lord_Devi that's personal preference Jan 08 00:58:06 i've only ever used mbox really Jan 08 00:58:07 I use gotmail->postfix->mbox Jan 08 00:58:22 oh yeah? ok cool Jan 08 00:58:24 elijah_b gotmail? Is that like getmail but much faster? Jan 08 00:58:28 lol Jan 08 00:58:38 gotmail is used to rertieve hotmail Jan 08 00:58:45 oh cool Jan 08 00:58:50 i.e. bypass the fugly web interface Jan 08 00:58:52 I hear maildir can be kind of faster for you if you have alot of emails too.. that's about the only diff i know of(i.e. one has to load the entire email collection while the other doesn't) Jan 08 00:58:53 neat Jan 08 00:58:57 and unusable too Jan 08 00:58:59 elijah_b though, you should be using gmail Jan 08 00:59:03 I use both Jan 08 00:59:11 l33t :-) Jan 08 00:59:17 gmail is the shiznit Jan 08 00:59:19 --> avoca (~avoca@159-134-144-46.as1.mvw.galway.eircom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:59:30 I'm just saying, DOWN WITH MICROSOFT and all that. Jan 08 00:59:33 heh Jan 08 00:59:38 hehe Jan 08 00:59:42 --> tux_ (~nomastery@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 00:59:43 someone write a nice doc on email plase - with all ya'll just said Jan 08 00:59:45 yeah i like gmail alot so far Jan 08 00:59:49 i like how it threads conversations Jan 08 01:00:03 I love gmai Jan 08 01:00:03 just wait till gmail eats your soul. Jan 08 01:00:06 I'd like to set something like that up with mutt.. I've had it done once before Jan 08 01:00:08 then you'll come crying. Jan 08 01:00:10 it's pretty cool. I haven't used the web interface much though Jan 08 01:00:20 Lord_Devi: I have that setup now Jan 08 01:00:22 * Lord_Devi just has never set up multiple dirs yet. hehe Jan 08 01:00:31 unfortunately, mutt won't use the remote GMail SMTP server directly Jan 08 01:01:11 it cant? Jan 08 01:01:24 elijah_b as far as I know, mutt requires a local MTA to send mail Jan 08 01:01:30 --> skalet (~skalet@83.251.134.190) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:01:33 instal postfix then Jan 08 01:01:34 it's my ONLY complaint about mutt Jan 08 01:01:35 solved Jan 08 01:01:41 http://bash.org/?434593 Now THAT'S funny... Jan 08 01:01:59 a person shouldn't have to install an MTA on a workstation, or laptop, to be able to send mail through a LAN Jan 08 01:02:44 --> L31F (~L31F@ip216-239-87-107.vif.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:02:48 Legendre hahaha. That's good Jan 08 01:03:17 doo dee doo dmt dee dee doo doo dmt dmt dee dee lsd dee doo.. Jan 08 01:03:29 tewmten: werd Jan 08 01:03:33 * tewmten sings on Divine Moments of Truth, by Shpongle, Jan 08 01:03:37 well of course Jan 08 01:03:40 lol Jan 08 01:03:48 tewmten stp that Jan 08 01:03:51 ? Jan 08 01:04:02 ¿ Jan 08 01:04:11 °¿° Jan 08 01:04:18 --> IronBob (~ironbob@adsl-208-191-166-220.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:05:10 damn, I sure didn't need that Legendre Jan 08 01:05:11 :-] Jan 08 01:05:18 * MAN_Hater wonders why people put their pix on the net http://srv.fotopages.com/2/3566381.jpg Jan 08 01:05:19 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Toronto-ppp296866.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:05:24 raindog you actually visited the URL? Jan 08 01:05:28 raindog - err. did you go to tubgirl?? Jan 08 01:05:29 ditto raindog Jan 08 01:05:44 yeah, had not heard of it before Jan 08 01:05:47 err.. thought you all knew what tubgirl was.. Jan 08 01:05:52 lol, sorr-eee Jan 08 01:05:53 <-- sigma957 (~none@c-24-21-85-156.client.comcast.net) has left ##slackware Jan 08 01:05:53 * raindog feels all goats.cx 'ed Jan 08 01:06:02 I didn't, but I assumed it similar to goats.cx Jan 08 01:06:11 it is.. just more poop. Jan 08 01:06:20 let me just say.... it's NOT work safe Jan 08 01:06:21 lol Jan 08 01:06:22 thanks for the info Jan 08 01:06:32 * Zalamander notes "more poop" Jan 08 01:06:35 thank goodness I'm telecommuting today Jan 08 01:06:37 lol Jan 08 01:07:00 Legendre: h0h0h0, that quote rules! Jan 08 01:07:20 tewmten the drugs kicking in? Jan 08 01:07:30 Zalamander: what drugs? Jan 08 01:07:35 MAN_Hater, That you? Jan 08 01:07:36 * Zalamander turns on the lava lamp for tewmten Jan 08 01:07:44 lol Jan 08 01:07:53 geee, thanks Zal :) Jan 08 01:08:02 eelrirverlt - no *smile - yet thanx for the thought *wink* Jan 08 01:08:02 btw, wtf is wrong with Japanese people's pron? Jan 08 01:08:15 Legendre its' all bukake? Jan 08 01:08:19 lol Jan 08 01:08:23 Legendre: well, for starters; it's "Made in Japan" ;) Jan 08 01:08:33 well, and autodefecation apparently. Jan 08 01:08:33 Are you talking about the screaming and degradation, or just the lack of variety in the models? Jan 08 01:08:40 both Jan 08 01:09:13 I've *no* idea Jan 08 01:09:16 <-- nachox has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 01:09:16 I strive to understand them.. quite an interesting race. Jan 08 01:09:18 these are the same folks who also really like to make cartoon porn Jan 08 01:09:29 I stick with good ol' American roundeye porn, personally. Jan 08 01:09:29 raindog - tentacle pron.. Jan 08 01:09:46 --> Kurt (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:09:47 * MAN_Hater mumbles race is something you do with boats and automobiles Jan 08 01:09:56 well don't go badmouthing tentacle porn now Jan 08 01:09:57 * raindog shivers ... "autodefecation" Jan 08 01:10:02 tewmten: lol Jan 08 01:10:19 seems like tentacle rape was first revealed in Evil Dead (American?) Jan 08 01:10:30 MAN_Hater - well, I'm not interested in political correctness. I just use the old plain-tongue. Jan 08 01:10:51 --> milkmutt (~milkmutt@210.50.144.151) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:10:57 <-- jota has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 01:11:03 <-- L31F has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 01:11:04 speaking of which.. I was talking to a lady on the bus a while back... Jan 08 01:11:05 So, Im still trying to figure out how to use my hardware, or what to do to get this computer working right... Jan 08 01:11:08 we2by, got the movie? Jan 08 01:11:14 So i guess everyone's slackware boxes are working perfectly... Jan 08 01:11:16 hehe - ok (grin - give me three substitute words for race (heheh - I had to come up with three one day in calledge Jan 08 01:11:22 eelriverlt lol Jan 08 01:11:26 eelriverlt: heh Jan 08 01:11:33 I wish I knew why it wont work for me, but Ive got to move on, and get something working. Jan 08 01:11:33 MAN_Hater "ethnicity" Jan 08 01:11:39 crackerjack, still downloading Jan 08 01:11:42 and we got to issues of race, and to quip her : "Well, these days, African Americans.. OR BLACK PEOPLE AS WE USED TO BE ABLE TO SAY.." Jan 08 01:11:49 (she was black) Jan 08 01:11:50 lol Jan 08 01:11:54 shh zalamander (no fair helpin' Legendre Jan 08 01:12:02 lol Jan 08 01:12:02 --> L31F (~L31F@ip216-239-87-107.vif.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:12:06 we2by, ok Jan 08 01:12:09 err, ethnicity and race are different things. Jan 08 01:12:12 * Zalamander sells the test answers Jan 08 01:12:14 just ask the government :) Jan 08 01:12:17 Legendre, Black is ok. Jan 08 01:12:18 lol Jan 08 01:12:27 you can't trust the government Jan 08 01:12:36 I prefer the term roundeye, or gwailo. Jan 08 01:12:37 they are the same people running the bloody country! Jan 08 01:12:41 Legendre, I wont list the ones that are not. but black is fine. Jan 08 01:12:52 Gwailo just sounds a lot cooler than honkey, caucasion, or whitey. Jan 08 01:13:09 unless you're an albino Jan 08 01:13:09 gwailo? thats a new one for me. Jan 08 01:13:12 <-- skalet has quit ("like i get any help here?") Jan 08 01:13:13 well, my 'race' is caucasian (or WHITE PEOPLE) but my ethnicity is german. Jan 08 01:13:13 Dagmar I like "haole" (pronounced how-lee) Jan 08 01:13:14 --> X[z]X (~xzx@bzq-218-90-241.red.bezeqint.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:13:15 then whitey works fine Jan 08 01:13:21 It's Korean for "white ghost" (more or less) Jan 08 01:13:26 tewmten - you can call me 'cracker' if you like. Jan 08 01:13:33 Zalamander: Yeah, the hawaiian word Jan 08 01:13:40 Legendre: ok, you can call me a cookie then, if you like Jan 08 01:13:42 * Zalamander knows where "cracker" came from. Do you? Jan 08 01:13:43 It's got a nice roll to it Jan 08 01:13:48 but I prefer to think of myself as the Man With The Long Knife. Jan 08 01:13:50 legendre - oh so you protest anglo (hides as the reply comes thru Jan 08 01:13:54 Legendre: lol Jan 08 01:13:55 tewmten - lol Jan 08 01:14:19 Zalamander: that Chris Rock sketch, when he did a comercial for Nigga' Please cerelas, it was sponsored by the same company that made Cracker Ass Crackers Jan 08 01:14:20 <-- L31F has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 08 01:14:20 :) Jan 08 01:14:22 Legendre, so, errr uuhh... whats up with the knife? Jan 08 01:14:25 --> L31F (~L31F@ip216-239-87-107.vif.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:14:25 Dagmar and "gringo". Anything Spanish is bound to sound nice Jan 08 01:14:27 that's where it comes from Jan 08 01:14:37 dagmar (interest word usage (so white people are the walking dead (smirk ? Jan 08 01:14:48 tewmten heh, I bet that's a funny sketch Jan 08 01:14:50 <-- L31F has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 08 01:14:55 Yeah, but gringo has inherent negative connotations like n... Jan 08 01:14:55 bubba_ - hmm.. Lakotah for 'white man' translates to 'men with the long knives' (swords, I assume). Jan 08 01:14:57 Zalamander: it was :) Jan 08 01:15:04 erhm, is Jan 08 01:15:04 :) Jan 08 01:15:05 Dagmar nah, no more than the rest Jan 08 01:15:11 i cant get cfdisk to recognize my 160GB Maxtor... Jan 08 01:15:20 --> quittt (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:15:22 gwailo is kind of neutral, considerin that Koreans basically consider all non-Koreans inferior in a generic kind of way Jan 08 01:15:23 ankleteeth you sure it's connected properly? Jan 08 01:15:25 do i need to specify a kernel arguement? Jan 08 01:15:28 * MAN_Hater thinks legendre watched the history detectives last night from the land of redcloud Jan 08 01:15:33 yeah, the maxtor utilities sees it fine Jan 08 01:15:49 its able to format and so on Jan 08 01:15:50 MAN_Hater - heh, no I did not. I'm actually about 1/8th Cherokee. Jan 08 01:15:51 Dagmar uh, there's nothing "neutral" about "inferior in a generic kind of way" Jan 08 01:15:55 where is Sandman1??? Jan 08 01:15:57 Dagmar, well... they are not the best engineers now are they? Jan 08 01:16:06 quittt: not here, obviously.. Jan 08 01:16:07 quittt - try #netbsd Jan 08 01:16:10 slack 10 boot CD btw Jan 08 01:16:22 ankleteeth hm, I dunno then. Jan 08 01:16:25 * MAN_Hater thanx dagmar I can sleep better now that I know that (and that they have neucluer weapons Jan 08 01:16:32 tewmten, why obviously? Jan 08 01:16:34 <^Jenn> sandman is taking a break from irc i heard Jan 08 01:16:40 Zalamander, so it should be seeing it then Jan 08 01:16:40 Zalamander: Deal with 'em enough and you'll see they don't really hold it against anyone. It's kind of considered just everyone else's bad luck to not have been born korean. It's more nationalism than racism as far as I can tell Jan 08 01:17:03 quittt: well I think it's quite obvious that he's not here, otherwise he would show up on the list of names that are in fact, in this channel. Jan 08 01:17:06 * MAN_Hater feels the same about everyone Jan 08 01:17:14 hate? Jan 08 01:17:21 I think 'infidel' has a better ring to it then 'gwailo' Jan 08 01:17:22 :) Jan 08 01:17:24 MAN_Hater - hate them all? :) Jan 08 01:17:25 tewmten, hehhe Jan 08 01:17:26 So... I could use some help. im trying to get this working.... but I think I may not have actually found a solution... Jan 08 01:17:29 MAN_Hater: Well, if they work as well as North korean computers do, then I think until they drive the boat all the way to the coast of Texas before launching, I'm not in much danger Jan 08 01:17:33 tewmten - apostate ;) Jan 08 01:17:43 I mean, all the talibans call white people infidels, right? Jan 08 01:17:44 ;) Jan 08 01:17:51 all non-moslems Jan 08 01:17:52 heheh dagmar Jan 08 01:18:09 and to some Jews, the rest of us are Goys. Jan 08 01:18:24 does anybody here has DrSand ICQ, MSN, YAHOO wethever Jan 08 01:18:50 since linux doesnt want to work right with the sis 180 controller, I do have another onboard controller. primary is ata133, and secondary is 100. can I do a software raid stripe with only one ide controller (master/slave on primary) will performace suffer ? Jan 08 01:18:55 http://bash.org/?10868 Jan 08 01:18:55 tiaz (no not hate - just those who were unlucky enough to reincarnate into "anglos" Jan 08 01:18:56 ;) Jan 08 01:18:56 Legendre: That's actually a pretty good parallel to the Korean/Gwailo thing. I'll have to remember that Jan 08 01:18:58 race hate knows no origin.. no group has the monoply on race hate. Jan 08 01:19:01 --> r00tsh3ll (1000@200-096-253-179.bsace7031.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:19:09 let's patent it then! Jan 08 01:19:27 bubba_: Striping with mismatched drives is always going to take a performance hit. Jan 08 01:19:31 "A novel method of exclusion of given racial groups from ones own" Jan 08 01:19:34 tewmten, SCO already did Jan 08 01:19:43 * MAN_Hater looks at Legendre toes to see the 1/8 Jan 08 01:19:43 Dagmar, what do you mean by matched drives? Jan 08 01:19:55 MAN_Hater - look a couple feet up ;) Jan 08 01:20:09 * MAN_Hater yeppers that's one eight Jan 08 01:20:17 * MAN_Hater hides Jan 08 01:20:17 MAN_Hater: anglos? Jan 08 01:20:17 bubba_: I mean identical RPM drives with identical caches on identical speed busses. Ideally you even want the same manufacturer just because of geometry differences Jan 08 01:20:22 eelriverlt: they did? damn crackers! Jan 08 01:20:24 damn, ths is so frustrating. I wish is would jsut work like it does in windows! Jan 08 01:20:24 ...anglo-saxons? Jan 08 01:20:32 how do I go about patching a compressed kernel? Jan 08 01:20:32 saxophone? Jan 08 01:20:33 tewmten, which apps do you recommend? Jan 08 01:20:42 quittt: for what? Jan 08 01:20:43 bubba_: What, you mean _badly_? Jan 08 01:20:45 --> tiagomadeira (~tiago@200-101-230-186.bnut37003.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:20:46 Teratogen - you don't.. you patch the source and recompile. Jan 08 01:20:54 Dagmar, I have brand new identical maxtor 200 gb IDE ata133 drives. Jan 08 01:20:54 ah. Jan 08 01:21:03 hey new evidence that Bush personally authorized torture of prisoners. I hope everyone around the world remembers that half of us Americans did not vote for this guy. Jan 08 01:21:03 thanks Jan 08 01:21:03 He doesn't even use Slackware Jan 08 01:21:03 * Zalamander is Back On Topic! Jan 08 01:21:03 <-- tiagomadeira has quit (Client Quit) Jan 08 01:21:06 /clear Jan 08 01:21:08 ... and it's 4:20 here on the West Coast of the USA. Jan 08 01:21:14 4:19! Jan 08 01:21:15 Zalamander - yeah, nothing a gallon of gas and a match wouldn't fix. Jan 08 01:21:19 * raindog salutes Zalamander :-) Jan 08 01:21:19 Dagmar, well working at all is better than not even seen in linux! Jan 08 01:21:25 tewmten, everything Jan 08 01:21:26 --> Excentric (~Excentric@62.114.166.66) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:21:32 <-- phrag (~phrag@phra.gs) has left ##slackware Jan 08 01:21:33 tiaz it was a joke (scroll up - in reference to dagmar account of his or her take on korean outlook of others in the world - blame all this on legendre -- he started it (but it's not his foult - it's the other 7/8 off hos body protesting life Jan 08 01:21:37 --> newbie`` (1000@212.156.169.187) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:21:42 aha Jan 08 01:21:45 Zalamander, damn, Im late! guess I better get busy! Jan 08 01:21:45 bubba_: Get the two controllers working as normal drive controllers first, _then_ worry about the software RAID. Jan 08 01:21:47 * tiaz is just checking in every couple screens Jan 08 01:21:50 MAN_Hater - oh trust me, it was my fault ;) Jan 08 01:22:10 --> tiagomadeira (~tiago@200-101-230-186.bnut37003.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:22:11 Dagmar, no matter what ive done, the drives will not show up on the raid controller. Jan 08 01:22:11 grin Jan 08 01:22:22 <-- tiagomadeira has quit (Client Quit) Jan 08 01:22:25 quittt: I would suggest linux, and perl, and bash, and xorg, and xmms, and konqueror, and amsn, and ctorrent, and xterm, and php, and mysql, and apache, and sypheed Jan 08 01:22:25 Dagmar, as single drives, or as an array. Jan 08 01:22:26 that's about it Jan 08 01:22:34 bubba_: It's a hardware raid controller? Jan 08 01:22:46 Dagmar nationalism and racism are just two branches of the same thing: bigotry Jan 08 01:22:50 MAN_Hater - I'm not into 'popular views' on things.. but meet me sometime, you'll see that I treat every individual equally. Jan 08 01:22:58 Dagmar, sort of. its onboard, has a bios, but it requires drivers. Jan 08 01:23:04 Zalamander: it's 4:20 there? wel what are you waiting for, get your pipe out and start fropping! Jan 08 01:23:05 ;) Jan 08 01:23:17 tewmten dude, I am multitasking. Not to worry Jan 08 01:23:21 ah Jan 08 01:23:22 oh silly I know that legendre - (besides I know you can take my kidding you a bit Jan 08 01:23:23 Zalamaner: Yeah, but nationalism leans towards "yay us" as opposed to it's polar opposite of "u r teh suk" Jan 08 01:23:28 how convinient Jan 08 01:23:28 :) Jan 08 01:23:30 * raindog hands the USB 2.x hookah to Zalamander Jan 08 01:23:34 there, that's on topic Jan 08 01:23:35 sorta Jan 08 01:23:39 :-D Jan 08 01:23:46 with native linux support, yay! Jan 08 01:23:51 Dagmar that difference is illusory, imo Jan 08 01:24:00 I would like to see a usb powered hookah.. Jan 08 01:24:01 Zalamander: Into communism much? Jan 08 01:24:09 wtf would it need usb power btw? :) Jan 08 01:24:19 If yuo can't be proud of who you are, it's time to break out the sackcloth and ashes and brown shirts. Jan 08 01:24:25 tewmten: lm_sensors ? Jan 08 01:24:25 * MAN_Hater loves watching everyone get so woried over nothing - fact is if anyone here was hatefull they would not be here helping others that they know not which or what country or color they come from Jan 08 01:24:27 Dagmar I don't advocate communism, if that's what you mean Jan 08 01:24:33 raindog: ah, but of course Jan 08 01:24:39 :-D Jan 08 01:24:40 --> Kurt2 (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:24:42 Zalamander: and active cooling to the water :) Jan 08 01:24:44 --> phrag (~phrag@phra.gs) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:24:53 yo phrag Jan 08 01:25:07 Dagmar you can be proud of who you are without defining who you are in terms of race, or nationality, or gendre, or sexual preference Jan 08 01:25:10 MAN_Hater - yeah, that's what xbone was for :p Jan 08 01:25:11 I tried to get another raid controller, but it wont be in till next week... Jan 08 01:25:16 ah, bloody hell, the op is here.. well, back to idling again then.. Jan 08 01:25:17 tewmten snow bongs :-) Jan 08 01:25:17 ;) Jan 08 01:25:32 Zalamander: h0h0.. would go great with that ice hotell they got here in sweden :) Jan 08 01:25:35 hello all, think storm is dropping my connection Jan 08 01:25:39 or modem is on way out Jan 08 01:25:41 Zalamander, yellow snow bongs. Jan 08 01:25:42 <-- rignes has quit ("leaving") Jan 08 01:26:02 phrag, hey man!!! Jan 08 01:26:05 * MAN_Hater starts taking up a collection for phrag's new modem Jan 08 01:26:08 --> boow (~knoppix@dyn05-ter1-pittsburg.fament.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:26:10 phrag, how are the things going? Jan 08 01:26:17 Dagmar personally, I am proud of what I achieve, through my own skill and hard work, not where I am born, or the color of my skin, or anything else I have no control over, and thus no right to be proud of Jan 08 01:26:37 so i guess the only possible way for me to ge a raid0 right now is to figure out why its not working on the sis180 :( Jan 08 01:26:40 Zalamander: now where's the fun in that? Jan 08 01:26:44 heh Jan 08 01:27:07 hey, look at America.. if it wasn't whitey that was in charge for the last 300 years, I'm sure white people would tell a similar story to blacks.. or native americans. Jan 08 01:27:21 is proud I can type Zalamander without using the tab key Jan 08 01:27:29 nobody but nobody has the monopoly on race hate and genocide. Jan 08 01:27:45 how hard is it to upgrade to 2.6.10 and do i need udev Jan 08 01:27:55 Legendre, no, but americans are pretty good at it. Jan 08 01:28:05 --> coren (~coren@blastquake.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:28:10 bubba_ - you really think we are better than any other group? Jan 08 01:28:13 lol, a buddy whos nick is "chronic" just said "damn that's som good hash" Jan 08 01:28:19 on another network of course Jan 08 01:28:20 :) Jan 08 01:28:26 hey bubba_ want to know what else (ALL) Americans are pretty good at ? Jan 08 01:28:29 tewmten, do you compile your kernel? Jan 08 01:28:30 Legendre, I dont see anyone else bombing iraq! Jan 08 01:28:35 quittt: not at the moment Jan 08 01:28:44 quittt: but I compile my own kernel, yes. Jan 08 01:28:47 bubba_ - just look at africa.. black man loves to wipe out other black man.. Jan 08 01:28:49 boow how hard it is depends on your skill level. No you don't need udev, but it can come in handy for some things Jan 08 01:29:04 tewmten, what I need to do to compile? Jan 08 01:29:08 Legendre, not at the scale we americans have done it. Jan 08 01:29:13 bubba_ - um, you can't see Iranians? Jan 08 01:29:16 /part #politics Jan 08 01:29:19 quittt: there's a tutorial about it on www.slackwiki.org iirc Jan 08 01:29:28 phrag - yeah, I done went and did it again. Jan 08 01:29:28 Legendre, not from here. Jan 08 01:29:32 bubba_ - lol Jan 08 01:29:32 what is the advantage to compile? Jan 08 01:29:45 quittt: you can customise it for your own needs Jan 08 01:29:47 quittt bragging rights Jan 08 01:29:47 quittt: take advantage of arch-specific enhancements Jan 08 01:29:55 bubba_ go join tha frekin peace corp Jan 08 01:30:07 my 3D games will get faster? Jan 08 01:30:09 yeah, like if you compile for K6, you can 'take advantage' of the kernel crashing. Jan 08 01:30:12 MAN_Hater, heh... maybe I have? Jan 08 01:30:14 MAN_Hater go join the frekin marines Jan 08 01:30:15 bubba_ take off for the tsunami shore Jan 08 01:30:19 p-p-p-powerbook! Jan 08 01:30:37 MAN_Hater, has anyone ever taken your lame advice before ? Jan 08 01:30:40 * MAN_Hater put your backbone where your beliefs are Jan 08 01:30:41 just me. Jan 08 01:30:46 --> HeatHawk (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:30:52 i hard 2.6 kernel had cdburning problems is it fixed yet Jan 08 01:30:54 meta-ridley aren't you the guy that wanted PIL? I made a package for -current if you want it Jan 08 01:30:56 quittt: also it increases your virtual penis if you have a homebuilt kernel Jan 08 01:31:06 bubba_ - go fix your SiS raid thingy :p Jan 08 01:31:10 I dont need a virtual penis Jan 08 01:31:18 <-- Fuzz has quit ("Quit") Jan 08 01:31:21 how 'bout a virtual vagina then? Jan 08 01:31:24 Legendre, Id love to, how ? Jan 08 01:31:24 Zalamander: nice! will have to grab it from you when i'm not working :) Jan 08 01:31:27 i was gonna say haha Jan 08 01:31:34 how bout some virtual knockers Jan 08 01:31:40 ;) Jan 08 01:31:40 * boow haha Jan 08 01:31:50 quittt I don't recompile unless I have a specific need for a particular feature that's not included. Of course, I get laid a lot in real life, so there's no need there. Jan 08 01:31:57 vk.sourceforge.net.. coming soon Jan 08 01:31:58 hehe Jan 08 01:32:01 Then you'll get virtual spam about virtual cheap viagra Jan 08 01:32:03 hey bubba lame ass - your quote is noted Jan 08 01:32:12 and virtual stds Jan 08 01:32:14 http://lohanfreestyle.com/ Jan 08 01:32:14 <-- At0mic_PC has quit ("Client exciting") Jan 08 01:32:19 there, go watch that.. funny. Jan 08 01:32:28 lindsey lohan? Jan 08 01:32:28 --> qeed (~qeed@dialup-4.235.63.3.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:32:47 <-- Artimus has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 01:32:49 Zalamander - it's really screwd up.. funny, and yet mysogynistic at the same time. So goes hip-hop. Jan 08 01:32:51 MAN_Hater, thats nice, you can keep it for future reference for when you feel the need to tell someone to go somewhere. Jan 08 01:33:03 * Zalamander prefers Scarlet Johannsen anyday. Jan 08 01:33:03 *rowr* Jan 08 01:33:47 Legendre: site won't load, wtf, fix it! Jan 08 01:33:52 *sigh* Jan 08 01:33:57 hahah Jan 08 01:33:58 err, got flash? Jan 08 01:34:13 <-- boow has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 01:34:14 btw, I watched Amish in the City the other day, and damn, them amish chicks are kinda hot! Jan 08 01:34:49 Legendre: nah, it keeps saying "lohanfreestyle.com contacted, waiting for reply..." Jan 08 01:34:51 Ill offer $20 to anyone that can get this sis 180 controller and my raid0 array to work under slackware. Jan 08 01:35:11 tewmten - yeah, I watched that too.. Jan 08 01:35:18 $20 American ? *(smirk Jan 08 01:35:22 I watched Sex in the City, and city girls are hot -- in fact they kind of look like Jessica Parker Jan 08 01:35:25 Kickin' it with da' Amishes! Jan 08 01:35:30 MAN_Hater, ofcourse. Jan 08 01:35:42 Legendre: yeah, totally, rave party with amishes Jan 08 01:35:43 yo yo, I be shunnin' you ass! Jan 08 01:35:44 wicked Jan 08 01:36:44 I've been to the Amish colonies in Amana. Jan 08 01:36:46 hrrmmmm whats an amish rave like? bet thats real fun! Jan 08 01:36:55 lol! do google image search for "hot amish chicks" Jan 08 01:37:03 --> UnixFoo1 (~deez@ip68-98-179-238.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:37:03 bubba_ - they flick kerosin lanterns on & off really fast. Jan 08 01:37:11 <-- qeed (~qeed@dialup-4.235.63.3.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 08 01:37:13 How long before they do "sex in the server room", oh wait I think that was on TelevisionX :) Jan 08 01:37:19 bubba send your hard earned U$20 here http://donate.ifrc.org/ Jan 08 01:37:26 --> libervisco (1000@cmung2855.cmu.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:37:28 Legendre, can they listen to music too ? Jan 08 01:37:41 heheh Jan 08 01:37:59 could like one amish dude play the banjo, while another flicks his lanter to the music ? Jan 08 01:38:00 * libervisco is installing portage for slackware :) Jan 08 01:38:06 tewmten - LOL!! Jan 08 01:38:22 Legendre: HEHE Jan 08 01:38:35 how do i complie a file.c file? gcc -o file.c? Jan 08 01:38:48 gcc -o file.o file.c Jan 08 01:39:04 Zalamander: http://knark.phreak.se/flashback.swf - cool trippy flash cartoon :)) Jan 08 01:39:11 --- libervisco is now known as libersl Jan 08 01:39:14 its only a .c file Jan 08 01:39:26 libervisco: Are you using emerde or Gentoo's own emerge? Jan 08 01:39:28 um, yeah.. Jan 08 01:39:36 ok heh Jan 08 01:39:38 slackd00d - just do as I said. Jan 08 01:39:44 i know,sorry Jan 08 01:39:46 Ill offer $20 to anyone that can get this sis 180 controller and my raid0 array to work under gentoo. Jan 08 01:39:50 --- libersl is now known as liberslack Jan 08 01:40:17 bubba_ when? Jan 08 01:40:19 try #gentoo Jan 08 01:40:26 <-- crackerjack has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 08 01:40:29 --- UnixFoo1 is now known as W|GGL|T Jan 08 01:40:39 Zalamander, anytime. Jan 08 01:40:40 --> sdogi_ (~java@84-50-17-16-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:40:55 anyone used squirrelmail? Jan 08 01:41:03 I'd prefer slack, but if slack wont work, and gentoo does, thats fine. Jan 08 01:41:03 bubba_, Have you checked your MB bios settings yet? Jan 08 01:41:14 eelriverlt, which ones did you want me to check? Jan 08 01:41:37 The IDE configuration ones Jan 08 01:41:59 tewmten http://elftrance.com Jan 08 01:42:04 <-- XGizzmo has quit ("going going gone") Jan 08 01:42:06 If Slackware doesn't work and Gentoo does it's just basically proof you don't know how to rebuild your kernel. Jan 08 01:42:09 bubba here is where i meant to post http://donate.ifrc.org/ Jan 08 01:42:10 eelriverlt, well yes, i have ide, I dont know what you want me to check out in my bios though. Jan 08 01:42:12 <-- r00tsh3ll has quit ("Leaving") Jan 08 01:42:14 bubba_, what i'm saying is not to ask for gentoo-specific info in here... Jan 08 01:42:30 opps i just ran the new exploit they found in the kernel on my laptop...now its frozen. Jan 08 01:42:37 <-- Kurt has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 08 01:42:43 "new" exploit? Jan 08 01:42:49 Something's come out in the last four hours? Jan 08 01:42:50 http://www.rcs.ir/ Jan 08 01:43:14 http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/01/07/2028203.shtml?tid=172&tid=106 Jan 08 01:43:17 W|GGL|T, oh, well, i asked first with slackware, but im also open to gentoo... Jan 08 01:43:25 just came out i guess Jan 08 01:43:29 I've got a local DOS exploit on this box, but I think it's specific to my junk hardware. Jan 08 01:43:35 bubba_, i'm not asking Jan 08 01:44:04 * MAN_Hater thinks legendre need squil Jan 08 01:44:06 ssheesh. Jan 08 01:44:10 <-- kosmonaft has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 08 01:45:04 bubba_, The IDE Port settings, You might need to change them to support legecy operating systems Jan 08 01:45:14 --> tbird (Bot@pcp09788624pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:45:17 W|GGL|T, ok, I will do my best to never mention that other thing. Jan 08 01:45:34 eelriverlt, port setting... ok, ill have a look for that. Jan 08 01:46:16 Zalamander: cool :) Jan 08 01:46:21 bubba_, there's a reason...there's no sense in asking gentoo questions in #slackware. i'm not being an ass but i'm like that with alot of people in here Jan 08 01:46:37 dagmar are you in texas ? (your earlier quote Jan 08 01:46:49 bubba_, Go to the IDE configuration in your bios and write down what they're at now if you need to. Jan 08 01:47:08 --> jota (~jota@201.243.211.168) has joined ##slackware Jan 08 01:47:10 --- ChanServ gives voice to W|GGL|T Jan 08 01:47:18 --- nixor gives voice to phrag Jan 08 01:47:20 haha, terrence mckenna :DD Jan 08 01:47:23 =P Jan 08 01:47:27 * MAN_Hater does what the voices tell me Jan 08 01:47:57 squil?? Jan 08 01:48:14 hi phrag Jan 08 01:48:15 phrag, W|GGL|T, which one of you is nixors lord and master? Jan 08 01:48:16 squil = http://sguil.sourceforge.net/images/0.5/eventqry.png Jan 08 01:48:17 hehe Jan 08 01:48:25 tewmten - yeah, he's an interesting character. Jan 08 01:48:25 phrag is Jan 08 01:48:30 eelriverlt, my bios doesnt anything that says ide configuration, but like other bios's it has an area that list ide devices. Jan 08 01:48:32 hiya W|GGL|T =) Jan 08 01:48:39 although i do have access to nixor :o) Jan 08 01:49:03 thats cuz nixor is phrag's faithfull gurlfriend Jan 08 01:49:18 I have found a setting to enable/disable sata, but I dont know if disabling will help anything. Jan 08 01:49:25 MAN_Hater: tcl is no use to me on a lonely night Jan 08 01:49:39 <-- sdogi has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 08 01:49:40 * MAN_Hater sure that's what they all say Jan 08 01:49:59 grinz @ phrag **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jan 8 01:50:12 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 9 22:07:44 2005 Jan 09 22:07:44 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 09 22:07:44 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support Channel - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | Jan 09 22:07:44 --- Topic for ##slackware set by phrag at Wed Jan 5 13:16:34 2005 Jan 09 22:07:44 -ChanServ- [##slackware] #slackware has moved to ##slackware to fit the freenode channel ownership policies a bit better. If you've been forwarded from #slackware, please "/part #slackware" so your client won't be confused! Jan 09 22:07:44 --- ##slackware :[freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup Jan 09 22:07:54 * XGizzmo unhooks the tap he had on phrags bandwidth Jan 09 22:08:04 :D Jan 09 22:09:39 --> AcidChild (~ash@dsl-80-41-13-16.access.uk.tiscali.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:09:46 --> ph0enix (~phoenix@201-003-140-177.nhoce7005.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:09:52 can some one send me the bittorrent package? Jan 09 22:09:58 or tell me where i can get it from? Jan 09 22:10:01 its on disk 4. Jan 09 22:10:09 dont have that disk. Jan 09 22:10:18 AcidChild: Google for it, not hard to find. Jan 09 22:10:23 bittorrent pkg? Jan 09 22:10:31 i like azureus for bittorrent Jan 09 22:11:06 ximpul: That last one made it unlikely, but this most recent one, (that made it 49) sealed, I think. Jan 09 22:12:05 yeah its done Jan 09 22:12:19 FriedBob-> i almost didnt notice, the gf is whining at me Jan 09 22:12:38 AcidChild, package? dude, go to a slackware mirror and find the /extra directory underneath whichever slackware version you use, it's in there afaik Jan 09 22:12:48 ximpul: I just turned it off. Jan 09 22:12:53 --> Kurt (kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:13:40 AcidChild: Or go to the bittorrent site and download the source and compile. Quick search of google is all it took me to find it, last I looked. Jan 09 22:14:30 yeah, you need xwPython to compile the curses-based one, afaik Jan 09 22:14:35 does anyone know how I can just simply setup an anonymous FTP for my girlfriend to login to from downstairs using proftpd? I have changed the /etc/proftpd.conf to try and reflect what I'm wanting to do and nothing seems to work :( Jan 09 22:15:06 xomp, uh, this is on LAN? IMO, Samba is easier to setup Jan 09 22:15:08 xomp-> tried samba or NFS ? Jan 09 22:15:11 I've removed the user "ftp" from /etc/ftpusers like it suggested Jan 09 22:15:12 xomp: check the proftpd conf file Jan 09 22:15:24 COLTS WIN Jan 09 22:15:29 allow anonymous Jan 09 22:15:52 nologo, I've done that a jillion times lol but it simply will _not_ work for some reason :( Jan 09 22:16:42 --> Innoruuk (1000@d14-69-78-200.try.wideopenwest.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:16:44 Jan 09 22:16:44 RequireValidShell off Jan 09 22:16:44 User ftp Jan 09 22:16:44 Group ftp Jan 09 22:16:44 # We want clients to be able to login with "anonymous" as well as "ftp" Jan 09 22:16:44 <-- nixor has kicked xomp from ##slackware (flood) Jan 09 22:16:53 --> xomp (~rawr@ky-winchester1d-105.rhmdky.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:16:54 xomp, you're sharing files from a linux computer to a windows computer? or what? Jan 09 22:16:55 --> nordle (~nordle@82.153.70.59) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:16:59 bah sorry guys :\ Jan 09 22:17:13 NeoLaptop, yes, but I don't have samba installed Jan 09 22:17:25 xomp: Was gonna suggest samba, lot easier IMO Jan 09 22:17:31 From both ends. Jan 09 22:17:34 * geeshock is back (gone 01:10:53) Jan 09 22:17:45 <-- HeatHawk has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 09 22:18:30 --> denisbr (~denisbr@200-180-093-010.jgsce201.dial.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:18:50 xomp, grab the cd and install it then :D Jan 09 22:18:56 Anyways, time for work Jan 09 22:18:58 <-- denisbr (~denisbr@200-180-093-010.jgsce201.dial.brasiltelecom.net.br) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:19:02 BBL. Much, much later. Jan 09 22:19:04 <-- FriedBob has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 09 22:19:26 --> denisbr (~denisbr@200-180-093-010.jgsce201.dial.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:19:41 <-- denisbr (~denisbr@200-180-093-010.jgsce201.dial.brasiltelecom.net.br) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:20:58 when booting from the slack install cd, what is the /dev/fd2 drive listed under mount ? Jan 09 22:21:18 OutpourDCC, do "mount" and find out Jan 09 22:21:31 i did Jan 09 22:21:44 ./dev/fd2 on / type ext2 (rw) Jan 09 22:21:53 i think is the floppy Jan 09 22:21:57 it is Jan 09 22:22:07 ok then why isn't the harddrive showing up? Jan 09 22:22:08 anyone know what ports i need open for bittorrent? Jan 09 22:22:36 OutpourDCC, it isn't supposed to Jan 09 22:22:37 it's on the bitorrent site Jan 09 22:22:44 AcidChild, www.bittorrent.com? Jan 09 22:22:54 ah ! :D Jan 09 22:23:11 Polleke: how then do i know what /dev/xxx to use so i can format the drive so i can install slack? Jan 09 22:23:11 hard drives, ide anyways, are hda, hdb, hdc, etc ide devices Jan 09 22:23:14 OutpourDCC, you're installing. You want to make partitions and format them. You don't do that on a mounted system Jan 09 22:23:33 OutpourDCC, run "cfdisk" Jan 09 22:23:39 OutpourDCC, those are selected and mounted during the install process Jan 09 22:23:45 ah ok, how can i get a list of drives then? Jan 09 22:23:53 cfdisk Jan 09 22:23:54 <-- xomp (~rawr@ky-winchester1d-105.rhmdky.adelphia.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:24:05 ah there we go thanks. i was using just fdisk Jan 09 22:24:13 works too Jan 09 22:24:17 fdisk -l works Jan 09 22:25:41 is it better to patition some swap space or use a paging file Jan 09 22:25:43 ? Jan 09 22:26:11 swap space Jan 09 22:26:11 partition unless you're extrememly tight on space Jan 09 22:26:33 swap space != paging file Jan 09 22:26:41 er, swap > paging Jan 09 22:26:50 what is a paging file, I know theres a pagefile in Win32, but not on linux?? Jan 09 22:26:55 i only have a 6.4gb drive on this box Jan 09 22:27:03 that's plenty. Jan 09 22:27:33 --> inflex (~PLD@dsl-171.156.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:27:37 even if you installed everything, (not recommended) you'd only use 2 gigs or so. Jan 09 22:28:01 alright Jan 09 22:28:52 a page file on linux is a file wiped to zeros and formatted (virtually) ext2 Jan 09 22:29:21 <-- gpsz|nikK has quit ("http://stuntlaban.no-ip.org") Jan 09 22:29:47 i know because i used to (on my machine that has 1.5gb ram) mount the virtual drives (ram drives) and map them to use them as swap, sort of trick the system into using ram drives as swap Jan 09 22:29:51 however, i don't recommend doing that Jan 09 22:30:10 1.5gb of ram Jan 09 22:30:19 glaglaglaglagla Jan 09 22:30:26 what do you use all that for?! :) Jan 09 22:30:54 chris-^, running linux, what do you think? :D Jan 09 22:30:57 lol Jan 09 22:31:05 B=====================================================D Jan 09 22:31:13 i would like, serious fellatio for 3gb of ram Jan 09 22:31:17 jpeg, please keep your things to yourself Jan 09 22:31:22 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to phrag Jan 09 22:31:23 <-- sYk0 (~zachary@dialup-4.229.189.248.Dial1.Detroit1.Level3.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:31:24 --- phrag sets mode +q ##slackware jpeg!*@* Jan 09 22:31:25 --- phrag removes channel operator status from phrag Jan 09 22:31:34 lol Jan 09 22:31:43 phrag, how the heck do you do it that fast? do you use a script? Jan 09 22:31:49 hi phrag, I just wanted to apologize for earlier Jan 09 22:31:51 nope, just alias Jan 09 22:31:56 ah Jan 09 22:32:05 Squall`: nah, it's a telepathic irc client Jan 09 22:32:09 lol Jan 09 22:32:28 what mode is +q? Jan 09 22:32:29 yeah, phrag is directly connected over ethernet directly to his brain Jan 09 22:32:36 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@adsl-66-143-142-36.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net Jan 09 22:32:37 <-- nixor has kicked jpeg from ##slackware (banned: jpeg - ascii troll) Jan 09 22:32:41 OutpourDCC: muted, can't talk in channel Jan 09 22:33:01 ah Jan 09 22:33:06 phrag: you been getting notices from my bot? Jan 09 22:33:10 StevenR: no Jan 09 22:33:13 good Jan 09 22:33:18 --> d4rkw0lf (~bi0h4z4rd@201.3.158.242) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:33:22 phrag, hey can i talk 2 U in /msg ? Jan 09 22:33:30 phrag: means it's noticing me, not channel Jan 09 22:33:33 <-- light_ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 09 22:33:43 NeoLaptop: yes Jan 09 22:34:34 <-- d4rkw0lf has quit (Client Quit) Jan 09 22:34:39 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to phrag Jan 09 22:34:39 --- phrag sets mode -q ##slackware jpeg!*@* Jan 09 22:34:41 --- phrag removes channel operator status from phrag Jan 09 22:35:03 eermm.. Jan 09 22:35:08 i have install bittorrent Jan 09 22:35:18 and downlladed the .torrent files. Jan 09 22:35:25 what do i use to download it? Jan 09 22:35:32 there are loads of files. Jan 09 22:35:37 is there any particular reason the slack setup utility won't detect my cdromdrive? Jan 09 22:35:37 and the docs on the site are crap Jan 09 22:35:52 what kinda of CDROM? Jan 09 22:36:04 IDE Jan 09 22:36:09 DVD? Jan 09 22:36:13 no Jan 09 22:36:14 or just plain CDROM? Jan 09 22:36:21 ah. Jan 09 22:36:25 OutpourDCC-> what kernel ? Jan 09 22:36:49 erm, whatever is the default on the slack 10 distribution Jan 09 22:36:56 .. images. Jan 09 22:36:57 well if he is installing it what kernel do u think ximpul ? Jan 09 22:36:57 2.4.26 Jan 09 22:36:58 2.4. Jan 09 22:37:04 bare.i is the "default" Jan 09 22:37:06 OutpourDCC, I've had it once, and weird ennough it worked after a reboot Jan 09 22:37:07 <-- LinuxGold (~scottham@pcp016078pcs.harngt01.de.comcast.net) has left ##slackware Jan 09 22:37:16 bareacpi.i works good for an ide system that uses ACPI Jan 09 22:37:21 --> freychef (~jf@Ottawa-HSE-ppp4031985.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:37:21 AcidChild-> ahh i was distracted by vida nvm Jan 09 22:37:23 i booted from the cd drive Jan 09 22:37:25 lowmem.i is more for systems with like 32mb or less ram Jan 09 22:37:30 i dont know why the kernel won't detect it Jan 09 22:37:30 rofl. Jan 09 22:37:31 --> dodo_ (~dodo@ANice-205-1-38-192.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:37:42 are you passing ide-scsi to the kernel at boot? Jan 09 22:37:43 most systems pentium 2 and later can use bareacpi.i or bare.i Jan 09 22:37:44 does anyone know where the package docs arE? Jan 09 22:37:50 <-- madsj has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 09 22:37:52 <-- Polleke has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:38:01 ximpul just using default bare.i no parems Jan 09 22:38:11 --> biviss (~biviss@81-208-36-87.fastres.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:38:15 hi all Jan 09 22:38:19 hey Jan 09 22:38:21 AcidChild, as in what? to get more info on a module? probably in /usr/src/linux/Documentation, /usr/doc, or you could run "modinfo ide-scsi" or whatever the module is Jan 09 22:38:30 OutpourDCC is it in /etc/fstab ? Jan 09 22:38:37 NeoLaptop, wrong person :P Jan 09 22:38:51 <-- meta-ridley (~craig@hlfxns01bbg-142068111203.ns.aliant.net) has left ##slackware Jan 09 22:38:52 phrag: u got a notice from my bot in last 10secs or so? Jan 09 22:38:53 just need to find the READ me for bittorrnet Jan 09 22:38:56 --> meta-ridley (~craig@hlfxns01bbg-142068111203.ns.aliant.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:39:16 <-- backblue has quit ("leaving") Jan 09 22:39:24 oneforall nope only floppt and proc in fstab Jan 09 22:39:53 OutpourDCC look in dmesg | grep cdrom Jan 09 22:40:30 <-- meta-ridley (~craig@hlfxns01bbg-142068111203.ns.aliant.net) has left ##slackware Jan 09 22:40:42 <-- avoca has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:40:49 is there someone who can tell me how to set up the automount of cdrom? Jan 09 22:41:15 it says it attached the drive as hdc Jan 09 22:41:15 --> meta-ridley (~craig@hlfxns01bbg-142068111203.ns.aliant.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:41:20 (well the driver at least) Jan 09 22:41:30 /dev/cdrecorder /media/cdrecorder subfs fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0 Jan 09 22:41:38 ls -l /dev/cdrom Jan 09 22:41:39 but when i select hdc in the setup util, it gives an error Jan 09 22:41:39 that line in fstab biviss Jan 09 22:41:50 or so how. Jan 09 22:41:51 --> Analyzer (~Analyzer@ts3-a156.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:42:15 <-- Frost^ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:42:29 /dev/ /mnt/ subfs fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0 Jan 09 22:42:50 thx Jan 09 22:43:30 OutpourDCC stick in a data cd and do mount -t iso9660 /dev/jdc /mnt/cdrom Jan 09 22:43:41 j/h Jan 09 22:44:00 j/h? Jan 09 22:44:11 oh Jan 09 22:44:11 yeah Jan 09 22:44:13 gotcha Jan 09 22:45:55 mount: mount point /mnt/cdrom does not exist Jan 09 22:46:17 subfs ? Jan 09 22:46:19 what's that thing ? Jan 09 22:46:40 a stackable fs ? Jan 09 22:47:20 hmm thatys should have been made that dir Jan 09 22:47:26 thatys/that Jan 09 22:48:29 ooh Jan 09 22:48:36 i did dmesg | grep hdc Jan 09 22:48:42 <-- nordle has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:48:51 and Jan 09 22:48:52 i did dmesg | grep hdc | more rather Jan 09 22:49:00 lots of errors Jan 09 22:49:11 <-- freychef has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:49:21 hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Jan 09 22:49:27 hdc: command error: status=0x50 Jan 09 22:49:40 --> dragonagenta (~dragonage@evrtwa1-ar9-4-62-081-058.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:49:41 OutpourDCC try mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/ Jan 09 22:49:49 end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 16 Jan 09 22:49:51 hi all Jan 09 22:49:52 and it repeats Jan 09 22:50:07 with different sectors Jan 09 22:50:16 has anyone dealt with a wireless network card, the d-link g510? Jan 09 22:50:52 oneforall : mount: Not a directory Jan 09 22:51:32 ls -l /mnt Jan 09 22:51:53 total 0 Jan 09 22:52:54 hmm nothing in there no /mnt/floppy even Jan 09 22:53:24 you nah ls -l /floppy or ls -l /cdrom Jan 09 22:53:32 nah/have Jan 09 22:54:16 you nah :) Jan 09 22:54:25 ls -l /cdrom Jan 09 22:54:30 --> Drago5 (drago5@DSL217-132-175-140.bb.netvision.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:54:33 returns: Jan 09 22:54:56 rw-string 1 root root timestamp /cdrom -> /var/log/mount Jan 09 22:55:44 <-- Drago5 (drago5@DSL217-132-175-140.bb.netvision.net.il) has left ##slackware ("Client exiting") Jan 09 22:57:36 --> OtavioCarvalho (OtavioC@200.175.117.58.dialup.gvt.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 22:57:53 <-- ximpul has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 22:57:59 OutpourDCC, what the heck are you doing? Jan 09 22:58:04 havintg some issues? Jan 09 22:58:16 trying to install slack Jan 09 22:58:29 sounds like your cd isn't so good. did you check md5 on the ISO before burning? where'd you get the cd? do you know if your cdrom has been giving you trouble in the past? Jan 09 22:58:30 doesn't look to me like it fully installed Jan 09 22:58:32 but the setup util will not recoginize the drive when it trys to select the source Jan 09 22:58:54 i've used the cd before without issue Jan 09 22:59:05 i think it's the cd drive Jan 09 22:59:35 like isaid dmesg | grep hdc | more gives lots of errors Jan 09 22:59:39 so you never competed the install right ? Jan 09 22:59:44 no Jan 09 22:59:51 OutpourDCC, uh, hmmm, is the cd drive a cd-r/rw or cdrom drive/ Jan 09 22:59:57 just cdrom Jan 09 23:00:04 plain cdrom Jan 09 23:00:05 <-- dm1tri has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 09 23:00:07 OutpourDCC, and what speed did you burn the cd ? Jan 09 23:00:08 ide Jan 09 23:00:12 oh wait Jan 09 23:00:35 hdc: SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC140, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM Drive Jan 09 23:00:53 but the drive itself doesn't mention it's a dvd drive Jan 09 23:01:04 OutpourDCC, that has little to do with it Jan 09 23:01:17 --> samkin (sam@adsl-6-34-48.tys.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:01:37 OutpourDCC, try burning the cd again with a new cd-r, this time burn at the slowest possible speed. some cdrom drives have issues with cd-r's based on what speed they were burnt at Jan 09 23:01:37 no thats just saying its a driver for cd/(or)dvd Jan 09 23:02:20 alright Jan 09 23:02:37 NeoLaptop well notice one thing in /mnt he has no /mnt/floppy or /mnt/cdrom Jan 09 23:02:59 DriveREady SeekComplete Error Jan 09 23:02:59 ls Jan 09 23:03:00 oneforall, during install? could be due to a corrupted cd (i.e. the cdrom is having issues reading it) Jan 09 23:03:00 which I'mm sure slack 10 it went for /floppy /cdrom to those Jan 09 23:03:02 oops Jan 09 23:03:05 know what that means? Jan 09 23:03:19 i know it sounds weird, but i've had issues with that before in the past, so i'm saying it _could_ be that, but i'm not sure. Jan 09 23:03:36 yeah having trouble reading the cd Jan 09 23:03:47 --> bleh__ (~bleh@212.38.149.71) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:03:51 ah ok Jan 09 23:04:01 let me burn then Jan 09 23:04:17 it's worth a try, if you have a bunch of cd-r's Jan 09 23:04:27 OutpourDCC I notice you said at install you picked the /hdc for the source and it borked on you so I'd say you never got a complete install Jan 09 23:04:40 <-- OtavioCarvalho has quit (Client Quit) Jan 09 23:04:43 i've had issues with certain other distributions' ISOs in the past, had to purchase the cds from a cheap cd burning place online (cheapbytes) Jan 09 23:05:05 oneforall no.. ive never installed at all Jan 09 23:05:09 i am trying to install now Jan 09 23:05:26 and in the install when i select /dev/hdc it gives me an error and doesnt let me install Jan 09 23:05:38 <-- samkin (sam@adsl-6-34-48.tys.bellsouth.net) has left ##slackware Jan 09 23:05:44 OutpourDCC ah ok then if you got a boot off the cdrom and got that far its a read issue then Jan 09 23:05:52 anyone in here use a cd-rw/dvd combo drive? Jan 09 23:06:08 OutpourDCC thats why there is no /mnt/cdrom yet :) Jan 09 23:07:37 yeah it could be the cd also. technically, you could swap the hard drive over to another machine, install slack onto it, then swap the hard drive back (or whatever you want to do) Jan 09 23:08:14 i' Jan 09 23:08:19 i'll just burn another cd Jan 09 23:09:09 --> Drago5 (drago5@DSL217-132-175-140.bb.netvision.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:09:20 <-- Drago5 (drago5@DSL217-132-175-140.bb.netvision.net.il) has left ##slackware ("Client exiting") Jan 09 23:10:09 bah gotta reboot brb Jan 09 23:10:25 OutpourDCC, burn at the slowest speed possible Jan 09 23:11:18 <-- zomtec has quit ("Naspa- wir können kein Geld, wir können nur billig!") Jan 09 23:11:30 <-- defile has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 23:12:45 --> idaho45 (~john@201.243.31.212) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:14:18 bleh__, i am Jan 09 23:14:32 cdrw/dvdrw drive use Jan 09 23:15:53 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:15:57 <-- starfighter1 has quit (Client Quit) Jan 09 23:16:38 --> defile (~defile@unicron.ecr.navy.mil) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:16:47 --> absbrain (~nedim@212.39.110.236) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:17:07 Hey guys Jan 09 23:17:32 <-- OutpourDCC has quit ("reboot") Jan 09 23:19:05 Jan 09 23:19:08 <-- bubba_ (~bubba@c-67-171-159-156.client.comcast.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 09 23:19:21 NeoLaptop, I hit a cat in my car Jan 09 23:19:30 --> bearry (~bhando@S0106004005c5f406.wp.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:19:36 kitty killer! Jan 09 23:19:41 Straterra, you kept driving, right? :D Jan 09 23:19:47 NeoLaptop, of course Jan 09 23:19:48 4 points!! :D Jan 09 23:19:56 <-- bearry (~bhando@S0106004005c5f406.wp.shawcable.net) has left ##slackware Jan 09 23:20:03 But..I got yelled at for my step dad for speeding when I hit it Jan 09 23:20:04 anyone know how to get an img out of firefox memory cache? Jan 09 23:20:08 I see the entry Jan 09 23:20:13 He wasn't even with me, and I wasn't speeding Jan 09 23:20:15 --> Kurt2 (kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:20:20 once i was in thick chattanooga traffic, dog ran across the road, couldn't go anywhere. some idiot in a van next to me yelled at me and stuff lol, i was like "whatever" Jan 09 23:20:31 <-- bleh__ has quit () Jan 09 23:20:33 I hit a cat one time and a lady came running out of here house demanding I pay for it. Jan 09 23:20:52 eelriverlt, i'd be like "do you have a receipt?" "no" "ok, stfu then" Jan 09 23:21:14 Finally the police came, she told them what she told me and they arrested her Jan 09 23:21:22 Seriously? Jan 09 23:21:23 wtf why? Jan 09 23:21:24 What for? Jan 09 23:21:27 I asked them what for Jan 09 23:22:00 ... and ? Jan 09 23:22:01 They said it's against the law to sell pussy Jan 09 23:22:06 lol Jan 09 23:22:09 eelriverlt, HAR HAR HAR Jan 09 23:22:14 That was a terrible joke Jan 09 23:22:20 yepperz Jan 09 23:22:22 <-- absbrain has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 23:22:29 =) Jan 09 23:24:00 <-- dodo_ (~dodo@ANice-205-1-38-192.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) has left ##slackware Jan 09 23:24:07 http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4084 Jan 09 23:24:35 --> prowlah (prowlah@cpe-66-75-115-226.socal.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:25:08 wtf is a memory cache anyway Jan 09 23:25:24 raela : memory cache? it caches memory Jan 09 23:25:34 --> SiegeX (1000@adsl-63-196-7-236.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:25:36 ananke: then why does it have image files in it Jan 09 23:25:44 --> IronBob (~ironbob@adsl-208-191-166-220.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:25:55 raela : elaborate Jan 09 23:26:03 raela, sounds like browser cache or something Jan 09 23:26:24 --> Outpour (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:26:41 Key: file:///home/heather/school/graduation_project/img00029.jpg | Data size: 921600 Bytes | Fetch count: 7 | Last Modified: Sun Jan 9 15:16:57 2005 | Expires: No expiration time Jan 09 23:26:46 on firefox.. I want that file Jan 09 23:27:05 --> SigSegV (~Miranda@real.dq.fct.unl.pt) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:27:19 raela, want it? why not download it from the web? the link is right there Jan 09 23:27:29 heh.. Jan 09 23:27:30 file:// Jan 09 23:27:35 NeoLaptop: because I accidently copied over the file Jan 09 23:27:40 ok burning now heh Jan 09 23:27:47 NeoLaptop: but it's in my cache.. so why can't I freaking see it Jan 09 23:27:58 <-- SigSegV (~Miranda@real.dq.fct.unl.pt) has left ##slackware Jan 09 23:28:01 raela, isn't browser cache on disk? Jan 09 23:28:28 NeoLaptop: this is memory cache device Jan 09 23:28:30 <-- Squall` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 23:28:39 which I have NO clue what that means Jan 09 23:28:48 which is what I'm asking.. where do I get the picture! Jan 09 23:29:12 <-- Straterra has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 09 23:29:18 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:29:49 a freaking cache file shouldn't be this hard, argh Jan 09 23:29:51 raela, i dunno either, ask in #mozilla or on the web then Jan 09 23:30:07 NeoLaptop: I did, they told me to read a page that said nothing Jan 09 23:30:14 NeoLaptop: except I asked in #firefox Jan 09 23:30:58 well sorrry bro, wish i could help you Jan 09 23:32:14 not a guy.. Jan 09 23:32:47 there is no garuntee the file is cached any longer Jan 09 23:33:05 s/guy/something Jan 09 23:33:08 did redhat make ext3? Jan 09 23:33:17 IronBob, google for ext3's history Jan 09 23:33:22 i would assume cached files are stored in ~/.mozilla or firefox or soemthing along those lines Jan 09 23:33:33 it was originally an extension of ext2, which is why you can mount ext3 as ext2 and visa versa Jan 09 23:34:09 and since redhat isn't the longest lived linux distribution, i have difficulty believing they devised a file system Jan 09 23:34:17 I should've made a freaking copy of the files Jan 09 23:34:32 and stupid firefox just *has* to taunt me Jan 09 23:34:33 you should alias rm so that it comfirms Jan 09 23:35:13 oh, I didn't rm Jan 09 23:35:15 I mv'd Jan 09 23:35:16 --> Krapo (~krapo@80.125.230.101) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:35:21 IronBob, do "modinfo ext3" as root Jan 09 23:35:23 hello all Jan 09 23:35:23 ok where did you move it to? Jan 09 23:35:25 ext3 was developed by Steven Tweedie ----> http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html Jan 09 23:35:49 ohh moved a new one to that one Jan 09 23:35:50 nm Jan 09 23:35:57 see, I moved it to a dir (with a bunch of other pics), named it something, then accidently named another file to that one Jan 09 23:36:05 you can alias mv to not overwrite existing files also Jan 09 23:36:07 but I viewed all files with firefox Jan 09 23:36:26 i've heard that a module could help me it's PCItoISA someon can help me and say to me where i can configure it in the kernel ...? Jan 09 23:36:50 NeoLaptop: can't find module ext3 Jan 09 23:36:58 IronBob, oh well Jan 09 23:37:19 mv -i Jan 09 23:38:04 -i = prompt for confirmation when destination exists Jan 09 23:38:24 doesn't help me now *grumbles* Jan 09 23:38:37 I still don't see the point of memory cache Jan 09 23:38:53 no one for my PCItoISA? Jan 09 23:38:55 everything caches something to memory anyways ... Jan 09 23:39:05 --> Redb3ard (~oylerj@c-24-125-12-101.va.client2.attbi.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:39:27 this busybox thing.. is it only used on the boot cd? seems like some utils have symlinks to it Jan 09 23:39:32 <-- Analyzer has quit ("Quit") Jan 09 23:40:01 <-- Trevor1 has quit ("leaving") Jan 09 23:40:12 <-- _SiegeX has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 09 23:43:02 bah Jan 09 23:43:22 hm.. I wonder if it's inappropriate that my pic of a foal has his male part showing Jan 09 23:43:33 <-- Kurt has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 09 23:43:35 <-- Krapo (~krapo@80.125.230.101) has left ##slackware Jan 09 23:44:03 lol Jan 09 23:44:31 outpour, busybox is a combined binary that replaces sh, init, and other common utils Jan 09 23:44:34 smaller Jan 09 23:46:15 --> GFaulT (~GFaulT@200222222146.user.veloxzone.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 09 23:47:00 does this pic look like it's better off not going on a boad? (warning.. has horse organs) http://www.geocities.com/crystalsuicune2/leroy.jpg Jan 09 23:48:21 <-- signal has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 09 23:48:34 for future reference: if you want to keep your system responsive, do not compile kdemultimedia at same time as xmms Jan 09 23:49:16 <-- dragonagenta has quit ("Leaving") Jan 09 23:49:24 fred87: how much work you have left there ? Jan 09 23:49:47 we2by you here? Jan 09 23:50:12 mako-sama, a lot of n/, ap/, and xap Jan 09 23:50:21 and quite a lot of 10second each noarch packages Jan 09 23:50:58 haha. Jan 09 23:51:17 you have to babysit it Jan 09 23:52:58 poohie, yes, I am Jan 09 23:54:26 we2by you still alive? ;) Did you watch the movie? I have another for you.. you want the torrent? Jan 09 23:54:35 <-- ph0enix has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 09 23:54:37 yea, I did watch the movie Jan 09 23:54:41 sure Jan 09 23:55:09 crackerjack, what is the topic of it? Jan 09 23:55:13 <-- solsTiCe has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 09 23:56:21 It's about quauntum meachanics, teleportation and the theory of time traveling. Including intervieuws at CERN.. Give me a moment.. I'll make a torrent.. Jan 09 23:57:02 cool Jan 09 23:57:10 we2by *quantum Jan 09 23:57:22 making a torrent without having other people downloading the same file, might as well just use ftp/http Jan 09 23:58:00 i can give it to a friend Jan 09 23:58:09 and he will download from him Jan 09 23:58:45 NeoLaptop I know.. I usually make a torrent. pass it to friends and Thanatermesis msg to physics on 10 servers.. if my server doesn;t go down i'm at top speed.. ahum.. Jan 09 23:58:48 the problem is, that not much ppl interested in watching these movies Jan 09 23:58:50 yeah, but torrents use the fact that many people are downloading to speed up the download, which is why i'm saying that if you're the only two using it ... Jan 09 23:59:06 crackerjack, oh ok COLLEGE bandwidth :D Jan 09 23:59:15 ;) Jan 10 00:00:30 --> Trevor1 (~03008d9a0@d205-250-237-240.bchsia.telus.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 00:00:41 who is poohie >? Jan 10 00:00:58 I see, it is crackerjack Jan 10 00:01:17 poohie is an alias I use for ops irc channels. Jan 10 00:01:33 we2by which channel you been.? Jan 10 00:01:45 on freenode? Jan 10 00:01:51 o.a Jan 10 00:02:31 we2by primarely for botting channels. Jan 10 00:02:32 feenode: #slackware,mandrake,#debian,#fedora,#mysql,#apache,#postfix,#courier,#proftpd,#qmail,#sendmail Jan 10 00:02:51 and #php also Jan 10 00:03:02 that is it Jan 10 00:03:19 I used to hang on small network I knows. but not any more Jan 10 00:03:41 we2by that's it? how do you mean? Jan 10 00:03:55 and I am on OFTC #vserver too Jan 10 00:04:00 NeoLaptop Im still having the same problem with the cd drive Jan 10 00:04:11 --> TheBeast (~betzivu@dsl-66-225-165-22.vianet.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 00:04:17 crackerjack, got the torrent? Jan 10 00:04:43 no.. I need to finish 5 others first.. hehe Jan 10 00:04:46 NeoLaptop I think i'm just gonna move the hardrive and install it on another box Jan 10 00:04:58 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-216-77-193-206.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 00:05:18 we2by but it's it 6.8 GB.. you sure? Jan 10 00:05:22 guys, I'm playing with a VIA USB 2.0 hub. from what I know, the "ehci-hcd" module needs to be load in order to get the hub working. my problem is that my mouse which is connected to this hub, is not working. I'm sure that I have to load another module, but I dunno which of them Jan 10 00:05:27 any clue ? Jan 10 00:05:28 crackerjack, yep Jan 10 00:05:48 I got a 24oGB hd Jan 10 00:05:51 right now I have ehci-hcd loaded, it detected my VIA USB 2.0 hub without any kind of problems Jan 10 00:06:27 TheBeast does it come up with lsusb or via some log? Do you have any trace of the device? Jan 10 00:06:43 we2by ok.. Jan 10 00:06:56 crackerjack: mmm, it comes up once the ehci-uhcd module is loaded :) Jan 10 00:07:23 I've tryed to load "hid" to, but it still doesn;t work Jan 10 00:07:44 Outpour, do that then Jan 10 00:08:03 <-- Squall` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 00:08:14 TheBeast check lsb Jan 10 00:08:25 TheBeast (lsusb Jan 10 00:08:41 anyone know what the nominal independence for headphone jacks usually is? heh. =) Jan 10 00:08:53 noting Jan 10 00:08:57 *nothing Jan 10 00:10:00 nothing? ok. plug in your device and check messages. Do you have the right modules enabled? Does other USB devices work? What kernel? Jan 10 00:10:24 2.4.28 Jan 10 00:10:42 I don't want to run hotplug, that's why I want to specify the modules in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules Jan 10 00:10:55 so, right now I'm playing with that script =) Jan 10 00:11:16 TheBeast, when you plugged in the usb device, did you check /var/log/syslog to see where usb assigned the device? Jan 10 00:11:23 and did you check linux compatibility on the device Jan 10 00:11:30 NeoLaptop: didn't Jan 10 00:11:34 there is compatibility Jan 10 00:11:35 right.. Jan 10 00:11:42 it works fine with the USB 1.1 driver Jan 10 00:11:45 uhci-hcd Jan 10 00:12:01 what chipset you say? Jan 10 00:12:02 but I want it to work with ehci-hcd =P Jan 10 00:12:26 TheBeast, well hotplug usually loads ehci-hcd only if the device claims 2.0 abilities, iirc Jan 10 00:12:34 VIA VT 6202 Jan 10 00:12:50 <-- Kurt2 has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 00:12:58 NeoLaptop: perhaps my mouse isn't working with "USB 2.0" ? Jan 10 00:13:16 it's a fancy logitech weel mouse Jan 10 00:13:28 that's also possible Jan 10 00:13:35 mmm, I'll use uhci-hcd Jan 10 00:13:41 but check tail -n 3 /var/log/syslog Jan 10 00:13:58 TheBeast .. no.. that can't be it.. you really should gigure out the correct protocol. and be sure you load the correct module which fits your chipset. Jan 10 00:14:07 TheBeast, actually, /var/log/messages Jan 10 00:14:09 nothing about my usb devince Jan 10 00:14:24 TheBeast other usb devoce working? Jan 10 00:14:26 crackerjack: there is no module for the via chipset Jan 10 00:14:38 those ehci-hcd and uhci-hcd make it working Jan 10 00:14:42 <-- GFaulT (~GFaulT@200222222146.user.veloxzone.com.br) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 10 00:15:13 mm, forget about USB 2.0 Jan 10 00:15:21 TheBeast, did you check /var/log/messages ? Jan 10 00:15:23 I'll use the usb 1.1 driver, it's almost the same thing Jan 10 00:15:36 NeoLaptop: that's what i'm doing right now Jan 10 00:15:37 wait Jan 10 00:15:41 TheBeast No, it's not almost the same thing.. Jan 10 00:16:17 we2by where did you come across poohie? Jan 10 00:16:30 in this channel Jan 10 00:16:31 messages detects successfuly my USB 2.0 hub, it says that Jan 10 00:16:38 poohie we2by you here? Jan 10 00:16:39 it just doesn't detect my mouse Jan 10 00:16:43 the hub is working, right now Jan 10 00:16:47 we2by did you check everyone's name?? hehe Jan 10 00:17:06 we2by ohgw ahh.. hehe. Jan 10 00:17:22 lol. no Jan 10 00:17:30 there are 199 nicks lol Jan 10 00:17:30 we2by you are right... Jan 10 00:17:35 we2by ;0 Jan 10 00:17:47 how do i unload a module ? Jan 10 00:17:52 simply rmmod ? Jan 10 00:17:58 we2by lot of bitchx clients.. It's a bit of a mess sometimes Jan 10 00:18:05 * NeoLaptop sings "199 nicks in the channel, 199 nicks ... kick one out, ban one now, 198 nicks in the channel ..." :D Jan 10 00:18:30 TheBeast modprobe -r (if it's supported by kernel) Jan 10 00:18:38 NeoLaptop ;) Jan 10 00:19:00 bitchx ... the irc client for control freaks / wanna-be-1337 people Jan 10 00:19:08 if I load the usci-hcd it works, damn it Jan 10 00:19:33 but, what are the other modules that I need to laod for my mouse ? I mean, i have loaded "uhci-hcd" and next ? Jan 10 00:20:12 NeoLaptop wanna-be-1337? Never heard of that.., bit i'am a control freak.. I admit. :) Jan 10 00:20:32 --> ndc (~ndc@ip68-4-35-68.pv.oc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 00:20:48 NeoLaptop besides this way it's easier to use screen. Jan 10 00:21:09 hello...can I ask the experts a question? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jan 10 00:21:20 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 10 14:49:47 2005 Jan 10 14:49:47 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 10 14:49:47 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support Channel - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | Anyone hearing from Sandman1, please /msg unixfool | Jan 10 14:49:47 --- Topic for ##slackware set by unixfool at Mon Jan 10 03:40:01 2005 Jan 10 14:49:47 -ChanServ- [##slackware] #slackware has moved to ##slackware to fit the freenode channel ownership policies a bit better. If you've been forwarded from #slackware, please "/part #slackware" so your client won't be confused! Jan 10 14:50:09 <-- Analyzer has quit ("Quit") Jan 10 14:53:06 --> StevenR (~foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 14:54:09 waves to StevenR Jan 10 14:54:31 can someone with real player tell me if this is working for them please ? http://www.ktru.org/kreal.smil Jan 10 14:54:48 * MAN_Hater cusses plugins Jan 10 14:56:21 ok I got it - thanx tho Jan 10 14:59:33 <-- paje has quit () Jan 10 15:00:35 ananke: morning Jan 10 15:01:19 morning Jan 10 15:01:47 damn monday. i actually got called and woken up at 8:12am today. i hate when that happens Jan 10 15:02:38 heh Jan 10 15:02:50 I just had to fix a server with a bios update... go figure Jan 10 15:02:54 I love it when it's that simple though Jan 10 15:03:38 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:04:24 Dominian, I don't. I can't do bios upgrades from 180 miles away :-P Jan 10 15:04:40 fuzzbawl: sure you can... get someone onsite to lend a hand ;) Jan 10 15:05:13 * StevenR yos to MAN_Hater Jan 10 15:05:57 * R3nn bows at FriedBob ;) Jan 10 15:06:14 --> blackhat-- (1000@217.219.181.69) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:06:40 R3nn: G'morning Jan 10 15:06:45 ananke: You around/awake? Jan 10 15:06:47 afternoon :) Jan 10 15:06:56 0800 hrs here Jan 10 15:07:05 heheh, 15:07 already Jan 10 15:07:46 thank you stevenr Jan 10 15:08:24 If I need to pass a kernel option with lilo, how can I do that? I tried adding it a few places, but it says ... Nevermind, I just remembered that I should have been using an append=. Silly me. Jan 10 15:08:44 --> Tom^ (~thomas@0x503fe33d.odnxx1.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:08:47 a selfanswering question, cool ;) Jan 10 15:08:55 typical monday? Jan 10 15:09:17 Work was crazy last night, didn't get home till almost midnight Jan 10 15:09:34 ouch Jan 10 15:09:45 Staid up until about 0300 installing some SELinux packages Jan 10 15:09:59 some commitment :) Jan 10 15:10:13 Then, when I wanted to be up right around now, I woke up at like 0700 Jan 10 15:10:47 I should still be in bed, esp since I've got big plans for the day. Namely, spending it with my GF> Jan 10 15:10:57 hehehe Jan 10 15:11:12 I haven't seen her in over a week. Jan 10 15:11:15 spending it in bed too, eh? ;) Jan 10 15:11:44 Perhaps the morning, but we have some errands to run. Will have to see how things go. Jan 10 15:11:50 <-- poohie has quit ("patching my head") Jan 10 15:11:51 lol Jan 10 15:12:02 <-- crackerjack has quit ("patching my head") Jan 10 15:13:30 ahw damnit, had to call a client about some oracle stuff, turns out he went home ill. I hate postponing important stuff Jan 10 15:13:43 * R3nn ponders on Jan 10 15:14:00 Heh Jan 10 15:14:01 --> willwork4foo (~xxxx@fluorine.eu.sun.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:14:09 Hey foo Jan 10 15:14:33 --> deufo (~deufo@n219077137065.netvigator.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:14:41 R3nn: call the client at home and bitch them out for being sick! Jan 10 15:14:47 how to i load a module from a location i specify? Jan 10 15:14:52 --> turbanoo (~user@201.1.144.126) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:15:20 deufo : man insmod Jan 10 15:15:32 ananke: Heh, was gonna say man modprobe. ;) Jan 10 15:16:04 modprobe doesn't load from a specified location as nicely as insmod. however, yes, usually i do recommend using modprobe Jan 10 15:16:24 * MAN_Hater meditation is boring Jan 10 15:16:50 ananke: I installed those packages last night. Was relatively painfree other than the normal trepidation from replacing glibc et al, and reading the install.txt I grabbed off the one site. Jan 10 15:17:09 ananke: Didn't know that, but then again, never tried loading from anywhere other than the "defaults" Jan 10 15:17:30 neat. i'm not sure how much i'll play with them yet. Jan 10 15:17:37 --> Ahil (~Ahil@213.240.224.47) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:17:39 all those extra security models are a pain to manage Jan 10 15:17:48 That and the reboot that was needed. Jan 10 15:18:56 I got a few more things to figure out, and need to do a proper policy, but it'll be fun, and nice once I get it going. Jan 10 15:19:11 Espicially once I get to where I can install tripwire. Jan 10 15:20:21 a silly question? can i :) Jan 10 15:21:09 radiohead: Just ask, the only silly/stupid questions are the ones unasked and ones like "can I ask..." Jan 10 15:21:45 cn somebody explain me when i copy data from /hdaX1 to /hdX2 example 2GB and when i umount /dev/hdX2 it late about 4-7 seconds Jan 10 15:21:56 FriedBob: :) i say without ask lol Jan 10 15:23:08 My guess would be it's flushing the buffers/caches and perhaps updating the journaling, if applicable, if I am reading what you said right. Jan 10 15:23:16 FriedBob: when i try munt -o sync then cp take little longer and umount finished 1sec Jan 10 15:23:16 --> Polleke (polleke@polleke.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:23:20 <-- willwork4foo has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 15:23:25 --> slackem (~w00t@ool-182c5ff6.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:23:34 how to clone two hardisks? Jan 10 15:23:53 Dunno what the -o sync thing does, never used it and haven't read the man for mount yet. Jan 10 15:23:54 Physically impossible. Jan 10 15:24:06 FriedBob: yep i read ok :) Jan 10 15:24:46 FriedBob: it means "do all I/O synchronously" Jan 10 15:25:03 FriedBob: well on manual say should be done synchronously Jan 10 15:25:06 jorgito: Are they they exact same type? Jan 10 15:25:06 <-- turbanoo has quit ("...mais tem o que não pode os mano, é doutro lado mais é é pela orde vamo dá mó mamão só catá demorou, ó só, ti pus na fita q) Jan 10 15:25:19 Dagmar: Ahh, instead of the default async. Makes sense. Jan 10 15:25:21 tom I thought dd would clone ? Jan 10 15:25:23 Dagmar, they are the same size Jan 10 15:25:33 jorgito: But not the same model? Jan 10 15:25:38 jorgito: you mean clone one disk to another? Jan 10 15:25:45 Dagmar: yep u right Jan 10 15:25:47 jorgito: or clone two disks to two other disks? Jan 10 15:25:55 Dagmar yes they are not the same Jan 10 15:26:09 jorgito: Okay, now are they the _exact_ same size? Jan 10 15:26:10 Dominian no , to clone one disk to another second Jan 10 15:26:22 ah Jan 10 15:26:27 jorgito: If they are the _Exact_ same size, you can use dd to copy them Jan 10 15:26:28 Dagmar, yes they are.., Jan 10 15:26:28 You can do that with Norton Ghost. Jan 10 15:26:37 or knoppix Jan 10 15:26:45 jorgito: If the destination drive is just a wee bit smaller than the source drive tho, it will not work Jan 10 15:27:01 Dagmar: that's the downlside to use dd to do the copy Jan 10 15:27:12 Dagmar: copies sector by sector.. what a bitch.. Jan 10 15:27:18 jorgito: like, if you old drive is /dev/hda and the new one is /dev/hdc you can do `dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc bs=512` and then just wait until it's done. Jan 10 15:27:26 Dagmar, Dominian what to do with the partitions? Jan 10 15:27:56 --> signal (~anarky@host27-20.pool8251.interbusiness.it) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:28:26 http://www.partimage.org/ Jan 10 15:28:30 jorgito: If you copy the drive using the whole device as the name (/dev/hda instead of /dev/hda1) it will copy the partition table and everything. Jan 10 15:28:44 Partition Image will only copy data from the used portions of the partition. For speed and efficiency, free blocks are not written to the image file. This is unlike the 'dd' command, which also copies empty blocks. Partition Image also works for large, very full partitions. For example, a full 1 GB partition can be compressed with gzip down to 400MB. Jan 10 15:28:59 Dominian: It's not like you cant jack up block size to be the maximum burst size the drives will do Jan 10 15:29:12 Dagmar: yeah Jan 10 15:29:45 Dagmar: so that is explain why umount take a little time ? Jan 10 15:29:59 radiohead: Does what explain? Jan 10 15:30:59 about when i copy data on other reiserfs partition on linux then try umount /dev/hdX then umount take few seconds Jan 10 15:31:16 --> Analyzer (~Analyzer@ts3-a141.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:31:37 hey, i can modinfo something but i can't modprobe that thing Jan 10 15:31:40 anyone knoe why? Jan 10 15:32:18 --> willwork4foo (~xxxx@fluorine.eu.sun.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:32:18 deufo: you using modprobe as root? Jan 10 15:32:26 yes Jan 10 15:32:31 --- solsTiCe is now known as Gniarg Jan 10 15:32:41 deufo: when you modprobe.. what's it tell you error message wise? Jan 10 15:32:46 <-- turbano has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 15:32:46 --- Gniarg is now known as linuce Jan 10 15:32:49 duefo: The module has to be saying something about why it's not loading in the syslog Jan 10 15:33:12 FATAL: Module snd_emu10k1 not found. Jan 10 15:33:19 heh Jan 10 15:33:20 --> tbird (1000@pcp09788624pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:33:20 uhh Jan 10 15:33:23 Dagmar: sorry thought u read before my question :) Jan 10 15:33:28 It's not compiled as a module in your kernel Jan 10 15:33:39 lo Dominian Jan 10 15:33:41 radiohead: Sounds like it's just writing the remaining journal info to me Jan 10 15:33:43 deufo: You compile your own kernel? Jan 10 15:33:45 radiohead: lo Jan 10 15:33:48 yes Jan 10 15:33:59 Dagmar, must be the same filesystem on both drives? Jan 10 15:33:59 i installed that module by myself Jan 10 15:34:02 deufo: You need to compile that driver as a module Jan 10 15:34:05 --> Psirom (~140@203-206-23-102.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:34:10 <-- linuce has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 10 15:34:11 Dagmar: thx man Jan 10 15:34:19 --> solsTiCe_ (~solsTiCe@d213-103-247-158.cust.tele2.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:34:23 radiohead, DAgmar is woman Jan 10 15:34:26 deufo: In the kernel config... that driver needs to have an M next to it. Jan 10 15:34:31 --- solsTiCe_ is now known as solsTiCe Jan 10 15:34:46 but then 5 mins ago it was working Jan 10 15:34:52 until i recompiled my kernel Jan 10 15:34:57 * MAN_Hater boo hooze cuz no one commented on parttion image Jan 10 15:35:01 <-- tbird has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 15:35:02 * Dominian shrugs.. I'm just tellin' yah Jan 10 15:35:03 --> tbird (1000@pcp09788624pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:35:09 but b4 and now it was not compiled with the kernel Jan 10 15:35:09 I use the same driver... it needs to be a module in the kernel config Jan 10 15:35:10 now.. Jan 10 15:35:22 if you did something to the kernel.. and didn't run lilo before you rebooted Jan 10 15:35:28 that might be your problem. Jan 10 15:35:30 <-- Analyzer has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 15:35:44 ah Jan 10 15:35:44 anyway.. I need a cig... brb Jan 10 15:35:46 jorgito: oh i didn`t know Jan 10 15:35:47 i fixed the problem Jan 10 15:36:31 * MAN_Hater thinks seeing a tbird is a good thing at the start of a week Jan 10 15:36:51 <-- slackem has quit () Jan 10 15:37:00 MAN_Hater: Depends on who was inside it. ;) Jan 10 15:37:32 friedBob I mean the indian legend (smile Jan 10 15:37:55 ...and here I was thinking you were talking about the line diagnostic tool. Jan 10 15:37:56 MAN_Hater: Heh. Wasn't sure if you meant that or the car, so assumed the car. Jan 10 15:38:25 <-- Tom^ has quit () Jan 10 15:38:35 --> eelriver (~murp@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:38:50 <-- deufo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 15:39:05 --> Kriss (kriss@kriss.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:40:29 --> grurf (~grurf@sureno.demon.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:41:11 <-- signal has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 15:41:15 Heya eelriver. Jan 10 15:41:25 --> PiterPunk (~punk@200-206-132-181.dsl.telesp.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:41:53 Hi, FriedBob Jan 10 15:42:29 eelriver: How goes today? Jan 10 15:42:57 I don't know yet. Just got up. Haven't had coffee yet Jan 10 15:43:20 It's real early for me too. Jan 10 15:43:21 <-- okmeufilho has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 15:43:37 --> Analyzer (~Analyzer@ts3-a141.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:44:38 using: vector linux 3.2 (slackware 8.1 modification) problem: printing (test page prints perfectly, but abiword and siag want to print using lpr, which isn't installed. test page was printed using apsfilt's interface to ghostscript) question: Which command to use for abiword and siag to print? Jan 10 15:44:40 eelriver: I had maybe 3 hours sleep last night. Jan 10 15:45:06 <-- Analyzer has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 15:45:07 --> okmeufilho (fdsfgjfgh@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:45:27 FriedBob, Yeah, me too from about 2:30 till now. Damn phone. Jan 10 15:45:46 grurf, #vector Jan 10 15:45:55 --> qkit (~qkit@210.186.61.215) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:46:05 <-- DrScream has quit ("changing servers") Jan 10 15:46:28 --> DrScream (servers@multitasking.erzeugt.schizophrenie.computersforpeace.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:47:10 Or #abiword or such. Jan 10 15:47:14 Polleke: They don't respond in the vector channels Jan 10 15:47:46 hey guys...anyone here of kde2html package ? Jan 10 15:47:49 grurf, then go to their support mailing lists, forums or use another distro or find it out yourself Jan 10 15:47:51 here=hear Jan 10 15:47:54 Who the hell calls people at 6:00 in the morning, I'm not on call anymore. Jan 10 15:48:02 brb Jan 10 15:48:03 FriedBob: the problem isn't abiword-specific Jan 10 15:48:09 eelriver: Didn't get off work till almost midnight, then installed SELinux and stuff like that, and got to bed around 0300. Jan 10 15:49:22 grurf: That was forked almost two full major releases ago Jan 10 15:49:33 grurf: No, but it sounds like it could be misconfigured, so it'd be appropriate to ask there, as it very well could be an application level problem and not a system level one. Jan 10 15:51:08 FriedBob, How did that go? Did you get it set up for 10? Jan 10 15:51:20 all I want to know is the command needed to print, probably ghostscript's one. Jan 10 15:51:57 --> Frank-Drebin (1000@adsl-223-99-138.aep.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:52:11 eelriver: Found some packages built specifically for Slack, said it was based on 9.1, but the versions for the patched glibc matched what I had installed on my 10 box, so it's all good. Jan 10 15:52:41 <-- MAN_Hater has quit ("If you are reading this then it exited correctly : If you are not reading this ; then why did I write it ?") Jan 10 15:52:57 Cool, I might have to try that Jan 10 15:53:04 Now just gotta set up my policies and stuff. Jan 10 15:53:46 eelriver: http://www.diyab.net/selinux/ Jan 10 15:54:06 Download the bzip from the mirror w/ the extra docs, it's about twice as fast. Jan 10 15:54:29 and 40mb at 60something is much better than 40mb at 30something Jan 10 15:54:59 Thanks! Jan 10 15:55:25 --> Analyzer (~Analyzer@ts3-a141.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 15:58:18 grurf, What command do you use for the test page? Jan 10 15:59:58 eelriver: The install.txt on the doc site is a little hard to read, and according to this one item in the mailing list I just read, you should boot to single user w/ enforcement off before you label your system. Jan 10 16:00:53 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:00:59 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-216-76-227-234.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:01:19 eelriver: like I said before, I used the apsfilt interface to set up the printer, apsfilt configures ghostscript Jan 10 16:01:27 --> adjacent (~scott@63.209.153.130) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:02:56 <-- Analyzer has quit ("Quit") Jan 10 16:04:48 --> elwood (~io@ppp-62-11-186-46.dialup.tiscali.it) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:06:27 --> dmi (~dmi@2-3.dialup.lanck.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:07:13 hi. what (usually) handles filesystem automount in slckaware 10.0 and how it could be disabled? Jan 10 16:07:35 dmi: edit your /etc/fstab Jan 10 16:07:52 Or /etc/rc.d/rc/hotplug Jan 10 16:08:02 Err Jan 10 16:08:07 rc.hotplug rather Jan 10 16:08:21 dmi: nothing Jan 10 16:08:22 <-- StevenR has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 16:08:43 grurf, Have you tried lpr? Jan 10 16:08:51 dmi: You basically gotta be using a 2.6.x kernel, Gnome/KDE and hald & dbus, or supermount-ng (but only when the others are not present) Jan 10 16:09:04 eelriver: he said it wasn't installed Jan 10 16:09:09 i made SLAX based livecd and I don't want it to mount anything from hard drives to be able to power down w/o problems Jan 10 16:09:25 using kernel 2.4.26 hotplug and devfsd Jan 10 16:09:47 So what is it, slack10 or Slax? Jan 10 16:09:55 Or some hybrid? Jan 10 16:09:56 Frank-Drebin: does hotplug handle "foreign" filesystem mounting? Jan 10 16:10:13 slax uses installed slack10 Jan 10 16:10:32 That's the automounter Jan 10 16:10:32 yeah, i'd call it hybrid :) Jan 10 16:10:36 When I booted my slax CD, it loaded hotplug and mounted my USB drive when I inserted it. Jan 10 16:10:47 hotplug has nothing to do with remote filesystems or facilities Jan 10 16:10:50 It's all about local hardware Jan 10 16:11:05 FriedBob: USB is not this case actually... hotplug do handle USB, but I'm not sure about say ntfs Jan 10 16:11:31 Dagmar: biggest pain is ext2 and ntfs not menmtioned in fstab Jan 10 16:11:37 Hotplugd scripts don't actually mount anything by default Jan 10 16:11:48 dmi: Why are you still using ext2? Jan 10 16:11:50 <-- Tukon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 16:12:04 Dagmar: how could I know that is automounter and how to disable it permanently? Jan 10 16:12:31 Even /I/ don't use ext2 anymore, and that says a lot, as I'm typically one of the last to upgrade anything. Jan 10 16:12:32 Dagmar: oh, don't ask :) It's all about 2.2 kernels :) Jan 10 16:12:40 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 16:13:01 <-- radiohead has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 16:13:12 dmi: Ouch. The automounter is something I have gotten along with just fine without. Jan 10 16:13:22 --> ptlo (~senko@cmung4157.cmu.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:13:29 I've used supermount-ng a few times for USB keys and CDs but it's kinda bitchy Jan 10 16:13:44 well, doesn't matter. I don't want ext3 filesystems to be mounted to. Digging thru /etc/rc.d/* but don't see where automount is mentioned Jan 10 16:13:52 is it the part of the kernel perhaps/ Jan 10 16:13:59 is devfsd involved? Jan 10 16:14:27 this box is awefully sluggish Jan 10 16:14:32 shouldn't be though Jan 10 16:14:42 <_erik> slax uses devfs? when will people learn Jan 10 16:14:48 No, automounting is it's own thing separate from everything else. Look for the autofs package Jan 10 16:15:06 <-- At0mic_PC has quit ("Client exciting") Jan 10 16:15:28 anyone had issues with speed under slack 10 with nvidia card and triple display? Jan 10 16:15:29 dmi: What, exactly, is it that you're trying to mount? Jan 10 16:15:32 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:15:37 do you know a DESCENT jabber server??!?!?!?! Jan 10 16:15:57 okmeufilho: Lay off the punctuation, please. Jan 10 16:16:56 DESCENT? Havent played that in ages. Jan 10 16:17:07 Tis a good game/series. Jan 10 16:17:23 no signs of autofs Jan 10 16:17:24 Made me spacesick. Jan 10 16:17:43 Dagmar: I'm trying NOT to mount :) Jan 10 16:17:54 dmi: autofs is the name of the package 10.0 shipped it with Jan 10 16:18:07 dmi: _what_ are you trying to not mount then? Jan 10 16:19:27 Dagmar: I see. it should at least have some traces in /etc/rc.d, am I right? Jan 10 16:19:37 Traces of _what_? Jan 10 16:19:46 of autofs Jan 10 16:20:06 No Jan 10 16:20:16 That's live cd ... I don't want it to touch hdd at all Jan 10 16:20:50 Oh wait. You're talking about modifying slax aren't you. Jan 10 16:20:58 --> teleyag (~teleyag@pcp08125753pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:22:02 yeah :) Jan 10 16:22:09 Then you're on your own. Jan 10 16:22:17 Dagmar: I don't see /etc/rc.d/rc.auto* , I don't see /usr/sbin/automounter Jan 10 16:22:33 I am not going to feel the least bit responsible about whatever some amatuers may have done to get Slackware running off a CD> Jan 10 16:22:45 --> _espen (nirox@srv.linux-skolen.org) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:23:04 ;-) Jan 10 16:23:24 dmi: Try #slax or ##slax or such or their mailing lists/forums. Jan 10 16:23:35 I just wanted to ask what handles automounting. Cause I'm out of ideas. Jan 10 16:23:55 They're probably using supermount-ng if they have a 2.4.x kernel Jan 10 16:24:10 ...for flash media and CDs that is. Jan 10 16:24:20 ok, thanks! Jan 10 16:24:21 --> [TK]D-Fender (~joe@4.67.252.216.dsl1.colba.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 16:24:23 For actual disks, they probably hacked something togeher Jan 10 16:24:49 <-- Tukon has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 16:25:06 nvm I found out how to print now, just use gs but with a lot of options Jan 10 16:25:48 ah, found something in their forum Jan 10 16:25:48 thanks once again! 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Jan 10 17:02:12 <-- elwood has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 17:05:01 sorry slacksec.info Jan 10 17:05:58 --> Dario (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:06:25 does anyone have a silent bootsplash installed? I know how to install a regular bootsplash, but i want to put a silent one for bootup. Jan 10 17:06:33 I have Jan 10 17:07:10 Wie? :) Jan 10 17:08:07 Mit dem tools von der site, einem splash theme das ein silent jpg hat und dem befehl in linux.conf append=spals=silent" Jan 10 17:08:17 splash=silent Jan 10 17:08:36 DieRatte2: See #slacksec Jan 10 17:09:21 thx Jan 10 17:09:22 DieRatte2, I'm not fluent in german but I understood that, let me look at that stuff. Jan 10 17:09:23 :) Jan 10 17:10:15 well, if you aren't why try to talk in it? English is fine for me Jan 10 17:10:31 cos I took one course in U. :p Jan 10 17:10:37 alrite :-) Jan 10 17:10:55 --- A-Acid is now known as AcidChild Jan 10 17:11:47 the "append=spals=silent", i just toss that anywhere in the "bootsplash-1024x768.cfg? Jan 10 17:11:58 (and the theme does support silent) Jan 10 17:12:18 nope in the lilo.conf Jan 10 17:12:26 aha Jan 10 17:12:26 and its splash of course Jan 10 17:12:48 append = "splash=silent" Jan 10 17:13:00 does anyone know the name of the app that emulates a connected terminal ever when the remote term disconnects Jan 10 17:13:04 after your initrd entry Jan 10 17:13:33 (ever == even) Jan 10 17:13:43 DieRatte2, ya. ok. Jan 10 17:13:43 <-- Analyzer has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 17:14:16 AllenOne: screen Jan 10 17:14:34 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:14:41 pingtimeout, cool thats is what I thought, just wanted to make sure Jan 10 17:14:45 DieRatte2, i'm gonna test it. :) thanks much! Jan 10 17:15:10 <-- Dario has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 17:15:10 bootsplash.. what a pain Jan 10 17:15:11 np Jan 10 17:15:21 Its, like, l33t, you know? Jan 10 17:15:33 oh yeah.. l33t Jan 10 17:15:54 annoying is more like it hehe Jan 10 17:16:01 if I wanted bootsplash I would've stuck with Windows :P Jan 10 17:16:15 --> newbien (~c@dyn-host-206.113.40.203.stowetel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:17:05 Well, looks do count Jan 10 17:17:15 yeah, bootsplash gets annoying after a while. I've used it for a while Jan 10 17:17:17 I for one like the boot up text Jan 10 17:17:22 just had fun setting it up Jan 10 17:17:49 i for one am tired of the text bootup. macs have it done very nicely Jan 10 17:17:55 that way I instantly know when I dorked up my config lol Jan 10 17:18:16 but i wish there would be an easier way than bootsplash. too much damn work involved with that Jan 10 17:18:41 ananke, make a bootsplash with text ontop of it Jan 10 17:18:43 ananke: YEah, bootsplash could use a more complete makefile Jan 10 17:19:04 Polleke : i don't want text Jan 10 17:19:10 It's new. Nect versions will be easier Jan 10 17:19:21 any way to install slack 9.1 to a usb compact flash? dunno whether i posted in #slackware or ##slackware last time Jan 10 17:19:35 the project has been abandoned and the author is making a new project doing it in userland Jan 10 17:19:43 Should linux make your cursor turn into a sad penguin if anything goes wrong at boot up? Jan 10 17:19:43 newbien: Pretty much no. Jan 10 17:19:45 :-D Jan 10 17:19:45 --> Dario (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:19:57 AllenOne : that would be nice Jan 10 17:20:10 well, technically it works. I have a silent bootsplash. But the bar doesn't progress. It stays at 0% Jan 10 17:20:31 Dagmar: reasons for not being able to install to a usb compact flash; want to research it to learn more Jan 10 17:20:36 I got a kick out of the "sad mac" when there was issues Jan 10 17:20:36 Dario, that requires some more work setting that up Jan 10 17:20:40 Dario: you left out the important bit where you go through your boot scripts and start wedging in the statements to artificially move the progress meter Jan 10 17:21:11 Dagmar, ahh. That would probably be it. I was wondering how a jpg could detect that stuff.. :) Jan 10 17:21:13 Dario. Me neither. Was to much hassel Jan 10 17:21:14 AllenOne: I think pretty much everyone else but you would prefer if the computer will just tell you what's wrong rather than "making a sad face" and expecting you to dig for it. Jan 10 17:21:48 Dagmar : i would be plenty satisfied with a sad penguin, and ability to switch to a text output of what went wrong Jan 10 17:22:02 yeah the progressbar was quite annoying. Lets wait for a init with threads Jan 10 17:22:11 would make it easy Jan 10 17:22:15 lol Jan 10 17:22:17 DieRatte2, well.. one small step. For now, I should get going to school. I have readings to do and girls to check out. Jan 10 17:22:29 an init with threading Jan 10 17:22:30 heheh Jan 10 17:22:31 Dagmar, lol, I said I was quite happy with the text. Anake wanted the more mac like boot ;P Jan 10 17:22:31 Thats important enuf Jan 10 17:23:07 newbien: But you can install something like Slax to a bootable USB drive. Jan 10 17:23:14 does bootsplash have a way to get ....bypass itself incase you don't want to view it Jan 10 17:23:35 slax is easy to install to usb! Jan 10 17:23:43 I think you have to specify that in the append line or at the prompt before booting the kernel Jan 10 17:23:44 and pretty easy to configure and build modules for too Jan 10 17:23:48 --> solardreamis1 (~twan@dc5146d009.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:23:53 correct Dominian Jan 10 17:23:55 like nosplash Jan 10 17:23:56 aye Jan 10 17:23:57 or something Jan 10 17:24:02 what I figured Jan 10 17:24:10 --> lozlap (root@81.196.207.1) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:24:10 --- nixor sets ban on *!root@* Jan 10 17:24:11 <-- nixor has kicked lozlap from ##slackware (banned: It is very dangerous to IRC as root. Please return under a user account.) Jan 10 17:24:21 I, for one, like my text booting. Bet no one expected me to like that, eh? Jan 10 17:24:29 hehe Jan 10 17:24:34 I just have framebuffer going.. good enough for me Jan 10 17:24:48 text is fine for geeks, but it's just plain ugly, imho Jan 10 17:24:51 If you spend so much time watching it boot that it actually matters, there's probably something wrong with you Jan 10 17:24:54 can anybody help with a permission error I got, I tried everthing I could think off from checking every folder for the files to chmodding the folders again, nothing is working I can;t restart my services for everything I keep getting /usr/local/bin/perl: Permission denied Jan 10 17:25:05 anybody any ideas what could be wtong? Jan 10 17:25:15 FriedBob: yea, checked out all the available distros; want to build my own slack distro on a usb compact flash Jan 10 17:25:16 This is not Windows. We don't need to reboot every 72 hours, or even every 48 days. Jan 10 17:25:20 solardreamis1: did you upgrade the perl package on Slackware or smething? Jan 10 17:25:22 solardreamis1 : uhmm, do you have /usr/local/bin/perl? Jan 10 17:25:34 Dagmar : some people do reboot often. Jan 10 17:25:38 iirc perl should be in /usr/bin Jan 10 17:25:41 perl came with my cpanel Jan 10 17:25:47 solardreams1: What nasty little third-party thing did you just install? Jan 10 17:25:49 cpanel!? Jan 10 17:25:50 and it was upgraded a few days ago abnd worked fine Jan 10 17:25:55 ananke: Did I miss so mething? Jan 10 17:25:56 ehhh cpanel? Jan 10 17:25:59 I got a webserver Jan 10 17:26:04 this is ##slackware.. not #cpanel Jan 10 17:26:12 confusiong Jan 10 17:26:13 Dominian, I know Jan 10 17:26:14 -g Jan 10 17:26:22 <-- okmeufilho has quit ("Vision[0.9.7-SF-010705]: i've been blurred!") Jan 10 17:26:35 does that even work properly with slackware? Jan 10 17:26:38 Dominian, but don;t know where to go anymore, tried almost anywhere Jan 10 17:26:49 Polleke: not to my knowledge Jan 10 17:27:01 solardreamis1: first off... is this YOUR box its on? Jan 10 17:27:09 if so, go to a command prompt and type: which perl Jan 10 17:27:22 if it shows up anywhere but /usr/local/bin then that's the issue Jan 10 17:27:28 root@ns1 [/]# which perl Jan 10 17:27:28 /usr/local/bin/perl Jan 10 17:27:47 ls -al /usr/local/bin/perl Jan 10 17:27:51 --> raindog (~raindog@c-67-171-158-249.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:28:07 solardreamis1: How about tech support for the ISP? Jan 10 17:28:09 Dominian: I don't even have frame buffer, just my text console set to about 132x60 Jan 10 17:28:18 FriedBob: hehe Jan 10 17:28:28 FriedBob: You don't use any window manager do you? Jan 10 17:28:32 Dagmar, I mailed them yesterday and all they said was we rebooted your server great huh Jan 10 17:28:44 solardreamis1: does your ISP even use slackware? Jan 10 17:28:46 Dominian: SOmetimes use screen. Jan 10 17:28:48 solardreamis1: well, call 'em again. That's what you're paying them for Jan 10 17:28:50 FriedBob: ahh Jan 10 17:28:56 Dominian: And emacs. Jan 10 17:29:09 Dominian: But no, I don't have X installed. Jan 10 17:29:12 Dominian, think I'm in the wrong channel yeah Jan 10 17:29:17 Dominian: Look at www.cpanel.net and tell me whether we should bother with that guy. Heh Jan 10 17:29:17 solardreamis1: Yeah Jan 10 17:29:24 solardreamis1, care giving the output of that command Dominian pointed out Jan 10 17:29:27 Dagmar: I'm not messin' with it Jan 10 17:29:27 sorry to bother you all Jan 10 17:29:38 solardreamis1: ls -al /usr/local/bin/perl Jan 10 17:29:43 /bin/ls: unrecognized prefix: do Jan 10 17:29:43 /bin/ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variable Jan 10 17:29:43 /bin/ls: /user/local/bin/perl: No such file or directory Jan 10 17:29:44 maybe we can tell the ISP where the fscked up :) Jan 10 17:29:46 I built the 2.6.7 kernel and copied it over, but I'm getting all kinds of errors at boot up saying 486 should be PENTIUM4 or something like that...did I forget to do a make clean first or something? Jan 10 17:29:52 uhhh Jan 10 17:29:56 Why should we? They dont' support Slackware. Jan 10 17:29:58 I see your problem Jan 10 17:30:01 solardreamis1, relogin Jan 10 17:30:03 --- stmariej_ is now known as ShastaMaroon Jan 10 17:30:04 and if you can't see it.. Jan 10 17:30:08 something is wrong with your eyes Jan 10 17:30:19 <-- Dario has quit ("oh sh!t.") Jan 10 17:30:24 yeah me see lemme check something Jan 10 17:30:27 <-- newbien (~c@dyn-host-206.113.40.203.stowetel.com) has left ##slackware Jan 10 17:30:44 the path is /usr not /user Jan 10 17:31:13 Dominian, yeah guess your eyes bit better then mine :P Jan 10 17:31:35 --> dngr (~dngr@dsl-200-67-143-98.prod-empresarial.com.mx) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:31:51 heh Jan 10 17:32:24 sorry again for bothering you all, I logged in automaticly in here that why :P gonna work on it again Jan 10 17:32:45 np Jan 10 17:32:47 --> jota (~jota@201.243.212.188) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:33:04 Dominian, thnx Jan 10 17:33:40 hha cpanel....nothing like laughing at old messages Jan 10 17:34:10 AllenOne: Except laughing at new ones. Jan 10 17:34:55 <-- schlm has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 10 17:39:51 <-- dwolf has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 17:40:37 <-- tbird has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 10 17:40:57 ...man, guy in the cube next to me is eating chinese food..... Jan 10 17:41:05 and it smells really good Jan 10 17:41:08 --> Lurkan (~Lurkan@201.135.159.181) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:41:13 mug him! :) Jan 10 17:41:18 I'm about to Jan 10 17:41:46 I had a crappy tv dinner for lunch....stupid midnight shift *grumble* Jan 10 17:43:52 --> Alan_Hicks (~alan@wsip-68-101-44-227.mc.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:44:50 <-- LoRez (lorez@lorez.staff.freenode) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 10 17:45:19 Howdy. Jan 10 17:45:45 <-- s0ulslack has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 17:45:53 --> s0ulslack (soul@usr-if-43.rmci.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:48:22 --> Windsurf (~Windsurf@d221-85-216.commercial.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:48:35 i'm doing a ps aux | grep httpd Jan 10 17:48:35 --> quiet (~quiet@209.94.61.52) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:48:48 and i see www is using like 4 or 5 httpd instance. Jan 10 17:48:55 Windsurf : and? that's normal Jan 10 17:48:55 Windsurf: that's normal Jan 10 17:48:59 is that because that many people are surfing the site? Jan 10 17:49:04 no Jan 10 17:49:07 child processes Jan 10 17:49:13 <-- dngr has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 17:49:18 Windsurf : read your httpd.conf Jan 10 17:49:20 apache forks off child processes to help handle server load Jan 10 17:49:30 I know this is totally the wrong place to be asking this, but I'm stuck. Does anyone know of an IRC channel for help with Exchange/Outlook?? Or does anyone in here have good experience with it? Jan 10 17:49:45 ok. trying to track down why it may be slow right now Jan 10 17:49:46 quiet: before I answer... why are you asking...? Jan 10 17:49:48 --> schlm (~schelm@pD9EB8312.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:49:51 <-- solardreamis1 has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 10 17:49:58 ok Jan 10 17:50:10 quiet: Exchange help? Try #/dev/null Jan 10 17:50:13 I'm at work, and we just got a new temp person, I can't get Outlook to connect to Exchange Jan 10 17:50:14 hehe Jan 10 17:50:44 quiet: first things first: start/run type cmd then do ipconfig Jan 10 17:50:50 if you don't have an ip address.. there's your problem Jan 10 17:50:51 that is al fine Jan 10 17:50:57 ping the server Jan 10 17:51:04 i can doa ll that Jan 10 17:51:06 what's that command that lets you see what processors are running and at what intensity? Jan 10 17:51:07 DNS? Jan 10 17:51:10 I guess the help is within outlook Jan 10 17:51:11 Windsurf : top Jan 10 17:51:15 Windsurf: top Jan 10 17:51:16 args? Jan 10 17:51:17 quiet: Can you telnet to port 110 or 143 or 25 on the Exchange server? Jan 10 17:51:20 Windsurf : man top Jan 10 17:51:24 k thanks Jan 10 17:51:31 --> sami_ (~sami@h153n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:51:35 frickin A Jan 10 17:51:38 anytime. i'll tell you to rtfm at no charge Jan 10 17:51:43 lmao Jan 10 17:51:45 T1 is saturated. I hate hosting video streams Jan 10 17:51:53 ananke: need to get a Tshirt with that on it Jan 10 17:52:05 fuzzbawl: bandwidth throttling Jan 10 17:52:12 learn it, use it, love it Jan 10 17:52:14 --> zechim (~lzechim@ravel.cit.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:52:50 ? windows help in a slack channel Jan 10 17:52:57 the world IS ending Jan 10 17:52:58 lol Jan 10 17:53:10 nah.. just hell freezing over Jan 10 17:53:18 --> defile (~defile@unicron.ecr.navy.mil) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:53:30 =P Jan 10 17:53:41 thanks anyways man.. I'm going to keep searching Jan 10 17:53:46 --> Buggaboo (~bug@ut-z-6021.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:53:48 hey people Jan 10 17:54:08 I'm looking for a nice site that has all the switches for the test() if [] conditional stuff. Jan 10 17:54:28 Buggaboo: localhost Jan 10 17:54:54 Buggaboo, man test Jan 10 17:54:54 Specifically `man test` and `man bash` Jan 10 17:55:15 okiedokie Jan 10 17:55:16 --> solardreamis1 (~twan@dc5146d009.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 17:55:27 thanks Dagmar defile Jan 10 17:55:33 damnit, i turn away for a second, and people use my approach Jan 10 17:56:31 Don't even think about asking for help with your scrambled up colocated non-slackware shell host. Jan 10 17:56:45 <-- FriedBob has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 10 17:57:22 ananke: need to trademark it Jan 10 17:58:31 * foureyes779 w00t's Jan 10 17:59:48 <-- _KAO_ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 18:00:40 Dominian, got any good howto's? Jan 10 18:00:49 on what? Jan 10 18:01:00 bandwidth control Jan 10 18:01:05 eh.. sorry no I don't Jan 10 18:01:11 He doesn't care what. He just wants the hook-up. ;) Jan 10 18:01:23 Our WAN provider fixes that stuff for us Jan 10 18:01:33 I think you can use IPtables to do it Jan 10 18:01:47 I know you can do it on Cisco routers. Jan 10 18:02:46 our isp doesn't even give us read-only access to our router :( Jan 10 18:02:57 Us either. Jan 10 18:03:03 We just tell them "We need this done and done quickly" Jan 10 18:03:05 and they do it hehe Jan 10 18:03:22 hehe Jan 10 18:03:31 then again.. we pay them a LOT of money Jan 10 18:03:33 That's _nice_ Jan 10 18:03:38 So the last thing they want is us being pissed off. Jan 10 18:04:15 <-- Windsurf (~Windsurf@d221-85-216.commercial.cgocable.net) has left ##slackware Jan 10 18:04:21 brb Jan 10 18:04:54 --> signal (~anarky@host69-116.pool8248.interbusiness.it) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:05:42 --> tbird (1000@pcp09788624pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:05:55 --> GhostXz (GXZ@CPE000d88a9ac16-CM001225419a6c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:05:55 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@CPE000d88a9ac16-CM001225419a6c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com Jan 10 18:05:55 <-- nixor has kicked GhostXz from ##slackware (banned: GhostX - op trolling) Jan 10 18:06:11 <-- ptlo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 18:09:01 <-- Lurkan has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 18:09:33 --> buzzedlightyear (~buzzedlig@68-116-50-50.or.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:10:28 --> Lurkan (~Lurkan@201.135.159.181) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:10:35 --> dngr (~dngr@dsl-200-67-143-98.prod-empresarial.com.mx) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:13:47 <-- solardreamis1 has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 10 18:14:28 --> blackbird (~dirk@d142-59-169-167.abhsia.telus.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:14:31 <-- dngr has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 18:15:24 --> dngr (~dngr@dsl-200-67-143-98.prod-empresarial.com.mx) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:15:58 <-- sdogi has quit ("leaving") Jan 10 18:16:10 --> sdogi (~java@84-50-19-253-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:16:31 <-- blackbird (~dirk@d142-59-169-167.abhsia.telus.net) has left ##slackware Jan 10 18:17:32 fred87, you around? Jan 10 18:17:36 --> jose1711 (~jose@195.113.99.254) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:20:40 --> sami__ (~sami@h153n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:22:19 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 10 18:22:24 <-- taortan has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 18:24:22 --> mortal_ (~mortal@ASB08.magbelle.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:24:39 greetings all, I'm having a little trouble w cdrecord Jan 10 18:24:54 mortal_: Greetings. 2.6 kernel? Jan 10 18:25:06 Alan_Hicks, nope Jan 10 18:25:16 nice work on the book btw Jan 10 18:25:17 mortal_: What's the problem? Jan 10 18:25:22 Thanks. :-) Jan 10 18:25:35 alan this doesn't work for some reason Jan 10 18:25:38 cdrecord -v -nofix -eject dev=0,1,0 -audio -pad /home/songs/*.wav Jan 10 18:25:41 afk Jan 10 18:25:44 did they FiNAllY finish that ? Jan 10 18:25:49 <-- tbird has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 10 18:26:06 mortal_: any error message? Jan 10 18:26:30 it gives: cdrecord: No tracks allowed with this option Jan 10 18:26:34 Back. Sorry, phone rang. Jan 10 18:26:43 's ok Jan 10 18:26:52 I don't think I've ever burned an audio cd with linux... Jan 10 18:27:05 heh, common now... Jan 10 18:27:11 try removing pad? Jan 10 18:27:26 mortal_: Past your output to http://axpr.net Jan 10 18:27:31 is there a --dryrun option? Jan 10 18:27:39 cdrecord: No tracks allowed with this option Jan 10 18:28:16 <-- sami_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 18:28:56 I got this directly out of The linux cookbook ...lol Jan 10 18:30:01 <-- quiet has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 18:30:13 <-- AllenOne has quit ("leaving work THANK GAWD!") Jan 10 18:30:22 --> Guse (~Guse@200-215-102-006.jvece7003.e.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:31:36 bloody hell...you'd think they'd at least test the code before they publish it Jan 10 18:31:41 Don't see any such --dryrun option in the man page, so I'm guessing no. Jan 10 18:32:01 mortal_: Likely the Cookbook is an older copy and cdrecord ahs changed since it was published. Jan 10 18:32:19 Alan_Hicks, maybe, but this is the copy on safari Jan 10 18:32:28 i think it's 03 Jan 10 18:32:40 so ...fairly recent Jan 10 18:32:45 Got a link? Jan 10 18:32:59 u got safari? Jan 10 18:33:17 --> boow (~boow@dyn34-ter1-pittsburg.fament.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:33:18 http://safari.oreilly.com/?x=1&mode=section&sortKey=title&sortOrder=asc&view=&xmlid=0596006403/linuxckbk-CHP-11-SECT-12&g=&catid=&s=1&b=1&f=1&t=1&c=1&u=1&r=&o=1&n=1&d=1&p=1&a=0 Jan 10 18:33:28 Oh, no. :-) Was thinking different safari (as in web-browser on OS X). Jan 10 18:33:30 might not work for you Jan 10 18:33:36 I got confused. :-) Jan 10 18:33:44 heh Jan 10 18:34:09 hang on let me check the howto Jan 10 18:34:23 that might have better info than some stupid book Jan 10 18:34:36 the fonts where messed up in firefox in kde does anyone else have this problem an a fix http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/928787/firefox.jpg Jan 10 18:34:37 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:36:07 --- _kop_ is now known as kopcicle Jan 10 18:36:30 --> quiet (~quiet@209.94.61.52) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:37:24 <-- boow has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 18:38:01 --> vurte (~haluk@pD953A8AB.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:39:09 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-209-214-147-235.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:39:23 <-- jose1711 has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 18:39:25 <-- avoca has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 18:39:33 cdrecord dev=1,1,0 -eject speed=2 -pad -audio *.wav Jan 10 18:39:39 used that instead... Jan 10 18:39:44 mortal_: That work? Jan 10 18:39:52 for some reason it's working Jan 10 18:39:59 I hope Jan 10 18:40:20 we'll know in a few minutes Jan 10 18:40:27 --> noise (~chatzilla@p83.129.176.172.tisdip.tiscali.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:40:29 coaster anyone? Jan 10 18:40:37 --> Penguin_ (~Penguin@penguin.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:40:38 Is there GUI MTR for Windows? Jan 10 18:40:41 hehe looks like linuxpackages.net is having some issues. Jan 10 18:40:50 Penguin_: gkrellm Jan 10 18:41:02 Penguin_: monitor right? System monitor? Jan 10 18:41:05 Dominian: You mean like Jim Simmons? ;-) Jan 10 18:41:09 wait Jan 10 18:41:12 Dominian you know wtf mtr is Jan 10 18:41:13 Alan_Hicks: yeah jim Jan 10 18:41:31 Penguin_: Ya know.. I just realized.. your trolling in a linux channel for windows questions Jan 10 18:41:39 I don't have much respect for him. Jan 10 18:41:40 Hello, is the "Boehm-Demers-Weiser garbage collector" included with Slackware? Jan 10 18:41:40 No.. Jan 10 18:41:47 <-- wietze has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 18:41:49 --- sami__ is now known as sami_ Jan 10 18:41:50 Dominian i realized you are clueless. Jan 10 18:41:57 <-- sami_ has quit ("leaving") Jan 10 18:41:58 Alan_Hicks: Eh, he's ok. I do like how slackcare gaurantees their packages Jan 10 18:42:01 Penguin_: uh huh Jan 10 18:42:03 http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/ fyi Jan 10 18:42:20 Penguin_: I'm not the one asking the question Jan 10 18:42:20 is pat gona drop gnome? Jan 10 18:42:20 --> wietze (~weedz@frummel.student.utwente.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:42:26 Dominian stfu. Thanks Jan 10 18:42:30 <-- adjacent has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 18:42:33 I'm just not real impressed with him. He behaves like a jerk and shows no respect to others. Jan 10 18:42:38 Penguin_: Make me. Thanks. Jan 10 18:42:39 --- ChanServ sets mode +f ##slackware #overflow Jan 10 18:42:51 But I'm not going to start any sort of flame war here so, change of subject. Jan 10 18:42:54 Alan_Hicks: this is true Jan 10 18:42:55 children children... Jan 10 18:43:00 True Jan 10 18:43:21 * mortal_ starts singing "We don't need no education..." Jan 10 18:43:26 Alan_Hicks: I've spoken with him in email a few times. He seems like a nice guy; I think a lot of it comes from the fact he has to check all these packages himself hehe. Jan 10 18:44:53 Dominian: He won't return an e-mail from me and has made comments on linuxpackages.net about stuff we did in Slacksec without even speaking with us, or returning polite inquiries as to what his problem with us was. Jan 10 18:45:41 mortal_: That cd didn't burn right for ya? Jan 10 18:46:08 <-- Penguin_ (~Penguin@penguin.user) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 10 18:46:14 --> jmedina (~jmedina@63.70.73.227) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:46:14 Alan_Hicks: ahh yes.. those comments he made about slacksec really pissed me off Jan 10 18:46:25 Alan_Hicks: that's when I stopped submitting my packages to linuxpackages.net Jan 10 18:46:34 Alan_Hicks: I still surf the forums and keep an eye on software getting posted there Jan 10 18:46:38 <-- At0mic_PC has quit ("Client exciting") Jan 10 18:46:41 He's made some pretty derogative (IMHO) comments about Pat too. Jan 10 18:46:47 Alan_Hicks: yeah Jan 10 18:47:32 http://www.userlocal.com/interviews/tg/tg1.php Jan 10 18:47:36 There's a definite lack of QA with LP.net, as well... which is why I won't suggest anybody use it Jan 10 18:47:36 Alan_Hicks, its playing now Jan 10 18:47:42 coolness Jan 10 18:47:43 mortal_: Good work. Jan 10 18:47:56 AthlonRob: I'll point people there.. as most of those packages are really good. Jan 10 18:48:01 Hey Rob, didn't notice you were here. Jan 10 18:48:02 I just don't suggest anyone submit packages Jan 10 18:48:40 Alan_Hicks, I don't think you can tell it to -fix when specifying tracks Jan 10 18:48:41 <-- Cueball has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 10 18:48:46 oops, I accidentally changed all the files in my mounted windows path executables... Jan 10 18:48:58 you have to -fix afterwards I guess Jan 10 18:49:02 I fear it would be *VERY* easy for somebody to plant a malicious package on lp.net Jan 10 18:49:32 anyone got an idea how I can selectively executabilify *.exe's in that path? Jan 10 18:49:40 Alan_Hicks: wow he's pretty egotistical Jan 10 18:49:48 AthlonRob: Agreed, and through no fault of Jim (let's be fair here). No one can check each and every package for proper working or non-maliciousness. Freshrpms and similar sites suffer the same problems. Jan 10 18:49:49 and ready-onlify other files? Jan 10 18:50:10 True, Alan, but the fact that Jim is an ass and it is HIS site... well... :-) Jan 10 18:50:11 Dominian: Yeap. You should read the snooping Rob done over in #linuxpackages. Jan 10 18:50:23 Alan_Hicks: eh? Jan 10 18:50:27 Alan_Hicks: Where's that at? Jan 10 18:50:34 Dominian: PM your e-mail. Jan 10 18:51:01 you get that? Jan 10 18:51:05 --> Cueball (~lee@lb3.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:51:06 yeah Jan 10 18:51:07 Alan_Hicks, have you ever used checkinstall? Jan 10 18:51:08 o wait, dudes nevermind. Jan 10 18:51:08 k Jan 10 18:51:13 nothing happened. Jan 10 18:51:33 mortal_: Yes. It's ok. The jury's still out on it IMO. Jan 10 18:51:56 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-209-214-148-97.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:52:05 I've had problems installing packages across machines w the same setup Jan 10 18:52:11 quite strange if you ask me Jan 10 18:52:36 Alan_Hicks: I think the jury is deliberating on the difference between murder one and murder two in that instance. Jan 10 18:54:03 aight guys I gota pack to head back ...thanks all ...cya Alan Jan 10 18:54:19 Take care, mortal. Jan 10 18:54:29 <-- mortal_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 18:54:35 Alan_Hicks: man.. it's like he's talking out of his ass.. .I swear Jan 10 18:55:52 ahh I see he's in #linuxpackages right now too Jan 10 18:55:52 --> OutpourDCC (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:56:12 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 18:56:27 He idles there 24/7, Dominian Jan 10 18:56:37 yeah I see that Jan 10 18:56:57 door... afk Jan 10 18:56:58 <-- Nomius has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 18:57:12 yeah they are talking about the fact that there's something wrong with lp.net Jan 10 18:57:27 --> Nomius (~Nomius@host220.201-252-192.telecom.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:58:38 --> tbird (1000@pcp09788624pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 18:58:55 Dominian: Really? Care to make a log? If myself or Rob go in there they're sure to shut up or go to PM. Jan 10 18:58:55 <-- dngr has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 18:59:05 Or kickban us. :-) Jan 10 18:59:19 hehe Jan 10 18:59:23 they've only made one comment.. Jan 10 18:59:27 Oh. Jan 10 18:59:31 and that was: anyone else having problems getting to linuxpackages.net Jan 10 18:59:33 and I said: yep Jan 10 18:59:34 hehe Jan 10 19:00:14 well.. Jan 10 19:00:15 after reading that Jan 10 19:00:21 I'm no longer submitting packages Jan 10 19:00:27 --> nirr (1000@bzq-218-163-219.red.bezeqint.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:00:40 as soon as I can get back on.. I'll delete my account Jan 10 19:01:02 --- nirr is now known as nirz Jan 10 19:01:05 <-- zechim has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 10 19:01:12 Alan_Hicks: Man.. comments like that are what really annoy me. Jan 10 19:01:21 Alan_Hicks: ##slackware is a bunch of efnet wannabes.. wtf? Jan 10 19:01:47 Actually, Alan, I've never emailed Jim myself... unless he noticed me off the slacksec "About Us" page or Pat's card, he probably doesn't know who I am Jan 10 19:01:52 Dominian: It's one thing to be an elitist, it's another thing to be rude and insulting. Jan 10 19:02:12 AthlonRob: He probably knows who you are. Jan 10 19:02:30 --> Done (~konmpoz@ppp15-ax.noc.teithe.gr) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:02:44 <-- Marverick has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 19:02:53 I idled in there for a few weeks... and was never addressed Jan 10 19:03:01 <-- quiet has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 19:03:02 It was funny when he noticed he had more idlers, he didn't have any idea why Jan 10 19:03:06 Between SlackSec, the card (which was finally posted on userlocal.net), AOLS, the Book, we're known. Jan 10 19:03:08 I've asked questions in there and never got an answer Jan 10 19:03:14 Heh. Jan 10 19:03:20 well.. Jan 10 19:03:24 What I thought was funny.. Jan 10 19:03:33 I have a newbie question about fstab, what are the last two digits of each line? Jan 10 19:03:33 is that Piterpunk dealt with slacksec Jan 10 19:03:37 and that kinda pissed off lp.net Jan 10 19:03:53 hmm Jan 10 19:04:00 So did Bruno. Both of them are excellent guys, very Clueful, great Slackers. Was a pleasure to work with them. Jan 10 19:04:03 --> avoca (~avoca@159-134-145-234.as1.mvw.galway.eircom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:04:04 Alan_Hicks: maybe I shoudl mirror lp.net and do a parody.. Jan 10 19:04:21 Alan_Hicks: PiterPunk is a nice guy. Even asked my opinion on the X packages lol Jan 10 19:04:31 Something about the upgraded ones were bad Jan 10 19:04:33 Dominian: Hehe. No, I don't think that would be good PR. Jan 10 19:04:37 can't remember the whole confo Jan 10 19:04:49 Alan_Hicks: PR.. bah.. I'm no affiliated with this channel... yet Jan 10 19:04:55 woot Jan 10 19:04:57 where can i find help about epic4 client? Jan 10 19:05:00 Alan_Hicks: worst thing.. I'd get banned from their channel and lp.net lmao Jan 10 19:05:03 Dominian: I don't recall it all, but they switched their X package for ours after a little while because of a few problems. Jan 10 19:05:13 Hey phrag. Jan 10 19:05:18 Alan_Hicks: Well I know wone had to do with writing to /tmp incorrectly or something.. Jan 10 19:05:20 phrag: oi Jan 10 19:05:32 how class is it when you order something amazing, at 4am in a state, then forget all about it..... Jan 10 19:05:40 phrag: hehe Jan 10 19:05:48 Dominian: Well, to be your good name is the most valuable thing you can have. It's hard to get, easy to loose, and doubly hard to get back. Jan 10 19:05:51 then you come home from your first day at work... and what is sat waiting for you? Jan 10 19:05:56 Alan_Hicks: true Jan 10 19:05:59 --> dngr (~dngr@dsl-200-67-143-98.prod-empresarial.com.mx) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:06:00 Slackware 10.0 ! Jan 10 19:06:06 10.0 or 10.1? Jan 10 19:06:16 oh wait.. you did the subscription thing lol Jan 10 19:06:17 ugh? Is there a new release? Jan 10 19:06:17 what do you think =P Jan 10 19:06:25 so its 10.0 Jan 10 19:06:26 Dominian: yes, i forgot all about it =) Jan 10 19:06:27 --> Lord_Devi (~ld@S01060010b50e8c16.ss.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:06:29 lmao Jan 10 19:06:31 phrag: I didn't Jan 10 19:06:42 and also got some slackware stickers from cafepress Jan 10 19:06:45 mini ones... Jan 10 19:06:56 Did you get the slackwar eplate for your case? Jan 10 19:07:02 Has anyone managed to compile ucspi-tcp-0.88 under slack10? i need it for qmail and for some reason refused to compile =/ Jan 10 19:07:05 phrag, where can i get some slackstickers? hackerstickers.com's paypal thing was down Jan 10 19:07:07 oh yes, 4 =P Jan 10 19:07:14 4?? Jan 10 19:07:18 fax me one hehe Jan 10 19:07:19 buzzedlightyear: cafepress.com do small ones Jan 10 19:07:22 there are cool Jan 10 19:07:24 just got them Jan 10 19:07:27 --> slackem (~w00t@ool-182c5ff6.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:07:28 k thanks Jan 10 19:07:33 they'd look good on my laptop :) Jan 10 19:07:38 :) Jan 10 19:07:38 18 per sheet Jan 10 19:07:40 hello.. Jan 10 19:07:43 oh wow Jan 10 19:07:56 they are 10mmx50mm each sticker Jan 10 19:08:06 so perfect for keyboards, little nooks =) Jan 10 19:08:12 hey im trying to compile 2.6.10 but the 'make' always hangs after like 10 mins or so (old p200mmx) Jan 10 19:08:16 haha they have tux thongs Jan 10 19:08:19 heh, happy days Jan 10 19:08:22 hello everyone! =) Jan 10 19:08:34 slackem: Did you change the processor model in the config? Jan 10 19:08:37 phrag, u got some slack stickers? Jan 10 19:08:39 where from? Jan 10 19:08:42 buzzedlightyear: hackerstickers paypal has been fscked for months Jan 10 19:08:57 Dominian yes + im using .config i saved Jan 10 19:09:00 <-- jrf has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 19:09:04 phrag, yeah...so how are you supposed to order??? Jan 10 19:09:10 i liked their slackware stickers too Jan 10 19:09:12 slackem: .config from what? Jan 10 19:09:16 <-- anhanguera has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 19:09:29 slackem: from an old kernel? Jan 10 19:09:36 i think so Jan 10 19:10:02 slackem: what version kernel did that .config come from? Jan 10 19:10:04 but i compiled 2.6.10 sucessfully before so i think it's from 2.6.10 Jan 10 19:10:11 phrag: man.. could you imagine getting tux tiles and tiling your bathroom in that... Jan 10 19:10:16 slackware stickers.... https://www.cafepress.com/shop/linux/browse/Ntt-slackware_Nao-1_Ntk-All_pv-tinyminds~00.3374483_No-1_N-3533_D-slackware Jan 10 19:10:18 Dominian: oh yes =) Jan 10 19:10:28 Dominian i think it's from 2.6.10 (anyways to check to be sure 100%) Jan 10 19:10:33 slackem: double check all your config options.. if its hanging.. then something must be wrong in the kernel config Jan 10 19:10:35 anyway* Jan 10 19:10:38 AcidChild, buzzedlightyear ^^ Jan 10 19:10:48 phrag, i see a sheet with 18 stickers Jan 10 19:10:59 oh yeah you did say 18 Jan 10 19:11:01 nm :) Jan 10 19:11:04 yes, i got 3 of them Jan 10 19:11:11 have to cut yourself Jan 10 19:11:15 slackem: Well, if you aren't sure.. I'm not sure how to check the .config I usually do make mrproper to clear evyerhing out.. then start over Jan 10 19:11:20 hehe Jan 10 19:11:23 =) Jan 10 19:11:24 Dominian do u think jthat just going through the config will fix the progem? Jan 10 19:11:34 phrag: my truck is the perfect background color for a slackware paint job Jan 10 19:11:39 slackem: possibly Jan 10 19:11:44 has worked for me in the past Jan 10 19:11:45 ta d00d Jan 10 19:11:46 hehe Jan 10 19:11:53 ya i seen em Jan 10 19:11:55 well im gonna give it a try Jan 10 19:11:56 i wana hoody Jan 10 19:11:57 54 mini slack stickers... Jan 10 19:12:01 thanks Dominian Jan 10 19:12:02 4 case badges Jan 10 19:12:05 phrag: go tag people at the mall Jan 10 19:12:07 3 official slack sticker Jan 10 19:12:07 with the slackware lable on the front. Jan 10 19:12:09 slackem: your welcome Jan 10 19:12:12 heh Jan 10 19:12:16 s/your/you're Jan 10 19:12:28 just a lil one Jan 10 19:12:29 Dominian: oh yes, everywhere i lurk will be a slackware sticker =) Jan 10 19:12:36 i dont wana look too geek :P Jan 10 19:12:44 phrag: hehe if you know someone with a windows server.. tag it with a slack sticker.. see how they react Jan 10 19:12:46 i do! Jan 10 19:12:49 \o/ phrag Jan 10 19:12:58 Dominian: work tommorrow! =P Jan 10 19:13:09 AcidChild: you forgot the pom-poms ~\o/~ Jan 10 19:13:13 heh, one on the atm... Jan 10 19:13:14 phrag: hehehe Jan 10 19:13:15 hahaha Jan 10 19:13:19 cool. Jan 10 19:13:30 this channel is allways fun Jan 10 19:13:33 smokey time =) Jan 10 19:13:34 heh...sneak up to bill gates car back in redmond and put one on his bumper Jan 10 19:13:45 hmmmm Jan 10 19:13:47 man the people in #s*se are bitchers Jan 10 19:13:47 buzzedlightyear: chowned Jan 10 19:13:54 buzzedlightyear: you just gave me a new mission Jan 10 19:14:05 AcidChild: we are a happy lot Jan 10 19:14:11 ya man :D Jan 10 19:14:16 that'd be great...whoever could/would do that would be the man Jan 10 19:14:20 hehe Jan 10 19:14:22 the people in #s*se are just soooo newbee Jan 10 19:14:24 buzzedlightyear: get video of it Jan 10 19:14:32 i am on suse atm :( Jan 10 19:14:35 i feel dirty Jan 10 19:14:39 if i lived there i totally would do it. Jan 10 19:14:43 i must wash Jan 10 19:14:44 AcidChild, so am i Jan 10 19:14:51 well u need to wash too Jan 10 19:14:54 novell linux desktop actually Jan 10 19:14:55 blasphemy!! Jan 10 19:15:03 YES!! Jan 10 19:15:04 :( Jan 10 19:15:08 some one slap me. Jan 10 19:15:11 * AcidChild slaps himself Jan 10 19:15:14 * slackem slaps AcidChild Jan 10 19:15:15 much better now Jan 10 19:15:18 thx Slack_Rox Jan 10 19:15:18 AcidChild: why, or just choice ? Jan 10 19:15:24 * slackem Jan 10 19:15:32 well u asked for it Jan 10 19:15:38 well ya Jan 10 19:15:43 i am saying thx :) Jan 10 19:15:45 phrag, well. Jan 10 19:15:50 coz i got this laptop. Jan 10 19:15:51 i can tell it worked by the chipped tooth Jan 10 19:15:54 and it wanted somthing on it Jan 10 19:16:03 quick Jan 10 19:16:10 but i am doing LFS based on slackware :D Jan 10 19:16:17 <-- Done (~konmpoz@ppp15-ax.noc.teithe.gr) has left ##slackware Jan 10 19:16:53 oh, nice Jan 10 19:16:53 ~\o/~ \o/ Jan 10 19:16:54 at work our network is all novell so novell linux desktop fits the environment Jan 10 19:16:54 ~\o/~ \o/ (*)`\o/`(*) Jan 10 19:16:54 ROFL!! Jan 10 19:17:10 =/ Jan 10 19:17:13 i hate suse Jan 10 19:17:19 i feel so diry using it Jan 10 19:17:26 i like novell so i'll use suse now Jan 10 19:17:28 What's with all the AOLness? Jan 10 19:17:39 Ya know.. I hate people who say "Linux still has it's problems" Jan 10 19:17:40 ROFL. Jan 10 19:17:47 * AthlonRob was wondering if he landed in an AOL Chat Room Jan 10 19:17:50 pffttt Jan 10 19:17:51 then you ask them "explain to me one that you know of that's a security issue in comparison to windows" Jan 10 19:17:54 slackware rules Jan 10 19:17:55 then you get dead silence. Jan 10 19:17:56 end of story Jan 10 19:17:57 Dominian: Linux still has it's problems. :-) Jan 10 19:18:04 --> DexterF (~dexter@pD9FF2404.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:18:05 Alan_Hicks: youd idn't let me finish :P Jan 10 19:18:05 hi Jan 10 19:18:21 Alan_Hicks: In comparison to Windows security issues... name off one that's a bigger threat in Linux. Jan 10 19:18:21 say "aye" if u think slackware rules? Jan 10 19:18:22 All OS's have their problems. Jan 10 19:18:25 Aye!! Jan 10 19:18:36 --> fskn (~chino@pcp09995929pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:18:47 omg u people dont think slackware rules. Jan 10 19:18:48 :o Jan 10 19:18:49 cant i install mac .bin's ? Jan 10 19:18:55 ... Jan 10 19:18:57 uhh no Jan 10 19:19:06 mac != linux Jan 10 19:19:14 PPC != x86 Jan 10 19:19:20 oh Jan 10 19:19:23 somebody here using the 2.6.10 kernel and k3b 0.11.17 from current? can't write data dvds anymore, get: unable to PREVENT MEDIA REMOVAL: Operation not permitted Jan 10 19:19:27 brb got to do my colect my washing from around my room OMG Jan 10 19:19:29 i thought mac could run on x86 ? Jan 10 19:19:29 AcidChild: Stop acting like a noob with all this "OMG u ppl dont think slackware is da bomb" stuff. Jan 10 19:19:36 DexterF: I think you need 0.11.18 Jan 10 19:19:38 Alan_Hicks, sssshh. Jan 10 19:19:47 fskn, Darwin, the kernel, can run on x86 somewhat... but OS X cannot run on x86 Jan 10 19:19:50 Dominian: ok, ill try Jan 10 19:19:56 i am alowed. Jan 10 19:20:04 i am 15 and on drugs Jan 10 19:20:17 AthlonRob: Why do you want to run OS X on x86? Jan 10 19:20:19 fskn: there's an emulator called PearPC which can run MacOSX to a certain degree tho Jan 10 19:20:37 Alan_Hicks, I've heard OS X is a nice OS... Apple hardware is expensive... :-) Jan 10 19:20:38 i just wanted to run mac version of ie Jan 10 19:20:41 I've actually heard good (and bad of course) things about PearPC. Jan 10 19:20:44 <-- MacGuyver_ has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 19:20:45 AthlonRob: oh they are nice Jan 10 19:20:53 AthlonRob: G5 notebooks.. I drool over Jan 10 19:20:57 AthlonRob: You heard right. Jan 10 19:21:00 apple is pushing out a inexpensive hw now soon Jan 10 19:21:08 AcidChild: grow up. quit drugs. Jan 10 19:21:10 fskn: I'll believe it when I see it Jan 10 19:21:18 they think it will have a market becuase of there ipod doin so well Jan 10 19:21:22 fskn: You read Cringley's idea about pushing commodity Apple hardware at a loss? Jan 10 19:21:23 A $500 Apple is tempting Jan 10 19:21:29 well the ipod doesn't = a PC Jan 10 19:21:35 yea you guys read the article Jan 10 19:21:43 heh we read everything Jan 10 19:21:50 well they said they didn't believe in anything being cheap Jan 10 19:21:53 DexterF, I waz kidding Jan 10 19:21:57 man pfftt. Jan 10 19:21:57 lol Jan 10 19:22:06 AthlonRob: Fly over here and you can play with my iBook for free. :^) Jan 10 19:22:23 but if I fly over there, I'm out like $400 right off the bat Jan 10 19:22:45 I like 'em Jan 10 19:22:46 maybe when I'm down in the area this June for that TDY :-) Jan 10 19:22:52 I think they are sweet machines.. but I'm not shelling out the cash for them either Jan 10 19:22:56 Sure thing. Jan 10 19:23:22 G5 notebooks are quiet too Jan 10 19:23:31 Alan_Hicks, is your notebook a G3 or G4? Jan 10 19:23:37 Dominian: The iBooks aren't really that expensive. They're at a comporable cost with anything but the uber lowe end Dells. Jan 10 19:23:40 <-- three_11 has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 10 19:23:44 Dominian: Are no G5 notebooks. Jan 10 19:23:46 Alan_Hicks: ahh Jan 10 19:23:49 AthlonRob: 800Mhz G4. Jan 10 19:23:52 Alan_Hicks: well G4.. I know what I meant lol Jan 10 19:23:53 Nice, okay Jan 10 19:24:16 This 12" iBook gets a minimum of 4 hours battery life in constant use. Jan 10 19:24:29 I'm lucky to get two hours out of this thing now Jan 10 19:24:36 it's almost two years old now, though Jan 10 19:24:47 <-- buzzedlightyear has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 19:24:49 no, I think it's OVER two years old now Jan 10 19:25:07 I'm lucky to get 20mins out of mine Jan 10 19:25:20 it's been to Mississippi and back, too... shipped, on a plane, dropped, etc... it's been abused Jan 10 19:26:42 <-- Shuren has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 19:27:00 --> Rodrix (~t7DS@200.230.116.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:27:04 <-- Rodrix (~t7DS@200.230.116.10) has left ##slackware Jan 10 19:27:56 "can i open a bank account?" "yes, one min plz" *tapping on keybaord* "computer says no" Jan 10 19:27:58 hehe Jan 10 19:28:17 lil briton RULES \o/ Jan 10 19:28:30 it does Jan 10 19:28:34 :)) Jan 10 19:28:44 phrag, "computer says no" Jan 10 19:28:46 What in tarnation is lil briton? Jan 10 19:29:02 comedy program Jan 10 19:29:11 --> Shuren (~Devilman@host167-171.pool8256.interbusiness.it) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:29:15 * AthlonRob thinks we need to get AcidChild an AOL account Jan 10 19:29:26 heh Jan 10 19:29:29 Oo Jan 10 19:29:35 how about stfu AthlonRob :) Jan 10 19:29:36 --> lozlap (awx@82.76.44.123) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:29:41 * Alan_Hicks thinks we need to get AcidChild into rehab or special learning. Jan 10 19:29:47 true Jan 10 19:29:49 how do i do that /etcx/localtime thing so i can update the time Jan 10 19:29:49 ? Jan 10 19:29:49 calm down a bit AcidChild please Jan 10 19:29:54 <-- dngr has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 19:29:56 and do not tell users to stfu Jan 10 19:30:14 phrag, but man what am i ment to do when this guy keeps talking... Jan 10 19:30:16 j/k :) Jan 10 19:30:24 lozlap: What exactly do you mean? Jan 10 19:30:33 --> dngr (~dngr@dsl-200-67-143-98.prod-empresarial.com.mx) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:30:34 --> newbie^ (0@81.213.137.151) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:30:34 --- nixor sets ban on *!0@* Jan 10 19:30:35 <-- nixor has kicked newbie^ from ##slackware (banned: It is very dangerous to IRC as root. Please return under a user account.) Jan 10 19:30:35 --> StevenR (~foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:30:47 Hi Steven Jan 10 19:31:00 i want to use ntpdate time.nist.gov Jan 10 19:31:00 AthlonRob: Wrong channel. :-P Jan 10 19:31:03 evening AthlonRob Jan 10 19:31:09 phrag -:||:- http://www.foofoo.co.uk/modules.php?set_albumName=Ash&id=Mattslouandandy&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php Jan 10 19:31:10 but it does not corectly updates the time Jan 10 19:31:11 :( Jan 10 19:31:14 nuh-uh, Alan_Hicks, he's here too :-) Jan 10 19:31:15 Oops. :-) I'm an asshat everyone. Jan 10 19:31:37 lozlap: So what happens when you run that? Jan 10 19:31:51 Alan_Hicks it updates a incorrect time Jan 10 19:32:09 lozlap: So it gives you something in the wrong timezone? Jan 10 19:32:22 no Jan 10 19:32:32 eermm. Jan 10 19:32:35 weird. Jan 10 19:32:35 cam i have that paste link ? Jan 10 19:32:36 * AthlonRob thinks Alan_Hicks has far more patience than I at the moment Jan 10 19:32:45 http://axpr.net Jan 10 19:32:56 damn, Alan_Hicks, typing my own URL faster than me :-P Jan 10 19:33:00 * Alan_Hicks is the king of patience. Jan 10 19:33:07 Dominian: .18 didnt help. bugger. Jan 10 19:33:19 * Alan_Hicks is the king of speedy fingers too. Jan 10 19:33:31 one needs patience in here sometimes Jan 10 19:33:46 *sigh* Jan 10 19:33:58 http://axpr.net/?show=106 Jan 10 19:34:21 does fdisk have somthing to resize a partition? Jan 10 19:34:27 or is that parted? Jan 10 19:34:36 AcidChild : fdisk only creates and destroys partitions Jan 10 19:34:41 kk Jan 10 19:34:43 --> althalus (~althalus@c-67-170-176-30.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:34:59 can i resize a partion i am using? Jan 10 19:35:09 hmm, on slack10 disk it says NEW! Optional high-eperformance 2.6.7 Linux Kernel upgrade included Jan 10 19:35:14 so any help ? Jan 10 19:35:49 evening phrag Jan 10 19:36:03 think 2.6.7 was included as it was the 2.6 stable at the time, or that pat actually considered 2.6.7 specifically stable enough Jan 10 19:36:10 how do StevenR =) Jan 10 19:36:23 lozlap, what does time-update do? Jan 10 19:36:38 lozlap: Never run into anything like that before. Have you tried a different ntp server, like pool.ntp.org? Jan 10 19:36:51 <-- Caveman has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 19:37:19 ananke: care to comment ? Jan 10 19:37:41 I'm confused, I've never seen "w" output like that before Jan 10 19:37:57 <-- fskn has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 19:38:39 <-- At0mic_PC has quit ("Client exciting") Jan 10 19:38:50 --- nixor removes ban on *!root@* Jan 10 19:39:17 Alan_Hicks it was something with cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Bucharest /etc/localtime Jan 10 19:39:23 thx anyway solved my problem Jan 10 19:39:24 google Jan 10 19:39:26 actually, that was a question aboce, despite the lack of ? Jan 10 19:39:44 s/aboce/above Jan 10 19:40:03 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Toronto-ppp296109.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:40:05 <-- Ahil (~Ahil@213.240.224.47) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 10 19:40:07 ok, k3b issue closer to resolving: as root everything works fine. Jan 10 19:40:39 <-- seberino__ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 19:41:19 lozlap: Google knows all. What was the matter? Jan 10 19:41:59 <-- lozlap has quit ("!") Jan 10 19:42:06 I usually symlink /etc/localtime Jan 10 19:42:07 * phrag takes ignorance on the chin Jan 10 19:42:14 <-- spacey`ki has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 19:42:23 <_erik> pats kernels include just about everything but the kitchen sink, good for booting/installing on just about any machine. after that i pull a fresh one from kernel.org and build it with only the stuff i need. and the 2.6's have been rock solid for me on several machines. Jan 10 19:42:38 same for me, _erik Jan 10 19:42:55 although Pat's 2.4 kernels never worked on a few boxes of mine Jan 10 19:42:56 * Alan_Hicks isn't a 2.6 fan. Jan 10 19:42:56 _erik: thankyou very much, nice of someone to reply =) Jan 10 19:43:14 phrag, if I had to guess, I'd say he used 2.6.7 because it was what was 2.6 stable at the time Jan 10 19:43:38 Yeah, Alan_Hicks, we know... we'll get you converted soon enough, though :-) Jan 10 19:43:43 I must have missed something. What's the 2.6.7 question? Jan 10 19:44:02 think 2.6.7 was included as it was the 2.6 stable at the time, or that pat actually considered 2.6.7 specifically stable enough Jan 10 19:44:29 i missed ?.... my bad, looked like a statement =P Jan 10 19:44:41 --> maddler (~maddler@195.110.158.19) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:44:45 It was what was latest at the time, and reasonably stable enough. Had security fixes over earlier releases and Pat doesn't like patching the kernel. Jan 10 19:44:59 thankyou Jan 10 19:45:11 2.6.10 then when router comes Jan 10 19:45:13 --> spacey`ki (~ki@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:45:14 2.4.27 at the moment Jan 10 19:45:52 I'll be moving to 2.6 after there's a stability release in 2.6 _after_ 2.7 comes out, or when the kernel devs get their heads on straight and stop breaking shit. Jan 10 19:45:56 --> spacey_ki (~ki@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:46:08 hmm Jan 10 19:46:24 <-- avoca has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 19:46:30 2.6.10 is nice Jan 10 19:46:35 s/on straight/out of their asses/ Jan 10 19:46:43 2.6 has quite some quality issues, huh? Jan 10 19:46:46 course ive been running 2.6.x pretty much every release since 2.6.1 Jan 10 19:46:53 sadsfae: breaks dvd writing here Jan 10 19:46:55 DexterF: IMHO, definately. Jan 10 19:47:05 DexterF, well yah and cdwriting i have to do as root Jan 10 19:47:16 cdrecord still doesn't work for mortal users for example. Jan 10 19:47:17 other than that, i have no issues Jan 10 19:47:17 --> spacey`lap (~ki@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:47:19 <-- spacey`ki has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 19:47:20 I, too, have been running 2.6 without any problems... their development model seems to be working for me, anyway Jan 10 19:47:21 <-- spacey`lap has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 19:47:22 the new security issues, the disc writing woes, other little annoyances... Jan 10 19:47:27 i've never ran it, nor udev which i will when i go 2.6 Jan 10 19:47:46 <_erik> burning was fixed in 2.6.9 (and wasn't all that big of a problem, some tools still worked as non-root, like cdrdao) Jan 10 19:47:53 DexterF, other than cdwriting i havent had any issues and performance is noticeably better than 2.4.x Jan 10 19:47:53 DexterF: In all fairness, a few of the recently discovered vulnerabilities for 2.6 affect 2.4 as well. Jan 10 19:48:04 --> mykilx (mykilx@wbar10.tmp1-4-12-150-251.dsl-verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:48:04 --> okmeufilho (cxvvxcvdsf@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:48:26 _erik: You sure? I'll ahve to check that. I thought it was still SNAFUd. Jan 10 19:48:34 since im going to get me a dvb-t card soon i'll eventually have to go bleeding edge, so they better root out those disc write issues. root out, heh. Jan 10 19:48:42 Alan_Hicks: I use 2.6.9.. burning works great Jan 10 19:48:46 Alan_Hicks: true, yes. Jan 10 19:49:00 it isnt an issue Jan 10 19:49:03 Then my apologies. Jan 10 19:49:03 <_erik> no, it's fine. like i said, it wasn't even a real problem (well, burning audio cd's were a problem for some reason) Jan 10 19:49:05 oi Jan 10 19:49:07 :D Jan 10 19:49:16 sadsfae: ok, performance is usually better. not xine tho. eats 30% cpu where it took 15 or less on 2.4 Jan 10 19:49:17 been drinking some beer Jan 10 19:49:17 its one maintainers stubborn reliance in adhereing to some security thing Jan 10 19:49:20 <_erik> which was only in 2.6.8(.1) Jan 10 19:49:31 DexterF, why use xine? its a pos compared to mplayer Jan 10 19:49:35 first day of school and me and my buddy worked so hard so we celebrated with beer Jan 10 19:49:35 hehe Jan 10 19:49:45 ... Jan 10 19:49:51 <_erik> early on i went back to 2.4 for about 2 weeks, was like slamming into a brick wall Jan 10 19:49:52 sadsfae: xine is good Jan 10 19:49:54 tewmten: In class of course, right? Jan 10 19:49:55 even if you don't like it Jan 10 19:50:05 troll Jan 10 19:50:08 sure, but i just prefer mplayer Jan 10 19:50:16 and did you compile xine from source or was it binary package Jan 10 19:50:24 yeah sure.. like whatever you want. just don't bash what you don't like Jan 10 19:50:25 sadsfae: i see it exactly the other way round. mplayer makes me hurl. Jan 10 19:50:25 Alan_Hicks: he had found a nice place with cheap good beer, so we went there right after school Jan 10 19:50:26 <_erik> especially if you got p4+ht, smt and elevator scheduler enabled.. mmm Jan 10 19:50:32 --> ceL0ry (cel@69-165-57-90.clvdoh.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:50:36 <-- ceL0ry (cel@69-165-57-90.clvdoh.adelphia.net) has left ##slackware Jan 10 19:50:40 --> ceL0ry (cel@69-165-57-90.clvdoh.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:51:05 DexterF, compile mplayer from source, use --cache 8129 and it outperforms any media player ive ever used by a long shot Jan 10 19:51:14 i dont like the have-to-have-gui-front-end for xine Jan 10 19:51:19 gonna get some dinner now Jan 10 19:51:20 bye Jan 10 19:51:36 <-- Frank-Drebin has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 19:51:40 sadsfae: aaxine :P Jan 10 19:51:56 i rebooted a minute ago due to ls, rm, etc was segmentation faulting when i tried to run it, after i rebooted and tried to boot the same kernel i was using (2.6.9) it hangs at proc on /proc type proc (rw) and won't go any farther, what could it be? Jan 10 19:52:02 fred87: Nice of you to join us. Jan 10 19:52:11 ? Jan 10 19:52:16 ceL0ry, bad media? faulty ram? Jan 10 19:52:21 sadsfae: yeah. as long as you don't use the gui. then it takes the power of jesus to perform acceptable. that is - if the gui didn't segfault because you pressed a button on it or so. Jan 10 19:52:21 <_erik> mplayer's great, will play damn near anything. gotta fall back to xine once in a while, for dvd menus Jan 10 19:52:28 fred87: Just saying "Howdy" in a different way. Jan 10 19:52:33 --> viLeR (~miv@aurora.telesat.com.co) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:52:37 sadsfae: isn't it intresting that mplayer can't even switch subtitles or audio tracks on the fly ? Jan 10 19:52:38 :) Jan 10 19:52:43 sadsfae: and that mplayer doesn't even know dvd menus Jan 10 19:52:44 i dont own a dvd player so guess thats why i never use it Jan 10 19:52:49 sadsfae, bad media? its not faulty ram i booted a livecd and it ran fine Jan 10 19:52:51 nor do i Jan 10 19:53:01 i mounted the partition and tried ./ls in it and it would still segfault Jan 10 19:53:08 alan_hicks, i feel guitly... ordered new wireless card, second seagate barracuda, and GeForceFX 6800 today :| Jan 10 19:53:09 i love mplayer, but still think xine has its good points Jan 10 19:53:11 mako-sama, why the mplayer h8? i didnt say anythig about dvd's Jan 10 19:53:18 fred87: You bad boy! Jan 10 19:53:18 <-- schlm has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 19:53:26 was talking about general media playback, and mplayer kicks ass at that Jan 10 19:53:28 that's what my debit card's saying Jan 10 19:53:43 sadsfae: tell me one medium mplayer can play xine can't. Jan 10 19:53:47 sadsfae: just for you to note, i don't even have xine installed. mplayer is perfect for me Jan 10 19:53:48 you remind me of that alleged gnome/DLgnome dev that freaked out when i said gnome is slow and clunky Jan 10 19:53:57 <_erik> wmv9dmo Jan 10 19:54:06 <_erik> rstp streams Jan 10 19:54:14 DexterF, raw avi streams Jan 10 19:54:18 dexgt Jan 10 19:54:30 now.. xine isn't perfect Jan 10 19:54:34 and so is mplayer Jan 10 19:54:45 <_erik> x264 Jan 10 19:54:46 <_erik> snow Jan 10 19:54:55 i personally prefer mplayer, but i'd get pissed if i see someone bashing xine Jan 10 19:54:55 DexterF, or a file thats half downloaded, like say a .ok extention, but yet to be fully copied and renamed, mplayer will play those, i havent been able to get xine to Jan 10 19:55:07 rstp streams is real's bloody business. if they think they have to hide the actual url in some wrapper file, it's not xine's or anyone elses fault but theirs it wont work. providing xine with the real rstp url btw works *just fine* Jan 10 19:55:09 i didnt bash anythuing i said i prefer mplayer over xine, and i dont care for xine Jan 10 19:55:11 so what Jan 10 19:55:15 <_erik> lots of great expermintal codecs that outperform mpeg4(divx/xvid/etc) by a long shot. no support at all in xine Jan 10 19:55:24 if that makes you mad i hate to see what happens when soemeting that matters happens.. like your car catches on fire Jan 10 19:55:25 sadsfae: xine plays half done vids fine here Jan 10 19:55:29 or your daughter gets knockd up Jan 10 19:55:30 heh Jan 10 19:55:36 <-- ceL0ry (cel@69-165-57-90.clvdoh.adelphia.net) has left ##slackware Jan 10 19:55:52 _erik: what do i need codecs for nobody uses? Jan 10 19:55:56 sadsfae: what ? you want me scroll up and paste you when you said that xine is POS ? Jan 10 19:56:10 nope, i said its a piece of shit? does that really make you angry? Jan 10 19:56:21 <-- nirz has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 19:56:35 _erik: and what is wmv9dmo supposed to be? Jan 10 19:56:49 <_erik> windows media with drm Jan 10 19:57:04 <_erik> rtsp is live.com btw, not real Jan 10 19:57:13 btw mplayer for windows isnt half bad either Jan 10 19:57:18 sadsfae: so if i was a xine developer, you wouldn't expect me to get angry when you say xine is pos ? Jan 10 19:57:32 <-- blackhat-- has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 10 19:57:48 <_erik> rtsp:// isn't a wrapper file, it's a transport protocol Jan 10 19:57:49 no i would expect any normal human being to understnad its possible for someone not to like their product for whatever reason, and it doenst have to make sense to you Jan 10 19:58:17 if i make spaghetti ... and you dont like it? do i cry? Jan 10 19:58:27 not liking is one thing, and saying POS is another Jan 10 19:58:31 nah, i just shrug it off and say its becuase some ppl have different tastes Jan 10 19:59:05 Could we stop the "my penis is bigger than yours 'cause I use xine|mplayer" stuff already? Jan 10 19:59:17 xine is a pos, i dont like it Jan 10 19:59:20 :( Jan 10 19:59:30 _erik: rtsp is a general protocol both real and live.com seem to use. couldnt care less - it works. Jan 10 19:59:35 <-- tbird (1000@pcp09788624pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net) has left ##slackware Jan 10 19:59:46 --> newbie^ (1000@81.213.137.151) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 19:59:57 Fair enough. Everyone's got their opinion and no one else here really cares what you two think of mplayer, xine, and each other. Take it elsewhere, like PMs. Jan 10 19:59:57 afk Jan 10 20:00:02 and .rm usualy contains a rtsp link - thats a wrapper to me Jan 10 20:00:10 or .ram or wtf ever Jan 10 20:00:17 i was done talking about it like 50 lines of text ago Jan 10 20:00:30 sigh Jan 10 20:00:31 hi friends i live some problems i use slackware, i cant hear voice from my xmms.. i wanna play mp3s =( ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No such file or directory Jan 10 20:00:35 what can i do? Jan 10 20:00:35 =( Jan 10 20:00:40 <-- OutpourDCC has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 20:00:47 newbie^: set permissions on your sound device Jan 10 20:00:53 check juhl's faq Jan 10 20:00:55 --> Outpour (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:01:05 The Book really needs a section on sound... Jan 10 20:01:05 i use kernel 2.6.10 Jan 10 20:01:10 (unless outdated) Jan 10 20:01:13 i cant hear as i were root Jan 10 20:01:15 doesnt matter Jan 10 20:01:16 too DexterF Jan 10 20:01:26 cant hear or didnt play? Jan 10 20:01:30 didnt play? Jan 10 20:01:35 i couldnt play Jan 10 20:01:46 same error? sound card properly conf'ed? Jan 10 20:01:49 newbie^: have you recompiled alsa when you installed the new kernel ? Jan 10 20:02:21 mako-sama, okay now im removing alsa than i ll install it again but Jan 10 20:02:31 --> MANOWAR^ (~MANOWAR^@druid.cse.sc.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:02:40 i dont know how can configure that Jan 10 20:02:42 newbie^, before you do that Jan 10 20:02:44 newbie^, do this Jan 10 20:02:50 newbie^, as root chmod 777 /dev/dsp Jan 10 20:02:55 chmod 777 /dev/mixer Jan 10 20:03:00 chmod 777 /dev/pcm Jan 10 20:03:03 then try Jan 10 20:03:23 there is no mixer directory on there.. Jan 10 20:03:23 newbie^: Before doing that, are you running in runlevel 3 or 4? Jan 10 20:03:31 if u can play audio as root but not normal user thats why, if you dont have those dev entries then go with mako-sama recommendation Jan 10 20:03:31 3 Jan 10 20:03:34 you need to recompile alsa.. you really didn't expect the old modules to work with the new kernel. right ? :) Jan 10 20:03:40 newbie^, do you have /dev/dsp Jan 10 20:03:42 --> ndev (~naren@jffwpr07.jf.intel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:03:44 Then there's no need to chmod anything. Jan 10 20:03:44 no Jan 10 20:03:47 --> fskn (~chino@pcp09995929pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:03:49 ok then nvm Jan 10 20:03:50 i dont have that directories Jan 10 20:04:20 root@kaoxgen:/mnt/hard1/mp3archive/favourite# ls /dev/dsp Jan 10 20:04:20 ls: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory Jan 10 20:04:28 how do i remove a line from output ? im using cut to get a field but there is one empty line on top what other command could i use to only get the last line of the output ? Jan 10 20:04:31 expected. Jan 10 20:04:36 then disregard what i said and go with prev. recommendations Jan 10 20:04:49 fskn: Go to http://axpr.net and show us exactly what you mean. Jan 10 20:04:52 fskn: tail -n 1 Jan 10 20:04:56 oya tail Jan 10 20:05:13 you guys are great Jan 10 20:05:27 root@Linux:/home/silence/public_html# ls -lh | cut -f 6 -d " " Jan 10 20:05:27 639K Jan 10 20:05:29 thats what i ment Jan 10 20:05:40 Oh ok. Jan 10 20:05:43 --> tbird (1000@pcp09788624pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:05:45 brb.. smoke run Jan 10 20:05:49 theres one line above the 639K because of total line from ls -lh Jan 10 20:06:03 mako-sama, where can i find alsa source for recompile it? Jan 10 20:06:05 639K? Jan 10 20:06:10 size of file Jan 10 20:06:12 ls -lh Jan 10 20:06:13 Hold up a second, Alan, he's not pasting 639K at axpr.net :-P Jan 10 20:06:14 i searched on google there are different sources=( Jan 10 20:06:24 newbie^, its probably a binary package so you would need to get alsa sources from /source dir on FTP or alsa site Jan 10 20:06:28 which one is suitable for my 2.6.10 kernel Jan 10 20:06:32 newbie^: alsa-sound.org or osmthing like that Jan 10 20:06:36 okay Jan 10 20:06:36 --> seberino (~seberino@seberino.spawar.navy.mil) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:06:37 not sure :p Jan 10 20:06:50 AthlonRob: You shouldn't make it publically available then! Jan 10 20:06:50 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 20:06:55 newbie^, newest will be fine, just make sure to "removepkg" your older alsa packages Jan 10 20:07:04 is there a while loop ? Jan 10 20:07:07 ok Jan 10 20:07:12 im removing that Jan 10 20:07:26 --> Outpour (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:07:34 newbie^: it's alsa-project.org Jan 10 20:07:34 newbie^, you can get packages from slackware.com Jan 10 20:07:44 Alan_Hicks, it's moving to the new server when it's up..... Jan 10 20:07:52 AthlonRob: That's fine. Jan 10 20:08:00 Polleke: not for linux 2.6.10 Jan 10 20:08:00 :-) Jan 10 20:08:28 no? Did Pat did not make them yet? Jan 10 20:08:47 Polleke: Nope. Jan 10 20:09:13 ah k, well newbie^ grab the source package and use the slackbuild script from the slackware source Jan 10 20:09:35 make sure you also have the kernel source package installed Jan 10 20:09:42 newbie^: After modifying the SlackBuild to tell it what kernel version to use. Jan 10 20:09:58 im getting tgz files from slackware's ftp Jan 10 20:10:04 than i ll install them Jan 10 20:10:07 you don't need to Alan_Hicks Jan 10 20:10:08 heh Jan 10 20:10:24 Polleke: Really? I thought you did. Well I be derned. Jan 10 20:10:26 Alan_Hicks, it's building based on the kernel headers Jan 10 20:10:37 newbie^, what exactly are you downloading? Jan 10 20:11:11 yep Jan 10 20:11:12 =P Jan 10 20:11:41 wget yep Jan 10 20:12:06 hehe Jan 10 20:12:35 mehhh, it doesn't work phrag. Plzzzz help me Jan 10 20:12:42 heh Jan 10 20:13:37 there s not packet like alsa-utils on slackware's ftp i was remove that too Jan 10 20:14:14 newbie^, _what_ are you downloading? Jan 10 20:14:32 alsa lib alsa driver and alsa oss Jan 10 20:14:33 you need the kernel source package from 2.6.10 Jan 10 20:14:34 packets.. Jan 10 20:14:46 i have that Jan 10 20:14:52 i compiled that.. Jan 10 20:14:59 will i add something as module? Jan 10 20:15:07 talk to me Polleke hit me Jan 10 20:15:16 ahhh, you did not install a binary kernel Jan 10 20:15:22 --> three_11 (~three_11@69-163-15-87.kntnny.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:15:31 i used menuconfig Jan 10 20:15:33 then, you can just compile the ALSA modules from the kernel source, they are included Jan 10 20:15:40 anyone know a good tutorial for setting up a printer? Jan 10 20:15:45 newbie^: btw, small point but packet != package Jan 10 20:15:49 three_11: tldp Jan 10 20:15:53 ;DD Jan 10 20:15:54 tldp.org Jan 10 20:15:56 ok phrag Jan 10 20:16:04 =) Jan 10 20:16:15 newbie^, so open menuconfig and look for the alsa menu Jan 10 20:16:20 --> floppielx (~floppielx@dsl-80-46-52-225.access.as9105.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:16:29 ok Jan 10 20:16:31 there is an alsa menu in 2.6? Jan 10 20:16:33 can anyone recommend me a linux floppy based distro (similar to blueflops) which contains usb mass storage drivers? Jan 10 20:16:34 k Jan 10 20:16:34 ty Jan 10 20:16:40 welcome Jan 10 20:17:54 drivers -> sound -> alsa Jan 10 20:18:21 yeah, I'm sure you know ALSA has been included since 2.6 Jan 10 20:18:23 there soundcard support Jan 10 20:18:26 (*) Jan 10 20:18:40 oss support should be disabled Jan 10 20:18:41 floppielx: loaf ? Jan 10 20:18:46 i cant see anything about alsa Jan 10 20:18:50 <-- StevenR has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 20:18:55 <-- fskn (~chino@pcp09995929pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) has left ##slackware Jan 10 20:19:14 there are oss mixer, oss pcm Jan 10 20:19:16 floppielx: there are distributions for putting on / booting from usb fobs Jan 10 20:19:53 newbie^, grrrr, ALSA stands for "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture" Jan 10 20:19:57 I made my USB key bootable Jan 10 20:19:57 and that's in there Jan 10 20:20:00 it boots INSERT Jan 10 20:20:05 ok im on there Jan 10 20:20:40 newbie^, pick both oss ones as yes Jan 10 20:20:49 --- nixor removes ban on *!*@CPE000d88a9ac16-CM001225419a6c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com Jan 10 20:21:45 oss mixer oss pcm and oss sequencer Jan 10 20:21:48 i choosed them Jan 10 20:21:56 than i choosed my pci AC97 Jan 10 20:21:58 card too Jan 10 20:22:02 is it enouhg? Jan 10 20:22:06 --> _kop (~trillian@64-40-46-157.nocharge.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:22:12 <-- Cirkit has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 20:22:39 yes, choose that one as module Jan 10 20:22:49 ok Jan 10 20:23:20 ok, compile and install the modules. Prepare your kernel and reboot Jan 10 20:23:26 anyone got a good wine tgz to spare me the lib-hunting and compilation? Jan 10 20:23:29 dont' forget lilo -v Jan 10 20:23:30 make modules && make modules_install Jan 10 20:23:31 --> tvn (~tvn@pcp0010250125pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:23:46 --> Ava3ar (~ava3ar@user-3939.l4.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:23:58 i ll back back soon Jan 10 20:24:01 =P restarting.. Jan 10 20:24:03 <-- newbie^ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 20:24:20 sigh, he did not make Jan 10 20:24:32 <-- Reeb|zor (~mactop@pcp01339669pcs.wilog101.pa.comcast.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 10 20:24:49 we'll suggest chmod -x /sbin/shutdown Jan 10 20:24:55 <-- tvn has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 20:25:04 hehe Jan 10 20:25:18 <-- althalus has quit () Jan 10 20:25:18 Polleke: just point them to the kernel compilation tutorial on slackwiki.org Jan 10 20:25:19 --> acidkill_ (1000@user-0c90it8.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:25:29 :O Jan 10 20:25:55 <-- deckmar has quit ("brb reboot") Jan 10 20:26:43 * DexterF reboots 2.6.7 Jan 10 20:26:45 <-- DexterF has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 20:26:52 banzaii Jan 10 20:27:05 <-- floppielx (~floppielx@dsl-80-46-52-225.access.as9105.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 10 20:28:07 tewmten: tune in Jan 10 20:28:12 --> newbie^ (1000@81.213.137.151) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:28:30 ok Jan 10 20:28:35 it didnt worked man it gives me the same error, ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No such file or directory Jan 10 20:28:42 url again? I'm a bit alcoholized.. Jan 10 20:28:48 <-- okmeufilho has quit ("Vision[0.9.7-SF-010705]: i've been blurred!") Jan 10 20:28:48 cant remember Jan 10 20:28:55 it doesnt play i added oss mixer pcm sequence as modu?le Jan 10 20:29:01 newbie^, did I tell you to reboot? Jan 10 20:29:04 http://phra.gs/grime Jan 10 20:29:11 i rebooted Jan 10 20:29:12 <-- acidkill has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 10 20:29:19 newbie^, and did I tell you to do so? Jan 10 20:29:23 heh Jan 10 20:29:32 i compiled Jan 10 20:29:35 modules than Jan 10 20:29:37 i rebooted Jan 10 20:29:44 phrag: gotcha Jan 10 20:29:46 did you do lilo -v before you rebooted? Jan 10 20:29:48 newbie^, you just made your modules, why would you want to reboot for modules Jan 10 20:29:48 how did u tell me? Jan 10 20:30:19 Polleke: I keep forgetting you don't need to reboot for modules lol Jan 10 20:30:27 newbie^, did you actually ever did anything with lilo? Jan 10 20:30:31 no Jan 10 20:30:34 =P Jan 10 20:30:35 im sorry Jan 10 20:30:45 ever? after you compiled your kernel? Jan 10 20:30:45 i typed lilo -v Jan 10 20:30:46 now Jan 10 20:30:52 no ididnt Jan 10 20:30:53 phrag: hm, something doesn't sound right.. Jan 10 20:31:04 phrag: I forgot to turn up the bass, it was down all low :-| Jan 10 20:31:05 newbie^, then you never started to run your new kernel Jan 10 20:31:06 --> crackerjack (1000@ip5452b530.speed.planet.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:31:07 tewmten: phrag is actually streaming his farts to the 'Net now Jan 10 20:31:08 heh Jan 10 20:31:11 newbie^, do uname -r Jan 10 20:31:22 root@kaoxgen:/usr/src# uname -r Jan 10 20:31:23 2.6.10 Jan 10 20:31:37 --> assdebuger (~assdebuge@200.171.26.251) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:31:37 phrag: I thought about streaming a web cam.. that all it is ... live shots of a toilet Jan 10 20:31:50 class Jan 10 20:31:54 oh yeah Jan 10 20:32:01 phrag: make the meta search tags all porn. Jan 10 20:32:04 then you did copy your kernel image to /boot and runned lilo once newbie^ Jan 10 20:32:06 see how much hate mail I'd get Jan 10 20:32:10 of course Jan 10 20:32:11 <-- assdebuger (~assdebuge@200.171.26.251) has left ##slackware Jan 10 20:32:16 i did them Jan 10 20:32:23 i added my kernel to lilo.conf Jan 10 20:32:43 newbie^, now. Do make in your kernel source Jan 10 20:33:24 Polleke, i choosed oss mixer and sequence as module Jan 10 20:33:30 do i need it? Jan 10 20:33:39 i did make modules && make modules_install Jan 10 20:34:03 no you don't need a sequencer. And I said to compile the oss stuff into the kernel Jan 10 20:34:15 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 20:34:18 yeah! Jan 10 20:34:22 mike skinner Jan 10 20:34:44 and do 'make' it will generate your kernel (why o why did they remove bzImage from the Makefile) Jan 10 20:34:55 kelvin schmelvin am well within my limit, hold on these mushrooms just kicked in.. Jan 10 20:34:55 Polleke: I don't think they did.. Jan 10 20:34:57 *nanana* Jan 10 20:35:05 Polleke: actually... bzImage and modules are all part of make now Jan 10 20:35:12 iirc Jan 10 20:35:26 Dominian, haven't tried 2.6.10, running 2.6.9. But heard they removed bzImage Jan 10 20:35:40 u heard wrong Jan 10 20:35:43 there is bzimage Jan 10 20:35:43 Polleke: probably did Jan 10 20:35:51 --> padx (~padx@80-219-27-84.dclient.hispeed.ch) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:35:51 it is only too late, my body was trying to say 'you better stop drinking brandy' Jan 10 20:35:57 *nananan* Jan 10 20:35:57 newbie^, ok, do: make bzImage Jan 10 20:35:59 and problem is not about sequence and i installed oss and mixer Jan 10 20:36:11 --> chemfire (~0a080e0f@zeus.bw.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:36:33 root@kaoxgen:/usr/src/linux-2.6.10/arch/i386/boot# ls bzImage Jan 10 20:36:35 bzImage Jan 10 20:36:52 --> Marverick (~slack4eve@201.11.181.42) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:37:23 newbie^, no, 'make bzImage'. Ofcourse that file is present, you compiled before. We want to recreate it to add the new changes Jan 10 20:37:45 it s making automatic like 2.6.9 u dont need type make bzimage Jan 10 20:37:48 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Ottawa-ppp323880.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:37:56 and it s not about our problem Jan 10 20:38:23 newbie^, help yourself. Seems like you all know it better. I've other stuff to do Jan 10 20:38:43 <-- kopcicle has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 20:38:52 thank u for helping Polleke but we couldnt do it.. Jan 10 20:39:03 i added needed modules Jan 10 20:39:09 if you would just listen... Jan 10 20:39:41 Polleke: Take heed what I suggested earlier hehe Jan 10 20:40:13 Polleke, u are newbie like me Jan 10 20:40:15 =P Jan 10 20:40:16 --> spenser (~spenser@user-0c8hmse.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:40:21 i cant help me.. Jan 10 20:40:29 i need a \guru\ Jan 10 20:41:05 newbie^: Umm Polleke can actually get his kernel to work. Jan 10 20:41:13 whatever newbie^. http://slackwiki.org/Kernel_Compilation Jan 10 20:42:27 <-- noise has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041107]") Jan 10 20:43:02 anyone know what the " is in html markup off the top their head? :-) Jan 10 20:43:21 eh Jan 10 20:43:24 it's a quote Jan 10 20:43:27 that's all it is Jan 10 20:43:38 You mean "? Jan 10 20:43:51 that might be it :-) thanks Dagmar Jan 10 20:43:55 So far as I know it's not necessary to use the entity for that. Jan 10 20:44:20 --> Frank-Drebin (1000@adsl-223-99-138.aep.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:44:27 eh Jan 10 20:44:28 I misunderstood Jan 10 20:44:41 You have to use them for greater-than (>), less-than (<), and ampersand (&) for obvious reasons, but nothing else really. Jan 10 20:44:51 yeah Jan 10 20:45:08 need it for this input form :-) Jan 10 20:45:10 works too, thanks Jan 10 20:45:24 well, it's clean to have copyright signs and reletated as entity aswell Jan 10 20:45:53 --> frogger^ (redmonkey@J23ee.j.pppool.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:47:04 --> poolio (~poolio@pcp279080pcs.owngsm01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:47:41 --> thr1ce (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:47:52 <-- MANOWAR^ has quit ("Jesus is coming! Hide the PORN.") Jan 10 20:48:16 what is the current update for today...? Jan 10 20:48:48 Santa Clause isn't coming to tow Jan 10 20:48:50 n Jan 10 20:49:58 my second questin is about dropline gnome.. when i started to X as root, on the desktop i can see icons but when i started it as a user i couldnt see icons.. i tried installpkg /var/cache/dropline-installer/* as root but i didnt work Jan 10 20:50:02 how can i fix it Jan 10 20:50:19 No support for dropline here...that I know of. Jan 10 20:50:24 newbie^, dropline isn't supported here Jan 10 20:50:33 try #dropline Jan 10 20:50:54 <-- Frank-Drebin has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 20:51:26 <-- duardo has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 20:52:09 blat blat Jan 10 20:52:23 phrag, am i missing a -current update today...? Jan 10 20:52:29 mine still says jan 3 =\ Jan 10 20:52:37 was there a change to the changelog? Jan 10 20:52:41 no Jan 10 20:52:44 --> eelriverlt (~murph@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:52:46 according to /topic Jan 10 20:52:51 last change was Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC Jan 10 20:52:56 thr1ce: than you aren't missing anything Jan 10 20:53:11 what was it? Jan 10 20:53:15 * Alan_Hicks wonders back in after eating and burps. Jan 10 20:53:25 kdebindings... Jan 10 20:53:29 <-- frogger^ has quit () Jan 10 20:53:30 bittornado was updated in /extra Jan 10 20:53:31 is pat on a different time zone? Jan 10 20:53:38 and taglib Jan 10 20:53:43 PST Jan 10 20:53:44 thr1ce: he's in California... Jan 10 20:53:45 ok...think i've got them Jan 10 20:53:48 so.. PST Jan 10 20:53:50 Pat Simple Time Jan 10 20:53:55 hehe Jan 10 20:53:57 lol Jan 10 20:54:04 erm Pat Slackware TIme i mean =P Jan 10 20:54:11 lol Jan 10 20:54:15 More like Pat's Secret Time, as in when the next release will be. Jan 10 20:54:18 bha Jan 10 20:54:24 I see Stable still hasnt' bene updated since Oct. 31 Jan 10 20:54:33 <-- solsTiCe has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 20:54:33 i translate to UTC as it is the easiest for most to work out Jan 10 20:54:46 i don't think there will be stable updates Jan 10 20:54:48 just 10.1 Jan 10 20:54:50 UTC == GMT, and most know their GMT+- Jan 10 20:54:55 phrag: while you're at it.. translate it to UTC and a 24 hour time table.. really mess with people Jan 10 20:54:56 yeah Jan 10 20:55:00 thr1ce: You may be right. Jan 10 20:55:09 <-- poolio has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 10 20:55:21 thr1ce: no.. its in his interest to update stable as well as -current as not everyone will switch right over to 10.1 Jan 10 20:55:24 Dominian: Bah! Just put it all on the Aztec calendar. Jan 10 20:55:31 Alan_Hicks: YES! Jan 10 20:55:44 --> lockige (~rob@client-82-14-71-73.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 20:56:12 thr1ce: there are people still using 9.1 hehe Jan 10 20:56:19 eew Jan 10 20:58:22 cups is required for printing right? Jan 10 20:58:29 it helps Jan 10 20:58:53 I finally realized why it's hard for me to get another job Jan 10 20:58:53 Dominian, i'm still using 8.0 and 8.0.47 :-P Jan 10 20:59:00 so, what's the deal sandy? Jan 10 20:59:03 Most jobs want 5 years experience and I only have 3 years in the field.. BAH! Jan 10 20:59:08 fuzzbawl: for what..? Jan 10 20:59:17 fuzzbawl: oh.. slack lol Jan 10 20:59:38 hehe Jan 10 20:59:49 winblows 8.0! it's l33t! Jan 10 20:59:56 lol Jan 10 21:00:12 fuzzbawl: reminds me of a kid about 6 or 7 years ago who said he invented talk and ytalk Jan 10 21:00:14 can you use a sky plus remote on a normal digibox? Jan 10 21:00:43 Shaun2: no Jan 10 21:00:46 <-- AcidChild has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 21:00:54 lame Jan 10 21:01:04 could have got one on ebay for £2 Jan 10 21:01:07 brand new Jan 10 21:01:14 i didn't know eterm had a pre-built slackware package Jan 10 21:01:15 that's nice Jan 10 21:01:25 thr1ce: even it if didn't.. I'd build my own :P Jan 10 21:01:45 Shaun2: actually... now i'm not so sure. the freq for the normal sky buttons like numbers & power are prob. the same, it's anything more than that it gets tricky Jan 10 21:01:47 --> harryvv (~noyb@S010600055d210201.vs.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:01:47 i have both sitting in front of me Jan 10 21:01:52 the .tgz is tough to resist! Jan 10 21:01:57 --> sdogi_ (~java@84-50-17-238-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:02:08 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 21:02:09 i dont mind if i cant use the extra buttons, which is obvious Jan 10 21:02:22 does the newest slack have a install option of installing xwindows when its started? Jan 10 21:02:23 I really hate when there is good software, but the development is slow or just non-existent Jan 10 21:02:24 true. Jan 10 21:02:35 but the remote looks nicer Jan 10 21:02:43 :p Jan 10 21:02:43 and was cheaper Jan 10 21:02:43 harryvv: all versions of slack, iirc, allow you to install window managesr. Jan 10 21:03:01 Dom, I dont recall its been 7 years since using slack. Jan 10 21:03:05 brb Jan 10 21:03:06 <-- thr1ce has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 21:03:21 Shaun2: http://www.beststuff.co.uk/sky_plus_remote.htm "operates sky and sky+ boxes" Jan 10 21:03:32 harryvv: You have the ability to install window managers during install.. yes Jan 10 21:03:39 harryvv: even a chance to pick your default window manager Jan 10 21:03:50 nifty Jan 10 21:03:51 hope the auction's still open Jan 10 21:03:53 shame its ended now Jan 10 21:03:54 harryvv: full install is 3GB.. I just install everything... makes sure that I get what I want.. then I remove what I don't want later Jan 10 21:03:56 thers lots of em there though Jan 10 21:04:24 i was gonna say something heartwarming about freeview.. but words failed me Jan 10 21:04:43 Dominian, mmm yea going to. Personally would like more then one lab machine :) Jan 10 21:04:49 harryvv: hehe Jan 10 21:04:53 <-- Marverick has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 21:05:00 you like freeview? Jan 10 21:05:05 harryvv: Slackware 10 is very nice.. very fast.. and very stable. Jan 10 21:05:12 slack and knopix just came from cheapbites so no mo posibility of burn errors. Jan 10 21:05:16 --> TheBeast (~betzivu@dsl-66-225-165-10.vianet.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:05:24 harryvv: I was a dedicated Mandrake fan till my rpm database took a dump on me and I got pissed off and went back to Slack ;) Jan 10 21:05:38 --> nologo (~nologo@Quebec-HSE-ppp3614945.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:06:14 i have a very new box which has a nice menu - i dig the program progress barchart action Jan 10 21:06:30 Dom, im running mandrake right now dont like its funny urpmi context. Does slack still use gzip to decompress files and the traditional make make install ? Jan 10 21:06:35 heh cool Jan 10 21:06:45 but freeview doesnt have as many channels Jan 10 21:06:51 or does it use a script of its own. Jan 10 21:07:03 harryvv: yes Jan 10 21:07:12 harryvv: and you can use slackpacks which are of *.tgz format Jan 10 21:07:28 harryvv: pkgtool, makepkg, installpkg, upgradepkg, explodepkg Jan 10 21:07:35 sometimes my memory eludes me :) Jan 10 21:07:38 harryvv: I build all my packs myself. Jan 10 21:07:44 --> OutpourDCC (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:07:46 yeah. whenever i visit my parents i get sucked into the sky thing. still, i get repeats of judge judy and you cant ask for more than that ;) Jan 10 21:07:52 my remotes nackered, none of the keys have writing on them anymore Jan 10 21:08:01 and it hasnt had a battery cover for as long as i can think back Jan 10 21:08:03 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 21:08:10 heh: that's the WAY of remotes Jan 10 21:08:21 Shaun2: always sucks when that happens... good thing is.. your guests that come over can't take over remote controller commander cause they don't know the layout hehe Jan 10 21:08:22 last sky remote i used the '1' key was completely inoperable Jan 10 21:08:23 the batteries keep falling out Jan 10 21:08:32 then it forgets how to control tv Jan 10 21:08:45 --> rh0` (~rolando@host-205-241-35-189.acelerate.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:08:51 Shaun2: Scotch tape works great as a batter cover Jan 10 21:09:00 s/batter/battery Jan 10 21:09:14 Dominian: i remember i used to keep my gameboy together with a bit of cerealbox and some masking tape - smooth running Jan 10 21:09:26 LOL Jan 10 21:09:27 lockige: I use duct tape on mine Jan 10 21:09:33 lockige: till the display finally fried Jan 10 21:09:36 ya br0ke it Jan 10 21:09:39 lockige: then I blew it up Jan 10 21:09:40 hehe Jan 10 21:09:42 lol Jan 10 21:09:56 had a friend who lived in the country... so we were always blowing stuff up Jan 10 21:10:01 I shot that one with a 12 gauge shotgun Jan 10 21:10:08 <-- SlackFart has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 21:10:16 my gameboy is still fully operable.. maybe i should dig it out. that pirate "1000 games" cartridge was incredible... all 10 games worked :) Jan 10 21:10:24 hehe Jan 10 21:10:26 smoke break Jan 10 21:10:37 lol Jan 10 21:10:51 'the batteries in your remote controller are low' Jan 10 21:11:07 don't tell me it talks? Jan 10 21:11:17 why on earth would you want a new one? Jan 10 21:11:22 it comes up on the screen when you press a key Jan 10 21:11:39 --> SlackFart (~el_fart0@dc51468581.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:11:43 --> Marverick (~slack4eve@201.11.181.42) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:11:54 --> solsTiCe (~solsTiCe@d213-103-39-27.cust.tele2.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:12:06 neat Jan 10 21:12:10 --> Sklet (~Sklet@200.118.115.240) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:12:10 :O Jan 10 21:12:44 but its a wreck Jan 10 21:12:52 so will try and get another for a few quid on ebay Jan 10 21:12:53 elementary question: how do i mount an ntfs drive as rw? Jan 10 21:13:08 maybe i should sell my knackered gameboy on ebay... Jan 10 21:13:21 <-- newbie^ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 21:13:39 read-write? Jan 10 21:13:48 yeh Jan 10 21:14:14 last time i checked, ntfs write support was limited to changing a file, but keeping its exact same size Jan 10 21:14:15 <-- sdogi has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 21:14:17 or something Jan 10 21:14:41 I should have stayed with slack from the begining would have 7 years of experaince using it :) Jan 10 21:14:43 --> thr1ce (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:14:58 hm...can't get Eterm transparent :-\ Jan 10 21:15:20 <-- OutpourDCC has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 21:15:34 <-- jorgito has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 21:15:57 hmm. my thunderbird settings are perfect in windows, i was hoping now i got slack working again i could somehow r/w the windows mailboxes, settings, etc. Jan 10 21:16:02 --> Outpour (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:16:29 bah Jan 10 21:16:33 flu :(( Jan 10 21:17:06 fever, blabla :( Jan 10 21:17:08 t'aww Jan 10 21:17:17 lockige: just port your profile Jan 10 21:18:00 --> zomtec (~zomtec@p50810458.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:18:05 <-- TaQ has quit ("gone!") Jan 10 21:18:06 lockige, You can export them from thunderbird, I don't think you need r/w to do that, just ro Jan 10 21:18:33 <-- crackerjack has quit ("cannot reads it's own interrupt.. damn brains of mine..") Jan 10 21:18:38 As long as slack is rock solid stable that all i care about. Jan 10 21:19:03 --> McDutchie (~martijn@inlv.demon.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:19:27 harryvv: slack is rock solid. at least that's my opinion Jan 10 21:19:45 <-- zomtec has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 21:20:01 and mine Jan 10 21:20:35 I tried all major distros. but Slackware fits best. Jan 10 21:21:00 but it'll mean downloading pop mail twice, right? Jan 10 21:21:20 harryvv, It is as long as you do things the "slackware way", if you try to take short cuts with upgrading and stuff like that it's like whittling away at the legs of a table to keep it from wobbling. Jan 10 21:21:20 yep Jan 10 21:21:28 what you do lockige Jan 10 21:21:35 is use linux as main os Jan 10 21:21:44 i dont have tb set up in windows any more Jan 10 21:21:44 :P Jan 10 21:22:05 <-- [TK]D-Fender has quit () Jan 10 21:22:23 --> DexterF (~dexter@pD9FF2404.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:22:44 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:23:12 can somebody with k3b 0.11.17 or 18 and a dvdwriter do me a favor and tell me owner/perms of /dev/writer and /usr/bin/growisofs ? Jan 10 21:24:24 --> xemon (~zxemon@65.171.164.98) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:25:11 those of you with a printer installed, is it /dev/usb/lp0 ? Jan 10 21:26:17 <-- lockige has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 21:30:59 . Jan 10 21:31:23 <-- tbird has quit ("leaving") Jan 10 21:31:37 three_11 yah Jan 10 21:32:13 <-- ximpul has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 21:32:25 ah. k3b working again in 2.6.7 Jan 10 21:32:51 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:32:53 and insecure. Jan 10 21:32:53 <-- chemfire has quit ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") Jan 10 21:32:59 ? Jan 10 21:33:05 if a normal user can write cds with cdrecord, they can send any scsi command to any scsi drive Jan 10 21:33:10 or ide-scsi drive Jan 10 21:33:34 cdrecord doesn't use the proper methods. hence it borks under 2.6.8 and higher which have patched security hole Jan 10 21:33:39 --> MadMartin (router@BSN-77-233-145.dsl.siol.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:33:40 you mean like pass low level commands and bypass any file permissions? Jan 10 21:33:52 yah Jan 10 21:33:54 DexterF: Yes. Jan 10 21:33:55 or flash drive bios Jan 10 21:33:56 hmm. Jan 10 21:34:11 ok. i see the point. Jan 10 21:34:25 but dvd writing doesn't use cdrecord but growisofs. same there? Jan 10 21:34:37 no idea Jan 10 21:35:04 fred87, hmm Jan 10 21:35:44 --> tvv (~tvv@193.23.122.22) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:36:13 oh fsck forgot to compile db4 with -fPIC Jan 10 21:36:17 <-- viLeR has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 21:37:01 ok, need little help here... when i start a program that runs full screen it's picture is only seen on the left side of the screen Jan 10 21:37:04 everything else is black Jan 10 21:37:08 anyone had such thing? Jan 10 21:37:11 i'd inquire the kernel ml, but i always feel like that is too less of a question to address to the kernel hackers. Jan 10 21:37:20 fred87, are you able to cat 'textfile' > /dev/usb/lp0 ? Jan 10 21:37:31 sdogi_: entire left half? what prog? Jan 10 21:37:48 DexterF: no, very few of the left half Jan 10 21:37:55 OT: ok, half-life 2, worthwhile purchase or no? Jan 10 21:38:00 DexterF: right now doom legacy... actually i have this with lot of programs Jan 10 21:38:03 fuzzbawl: hell yes. Jan 10 21:38:03 three_11 cat 'textfile' | lp-cups Jan 10 21:38:18 --> hala (~kaloyan@spfwsaiac01.securepop.ch) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:38:22 DexterF: i didn't figure it out then and well, actually i can't find anything helpful right now either Jan 10 21:38:28 o Jan 10 21:38:36 <-- PiterPunk has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 10 21:38:47 lol, chinese-eyes is banned. Jan 10 21:39:32 sdogi_: wine? cedega? native? Jan 10 21:39:51 what the crap Jan 10 21:39:56 "Media tray empty!" Jan 10 21:40:02 any idea what that means? Jan 10 21:40:03 DexterF: native Jan 10 21:40:18 --> geko (~oito@adslsapo-b5-210-228.telepac.pt) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:40:21 sdogi_: uh huh. sounds like graph driver issues. NV or ATi closed src? Jan 10 21:40:32 hehe, sis 300/305 Jan 10 21:41:04 most of the things work but some, only some won't work... right now i'm trying to compile legacy doom from source but they have made it quite hard Jan 10 21:41:08 --> zomtec (~zomtec@p50810458.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:41:35 sdogi_: where can i get the src? what X version do you run? Jan 10 21:42:17 three_11: is it an audio cd? Jan 10 21:42:37 x.org 6.7.0 Jan 10 21:42:54 <-- MadMartin has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 21:43:01 Dominian, print job :P Jan 10 21:43:08 thats what cups is saying Jan 10 21:43:09 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 21:43:12 oh Jan 10 21:43:14 out of paper maybe? Jan 10 21:43:26 no Jan 10 21:43:43 pc load letter Jan 10 21:43:44 :p Jan 10 21:44:00 wtf is pc load letter Jan 10 21:44:04 * three_11 loves office space Jan 10 21:44:06 taking about paper Jan 10 21:44:06 <-- maddler has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 21:44:07 sdogi_: maybe check out 6.8.1? Jan 10 21:44:08 --> maddler (~maddler@195.110.158.19) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:44:18 --> adjacent (~scott@63.209.153.130) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:44:22 DexterF: http://sourceforge.net/projects/doomlegacy Jan 10 21:44:26 three_11: pc load letter.. error... I'd check to make sure there is paper in the printer Jan 10 21:44:32 no no Jan 10 21:44:35 im quoting a movie Jan 10 21:44:36 hehe Jan 10 21:44:41 --> dwolf (~unknown@dwolf.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:44:50 --- nixor removes ban on *!0@* Jan 10 21:44:54 gah going to have to recompile kdemultimedia Jan 10 21:44:57 i definitely have paper Jan 10 21:45:09 fred87, any ideas on why i get W [10/Jan/2005:15:39:06 -0500] [Job 1] Media tray empty! Jan 10 21:45:17 three_11: ohhhhh Jan 10 21:45:23 Dominian, lol Jan 10 21:45:30 <-- zomtec has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 21:45:46 three_11: it's good to be a gangster Jan 10 21:45:49 <-- adjacent has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 21:45:51 heh Jan 10 21:45:52 DexterF: i'll try Jan 10 21:46:00 sdogi_: 10.0 or current? Jan 10 21:46:29 three_11: you have the right driver for your printer configured? Jan 10 21:46:29 <-- padx (~padx@80-219-27-84.dclient.hispeed.ch) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 10 21:46:44 DexterF: 10.0 Jan 10 21:47:09 i wonder if it needs glibc upgrade too Jan 10 21:47:39 looks like i have some good news...no, its not about car insurance.. =) Jan 10 21:47:41 --> UQlev (~yuriy@ykulyev.logos.cy.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:47:44 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:47:48 hm, 6.8.1 is only in current, but when the issue bugs you so much, building from src might be worth a shot. fast machine? Jan 10 21:47:53 i may no longer be a bum... Jan 10 21:47:55 2GHz takes about an hour Jan 10 21:47:57 i have a job. =) Jan 10 21:48:26 --- acidkill_ is now known as acidkill Jan 10 21:48:27 jobs are good Jan 10 21:48:28 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 21:48:47 --> Outpour (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:48:47 lemme guess its not customer relations, right? Jan 10 21:48:49 <-- slackem has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 21:48:52 nvm, Jan 10 21:48:53 indeed, i hear they give you money somehow. Jan 10 21:48:56 heh. NO. Jan 10 21:48:57 well, to build doom.. it won't take that long... if i would only figure out how to do it Jan 10 21:49:16 IT dept for a theme park. Jan 10 21:49:23 sdogi_: no, I mean: build 6.8.1 Jan 10 21:49:25 nice Jan 10 21:49:31 acidkill: hehe free ride Jan 10 21:49:43 thats what im saying. =) Jan 10 21:49:43 oh, i'll just do upgradepkg Jan 10 21:50:06 Dominian, yes Jan 10 21:50:07 <-- spenser has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 21:50:22 the hp one that is recommended Jan 10 21:50:22 its a windows xp/2003 shop, but whatever. Jan 10 21:50:31 <-- tvv (~tvv@193.23.122.22) has left ##slackware Jan 10 21:50:40 acidkill: at least it's bleeding edge Jan 10 21:50:41 --> Vayn0r (~Vayn0r@CPE0050047e7f32-CM0f2049994695.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:50:42 supposedly they plan to get some linux servers in there fore backup, and monitoring. Jan 10 21:50:47 sdogi_: current packages in 10.0 = no good idea. you've been warned Jan 10 21:51:06 --> avoca (~avoca@159-134-145-114.as1.mvw.galway.eircom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:51:08 hm Jan 10 21:51:17 DexterF: i'm trying slackware-current Jan 10 21:51:52 there were two other guys interviewing, theirs lasted ~15min. my interview was 45min, and then i talked with my soon-to-be supervisor for about 40min longer. Jan 10 21:52:12 --> viLeR (~miv@aurora.telesat.com.co) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:52:48 --> nachox (Emi@200-122-56-191.dsl.prima.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:52:51 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 10 21:53:02 acidkill: You got a BS in BS ? ;) Jan 10 21:53:22 an AS in..uh...something. =) Jan 10 21:53:31 ehe Jan 10 21:53:39 --> HeatHawk (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:53:39 oooo almost time to go hoime Jan 10 21:53:47 --> _570RM_ (~storm@80.172.149.3) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:54:08 they are a 99% dell shop, which is pretty good i guess. could be better, could be worse. Jan 10 21:54:19 but all their macines are brand new. Jan 10 21:54:27 --> adjacent (~scott@63.209.153.130) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:54:43 infact, they are still deploying machines. Jan 10 21:54:56 --> newbie`` (1000@81.213.137.151) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:55:01 Dell.... ew... Jan 10 21:55:17 could be gateway. =) Jan 10 21:55:44 hi when i typed man ls i get this error message-> Error executing formatting or display command. Jan 10 21:55:44 but if i type this i can see manual page: /bin/bzip2 -c -d /usr/man/cat1/ls.1.bz2 Jan 10 21:55:45 Could be whitebox from multiple local vendors that have gone bankrupt too. :-) Jan 10 21:55:48 how can i fix it? Jan 10 21:55:57 indeed. Jan 10 21:56:05 Ooh, I'm getting a P3 800mhz (CPU + mobo) for $20 Jan 10 21:56:23 hey!! thats whats in my laptop!! Jan 10 21:56:28 :P Jan 10 21:56:33 and i paid...100x as much. Jan 10 21:56:33 <-- lonewolf_v6 has quit (No route to host) Jan 10 21:56:35 newbie``: http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?as_q=man%20%22Error%20executing%20formatting%20or%20display%22&safe=off&as_ugroup=alt.os.linux.slackware&lr=&hl=en Jan 10 21:56:37 Straterra: where you geting that at? Jan 10 21:56:42 Dominian, local shop Jan 10 21:56:45 ah Jan 10 21:56:52 --> Roa (~wer@dsl-200-95-11-183.prod-infinitum.com.mx) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:57:03 Alan_Hicks, u must be an angel.. Jan 10 21:57:06 thank u angel Jan 10 21:57:18 newbie``: you need to disable legacy bsd pty support in the kernel Jan 10 21:57:20 newbie``: No, I'm a BOZO. :^) Jan 10 21:57:42 Dominian, how can i do that Jan 10 21:57:45 im in menuconfig Jan 10 21:57:54 where can i find bsd pty support in menuconfig? Jan 10 21:57:56 umm it's in device drivers/ chartacterdevices I think Jan 10 21:57:58 =(( icant find Jan 10 21:58:03 ok im looking Jan 10 21:58:09 alan_hicks == the archangle of typos Jan 10 21:58:17 --> slackem (~w00t@ool-182c5ff6.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:58:26 sup Jan 10 21:58:37 fred87: At least I'm an archangel. Jan 10 21:58:44 hey Alan_Hicks =) Jan 10 21:58:51 nachox: Howdy. Jan 10 21:58:56 * three_11 puches things Jan 10 21:58:59 during kernel boot after Going multiuser im getting this error* Jan 10 21:59:07 --> OutpourDCC (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 21:59:09 ** can't synthesize root hub events Jan 10 21:59:14 and i must compile kernel again isnt it Dominian ? Jan 10 21:59:15 =((( Jan 10 21:59:20 newbie``: yep Jan 10 21:59:24 i better go take a break from trying to get this printer to work before i destroy something Jan 10 21:59:24 it takes my more time Jan 10 21:59:27 i think it has to do something with usb Jan 10 21:59:33 * three_11 screams profanity Jan 10 21:59:35 how can i compile it quickly Jan 10 21:59:36 =P Jan 10 21:59:47 either get an amd64, or get lots of amd64s Jan 10 21:59:57 --> fhobia (~fhobia@24-205-238-48.slo-cres.charterpipeline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:00:05 fred87: or cluster some old boxes together hehe Jan 10 22:00:11 --> mmu_man (revol@ATuileries-117-1-24-8.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:00:13 newbie`` if u did compile it once just go to the dir (dont make mrproper or make clean), just do maken menuconfig make a change and do make Jan 10 22:00:17 alrighty folks.. I"m headin' home Jan 10 22:00:20 <-- Dominian has quit ("/home for me") Jan 10 22:00:21 <-- Frost^ has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 22:00:27 l8er dominian Jan 10 22:00:45 newbie``: Don't listen to fred87. He still hasn't finished his compiling. :-) Jan 10 22:00:50 shh :P Jan 10 22:00:59 slackem: no make modules_install? lilo.conf? lilo? ;) Jan 10 22:01:02 ;DD Jan 10 22:01:02 ok Jan 10 22:01:04 <-- avoca has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 22:01:22 slackem, thank u are genuius Jan 10 22:01:23 =P Jan 10 22:01:28 DexterF he did it b4 so he knows the steps i guess Jan 10 22:01:37 hm.. I need to do a science fair-like board.. but I was told once to never try to cut straight lines again Jan 10 22:01:46 slackem: k Jan 10 22:01:50 newbie`` that will compile in the chages u made Jan 10 22:01:59 ONLY Jan 10 22:02:01 thank u Jan 10 22:02:01 coool Jan 10 22:02:02 =p Jan 10 22:02:06 legacy bsd pty support what it works for? Jan 10 22:02:21 why im removing this support cant anybody explain? Jan 10 22:02:28 --> slackd00d (~bacardi@c-24-19-150-201.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:02:28 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@c-24-19-150-201.client.comcast.net Jan 10 22:02:29 <-- nixor has kicked slackd00d from ##slackware (banned:trolling isn't condoned here) Jan 10 22:02:51 im getting this error during kernel boot ** can't synthesize root hub events Jan 10 22:03:04 i think it has something to do with usb support Jan 10 22:03:12 it has Jan 10 22:03:28 slackem: run dmesg and put the relevant section at http://axpr.net Jan 10 22:03:42 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Toronto-ppp298610.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:04:05 second google hit slackem: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/02/msg03094.html Jan 10 22:04:16 afk Jan 10 22:06:05 Alan_Hicks diff machine n only CLI Jan 10 22:06:16 What? Jan 10 22:06:56 cant paste it there cuz it's different machine and it's only command line so id have hard time copying and pasting Jan 10 22:07:17 Polleke thanks maybe it can be disabled or something Jan 10 22:07:27 slackem: Learn to use screen. You'll love it. Jan 10 22:07:40 look in the scripts Jan 10 22:07:48 screen rocks Jan 10 22:08:24 i have that installed Jan 10 22:08:32 gonna have to read some man pages Jan 10 22:08:51 gpm can copy and paste for certain instances Jan 10 22:09:12 do you guys know if there's a prog to limit the bandwitch that programs use Jan 10 22:09:14 <-- pingtimeout has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 22:09:21 slackem: man screen Search for "(copy)" Jan 10 22:09:25 in windose there's prog called NetLimiter Jan 10 22:09:43 slackem-> cbq traffic shaper Jan 10 22:10:00 is it gui or only for console? Jan 10 22:10:03 lemme check Jan 10 22:10:06 i dont know if it will work for program spacific Jan 10 22:10:12 *spacific programs Jan 10 22:10:16 heading home. later all Jan 10 22:10:16 ohh Jan 10 22:10:16 <-- fuzzbawl has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 22:12:25 I guess I should have asked what to set my partitions to when installing slack. Jan 10 22:12:37 why? Jan 10 22:12:51 got it as / /usr/src/ swap trying to recall the rest :) Jan 10 22:12:56 <-- _kop has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 22:13:09 Um... / and maybe /home ? Jan 10 22:13:15 i did /home Jan 10 22:13:18 look in /etc/fstab Jan 10 22:13:19 and / Jan 10 22:13:32 its already installing. Jan 10 22:13:35 harryvv, then..thats it Jan 10 22:13:41 --> gh (~gh@gh.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:13:50 <-- Outpour has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 22:14:06 what are the one liner commands to install other software in ftp sites? Jan 10 22:14:18 What? Jan 10 22:14:20 debian has its apt-get and mandrake urpmi Jan 10 22:14:27 There isn't Jan 10 22:14:39 You download the package and run either upgradepkg or installpkg on it Jan 10 22:14:41 its all by hand :) ftp in get file name and decompress it. Jan 10 22:14:46 k Jan 10 22:14:52 is there a man page on ulimit? Jan 10 22:15:13 so installpkg does the decompressing then ? Jan 10 22:15:14 type man ulimit and you tell us Jan 10 22:15:21 harryvv, yes Jan 10 22:15:24 nice Jan 10 22:15:40 so it tar gzip and make make install in one shot? Jan 10 22:15:46 No.. Jan 10 22:15:58 It's a precompiled binary Jan 10 22:16:05 It just extracts it to the correct places Jan 10 22:16:06 i see Jan 10 22:16:08 --> MoemarS (~m@CPE0004e23a0211-CM014500115762.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:16:16 is there any way to save settings ion alsa mixer Jan 10 22:16:25 MoemarS, alsactl Jan 10 22:16:30 alsactl store I think Jan 10 22:16:46 command not found Jan 10 22:16:51 maybe I asked the question wrong. anybody know how to limit the amount of processes a user may run? Jan 10 22:17:06 ahh frisk..ive run out of space on that one partition. what directory has all the applications? Jan 10 22:17:43 is it /usr/src? Jan 10 22:17:56 MoemarS, root Jan 10 22:18:04 /usr/src hold the kernel source..and thats about it Jan 10 22:18:08 DieRatte2-> im just curious, why limit the amt of processes ? Jan 10 22:18:08 i know Jan 10 22:18:18 /usr/bin and /usr/sbin would hold the binaries.. Jan 10 22:18:23 okay Jan 10 22:18:24 I "su" to root Jan 10 22:18:25 does irssi have GUI as well? Jan 10 22:18:27 and sometimes /usr/local/bin Jan 10 22:18:29 but it still wont come Jan 10 22:18:32 must a login Jan 10 22:18:36 as root? Jan 10 22:18:45 ximpul, know something called fork bomb? Jan 10 22:19:02 Straterra so make a /usr directory and obvisly make it the largest partition. Somone said a full install is 3 gigs. Jan 10 22:19:16 harryvv, its less than 3 gigs Jan 10 22:19:26 I would make /usr very very large, if you can Jan 10 22:19:29 okay then I will make it 3 gigs. Jan 10 22:19:34 DieRatte2-> no but im guessing its a DOS type attack by making more processes Jan 10 22:19:35 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:19:36 making it 3 gigs would be stupid Jan 10 22:19:47 harryvv, you will install new stuff Jan 10 22:19:51 That would means you have 0 room for a new kernel or to install new stuff Jan 10 22:19:58 MoemarS, yes Jan 10 22:20:05 well then what should it be set at? Jan 10 22:20:09 <-- dwolf has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 22:20:10 i compiled module for my ide card and the module hptr370.ko is in the dir wheere i compiled it, can i move the file to /lib/modules/2.6.10/misc ? and make entry in modules.conf to load i t? Jan 10 22:20:11 MoemarS, no, su is ennough Jan 10 22:20:16 Um..depends on your HDD space Jan 10 22:20:24 old 8.6 Jan 10 22:20:32 MoemarS, so: which alsactl returns nothing Jan 10 22:20:39 8.6 gigs Jan 10 22:20:41 I would make it all 1 big partition Jan 10 22:20:47 but, thats just me Jan 10 22:20:49 ximpul, right, it can lock up your machine. Another would be background process who do stuff while the users arent logged on. If you have 5 users, running 3 process all the time it can be a burden Jan 10 22:20:52 <-- DexterF has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 22:21:01 gone for now.. Jan 10 22:21:05 so one / and forget it Jan 10 22:21:08 l8er Polleke Jan 10 22:21:11 Yes Jan 10 22:21:18 one partition. I dont find that safe. Jan 10 22:21:19 <-- Vayn0r (~Vayn0r@CPE0050047e7f32-CM0f2049994695.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!") Jan 10 22:21:23 Safe? Jan 10 22:21:24 oh Jan 10 22:21:29 WTF do you mean safe? Jan 10 22:21:36 This isn't a server..hopefully Jan 10 22:21:49 its going to be a test server Jan 10 22:21:56 For just you or other people?? Jan 10 22:21:57 so i woudl run alsactl store 1 Jan 10 22:22:05 for me and other people. Jan 10 22:22:13 Then get a bigger hard drive Jan 10 22:22:17 Or a seperate hard drive Jan 10 22:22:18 <-- newbie`` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 22:22:19 <-- _570RM_ has quit (No route to host) Jan 10 22:22:39 http://server.straterra.info/sysinfo/ Jan 10 22:22:49 Strata, its only for one process. it does not need to be any bigger it was working in anothr distro just fine. Jan 10 22:22:55 So? Jan 10 22:22:58 one binary with some config files. Jan 10 22:23:10 Im not going to buy another hard drive. Jan 10 22:23:16 If you have alot of files by users, then the partition will fill up quickly and bog the system with 1 partition Jan 10 22:23:21 DieRatte2-> take a look at this http://sourceforge.net/projects/ctk-ulimitw/ Jan 10 22:23:31 there will be no files other then a few Jan 10 22:23:33 If you have numerous partitions, then you reduce the ability to install more programs Jan 10 22:23:39 Then go with a single partition Jan 10 22:23:44 how come i can save the settings as root, but not as a reg user Jan 10 22:23:55 DieRatte2, man bash, look for ulimit, i think thats what you were looking for Jan 10 22:24:20 nachox: whats up man? Jan 10 22:24:24 --> jamesbond (~jamesbond@ADSL-216-244-239-233.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:24:32 007 Jan 10 22:24:35 DieRatte2-> ulimit is the thing you want though Jan 10 22:24:36 hey XGizzmo =) how are you doing? Jan 10 22:24:46 I have been told that having multiple partitions prevents a total system crash and recovery unlike one single partition and also its for rw access speed. Jan 10 22:24:47 good now that i am off work Jan 10 22:24:53 hi everyone Jan 10 22:24:58 nachox: did you get your gear? Jan 10 22:25:00 nachox, didnt find it there Jan 10 22:25:14 ximpul, i dont know what I want yet. ulimit was the first I found Jan 10 22:25:31 --> SebasT (~Sebastian@ADSL-216-244-239-233.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:25:35 DieRatte2-> you know you want it! (jk) Jan 10 22:25:41 XGizzmo, the one i got was broken, so i have to get a new one tomorrow Jan 10 22:25:47 well, mabey for now can install on one partition. Jan 10 22:26:06 ximpul, doesnt look like the right app for me Jan 10 22:26:12 harryvv, speed? Jan 10 22:26:12 it depends what you dow ith those multiple partitions ? Jan 10 22:26:15 Speed has nothing to do with it Jan 10 22:26:22 i compiled module for my ide card and the module hptr370.ko is in the dir wheere i compiled it, can i move the file to /lib/modules/2.6.10/misc ? and make entry in modules.conf to load i t? Jan 10 22:26:33 <-- SebasT has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 22:26:52 mount the main system read-only for protection and say /tmp on the other so it doesn't fill up the disk, that kinda thing? just having multipe partitions doesn't exactly mean its effective ? Jan 10 22:27:20 fhobia, its a 8.6GB hard drive Jan 10 22:27:28 Not much room for multiple partitions Jan 10 22:27:31 how come i am able to save the alsamixer settings in the console,. but when i start X it revert back to the default Jan 10 22:27:38 Especially with /usr Jan 10 22:27:51 MoemarS, are you using another mixer in X? Jan 10 22:27:55 Like Arts? Jan 10 22:27:58 Hello Jan 10 22:28:06 no, just xmms Jan 10 22:28:11 DieRatte2, http://www.rt.com/man/bash.1.html look for ulimit there Jan 10 22:28:19 MoemarS, what WM? Jan 10 22:28:20 just calculate how much you need ? i partitioned 500 mb drive just fine Jan 10 22:28:41 fhobia, with multiple partitions? Jan 10 22:28:59 Like..one for /home, and one for /usr/ and one for anything else? Jan 10 22:29:00 i made /, /home, swap...ok, i guess thats not really "multiple" ? Jan 10 22:29:07 No.. Jan 10 22:29:11 It kinda is Jan 10 22:29:35 i get what you mean though :D Jan 10 22:29:36 I like to put /var on its own partition. Jan 10 22:29:41 GNOME Jan 10 22:29:51 * tewmten farts Jan 10 22:29:52 MoemarS, then it is using another mixer Jan 10 22:29:56 hmm, Jan 10 22:29:59 Adjust the volumes on the mixer in GNOME Jan 10 22:30:04 Alan_Hicks, how large of a HDD? Jan 10 22:30:07 they always reset aswell Jan 10 22:30:09 GNOMEs are evil...they steal your underpants at the worst times. Jan 10 22:30:13 * fhobia isolates tewmten from the room Jan 10 22:30:19 Straterra: Any size really. Jan 10 22:30:24 <-- geko has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 22:30:26 acidkill, Yes..tweak taught us that! Jan 10 22:30:46 I think that 8.6 is too small to do that with Jan 10 22:30:57 8.6GB? Jan 10 22:31:00 Yes Jan 10 22:31:11 That's plenty big enough! Jan 10 22:31:17 <-- hala has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 22:31:25 I mean..what? 4GB for /usr, 1 gig for / and the rest for /home? Jan 10 22:31:26 :D i have slack on 5 gb partition Jan 10 22:31:28 <-- gh has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 22:31:46 Seems quite rediculous to me Jan 10 22:31:46 I have Slack on a 500MB hard drive. Jan 10 22:31:48 Straterra, how do i fix that Jan 10 22:31:48 * nachox remembers dealing with 1.7 gb disks, that was big enough Jan 10 22:31:49 i have 5 gb /, 1 gb /home, 1 gb /shared Jan 10 22:31:58 MoemarS, I don't know. Look at the GNOME documentation Jan 10 22:32:15 I typically do /, swap, /home, and /var partitions. Jan 10 22:32:22 nachox, thx Jan 10 22:32:30 np Jan 10 22:32:39 what is /var for? www ? Jan 10 22:32:43 * nachox does the same Jan 10 22:32:43 fhobia, no Jan 10 22:32:53 Wait.. Jan 10 22:32:54 Yes Jan 10 22:32:55 :P Jan 10 22:32:56 oh wait...wait...printe spool ? Jan 10 22:33:00 logs, mail, spool... Jan 10 22:33:04 fhobia: mail spools, mysql, www, logs, lots of stuff. Jan 10 22:33:09 I never use /var Jan 10 22:33:12 Ever ever ever Jan 10 22:33:17 pr0n Jan 10 22:33:22 /var/pr0n/ Jan 10 22:33:25 Straterra: You don't work on servers do you? Jan 10 22:33:30 Alan_Hicks, yes, I do Jan 10 22:33:43 ulimit doesnt seem to work the way I want to, tho Jan 10 22:33:51 Alan_Hicks: what about /tmp, shouldn't that be separate since its other read write access ? Jan 10 22:33:55 Having /var on its own partition is just good sense to me. Jan 10 22:34:02 Alan_Hicks, if you use it Jan 10 22:34:07 I would have /usr on its own too Jan 10 22:34:12 fhobia: I often symlink /tmp to /var/tmp. Jan 10 22:34:18 ah! Jan 10 22:34:33 Straterra: Nearly everything server-wise uses /var. Jan 10 22:34:44 Alan_Hicks, I don't have a single thing that does Jan 10 22:34:47 My Apache doesn't Jan 10 22:34:55 proftpd doesn't, samba doesn't Jan 10 22:35:02 SSH doesn't Jan 10 22:35:02 Straterra, syslogd ? Jan 10 22:35:04 What about sendmail? mysql? Jan 10 22:35:10 I don't use sendmail Jan 10 22:35:17 I don't use mysql either Jan 10 22:35:18 proftpd log ? Jan 10 22:35:22 syslogd? nearly anything spam related? Jan 10 22:35:28 nope Jan 10 22:35:34 heh Jan 10 22:36:16 fhobia, logs are sent to another hard drive Jan 10 22:36:19 slackware's packege logging uses /var too Jan 10 22:36:35 nachox, /var/log/packages ? Jan 10 22:36:51 Straterra: Then you're using syslogd on another box. You just can't escape using /var for something. Jan 10 22:36:52 :) Jan 10 22:36:53 It doesn't have to. :P Jan 10 22:36:58 Alan_Hicks, no I'm not Jan 10 22:37:02 I'm not using syslogd at all Jan 10 22:37:10 Straterra: What are you using for logging then? Jan 10 22:37:18 Um...nothing? Jan 10 22:37:23 I let each program log themselves Jan 10 22:37:32 so much for a server box Jan 10 22:37:37 nachox, its a home server Jan 10 22:37:39 You just said you send logs to another hard drive. Jan 10 22:37:39 And I am the only user Jan 10 22:37:44 Alan_Hicks, yes Jan 10 22:37:44 <-- foureyes779 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 22:37:46 proftpd logs Jan 10 22:37:48 Apache logs Jan 10 22:37:53 Unreal logs Jan 10 22:38:08 SSH isn't exposed to the net Jan 10 22:38:08 Straterra, syslog is on? Jan 10 22:38:11 What, do you have a cron job that copies them over via the network? Jan 10 22:38:12 nachox, no Jan 10 22:38:15 Alan_Hicks, no Jan 10 22:38:22 --> alphahawk (~alphahawk@70.56.105.158) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:38:25 I modify the .conf files to go to another hard drive Jan 10 22:38:27 question anyone compiled xvid, or understand this ----> ln -s libxvidcore.so.MAJOR.MINOR libxvidcore.so.MAJOR, because the lib is libxvidcore.so.4.0 so link it as, ln -s libxvidcore.so.4.0 libxvidcore.?? Jan 10 22:38:31 Who said anything about network? Jan 10 22:38:48 yo Jan 10 22:38:49 Straterra: Why on earth do you do that then? Jan 10 22:39:00 Alan_Hicks, because everyone looks in /var for logs.. Jan 10 22:39:17 I don't LIKE for things to be in default locations like that, not if I can change them Jan 10 22:39:21 hmm, samba saves logs to /var/log/ iirc Jan 10 22:39:24 Security through obscurity. Jan 10 22:39:29 Exactly Jan 10 22:39:31 nachox: That's configurable. Jan 10 22:39:37 nachox, its very configurable Jan 10 22:39:45 Straterra: That's a terrible idea for security. Jan 10 22:39:49 Alan_Hicks, not really Jan 10 22:39:59 yes, of course, but isnt that the default? Jan 10 22:40:00 It's a step in security, its not all of the security Jan 10 22:40:02 find / -name "*.log" Jan 10 22:40:03 nachox, yes Jan 10 22:40:11 Alan_Hicks, who says I use .log ? Jan 10 22:40:31 I think Security through obscurity is ok, as long as you don't come to rely on it. I think it's fine to *use* it. Jan 10 22:41:24 i dont see any point in changing the places where you save the logs really Jan 10 22:42:21 I just went with a simple / swap partitions for now. Jan 10 22:42:35 Xgates: i would think ldconfig would take care of that for you. Jan 10 22:42:44 nachox: Agreed. If anyone has the rights to read/write logs they've already got root. Jan 10 22:42:47 btw, its fairly rare anymore hd do fail. Jan 10 22:42:57 Alan_Hicks, not true Jan 10 22:43:02 nobody and read/write logs Jan 10 22:43:15 All they would have to do it gain access through apache, SSH or proftpd Jan 10 22:43:18 Only for programs running as nobody. Jan 10 22:43:25 harryvv: harddrives fail all the time. Jan 10 22:43:29 Alan_Hicks, and most programs out of the box do Jan 10 22:43:44 Well, most daemons like that do Jan 10 22:43:49 Alan_Hicks, exactly my point, he has permission to read the config files and get the logs everywhere on the disk too Jan 10 22:44:01 <-- kiwi_uk has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 22:44:08 XG, depends. Ive rarly seen them fail in a production enviroment. But then again not to exposed to data centers. Jan 10 22:44:30 Straterra: I cannot rightly comprehend the lack of understanding that states that moving your config files is in any way an addition to security. Jan 10 22:44:50 I didn't move my config files Jan 10 22:44:55 I moved the log files Jan 10 22:45:01 That's what I meant. Jan 10 22:45:06 s/config/log/ Jan 10 22:45:10 standards and defaults are created for a reason imho Jan 10 22:45:10 --> Outpour (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:45:24 Well..that is what you guys think/believe Jan 10 22:45:24 <-- OutpourDCC has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 10 22:45:31 I am using it and it seems to work just fine Jan 10 22:45:52 You're entitled to your own opinion of course. Jan 10 22:46:08 --> kiwi_uk (~kiwi_uk@212.219.225.104) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:46:29 --> shagin_ (~shagin@adsl-68-20-215-178.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:46:38 good discussion :D Jan 10 22:47:03 fhobia: only the best chat at ##slackware Jan 10 22:47:15 double the #! Jan 10 22:47:35 * nachox moves /home to /boot ;) Jan 10 22:47:45 * fhobia jots that down Jan 10 22:48:01 Why is it ##slackware anyhow? Jan 10 22:48:06 ._. Jan 10 22:48:08 * XGizzmo move nachox to antarctica Jan 10 22:48:11 the topic explains it Jan 10 22:48:21 another reason why im installing slack as I feel there is a bug in mandrake that I write a modprobe in modules and it loads them as I can type lsmod and it showes thay are loaded but when I execute this one binary that depends on them it says thay are not loaded. I have to manually load them again and the errors in this dependant binary stop. Jan 10 22:48:25 * Alan_Hicks hits his head for being an asshat. Jan 10 22:48:31 XGizzmo, im not THAT far away from there :P Jan 10 22:48:35 hehe Jan 10 22:48:38 hey unixfool Jan 10 22:48:42 hi Jan 10 22:48:46 <-- solsTiCe has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 22:48:56 ( | ) |> <-- ass with hat ? Jan 10 22:48:56 unixfool, no..we haven't seen Sandy. :) Jan 10 22:48:58 unixfool: PM? Jan 10 22:48:59 <-- Ava3ar has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 10 22:49:37 my mandrake iso download has alot of sig files so im done working with it. Jan 10 22:49:43 sig file errors. Jan 10 22:49:44 <-- TheBeast has quit ("leaving") Jan 10 22:49:55 harryvv: o would not doubt it most big distro's like mandrake have hundreds of just kernel patchs Jan 10 22:50:11 --> jackintheseboxes (~jack@200-103-150-114.ctame7041.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:50:18 Xg, I went the safe way and got some cheapbites. Jan 10 22:50:56 harryvv, you know you can use tab to complete names in many irc clients right? Jan 10 22:51:19 No I did not know that Jan 10 22:51:21 <-- MoemarS has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 22:51:25 --> IronBob (~ironbob@adsl-208-191-166-220.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:51:26 :-D Jan 10 22:51:29 :) Jan 10 22:51:42 ..... Jan 10 22:51:46 nachox: Xgates is cussing you right now. Jan 10 22:51:52 lol Jan 10 22:52:49 Anyone know the command to run GUI programs as root? Jan 10 22:52:58 anyone know why you'd want to? Jan 10 22:53:05 you need to export the display...but i forget how. Jan 10 22:53:12 can you open at terminal, su, and then start them ? Jan 10 22:53:13 <-- shagin has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 10 22:53:21 Squall`: To play Windows games under Bill's OS? Jan 10 22:53:21 xhost ? Jan 10 22:53:28 export :1, I think? Jan 10 22:53:29 xhost maybe Jan 10 22:53:38 uh... and why would that require root priviledges? Jan 10 22:53:42 xhost sounds familiar. Jan 10 22:53:47 Squall`: xconfig. =) Jan 10 22:53:49 * nachox doesnt remember he has been using kdesu for a while to do that Jan 10 22:54:02 Straterra: phrag had a little script to do just that Jan 10 22:54:11 I don't need a script Jan 10 22:54:14 It was 1 line Jan 10 22:54:32 --> Ava3ar (~ava3ar@user-1256.l6.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:54:40 Straterra: let me search the logs Jan 10 22:54:50 Alan_Hicks, :) Jan 10 22:55:31 Well, time for me to head home. Jan 10 22:55:37 Y'all take care. Jan 10 22:55:43 <-- Alan_Hicks has quit ("[BX] Hanson uses BitchX. Mommy, can we dress like boys again?") Jan 10 22:57:11 Straterra: /usr/X11R6/bin/xhost +local:localhost ??? Jan 10 22:57:21 --> rada (~rada@r3x178.chello.upc.cz) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:57:23 evening Jan 10 22:57:24 Maybe Jan 10 22:57:36 <-- Polleke has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 22:57:39 unixfool, hmmm, i know it not my problem, but what happened with sand? Jan 10 22:57:48 --> ryen (~ryen@83.72.184.157.ip.tele2adsl.dk) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 22:57:50 from dmesg: hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Jan 10 22:58:04 phrag: good music man Jan 10 22:58:21 rada, check that the ide cable is fine Jan 10 22:58:33 tewmten: you leaching phrags bamdwidth? Jan 10 22:58:39 bandwidth Jan 10 22:58:41 nachox ok, if it's ok? Jan 10 22:58:47 people in #apache are all busy - anybody here good with apache? Jan 10 22:58:56 nachox it's completely new hdd Jan 10 22:59:02 nachox 160GB Jan 10 22:59:15 Thanks Xgates Jan 10 22:59:18 err, XGizzmo Jan 10 22:59:21 rada, yeah, try another cable and check if you still see the error Jan 10 22:59:22 :) Jan 10 22:59:29 XGizzmo, ;) Jan 10 22:59:34 rada, I get that from my dying drive Jan 10 22:59:48 --> quiet (~quiet@209.94.61.52) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:00:02 what's ananke's -current ISO mirror? Jan 10 23:00:03 rada: if you are using an older cable, try using one of the newer 80pin cables. Jan 10 23:00:04 XGizzmo: constantly, 24/7 Jan 10 23:00:05 :D Jan 10 23:00:14 rada, cable != hard drive Jan 10 23:00:15 hangman: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Jan 10 23:00:24 penissleeve Jan 10 23:00:27 is the word Jan 10 23:00:31 ok, thank you guys Jan 10 23:00:34 I tell you, it is penissleve! Jan 10 23:00:37 quiet, ftp://inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu Jan 10 23:00:38 sleeve* Jan 10 23:00:42 no, it was slackware...kinda related to penis in a way i guess Jan 10 23:00:50 but ok tewmten, you win ! Jan 10 23:00:54 <-- viLeR has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 10 23:01:23 <-- quiet has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 23:01:24 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:01:29 and if the calbe is ok? Jan 10 23:01:40 <-- fhobia has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 23:01:41 then you have problems :P Jan 10 23:02:04 yay! I won! Jan 10 23:02:05 I reckon I have them now ..... Jan 10 23:02:42 <-- xemon has quit (No route to host) Jan 10 23:02:48 changing a broken ide cable is not a problem, changinig a hard drive is Jan 10 23:03:44 --> boerst (~boerst@pD9563633.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:04:20 <-- Putz has quit ("Hey, look; a grenade without a pin!") Jan 10 23:06:21 how can I find out the version of kernel I am using Jan 10 23:06:29 uname -a Jan 10 23:06:45 or cat /proc/version Jan 10 23:07:00 Linux vmgentoo 2.6.9-gentoo-r13 #1 Wed Jan 5 19:01:58 EST 2005 i686 Pentium III (Coppermine) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux Jan 10 23:07:04 Eeeer Jan 10 23:07:11 Wrong machine Jan 10 23:07:16 Straterra, thanks for sharing ;-) Jan 10 23:07:28 Linux server 2.4.28 #6 Tue Dec 14 14:41:15 PST 2004 i686 GenuineIntel Celeron (Mendocino) GNU/Linux Jan 10 23:07:33 No problem.. Anytime. :) Jan 10 23:07:34 Straterra: better put on your fireproof suit. =) Jan 10 23:07:40 acidkill, why? Jan 10 23:07:50 celeron!!!!!!!!! Jan 10 23:07:51 Gentoo?!Q Jan 10 23:07:54 and gentoo-r13 Jan 10 23:07:55 some gentoo haters in here. joking. ;-) Jan 10 23:08:04 my dual boot is slack x86_64 and gentoo Jan 10 23:08:12 :P Jan 10 23:08:13 heh, he had to ask Jan 10 23:08:18 I am trying out Gentoo, lemme alone Jan 10 23:08:28 And yes..A celeron..a 333mhz Celeron Jan 10 23:08:37 could I have the HDD problem because I got 2.4.20 kernel? Jan 10 23:08:37 athlon64 3400+ :D Jan 10 23:08:42 http://straterra.inf/sysinfo on that celeron Jan 10 23:08:46 rada, 2.4.20?! Jan 10 23:08:50 That is insanely old Jan 10 23:08:58 Is that like Slack 9.0 ? Jan 10 23:09:10 probably Jan 10 23:09:21 9.1 had 2.4.22, sooo Jan 10 23:09:34 I am running 9.0 Jan 10 23:09:35 that sounds about right considering 8.1 had 2.4.18 Jan 10 23:09:48 rada, upgrade. Jan 10 23:09:49 :) Jan 10 23:09:53 Upgrade to atleast 10 Jan 10 23:10:11 It's not hard at all..just download the slackware 10 tree and run upgradepkg Jan 10 23:10:22 upgradepkg --install-new, really Jan 10 23:10:33 although I think Gentoo on a 333 MHz Celeron is kind of self abuse Jan 10 23:10:47 really? so 1st slack CD would be good enough? Jan 10 23:11:08 rada, yeah..but its a waste Jan 10 23:11:29 If you have internet and hdd space in Slack 9.0..then do it inside of Slack 9.0 Jan 10 23:11:32 Straterra I have it already burnt Jan 10 23:11:38 defile, the 333mhz isn't running Gentoo Jan 10 23:11:41 rada, oh.. Jan 10 23:11:41 :P Jan 10 23:11:44 --> str (~str@216.230.158.50) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:11:47 <-- jmedina has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 23:12:04 Straterra so can I use this CD to updrage it? Jan 10 23:12:09 Yeah Jan 10 23:12:11 Straterra, my bad Jan 10 23:12:16 <-- grurf has quit (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it") Jan 10 23:12:23 Cd into /slackware and run upgradepkg */*.tgz --install-new Jan 10 23:12:28 Wait Jan 10 23:12:29 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:12:29 Hold on Jan 10 23:12:30 --> AcidChild (~ash@dsl-80-41-13-16.access.uk.tiscali.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:12:38 hehe Jan 10 23:12:42 ill do that tomorrow Jan 10 23:13:08 Read this first Jan 10 23:13:09 ftp://ftp.slackware.at/slackware-10.0/UPGRADE.TXT Jan 10 23:13:13 Do everything mentioned in there Jan 10 23:13:22 That file is also available on the CD, IIRC Jan 10 23:13:51 Straterra ok Jan 10 23:15:59 --> Artimus (~Artimus@66-168-2-157.cli.wi.charter.com) has joined ##Slackware Jan 10 23:16:53 --> [M4rk0] (~sIRC@212.247.71.242) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:16:56 <[M4rk0]> hello Jan 10 23:17:07 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 23:17:27 <[M4rk0]> is there any command to randomize (mix) text lines in file ? Jan 10 23:18:23 [M4rk0], how do you mean that ? Jan 10 23:19:29 <[M4rk0]> hm if i have one file with about 100 sentences (every on new row) i want to mix them randomly to change their line number... Jan 10 23:20:14 sed , troff ...... Jan 10 23:20:24 <[M4rk0]> huh Jan 10 23:20:37 <[M4rk0]> any example Jan 10 23:21:18 man this install is taking a while :) Jan 10 23:21:26 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:21:33 [M4rk0], you are asking too much Jan 10 23:21:39 <[M4rk0]> heh Jan 10 23:21:42 [M4rk0], never done that what you want Jan 10 23:21:42 <[M4rk0]> i know Jan 10 23:22:03 <[M4rk0]> ok Jan 10 23:23:07 Straterra: hey.... Jan 10 23:23:10 I use append = ide-scsi=hdd, right? Jan 10 23:23:10 :P Jan 10 23:23:18 Straterra: you get service through earthlink? Jan 10 23:23:19 For SCSI-ide emulation for CD-burners? Jan 10 23:23:25 acidkill, yeap Jan 10 23:23:30 <-- Guse has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 10 23:23:39 i doubt it...but did your cable connection get upgraded recently? Jan 10 23:23:54 acidkill, last year they gave us 3mbit Jan 10 23:24:21 UdontKnow, are you around? Jan 10 23:24:40 Why? Jan 10 23:24:58 nachox: et Jan 10 23:25:09 hello nachox =) Jan 10 23:25:13 hello XGizzmo =) Jan 10 23:25:15 anyone does LFS with slackware? Jan 10 23:25:16 --> mystic (csk@cm-80.111.217.128.chello.no) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:25:18 i got upgraded to 5mbit this past weekend, but it could just be a central florida thing, or a local area thing. Jan 10 23:25:19 hey phrag =) Jan 10 23:25:21 <-- signal has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 23:25:22 <-- mystic (csk@cm-80.111.217.128.chello.no) has left ##slackware Jan 10 23:25:24 how d phrag Jan 10 23:25:34 hi phrag Jan 10 23:25:36 sup phrag Jan 10 23:25:40 hello Squall` Jan 10 23:25:58 ohh, damn it, the mail is in my linux disk Jan 10 23:25:58 " all =P Jan 10 23:26:01 * acidkill looks for an empty beer bottle...not finding one says hi to phrag.... Jan 10 23:26:04 phrag: hi. =) Jan 10 23:26:17 oi oi Jan 10 23:26:17 <-- alphahawk has quit () Jan 10 23:26:27 got slackware 10 today! Jan 10 23:26:32 came in the post quick Jan 10 23:26:39 from subscription, remember ? Jan 10 23:26:41 acidkill, :O Jan 10 23:26:42 phrag: You just now got 10? Jan 10 23:26:43 YOU DID?! Jan 10 23:26:44 phrag, beat me Jan 10 23:26:55 Straterra: indeed. 625KB/s is sweet. =) Jan 10 23:26:55 Artimus: i subscribed last week! Jan 10 23:27:00 phrag: Ahh... Jan 10 23:27:01 I hate you Jan 10 23:27:02 :) Jan 10 23:27:04 lol. Jan 10 23:27:05 we2by: pat likes me =) Jan 10 23:27:09 heh Jan 10 23:27:10 phrag: wow talking about quick service :P Jan 10 23:27:11 upload is still only ~45KB/s though. Jan 10 23:27:12 I just downloaded the iso's Jan 10 23:27:13 i know Jan 10 23:27:17 very impressed Jan 10 23:27:34 <-- str has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 23:27:38 however, i did sped over $100 there few weeks ago Jan 10 23:27:40 <[M4rk0]> see ya Jan 10 23:27:41 acidkill, that is what I have too Jan 10 23:27:44 <-- [M4rk0] has quit ("I Use SimpleIRC v3.2 XP - Get This Script At http://www.mostarac.net") Jan 10 23:27:55 maybe that's why... but from us to uk, very good Jan 10 23:28:26 phrag: cleaned out slackware while the dollar is down eh? Jan 10 23:28:32 yep =) Jan 10 23:28:34 360kbit upstream Jan 10 23:28:41 us is great Jan 10 23:28:48 It is? Jan 10 23:28:50 :O Jan 10 23:28:59 phrag, try living here Jan 10 23:29:08 yea, something like that. Jan 10 23:29:16 phrag: makes up for the extra tax you have to pay. Jan 10 23:29:27 --> rignes (~rignes@000D615723FD.msns.sm.ptd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:29:30 All of that freedom BS you are supposed to have..exists more on paper than in the towns and cities Jan 10 23:29:44 camera a friend of mine wants, sony dvd201e... 520GBP here, so like $1000.... in us it is $600 Jan 10 23:29:52 --> tbird (1000@pcp09788624pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:29:57 <-- UQlev (~yuriy@ykulyev.logos.cy.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 10 23:30:01 <-- Marverick has quit ("Marverick has no reason") Jan 10 23:30:03 Straterra: try living somewhere else for a bit. Jan 10 23:30:09 acidkill, what modem do you have? Jan 10 23:30:11 XGizzmo: agreed Jan 10 23:30:17 XGizzmo, If I could, I would Jan 10 23:30:31 Straterra: no one is stopping you Jan 10 23:30:36 i had a...toshiba PCX2500 i think. now i have a linksys WCG200. Jan 10 23:30:37 I wouldn't mind if a country didn't claim freedom of speech and ect Jan 10 23:30:38 Straterra: what does that have to do with the price of fish ? Jan 10 23:30:39 Straterra this howto is for upgrade from 9.1 to 10. I got 9 running. is it ok? Jan 10 23:30:42 powered by cisco IOS. Jan 10 23:30:44 rada, yeah Jan 10 23:30:48 acidkill, damn Jan 10 23:30:56 XGizzmo, there are several things stopping me Jan 10 23:30:57 WCG200 is pretty sweet. Jan 10 23:31:09 AcidChild: you hacked cisco IOS onto it ? Jan 10 23:31:13 phrag, nothing really Jan 10 23:31:18 acidkill: Jan 10 23:31:28 wireless gateway with b/g 4 port hub, and usb. Jan 10 23:31:40 I want one of those Jan 10 23:31:45 acidkill: my linksys BEFDSR41W tommorrow Jan 10 23:31:47 phrag, u didnt want me....? Jan 10 23:31:50 acidkill: is that what is on it ? Jan 10 23:31:51 ah i see. Jan 10 23:31:52 nvm Jan 10 23:31:53 AcidChild: no Jan 10 23:31:53 They gave me a cheapie RCA POS modem Jan 10 23:32:04 phrag: no, that was stock. i looked into getting linux on it, but didnt see anything online about it. Jan 10 23:32:16 acidkill: think this will... http://www.linksys.com/international/product.asp?coid=6&ipid=181 Jan 10 23:32:34 didn't know they ran IOS Jan 10 23:32:43 that is nice =) Jan 10 23:33:08 acidkill, how do YOU guys get better equipment than us? Jan 10 23:33:13 ttp://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=33&scid=35&prid=579 Jan 10 23:33:16 what i have. Jan 10 23:33:17 Do you pay more per month or something? Jan 10 23:33:31 linksys runs the cisco software? Jan 10 23:33:31 no, i bought the linksys on my own. Jan 10 23:33:42 acidkill, I meant the modem Jan 10 23:33:44 that was my question Jan 10 23:33:52 Straterra: the linksys is a modem. =) Jan 10 23:33:57 wireless cable gateway. Jan 10 23:34:00 acidkill, what modem did they give you? Jan 10 23:34:32 http://www.toshiba.com/taisnpd/products/pcx2500.html Jan 10 23:34:36 does anyone here know much about mirroring ports with a switch? (i need some extra info on it) Jan 10 23:34:40 thats what they gave me. Jan 10 23:34:47 acidkill: the fact is does not mention IOS specifically on that model, i will assume they all do Jan 10 23:35:07 i havent looked too much into it... Jan 10 23:35:20 acidkill, with that new modem..did you have to call them up and give them the MAC or anything" Jan 10 23:35:22 ?^ Jan 10 23:35:25 Or just plug it in and go? Jan 10 23:35:44 Straterra: they have to have the mac Jan 10 23:36:56 yea, had to have a tech come out to do it. Jan 10 23:37:00 --> cbpye (~cbpye@pcp02333439pcs.bartlt01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:37:09 i tried to get them to add my new MAC to their DB, but they didnt want to do that. Jan 10 23:37:26 so, they scheduled a time for a tech. he called in, told them the MAC, and was done. Jan 10 23:37:29 guys, weird problem here. Jan 10 23:37:33 acidkill, LoL Jan 10 23:37:36 Waste of time Jan 10 23:37:37 exactly/ Jan 10 23:37:37 acidkill: they charge you for that call? Jan 10 23:37:44 hell no. Jan 10 23:37:47 I need to get on the horn and yell at my ISP Jan 10 23:37:50 I'm typing, but then all of a sudden a keyyy will repeat like,,,, 50 times. Jan 10 23:37:55 see? Jan 10 23:38:06 cbpye: clean your keyboard. Jan 10 23:38:09 <-- vurte (~haluk@pD953A8AB.dip.t-dialin.net) has left ##slackware Jan 10 23:38:10 Ever since my ISP got bought out my BrightHouse, my service has been CRAP Jan 10 23:38:15 <-- nachox has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 23:38:26 It's really annoying and it's adverseeely affecting my ability to play World of Warcraft/ Jan 10 23:38:32 i have brighthouse, but havent had any problems. Jan 10 23:38:33 --> foureyes779 (~theron@65-102-149-233.tukw.qwest.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:38:38 what add will play shoutcast streams from terminal? Jan 10 23:38:43 that comes on the slackware disks Jan 10 23:38:54 AcidChild, I think mplayer will Jan 10 23:39:04 acidkill, how do you get in touch with them? Phone? Jan 10 23:39:10 i dont think its installed. Jan 10 23:39:11 It's not dirty, and nothing's stttuck in it. Jan 10 23:39:13 mplayer -playlist bleh.pls Jan 10 23:39:14 No instant-chat thingy like Earthlink has? Jan 10 23:39:15 and it's a random key. Jan 10 23:39:17 ah. Jan 10 23:39:20 cool :D Jan 10 23:39:23 and scroll-behavior is oddd. Jan 10 23:39:29 AcidChild, oh yeah..mplayer doesn't come with Slack..sorry Jan 10 23:39:35 --> csch (~cesar@201.12.34.2) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:39:36 i've never had to talk to them besides calling the tech support number, and talking to someone there. Jan 10 23:39:36 ah =/ :( Jan 10 23:39:43 xmms Jan 10 23:39:43 does mpg123 play em? Jan 10 23:39:52 for adding the MAC for the linksys that is. Jan 10 23:39:52 does xmms run in terminal? Jan 10 23:39:55 xine is cli also is it noy? Jan 10 23:40:00 not Jan 10 23:40:11 no, my bad Jan 10 23:40:45 anything like mpg122 or amp play em? Jan 10 23:41:30 hi... I'm having some problems to upload a file using ftp Jan 10 23:41:41 550 Requested action not permitted. Jan 10 23:41:56 ... Jan 10 23:41:57 does anybody know what this means ? Jan 10 23:42:17 the action is not permitted. Jan 10 23:42:41 --> n2iko (n2iko@ool-182c5a59.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:42:42 is anyone here familiar with MS Exchange/ Jan 10 23:43:06 lol Jan 10 23:43:29 csch, if I were u, I would check the permission the dir u are trying to upload to Jan 10 23:43:49 and the .conf for allowing upload/anon upload. Jan 10 23:44:46 I can find 0 reasons WHY my modem keeps dying Jan 10 23:44:53 This is the second modem I have, too Jan 10 23:45:16 Same model, but different modem.. Jan 10 23:45:18 what kind of modem Jan 10 23:45:31 RCA DCM245 Jan 10 23:45:44 can u please speak english? Jan 10 23:45:54 I am? Jan 10 23:46:10 It's a RCA DCM245 modem Jan 10 23:46:26 * we2by googles Jan 10 23:47:37 --> kino (michael@2001:618:400:0:0:0:43a4:ae81) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:47:49 alsaconf command doesn't see any sound devices on my system.. but I have 2 Jan 10 23:48:09 we2by: what permission are the correct ? Jan 10 23:48:10 nvida nforce sound and audigy 2.. I compiled my kernel with audigy 2 drivers builtin Jan 10 23:48:20 so why can't alsaconf see it Jan 10 23:48:22 csch, depends Jan 10 23:48:23 I have permissions to do this Jan 10 23:48:38 csch, prove me Jan 10 23:48:46 -rw-r--r-- Jan 10 23:48:47 are u sure u do have? Jan 10 23:48:56 who owns that dir? Jan 10 23:49:03 kino, they need to be modules Jan 10 23:49:05 mykilx, you trying to set it up or get evolution to work with it? Jan 10 23:49:08 and with what user are u logged in? Jan 10 23:49:13 me Jan 10 23:49:15 modules? ok.. Jan 10 23:49:18 all files and dirs Jan 10 23:49:40 man I hate recompiling the kernel.. such a pita Jan 10 23:49:56 csch, sure? Jan 10 23:50:13 smoke_: i want to connect to it to get/send email Jan 10 23:50:34 yes Jan 10 23:50:41 smoke_: the IT guy said this can not be done securely, and thus doesn't want to enable me to do it Jan 10 23:50:55 csch, cam u read the log files? Jan 10 23:51:05 yes Jan 10 23:51:10 messages ? Jan 10 23:51:13 find anything? Jan 10 23:51:19 he said "why not use webmail" :/ Jan 10 23:51:43 smoke_: the exchange server is in NY, i'm in FL Jan 10 23:51:46 <-- kino has quit (Client Quit) Jan 10 23:52:27 I don't see how pop3 is even less secure than HTTP Jan 10 23:52:37 i would have thought that exchange would have an option to not allowing a user to send mail, without first recieving Jan 10 23:52:39 Unless the HTTP uses SSL Jan 10 23:53:07 Straterra: he says to enable pop3(and also imap) would allow exchange to be used as an open relay Jan 10 23:53:27 Why are you using exchange, BTW? Jan 10 23:53:35 Why not just use a client..like Outlook? Jan 10 23:53:42 Or kmail or something Jan 10 23:53:45 i'm not, the company i work for just switched to an exchange server Jan 10 23:53:47 we2by: what log you say Jan 10 23:53:54 we2by: local or remote ? Jan 10 23:54:01 What are you trying to do? Jan 10 23:54:02 the log file ur ftpd logs to? Jan 10 23:54:06 remote, Jan 10 23:54:11 i need to be able to send and recieve through the company's exchange server Jan 10 23:54:17 remote I don't have access Jan 10 23:54:30 but it works in another machines Jan 10 23:54:33 mykilx, then..use a client Jan 10 23:54:43 Straterra: ? you make no sence Jan 10 23:54:45 outlook Jan 10 23:54:47 I think that the problem is with my box Jan 10 23:54:48 You make to sense Jan 10 23:54:54 argg i deleted these partitions reformated and installed slack and its still booting as mandrake. Jan 10 23:55:02 If you need to send/receive email through their server, why would you need exchange? Jan 10 23:55:14 You need a client to send/receive the emails through their server Jan 10 23:55:26 Straterra: i run linux, and use sylpheed for my email client, the company uses exchange for their email Jan 10 23:55:30 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-209-214-151-90.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:55:40 Ok Jan 10 23:55:46 What's the problem? Jan 10 23:55:46 csch, how about contact the system administrator? Jan 10 23:55:46 i need to connect to their exchange server with sylpheed to get/send email Jan 10 23:55:50 Ok Jan 10 23:55:56 Again..the problem? Jan 10 23:55:59 i'm not running exchange they are Jan 10 23:56:03 Ok.. Jan 10 23:56:12 They need to enable pop3 and stuff then Jan 10 23:56:22 they say that there is no problem. Jan 10 23:56:22 If they refuse to, then you have to use the web based client Jan 10 23:56:34 I try 2 different server Jan 10 23:56:38 same error Jan 10 23:56:51 the problem being that one of their IT guys does not want to enable neither pop3 or imap, because in doing so "exchange would become an open relay" and therefore a security risk Jan 10 23:57:01 that isn't true Jan 10 23:57:08 csch, so the problem is ur pc Jan 10 23:57:14 or ur ftp client Jan 10 23:57:15 Straterra: well that's what i'm trying to deduce Jan 10 23:57:16 I know what i did wrong :) Jan 10 23:57:16 If he uses some sort of authentication..then it wouldn't be an open relay Jan 10 23:57:18 What a moron Jan 10 23:57:27 <-- rada (~rada@r3x178.chello.upc.cz) has left ##slackware Jan 10 23:57:29 <-- epic has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 23:57:37 Straterra: well i know zilch about exchange, that's why i'm asking Jan 10 23:57:46 Straterra: moron is to nice of a word Jan 10 23:57:47 mykilx, no need to know exchange Jan 10 23:57:50 silly AP didnt wasnt configured how i had it before. Jan 10 23:58:00 Tell him to make it authenticated Jan 10 23:58:07 was broadcasting SSID, no encryption, and didnt have MAC filtering on. Jan 10 23:58:10 And let him figure it out..its his job, not yours Jan 10 23:58:14 acidkill, LoL Jan 10 23:58:16 That sucks Jan 10 23:58:18 we2by: I know... but what problem ? Jan 10 23:58:19 :S Jan 10 23:58:24 umask ? Jan 10 23:58:27 linksys needs to put batterys in their deviced to keep settings after power outages. Jan 10 23:58:29 No essid broadcast, no encryption, mac filtering here Jan 10 23:58:29 <-- _xtree has quit () Jan 10 23:58:40 acidkill, mine keeps settings after power outages Jan 10 23:58:45 csch, I don´t know. mhh can u try port mode? Jan 10 23:58:45 My router does, anyway Jan 10 23:58:46 Straterra: i would have thought it would have been as simple as authentication, but... Jan 10 23:58:52 <-- McDutchie has quit ("Leaving") Jan 10 23:58:59 i need to get a UPS soon anyway. Jan 10 23:59:34 my ups was one of the best pieces of hardware i ever bought Jan 10 23:59:43 csch, in ur ftp client options/preference, there are two options to transfer files. pasive and port. maybe u are using pasive. give port mode a try Jan 10 23:59:45 --> kino (michael@2001:618:400:0:0:0:43a4:ae81) has joined ##slackware Jan 10 23:59:59 snd_pcm_hw_open open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed: No such file or directory Jan 11 00:00:04 when trying to play an ogg file Jan 11 00:00:06 --> twisted_ (~twisted@208.44.198.205) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:00:23 <-- tbird has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 11 00:00:31 Straterra: so the short of it is, exchange can allow remote access securely, without it becoming an open relay? Jan 11 00:00:37 Yes Jan 11 00:00:38 --> rada (~rada@r3x178.chello.upc.cz) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:00:47 Exchange is such a gay server to use though Jan 11 00:00:53 where does dmesg take the info from? Jan 11 00:00:56 Windows servers? Jan 11 00:01:00 rada, /var/log/dmesg I think Jan 11 00:01:09 we2by: hhumn.... can be Jan 11 00:01:14 yes Jan 11 00:01:15 Straterra: i know that, you know that, but the clueless management at the company i work for doesn't Jan 11 00:01:20 we2by: what's the difference ? Jan 11 00:01:24 varlogdmsg Jan 11 00:01:38 Life is to much easier when you don't have to worry about Win32 viruses and worms Jan 11 00:01:44 Straterra, don't use diction that makes you look like an idiot Jan 11 00:01:46 man what an asshole that guy was, i wanted to stab him through the phone Jan 11 00:01:48 csch, I don´t know exatly the. u can google it. but I know some ftp servers does not allow pasive modem Jan 11 00:01:48 I don't have dmesg file in /var/log Jan 11 00:01:52 Squall`, I'm not Jan 11 00:01:57 exchange is a POS Jan 11 00:02:00 mode* Jan 11 00:02:01 Exchange is such a gay server to use though Jan 11 00:02:14 It is Jan 11 00:02:18 <-- eelriver has quit () Jan 11 00:02:20 that shows me a lack of command of using the English language Jan 11 00:02:29 WTF are you talking about? Jan 11 00:02:41 --> fskn (~chino@pcp09995929pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:02:42 Straterra, figure it out Jan 11 00:02:42 we2by: to change to port Jan 11 00:02:46 ftp> passive Jan 11 00:02:46 Passive mode on. Jan 11 00:02:46 ftp> passive Jan 11 00:02:46 Passive mode off. Jan 11 00:02:46 <-- nixor has kicked csch from ##slackware (flood) Jan 11 00:03:00 or use lftp Jan 11 00:03:01 Some of us don't use 500,000,000 words and make ourselves look like arrogant pricks Jan 11 00:03:04 how do i echo but take the place of the last output ? Jan 11 00:03:09 --> csch (~cesar@201.12.34.2) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:03:13 so that it doesn't scroll the page Jan 11 00:03:13 Straterra, so you call something gay? Jan 11 00:03:16 gawk? Jan 11 00:03:16 sorry Jan 11 00:03:20 Straterra: i have warned about calling random inanimate objects gay, in the channel Jan 11 00:03:25 csch, try port Jan 11 00:03:39 Sorry. Jan 11 00:03:43 ftp> port Jan 11 00:03:43 ?Invalid command Jan 11 00:03:43 Using exchange is a poor choice Jan 11 00:03:46 There Jan 11 00:04:01 maybe this: Jan 11 00:04:03 ftp> passive Jan 11 00:04:03 Passive mode off. Jan 11 00:04:03 I would add that it is a TERRIBLE choice for any serious email server Jan 11 00:04:07 just that /var/log/messages doesn't contain errors that I can see from dmesg command Jan 11 00:04:10 ... Jan 11 00:04:10 csch, I am not familiard with console sotware though Jan 11 00:04:15 maybe help Jan 11 00:04:20 how do i make output a echo go over the last output so that it doesn't scroll down the screen or in the case of echo -n it doesn't append i want it to replace the last text... Jan 11 00:04:21 some might even say homoh Jan 11 00:04:30 In help i dont find PORT Jan 11 00:04:31 <-- smoke_ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 00:04:33 homophobic* Jan 11 00:04:34 Squall`, and I would appreciate it if you didn't talk down to me. Jan 11 00:04:36 just PASSIVE Jan 11 00:04:36 fskn: gawk Jan 11 00:04:38 err Jan 11 00:04:41 thanks Jan 11 00:04:44 phrag, I am not homophobic Jan 11 00:04:48 csch, can u just turn pasive mode off? Jan 11 00:04:49 well i'm sure the company that sold them the server told them it's the best thing since sliced bread Jan 11 00:04:51 i might have not grasped your question properly Jan 11 00:04:52 and give it a try? Jan 11 00:04:55 --> tbird (1000@pcp09788624pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:05:03 mykilx, M$? Jan 11 00:05:17 no, their IT is not in house Jan 11 00:05:30 Of course M$ would say that. Could have saved money and went with better software Jan 11 00:05:31 yes Jan 11 00:05:33 I did Jan 11 00:05:51 Straterra, what does M$ mean? Jan 11 00:05:54 csch, and? Jan 11 00:05:55 --> Caveman (~biocorp@2001:db0:100a:0:0:0:0:2) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:05:55 i would imagine MS has some sort of "kick back" program for companies such as these Jan 11 00:05:58 does it work? Jan 11 00:05:58 Micr$soft Jan 11 00:06:06 whatever the legal way of doing that is Jan 11 00:06:07 mykilx, what do you mean? Jan 11 00:06:09 csch: I dont get your question Jan 11 00:06:35 <-- Cirkit has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 00:06:37 hey ya everyone Jan 11 00:06:41 http://rafb.net/paste/results/y2UQ8l54.html Jan 11 00:06:50 well an IT comapny that sets up networks and manages them, i would assume would get some money from MS for installing MS products Jan 11 00:07:06 * phrag resinates Jan 11 00:07:19 send??? Jan 11 00:07:24 csch: try lftp Jan 11 00:07:25 isn´t it put? Jan 11 00:07:29 resinates? Jan 11 00:07:40 the proper command is put, yes Jan 11 00:07:50 --> noobieisme (~sam@pool-141-155-26-37.ny325.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:07:51 <-- noobieisme has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 00:08:08 --> noobie (~sam@pool-141-155-26-37.ny325.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:08:08 <-- noobie has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 00:08:51 same error :S Jan 11 00:08:58 use lftp please Jan 11 00:09:03 lftp binary@ftp.binary.com.br:/www/oralmed/cad_horarios_vagos> put cad_horarios_vagos.php Jan 11 00:09:03 put: Access failed: 550 Requested action not permitted. (cad_horarios_vagos.php) Jan 11 00:09:13 <-- kino has quit ("out") Jan 11 00:09:18 <-- cbpye has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 00:09:20 csch, did u login? Jan 11 00:09:59 yes Jan 11 00:10:16 u really should contact the admin Jan 11 00:10:17 if I can type ls Jan 11 00:10:19 hmmm any one know how to take an ac3 and up the volumn in it ? Jan 11 00:10:22 I'm logged in Jan 11 00:10:24 right ? Jan 11 00:10:51 yep, Jan 11 00:10:54 <-- rada (~rada@r3x178.chello.upc.cz) has left ##slackware Jan 11 00:11:24 do u have enough space? Jan 11 00:11:49 quote exceed? Jan 11 00:12:04 yes, no Jan 11 00:12:11 all are right Jan 11 00:12:18 <-- fskn (~chino@pcp09995929pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) has left ##slackware Jan 11 00:12:24 <-- ICeSToRM has quit ("BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") Jan 11 00:12:26 contact the server admin then Jan 11 00:12:28 Does anyone know of a decent alternative to logsentry for monitoring logfiles for you? One that preferably keeps monitoring and not just check every hour.. Jan 11 00:12:32 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 00:12:43 tail? Jan 11 00:12:46 :P Jan 11 00:12:52 hehe Jan 11 00:13:03 no something to send emails on events.. Jan 11 00:13:03 and watch Jan 11 00:14:09 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:14:18 evil root! Jan 11 00:14:48 Who? Jan 11 00:15:05 traterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) is binnengekomen bij ##slackware Jan 11 00:15:11 --> epic (~epic@220.80-202-211.nextgentel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:15:13 I don't use root Jan 11 00:15:28 sorry, it is r00t Jan 11 00:15:56 :P Jan 11 00:16:00 I'm in Windows, sooo Jan 11 00:16:04 * we2by beats Straterra Jan 11 00:16:08 <-- Artimus has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 00:16:10 so am I Jan 11 00:16:24 and win xp home edition Jan 11 00:16:25 * raela feels her stomach try to eat itself. Jan 11 00:16:46 radi0head, I´m starving too :( Jan 11 00:16:46 raela, I know the pain Jan 11 00:16:50 --- nixor removes ban on *!*@c-24-19-150-201.client.comcast.net Jan 11 00:16:55 raela, wanna cook something together? Jan 11 00:17:03 I can feel it grinding :( Jan 11 00:17:14 we2by: I think there's something cooking in the over Jan 11 00:17:28 Tacos cooking here Jan 11 00:17:50 I might get taco sauce on my "The box said 'Requires Windows 98 or better' so I installed Linux" shirt..bleh Jan 11 00:18:11 hehe Jan 11 00:18:45 some one teach me how to cook Jan 11 00:18:49 * we2by googles Jan 11 00:19:31 we2by: could be firewall ? Jan 11 00:19:44 csch, I don´t think so Jan 11 00:19:58 since u can login, u can also transfer files. atleast I think so Jan 11 00:20:08 --> xemon (~zxemon@65.171.164.98) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:20:10 --> dwolf (~unknown@dwolf.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:20:23 xemon Jan 11 00:20:40 --> kino (michael@2001:618:400:0:0:0:43a4:ae81) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:20:49 --> Sandman1 (~ravic@sandman1.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:21:23 mmm all I have left to do for my graduation project is present and write a reflection paper Jan 11 00:21:31 <-- SlackFart has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 00:22:25 <-- dwolf has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 00:22:51 raela: hmmm you could just say "Tune In, Turn On, Tune Out. Fin" Jan 11 00:23:16 raela, what are u studying? Jan 11 00:23:43 --> SlackFart (~el_fart0@dc51468581.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:24:05 --> cbpye (~cbpye@pcp02333439pcs.bartlt01.ga.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:24:17 hey raela Jan 11 00:25:43 hey Sandman1, you ever have a weird problem that kept you from running Wine (or WineX) and caused your typing to randomly repeat characters? Jan 11 00:25:52 no Jan 11 00:25:54 srry Jan 11 00:26:02 I just really dropped by Jan 11 00:26:05 :) Jan 11 00:26:32 its nice to know you are ok Sandman1 :) Jan 11 00:26:40 Caveman, thxx Jan 11 00:28:09 nologo: I just have to point to my website Jan 11 00:28:16 we2by: in hs, not college Jan 11 00:28:20 Sandman1: 'ello Jan 11 00:28:23 ohh Jan 11 00:28:59 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 00:29:40 --> ppj (~eatyourli@pool-70-18-150-49.norf.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:30:04 <-- XGizzmo has quit ("going going gone") Jan 11 00:30:17 <-- boerst has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 11 00:30:30 --> dwolf (~unknown@dwolf.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:31:41 is there a cursor package on slackware cd? (im trying to get xorg to work) Jan 11 00:32:14 theres font..... Jan 11 00:32:42 yea i installed everything from x/ Jan 11 00:32:45 --> Satchmo (~1033B8DCA@adsl-213-249-185-191.karoo.KCOM.COM) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:32:58 whats the error Jan 11 00:33:16 could not open default cursor font 'cursor' Jan 11 00:33:30 you install the fonts? Jan 11 00:33:41 <-- we2by has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 00:33:42 everything from /x Jan 11 00:33:43 ryan@Sandman1:/var/log/packages> ls -l | grep x11 | wc -l Jan 11 00:33:44 12 Jan 11 00:34:17 --> we2by (~we2by@dc5146d009.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:34:49 <-- Squall` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 00:34:54 hmm i got 9 packages Jan 11 00:35:03 hm Jan 11 00:35:07 ls -l and see if you have the fontrs Jan 11 00:35:07 fonts Jan 11 00:36:04 4 fonts packages Jan 11 00:36:33 hm Jan 11 00:36:54 http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2002/07/msg00096.html Jan 11 00:37:00 but it's debian Jan 11 00:37:05 1 sec Jan 11 00:37:14 I can't remember my root pwd, this sucks Jan 11 00:37:24 Sandman1: hehe, Jan 11 00:37:27 live cd time :) Jan 11 00:37:28 http://pastebin.com/227392 Jan 11 00:37:30 Caveman, na init=/bin/sh Jan 11 00:37:36 my /bin/sh == /bin/zsh Jan 11 00:37:37 ;) Jan 11 00:37:38 init=/bin/bash time ;-) Jan 11 00:38:10 Sandman1 yes i have those , just not docs etc Jan 11 00:38:32 hm Jan 11 00:38:52 anything EXTRA in /var/log/Xorg.0.log Jan 11 00:39:12 could not open default 'cursor' - maybe wrong dir/premissions somewhere Jan 11 00:39:19 doubt that Jan 11 00:39:23 check in the log file , it may have more info Jan 11 00:39:30 well Jan 11 00:39:33 Caveman, time to root my own box Jan 11 00:39:39 hehe Jan 11 00:39:47 * Sandman1 finds out what the kde exploit was Jan 11 00:39:50 <-- adjacent has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 11 00:40:31 <-- ximpul has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 00:40:34 nope can't use that kde one, I must restart Jan 11 00:40:46 * Caveman bashes Sandman1 with his root pwd Jan 11 00:40:51 lol Jan 11 00:40:54 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:41:00 I do have 1 account that has su without a pwd Jan 11 00:41:05 but that has /bin/rzsh due to drunk proofing Jan 11 00:41:12 there's Could not init font path element /uswr/X11R/lib/X11/fonts/local/, removing from list! Jan 11 00:41:14 long time ago Jan 11 00:41:28 --> Lordrflctn (1000@195.174.95.187) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:41:30 <-- csch (~cesar@201.12.34.2) has left ##slackware Jan 11 00:41:32 and after that comes the fatal error with the cursor not found msg Jan 11 00:41:40 --> adjacent (~scott@63.209.153.101) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:41:42 slackem, ok here is what I would do, reinstall the X packages with upgradepkg --reinstall Jan 11 00:41:44 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:41:48 slackem: the first error is not important Jan 11 00:42:05 <-- slackem has quit () Jan 11 00:42:12 --> slackem (~w00t@ool-182c5ff6.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:42:17 sry Jan 11 00:42:29 Sandman1 can u repeat ur last msg or two Jan 11 00:42:39 slackem, ok here is what I would do, reinstall the X packages with upgradepkg --reinstall Jan 11 00:43:11 i have all packages in one dir Jan 11 00:43:54 ok doin it now Jan 11 00:45:10 should alsa support be compiled as a module or in the kernel? Jan 11 00:45:17 --> ptlo (~senko@cmung144.cmu.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:45:39 --> jnx (~jnx@marvin.ynet.sk) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:45:47 I compile in as a module Jan 11 00:46:15 --> Kurt (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:47:52 when I select 'M' in menuconfig.. alsamixer gives : function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory Jan 11 00:48:23 I don't know what to do.. sound doesn't work at all Jan 11 00:48:55 ogg123 says Could not load default driver and no driver specified in config file. Jan 11 00:49:09 kino, load the module Jan 11 00:49:11 cat /proc/asound/cards Jan 11 00:49:26 --> inflex (~PLD@dsl-171.156.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:49:28 shows my Audigy2 Jan 11 00:49:34 on what # Jan 11 00:49:40 lsmod shows snd_emu10k1 (the driver for me card) is loaded Jan 11 00:49:46 *my Jan 11 00:49:47 ok as "root" run alsamixer Jan 11 00:49:50 kino: whats alsamixer say Jan 11 00:49:51 ? Jan 11 00:49:56 --> djspark (~djspark@cable-59-63.sssnet.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:50:14 Sandman1: it is number 0, the only card listed Jan 11 00:50:29 alsamixer says function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such file or directory Jan 11 00:51:01 kino: that was root ? Jan 11 00:51:10 yes Jan 11 00:51:33 I'm missing all the devices files /dev/snd/* Jan 11 00:51:36 --> Zelenka (~rhap@82-69-21-60.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:51:38 makedev Jan 11 00:51:56 kino: um ok.. try makedev Jan 11 00:52:00 hmmmm Jan 11 00:52:02 kino, bloody udev Jan 11 00:52:03 looks like you are missing a few things :) Jan 11 00:52:11 kino, you have 2.6 kernel? Jan 11 00:52:18 2.6.10 Jan 11 00:52:25 yep Jan 11 00:52:27 kino, you like udev? Jan 11 00:53:54 I have never really understood the whole /dev stuff :) Jan 11 00:54:04 Caveman, there is a minor and a major # Jan 11 00:54:13 ryan@Sandman1:~> ls -l /dev/urandom Jan 11 00:54:13 crw-r--r-- 1 root root 1, 9 Jan 10 08:10 /dev/urandom Jan 11 00:54:21 I know about things like that Jan 11 00:54:24 ahhh Jan 11 00:54:24 and /dev/null etc etc Jan 11 00:54:25 <-- Zelenka has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 00:54:27 Sandman1 im reinstalling everything Jan 11 00:54:31 I must be missing some kernel option somewhere else Jan 11 00:54:33 slackem, k Jan 11 00:54:35 i just didnt install fonts-misc package Jan 11 00:54:37 I've never heard of udev I use freebsd Jan 11 00:54:38 kino, its udev being a pos Jan 11 00:54:38 I just dont know about the udev vs whatever Jan 11 00:54:39 is it important? Jan 11 00:54:39 its gota be Jan 11 00:54:48 Caveman, ok static devs mean they stay, don't go away Jan 11 00:54:50 on the harddrive Jan 11 00:55:00 OH ok. Jan 11 00:55:01 but udev is a _userland_ version of devfsd, but better Jan 11 00:55:08 it makes the devs automaticly Jan 11 00:55:13 I see. Jan 11 00:55:17 I can't stand it Jan 11 00:55:20 even on a mac I hate it Jan 11 00:55:22 I wonder what debian uses ... Jan 11 00:55:23 hmm Jan 11 00:55:25 type Jan 11 00:55:28 ps -aux | grep -i udev Jan 11 00:55:34 ps -aux | grep -i devfs Jan 11 00:55:58 and btw its /dev/MAKEDEV Jan 11 00:56:00 err ok. Jan 11 00:56:08 I am getting a error with that command !! Jan 11 00:56:09 wtf Jan 11 00:56:11 lol Jan 11 00:56:16 wonder if I typed it in right Jan 11 00:56:20 Caveman..in..##slackware?! Jan 11 00:56:20 its been a while since Ive been on linux Jan 11 00:56:22 :O Jan 11 00:56:26 What is the world coming to?! Jan 11 00:56:30 I thought you used Debian?! Jan 11 00:56:35 Straterra, he used to use Slackware Jan 11 00:56:41 Straterra: I use debian Jan 11 00:56:42 hes a good guy though Jan 11 00:56:45 He he Jan 11 00:56:52 I have my reasons for saying in this um channel. Jan 11 00:56:54 Debian is on my list of Distros to try Jan 11 00:56:59 Sandman1, Do you have a mac? Jan 11 00:57:03 eelriverlt, na Jan 11 00:57:05 eelriverlt, friend does Jan 11 00:57:06 --> ky00rius (~george@modem-1897.lynx.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:57:10 eelriverlt, I have several Jan 11 00:57:15 eelriverlt, first thing I did was get outa its gui, so I disabled the gui, then messed around Jan 11 00:57:16 ;) Jan 11 00:57:16 My server has two! Jan 11 00:57:20 <-- ky00rius (~george@modem-1897.lynx.dialup.pol.co.uk) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 11 00:57:28 Sandman1: both those commands returned nothing !! LOL Jan 11 00:57:30 Sandman1, A friend of mine does too Jan 11 00:57:34 Caveman, then you use static devs, ;) Jan 11 00:57:38 eelriverlt, its nice Jan 11 00:57:40 COOL :D Jan 11 00:57:46 eelriverlt, I like macs, I want to save up for one, but I only have 600 Jan 11 00:57:46 * Caveman pats debian Jan 11 00:57:56 * Sandman1 would have 650 if he didn't spend it on RUM Jan 11 00:57:59 Sandman1: have you heard about the headless IMAC ? Jan 11 00:58:02 in dmesg ALSA device list: No soundcards found. Jan 11 00:58:06 Caveman, not yet Jan 11 00:58:08 Caveman, Ive been in a whole Jan 11 00:58:22 Sandman1: http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0412expo2.html Jan 11 00:58:29 hole* Jan 11 00:58:38 Sandman1, Macworld is here in SF this week, I'm debating if I want to go or not. I worked that show in 1991 and it was hell. Jan 11 00:58:44 Sandman1: thats cool. Jan 11 00:58:44 --> MacGuyver (~amaral@200.228.96.224) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 00:59:01 <-- twisted_ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 00:59:21 Caveman, now thats nice Jan 11 00:59:26 Sandman1: here are the photos http://engadget.com/entry/1234000110026534/ Jan 11 00:59:29 Sandman1, Plus the iBooks look pretty nice, I might have to spend too much money Jan 11 00:59:36 ha Sandman1 fonts-misc is a minimal set of fonts to run X (i thought it's just misc fonts i won't need lol) Jan 11 00:59:36 I want a powerbook Jan 11 00:59:48 slackem, hehe Jan 11 00:59:57 brb gonna try to reconfigure xorg.conf and see if it works (it should now thou) Jan 11 01:00:34 --> ph0enix (~phoenix@201-003-141-230.nhoce7005.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:01:28 damn Sandman1 u da man Jan 11 01:01:37 worked w/o a hitch (autoconfigure heh) Jan 11 01:01:59 wonder how long my mouse will last wiht one battery led Jan 11 01:02:18 --> Straterra_ (~root@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:02:18 --- nixor sets ban on *!~root@* Jan 11 01:02:18 <-- nixor has kicked Straterra_ from ##slackware (banned: It is very dangerous to IRC as root. Please return under a user account.) Jan 11 01:02:27 Ow Jan 11 01:02:28 hm Jan 11 01:02:30 That hurt Jan 11 01:02:35 slackem, thanks Jan 11 01:02:43 * Straterra attacks nixor Jan 11 01:02:50 LOL Jan 11 01:03:09 oh dear.. I see somethings just dont change. Jan 11 01:03:23 * Sandman1 cranks up the VAN HALEN!!!!! Jan 11 01:03:24 Like what? Jan 11 01:03:26 but i dont have the mouse for X (x is only for VNC to the server ) so the only way to turn it off is to kill heh Jan 11 01:03:33 his love songs rule Jan 11 01:03:35 Sandy, I do need your help though Jan 11 01:03:37 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:03:39 Straterra, Do you have a problem with your internet connection? Jan 11 01:03:40 I need to use my CD-R on my server Jan 11 01:03:42 eelriverlt, yes Jan 11 01:03:51 slackem, try /dev/input/mice for your mouse Jan 11 01:03:54 actual device Jan 11 01:03:58 yes sound works.. I just compiled everything in the kernel instead of as modules Jan 11 01:03:58 Straterra, cdrecord works Jan 11 01:04:05 I thought so Jan 11 01:04:06 god linux is confusing Jan 11 01:04:09 Sandy, I gotta setup ide-scsi emulation Jan 11 01:04:12 kino, see its probably udev screwing up Jan 11 01:04:14 Sandman1 not connected to the server(there's no mouse) Jan 11 01:04:14 Straterra, ew use 2.6 Jan 11 01:04:18 Sandy, I was.. Jan 11 01:04:21 slackem, ;) trust me Jan 11 01:04:26 slackem, well it might work better Jan 11 01:04:27 and i cant switch between screen while in X (to kill it lol) Jan 11 01:04:29 But then I patched my kernel and it panicked on boot Jan 11 01:04:33 So..I gotta recompile Jan 11 01:04:41 slackem, hmmm vnc you say? Jan 11 01:04:44 <-- Roa has quit () Jan 11 01:04:45 Straterra, oh Jan 11 01:04:49 Sandman1: probably but I don't want to touch it now that it's working Jan 11 01:04:50 * Caveman listens to Linkin Park - Hit The Floor Jan 11 01:04:54 Straterra, ok I think its append = "hdb=ide-scsi" Jan 11 01:04:57 kino, k Jan 11 01:04:58 Sandman1 it's not yet installed (wanted to get X to work first) Jan 11 01:05:00 kino, Linux is just different, when you get used to it you'll see most things make perfect sense Jan 11 01:05:00 <-- kino has quit ("out") Jan 11 01:05:02 Thanks Jan 11 01:05:02 but i cant quit now lolz Jan 11 01:05:05 --> Roa (~wer@dsl-200-95-11-183.prod-infinitum.com.mx) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:05:11 <-- WhiteRabbit has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 01:05:12 slackem, k I have a tightvnc package on a server I think Jan 11 01:05:16 er Jan 11 01:05:18 sorry guys Jan 11 01:05:23 I haven't touched *nix in like 4 or 5 days Jan 11 01:05:25 awesome Jan 11 01:05:41 Sandman1: lol Jan 11 01:05:50 not even a computer actually Jan 11 01:05:52 in 4 or 5 days Jan 11 01:05:53 ftp://termserver.niesc.org/pub/sandman1/tightvnc-1.2.9-i486-2.tgz Jan 11 01:06:07 there ya go slack Jan 11 01:06:10 slackem* Jan 11 01:06:11 <-- ximpul has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 01:06:14 I see I get auto complete screwed up Jan 11 01:06:20 hehe Jan 11 01:06:23 Sandman1, Did you get the shakes and night sweats and stuff? Jan 11 01:06:27 eelriverlt, hehe Jan 11 01:06:33 thanks Sandman1 Jan 11 01:06:51 heya Sandman1 Jan 11 01:06:55 hey Legendre Jan 11 01:07:10 --> Kurt2 (kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:07:18 sandy, where ya been? Jan 11 01:07:22 When I went fishing for a couple days, I made it a point NOT to bring my laptop. Jan 11 01:07:37 thr1ce, taking a mental break Jan 11 01:07:37 :) Jan 11 01:07:42 I needed it, long story Jan 11 01:07:42 don't wanna talk about it Jan 11 01:07:45 understandable Jan 11 01:09:58 hwo are you? Jan 11 01:11:48 not bad Jan 11 01:14:51 hm, I know how to get lilo to boot into vesa frambuffer (vga = 778 for example). How do you get it to boot into one of the built-in vga modes? Like, those available from vga=ask.. Jan 11 01:15:03 --> nomasteryoda (~nomastery@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:15:18 I think you just type the actual # in the vga = Jan 11 01:15:19 don't you? Jan 11 01:15:36 hmm.. are they all two-digit? Jan 11 01:15:40 makes sense.. Jan 11 01:16:00 I dunno Jan 11 01:16:01 Id have to look Jan 11 01:16:07 Sandman1 - guess what? I got my accelerated X working finally ;) Jan 11 01:16:11 sweet Jan 11 01:17:40 c-ya #slackware Jan 11 01:17:47 c-ya in a few days, or somthing, I dunno Jan 11 01:18:14 * Sandman1 -BowS- Jan 11 01:18:15 <-- Sandman1 has quit ("Love Yas") Jan 11 01:21:22 sucessfully install slack. to bad i cannot be around to install it for its real use :) off to work. Jan 11 01:21:51 wonder what that means? Jan 11 01:22:00 --> moshe (~moshe@ool-18bab348.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:22:01 hello Jan 11 01:22:03 <-- harryvv has quit () Jan 11 01:22:08 does anyone here run a box with a broadcom nic? Jan 11 01:23:09 Hey y'all.. I've gotten some initial work on my slackware-emulators thingy. Jan 11 01:23:12 http://nerp.net/~legendre/emuslack/ Jan 11 01:24:12 --> christo (~chris@212.18.226.160) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:24:26 can anybody spot the error in the following bit of bash? let "$number = $number % $RANGE" Jan 11 01:24:47 the quotes? Jan 11 01:24:48 <-- Kurt has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 11 01:25:26 <-- slicslak has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 01:25:30 I get line 23: let: 17428 = 17428 % 20: attempted assignment to non-variable (error token is "= 17428 % 20") Jan 11 01:25:32 bash is not perl Jan 11 01:25:43 aaaah I see it Jan 11 01:25:54 okay fixed Jan 11 01:26:02 you can also do Jan 11 01:26:13 number=$(($number%$RANGE)) Jan 11 01:26:19 * foureyes779 w00t's Jan 11 01:26:21 --> slicslak (~slicslak@S01060050bf73737f.ed.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:26:25 * Squall` slices foureyes779 to bits with a katana Jan 11 01:26:30 no broadcom users? Jan 11 01:26:30 (don't put spaces aroung =) Jan 11 01:26:32 owned. Jan 11 01:26:44 I use Broadcom Jan 11 01:26:46 --> Artimus (~Artimus@66-168-2-157.cli.wi.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:26:53 POS propriatary cards Jan 11 01:26:56 did you have any issues installing the b44 drivers? Jan 11 01:27:13 moshe, I have a Broadcom WLAN card Jan 11 01:27:32 I downloaded some drivers from broadcom's website, and I get an init_module error when I try to run insmod on it like the instructions tell me. Jan 11 01:27:38 Straterra, mine's a nic. Jan 11 01:27:48 <-- slackem has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 01:27:50 Well, so is mine. Jan 11 01:27:53 It's just WLAN Jan 11 01:28:04 mine's not wireless Jan 11 01:28:09 <-- nomasteryoda has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 01:28:33 I was given a machine to use, and I'm trying to get linux running on it. Jan 11 01:28:33 I tried and failed to install mandrake and suse via ftp. Jan 11 01:28:38 slackware, my first choice, won't play with the nic. Jan 11 01:28:46 Slackware? Jan 11 01:28:59 It's not Slackware..it would be the Linux kernel and/or any patches Jan 11 01:29:17 slackware is an unpatched kernel, no? Jan 11 01:29:34 You can use any kernel Jan 11 01:29:39 But most people use a vanilla kernel Jan 11 01:29:47 I use bareacpi.i Jan 11 01:30:07 I just want it to work. Jan 11 01:30:50 <-- tbird has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 11 01:31:07 moshe, there might be native support for it in the kernel, without Broadcom drivers Jan 11 01:31:19 which module would I have to enable? Jan 11 01:31:31 I saw nothing in the list for Broadcom. Jan 11 01:32:30 I remember seeing something about broadcom support.. Jan 11 01:32:32 --> Kyle_S (~kyle@c-24-12-143-3.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:33:26 I'm looking in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules and I see nothing for broadcom Jan 11 01:33:38 ... Jan 11 01:33:46 cd /usr/var/linux Jan 11 01:33:48 make menuconfig Jan 11 01:33:50 is there somewhere else to use? Jan 11 01:34:02 You can recompile the kernel with support Jan 11 01:34:08 whoa Jan 11 01:34:10 <-- christo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 01:34:14 that's something I have never done. Jan 11 01:34:36 It's not hard Jan 11 01:35:00 and since it's a machine I've never used in production before, I can just start clean if I frag the system. Jan 11 01:35:04 http://slackwiki.org/Kernel_Compilation Jan 11 01:35:32 --> TheBeast (~betzivu@dsl-66-225-165-10.vianet.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:35:55 <-- ptlo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 01:36:23 I guess there's no time like the present to give it a shot. I'll have to try it tomorrow when I get to the office. Jan 11 01:36:28 I need some help about fscking one of my partitions. I have't done this before, perhaps somebody can help me. Jan 11 01:36:45 just incase you guys haven't seen it yet, Grsecurity has a uselib() patch for 2.6.10 (although ive yet to figure out how to exploit it on slackware) -> http://www.grsecurity.net/linux-2.6.10-secfix-200501071130.patch Jan 11 01:36:46 I guess the partition needs o be unmounted before fscking it Jan 11 01:37:21 for those of you on 2.4.28 -> http://www.grsecurity.net/linux-2.4.28-secfix-200501071141.patch Jan 11 01:38:30 <-- At0mic_PC has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 01:38:38 that implies recompilling the kernel Jan 11 01:38:40 mm Jan 11 01:38:46 <-- Kurt2 has quit ("Given a sufficiently strong spring, any Maglite battery compartment cover is impossible to close.") Jan 11 01:39:13 well it *is* a kernel exploit Jan 11 01:39:28 well, I'm recompilling it right now Jan 11 01:39:43 halt it and apply the diff and start it over Jan 11 01:39:47 but first, please tell me how to fsck my disk :| Jan 11 01:40:19 boot from the slack cd to make sure the disk you are fsck'ing is not mounted Jan 11 01:40:34 ok, I already know that Jan 11 01:40:45 but, I dunno the arguments that i have to pass to fsck Jan 11 01:40:47 im not sure if fsck'ing a journaled FS is a bad idea just incase you have one Jan 11 01:41:10 I only have ext3 Jan 11 01:41:17 thats journaled Jan 11 01:41:37 <-- moshe has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 01:41:39 yea Jan 11 01:42:07 man fsck.ext3 Jan 11 01:42:15 <-- Artimus has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 01:43:37 mmm, it says that first it will apply the journal. is that a risk of loosing data ? Jan 11 01:44:23 <-- Kyle_S_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 01:45:03 --> XGizzmo (~gizzmo@xgizzmo.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:45:07 its possible, if the box went down inbetween a write, the journal will undo that last write Jan 11 01:45:59 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:46:02 <-- s0ulslack has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 01:46:03 btw I just ran 'fsck.reiserfs /dev/md/0' and it seemed to work nicely (after umount /dev/md/0 of course) Jan 11 01:46:08 <-- defile has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 01:46:10 --> s0ulslack (soul@usr-if-11.rmci.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:46:26 --> Kirill (opera@240ppp13.telegraph.spb.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:46:35 <-- aedigital has quit ("(Digital): [BX] iTs bEttEr tO bUrN oUt tHaN tO fAdE aWaY") Jan 11 01:47:33 Hello, im have a trouble. Im cant mount my cd-rom on Slackware 9.0 Please Help. Jan 11 01:47:34 <-- Drag0n has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 01:47:53 Kirill: whats the error? Jan 11 01:48:26 <-- Daedric has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 01:48:55 --> Daedric (~noneof@82.154.210.69) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:49:51 my cdrom doesn't read cd-rws Jan 11 01:49:55 damn it Jan 11 01:50:15 it just hangs writing, and "cp" says that was an output/input error Jan 11 01:50:18 so-on: ide-scsi Jan 11 01:50:36 Kirill: What type of CD you trying to mount? Jan 11 01:53:37 --> Kirill1 (opera@69ppp12.telegraph.spb.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:54:40 --> nomasteryoda (~nomastery@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:54:56 <-- mmu_man has quit ("Vision[0.9.6-0203]: i've been blurred!") Jan 11 01:56:57 IDE CD-Rom Jan 11 01:57:22 that took you a darn long time Jan 11 01:57:32 --> lozlap (awx@82.76.44.123) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 01:57:42 what device is assigned for your cdrom ? Jan 11 01:57:55 got a problem. how do i chmod a dir fosr all users to see it but cannot modify its conyent ? Jan 11 01:57:59 content* sorry Jan 11 01:58:57 chmod u=r dir or smthg like that Jan 11 01:59:00 <-- Kirill has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 01:59:05 --- Kirill1 is now known as Kirill Jan 11 01:59:07 I'll have to learn those numbers Jan 11 01:59:42 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 02:01:01 Kirill: I didn't ask what type of drive, I asked what type of disk. Data, CDDA? Jan 11 02:01:21 how do i see how many megs do I have in /usr ? ls -l /usr doesn't work Jan 11 02:01:31 there was an argument for ls but I forgot it Jan 11 02:01:32 TheBeast: try du Jan 11 02:01:40 Data disk Jan 11 02:02:21 Kirill: Ok. What command are you using to mount, and what errors you getting? Jan 11 02:03:00 TheBeast: and if /usr is it's own partition, df will tell you that. I like both commands with the -h option. Jan 11 02:04:04 not wotking Jan 11 02:04:52 later Jan 11 02:04:54 Now im in windows, i'm using mount /dev/cdrom, error i'm forgot... Jan 11 02:04:55 FriedBob: thanks Jan 11 02:04:56 <-- TheBeast has quit ("leaving") Jan 11 02:05:29 Kirill: Ok, is /dev/cdrom in your /etc/fstab? Jan 11 02:05:32 <-- DieRatte2 has quit ("Back to life, Back to Reality") Jan 11 02:06:02 yes Jan 11 02:06:31 Kirill: maybe you should come back when your running slackware. Jan 11 02:06:44 --> SlackShrike (~robinho@200165121034.user.veloxzone.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:06:54 i'm have a winmodem... Jan 11 02:08:00 I shall specify what there was a mistake and shall come later Jan 11 02:08:27 <-- Kirill (opera@69ppp12.telegraph.spb.ru) has left ##slackware Jan 11 02:09:10 <-- SoulSurvivor has quit () Jan 11 02:09:11 off topic: does anyone here know if you need a country code to call canada? Jan 11 02:09:15 or just an area code? Jan 11 02:09:36 chris-^: Calling from the US? Jan 11 02:09:42 FriedBob: yes Jan 11 02:11:02 chris-^: My guess would be yes, but dunno for sure. Jan 11 02:11:08 drat Jan 11 02:11:25 as I want to call a friend of mine who is in hospital tomorrow morning before they go into surgery to wish them well Jan 11 02:11:41 chris-^: i do not think you do Jan 11 02:12:05 XGizzmo: thats what I think too but I want to be sure Jan 11 02:12:37 chris-^: you have the area code? Jan 11 02:12:46 yes Jan 11 02:12:51 <-- web_knows has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 11 02:13:14 chris-^: let me have the area code Jan 11 02:13:19 oh wait Jan 11 02:13:20 fuck Jan 11 02:13:22 no I don't Jan 11 02:13:28 I need to get it from her fiance Jan 11 02:13:29 tonight Jan 11 02:13:30 city? Jan 11 02:14:07 charlottetown on PEI Jan 11 02:15:29 chris-^: you do not need country code Jan 11 02:15:47 XGizzmo: thank you muchly sir Jan 11 02:16:20 --> Kirill (~opera@ppp-67.pool-572-1.spbnit.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:16:31 wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom, Jan 11 02:16:32 or too many mounted file systems Jan 11 02:16:32 (could this be the IDE device where you in fact use Jan 11 02:16:32 ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?) Jan 11 02:16:32 <-- nixor has kicked Kirill from ##slackware (flood) Jan 11 02:16:35 chris-^: i think the area code is 902 Jan 11 02:16:41 --> Kirill (~opera@ppp-67.pool-572-1.spbnit.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:16:50 Kirill: WB Jan 11 02:16:53 * chris-^ writes that down Jan 11 02:17:32 --> thebholdr (~thebholdr@mail.pitc.gov.ph) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:17:39 Kirill: OK, are you using ide-scsi, or do you have it enabled? Jan 11 02:17:57 is there a way in linux i can force all browsers in the network to point to the company's website without going to individual workstations? Jan 11 02:19:04 <-- ph0enix has quit ("weeeee") Jan 11 02:19:19 how about would i go setting up a system so i can install linux over a network?\ Jan 11 02:19:20 thebholdr: i do not see how you could. Jan 11 02:19:27 it enabled Jan 11 02:19:31 How many people are running a stock kernel? And for those who have patched ones, what are some good patches? Jan 11 02:19:46 Kirill: try mounting /dev/sda or /dev/sda1. Jan 11 02:19:58 <-- SlackShrike has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 02:20:19 XGizzmo: isn't it possible to force it on the server side? Jan 11 02:20:24 --> Gurgeh (~Ybrido@200.56.164.3) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:20:36 --> evets (~steve@ppp-66-143-155-96.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:21:06 It is not present in /etc/fstab Jan 11 02:21:24 <-- Lordrflctn has quit ("[BX] Eat, drink and be merry...for tomorrow we die") Jan 11 02:21:44 thebholdr: like make it the home page or lock it to the company domain ? Jan 11 02:23:15 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:24:04 Kirill: As root, you can mount stuff w/o it being in /etc/fstab. Just mount Jan 11 02:24:12 XGizzmo: that means going to the 80 units and change the homepages of their browsers and later they can change them again... Jan 11 02:24:31 <-- Kirill (~opera@ppp-67.pool-572-1.spbnit.ru) has left ##slackware Jan 11 02:24:55 hi i have troble knowing how to configure my sound card. I have a pnp card, i know i have to use the pnptools, but what else i have to do Jan 11 02:24:57 what i want to force them to load the company website everytime they load their browsers. controlling on the server...any other idea? Jan 11 02:25:28 thebholdr, a proxy? Jan 11 02:25:40 Gurgeh, Um...alsaconf can do it Jan 11 02:25:53 says no card found Jan 11 02:26:19 --> Dominian (~dominian@dominian.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:26:23 And then you pick isa pnp Jan 11 02:26:30 And I think it searches again Jan 11 02:27:09 --> W|GG-Laptop (~deez@wigglit.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:27:28 i use squid proxy, any idea how i can do this in squid? Jan 11 02:27:29 W|GG-Laptop: Heya Jan 11 02:27:31 hi Jan 11 02:27:39 What's up? Jan 11 02:28:02 sup W|GGie Jan 11 02:28:13 not much...just checking email Jan 11 02:28:15 you guys? Jan 11 02:28:26 well isapnp says that the card is enabled ok then i run alsaconfing and says ther is no card. am i doing it worng? Jan 11 02:29:22 W|GG-Laptop: You got a slackbox, or you all *BSD and Mac? (or am I thinking of someone else, like Chandler?) Jan 11 02:29:36 Straterra: do you know how i can do that in squid proxy? Jan 11 02:29:42 No Jan 11 02:29:57 i've a slack box, a freebsd box, a debian box and a windows xp box Jan 11 02:29:59 thebholdr: Try asking in #squid or ##squid, if there is one? Jan 11 02:30:13 W|GG-Laptop: On Slack, you use a stock kernel or a patched one? Jan 11 02:30:21 both Jan 11 02:30:31 i run two kernels Jan 11 02:30:34 Ahh Jan 11 02:31:10 W|GG-Laptop: sandman stopped by. Jan 11 02:31:13 I'm looking for some patches, but not sure what I'm looking for or where to look. I'm in the process of googling, but getting too many results that are too spread out. Jan 11 02:31:20 FriedBob: i've tried that but nobody knows too.. Jan 11 02:31:41 thebholdr: man/info pages and docs? Forums or usenet? Jan 11 02:31:47 he did? Jan 11 02:32:00 yeah i noticed unixfool Jan 11 02:32:49 1h 14m 25s ago Jan 11 02:34:07 <-- thebholdr (~thebholdr@mail.pitc.gov.ph) has left ##slackware ("Client Exiting") Jan 11 02:34:27 What is the fstab line for samba shares? Jan 11 02:34:40 I can mount using mount -t smbfs blablabla Jan 11 02:34:53 something like that Jan 11 02:35:14 --> adjacent_ (~scott@63.209.153.101) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:35:45 --> Putz (~putz@ame-broadband2-ws-60.dsl.airstreamcomm.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:35:49 <-- Gurgeh has quit () Jan 11 02:36:02 how abouts do i setup an NFS server? Jan 11 02:36:15 lemme check the bot logs Jan 11 02:36:27 <-- Putz has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 02:36:30 --> Putz (~putz@ame-broadband2-ws-60.dsl.airstreamcomm.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:37:04 <-- epic has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 02:38:17 i still need to figure out why the stats keep showing sandman1 as appearing daily Jan 11 02:39:11 --> slackem (~w00t@ool-182c5ff6.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:39:17 and me as being seen 1 day ago Jan 11 02:39:17 --> ncognito (~richard@69-161-144-150.miamfl.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:39:51 <-- war- has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 02:40:36 Dominian: thats cuz we cant figure out how to get rid of you for real. Jan 11 02:40:45 XGizzmo: Easy Jan 11 02:41:06 hmmm Jan 11 02:41:15 --> aedigital (~aedigital@200-168-147-186.dsl.telesp.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:42:09 --> TheBeast (~betzivu@dsl-66-225-165-10.vianet.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:43:23 I have my /dev/hda3 mounted at "/stuff" and inside of it, I have a dir called "music" which has *lots* of stuff in it. now, i would like to know, how do i change the owner for the "music" dir and for all the files inside of it ? Jan 11 02:44:02 chown, look at the -r or -R flag, I forget which is for recursive. Jan 11 02:44:19 recursive was the key :-/ Jan 11 02:44:25 it's -R Jan 11 02:44:35 Knew it was one of the two. Jan 11 02:44:45 it would be chown "my user" -R /stuff/mydir ? Jan 11 02:45:07 I think so, yes, but double check with --help or man. Jan 11 02:45:21 is it possible to install linux by grabbing the images over ftp? Jan 11 02:45:31 yup, in fact it's chown options user file/dir Jan 11 02:45:41 --> MANOWAR^ (~MANOWAR^@cae88-105-179.sc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:46:16 --> boss302 (~boss302@69-162-25-109.stcgpa.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:46:24 Outpour: I know you can do it over nfs, not sure about ftp, probably depend on the distro. Jan 11 02:46:57 TheBeast: Been a while since I've chown'd anything. :) Jan 11 02:47:38 <-- toshin has quit ("-") Jan 11 02:47:43 damn I dunno how to create a sharelist for valknut :( Jan 11 02:47:59 I've added the dirs, but ... it says that the sharelist is empty Jan 11 02:48:12 --> deckmar (~deckmar@83.251.140.34) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:51:01 W|GG-Laptop: it dont look like the stats page is updateing at all. Jan 11 02:51:25 is it reading the wrong log file? Jan 11 02:51:27 FriedBob: how would i setup an NFS server (im trying to install slack 10) Jan 11 02:51:27 anyone compiled ffmpeg? Jan 11 02:51:54 Outpour: No idea, never messed with that. Jan 11 02:52:12 Statistics generated on Monday 10 January 2005 - 19:52:21 Jan 11 02:52:20 * W|GG-Laptop will troubleshoot Jan 11 02:52:24 wtf.. people from work calling me at home... LEAVE A VOICEMAIL! Jan 11 02:52:55 the current topic isn't showing though Jan 11 02:53:00 right Jan 11 02:53:34 i may need to migrate the logs...its taking over 2 min to parse the logs and cronjobs may be conflicting Jan 11 02:54:40 <-- rh0` has quit ("Abandonando") Jan 11 02:54:57 --> rh0` (~rolando@host-205-241-35-189.acelerate.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:55:18 BBL Jan 11 02:55:20 <-- FriedBob has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 11 02:55:22 cya Jan 11 02:55:38 <-- MANOWAR^ (~MANOWAR^@cae88-105-179.sc.rr.com) has left ##slackware ("Client exiting") Jan 11 02:55:43 <-- xemon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 02:55:48 huh.. someone calling for my wife Jan 11 02:56:55 --> tvn (~tvn@pcp0010250125pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:58:17 --> StevenR (~foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:59:04 <-- adjacent_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 02:59:10 night Jan 11 02:59:12 <-- TheBeast has quit ("leaving") Jan 11 02:59:27 --> xemon (~zxemon@65.171.164.98) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:59:28 --> slowdude (~slowdude@cpe-24-92-103-19.elp.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 02:59:28 --- nixor sets ban on slowdude!~slowdude@*.elp.rr.com Jan 11 02:59:28 <-- nixor has kicked slowdude from ##slackware (banned:this isn't Pot 101, I asked you to refrain from drug chat and its laws...see me when you're ready to comply with op guidance) Jan 11 03:00:37 heh Jan 11 03:01:04 Who set that one? Jan 11 03:01:11 * StevenR wanders drunkenly in Jan 11 03:01:24 StevenR, do you have the money? Jan 11 03:01:27 i did Jan 11 03:01:35 from that bet you owe me? Jan 11 03:01:35 You did? Jan 11 03:01:35 Squall`: eh? Jan 11 03:01:41 it was like, 400 dollars, man Jan 11 03:01:42 I would have figured that one to phrag Jan 11 03:01:45 you said you'd pay me today Jan 11 03:01:45 <-- teleyag has quit (Success) Jan 11 03:02:06 * StevenR drops a small thermonuclear device on Squall` Jan 11 03:02:08 Squall`, does this mean you don't have the money to pay me yet? Jan 11 03:02:17 AthlonRob, no Jan 11 03:02:28 DCC it over Jan 11 03:02:39 lol Jan 11 03:02:55 why don't you guys start betting "who set that ban?" Jan 11 03:03:04 ooh ooh! i know Jan 11 03:03:19 <-- tvn has quit ("Bye") Jan 11 03:03:21 pick me! Jan 11 03:03:25 lol Jan 11 03:03:32 <-- raindog has quit ("Later") Jan 11 03:04:19 I'm going to bed, Latre Jan 11 03:04:40 --> defile (~defile@unicron.ecr.navy.mil) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:04:41 <-- Straterra has quit ("Please..just..SHOOT ME IN THE HEAD!!!!") Jan 11 03:07:05 time to smoke Jan 11 03:08:23 * StevenR turns on the sprinklers, just to spite Dominian Jan 11 03:09:03 --> sdogi (~java@84-50-17-161-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:09:16 --> spenser (~spenser@cpe-065-185-193-128.nc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:10:32 <-- ryen has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 11 03:10:32 <-- logged has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 03:10:56 StevenR, where's my money? Jan 11 03:11:09 --> MoemarS (~m@CPE0004e23a0211-CM014500115762.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:11:47 Squall`: the dog ate it Jan 11 03:12:02 it's in the mail Jan 11 03:12:09 StevenR, bring me the dog Jan 11 03:12:25 <-- sdogi_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 03:12:26 it ran away to siberia Jan 11 03:12:35 bring me siberia, bring all of it to the US Jan 11 03:12:42 thats a lot of snow Jan 11 03:12:43 :/ Jan 11 03:12:52 ummm... Squall` ... we don't want siberia Jan 11 03:13:07 * StevenR dumps several million tons of snow on Squall` Jan 11 03:14:17 --> ryen (~ryen@83.72.184.157.ip.tele2adsl.dk) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:14:22 <-- [Granger] has quit () Jan 11 03:14:45 million tons... Jan 11 03:14:53 well that snow blower looks like it wasn't worth it now Jan 11 03:15:01 --> sdogi_ (~java@84-50-16-85-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:15:14 --> alcatel (09160@200-NAT.s-man.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:15:22 <-- clingen has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 11 03:16:26 <-- MoemarS has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 03:16:45 <-- Squall` has quit ("bye!") Jan 11 03:16:50 --- nixor removes ban on *!~root@* Jan 11 03:16:59 hey i want to run vncserver (starts at bootup ) so i have to put the command in rc.local right? Jan 11 03:17:04 * StevenR pokes nixor Jan 11 03:17:37 slackem: guess so, either that or write an init script for it Jan 11 03:18:01 and i would also like to start X at boot up (fluxbox) Jan 11 03:18:15 but in order to do that i have to login in text and type startx Jan 11 03:18:29 will it work w/o login in and just puttin startx in rc.local too? Jan 11 03:18:42 slackem: not a good idea Jan 11 03:18:49 you put it in rc.local and it starts as root Jan 11 03:19:15 but will it start the X thou? Jan 11 03:19:20 what is the alternative Jan 11 03:19:22 how do i add a dir to my "path" Jan 11 03:19:35 what i tried is when the box boots i ssh to it and do startx & Jan 11 03:19:43 so i can later on either ssh or vnc Jan 11 03:21:12 slackem: that's how I would do it Jan 11 03:21:35 --> Penumbral (~NA@ip4.83.dhcp-acs2.pdx.iinet.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:21:58 anyone here use oidentd? Jan 11 03:22:04 --> v3ctor (~v3ctor@12-202-172-136.client.insightBB.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:22:25 --> ^slacker^ (~cadavis@ip68-105-229-46.lu.dl.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:22:59 <-- dwolf has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 03:23:06 Dominian do u think starting vncserver in background through ssh is also a good idea? Jan 11 03:23:22 i mean im gonna only have to start both of em only when the server gets restarted Jan 11 03:23:23 i can't get my sound working. iv tried installiong diffenrt drivers and trried all the defult drivers, but the best i got was with oss i got the test souns to work but nothing else. Jan 11 03:23:36 which hopefully not gonna happen often ;) Jan 11 03:23:43 slackem: dunno about vncserver I use x11vnc myself Jan 11 03:24:04 is it built in vnc from X11? Jan 11 03:24:09 not built in Jan 11 03:24:12 do a google for x11vnc Jan 11 03:24:13 xtra? Jan 11 03:24:15 read up on it Jan 11 03:24:16 k Jan 11 03:24:25 hard to explain.. easier just to read the docs Jan 11 03:24:27 what exactly does autofs do? Jan 11 03:24:35 i'm configuring packages in an install Jan 11 03:24:51 --> Alan_Hicks (~alan@12.47.129.231) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:25:00 Outpour: iirc... it mounts file systems automatically when called Jan 11 03:25:09 er.. finds out what the file system is rather Jan 11 03:25:18 ah i see Jan 11 03:25:20 thanks Jan 11 03:25:21 automatically without mount -t smbfs,ext3 etc etc Jan 11 03:25:26 <-- Alan_Hicks (~alan@12.47.129.231) has left ##slackware Jan 11 03:25:32 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:25:33 Outpour: don't quote me on that.. just pulling from memory Jan 11 03:25:36 --> Alan_Hicks (~alan@12.47.129.231) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:25:42 sounds good to me ;) Jan 11 03:25:56 anyone know anything about getting sound working? Jan 11 03:26:06 speakers ? Jan 11 03:26:18 yes i have speakers and they are on and they work Jan 11 03:26:18 --> Gabrielsan (~gabriel@201009052005.user.veloxzone.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:26:29 I can get the driver test sounds even. Jan 11 03:26:31 <-- ^slacker^ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 03:27:02 what does lspci show you Jan 11 03:27:19 <-- sdogi has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 03:28:25 it tells me my sound card type. as well as a bunch of other info Jan 11 03:28:33 show me the line for your so undcard please Jan 11 03:29:56 00:0b.0 Multimidia audio controller: Creative labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 80) Jan 11 03:30:05 emu10k1 Jan 11 03:30:05 ok Jan 11 03:30:09 emu10k1.. Jan 11 03:30:10 :) Jan 11 03:30:10 do lsmod Jan 11 03:30:15 lsmod Jan 11 03:30:19 lol sorry Jan 11 03:30:22 hehe Jan 11 03:30:30 Do you see emu10k1? Jan 11 03:30:32 ok Jan 11 03:30:50 snd-emu10k1 Jan 11 03:31:04 yeah that's it Jan 11 03:31:13 well then yes i see it Jan 11 03:31:14 Did you compile a kernel yourself? Jan 11 03:31:33 Or are you using the stock kernel that came with Slackware? Jan 11 03:31:44 Im useing one that came with slack Jan 11 03:31:46 10 Jan 11 03:31:47 ok Jan 11 03:31:49 as root Jan 11 03:31:52 do alsaconf Jan 11 03:32:22 --> Gillette (~scrotum@CPE000d5659d23f-CM000a739a1839.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:32:41 then do some configuring? Jan 11 03:32:47 hola, trying to figure out how to compile .java files on slack 10, 2.4.27 kernel Jan 11 03:33:17 Penumbral: yeah Jan 11 03:33:38 <-- ncognito (~richard@69-161-144-150.miamfl.adelphia.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 11 03:33:39 Gillette: ever try googling.. as I've never knew you could compile .java on slackware Jan 11 03:33:51 well i guess the second part of that was all i ever needed Jan 11 03:34:02 <-- spenser has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 11 03:34:16 as for googling, try it some time, this is a hell of alot faster than searching through results Jan 11 03:34:24 <-- Gillette (~scrotum@CPE000d5659d23f-CM000a739a1839.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has left ##slackware Jan 11 03:34:28 it still dose not work. : / Jan 11 03:34:37 do i need to restart Jan 11 03:35:09 Hmm Jan 11 03:35:18 * Dominian makes a mental note not to help Gillette anymore Jan 11 03:35:19 --> nachox (Emi@200-122-57-97.dsl.prima.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:35:20 <-- v3ctor has quit ("dog farted") Jan 11 03:35:26 takes me 5 seconds to google most of my answers Jan 11 03:35:40 yeha i did try that before coming here Jan 11 03:35:47 lazy Jan 11 03:35:48 Penumbral: Did alsaconf see your sound card? Jan 11 03:35:57 yes it saw it. Jan 11 03:35:59 n2iko: yes.. Gilette was definitely lazy Jan 11 03:36:10 Penumbral: then you shouldn't have to restart... are you using KDE? Jan 11 03:36:14 yip Jan 11 03:36:25 try going to control panel and your sound server Jan 11 03:36:26 change it to use alsa Jan 11 03:36:36 thats what its set too. Jan 11 03:36:45 time to go.. Jan 11 03:36:48 wife home Jan 11 03:36:49 <-- Dominian has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 03:37:05 advanced linux sound architecture Jan 11 03:37:49 is anyone else here willing to help me? Jan 11 03:38:32 --> kspud (~sure@ip68-102-246-114.ks.ok.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:39:10 alsamixer Jan 11 03:39:17 shit damn 2 keyboards Jan 11 03:39:20 sorry all Jan 11 03:40:31 whats wrong? Jan 11 03:40:44 UdontKnow, around? Jan 11 03:40:52 --> ang_ (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:41:11 ? Jan 11 03:42:21 <-- Sklet has quit () Jan 11 03:42:43 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to W|GG-Laptop Jan 11 03:43:05 --- W|GG-Laptop has changed the topic to: test Jan 11 03:43:23 w00t it works! Jan 11 03:43:26 --- W|GG-Laptop has changed the topic to: Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support Channel - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | Anyone hearing from Sandman1, please /msg unixfool | Jan 11 03:43:48 W|GG-Laptop, whats wrong with sand? Jan 11 03:44:03 I've been wondering that too. Jan 11 03:44:27 thanks guys Jan 11 03:44:31 I asked unixfool if I could PM him earlier to ask him that but I never got a reply. Jan 11 03:44:41 <-- Penumbral has quit ("Client Exiting") Jan 11 03:45:30 * W|GG-Laptop isn't at his computer 24/7 Jan 11 03:45:32 --> PiterPunk (~punk@200.234.29.198) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:45:32 :o) Jan 11 03:45:50 <^Jenn> yea hes only there 23/7! Jan 11 03:46:00 some people were worried about him Jan 11 03:46:13 heh, hey ^Jenn Jan 11 03:46:17 <-- cbpye has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 03:46:19 W|GG-Laptop: PM? Jan 11 03:46:24 <^Jenn> hey Jan 11 03:46:24 * W|GG-Laptop rasberrys ^Jenn Jan 11 03:46:25 <^Jenn> later Jan 11 03:46:27 <^Jenn> lol Jan 11 03:46:30 .... Jan 11 03:46:40 * ^Jenn fly bys gunna go watch tv Jan 11 03:46:46 W|GG-Laptop: you read my mind Jan 11 03:47:01 i guess he's ok...he was in the channel earlier Jan 11 03:47:26 Sandman1 was here earlier? I haven't seen or heard from him in weeks. Jan 11 03:47:33 <-- ang_ (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) has left ##slackware ("Client exiting") Jan 11 03:47:34 still have to talk with him about that robrock stuff and why he never notified ops of the takeover Jan 11 03:47:51 yeah, he was in here around 6pm est Jan 11 03:47:54 W|GG-Laptop, i got a pm from him the other day, i mailed him the news and he replied saying that he was taking a break from the channel Jan 11 03:47:59 W|GG-Laptop: you did not get my message before ? Jan 11 03:48:04 W|GG-Laptop: PM ok ? Jan 11 03:48:08 k Jan 11 03:48:18 nachox: Doesn't explain why he hasn't been seen in #slacksec Jan 11 03:48:31 --> bri|zor (~bri|zor@pcp08364797pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:48:31 --> MoemarS (~m@CPE0004e23a0211-CM014500115762.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:48:36 --> ang_ (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:49:20 W|GG-Laptop, i doubt he has anything to do with that, i think he just wanted to help Jan 11 03:49:37 Alan_Hicks: embarrassed more that likly Jan 11 03:50:06 <-- juice has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 03:50:44 he used to be an op and has my personal email yet he didn't even hint at notifying anyone yet controlled the channel...that doesn't sit well with at least half the ops...he didn't even notify any server opers Jan 11 03:51:08 --> juice (~juice@mo-65-40-189-111.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:51:17 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:51:39 --> slk (~rodrigo@dsl-200-95-56-52.prod-infinitum.com.mx) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:51:48 Hello, is there some sort of Plesk but for slackware? Jan 11 03:51:58 XGizzmo: Y'all are starting to worry me. I know a little about him, but is there something I don't know? Jan 11 03:52:05 What is "Plesk" ? Jan 11 03:52:21 Alan_Hicks: where have youn been dude? Jan 11 03:52:23 server admin tool Jan 11 03:52:25 --- ang_ is now known as ang Jan 11 03:52:28 its like some sort of advanced webmin to manage a computer remote Jan 11 03:52:35 Ahh Jan 11 03:52:49 XGizzmo: Little bit of everywhere actually. Been real busy these past couple weeks. Jan 11 03:53:29 W|GG-Laptop, that doesnt mean much really Jan 11 03:53:37 --> MAN_Hater (~Too_Rude@adsl-70-240-79-106.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:53:43 Are there any docs/resources/etc that on "hardening" Slack? Most of my searches are Debian or RH specific. Jan 11 03:53:46 MAN_Hater: Oi oi Jan 11 03:53:57 oi oi bak @ yah *smile Jan 11 03:53:59 --> Drag0n (~dragon@c-67-162-246-16.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:54:00 So is there any admin tool like plesk for slackware? Jan 11 03:54:01 FriedBob: search userlocal.net Jan 11 03:54:40 it does to at least two ops. besides, he can state his case to me and phrag...he'll have a chance to explain himself. Jan 11 03:55:08 --> tsprin (~tom@ip68-11-218-247.br.no.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:55:10 <-- n2iko has quit ("leaving") Jan 11 03:55:21 <-- alcatel has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 03:55:26 --> michaelks (~michael@200165156081.user.veloxzone.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 03:55:48 W|GG-Laptop: That's the way it oughta be. Give him his chance to explain himself, but make damn well sure he knows the bind he put on y'all. Jan 11 03:55:55 * MAN_Hater goes all meek cuz the gawds are talking allpowerfull again Jan 11 03:56:03 Hmm, y'all really got me wondering too, but I don't really want to ask what happened as I wasn't there and figure it's not really my business. Jan 11 03:56:27 W|GG-Laptop, i doubt anyone told any server op till phrag did the next morning Jan 11 03:56:57 Alan_Hicks: In the process of installing and configuring SELinux, and found out it's not terribly wise to run a stock 2.6.7, so looking to see what I can do about that. Jan 11 03:57:23 * XGizzmo did not because he thought freenode staff was involved. Jan 11 03:57:39 FriedBob: Can't help you there. Not many people run SELinux, but Slackware's so generic the default docs for SELinux are the best place to look. Jan 11 03:57:54 <-- maddler has quit ("MORTE!") Jan 11 03:58:21 <-- tsprin has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 03:58:58 FriedBob, be aware that SELinux introduces a really bad preformance overhead (15-20%) Jan 11 03:59:05 Alan_Hicks: Not really. It's all almost all for Debian and/or RH. The patches on the NSA website are all Debian specific, actually. Been spending a lotta time in #selinux, but looking for some slack specific things right now, mostly some other patches. Jan 11 03:59:38 nachox: This box is a dual P90 that will be doing /very/ light router/server duty, shouldn't be too much of a problem. Jan 11 04:00:03 Like 5 or fewer other boxes on the LAN for the foreseeable future. Jan 11 04:00:16 k, just letting you know Jan 11 04:00:33 the difference is that robrock didn't op the whole channel, only sandman1, which is suspicious enough. when someone who had ops and used to be an op in this channel and had personal issues with ops gets opped by someone who took over the channel and then sits on ops for close to 5 hours without reversing the situation, it needs to be explained Jan 11 04:00:35 a dual p90? hehe Jan 11 04:00:47 So is there any admin tool like plesk for slackware? Jan 11 04:01:15 ang: Yeah, in it's former life it was an IBM PC Server 360 Jan 11 04:01:19 thanks for the concern though Jan 11 04:01:26 FriedBob: you know SELinux is kind of overkill dont you? Jan 11 04:01:30 W|GG-Laptop: Ooh... ouch. Didn't hear all this. Jan 11 04:01:36 XGizzmo: I know, but I want to play. Jan 11 04:01:40 hehe Jan 11 04:01:45 W|GG-Laptop: do you know any admin software for slackware? Jan 11 04:01:54 webmin? Jan 11 04:02:06 W|GG-Laptop, "had personal issues with ops"? thats new Jan 11 04:02:09 Besides webmin Jan 11 04:02:16 --> clingen (~clingen@pcp0011000508pcs.longhl01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 04:02:52 <-- mykilx has quit ("prepare for offblast 5, 4, 3, 1") Jan 11 04:03:14 nachox everyone has a personal issue with one op or another - it's just human to be so - (hence why I kidd the ops so much Jan 11 04:03:33 ?me won't tell which OP I have personal issues with *grin Jan 11 04:03:40 <-- nomasteryoda has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 04:03:46 MAN_Hater: All the male ones? ;P Jan 11 04:04:07 heh Jan 11 04:04:12 <-- PiterPunk has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 04:04:23 --> ska (~ska@200.48.53.74) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 04:04:24 --> nomasteryoda (~nomastery@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 04:04:43 * MAN_Hater pokes friedbob and now thinks Bob is cia cuz of SillYEnhancedLinux (grin - why not snort or rebuild that harden slackware distro Jan 11 04:05:29 MAN_Hater: I'll be installing snort, I'm looking ito other methods of hardening, and I'll be adding tripwire or lids or such as well. Jan 11 04:05:46 FriedBob: I've thought about starting a Slackware hardening project. Jan 11 04:05:56 I always though wearing "this server is run by SELinux - is like putting up a honeypot sign (here hit me Jan 11 04:06:13 please do alan Jan 11 04:06:22 MAN_Hater: And it's NSA that did SELinux, not CIA, and I'm neither, just have paranoid tendancies mixed with masochistic ones. Jan 11 04:06:39 Alan_Hicks: Sounds like it'd be fun, I'd love to help if I was able. Jan 11 04:06:46 MAN_Hater: I'm not doing it alone. Jan 11 04:06:59 cya all Jan 11 04:07:04 nachox: G'night Jan 11 04:07:11 FriedBob: I'm an easy man to get a hold of. You can find me at http://slackbook.lizella.net. Jan 11 04:07:13 some nice linux stuff has come from the NSA Jan 11 04:07:17 <-- nachox has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 04:07:23 hehe I know I was just kidding you (shuts up now cuz I am paranoid about the op gawds today and think I have wandered into an official today Jan 11 04:07:53 Alan_Hicks: I start school next monday, so gonna have like 0 time, unless I pull near all nighters. Jan 11 04:07:54 theres a nice hardening script they wrote...bastille Jan 11 04:08:04 "official channel" Jan 11 04:08:18 FriedBob: You can pull all-nighters if you're a real geek and drop your social life. Jan 11 04:08:23 I want to make a hardening script/app/etc and call it pr0n. Jan 11 04:08:32 And if you can't drop you're social life, I don't want ya! :-) Jan 11 04:08:34 real geeks have no social life to drop Jan 11 04:08:54 someone update this please (grin http://www.sastk.org/ Jan 11 04:09:09 Alan_Hicks: Other than the few hours a week I get with my GF, /this/ is my social life. Jan 11 04:09:18 Everything else is work and school. Jan 11 04:09:35 --> Marverick (~slack4eve@200-101-037-246.cbabm7006.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 04:09:40 FriedBob: You have a girl-friend! Turn in your geek badge now! Jan 11 04:10:25 Alan_Hicks: I met her in my accounting class last semester. Ain't giving her up. Jan 11 04:10:37 FriedBob: She got a sister? ;-) Jan 11 04:10:38 Well, one of the 4 I was taking. Jan 11 04:10:48 Alan_Hicks: Yeah, 2 of them. One is under age though Jan 11 04:11:13 FriedBob: Tell 'em you know a Slacker with empty Friday nights. :-) Jan 11 04:11:17 Haven't met either, but I think one is legal. Jan 11 04:11:25 Heh Jan 11 04:11:29 --- MacGuyver is now known as MacGuyver_ Jan 11 04:11:32 Both pretty wild, too Jan 11 04:11:39 <-- jamesbond has quit ("BitchX: nine out of ten gynecologists recommend it") Jan 11 04:12:07 * MAN_Hater hehe what an interesting signout Jan 11 04:14:19 <-- Marverick has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 04:14:45 --> Naota (~Naota@7-61.202-68.tampabay.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 04:14:54 Hey, people Jan 11 04:15:00 * MAN_Hater awaits more slandous rumours Jan 11 04:15:15 --> mykilx (mykilx@wbar10.tmp1-4-12-150-251.dsl-verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 04:15:27 Heh Jan 11 04:15:53 anyone pretty good with mplayer? nobody in #mplayer knows Jan 11 04:15:53 Well, registered for the userlocal forums now. Jan 11 04:16:11 <-- MoemarS has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 04:16:35 --> Marverick (~slack4eve@200-101-037-246.cbabm7006.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 04:16:56 --> Kurt (kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 04:18:12 thr1ce: depends, what's the problem? Jan 11 04:18:37 how do i get the kernel to detect my ethernet card/ Jan 11 04:18:54 ifconfig doesnt have any ethX devices listed Jan 11 04:18:55 here's the error: Jan 11 04:19:05 libdvdread: Could not open device with libdvdcss. Jan 11 04:19:05 libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading Jan 11 04:19:05 Couldn't open DVD device: /dev/dvd Jan 11 04:19:25 but lspci says: 01:0b.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc TRL8139 Ethernet (rev 10) Jan 11 04:19:51 thr1ce: is /dev/dvd linked to the right device? Jan 11 04:20:03 ang, yes; mount /dev/dvd will mount the dvd Jan 11 04:20:44 --> apeitheo (~apeitheo@81-pool1.ras10.nynyc-t.alerondial.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 04:24:10 <_erik> you should have built mplayer with its own libmpdvdkit instead of libdvdread Jan 11 04:24:33 i didn't install libdvdread Jan 11 04:24:37 i just compiled mplayer Jan 11 04:24:45 <_erik> well it looks to be using it Jan 11 04:24:52 needs it Jan 11 04:24:56 yes, i'm pretty sure it does by default Jan 11 04:25:26 <_erik> no, it comes with its own lib for playing encrypted dvds Jan 11 04:25:46 fsckin stats...reverted Jan 11 04:25:51 i just ./configure --enable-gui, make, make install Jan 11 04:25:52 libmpdvdkit yeah it has that or you can choose to use the other Jan 11 04:26:00 <_erik> what version Jan 11 04:26:01 and then got a skin, and ran gmplayer Jan 11 04:26:05 pre6 Jan 11 04:26:15 hey if i compiled module for my ide card can i just copy the module file to the /lib/modules//misc dir and delete source? Jan 11 04:26:35 <-- identd has quit (" ") Jan 11 04:26:56 libdvdcss you have that ? Jan 11 04:27:44 i didn't install any libs seperate; I have only compiled mplayer from source Jan 11 04:27:49 i didn't think I needed them if I did that Jan 11 04:28:01 <_erik> personally i would try ./configure --disable-dvdread Jan 11 04:28:30 <_erik> but it could likely be a gui problem, the gui has odd bugs Jan 11 04:28:42 i've never had a problem before Jan 11 04:30:19 does it read the dvd from term mplayer dvd://1 Jan 11 04:30:22 ? Jan 11 04:30:26 <-- ppj (~eatyourli@pool-70-18-150-49.norf.east.verizon.net) has left ##slackware Jan 11 04:30:45 anyone know why my slack install wouldn't detect my rtl8139 NIC? Jan 11 04:30:56 2.4.26 kernel Jan 11 04:31:33 Outpour: using modules or built in to the kernel? Jan 11 04:32:03 --> TheMuso (~luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 04:32:33 eh? Jan 11 04:32:37 modules Jan 11 04:32:45 on google found a site that says: Jan 11 04:32:48 in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules uncomment: Jan 11 04:32:48 ten you need to load the module Jan 11 04:32:55 ./sbin/modprobe 8139too Jan 11 04:33:09 how can i find out what line # that's on? Jan 11 04:33:21 <-- nomasteryoda has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 04:33:24 grep 8139too /etc/rc.d/rc.modules shows it's there :/ Jan 11 04:33:25 grep can tell you Jan 11 04:33:36 grep can give line numbers Jan 11 04:33:50 or use the search option in emacs, pico or, assuming it has one, vi Jan 11 04:33:51 its in there edit the file Jan 11 04:34:03 --> nomasteryoda (~nomastery@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 04:34:08 hey if i compiled module for my ide card can i just copy the module file to the /lib/modules//misc dir and delete source? Jan 11 04:34:41 --> s0ulspy (s0ulspy@200.103.60.160) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 04:35:44 --> NoUtRoS (1000@200.161.114.113) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 04:36:10 how can i determine the number to put in lilo.conf for the vga #? Jan 11 04:36:30 <-- Kurt has quit ("Total free-market capitalism: the ONLY moral system!") Jan 11 04:36:39 Set it to "ask" Jan 11 04:36:54 <-- Naota has quit ("BitchX: your way, right away") Jan 11 04:36:55 then see what your options are and use one of those. Jan 11 04:37:07 Unless it's the framebuffer stuff, then no idea. Jan 11 04:37:25 alright Jan 11 04:37:29 --> foo (~foo@foo.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 04:37:29 herm i uncommented that file Jan 11 04:37:34 Already, so I know Linus made Linux, but when were distributions made? Like Mandrake, Red Hat, SuSE ... how long until one was made Jan 11 04:37:38 and rebooted and the card still didn't show up Jan 11 04:37:43 Someone said Slackware is the oldest Jan 11 04:37:56 i did a modprobe 8139too Jan 11 04:37:57 foo: It's one of the oldest. Jan 11 04:37:59 <-- NoUtRoS has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 04:38:01 and still no :/ Jan 11 04:38:04 FriedBob: ah, ok Jan 11 04:38:27 foo: Have a look at distrowatch.com (.net?) Jan 11 04:38:40 It has lists of distros and I think dates and history. Jan 11 04:38:55 <-- s0ulspy (s0ulspy@200.103.60.160) has left ##slackware Jan 11 04:39:08 <_erik> Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt has a table of modes Jan 11 04:39:08 FriedBob: Nice, I'll check it out. Thanks Jan 11 04:40:56 Outpour: you're 100% sure tht's the right driver? Jan 11 04:41:04 yeah Jan 11 04:41:08 Outpour: there's also a 8139 Jan 11 04:41:10 i CAN'T get mplayer to work Jan 11 04:41:15 anyone else try pre6? Jan 11 04:41:34 thr1ce: i just compiled pre6 with ./configure --enable-gui and it works no problem Jan 11 04:41:45 thr1ce: worked fine for me Jan 11 04:41:48 <_erik> ya it works fine Jan 11 04:42:22 ang: modprobe 8139 : cannot locate module 8139 Jan 11 04:42:28 hey if i compiled module for my ide card can i just copy the module file to the /lib/modules//misc dir and delete source? Jan 11 04:42:31 ang: dmesg | grep eth0 gives: Jan 11 04:43:10 realtek trl8139 at 0xc29a1000, macaddress, IRQ 0 Jan 11 04:43:26 identified 8139 ship type 'RTL-8100B/8139D' Jan 11 04:43:50 Outpour: 8139too Jan 11 04:43:55 yeah Jan 11 04:44:16 i uncommented it in the /etc/rc.d/rc.modules file and modprobed it Jan 11 04:44:21 still doesn't show up Jan 11 04:44:36 reread dmesg Jan 11 04:45:57 eh? doesn't say anything about a 'too' but that's just part of the module name? Jan 11 04:46:30 --> PiterPunk (~punk@200.234.29.198) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 04:46:54 <-- nomasteryoda has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 04:48:51 --> Maverick (~slack4eve@200-101-037-246.cbabm7006.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 04:49:00 I compiled the 2.6.7 kernel, and I'm getting errors when I use it, 485 should be PENTIUM4, something to that effect...how do I fix that? Jan 11 04:49:10 <-- Marverick has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 04:49:22 I did change (in the menu) processor from 486 which was the default to Pentium 4, which is what I have... Jan 11 04:50:00 what is giving the errors? Jan 11 04:50:08 the kernel, when I boot it Jan 11 04:50:10 --> ptlo (~senko@cmung655.cmu.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 04:50:18 and dmesg is full of errors like that Jan 11 04:50:29 MAN_Hater: what did you want me to see? Jan 11 04:50:40 I used installpkg to install 2.6.7 source off the cd in /testing, if that makes any difference Jan 11 04:51:05 eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xd800, 00:0e:a6:79:da:d1, IRQ 22 Jan 11 04:51:05 eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D' Jan 11 04:51:12 same thing here outpour Jan 11 04:51:22 I think I did that as well, no problems. But I'm using i586 (dual P90) Jan 11 04:51:29 Outpour - mu mistake - I was wondering if you had rebooted (don't mind me I saw what you posted when I rescrolled (you modprobed - Jan 11 04:51:45 ang: but my IRQ is 0 ? Jan 11 04:51:53 i dont think it should be 0 Jan 11 04:51:54 yeah, that's peculiar Jan 11 04:52:03 --> Marverick (~slack4eve@200-101-037-246.cbabm7006.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 04:52:13 Outpour: Do you know what your IRQ should be? Jan 11 04:52:17 address seems kinda weird too Jan 11 04:52:23 not 0 :-\ Jan 11 04:52:26 Outpour if you have the line uncommented (removed the # - it should show up (if have the correct module namethat matches tour NIC model" Jan 11 04:52:50 hmmm Jan 11 04:52:55 i did an lspci -v Jan 11 04:53:05 n/m, address seems ok Jan 11 04:53:05 shows the card as a RTL8139 Jan 11 04:53:06 MAN_Hater: Out of curiosity, is your ")" key broken, or do you just not like it? ;P (just teasing some) Jan 11 04:53:43 ok...stats look fixed Jan 11 04:53:48 i did an lspci -vv says: Interupt: pin A routed to IRQ 0 Jan 11 04:54:05 friedBob I am not thru with the paragraph (: Jan 11 04:54:27 MAN_Hater: Heh. Just wondering, cause I don't think I've ever seen you use one. Jan 11 04:54:50 grr Jan 11 04:54:55 ok) just ) fo you) maybe) next time ) huh (??) Jan 11 04:55:01 Heh Jan 11 04:55:02 the module is loaded, and the kernel knows the card is there. Jan 11 04:56:18 maybe i should reboot again Jan 11 04:56:19 hmm, weird Jan 11 04:57:28 oh wait Jan 11 04:57:30 <-- boss302 has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 04:57:31 i just saw a message Jan 11 04:57:35 how do I keep the tux logo in the corner at 1024x768 when I compile 2.6.7? That's another thing I lost Jan 11 04:57:56 <-- Roa has quit () Jan 11 04:58:48 <-- apeitheo has quit ("Dead") Jan 11 04:58:58 PCI: No IRQ known for interupt pin A of device 01:0b.0. Please try using pci=biosirq Jan 11 04:59:08 then the eht0: lines Jan 11 04:59:51 <-- ska (~ska@200.48.53.74) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 11 05:00:17 googling Jan 11 05:00:21 Outpour: never seen that before. did you add pci=biosirq to your lilo.conf ? Jan 11 05:01:25 --> grey (~grey@Sudbury-HSE-ppp3984650.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:01:28 * W|GG-Laptop just realized his truck is like 5000+ lb Jan 11 05:01:41 no Jan 11 05:01:44 is tha what it means? Jan 11 05:01:46 ok; gmplayer will load a DVD when i run it as root, and only root Jan 11 05:01:49 how can I change this? Jan 11 05:01:57 Outpour: i believe so Jan 11 05:02:03 ok i'll try it then Jan 11 05:02:11 otherwise, it fails with /dev/dvd Jan 11 05:02:17 thr1ce: what are the permission on your dvd drive Jan 11 05:03:05 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2005-01-10 22:29 /dev/dvd -> /dev/hdb Jan 11 05:03:19 do that again on /dev/hdb Jan 11 05:03:31 thr1ce, add your user to group "cdrom" Jan 11 05:03:33 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 64 2002-06-09 15:27 /dev/hdb Jan 11 05:03:38 <-- IronBob has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 05:03:46 so, how can I change this? Jan 11 05:03:58 <-- luminaire has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 05:03:59 ok rebooting Jan 11 05:04:01 heh Jan 11 05:04:03 again_ Jan 11 05:04:37 --> nomasteryoda (~nomastery@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:04:45 --> omnistegan (~omnistega@S0106000ae6a090a7.cg.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:04:55 rh0` how? Jan 11 05:04:56 nope Jan 11 05:04:59 same message Jan 11 05:05:01 :\ Jan 11 05:05:10 thr1ce: well, you could chmod it I suppose, or add yourself to the disk group Jan 11 05:05:19 Outpour: how did you try to fix it? Jan 11 05:05:25 <-- ptlo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 05:05:27 chmod 777 /dev/hdb? Jan 11 05:05:35 wait Jan 11 05:05:43 no, i don't want writing, do i? Jan 11 05:05:48 thr1ce, i have this on /etc/groups: "cdrom::19:rolando" Jan 11 05:05:49 it's only dvd-rom Jan 11 05:05:50 hey, can anyone help me with a hardware problem? I just installed a new harddrive, how do i get slackware to recognize it? Jan 11 05:06:13 rh0`: yeah, mine is also cdrom, not disk Jan 11 05:06:27 how do I change it? Jan 11 05:06:30 ang: added pci=biosirq to my lilo.conf Jan 11 05:06:32 omnistegan: more info please (make and models of hardware Jan 11 05:06:35 chmod 777 is the quick&dirty way Jan 11 05:06:42 Outpour: did you re-run lilo ? Jan 11 05:06:54 lol Jan 11 05:06:57 <-- StevenR has quit ("slackware...simplicity in a tgz package :)") Jan 11 05:07:15 Maxtor harddrive, 160gig, unformatted, right now i am just interested in getting it formatted Jan 11 05:07:19 no need for 777, 666 Jan 11 05:07:28 worked :) Jan 11 05:07:30 777 worked Jan 11 05:07:31 omnistegan: did it show up at least when you booted? Jan 11 05:07:35 shall i change to 666? Jan 11 05:07:38 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 05:07:41 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Ottawa-ppp326812.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:07:44 in the bios? i didnt see Jan 11 05:07:54 omnistegan: no, when slack booted Jan 11 05:07:55 it should have, there is no reason why it shouldnt have Jan 11 05:08:17 <-- Maverick has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 05:08:25 i didnt see it show up when slack booted, nothing but my 2 partitions showed up under cfdisk Jan 11 05:08:43 ang: oh oops no.. but i just did and i get the error Jan 11 05:08:49 <-- Alan_Hicks (~alan@12.47.129.231) has left ##slackware Jan 11 05:08:56 unreognized token pci at or above line blah blah... Jan 11 05:09:04 token "pci" at * Jan 11 05:09:13 Outpour: Then you need to re-edit your lilo.conf Jan 11 05:09:46 I had some probs with lilo earlier, cause I forgot how to use the append option. Jan 11 05:10:06 what would i edit to fix it Jan 11 05:10:14 i just added the line "pci=biosirq Jan 11 05:10:15 " Jan 11 05:10:17 Outpour: ahh, where did you put the line pci=blahlbah at? Jan 11 05:10:21 should i use spaces? Jan 11 05:10:23 thanks ang, rh0` Jan 11 05:10:26 :) Jan 11 05:10:32 thr1ce: np :) Jan 11 05:10:40 damn...the president Judy Genshaft, of USF where i used to go, got a $51k pay increase. her salery is now $371K. Jan 11 05:10:43 daym!!! Jan 11 05:10:45 still opped Jan 11 05:10:48 --- ChanServ removes channel operator status from W|GG-Laptop Jan 11 05:11:24 Outpour: oh, try appened="pci=biosirq" Jan 11 05:11:26 <-- thr1ce has quit ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") Jan 11 05:11:44 anyone randomly get this when trying to ssh to a machine? "ssh_askpass: exec(/usr/libexec/ssh-askpass): No such file or directory" Jan 11 05:12:12 W|GG-Laptop: Heh Jan 11 05:12:51 ang: ok rebooted Jan 11 05:12:52 same error Jan 11 05:12:57 i dont even see ssh-askpass listed in package contents of openssh Jan 11 05:13:01 which error? Jan 11 05:13:11 except the dmesg line doesnt have "please use pci=biosirq" Jan 11 05:13:21 PCI: No IRQ known for interupt pin A of device 01:0b.0. Please try using pci=biosirq Jan 11 05:13:22 that one Jan 11 05:13:25 without the please try bit Jan 11 05:13:51 --- nixor removes ban on slowdude!~slowdude@*.elp.rr.com Jan 11 05:14:51 anyone know how to actually set dcc send ports in irssi. the dcc_port option doesnt seem to work. Jan 11 05:14:52 Outpour: is this a laptop? Jan 11 05:15:01 no Jan 11 05:16:12 --> ashes (~ashes@modemcable241.28-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:16:23 crap my man is broken too Jan 11 05:16:27 --> lonewolf_v6 (~lonewolf@3ffe:bc0:72f:2:5c5d:7846:174b:c1f9) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:16:33 Outpour: well, i'm out of ideas Jan 11 05:16:36 udev problems? Jan 11 05:16:44 sadsfae: Compromised? Jan 11 05:16:50 Outpour: did google turn up anything? Jan 11 05:16:54 <-- we2by has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 05:17:12 --> we2by (~we2by@dc5146d009.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:18:38 um Jan 11 05:18:42 Hello, is there some sort of Plesk but for slackware? Jan 11 05:18:51 it's a bios problem Jan 11 05:19:09 <-- ashes (~ashes@modemcable241.28-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has left ##slackware Jan 11 05:19:12 W|GG-Laptop: Can you recommend any patches for 2.6.7, or give a few ideas where to look? Jan 11 05:19:14 <-- Lord_Devi has quit ("BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") Jan 11 05:19:17 gonna try and set "Plug & Play OS" under bios to "NO" Jan 11 05:19:44 slk: Try google, I doubt the answers we can give have changed in the last half hour. Jan 11 05:19:51 ok i found it Jan 11 05:19:55 its a type in udev Jan 11 05:19:59 typo Jan 11 05:20:15 <-- sadsfae has quit ("He who makes a beast of himself, gets rid of the pain of being a man.") Jan 11 05:21:11 <-- HeatHawk has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 05:22:24 --> sami_ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:22:28 aha Jan 11 05:22:29 yes! Jan 11 05:22:30 w00t Jan 11 05:22:34 that was it Jan 11 05:22:52 thank you nixor slowdude spent a good hour in another channel apoligizing Jan 11 05:23:03 had to change the "OS instsalled" from Win98/NT to "Other" Jan 11 05:23:08 in the bios Jan 11 05:23:30 Outpour - good deal so it works now ? Jan 11 05:23:51 yuppers Jan 11 05:23:52 sweet Jan 11 05:23:59 damn i feel all giddy now Jan 11 05:24:18 Outpour - write a small help file on a website somewhere with your motherboard type for the next poor soul Jan 11 05:24:20 * FriedBob wonders if he should tell MAN_Hater that's nixor's a bot. ;P Jan 11 05:25:20 MAN_Hater:ah i will :D Jan 11 05:25:42 actually it's on google Jan 11 05:25:45 * MAN_Hater MAN_Haterdoen't believe nixor is a bot untill I can retrieve keyword searches of ##slackware logs from nixor Jan 11 05:25:48 but i'll add it to my site all the same Jan 11 05:25:50 --> Lord_Devi (~ld@S01060010b50e8c16.ss.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:26:08 --> broesel (~broesel@p508B2826.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:26:22 --> jmedina (~jmedina@209.205.213.234) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:27:09 are there any glaring exploits for 2.4.26? Jan 11 05:27:20 i.e. should i upgrade my kernel to 2.6.10 ? Jan 11 05:27:20 Does anyone have any idea what or why i have two raw sockets open on ports 6 and 17? listed under netstat -l as tcp and udp. (not protocol, that's like the service name oddly enough) Jan 11 05:27:23 --> _kop (~trillian@64-40-57-117.nocharge.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:27:29 evening. Jan 11 05:27:32 i plan on this box being my firewall, NAT server Jan 11 05:27:37 * Legendre waves to MAN_Hater Jan 11 05:27:40 Legendre: Heya Jan 11 05:27:42 according to etc/servers that's like quote of the day and something else I definatly don't have installed.. Jan 11 05:27:47 hi FriedBob Jan 11 05:27:52 hey there Legendre Jan 11 05:28:03 but even then... they would be tcp or udp ports. not listed as "raw".. Jan 11 05:28:14 Legendre: What up? Jan 11 05:28:27 --> chodapp (~hodapp@blackbird-day-216-68-113-120.fuse.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:28:32 FriedBob - http://nerp.net/~legendre/emuslack Jan 11 05:28:34 <-- slicslak has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 05:28:34 chodapp: Oi oi Jan 11 05:28:55 meh Jan 11 05:29:15 <-- rignes has quit ("leaving") Jan 11 05:29:17 Legendre: Looks fun. I'm working on getting SELinux going on slack Jan 11 05:29:26 chodapp: That good of a day, eh? Jan 11 05:29:28 SE? Jan 11 05:29:52 Just got back from someone's house, doing physics problems for 6 hours. Jan 11 05:30:04 <-- Gabrielsan has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 05:30:13 My English teacher is a stupid bitch, in other news. Jan 11 05:31:32 --> nixn00b (TurboMOG@69-168-25-227.chvlva.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:32:04 so is my roommate. Jan 11 05:32:14 <-- evets has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 05:32:22 so ah um should i update my kernel? Jan 11 05:34:06 I am having a problem getting php 4.3.7 to access Mysql 4.1.8 Jan 11 05:34:17 (running slack10) Jan 11 05:34:18 Legendre: actually I have to ask that too, what is this SE linux of which FriedBob speaks. Jan 11 05:34:21 --> lab_rat (~Lab_Rat@205-178-43-169.s423.tnt1.sfrn.ca.dialup.rcn.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:34:28 sup i got lil problem with the module i compiled Jan 11 05:34:42 <-- MAN_Hater has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 05:34:51 it won't load when i add it to rc.modules , and move it to /lib/modules//misc Jan 11 05:34:52 http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/ Jan 11 05:34:57 *that* one Jan 11 05:35:18 ooooh, nsa linux. Jan 11 05:35:24 --> CajunKnight (~usa@68.206.179.75) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:35:27 Except Jan 11 05:35:35 it's probably nsghey Jan 11 05:35:36 the NSA doesn't maintain the patches now, Fedora does. Jan 11 05:35:41 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:35:48 http://selinux.sourceforge.net/ Jan 11 05:36:19 Someone did a set of packages for Slackware, but I'd like to make my own, or at least have the option, to make it eaiser when it comes time to update. Jan 11 05:36:22 it won't load when i add it to rc.modules , and move it to /lib/modules//misc Jan 11 05:36:31 And I'm working with someone towards that effect right now. Jan 11 05:36:48 I hate installing bins if I can help it. Jan 11 05:37:04 slackem - run depmod yet? Jan 11 05:37:13 --> opencode (~ksdjfhjkh@80-15.dedicado.com.uy) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:37:14 ahh no Jan 11 05:37:23 depmod -aA Jan 11 05:37:25 --> slicslak (~slicslak@S01060050bf73737f.ed.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:42:22 <-- lab_rat (~Lab_Rat@205-178-43-169.s423.tnt1.sfrn.ca.dialup.rcn.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 11 05:42:29 <-- ejlozon has quit ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") Jan 11 05:42:47 --> TheBeast (~betzivu@dsl-66-225-165-10.vianet.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:43:03 <-- adjacent has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 05:43:06 somebody was talking about a kernel exploit today Jan 11 05:43:30 where can I get the patch ? Jan 11 05:43:31 Legendre did depmod -aA and it still won't load the module Jan 11 05:43:39 I got my wireless pc card going, and it's getting a signal...but I can't even ping 192.168.0.1..it says connect: network is unreachable. Any idea what the problem could be? Jan 11 05:43:45 but i not doing modprobe but insmod Jan 11 05:43:49 slackem - hm.. Jan 11 05:43:57 --> homer2 (~homer@69.153.212.166) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:44:03 err.. are you giving full path to insmod? Jan 11 05:44:08 needs it. Jan 11 05:44:14 how do i run the setup scripts from teh CD Jan 11 05:44:19 appended the /sbin/insmod hptr100.ko to rc.modules Jan 11 05:44:36 err.. Jan 11 05:44:44 try giving the full path to the module. Jan 11 05:44:58 I don't think insmod walks the path like modprobe does. Jan 11 05:45:41 Legendre: I've never used full path w/ insmod. Jan 11 05:45:41 or just use modprobe, if the module is properly registered (via depmod) Jan 11 05:45:56 might be.. it's late ;) Jan 11 05:46:00 <-- PiterPunk has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 11 05:46:07 *shrug* they were also registered. Jan 11 05:46:16 whenever I try to run my setup scripts from the pkgtool tool, it won't work Jan 11 05:46:27 homer2: www.slackware.com <--- there is a good tutorial about installing slackware Jan 11 05:46:27 as in the pkgtool thing quits Jan 11 05:46:33 Legendre the modprobe doesnt work , the install.txt also told to use insmod Jan 11 05:46:37 TheBeast im not fucking retarded Jan 11 05:46:51 <-- omnistegan (~omnistega@S0106000ae6a090a7.cg.shawcable.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 11 05:46:59 i made a boo boo, and now pkgtool wont run the setup scripts Jan 11 05:47:00 you got me fooled Jan 11 05:47:03 slackem - if you insmod it manually, with full path.. does it work? Jan 11 05:47:38 ananke: In a pleasant mood as always, I see. Jan 11 05:47:46 as always Jan 11 05:47:56 homer2: usually, to start the setup program from the c, you just have to tipe "setup" at the command prompt Jan 11 05:48:14 TheBeast are you assuming i'm installing slackware...? Jan 11 05:48:22 --> PiterPunk (~punk@200.234.29.198) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:48:40 ananke: do you know something about tht kernel exploit ? I want to patch mine and recompile, but I have no idea where to get the patch Jan 11 05:48:56 www.kernel.org TheBeast Jan 11 05:49:01 Uhm.... hello everyone Jan 11 05:49:05 ananke: If I can /find/ the patches in the CVS, there's a guy who will be setting up a clean repository of the generic patches. Will make things a lot easier for me and any other slackers, even though he's focsuing on debian/ubuntu Jan 11 05:49:05 homer2: there is no such patch there Jan 11 05:49:14 TheBeast : i've tested quite a few of my boxes, that exploit didn't work on them. so i'm waiting for the new kernel to come out Jan 11 05:49:16 How can i replace all spaces in a file with cardinals? (#) Jan 11 05:49:17 homer2: nevermind, do whatever you want Jan 11 05:49:46 Daedric: Perhap sed's s// command? Or your fav editor's search and replace? Jan 11 05:49:47 any change in the -crrent changelog ? Jan 11 05:49:48 I still need help with pkgtool Jan 11 05:49:55 I'm too lazy to check :P Jan 11 05:50:07 homer2: then man pkgtool Jan 11 05:50:21 TheBeast... i did. the tool is not working Jan 11 05:50:40 why ? do you get any kind of error ? Jan 11 05:50:44 I get in and try to run the mouse configuration scripts, and the tool quits. Jan 11 05:50:48 no error Jan 11 05:50:50 ;/ Jan 11 05:50:56 FriedBob must be auto.. script wise... i know that theres a sed s// comand... but how do i tell him to replace spaces? and... and.. and i should man... Jan 11 05:51:00 homer2: you mean gpm ? Jan 11 05:51:12 or X11 ? Jan 11 05:51:26 for X11 there is "xorgconfig" Jan 11 05:51:39 I accidentally chose PS2 instead of USB in the mouse config Jan 11 05:51:47 nah it wasnt X.Org configuration Jan 11 05:51:50 ok, then re-run xorgconfig Jan 11 05:52:09 Daedric: Something like cat | sed s/ /#/g > from a shell script, but check docs for exact syntax, I'm going from memory and don't trust it too well. Jan 11 05:52:15 then, I think is xfreeconfig or smthg Jan 11 05:52:48 ananke: when do you think that the new kernel is going to come up ? Jan 11 05:52:57 <-- foo (~foo@foo.user) has left ##slackware Jan 11 05:53:00 Legendre i copied the module to the lib/modules//misc/ ran depmod Jan 11 05:53:06 but after reboot it's not there anymore Jan 11 05:53:10 could use a for loop to specify the list of files, but again, look to docs or someone else for syntax. Jan 11 05:53:28 TheBeast : whenever the developers think it's ready. i wouldn't know Jan 11 05:54:02 <-- CajunKnight (~usa@68.206.179.75) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 11 05:54:04 so, should I patch/recompile ? is there a *big risk* ? Jan 11 05:54:12 <-- Outpour has quit ("reboot") Jan 11 05:54:20 TheBeast : try the exploit. see if it works. Jan 11 05:54:34 --> tvn (~tvn@pcp0010250125pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:54:54 my wireless card is connected, but I can't even ping the router. Any ideas? Jan 11 05:55:08 ShastaMaroon hmm that's pretty damn vague Jan 11 05:55:28 Legendre u there? Jan 11 05:55:43 ananke: where's the exploit ?:P Jan 11 05:55:48 homer2: well I don't know where to start looking for what's wrong with it...what would help? Jan 11 05:55:54 --> problemchild (~asd@66-214-226-15.lb-cres.charterpipeline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:55:59 ShastaMaroon iwconfig Jan 11 05:56:05 ShastaMaroon is it pci card? Jan 11 05:56:11 slackem - pcmcia Jan 11 05:56:17 TheBeast ; check slashdot for example Jan 11 05:56:21 homer2: what from iwconfig? Jan 11 05:56:22 <-- problemchild (~asd@66-214-226-15.lb-cres.charterpipeline.net) has left ##slackware Jan 11 05:56:28 that's what I'm doing right now Jan 11 05:56:30 ShastaMaroon fuck if i know Jan 11 05:56:49 ShastaMaroon check http://www.linux-wlan.org/ and see what chipset is ur card using Jan 11 05:56:49 it's got the access point's mac in iwconfig and everything Jan 11 05:56:53 I dont know why its not working Jan 11 05:57:06 slackem: well I alreay installed the firmware from prism54.org Jan 11 05:57:51 ok Jan 11 05:57:52 err Jan 11 05:57:58 xorgconfig did nothing :/ Jan 11 05:58:01 did u assign the ip adress to the machine? Jan 11 05:58:10 what do u see in iwconfig? Jan 11 05:58:23 and now it works... Jan 11 05:58:38 apparently under linux the card is given a different mac address for some reason? Jan 11 05:59:04 I have Mysql 4.1.8 in /usr/local/mysql, and php4 installed as well Jan 11 05:59:19 however php cannot seem to access my mysql database server Jan 11 05:59:34 <-- ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) has left ##slackware ("Client exiting") Jan 11 05:59:39 I think I need some mysql.so file Jan 11 05:59:40 nixn00b : uhmm, did you compile php with mysql support even? Jan 11 05:59:42 --> sdogi (~java@84-50-17-197-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 05:59:57 php4 (by default) compiles with mysql support Jan 11 06:00:16 and wth did you go for mysql 4.1.8? slackware comes with a fine mysql already, and php with mysql support Jan 11 06:00:17 and to be sure I put the --with-mysql=blaablaa in ./configure Jan 11 06:00:30 check phpinfo(); Jan 11 06:00:31 because I am a linux n00 Jan 11 06:00:32 b Jan 11 06:00:34 <-- homer2 has quit ("BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") Jan 11 06:00:35 hence my name Jan 11 06:00:49 nixn00b : hint #1: if a distro comes with something, use that first. Jan 11 06:00:50 ananke: can't find it Jan 11 06:01:17 oddly enough I don't think php was working Jan 11 06:01:26 in my slack install to begin with Jan 11 06:01:34 actually Jan 11 06:01:41 I see an Include for mod_php4 Jan 11 06:01:44 bloops Jan 11 06:01:44 ;p Jan 11 06:01:47 TheBeast : http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/07/2028203&tid=172&tid=106 Jan 11 06:02:02 I am the prime example of people who should not use linux Jan 11 06:02:34 so phpinfo(); Jan 11 06:02:37 does what its supposed to do Jan 11 06:02:38 you work for microsoft? Jan 11 06:02:42 but shows no entry for MySQL Jan 11 06:02:59 shit I think microsoft programmers have a harder time than linux devs Jan 11 06:03:00 nixn00b : then it means there is no support for mysql Jan 11 06:03:04 cuz windows is such a piece of crap Jan 11 06:03:23 but if I do ./configure --with-mysql=/usr/local/mysql Jan 11 06:03:27 shouldn't it do it? Jan 11 06:03:32 or give some kinda of error as to why it cant Jan 11 06:03:38 <-- Lord_Devi has quit ("Connection reset by pheer") Jan 11 06:03:45 <-- ryen has quit ("What would we find, if we were to look behind the border of the Universe?") Jan 11 06:04:23 do you need ndiswrapper for wpa_supplicant to function? Jan 11 06:04:28 ananke: I won't get rooted anyway Jan 11 06:04:30 night Jan 11 06:04:37 <-- TheBeast has quit ("quit") Jan 11 06:05:57 <-- broesel (~broesel@p508B2826.dip.t-dialin.net) has left ##slackware Jan 11 06:06:14 yeah I should totally not be allowed to use linux Jan 11 06:06:34 nixn00b: Naw, just make sure you know how to read. Jan 11 06:06:50 too hard Jan 11 06:07:09 If you are too lazy to read, then yeah, you shouldn't be using Linux. Jan 11 06:07:24 hehe Jan 11 06:09:48 --> Outpour (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:10:12 For compiling, simply use --with-mysql=[DIR] where [DIR] points to your MySQL installation directory. Jan 11 06:11:30 so essentially I did not realize that php was already setup Jan 11 06:11:33 and owned myself Jan 11 06:11:46 (by demolishing the default mysql install) Jan 11 06:11:56 I tried to reinstall the pkg using pkgtool Jan 11 06:12:03 <-- sdogi_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 06:12:04 but when I try to tun mysqld_safe Jan 11 06:12:06 it bombs Jan 11 06:12:07 --> Lord_Devi (~ld@S01060010b50e8c16.ss.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:12:12 teh pwned!!! --r33tpax0r1337 =) Jan 11 06:12:38 <--- Jan 11 06:13:11 --> thr1ce (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:14:24 <-- thr1ce has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 06:14:32 --> thr1ce (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:14:46 <-- clingen has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 11 06:15:24 <-- thr1ce has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 06:19:27 where do you set the hostname? Jan 11 06:19:50 --> carrett (~chatzilla@adsl-68-127-136-176.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:19:56 Outpour : either netconfig, or /etc/HOSTNAME and /etc/hosts [and by running hostname] Jan 11 06:20:06 hi. anyone here know a way i can copy DIRECTORIES from ext3 partitions in windows? Jan 11 06:20:30 ok this is wierd Jan 11 06:20:36 I do another make of php4 Jan 11 06:20:37 and like Jan 11 06:20:39 nothing happens Jan 11 06:20:45 carrett: on the same box, or a different one? Jan 11 06:20:46 do I need to tell php to make modules for apache? Jan 11 06:20:51 --> thr1ce_ (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:20:51 FriedBob: same box Jan 11 06:20:54 <-- thr1ce_ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 06:21:07 carrett: the win partitions NTFS? Jan 11 06:21:20 FriedBob: yeah. Jan 11 06:21:58 carrett: AFAIK, you are SoL unless you can get another box involved then, or CD/DVD +/- R(W) Jan 11 06:22:27 Unless maybe through something like vmware or some other emulator. Jan 11 06:22:56 I was thinking cygwin Jan 11 06:23:02 but that turned out to be fruitless Jan 11 06:23:10 "from" ext3 partitions while in Windows? IIRC, there are some ext2 drivers for WinNT Jan 11 06:24:52 --> thr1ce (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:25:17 ls Jan 11 06:25:20 oops =\ Jan 11 06:25:27 <-- carrett has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041217]") Jan 11 06:25:49 <-- thr1ce has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 06:25:54 MYSQL_INCLUDE -I/usr/local//include/mysql Jan 11 06:25:56 all thats not good Jan 11 06:26:00 all=aww Jan 11 06:26:05 --> thr1ce (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:26:09 weird Jan 11 06:26:16 <-- chodapp has quit () Jan 11 06:26:21 it knows the right client API version tho Jan 11 06:26:23 4.1.8a Jan 11 06:26:28 so MAYBE I got lucky Jan 11 06:28:42 <-- thr1ce has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 06:28:59 --> thr1ce (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:29:55 <-- tvn has quit ("Bye") Jan 11 06:29:59 anybody know how to unmount a broken mount? i keep getting an io error Jan 11 06:30:09 what is mounted? Jan 11 06:30:19 Packeteer: I think mount has a force option. Jan 11 06:30:24 man, my BitchX text is grey instead of white for some reason Jan 11 06:30:27 i don't know why Jan 11 06:30:29 Packeteer : you can't. Jan 11 06:30:58 ananke: so its reboot or nothing? Jan 11 06:32:29 odd Jan 11 06:32:37 <-- thr1ce has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 06:32:51 --> thr1ce (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:32:51 --> keanne (~riken@mnc01.mei.co.jp) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:32:52 it worked that time (with -v option) Jan 11 06:33:18 oh, well thx all Jan 11 06:35:24 -v doesn't change the way mount works Jan 11 06:35:54 --> identd (mike@pcp03386212pcs.towerd01.fl.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:37:06 we used to call getting chewed out at work "getting verbaled" maybe he verbaled it into working Jan 11 06:37:14 heh Jan 11 06:37:17 16:32 odd Jan 11 06:37:23 ananke: hence that cmment ^^ Jan 11 06:37:28 comment even Jan 11 06:39:47 --> albano (Moris@Toronto-HSE-ppp3657718.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:39:58 Packeteer: Probably some process or such ended, and let it unmount. Jan 11 06:41:10 ananke: If you are interested, by tomorrow there should be a public repository with generic SELinux userland patches available. Jan 11 06:41:27 <-- thr1ce has quit ("leaving") Jan 11 06:43:41 --> AllenOne (~atari@68.188.175.165.bay.mi.chartermi.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:43:47 how goes it Jan 11 06:43:55 FriedBob: yeah i figured as much... been trying all sorts of combo's of umount for 10 mins or so, maybe one got thought :) Jan 11 06:45:31 G'night Jan 11 06:45:51 hey, take a look at http://nerp.net/~legendre/emuslack Jan 11 06:46:01 and tell me if this is something that should exist. Jan 11 06:46:22 I'm working on it as we speak, so if things looks wierd.. well.. Jan 11 06:46:23 <-- phrag (~phrag@phra.gs) has left ##slackware Jan 11 06:46:33 --> phrag (~phrag@phra.gs) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:46:34 Legendre: From the little bit I read earlier, I like the idea. Didn't look too close though Jan 11 06:46:44 But I gtg now. Jan 11 06:46:45 <-- FriedBob has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 11 06:47:07 --> ^slacker^ (~cadavis@ip68-105-229-46.lu.dl.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:47:13 it's funny.. I usually have so much to say, but when it comes to formatting a site and writing copy. I SUCK. Jan 11 06:47:19 --> thr1ce (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:47:22 <-- thr1ce has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 06:47:36 <-- ^slacker^ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 06:48:15 --> thr1ce (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:48:30 <-- thr1ce has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 06:48:37 --> BadM0nkey (BadM0nkey@dialup-4.157.65.189.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:49:01 anyone use kppp to connect to earth link ?? Jan 11 06:49:25 im having problems staying connected, pppd give error 18 Jan 11 06:49:36 so im imagining it is a config issue Jan 11 06:49:48 i can connect using a slax cd Jan 11 06:49:59 but not with my slackware 10 install Jan 11 06:50:21 <-- BadM0nkey has quit () Jan 11 06:51:14 --> NeoSadist (~neosadist@68-118-171-137.cpe.nm.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:52:00 <-- blaylock has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 06:55:16 --> d3ity (1000@207.172.254.149) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:55:16 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@207.172.254.149 Jan 11 06:55:16 <-- nixor has kicked d3ity from ##slackware (banned: d3ity - perm ban - constant trolling) Jan 11 06:55:30 --> althalus (~althalus@c-67-170-176-30.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:57:16 --> clingen (~clingen@pool-141-157-9-192.balt.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 06:57:29 --> Soptecpe (~alex@201.135.120.78) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 07:00:06 <-- opencode has quit () Jan 11 07:02:23 <-- slackem has quit () Jan 11 07:06:19 --> luminaire (nobody@d141-239-221.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 07:08:18 Can anyone think why for some reason my /etc/rc.d/rc.snortd isn't running at startup even though it's +x? Jan 11 07:08:29 runs fine after startup if i run it manually for some reason Jan 11 07:08:35 Lord_Devi : because nothing starts it. Jan 11 07:08:49 just because you put a script there, doesn't mean it will be automagically run Jan 11 07:10:24 --> PrplNrpl (~aerofoam@68-185-0-156.or.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 07:10:42 oh, hrm ok Jan 11 07:18:11 <-- SiegeX has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 07:19:02 <-- PiterPunk has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 07:19:59 <-- Lord_Devi has quit ("BitchX: it does a body good") Jan 11 07:20:15 --> neuronios (~neuronios@200-163-005-147.bsace705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 07:20:44 Hiii............ Jan 11 07:20:49 --> SiegeX (SiegeX@adsl-63-196-7-236.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 07:21:12 <-- Soptecpe has quit ("Abandonando") Jan 11 07:21:16 Hello. Jan 11 07:21:18 guys ... The version 2.9 of the lm_sensors is compatible with the kernel 2.6.10 ???? Jan 11 07:21:28 albano do you know ..??? Jan 11 07:22:45 Looks like I did a booboo and somehow corrupted libtermcap.so.2 and now I cant even log into my box to reinstall the slackpack. I tossed in the slackware CD and booted off of that, but problem is I am running software RAID5 across there scsi drives. My root partition is normally /dev/md/0 and im not sure what I need to do exactly to get that set up in order to mount it. Jan 11 07:23:14 Hi. Jan 11 07:23:52 i cant help ... SiegeX Jan 11 07:24:26 I have a very small, faded-black pixel on my LCD. Jan 11 07:24:32 Is this a dead pixel? Jan 11 07:25:05 Sorry. I am not sure that it is a pixel, but I called it that anyway. Jan 11 07:25:17 Sorryy .. I dont have one LCD .. :P Jan 11 07:25:36 albano : sounds like it Jan 11 07:25:40 Owww god my english is very bad .. :(~ Jan 11 07:25:50 hiauhaha Jan 11 07:26:07 Could it have gotten like this from putting too much fluid on the screen when cleaning? Jan 11 07:26:29 albano : i doubt it Jan 11 07:27:18 I read that the screen has a semi-porous plastic coating and that you need to be careful not to short out some transistors or display elements when cleaning. Jan 11 07:28:20 <-- NeoSadist (~neosadist@68-118-171-137.cpe.nm.charter.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 11 07:29:00 --> _Daedric (~noneof@adslsapo-b5-209-155.telepac.pt) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 07:32:48 <-- neuronios has quit ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") Jan 11 07:32:52 SiegeX: you're running software raid5? that's painful. Jan 11 07:32:56 <-- Lurkan has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 07:33:16 I saved up for a 3ware sata raid controller so I could do raid5. Jan 11 07:33:18 --> Frost^ (~Weiss@IGLD-83-130-241-106.inter.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 07:34:50 <-- nomasteryoda has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 07:35:51 <-- Daedric has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 11 07:37:31 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 07:37:54 --> Outpour (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 07:38:58 --> MAN_Hater (~Too_Rude@adsl-69-151-252-196.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 07:39:53 who is doing slackware for ppc ? Jan 11 07:40:31 not important just curious Jan 11 07:40:37 last i saw not much was being done with it period Jan 11 07:40:49 i.e. slackintosh is not exactly a full port Jan 11 07:40:57 maybe thats changed though Jan 11 07:41:59 ok thank you for that information Jan 11 07:42:14 <-- qmasterrr has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 11 07:42:41 * MAN_Hater runs off to patent the name I just thought of for slack on ppc Jan 11 07:43:11 the current port is called "slackintosh" Jan 11 07:43:18 ok Jan 11 07:43:34 also, whoever does it does frequent this channel Jan 11 07:43:41 i just forget their nick Jan 11 07:44:09 ok maybe they will see it mentioned and get in touch Jan 11 07:44:19 under Jan 11 07:44:21 USE_DHCP Jan 11 07:44:23 thanx for all this good info Jan 11 07:44:32 what is 'on'? Jan 11 07:44:35 <-- Tukon has quit (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Get hot chicks here!") Jan 11 07:44:36 1, yes? Jan 11 07:44:47 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 07:45:17 * OhMyAchinLap asks what the value of 0001 is Jan 11 07:45:27 i.e. 1 is on ;) Jan 11 07:48:37 --> newidiot (~new@210.187.125.251) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 07:50:21 Outpour, If your talking about rc.inet1.conf USE_DHCP="yes" enables dhcp, leave it blank to disable it Jan 11 07:50:45 <-- Nomius has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 07:50:46 How do I fix a small, faded-black dot on my screen? Jan 11 07:51:21 --> jmknsd (~jmknsd@user-12hcdqa.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 07:51:33 albano, Not much you can do but hold you head to try to keep it in your blind spot Jan 11 07:51:50 It is in the middle. Jan 11 07:52:44 Use a black background Jan 11 07:53:12 * MAN_Hater wants to make a joke about if you remove it how else will the aliens read your mind ? Jan 11 07:54:05 * MAN_Hater takes a pencil easer to the "seti dot" Jan 11 07:54:22 That's not a dead pixel, that's a RIAA tracking device Jan 11 07:54:56 --> djarin (~djarin@pD9535017.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 07:55:39 <-- djarin has quit ("kick") Jan 11 07:55:56 griz @ eelriverlt Jan 11 07:56:22 I got one, but it's red, and I've got absoulutly nothing that goes with red Jan 11 07:56:42 I think it was not here until I started cleaning my screen with excessive fluid Jan 11 07:57:03 --> Lord_Devi (~ld@S01060010b50e8c16.ss.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 07:57:04 --> icestorm (~menot@VA1-1D-u-0647.mc.onolab.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 07:57:27 <-- icestorm (~menot@VA1-1D-u-0647.mc.onolab.com) has left ##slackware Jan 11 07:57:29 --> icestorm (~menot@VA1-1D-u-0647.mc.onolab.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 07:57:32 albano, Sometimes they'll work themselves out if caused by overuse of elbow grease Jan 11 07:57:51 <-- icestorm (~menot@VA1-1D-u-0647.mc.onolab.com) has left ##slackware Jan 11 07:57:58 --> icestorm (~menot@VA1-1D-u-0647.mc.onolab.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 07:58:13 albano, But now you know what not to do Jan 11 07:58:15 You can make a dead pixel by pushing too hard? Jan 11 07:58:51 * MAN_Hater hands eelriverlt that "remove the reddot eyes on digital photos software Jan 11 07:59:09 I read that massaging a dead pixel might fix it, but it did nothing. But I think that some people were "fixing" dirt spots. Jan 11 07:59:24 albano - so are you telling us that you are high on fumes and see a dot ? (grin Jan 11 07:59:40 albano, Talk to it too, sometimes that helps Jan 11 07:59:41 The hardest I pushed on the screen was in massaging this pixel. The screen went cloudy momentary for a few times. Jan 11 07:59:52 (oh wait disregard my earlier comment - the last time I mentioned altered states - someone got kicked Jan 11 08:00:22 How long does it take for a pixel to come back if it will? Jan 11 08:00:49 * MAN_Hater type pixel half life " into google Jan 11 08:02:05 I just watched "Shawn of the dead" They seem to come back pretty quick, about 30 secs. or so. But the pixel may never be the same. Jan 11 08:02:51 uuh Jan 11 08:02:53 <-- newidiot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 08:02:57 * MAN_Hater google answered :http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=5&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=my.INCO.&OS=ICN/my Jan 11 08:02:59 I need sleepy pills Jan 11 08:03:06 so I can fall asleep on evenings Jan 11 08:03:13 --> BadM0nkey (~null@dialup-4.157.71.104.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 08:03:41 tewmten: drink wine Jan 11 08:04:04 albano, If you read about massaging dead pixels, you also propbably also reaaaad that they might or might not come back. And that dead pixels are one of the drawbacks to owning a LCD screen as opposed to a CRT. Jan 11 08:04:07 I meant to say warm milk Jan 11 08:04:12 --> carlosm (~carlosm@201.130.179.58) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 08:04:19 I don't wanna drink myself to sleep, what a waste of alcohol.. Jan 11 08:04:23 also, I don't drink wine Jan 11 08:04:31 and warm milk makes me puke Jan 11 08:04:34 I need pills man Jan 11 08:04:40 drugs 'n stuff.. Jan 11 08:04:44 melatonin Jan 11 08:04:47 you need a gal Jan 11 08:04:50 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 08:04:55 is it there any way to know remotelly if a client got the IP from a dhcp or if it is static? Jan 11 08:04:58 thorizine heh Jan 11 08:05:38 pictures tewmten tired from a long day of honeydews Jan 11 08:05:46 hehe Jan 11 08:06:07 doesn't matter what I do during day, I still can't go to sleep during the night Jan 11 08:06:11 --> Outpour (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 08:06:32 monitor light keeps the brain awake Jan 11 08:07:11 light in eye makes brain believe it's still daylight (I love to say in alaska here) Jan 11 08:07:35 but I don't sit infront of the computer while I'm trying to sleep.. Jan 11 08:08:05 no just 10 minutes before ? Jan 11 08:08:35 * MAN_Hater closes the window that had "ask dr. science.com Jan 11 08:09:10 no Jan 11 08:09:16 like, I dunno, an hour? Jan 11 08:09:38 yeppers sleep is a hard thing Jan 11 08:10:04 I'm at about 4 hours a night myself Jan 11 08:10:25 try cacium Jan 11 08:10:30 calcium Jan 11 08:10:46 <-- carlosm (~carlosm@201.130.179.58) has left ##slackware Jan 11 08:11:33 Hi. I got bastard pixel. Jan 11 08:11:43 but then sometimes I make up for it by sleeping 4 more hours during the day Jan 11 08:11:43 Is faded-black and in the middle of my screen. Jan 11 08:11:49 hm Jan 11 08:12:08 i have a blue one Jan 11 08:12:25 has a line of dashed running vertically Jan 11 08:12:32 albano, Didn't we just go through this Jan 11 08:12:36 I need a prescription for melatonin.. so that's a dead end.. Jan 11 08:12:39 dashes Jan 11 08:12:49 melatonin works for me Jan 11 08:12:59 But I have a faded-black dot in the middle of my screen. Jan 11 08:13:06 I think it might be red?? Jan 11 08:13:13 BadM0nkey, I would have thought you had a red.. never mind Jan 11 08:13:20 I have no magnifying glass. Jan 11 08:13:33 its blue on this lcd burnt pixel Jan 11 08:13:34 I would prefer to try something I don't need a prescription for first.. before I go to a doctor and try to get a prescription Jan 11 08:13:50 benadril Jan 11 08:14:00 hahah yes that would work Jan 11 08:14:04 tewmten, melatonin is a natural hormone. Jan 11 08:14:14 albano: I still need a prescription for it Jan 11 08:14:15 it is available over the counter or you can stimulate your own. Jan 11 08:14:22 why? Jan 11 08:14:51 b/c it's a hormone, and you need prescriptions and shit for it.. Jan 11 08:15:02 http://www.melatonin.com/ Jan 11 08:15:21 in the wintertime, people tend to be high in melatonin. Jan 11 08:15:27 http://www.melatonin.com/melatonin-faq.htm#SEX Jan 11 08:15:32 it will just get stopped in customs if I order it from the web.. Jan 11 08:15:38 well I'm gone now, school shit Jan 11 08:15:38 lol. Jan 11 08:15:44 you are living in communism. Jan 11 08:15:48 lol. funny. Jan 11 08:15:56 we call it europe over here Jan 11 08:15:57 ok have fun school shit Jan 11 08:16:16 why u want to live in communism? hey, government just doing what is best for YOU. Jan 11 08:16:20 lol. dummy. Jan 11 08:17:09 becarefull te needs sleep and might snap at you Jan 11 08:18:15 he needs more light, man_hater. he may be low on vitamin d, but the most important thing is proper light during the day. there is no substitute for daylight. Jan 11 08:18:55 ahh that is right I forget about upnorth Jan 11 08:19:50 Teratogen: geeze I just looked up your nick's meaning *grin Jan 11 08:19:55 if you are tired and you walk under the bright sun, you feel awake. Jan 11 08:20:05 albano, That was pretty uncalled for, did you choose to live in Canada, or is it where you were born, if you choose to live there why? Because of the excellent goverment run (socilist maybe) medicine? Or the high taxes on "sinful" products from a goverment that's just looking out for you? Jan 11 08:20:25 albano - so if tewmten walks under the moon will feel tired ? grin ? Jan 11 08:20:33 what is the difference between MASQ and SNAT? Jan 11 08:21:02 MASQ has move overhead but is usefull with dynamic IP's Jan 11 08:21:03 man_hater, he will feel tired some after nightfall, sir.. if he has been about in the daylight. Jan 11 08:21:07 s/move/more Jan 11 08:21:33 SiegeX - so if my ISP has me connecting with DHCP i should use MASQ? Jan 11 08:21:46 i would Jan 11 08:21:55 albano - I was just funning - yes I know what you mean - vitamin d and brains clock would help ... Jan 11 08:22:03 eer, i am in canada because canada is very accepting of immigration. Jan 11 08:22:06 * MAN_Hater you tell 'me eelriverlt Jan 11 08:23:24 eh I can'type anymore I need to shut up Jan 11 08:23:42 * MAN_Hater you tell 'em eelriverlt is how that should have read Jan 11 08:23:47 man_hater, his serotonin is likely existing as melatonin. meanwhile his dopamine is in balance with the low serotonin. Jan 11 08:24:17 albano - so he needs a gal ? Jan 11 08:24:23 * MAN_Hater grinz Jan 11 08:24:50 albano - you sound like you know your stuff Jan 11 08:24:54 he needs to get off this computer and start living as nature intended. Jan 11 08:25:17 albano - (repeats)so he needs a gal ? Jan 11 08:25:24 :) Jan 11 08:25:27 * MAN_Hater runz away Jan 11 08:25:55 people who are in love often have trouble sleeping for a whole new reason. Jan 11 08:26:15 nature would like for lovers to be making love all night. a consummation there and then. Jan 11 08:26:28 --> Demonbane (~demonbane@ppp112-183.static.internode.on.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 08:26:54 I don't usually genderize .. I have no idea if tewmten is male or female - I was only picturing a long list of things to do and rushing around all day Jan 11 08:27:21 some are more susceptible to the chemical onslaught of love than others of course. we all have unique predispositions and resulting tolerances. Jan 11 08:27:50 http://www.celestialseasonings.com/products/herb/st.php Jan 11 08:28:47 --> _SiegeX (1000@adsl-63-196-7-236.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 08:29:15 i would like for peopl to have access to things without having to see a doctor as qualified by a governing body. each individual should have the right to explore their body and health on their own if they so desire. Jan 11 08:29:15 albano can I interupt that to mean different shopping list ? Jan 11 08:30:02 different shopping list? Jan 11 08:30:30 oh yes - some like one thing some like another Jan 11 08:30:49 oh. Jan 11 08:30:58 sure. Jan 11 08:31:11 <-- BadM0nkey has quit ("BitchX: not from concentrate") Jan 11 08:32:30 the sir in question is recognized as being too incompetent for his own good, eel. Jan 11 08:32:36 i am to respect that? Jan 11 08:32:58 i was laughing, but can you blame me? Jan 11 08:33:08 tewmten: my friend drinks that sleepytime tea that I posted - she swear by it Jan 11 08:34:07 * MAN_Hater oh and for the record - she drinks it ..she doesn't smoke it Jan 11 08:34:45 What sir? tewten is a teenager going to school in Sweden in the winter, everyones sleepy, the only hours of daylight this time of year is during school hours. Jan 11 08:34:53 is there a way to listen to yahoo launchcast in linux ? Jan 11 08:35:08 <-- defile has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 08:35:14 xmms might do it Jan 11 08:35:24 yes but how to launch t ? Jan 11 08:35:25 eel, sounds like a tool to me. Jan 11 08:35:31 <-- SiegeX has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 11 08:35:31 you are right to correct me. Jan 11 08:36:02 --> Dario (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 08:36:05 hey, I can't sleep. :| Jan 11 08:36:19 * MAN_Hater grinz Jan 11 08:36:42 MAN_Hater, I like sleepytime tea, since I stopped the ETOH it helps me sleep all the time Jan 11 08:36:55 :| Jan 11 08:36:57 ahh see another Jan 11 08:37:03 I should just drink a bottle of wine. :p Jan 11 08:37:35 that have small bottles you know Jan 11 08:38:19 I guess i'm thinking a bottle will help me pass out, not "sleep". Jan 11 08:38:22 MAN_Hater, I've never used yahoo launchcast, do you have to sign up or anything? Jan 11 08:38:37 probally Jan 11 08:39:10 you cannot sleep because you did not live. Jan 11 08:39:24 sleep, like death, is a response to life. Jan 11 08:40:02 we had a tool like yourself with the same problem. Jan 11 08:40:32 just before you. Jan 11 08:41:15 albano, wtf is with the tool crap? You realize it's sometimes considered an insult, don't you? Jan 11 08:41:37 it is not an insult per se, eel. Jan 11 08:42:03 he is a tool to something - or he would be living the life he has been granted. Jan 11 08:42:17 and he would be sleeping as has been intended. Jan 11 08:42:21 hey, does anyone know where i could find docs on how to set up a progress bar for a silent bootsplash? Jan 11 08:42:26 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 08:42:28 i can't find anything on that subject. Jan 11 08:42:52 dario yes google grub Jan 11 08:43:05 no Jan 11 08:43:14 no ? ok Jan 11 08:43:51 i have the bootsplash installed, the progress bar just doesn't move. I have to set up a script to count the # of kernel processes on boot and then manually make the bar progress. Jan 11 08:44:03 dario : http://pollycoke.org/linux-help/articoli/2004/11/slackware-bootsplash-howto.html Jan 11 08:44:04 and i use lilo. Jan 11 08:44:06 <-- althalus has quit () Jan 11 08:44:58 aha Jan 11 08:45:07 is that better ? Jan 11 08:45:16 si Jan 11 08:45:25 --> SiegeX (1000@adsl-63-196-7-236.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 08:45:40 ducagen ? Jan 11 08:45:55 no. Jan 11 08:46:08 --> Outpour (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 08:46:09 I forgot how to say you are welcome Jan 11 08:46:09 I kinda understand it. I speak spanish. Jan 11 08:46:26 beats me, but gracias. :p Jan 11 08:46:28 hut translate - wait i posted the untranslates url Jan 11 08:46:51 de nada Jan 11 08:47:06 http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://pollycoke.org/linux-help/articoli/2004/11/slackware-bootsplash-howto.html&pr Jan 11 08:47:14 thanx skubee Jan 11 08:47:37 np Jan 11 08:47:42 MAN_Hater, I was able to get as far as the "signup now" screen by changing konqueror to identify as IE for XP, but I'm not willing to sign up yo go any further Jan 11 08:48:00 <-- michaelks has quit () Jan 11 08:48:07 ahh ok thats good info - so maybe it does like IE (lol Jan 11 08:48:20 <-- SiegeX has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 08:48:25 --> bei (~brian@68-67-23-23.losaca.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 08:49:16 eelriverlt: I was googling for linux and launchcast and all I found was "launchcast plugin for blogs (eyeroll) Jan 11 08:50:18 So MAN_Hater, when are you coming out to SF? I've got a feeling you'd like it here. (This is asked with all the respect I can show on irc) Jan 11 08:50:41 <-- xemon has quit (No route to host) Jan 11 08:51:28 oh isn't there a linux related thing going on in sf? Jan 11 08:51:45 * MAN_Hater found the word I was looking for maybe as "Bitte" Jan 11 08:52:02 * MAN_Hater found the word I was looking and Danke Jan 11 08:52:32 MAN_Hater, This week it's Macworld Jan 11 08:52:40 MAN_Hater, i don't understand that document. You know how translators are. lol Jan 11 08:53:03 i think i found a nother howto Jan 11 08:53:11 eelriverlt: yes that sounds like the one (LOL Jan 11 08:53:16 There's a Linux thing in San Diego in Feb. I'm thinking of going too Jan 11 08:53:55 whuts that one (googles tha date Jan 11 08:54:12 MAN_Hater, I still might drag myself down there, I worked at Macworld in '93, what a zoo. Jan 11 08:54:29 only doom i can get working on my laptop is csdoom, sucky ;( Jan 11 08:54:32 here dario if you can't find bablefish - translate your own (grin http://www.dict.cc Jan 11 08:55:24 MAN_Hater, http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS6876923830.html Jan 11 08:55:38 I can only imagine how bad macworld would be this year with recent advertisements Jan 11 08:56:32 gr where is the web dir for default apache install? Jan 11 08:56:58 "the creator of lotus 123 " (why do I feel old all of a sudden ? Jan 11 08:56:59 --> phiend (~phiend@64.86.231.103) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 08:57:20 MAN_Hater, If I can get in free, I'll go. I have to go downtown tommorrow anyway, might as well check it out. Its not like I would be wasting money on plane tickets and a room or anythin. Jan 11 08:57:35 Outpour, /var/www Jan 11 08:58:02 ssup yall Jan 11 08:58:28 MAN_Hater, Shouldn't Lotus be up to 91-92-93 by now? Jan 11 08:58:46 heheh Jan 11 08:59:01 eelriverlt: I like this mention "What Politics Can Learn from Technology" Jan 11 08:59:14 He's also a well known blogger Jan 11 08:59:40 lol "Sneaking Linux-Powered Products into Schools... Through the Back Door" Jan 11 09:00:27 --> lab_rat (~Lab_Rat@205-178-43-169.s423.tnt1.sfrn.ca.dialup.rcn.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 09:00:32 <-- keanne has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 09:00:49 From now on, all public schools will be equiped with Knoppix detectors Jan 11 09:01:21 yes I saw that (I am still pituring a HAL like machine with Arnold's voice saying "you countrys will get along with other countrys like we do in Technoworld !" Jan 11 09:01:25 --> SiegeX (1000@adsl-67-122-204-69.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 09:01:45 hehe knoppix detectors (hey might happen Jan 11 09:01:54 barcoded software Jan 11 09:02:06 ssshh don't give them ideas Jan 11 09:03:11 I did go to Linuxworld here last spring, it was cool. I actually talked to Pat at the linuxquestions booth Jan 11 09:03:48 thats sounds like an adventure Jan 11 09:03:57 <-- _SiegeX has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 09:04:02 He's a nice kid Jan 11 09:04:04 thats reminds me - are there slackware users groups ? Jan 11 09:04:33 I don't know of any face to face ones Jan 11 09:04:36 He needs your help Jan 11 09:05:13 (I say that because of what I read Jan 11 09:05:28 He's got my card Jan 11 09:06:16 <-- Dario has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 09:06:27 MAN_Hater, Have you benn working lately? Jan 11 09:06:41 http://www.dict.cc/?s=you&o=d Jan 11 09:07:58 brb Jan 11 09:08:11 --> Dario (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 09:08:50 MAN_Hater, ok.. it's almost working. one question, in rc.M and rc.S , i put the "progressbar xx" in diff locations of the script? Jan 11 09:09:17 cos it just loaded 100% right off the bat. Jan 11 09:09:51 --- nixor removes ban on *!*@207.172.254.149 Jan 11 09:11:20 --> rkroetch (1000@67.158.24.180) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 09:11:32 <-- Dario has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 09:11:43 I have a good idea and I ponder if it has been done... Jan 11 09:12:24 <-- Pechorin has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 09:12:30 --> mmu_man (revol@ALyon-112-1-18-29.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 09:12:32 Have a higher-level branch of the file-system management put Unique IDs on each folder (maybe file), have these unique IDs in a table that's easy to search (held alphabetically most likely) Jan 11 09:13:05 Have calls call the UID, keep the same filetree idea, but that UID that's called then looks through the table, finds where the file/folder is located, and uses that to get it... Jan 11 09:13:26 Would let folders be moved anywhere for programs that make use of UID calls Jan 11 09:14:38 To me it makes sense at least Jan 11 09:16:44 <-- MAN_Hater has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 11 09:16:48 *cries* Jan 11 09:16:49 Soooo quiet Jan 11 09:17:32 --> Dario (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 09:17:33 alo? Jan 11 09:18:56 i think rc.bootsplash is the script that keeps track of the progress i'm at Jan 11 09:19:29 so adding "progressbar 10" "progressbar 35" in diff pts of rc.S (manually), defeats the purpose... or am I wrong? Jan 11 09:21:21 Dario, check this out, it looks like you need to add it in sequence before every process thats started http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=53686 Jan 11 09:22:53 eelriverlt, so i guess I do, indeed, do it manually. Jan 11 09:23:17 <-- albano has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 09:23:35 Dario, Looks like it, I've never done it so I don't know for sure Jan 11 09:23:50 right now it jumps from 0-85. :p Jan 11 09:25:55 I don't boot my workstation enough to go through the trouble, and when I boot my laptop I usually go take a dump Jan 11 09:26:46 eelriverlt, solid state memory... Jan 11 09:26:58 eelriverlt, It makes people happy Jan 11 09:27:17 eelriverlt, i just can't sleepr ight now so i'm keeping busy instead of lying in bed aimlessly. Jan 11 09:27:59 Dario, add a line to reboot your machine in rc.local. Then, just sit there and watch it boot over and over. Jan 11 09:28:12 :o Jan 11 09:28:14 sweet. Jan 11 09:28:14 I'm enjoying being warm and dry during a storm I used to have to go out and work all night in. Jan 11 09:28:15 lol Jan 11 09:28:26 My feet are cold Jan 11 09:30:55 And the conversation dies... Jan 11 09:31:13 --> BadM0nkey (~null@dialup-4.157.65.12.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 09:31:39 --> Pechorin (~cabrilo@ppp-66-139-121-23.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 09:32:42 someone should graph conversation activity Jan 11 09:32:57 that would make for a cool and useless research project. Jan 11 09:33:04 brb, must restart. Jan 11 09:33:13 <-- Dario has quit ("oh sh!t.") Jan 11 09:33:13 Dario, I'm sure you could just write a shell script for the logs Jan 11 09:35:33 http://wigglit.ath.cx/slackware_stats/ Jan 11 09:36:01 It's being done as we speak Jan 11 09:36:06 eelriverlt, you are just a cache of websites aren't you... Jan 11 09:36:14 eelriverlt, You may in fact be a bot! Jan 11 09:36:39 No, I'm not a bot. Just too much time on my hands Jan 11 09:37:54 <-- rh0` has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 09:37:57 <-- hard__ware has quit () Jan 11 09:38:17 --> hard__ware (Hard_warE@220-244-244-143-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 09:42:02 <-- Buggaboo has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 09:45:01 "Sandman1, Do you have a mac?" -- eelrivert Jan 11 09:45:34 --> Zargun (~skempers@pD95216B8.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 09:45:36 --> skempers__ (~skempers@pD95216B8.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 09:46:46 <-- s0ulslack has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 09:46:54 --> s0ulslack (soul@usr-if-63.rmci.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 09:47:05 I don't know how the quotes are picked, but sometimes they're a crackup Jan 11 09:47:23 Probably random line check Jan 11 09:47:51 --> vassie (~a@cpc4-hem14-5-0-cust76.lutn.cable.ntl.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 09:48:54 <-- vassie has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 09:53:40 --> okmeufilho (cxvvxcvdsf@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 09:55:32 <-- jmedina has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 09:56:46 <-- Zargun (~skempers@pD95216B8.dip.t-dialin.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 11 10:02:53 <-- BadM0nkey has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 10:05:04 <-- eelriverlt has quit () Jan 11 10:09:14 --> Drago5 (drago5@DSL212-235-20-28.bb.netvision.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 10:09:26 <-- Drago5 (drago5@DSL212-235-20-28.bb.netvision.net.il) has left ##slackware ("Client exiting") Jan 11 10:11:58 <-- rkroetch has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 10:13:40 --> teleyag (~teleyag@pcp08125753pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 10:14:44 <-- sami_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 10:15:59 <-- JackaLX has quit ("BitchX: the fresh-maker!") Jan 11 10:18:00 --> toshin (~toshin@nat.w-s.pl) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 10:18:26 --> SoulSurvivor (~soul@S01060012171a777b.wp.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 10:18:38 hello everyone Jan 11 10:18:51 can anyone tell me what i have to do to get my wireless card up? 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If a dead pixel looks like a tiny piece of dirt on the screen, then what is the big deal? I see spots on my sceen from dust or whatnot that are as noticeable as the dead pixel. Jan 11 10:51:09 --> epic (~epic@220.80-202-211.nextgentel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 10:51:30 <-- teleyag has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 10:55:08 does lg make crap? Jan 11 10:55:15 huh? Jan 11 10:55:17 lg electronics. Jan 11 10:55:24 not sure Jan 11 10:55:29 i remember lucky and goldstar. Jan 11 10:55:43 utter shit, of course. Jan 11 10:56:25 <-- okmeufilho has quit ("Vision[0.9.7-SF-010705]: i've been blurred!") Jan 11 10:56:45 usage Jan 11 10:59:56 --> christo (~chris@office.enovi.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 11:00:10 is there any way to demonise a bash script like you can in perl? Jan 11 11:05:56 What do you mean by demonize? Jan 11 11:06:05 You can nohup it. Jan 11 11:06:15 it involves the sacrifice of a nubile virgin female. Jan 11 11:06:56 --> beli (slack@p213.54.52.232.tisdip.tiscali.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 11:06:59 moin Jan 11 11:07:30 i have two Jan 11 11:07:58 i'm having problems with checkinstall (slackware-current and checkinstall 1.5.3) Jan 11 11:08:01 line 815: 24298 Segmentation fault $INSTALLWATCH -o /${TMP_DIR}/newfiles.tmp $TMP_SCRIPT 2>&1 Jan 11 11:08:52 Tubez - yeah I'll see if nohup works, but I've found particularly with perl scripts that they still die after a while unless I actually fork the process off and kill the parent (my notion of demonising) Jan 11 11:09:00 seagate Jan 11 11:09:01 not tried this with shell before tho Jan 11 11:09:40 christo, maybe because the child dies itself Jan 11 11:09:41 kdevelop x86_64 starts in 0.35 seconds - ebeh Jan 11 11:09:55 --> Neur0 (~Network@210.50.80.172) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 11:10:07 <-- Analyzer has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 11 11:10:20 beli - but the child lives for ever when I fork() and handle signals myself Jan 11 11:10:24 christo: ah, that. Nohup should sever that link. Also, you can try running it in "screen" Jan 11 11:10:51 christo: worst case, write a general purpose perl deamon that runs a shell script ;) Jan 11 11:11:07 christo, if you are handling signals on your own, right Jan 11 11:11:32 hmm Jan 11 11:16:01 --> crazyhead (~crazyhead@194.146.155.69) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 11:16:15 kjhj Jan 11 11:16:19 <-- beli (slack@p213.54.52.232.tisdip.tiscali.de) has left ##slackware Jan 11 11:16:20 <-- Moras has quit ("Nice Chat With The Undernet Web Client http://www.undernet.org") Jan 11 11:16:44 --> lightx (light@adsl-68-121-247-134.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 11:16:55 <-- crazyhead (~crazyhead@194.146.155.69) has left ##slackware Jan 11 11:17:42 christo: i dont think bash gives you the opportunity to handle signals the way perl does, but i'm no expert. Jan 11 11:18:10 And anyway, is there any special reason for writing the thing in bash to begin with? Jan 11 11:18:16 --> MAN_Hater (~Too_Rude@adsl-69-151-255-218.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 11:18:17 Tubez - I don't think it does. I'm gonna try it for a couple days with screen, nohup and & and see how that goes Jan 11 11:18:22 waves Jan 11 11:18:38 --- jackintheseboxes is now known as UZY Jan 11 11:18:41 is there a ehh kernel to download at slackware.com ? somehwere? Jan 11 11:19:02 Tubez - yeah I need bash because the system connects to a number of servers, uploading data (using dsa key exchanging) over ssh and runs scripts .. bla bla. I just couldn't get it to run smoothly in perl Jan 11 11:19:42 <-- lonewolf_v6 has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 11 11:21:09 christo: not even using system() and `backticks`? Jan 11 11:21:12 --> dwolf (~unknown@dwolf.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 11:21:28 Wow, we do ipv6? Jan 11 11:21:33 Coolness. Jan 11 11:21:59 --> TaQ (~TaQ@200.211.78.140) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 11:24:06 <-- lab_rat has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 11:25:34 Tubez - no. System seems to fork a separate process and the backticks didn't pass anything back. I spent a couple hours frigging with that yesterday and got very annoyed. Jan 11 11:28:58 --> Innoruuk (1000@d14-69-78-200.try.wideopenwest.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 11:32:31 --> vurte (~haluk@pD953A8AB.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 11:32:45 --> willwork4foo (~xxxx@fluorine.eu.sun.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 11:32:59 <-- willwork4foo has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 11:33:35 --> willwork4foo (~xxxx@fluorine.eu.sun.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 11:36:10 <-- christo has quit () Jan 11 11:38:16 <-- MAN_Hater (~Too_Rude@adsl-69-151-255-218.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has left ##slackware ("How do parent penguins bring home food to feed their babies?") Jan 11 11:42:53 <-- Demonbane has quit () Jan 11 11:43:02 greetings slackers. Jan 11 11:43:05 quiet today? Jan 11 11:43:24 yeah Jan 11 11:43:42 good morning Jan 11 11:44:15 nice day Jan 11 11:44:31 <-- fred87 (~fred87@emmott.developer.kde) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 11 11:44:31 --> fred87 (~fred87@emmott.developer.kde) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 11:48:10 <-- BadM0nkey has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 11:48:53 yep. Jan 11 11:49:04 so.... anyone wanna buy a PDA? (just kidding) Jan 11 11:51:45 grr... Jan 11 11:52:56 --> okmeufilho (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 11:53:14 --> lewnidas_ (user@patr530-b150.otenet.gr) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 11:53:33 why I am banned from #ET? Jan 11 11:54:30 i dont see you in banlist... chanserv akick? Jan 11 11:54:35 --> sadsfae (1000@cpe-24-176-68-170.hky.nc.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 11:54:43 oh nm Jan 11 11:55:03 <-- lewnidas_ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 11:55:29 <-- Marverick has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 11:55:31 you are... Jan 11 11:57:02 --> alybabtus (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 11:57:05 <-- okmeufilho has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 11:58:32 <-- alybabtus has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 11:58:41 --> okmeufilho (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 11:58:50 #ET ? Jan 11 11:58:54 Entertainment Tonight? Jan 11 11:58:57 :S Jan 11 11:59:50 --> StevenR (~foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 12:01:10 #ET - Phone home, now Jan 11 12:03:06 ooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucch...... Jan 11 12:03:13 Jan 11 12:03:24 oooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuchhhhh...... Jan 11 12:03:32 Jan 11 12:05:07 --> Dominian (~dominian@dominian.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 12:06:02 --> NeUtr0N (~jeff@danyzone.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 12:07:15 <-- lightx has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 12:10:23 <-- StevenR has quit ("slackware...simplicity in a tgz package :)") Jan 11 12:14:04 --> cartesio (~cartesio@217.220.89.220) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 12:14:07 <-- cartesio (~cartesio@217.220.89.220) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 11 12:14:07 hi all Jan 11 12:18:14 lo sadsfae Jan 11 12:18:16 ltns Jan 11 12:19:18 <-- juice has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 12:22:08 --> juice (~juice@mo-65-40-189-111.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 12:31:31 <-- W|GG-Laptop has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 12:34:41 --> PiterPunk (~punk@200-206-132-181.dsl.telesp.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 12:35:46 hola PiterPunk , que tal? Jan 11 12:35:56 Dominian: Hi! -:) Jan 11 12:36:37 <-- chris-^ has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 12:37:26 --> elw0od21 (~io@ppp-62-11-186-19.dialup.tiscali.it) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 12:38:51 --> poolio (~bpoolio@pcp279080pcs.owngsm01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 12:38:58 <-- elwood has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 12:39:14 <-- prowlah has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 11 12:39:26 !seen sandman1 Jan 11 12:39:34 Anynoe seen Sandman1? Jan 11 12:39:43 -SeenServ- I last saw Sandman1 (~ravic@cpe-204-210-176-94.neo.rr.com) 25m 44s ago, quiting: Client Quit Jan 11 12:40:36 --> rh0` (~rolando@205.241.35.189) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 12:40:51 Oh dang Jan 11 12:41:27 --> duardo (~Eduardo@200.168.58.218) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 12:42:11 --> Da5iD (~Joey@216.201.237.243) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 12:45:39 --> HeatHawk (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 12:46:51 anyone knows what's the best classical doom for network play Jan 11 12:47:13 --> xZc (Network@079.c.010.mel.iprimus.net.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 12:47:14 fast tcp/ip based protocol Jan 11 12:47:30 sdogi: very good slackware related question Jan 11 12:47:30 Uhhh, doom? Not the original one. Jan 11 12:47:31 <-- Neur0 has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 11 12:47:33 but the answer is zdaemon Jan 11 12:47:38 --- xZc is now known as Neur0 Jan 11 12:50:21 meta-ridley: lol, i practically live in this channel, so why not Jan 11 12:50:31 it seems like zdaemon to me too Jan 11 12:50:50 --> crackerjack (1000@ip5452b530.speed.planet.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 12:51:26 but is it like csdoom? you can set up a server to some server through ssh and leave it as it is, connect to it when you want, etc.. it always runs? i think it's called in game joining Jan 11 12:53:40 --> ReNz0r`_ (objorkum@ti411110a080-0041.bb.online.no) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 12:58:54 <-- ReNz0r` has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 11 13:00:21 --> Glamous (~kvirc@218.79.176.23) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:01:13 --> prowlah (prowlah@cpe-66-75-115-226.socal.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:02:06 --> mentoriS (Spasimo@thesi36-b151.otenet.gr) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:02:37 hmm.. he is gonna die..although slack distro is good he hasnt made any progress Jan 11 13:02:37 --> R3nn (~R3nn@R3nn.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:03:01 ? Jan 11 13:03:03 --> Papyrus (unique@202.155.89.175) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:03:08 i mean pat Jan 11 13:03:12 hello slackers Jan 11 13:03:25 http://isec.pl/vulnerabilities/isec-0021-uselib.txt Jan 11 13:03:28 serious Jan 11 13:03:34 --> v3 (1000@219.64.133.189) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:03:59 phiend, will they make .29-rc2 .29 anytime soon? Jan 11 13:04:24 2.4 ? Jan 11 13:05:33 yeah Jan 11 13:05:39 yep Jan 11 13:05:49 I usually don't install rc kernels on my production machine you see ;) Jan 11 13:05:56 machines* Jan 11 13:05:58 including all the 2.6s up to 2.6.10 Jan 11 13:06:50 so I hope they will boost rc2 to 2.4.29 soon Jan 11 13:07:38 R3nn: check your source tree and look for the buggy code, if it's there then a hole you've got Jan 11 13:07:58 --> LSD`_ (~ianweb@dsl-220-235-30-143.wa.westnet.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:08:38 mentoriS: eh? Jan 11 13:08:56 hm, I'll move one or two to 2.4.29rc2 .. but luckily most of the boxen don't allow user shell access Jan 11 13:09:53 <-- NeUtr0N has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 13:10:18 R3nn : only root ? Jan 11 13:12:53 Papyrus, yeah, or just admin users (trusted) Jan 11 13:13:07 no remote root Jan 11 13:17:06 <-- wobbles (~huntsman@162.cust11.sa.dsl.ozemail.com.au) has left ##slackware ("Off to find a life....") Jan 11 13:17:57 --> ngallow (~ngallow@host-234.86.64.100.ispkenya.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:18:10 well is there a fix for the bug? Jan 11 13:18:47 --> tkd (~root@200.214.244.4) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:18:47 --- nixor sets ban on *!~root@* Jan 11 13:18:47 <-- nixor has kicked tkd from ##slackware (banned: It is very dangerous to IRC as root. Please return under a user account.) Jan 11 13:18:53 smoke break Jan 11 13:19:34 :P Jan 11 13:19:56 well?is there a fix? Jan 11 13:20:07 hm, there ought to be a quick response from the kernel team ... considering the impact Jan 11 13:20:30 xmm the only good of these bug is that its local.. Jan 11 13:20:41 indeed Jan 11 13:21:04 well u get to have access first and then use it. Jan 11 13:21:07 however, that still compromises a LOT of boxen around the globe ;) Jan 11 13:21:31 xmm. yes but imagine if it ws a remote :) Jan 11 13:21:48 then there's always the power-plug :P Jan 11 13:21:56 :) Jan 11 13:22:06 yes i think thats the best Jan 11 13:22:28 <-- wietze has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 11 13:22:30 <-- elw0od21 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 13:22:38 Mom mom turn the power supply off plz! Jan 11 13:22:43 lol Jan 11 13:22:58 (from the control board of the house ) :P Jan 11 13:23:11 <-- LSD` has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 13:23:30 result?some thing smells bad.. it is my PSU + my HDD Jan 11 13:23:31 :P Jan 11 13:23:41 barbq :) Jan 11 13:24:00 <-- ngallow (~ngallow@host-234.86.64.100.ispkenya.com) has left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.9.1 : http://kopete.kde.org") Jan 11 13:24:27 hmm, the C-API function mysql_real_escape_string() kinda sucks... oh well Jan 11 13:24:35 anyone know of a program to capture audio streams? Jan 11 13:24:39 --> [Granger] (Ecto@c-265f70d5.033-47-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:24:53 meta-ridley, can't xmms output to disk? Jan 11 13:25:13 hmm maybe.. wasnt aware of that Jan 11 13:26:03 if it can't by default, there ought to be a plugin diskwriter Jan 11 13:26:13 or such Jan 11 13:26:26 that and there are some plug-ins available to help with the stream quality while transfering to disk Jan 11 13:27:23 hm. thanks Allen, I wasn't aware of those :) Jan 11 13:28:04 thanks guys Jan 11 13:29:34 --> jita (~tejinder@61.0.73.63) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:29:49 <-- jita (~tejinder@61.0.73.63) has left ##slackware Jan 11 13:29:53 R3nn, Yeah they have them out there. I don't use them my self...diskwriter works for me but I have a friend thats an audio engineer (see: anal) and wanted some other crazy junk to boot Jan 11 13:31:01 <-- kiwi_uk has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 13:33:24 <-- willwork4foo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 13:34:09 <-- Neur0 has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 13:35:37 --> daniel__ (~daniel@adsl-67-115-229-152.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:35:40 <-- mentoriS has quit ("^-_-^-_-^-_-^-_-^-_-^-_-^-_-^-_/\/\/\/\/\/\/\_-________________________") Jan 11 13:36:57 --> elwood (~io@ppp-62-11-186-39.dialup.tiscali.it) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:38:04 --> prowlah_ (prowlah@cpe-66-75-115-226.socal.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:38:35 <-- v3 has quit ("leaving") Jan 11 13:39:16 --> teleyag (teleyag@177-72.mam.umd.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:43:02 --> boerst (~boerst@pD9EA6FD3.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:46:49 --> PauL (~awx@82.76.44.123) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:48:10 <-- poolio has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 13:48:56 <-- mmu_man has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 13:49:00 --> MOers (MOEs@Toronto-HSE-ppp3656530.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:49:03 <-- prowlah has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 13:49:03 --- prowlah_ is now known as prowlah Jan 11 13:49:08 --> mmu_man (revol@ALyon-112-1-18-29.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:49:44 i have a red subpixel on my lcd that has current going through it always such that it is black. do these ever fix themselves? Jan 11 13:50:12 <-- mmu_man has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 13:50:21 --> mmu_man (revol@ALyon-112-1-18-29.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 13:51:00 hmm vision doesn't like 4KB / line pastes Jan 11 13:51:29 tnhk!!!!!!! <--- what does that mean, some kind of abbrev ? Jan 11 13:53:26 <-- deckmar has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 13:53:54 umm Jan 11 13:54:02 tnhk.. hmm Jan 11 13:54:03 MOers-> no Jan 11 13:54:54 i have 2 dead pixels on my nintendo DS, i have to return it for repair as soon as i can put the damn thing down Jan 11 13:56:31 <-- nixn00b has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 13:58:09 <-- kspud has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 14:02:00 --> web_knows (~noname@webknows-0001.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 14:02:42 <-- lozlap has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 14:03:41 <-- okmeufilho has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 14:11:02 <-- Papyrus has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 14:11:18 <-- MOers has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 14:12:17 --> Polleke (polleke@polleke.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 14:14:26 --> Marverick (~slack4eve@200-101-037-246.cbabm7006.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 14:15:01 --> willwork4foo (~xxxx@fluorine.eu.sun.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 14:16:54 --> qmasterrr (1000@pD955A51E.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 14:17:57 --> radiohead (~dev_loop@80.80.160.51) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 14:18:30 <-- crackerjack has quit ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") Jan 11 14:18:37 ##slackware lo Jan 11 14:20:32 hi radiohead :) Jan 11 14:20:55 lo R3nn :) Jan 11 14:21:43 --> evets (~steve@ppp-66-143-155-96.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 14:23:38 --> Kurt (kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 14:24:04 <-- R3nn has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 14:26:25 --> adjacent (~scott@63.209.153.130) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 14:27:07 --> kiwi_uk (~kiwi_uk@212.219.225.104) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 14:39:59 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-216-76-226-233.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 14:43:21 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 14:43:24 <-- elwood has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 14:44:02 --> Azmeen (~MoThugz@219.95.230.12) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 14:44:14 --> cbpye (~BPye@adsl-068-157-166-011.sip.sav.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 14:46:32 <-- Kurt has quit ("A field of study can be safely considered complex when it starts using Hebrew letters for symbols.") Jan 11 14:47:17 --> sdogi_ (~java@84-50-21-175-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 14:47:39 <-- Frost^ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 14:48:30 --> ptlo (~senko@cmung610.cmu.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 14:49:32 --> okmeufilho (cxvvxcvdsf@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 14:53:05 <-- sdogi has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 14:53:24 *shivers* mac Jan 11 14:55:29 <-- kiwi_uk has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 14:56:48 I used to liek the idea of a mac until i tried one. Jan 11 15:00:48 mac is great Jan 11 15:01:07 the osx ones and after Jan 11 15:03:11 See, I like the OS...not so much hardware Jan 11 15:04:22 I think it looks good and you can tell they put thought into it, Its just the whole all-in-one designs and what not. When I had my ibook I was first unaware that the wireless card would go under the keyboard Jan 11 15:04:36 which kinda sucked because I Had this really bitch'n attena I was hook up to it Jan 11 15:04:38 :-D Jan 11 15:04:40 RANGE! Jan 11 15:04:49 <-- okmeufilho has quit ("Vision[0.9.7-SF-010705]: i've been blurred!") Jan 11 15:04:54 the hardware is great too, mainly the processor, they do have some non-standard hardware thats a pain though Jan 11 15:05:22 yeah, the powerbooks have something that looks like a pcmcia slot Jan 11 15:05:42 Yeh I mean I like PPC as an arch, its the whole ....What we give you is what you get Jan 11 15:05:48 the antenna in the ibook is pretty fly Jan 11 15:05:58 but its no pringles can yagi Jan 11 15:06:46 OHH!, I was really bitter at having to buy Apple approved memory too. Jan 11 15:06:55 macs are not for people that want to hook up Jan 11 15:06:55 --> StevenR (~foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:07:08 apple approved? Jan 11 15:07:15 Yeah Jan 11 15:07:20 i think crucial sells memory, apple prices it too high Jan 11 15:07:25 I had to buy memory right from apple Jan 11 15:07:47 I did, bought 512 and only half of it would show up in the system Jan 11 15:08:15 macs used to be for people that wanted to hook up there random crap high-school-project hardware :-D Jan 11 15:08:20 <-- inflex has quit ("wrong button") Jan 11 15:08:36 now they are just too beatufiul... Jan 11 15:08:39 macs are for people who want to get work done, and have things 'just work' Jan 11 15:08:46 yeah ananke Jan 11 15:09:07 "if you want your computer to be an extension of yourself, use a mac" Jan 11 15:09:23 I just can't get over the idea of spending more money on less hardware. Jan 11 15:09:36 I agree with At0mic Jan 11 15:09:36 instead i excercise my syadmin-fu on slack x86 Jan 11 15:09:46 ananke: That si all nice and all, but i found many mac apps have habit of makign you do stuff in a particular way. Jan 11 15:09:47 Though I would like to get one of the monitors for my PC working. Jan 11 15:09:48 and i'm always amazed with apple stuff: hell, even their packages have been well designed. and by packages i mean cardboard boxes Jan 11 15:10:05 At0mic_PC : what kind of 'more money on less hardware'? Jan 11 15:10:27 Slower processor speeds. Things like that. Jan 11 15:10:28 Take itunes for exmaple. Great little app. As logn as you want to keep your library in a flat list god knows where on disk. Jan 11 15:10:30 i think the ibooks are the best Jan 11 15:10:38 anake, If I spend 1299 on a machine...I better more than 64 meg FX5200 under the hood Jan 11 15:10:40 At0mic_PC : that argument is a bs perpetuated by people who like to buy high-school-science-project hardware from the cheapest mexican vendor Jan 11 15:10:48 the lower transistor count means better abttery life Jan 11 15:10:53 *battery Jan 11 15:11:04 I guess that'd be me. :) Jan 11 15:11:05 Nah, the price is ok. THey are more expensive than PCs but that i can live with. Jan 11 15:11:13 my ibook has not required a battery change for the last 2 years Jan 11 15:11:18 Tubez : sure. and itunes just works. Jan 11 15:11:44 the processor speeds are different because the ppc arch gets more done with lower clock speeds Jan 11 15:11:49 ananke: Precisely. It's elegant too. Jan 11 15:12:06 Tubez : very. and very damn useful. that's the only music app i use. Jan 11 15:12:08 what they need to do though is ship with more memory, this 256mB crap aint cutting ti anymroe Jan 11 15:12:08 ananke: But i get really claustrophobic with it. Jan 11 15:12:28 Tubez : what do you mean? i got over 10 thousand songs in itunes Jan 11 15:12:57 *it anymore Jan 11 15:13:25 --> hnaz (~hannes@p5083DA9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:13:32 ananke: it just does not reflect the way i think about my music, and there is no way to make it. It is very hard to put in words. Jan 11 15:13:42 and macs dont get as hot so apple can get away with the pizza box design and not burning your lap with an ibook Jan 11 15:14:06 ? my ibook got pretty hot Jan 11 15:14:18 4ghz pentuim4 will fry in a pizzabox/laptop design Jan 11 15:14:20 apple stuff is just amazingly elegant. i mean hell - they finally figured out that less wiress = good. their monitors carry power and data in the same signal Jan 11 15:14:32 <-- hnaz (~hannes@p5083DA9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has left ##slackware ("^C") Jan 11 15:14:39 Yeah, got to hand them that. Jan 11 15:14:44 Tubez : if you can't put it in words, then you shouldn't have said anything about it :) Jan 11 15:14:47 And their stuff looks great. Jan 11 15:15:11 I'm still bitter over the one button mouse lol GIVE ME TWO BUTTONS! Jan 11 15:15:13 --> lab_rat (~Lab_Rat@205-178-43-169.s423.tnt1.sfrn.ca.dialup.rcn.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:15:15 * AllenOne jokes Jan 11 15:15:26 AllenOne-> heh its for lefties Jan 11 15:15:27 <-- Marverick has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 15:15:28 AllenOne : you can always attach a mouse with two buttons Jan 11 15:15:35 ananke: Yup, got me there ;) Jan 11 15:15:52 Actually I did Jan 11 15:15:53 :-D Jan 11 15:16:02 but on a laptop it was hard to break it out all the time Jan 11 15:16:20 I will say this though, I loved the battery life Jan 11 15:16:44 I didn't like the fact that my links would break if I created them in the gui after about a month or two Jan 11 15:17:07 I don't know if the mouse would be a problem for me or not. Jan 11 15:17:13 links? like ln -s ? Jan 11 15:17:19 yeah my sim links Jan 11 15:17:20 Or like golf game? :D Jan 11 15:17:23 I don't know why either Jan 11 15:17:25 On games it would be but I do like keyboard shortcuts. Jan 11 15:17:25 hahaha Jan 11 15:17:30 i think apple uses the alias command for links and such Jan 11 15:17:33 links golf...its been a while Jan 11 15:18:35 --> Enigma-- (~poop@acs-24-154-102-234.zoominternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:19:07 I plan on getting another but its going to be an emac Jan 11 15:19:19 Why do people make things harder than what they really are? Jan 11 15:19:25 Anyway, i guess the logn and short of it is that for the time beign i have decided to stick to PCs due to personality conflicts. I *am* considerign buyign a tibook just so i can look at it ;) Jan 11 15:19:47 Dominian, cause I think they get paid for it now Jan 11 15:19:56 AllenOne: I wouldn't doubt it Jan 11 15:20:00 lol @ AllenOne Jan 11 15:20:16 * Dominian is sick of hearing excuses as to why this ONE damn thing can't get done. Jan 11 15:20:18 its like everything needs an acronym Jan 11 15:20:26 * AllenOne should of got a tibook...think it might of been better ofption Jan 11 15:20:30 option Jan 11 15:20:31 that is Jan 11 15:20:47 I think I need to change my nick to Commander Typo Jan 11 15:21:01 --> turbano (~user@201.1.150.50) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:21:20 Or Typo Elitist Jan 11 15:21:30 hahah sure! Jan 11 15:21:50 smoke time Jan 11 15:21:56 what are you "trying" to get done DOminian Jan 11 15:24:22 speaking of smoke /away Jan 11 15:24:52 <-- ptlo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 15:25:21 <-- radiohead has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 15:25:37 --> sysctl (~noname@200.190.123.242) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:26:01 --> DuRaZNo (~durazno@200.121.212.48) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:26:19 hi there Jan 11 15:26:55 hi Jan 11 15:26:56 --- sysctl is now known as pthread Jan 11 15:28:09 --> MAN_Hater (~Too_Rude@adsl-70-240-81-120.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:28:47 <-- pthread (~noname@200.190.123.242) has left ##slackware Jan 11 15:31:23 <-- jmknsd has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 15:31:29 --> mastertet (~mastertet@poste174-103.crchul.ulaval.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:31:30 --> radiohead (~dev_loop@80.80.160.51) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:32:52 --> syscall (~noname@webknows-0001.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:32:53 --- nixor removes ban on *!~root@* Jan 11 15:33:00 <-- web_knows has quit ("leaving") Jan 11 15:33:25 <-- syscall has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 15:33:34 <-- duardo has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 15:33:39 --> web_knows (~noname@webknows-0001.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:34:05 man pwd Jan 11 15:34:15 --> tintin (1000@219.64.133.92) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:35:58 --> kiwi_uk (~kiwi_uk@212.219.225.104) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:35:58 --> nachox (Emi@200-122-56-249.dsl.prima.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:36:18 * MAN_Hater mumbles d*mn q for quit Jan 11 15:36:33 * MAN_Hater waves to nachox Jan 11 15:36:39 --> taortan (~taortan@83.145.62.70) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:36:44 hey Jan 11 15:36:47 grrr Printer using device file "/dev/usb/lp0"... Jan 11 15:36:54 LPGETSTATUS returned a port status of 18... Jan 11 15:37:14 and will then just print an empty page Jan 11 15:37:45 hey I ain't too smart but how can it be usb and lp0 ? Jan 11 15:38:08 I think it was caused by start using the usbfs, it did work. Let's put cups in debug2 log mode Jan 11 15:38:37 MAN_Hater : because of the fact that people are used to calling printer devices 'lp' Jan 11 15:38:57 the weird part is that this is only happening with files comming from samba. Files comming from lpr-cups work Jan 11 15:39:11 its because of the way udev names devices Jan 11 15:39:12 freaking 2gig ...log file....with the compressing Jan 11 15:39:33 ananke - ahh - so is the set up a adapter coming out of the parralel port then using some adapter to become usb ? Jan 11 15:39:43 --> dadexter (~dadexter@modemcable032.0-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:39:45 --> DaSkreech (~Me@port0512-adsl.cwjamaica.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:39:48 MAN_Hater : nope. it's just a name, nothing else. Jan 11 15:39:50 no MAN_Hater Jan 11 15:40:04 <-- toshin has quit ("-") Jan 11 15:40:05 it can be changed with /etc/udev/rules.d Jan 11 15:40:15 Hello Jan 11 15:40:17 * nachox likes udev Jan 11 15:40:33 <-- lab_rat (~Lab_Rat@205-178-43-169.s423.tnt1.sfrn.ca.dialup.rcn.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 11 15:40:36 are there any options that i can use with the IDE install kernel? Jan 11 15:41:28 AllenOne: had to do with the game server I help admin Jan 11 15:41:39 Most importantly for memory Jan 11 15:42:00 What you you guys use for a firewall? Any thing thats not writing iptables commands out in rc.firewall? Jan 11 15:42:14 * Dominian just uses iptables Jan 11 15:42:23 Or even better are they documented somewhere? Jan 11 15:42:45 * arpawolf just uses iptables as well.. Jan 11 15:42:54 DaSkreech : sure. they're documented on kernel.org. now explain your problem. Jan 11 15:43:00 kiwi_uk: I write a script, but i've heard good things about firestarter - http://www.fs-security.com/ Jan 11 15:43:19 I'm trying to boot Vector Linux on a laptop with 64M of RAM Jan 11 15:43:27 kiwi_uk, are you not liking iptables? Jan 11 15:43:31 I choose the IDE option and it uncompresses Jan 11 15:43:43 Psirom: I've been trying firestarter, it just crashes. Jan 11 15:43:47 then has a kernel panic since it says the inode block is too small Jan 11 15:43:51 ##slackware != #vector Jan 11 15:43:56 * MAN_Hater needs to tell Polleke something but I forgot what is was now (something you were working on this weekend Jan 11 15:44:17 if I try to boot with linux (there is nothing on the laptop) it panics again Jan 11 15:44:23 Polleke: Well I've been using Shorewall but I'm unsatisfied with its logging, and I didn't really want to have to delve into iptables. I've got a NAT setup so I gathered there was a lot to learn. Jan 11 15:44:45 If i boot with Linux mem=64M it boots till it realizes the hard drive is empty Jan 11 15:44:51 kiwi_uk: try http://lnxfire.sourceforge.net/ Jan 11 15:44:52 --> ximpul_ (~antoniocr@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:45:05 hang on, don't :) Jan 11 15:45:06 * Polleke was working this weekend with sane, websites and the wine appdb Jan 11 15:45:09 If there is a mem option for the ide install kernel it would help a lot Jan 11 15:45:13 Thanks ananke Jan 11 15:45:35 DaSkreech : mem=xxx Jan 11 15:45:36 Polleke, yu have both cups and lprng installed? Jan 11 15:45:41 kiwi_uk, nah, it's alot, you should have digged into iptables at the first place Jan 11 15:45:49 I tried that Jan 11 15:45:53 nachox, I have, but only using cups Jan 11 15:45:58 DaSkreech : that's the only option regarding how much memory you have. it shouldn't affect your hard drive detection Jan 11 15:46:14 Well if I'm installing it doesn't even get that far Jan 11 15:46:25 It uncompresses does an intial probe then panics Jan 11 15:46:36 Polleke, uninstall lprng and cups and reinstall cups, it will change some symlinks Jan 11 15:46:36 <-- MAN_Hater has quit ("If you are reading this then it exited correctly : If you are not reading this ; then why did I write it ?") Jan 11 15:46:37 Psirom: lnxfire is nice and up to date I see :) Jan 11 15:46:47 nachox, sure, but I don't mind Jan 11 15:46:53 The filesystem is in Memory but the inode blocks are too small it says Jan 11 15:47:07 kiwi_uk: http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?lastnode_id=854872&node_id=1392668 will help you set up a NAT firewall.. it's a good guide Jan 11 15:47:29 Thanks Jan 11 15:47:31 --> vmhobbes (vmhobbes@ipdial-187-117.tri-isys.com) has joined ##Slackware Jan 11 15:47:39 <-- ximpul_ has quit ("[BX] Windows 95, coded entirely by blondes") Jan 11 15:47:39 Polleke, well, i was only trying to help you with the printing problem.... Jan 11 15:47:41 I'll probably just stick with Shorewal until Firestart starts working Jan 11 15:47:45 seeing as Shorewall is working Jan 11 15:48:00 --> ximpul_methods (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:48:03 <-- willwork4foo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 15:48:13 <-- ximpul has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 15:48:33 nachox, I understand, but it's not related to that. It's probably related to my kernel changes from last week to my router Jan 11 15:48:40 --> willwork4foo (~xxxx@fluorine.eu.sun.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:48:49 <-- ximpul_methods has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 15:49:00 ananke: Sorry if I explained too much Jan 11 15:49:43 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:49:47 man.. 2:30 can not come soon enough Jan 11 15:49:53 --> blackhat-- (1000@217.219.181.122) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:50:24 Dominion: wassup at 2:30? Jan 11 15:50:27 ananke: Do you mean I should use ide mem=XXU? Jan 11 15:50:28 Dominian: 2:30 has already been and gone Jan 11 15:50:33 <-- ximpul has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 15:50:34 arpawolf: I go home Jan 11 15:50:38 willwork4foo: for you :P Jan 11 15:50:40 bash-3.00$ date Jan 11 15:50:40 Tue Jan 11 14:49:45 GMT 2005 Jan 11 15:50:45 ahhh.. always nice.. Jan 11 15:50:46 willwork4foo: it's 9:50 am for me right now Jan 11 15:50:46 :) Jan 11 15:50:51 ouchies. Jan 11 15:50:56 right. I'm off to get fruit. Jan 11 15:51:00 damn brits Jan 11 15:51:01 hehe Jan 11 15:51:11 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:53:57 --> madsj (~nospam@cpe.atm2-0-1041101.0x50c513e6.virnxx12.customer.tele.dk) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 15:56:03 So then I can't install slackware on the laptop then? Jan 11 15:59:15 grrrr. where in the hell is my replacement drive for my server... Jan 11 15:59:17 * Dominian checks Jan 11 16:00:51 --> StarScream (~none@217.169.25.114) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:01:11 <-- SlackFart has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 16:02:05 <-- nachox has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 16:02:20 hey guys, working on my slack box, need a way thats less laggy than VNC to access either a wintendo or an OSX machine (don't ask....painfull to explain.)? Jan 11 16:02:35 --> SlackFart (~el_fart0@dc51468581.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:02:47 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:02:49 <-- Glamous has quit ("Using KVIrc 3.0.1 'System Virtue'") Jan 11 16:03:50 G'morning Jan 11 16:03:55 --> Tadej (universe@tadej.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:03:57 Morning Jan 11 16:04:00 hi Jan 11 16:04:17 What up Jan 11 16:04:19 ? Jan 11 16:04:20 Hello Tadej Jan 11 16:04:37 * DaSkreech has to abandon slackware as viable Jan 11 16:04:44 Why? Jan 11 16:05:00 --> Dario (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:05:04 <-- phiend has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 16:05:06 morning peeps Jan 11 16:05:08 Sweet! IBM is making 500 of it's patents freely available to F/OSS developers. Jan 11 16:05:18 Too little memory for the install to boot up Jan 11 16:05:26 FriedBob: Link? Jan 11 16:05:45 One sec Jan 11 16:05:45 StarScream: Netcat Jan 11 16:06:07 There's now 23 people watching my PDA auction, and over 560 views Jan 11 16:06:07 http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050110235654673 && http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/11/technology/11soft.html?oref=login Jan 11 16:06:10 hurray Jan 11 16:06:13 i'm almost done setting up a slackware silent bootsplash, now i just need to know how to go to "Verbose Mode" automatically after the system is completely loaded. Any ideas? Jan 11 16:06:16 hope it goes for a good price Jan 11 16:06:22 --> lab_rat (~Lab_Rat@205-178-43-169.s423.tnt1.sfrn.ca.dialup.rcn.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:06:34 DaSkreech: So you have what, 4mb or less? Jan 11 16:06:36 --> [TK]D-Fender (~joe@4.67.252.216.dsl1.colba.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:06:51 no 64MB Jan 11 16:06:59 thats a nice PDA foo Jan 11 16:07:38 DaSkreech: Then something is fscked up, as I've got slackware 10 running on a dual P90 w/ 64mb ram, and I've had it running in 40 on a dx/4 100 Jan 11 16:07:52 Even had 9.1 installed on a box with only 12mb ram Jan 11 16:08:13 * DaSkreech doesn't doubt it :) Jan 11 16:08:40 My install though boots then kernel panics saying the inode size is too small Jan 11 16:08:57 If I use linux mem=64M then it boots fine Jan 11 16:09:07 Problem is the hard drive is empty so it doesn't get very far Jan 11 16:09:09 can you toss that in lilo? Jan 11 16:09:18 eep. :p Jan 11 16:09:31 DaSkreech: Weird, I've never had to use a mem= line before. Jan 11 16:09:54 Well apparently the ide/scsi option do not support it Jan 11 16:10:20 So .. I'm hosed unless there is a way I can customize the kernel to boot for a 64M machine Jan 11 16:10:46 <-- Dario has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 16:11:33 FriedBob: The error seems to be expecting more memory. It tries to free memory (146K) then panics again and dies Jan 11 16:12:54 DaSkreech: Freeing kernel memory is normal. Jan 11 16:13:09 Mine frees 156k or so of "unused kernel memory" Jan 11 16:13:21 Right Jan 11 16:13:38 How big are your HDDs and what inode size did you use? Jan 11 16:14:07 3GB Jan 11 16:14:14 one HDD Jan 11 16:14:21 64M of RAM Jan 11 16:14:31 wow that's a kickass system :P Jan 11 16:14:34 What inode size when you formatted? 1k, 2k or 4k? Jan 11 16:14:55 * DaSkreech isn't sure. It's a company that foramtted it and gave it away Jan 11 16:14:56 And what FS? Jan 11 16:15:03 I'm trying to save it Jan 11 16:15:04 --> LSD` (~ianweb@dsl-220-235-30-143.wa.westnet.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:15:05 With Linux on it? Jan 11 16:15:09 no Jan 11 16:15:12 There is nothing on it Jan 11 16:15:19 random zeros and ones Jan 11 16:15:51 Ok. Jan 11 16:16:14 And you are trying to install Slack on it, or add it to an existing Slack install? Jan 11 16:16:32 Install VectorLinux on it Jan 11 16:16:41 Vec Linux is supposed to be Slacklite :) Jan 11 16:16:57 --> dario (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:17:26 The only option I get is to choose the boot kernel Jan 11 16:17:31 hey, i have a very quick question. Do i need hotplug to try to detect hw on boot? I have the same hardware all the time. Jan 11 16:17:35 I go with IDE and it doesn't fly Jan 11 16:17:40 And the detection process takes a long time. Jan 11 16:17:45 I try some memory options and it doesn't fly Jan 11 16:18:00 So I seek advice Jan 11 16:18:07 * DaSkreech is here advice seeking Jan 11 16:18:17 dario: you dont need it. I use it for my usb stuff.....You can background the process in the rc.M script to increase speed. Jan 11 16:18:28 DaSkreech: Oh. Vectort forked a few versions back, AFAIK. Might be better off asking in #vector or ##vector. Jan 11 16:18:52 dario: hotplug detects extra stuff like usb flash drives which you plug in randomly while you're using it Jan 11 16:18:52 #vectorlinux actually Jan 11 16:19:02 Close enough. ;) Jan 11 16:19:04 StevenR, that's what i thought. and if i plug in my digital camera afterwards, will it work as normal? or will i need to run hotplug? Jan 11 16:19:05 FriedBob: Guess where they pointed me too :) Jan 11 16:19:11 Heh. Jan 11 16:19:22 dario: you will need hotplug to register the device. Jan 11 16:19:29 I would think that the boot kernels would not need to be touched Jan 11 16:19:42 StevenR: ok, so run hotplug before i plug in the camera. :) Jan 11 16:19:51 dario: because you are "hotplugging". Jan 11 16:20:02 That sounds dirty. :) Jan 11 16:20:06 dario: no, run it on bootup, but run it in the background. Jan 11 16:20:33 DaSkreech: I could probably help w/ an actual Slack issue, but no idea when it comes to Vector, and I suspect its the same for most of us here. VectorLinux != Slackware (anymore) Jan 11 16:20:36 dario: ooooh... how do i bckground it? give me a sec to open up the script. Jan 11 16:20:57 Well since I'm going to have to give up on this anyway Jan 11 16:21:14 FriedBob: Is there an option for the install kernel? Jan 11 16:21:26 FriedBob: and is it documented anywhere? Jan 11 16:21:28 i said that to myself. i'm dumb. Jan 11 16:21:43 dario: http://rafb.net/paste/results/sQS0VD37.html note the addition of the & Jan 11 16:21:45 how ho i use usbstick in slackware Jan 11 16:21:46 ? Jan 11 16:22:09 StevenR: K, gimmie a sec. I'm in the console. :p Jan 11 16:22:11 So at the very least I can play around with Slackware and try to pare it down Jan 11 16:22:14 Tadej: use hotplug, set up a mount point and fstab entry. Jan 11 16:22:30 StevenR: any good howtos? Jan 11 16:22:40 Tadej: plug it in and see if the kernel detects it. use dmesg Jan 11 16:22:56 <-- mmu_man has quit ("Vision[0.9.6-0203]: i've been blurred!") Jan 11 16:23:03 USB Mass Storage device found at 2 Jan 11 16:23:51 Tadej: anything else? Jan 11 16:24:31 ok it works Jan 11 16:24:38 I mounted /dev/sda1 Jan 11 16:24:40 :P Jan 11 16:24:53 DaSkreech: I've never booted the CD to install, I've always just picked a kernel (bare.i or adaptec.s) and used rawrite to make myself a boot floppy. Jan 11 16:24:54 Tadej: slackware == simple :P Jan 11 16:25:14 :P Jan 11 16:25:15 Tadej: now just make a mount point so normal users can mount it. Jan 11 16:25:20 FriedBob: ok would the bar.i have options? Jan 11 16:25:24 and an fstab entry] Jan 11 16:25:26 --> feross (~feross@techdept.boca.prosolutionsinc.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:25:28 bare.i even Jan 11 16:25:48 <-- dario has quit ("BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") Jan 11 16:26:03 DaSkreech: Options for what? All the kernels can take options to force hardware detection or provide IRQ/IO info to ceretain modules. Jan 11 16:26:23 <-- ximpul has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 16:26:25 --> sami__ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:26:42 FriedBob: Well memory options as that seems to be the hold up for me Jan 11 16:28:56 --> Frost^ (~Weiss@tony06-80-143.inter.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:29:15 <-- lab_rat (~Lab_Rat@205-178-43-169.s423.tnt1.sfrn.ca.dialup.rcn.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 11 16:29:18 --> valefor (~valefor@xargent-3-82-226-152-61.fbx.proxad.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:29:38 --> Dario (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:29:47 that did indeed speed up boot, thanks StevenR Jan 11 16:30:06 Dario: monitor it, just to make sure nothign breaks Jan 11 16:30:31 <-- LSD`_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 16:30:37 DaSkreech: Yes, you should still be able to use mem=, but you may not need it. Jan 11 16:30:49 dmesg | grep hotplug doesn't output anything, i can't remember if it did before. Jan 11 16:31:05 FriedBob: Ah .. What would i need? Jan 11 16:31:17 Since mem=XX doesn't seem to be working Jan 11 16:31:33 hey, doesn't look like anyone on #qmail has a pulse anyone here that can help me with qmail? don't want to post OT. Jan 11 16:32:27 DaSkreech: Try no options? Jan 11 16:32:42 as in noapm etc? Jan 11 16:32:49 or zero options? Jan 11 16:36:05 what do I have to change if I wont to put my mouse on usb? Jan 11 16:36:11 want even Jan 11 16:36:27 now I have usb/ps2 adapter Jan 11 16:36:34 well Jan 11 16:36:45 you got usb support compiled in kernel Jan 11 16:37:04 I dont know Jan 11 16:37:10 usbstick works :P Jan 11 16:37:14 well take a look at /proc/bus/usb Jan 11 16:38:14 Dario: that's fine....i dont either and everything works good here Jan 11 16:38:20 --> weedz (~weedz@frummel.student.utwente.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:38:20 if you want to get the mouse working in x11 just change the mouse device in the config file Jan 11 16:38:34 daniel__: to what? Jan 11 16:38:59 do ls /proc/bus/usb Jan 11 16:39:14 woot woot. :p Jan 11 16:39:21 --> Rick- (~rick@201.128.16.204) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:39:41 * foureyes779 w00t's back Jan 11 16:40:04 piksna root ~$ ls /proc/bus/usb Jan 11 16:40:04 001 002 003 004 devices Jan 11 16:40:17 cool Jan 11 16:40:22 you have it Jan 11 16:40:31 so what do I change Jan 11 16:40:39 and to what i change it? Jan 11 16:41:18 not having /proc/bus/usb is does _not_ mean no usb support by the way. It's the usbfs Jan 11 16:42:23 cat /proc/bus/usb/devices Jan 11 16:44:08 DaSkreech: On the CD there should be a file called booting.txt or the like, read that. Jan 11 16:44:27 FriedBob: Thanks Jan 11 16:45:03 try changing it to /dev/input/mice Jan 11 16:45:33 or perhaps /dev/usbmouse0 Jan 11 16:45:34 * Polleke is gone for a reboot to 'the other os', he has a weird cups no longer printing samba input. Cups printing does work tough Jan 11 16:45:37 <-- Polleke has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 16:46:16 <-- turbano has quit ("...mais tem o que não pode os mano, é doutro lado mais é é pela orde vamo dá mó mamão só catá demorou, ó só, ti pus na fita q) Jan 11 16:51:24 <-- Azmeen has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 16:53:03 --> jmedina (~jmedina@209.205.213.234) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:56:41 --> Sgt`ex0s (ex0s@c-0652e253.628-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:56:42 --> Analyzer (~Analyzer@ts3-a134.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:57:38 omg its analyzer Jan 11 16:57:51 --> AcIdR3IgN (~someone@21-198.245.81.adsl.skynet.be) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:58:36 daniel__, hello:) Jan 11 16:58:36 <-- ^Jenn has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 16:58:48 Zdravstvuyte. Jan 11 16:58:49 --> ^Jenn (~jenn@jenn-0000002.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:58:57 --> eelriverlt (~murph@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 16:59:39 daniel__, escho chto nibud znaesh po roosky? Jan 11 16:59:55 eelriverlt, ^Jenn: G'morning Jan 11 17:00:19 FriedBob, Morning Jan 11 17:00:21 hey all Jan 11 17:00:30 What up? Jan 11 17:00:30 mornin Jan 11 17:00:39 da, mne pochemu-to kazhetsa chto ya govoril po russki mnogo let Jan 11 17:00:52 <-- Flu-Virii has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 17:01:02 damn does anyone have a good howto on kernel compilation... cause i've been trying this all day... for somereason my eth0 and stuff have dissappeared (they can't be found in /dev either) :/ Jan 11 17:01:22 AcIdR3IgN what network card do you have? Jan 11 17:01:39 daniel__, ti ne emmigrant sloochyno?:) Jan 11 17:01:47 AcidChild: lspci is a kernel compilers best friend Jan 11 17:01:52 sloochayno, da, ya emmigrant :P Jan 11 17:01:55 it's from Via, RhineII or something Jan 11 17:02:03 AcIdR3IgN: slackwiki.org look in the Tutorials section Jan 11 17:02:15 --> kelsey_requiem (kelsey@82.131.140.7) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:02:17 hi all Jan 11 17:02:30 via, ouch Jan 11 17:02:50 daniel__, a gde ranshe gil? Jan 11 17:02:58 v moskve Jan 11 17:03:05 ohh Jan 11 17:03:20 ty Jan 11 17:04:08 daniel__, a seychas? Jan 11 17:04:23 daniel__: it's VIA Technologies, Inc VT6102 [Rhine-II] so lspci finds that info, but why is the kernel taking away my eth0 :/ Jan 11 17:04:37 could anyone help me with setting up ADSL on slax? Jan 11 17:04:48 --> ^larry (~dev@bgp01014816bgs.rosvle01.mi.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:05:06 there seems to be a problem with it. Jan 11 17:05:12 <^larry> can someone please help me with burning a .iso Jan 11 17:05:35 a seychas v kalifornii Jan 11 17:05:55 <-- willwork4foo (~xxxx@fluorine.eu.sun.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 11 17:05:56 ^larry: use 'cdrecord' Jan 11 17:06:06 <^larry> thats what i am trying to use Jan 11 17:06:21 --> Flu-Virii (mrflu@what.if.bill.gates.lost.all.his.m0ney.org) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:06:26 cdrecord -data -speed=48 dev=/dev/sg0 blah.iso Jan 11 17:07:01 AcIdR3IgN did it work before Jan 11 17:07:45 <^larry> Cannot open SCSI driver. Jan 11 17:07:50 err Jan 11 17:07:53 no wait not sg0 Jan 11 17:08:04 anyone knows how to get svgalib apps to run without root or root suid ? Jan 11 17:08:51 I don't think you can Jan 11 17:08:57 use dev=/dev/scd0 Jan 11 17:09:10 daniel__: I'm trying to compile the 2.4.28 kernel... it did work before on the 2.4.26 kernel... (i still have that one), but i dunno why eth0 isnt showing, i checked everything i needed.. especially in the networking section Jan 11 17:09:30 --> blackhat_ (1000@217.219.181.72) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:09:39 <-- Analyzer has quit ("Quit") Jan 11 17:10:24 <^larry> csidev: '/dev/scd0' Jan 11 17:10:25 <^larry> devname: '/dev/scd0' Jan 11 17:10:25 <^larry> scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Jan 11 17:10:27 <^larry> Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported Jan 11 17:10:28 <-- nixor has kicked ^larry from ##slackware (flood) Jan 11 17:10:28 --> ^larry (~dev@bgp01014816bgs.rosvle01.mi.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:10:41 oh god lol Jan 11 17:10:46 that happens. :) Jan 11 17:10:47 <-- Yamabushi has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 11 17:10:54 <^larry> man i am lost lost lost Jan 11 17:11:13 that happens too. Jan 11 17:11:15 so am i. Jan 11 17:11:16 :) Jan 11 17:11:25 ^larry: cdrecord --version Jan 11 17:11:28 --> Analyzer (~Analyzer@ts3-a134.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:11:39 <^larry> drecord 2.00.3 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling Jan 11 17:11:40 ^larry: don't you have sthing like k3b or anything? Jan 11 17:11:51 <^larry> no k3b Jan 11 17:12:12 <^larry> its a fresh install of slackware10 Jan 11 17:12:20 <-- AllenOne has quit ("BitchX: born to raise hell") Jan 11 17:12:50 oh Jan 11 17:12:56 yeah Jan 11 17:13:07 im trying to remember what device you need to use Jan 11 17:13:18 <^larry> 0,1,0 1) 'LG ' 'CD-RW CED-8080B ' '1.06' Removable CD-ROM Jan 11 17:13:37 --> hell|work (~solaris@te-64-146-73-82.transedge.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:13:43 and that is... ? Jan 11 17:13:49 which device is that? Jan 11 17:13:59 cause that'll be the oneyou'll need to know Jan 11 17:14:12 --> sunbx (~awx@82.76.44.123) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:14:17 isn't there anything like cdrw ? Jan 11 17:14:31 you'll need to know? what am i talking about? :D Jan 11 17:14:34 <^larry> devname: 'ATAP' Jan 11 17:14:37 try dev=0,1,0 Jan 11 17:14:40 hello i got a huge problem. my system says each time i boot that /dev/hda4 contains file system with eroors and checks Jan 11 17:14:47 im trying to compile software on solaris10 x86 and in the config.log i get libstdc++.so.5 not found. LD_LIBRARY_PATH is set to /usr/local/lib where its at, and crle is configured with /usr/local/lib. still i get this error. Jan 11 17:15:04 if anyone can help me Jan 11 17:15:18 hell|work: we're not #solaris -_- Jan 11 17:15:37 anyway, i can't help ;/ Jan 11 17:15:44 someone else might be able to Jan 11 17:15:55 why dont you move it from /usr/local/lib to /lib Jan 11 17:16:06 ill try Jan 11 17:16:12 ^larry: did you try dev=0,1,0 Jan 11 17:16:41 nope Jan 11 17:16:46 <^larry> yes Jan 11 17:16:49 sunbx: run e2fsck -y /dev/hda4 Jan 11 17:16:51 <^larry> still no Jan 11 17:16:59 what do you get? Jan 11 17:17:12 <^larry> Cannot open SCSI driver Jan 11 17:17:19 --> thr1ce (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:17:27 oh wait Jan 11 17:17:31 i just realized something Jan 11 17:17:37 <^larry> what Jan 11 17:18:02 you dont need to use the SCSI driver anymore Jan 11 17:18:10 just use dev=/dev/hdX Jan 11 17:18:21 where X is the cdrw drive Jan 11 17:18:45 wasn't 'hd' supposed to stand for hard drive? Jan 11 17:18:54 if its an IDE drive right it should either be /dev/hda /dev/hdb /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd Jan 11 17:19:18 oaky Jan 11 17:19:21 <^larry> so it should be cdrecord -data -speed=5 dev=/dev/scd0 Jan 11 17:19:27 no Jan 11 17:19:30 you dont need to use SCSI Jan 11 17:19:51 dmesg |grep -i CD-RW Jan 11 17:19:59 it should be /dev/hdb or /dev/hdc or something Jan 11 17:20:18 <^larry> hdd: LG CD-RW CED-8080B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive Jan 11 17:20:22 there you go Jan 11 17:20:24 use dev=/dev/hdd Jan 11 17:20:28 and it should work Jan 11 17:21:00 can anyone solve my problem too? :) Jan 11 17:21:13 not if you don't ask :P Jan 11 17:21:19 <-- blackhat_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 11 17:21:26 * StarScream puts on his psycic hat Jan 11 17:21:36 umm Jan 11 17:21:41 well Jan 11 17:21:44 * daniel__ types /last kelsey_requiem Jan 11 17:21:51 08:03 could anyone help me with setting up ADSL on slax? Jan 11 17:21:54 oh ok Jan 11 17:21:56 just type Jan 11 17:22:00 --> Yamabushi (~Yamabushi@ip68-102-249-200.ks.ok.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:22:04 no that doesn't help. :) Jan 11 17:22:07 adsl-setup Jan 11 17:22:09 adsl-setup Jan 11 17:22:15 no, didn't help Jan 11 17:22:15 then adsl-connect Jan 11 17:22:19 still didn't Jan 11 17:22:21 i tried it Jan 11 17:22:28 Does slax has the RP-PPoE package in it? Jan 11 17:22:29 you need to edit Jan 11 17:22:30 <-- PauL has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 11 17:22:35 i guess Jan 11 17:22:45 If it doesn't, you are SoL until you add it. Jan 11 17:22:47 the /etc/ppp/pap-secrets Jan 11 17:22:52 and you need PPPoE support compiled Jan 11 17:22:54 <-- radiohead has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 17:22:55 into the kernel Jan 11 17:22:58 aham Jan 11 17:23:00 Or as a module. Jan 11 17:23:00 <^larry> drecord: Read-only file system. Cannot open '/dev/hdd'. Cannot open SCSI driver Jan 11 17:23:12 <-- vurte has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 17:23:17 isn't PPPoE support default? Jan 11 17:23:18 wtf Jan 11 17:23:24 --> OutpourDCC (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:23:33 what SCSI? :)) Jan 11 17:23:38 kelsey_requiem: Nothing is default unless the mainter sets it to be. Jan 11 17:23:48 <^larry> this sucks Jan 11 17:23:52 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 17:23:53 aham. Jan 11 17:24:45 err wait Jan 11 17:24:48 larry what kernel are you using Jan 11 17:24:52 uname -a Jan 11 17:25:00 <^larry> 2.4.26 Jan 11 17:25:02 FriedBob: it does have the package Jan 11 17:25:02 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Toronto-ppp296304.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:25:03 oh shit Jan 11 17:25:07 youre not in 2.6 :/ Jan 11 17:25:11 hello i got a huge problem. my system says each time i boot that /dev/hda4 contains file system with errors and checks . could be bad blocks ? is there a way to skip that 10 mins cheking ? its a 120 gb hdd :( Jan 11 17:25:18 <^larry> its a fresh install of 10 Jan 11 17:25:27 <^larry> i couldnt choose the 2.6 Jan 11 17:25:35 sunbx: skipping a file system check when there are possible errors is a bad idea Jan 11 17:25:40 <^larry> i just want to burn a cd Jan 11 17:25:48 it has rp-pppoe-3.5-i386-1 installed by default. Jan 11 17:25:49 have you tried k3b? Jan 11 17:25:52 --> bare_foot (~bare_foot@adsl-66-126-221-34.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:25:56 ^larry: Dod you have ide-scsi emulation? Jan 11 17:25:57 <^larry> i have used k3b before Jan 11 17:26:02 ^larry: compile the ide-scsi emulation Jan 11 17:26:07 ^larry: Try passing ise-scsi to the kernel and then mounting it as /dev/sda1 or so Jan 11 17:26:36 I believe in 2.4.26 that ide-scsi is already there Jan 11 17:26:56 he just needs to add append="hdc=ide-scsi" to his lilo.conf Jan 11 17:27:01 <^larry> for some reason i thought i added it to lilo.conf before Jan 11 17:27:08 <^larry> ahh thats it Jan 11 17:27:25 what about generic SCSI support does he need that Jan 11 17:27:54 <^larry> Dominian where should i add that again Jan 11 17:27:57 --> cp (1000@pD95D3BE3.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:28:17 --> angel_ (~durazno@200.121.212.48) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:28:22 lilo.conf Jan 11 17:28:56 <^larry> yes i know lilo.conf but where in lilo.conf anywhere ? Jan 11 17:29:31 after your root= statement Jan 11 17:30:00 <-- blackhat-- has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 17:30:00 <-- vmhobbes has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 17:30:07 <^larry> okay thank you very much guys Jan 11 17:30:29 <^larry> should i reboot and try again Jan 11 17:31:04 <-- DuRaZNo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 17:31:18 ^larry: yes Jan 11 17:31:59 --- angel_ is now known as DuRaZNo Jan 11 17:32:12 <^larry> "k Jan 11 17:32:14 man.. Evolution takes forever to compile Jan 11 17:32:14 <-- ^larry has quit ("[BX] bb bbba bbbba bbbitchx bitchx!!!") Jan 11 17:33:34 --> zomtec (~zomtec@p50810896.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:33:41 jeez, i really tried almost everything to get my adsl connection working, but it just won't. Jan 11 17:34:41 --> sami_ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:35:00 you also need ppp_async and ppp_synctty support buy you probably have those Jan 11 17:35:04 <-- cp has quit ("leaving") Jan 11 17:35:42 i guess i do. Jan 11 17:35:43 kelsey_requiem: what does /var/log/messages say about pppd? Jan 11 17:35:59 what should it say? Jan 11 17:36:04 what DOes it say? Jan 11 17:36:06 heh Jan 11 17:36:08 [i'm not under slax @ the moment] Jan 11 17:36:36 :\ Jan 11 17:36:37 it should give you some sort of an error Jan 11 17:36:42 aham Jan 11 17:36:48 okay, i'll check. Jan 11 17:36:50 like either connection couldnt be established or you dont have certain module Jan 11 17:36:58 well what it does Jan 11 17:37:07 --> raindog (~raindog@dervish.library.oregonstate.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:37:07 that i do the adsl-setup Jan 11 17:37:16 then i adsl-connect Jan 11 17:37:24 and then it says it's connected Jan 11 17:37:27 right Jan 11 17:37:31 adsl-status says either Jan 11 17:37:36 but you dont see like Jan 11 17:37:39 but nothing Jan 11 17:37:43 local IP address : balh Jan 11 17:37:46 remote IP address: blah Jan 11 17:37:48 you dont see that Jan 11 17:37:49 so i can't even ping or anyithing Jan 11 17:37:52 i do see them Jan 11 17:37:56 oh you DO Jan 11 17:37:59 erm Jan 11 17:38:05 my DNS servers work correctly Jan 11 17:38:06 try pinging 205.177.13.221 Jan 11 17:38:08 so you DO get an ip address? Jan 11 17:38:09 the net doesn't. Jan 11 17:38:13 oh Jan 11 17:38:14 heh Jan 11 17:38:21 then thats a diff story Jan 11 17:38:24 it is. :) Jan 11 17:38:27 kelsey_requiem: You need to ping an IP address before you say DNS is working properly Jan 11 17:38:40 DNS won't work without your network working correctly Jan 11 17:38:41 well i'm using the same DNS servers under windows Jan 11 17:38:46 at the moment... Jan 11 17:38:50 <-- Rick- has quit () Jan 11 17:38:53 you mean? Jan 11 17:38:54 Well, this isn't Windows Jan 11 17:39:06 i know that ;) Jan 11 17:39:16 --> foureyes778 (~theron@65-102-149-233.tukw.qwest.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:39:30 so any suggestions? Jan 11 17:39:37 <-- WizeGuy has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 11 17:39:48 i also had this problem when i once installed slackware 9.2 Jan 11 17:39:56 i mean the same problem Jan 11 17:40:20 how do you know DNS works properly? Jan 11 17:40:30 you mean? Jan 11 17:40:34 well Jan 11 17:40:42 because Windows say's so Jan 11 17:40:46 <-- jota has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 17:40:55 :P, yeah. Jan 11 17:40:58 heh Jan 11 17:41:11 sri, couldnt resist that one Jan 11 17:41:16 are you saying youre able to use DNS in slackware, or that the DNS servers are working when youre in windows Jan 11 17:41:17 <-- DuRaZNo has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 11 17:41:33 DNS servers fully functional using windows Jan 11 17:41:35 and Jan 11 17:41:42 --> jota (~jota@201.243.212.188) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:41:50 when i enter the stuff to my modem to build my connection Jan 11 17:42:00 it works fine with the same DNS servers... Jan 11 17:42:10 how do you know that? Jan 11 17:42:19 err Jan 11 17:42:38 if you get an IP Jan 11 17:42:38 well, net works when storing the username + password in my modem, but i can't reach certain pages then. Jan 11 17:42:46 in slackware Jan 11 17:42:54 <-- epic has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 17:43:07 --> Polleke (polleke@polleke.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:43:25 [sorry if i'd be acting stupid. ;) ] Jan 11 17:43:50 perhaps its a routing problem Jan 11 17:44:04 * foureyes779 whisper's "route add default gw 192.168.0.1 etho" Jan 11 17:44:11 look at your default routes.. do you even have one under slackware? can you ping it? Jan 11 17:44:48 perhaps you need the 'defaultroute' option Jan 11 17:45:03 okay... Jan 11 17:45:17 <-- Kriss has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 17:45:19 i'll check these, and if they work fine, i'll tell you. :) Jan 11 17:45:21 thanks. Jan 11 17:45:27 gotta try them now Jan 11 17:45:28 bye Jan 11 17:45:32 <-- kelsey_requiem (kelsey@82.131.140.7) has left ##slackware Jan 11 17:45:35 er Jan 11 17:45:38 --> Kriss (kriss@kriss.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:45:39 as expected, the printing problem that kept me going for 2 hours was the most obvious thing I overlooked for two hours. Sigh... Jan 11 17:46:04 Polleke: Forget to plug it in? Jan 11 17:46:17 nah, not that obvious Jan 11 17:46:31 turn it on ??? Jan 11 17:46:49 * foureyes778 speaks from experience on that one Jan 11 17:47:04 My printer is down cause of one little strip of plastic. Jan 11 17:47:12 windows printing to samba requires cups to be in raw mode. As the windows drivers are expecting that Jan 11 17:47:49 <-- s0ulslack has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 17:47:57 --> s0ulslack (soul@usr-if-71.rmci.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:48:31 <-- Sgt`ex0s has quit ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.8 :: www.XLhost.de )") Jan 11 17:48:33 and I was looking at the cups logs. There was an error in, that turned out to be not a fatal error at all. But a bug in the usb headers from the kernel Jan 11 17:48:35 --> compunix (FullT@200-140-064-098.gnace7003.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:50:18 --> DuRaZNo (~durazno@200.121.212.48) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:50:46 <-- sami__ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 17:51:14 --> ptlo (~senko@cmung282.cmu.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:51:28 what bittorrent client do you recommend? Jan 11 17:54:00 <-- cbpye has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 17:56:31 --> miguelanxo (~miguel@22.Red-80-33-35.pooles.rima-tde.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:56:34 hi Jan 11 17:56:37 --> sami__ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:57:00 does someone know how can I force a kill'ed -SIGABRT proccess to dump core? Jan 11 17:57:07 it just aborts ATM Jan 11 17:58:20 --> boow (~boow@dyn43-ter1-pittsburg.fament.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:58:38 --> newbie^ (1000@212.156.164.142) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 17:59:05 why dropline gnome whats the diference from normal gnome Jan 11 17:59:15 hello i want to create a reiserfs partition but i cant see reiserfs at the list when i typed cfdisk , Jan 11 17:59:20 how can i do that Jan 11 17:59:56 you need the reiserprogs package Jan 11 18:00:09 newbie^, you have partition types and file systems. There is a difference Jan 11 18:00:19 --> teck (~teck@toxo.com.uvigo.es) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:00:25 Polleke, how can i do that? Jan 11 18:00:27 can u tell me Jan 11 18:00:32 <-- teck (~teck@toxo.com.uvigo.es) has left ##slackware Jan 11 18:00:33 i wanna use partion as reiserfs Jan 11 18:00:34 newbie^, make it a linux partition type. Format it as a reiserfs Jan 11 18:00:48 how can i format that as reiserfs Jan 11 18:00:52 boow, #dropline Jan 11 18:01:03 the command is mkreiserfs Jan 11 18:01:09 --> duardo (~Eduardo@200.168.58.218) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:01:20 newbie^, and read man mkreiserfs first Jan 11 18:01:23 oh ok ill go there Jan 11 18:01:25 okay Jan 11 18:01:28 thanks Jan 11 18:01:32 u must be angel Jan 11 18:01:35 i love you Jan 11 18:01:50 lol Jan 11 18:01:59 * raindog feels the love Jan 11 18:02:00 yesterday I was your noob, and you looked for a 'guru' Jan 11 18:02:05 --> str (~str@216.230.158.50) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:02:06 not here i dont want anyone to know Jan 11 18:02:10 ahahaa Jan 11 18:02:19 Polleke, i understood my mistake Jan 11 18:02:22 im sorry man Jan 11 18:02:28 u must be a guru angel Jan 11 18:02:29 =P Jan 11 18:02:34 np Jan 11 18:02:37 Oh yeah Jan 11 18:02:39 I remember that Jan 11 18:02:43 ;DD Jan 11 18:02:46 --> Brioche (Souris4@Mix-Dijon-116-2-132.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:02:59 Polleke: almost increased my /ignore list by one when that all happened Jan 11 18:03:06 <-- compunix (FullT@200-140-064-098.gnace7003.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has left ##slackware Jan 11 18:03:29 Dominian: Heh Jan 11 18:03:47 --> Lurkan (~Lurkan@201.135.159.181) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:03:56 <-- Brioche (Souris4@Mix-Dijon-116-2-132.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr) has left ##slackware ("Il faut savoir partir... surtout s'il est grand temps !!!!") Jan 11 18:04:09 hehe, you said you always forgot you don't have to reboot for new modules. That got me in troubles once Jan 11 18:04:47 I was setting up a nfs daemon and needed some kernel changes and selected those as modules Jan 11 18:06:02 made the modules and insmodded them directly from the kernel source dir. And looked for hours why my nfs daemon refused to start. And to figure out in the end that there were some chnages to bzImage too, even when I selected just modules Jan 11 18:06:59 anyway back to core business, wc3 Jan 11 18:07:06 <-- neoslak has quit (Connection reset by peer) Jan 11 18:07:30 <-- sami_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 18:07:41 --> Silver (~mat@suedu3-200-26.utaonline.at) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:08:02 hello! how can i set system-wide aliases in slackware 10 (using bash) ? Jan 11 18:08:18 how do i set mc like in slack 9 , wih black and with no blue stuff ? Jan 11 18:10:20 <-- boow has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 18:10:26 Silver: look at /etc/profile or thereabouts. Jan 11 18:10:29 sunbx: man mc ? Jan 11 18:11:00 FriedBob: yeah that works, but when i log into root with "su" then i cant use the aliases Jan 11 18:11:09 Silver: Try su - Jan 11 18:11:28 su doesn't load the full environment unless you use the - options. Jan 11 18:11:30 <-- DaSkreech (~Me@port0512-adsl.cwjamaica.com) has left ##slackware Jan 11 18:11:39 --> Marine|Q3 (Marine@pool-151-197-48-233.phil.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:11:47 hi Jan 11 18:11:48 thanks Jan 11 18:12:10 i have a basic unix/linux question for ln Jan 11 18:12:21 Marine|Q3 : #linux Jan 11 18:12:22 --- ReNz0r`_ is now known as ReNz0r` Jan 11 18:12:32 cool Jan 11 18:12:35 <-- Marine|Q3 (Marine@pool-151-197-48-233.phil.east.verizon.net) has left ##slackware Jan 11 18:12:50 --> neoslak (~crb@205.240.139.203) has joined ##Slackware Jan 11 18:14:22 what is better to use? slapt-get or swaret? Jan 11 18:14:33 Silver: none of them. Jan 11 18:14:46 Silver: it's better to not use any of those tools Jan 11 18:15:16 pkgtool Jan 11 18:15:21 FriedBob: when i work with xterm or xrvt, the aliases also dont work Jan 11 18:15:38 FriedBob man mc ? why that ? i know that the -b option is what i need bot how do i set that as the default mc setting ? not for me , for all users on the system by default Jan 11 18:15:46 StevenR: why? Jan 11 18:16:06 Silver: Again, same basic issue. There are two sets of init files, one for all shells and one for login shells. Jan 11 18:16:28 sunbx: Then try creating an alias or link Jan 11 18:16:36 Silver: because of the number of times I have seen people come in here saying "I did this with swaret/slapt-get/etc and now my system wont boot/ wont do this/that/etc" Jan 11 18:16:59 FriedBob: where is the init file for all shells? Jan 11 18:17:42 Silver: You can use whatever, but be warned that you'll get no help here if you decide to use swaret or the like. Jan 11 18:18:04 <-- jmedina has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 18:18:10 StevenR: ok ,thanks! yeah i also dont want to use this, because i hat gentoo , and swaret is like emerge ;) Jan 11 18:18:40 Silver: Other than /etc/profile, I'm not sure, but it'd be in the same area. I think man or info will tell you more though, cause I don't really know beyond that one file. Jan 11 18:19:11 man bash tells me, that the global file is /etc/profile Jan 11 18:21:58 --> fred87_ (~fred87@217.180.15.160) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:22:10 can someone tell me quickly if 80.68.92.147 can be pinged? Jan 11 18:22:59 yes Jan 11 18:23:12 fsck... Jan 11 18:23:19 great :) i can't get at my own host... Jan 11 18:23:30 * fred87_ decides he hates his school Jan 11 18:23:30 Silver: bash uses /etc/profile, csh uses /etc/csh.login Jan 11 18:23:50 Silver: ksh and zsh probably uses the same of bash and tcsh the same of csh Jan 11 18:23:53 piterpunk! Jan 11 18:23:55 hi Jan 11 18:24:06 PiterPunk: does xterm csh use? Jan 11 18:24:11 fred87_: Hi! -:) How are you? Jan 11 18:24:22 good - only got kdepim left and that's all kde :) Jan 11 18:24:25 --> signal (~anarky@82.53.18.42) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:24:32 then just got to finish a few odds and ends, and do compat Jan 11 18:24:46 for compat, i'll just make a few scripts to turn normal slackpacks into compat backs Jan 11 18:25:11 Silver: xterm uses the same shell than your console (by default) Jan 11 18:25:32 PiterPunk: yeah and why doenst it work wiht xterm then? Jan 11 18:25:36 Silver: but xterm isn't a login shell and don't load the /etc/profile... if you want to read that, uses xterm -ls Jan 11 18:25:45 though not looking forward to making isos :| Jan 11 18:25:47 --> ch0wnz (~adriano@pmn.urbi.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:25:49 hi all Jan 11 18:26:15 oh thanks ;) Jan 11 18:26:33 anyone can help me with PPPoE Servers and Relays ? Jan 11 18:26:52 Have something to do with Slackware? Jan 11 18:27:02 piterpunk: you wouldn't happen to be a gnome fan would you? Jan 11 18:27:35 fred87: Well... no... don't... i like some "gnome" apps, but gnome per si isn't my wm's choice. Jan 11 18:27:47 --- weedz is now known as wietze Jan 11 18:27:49 PiterPunk hey man... Jan 11 18:27:51 :( Jan 11 18:27:53 ;) Jan 11 18:27:57 problem being i cba to compile gnome Jan 11 18:28:57 <-- foureyes778 has quit ("BitchX: not from concentrate") Jan 11 18:29:25 fred87: gnome is all problems... the guys in gnome's project don't like someone compiles all... or maybe they think is good make the things very hard... Jan 11 18:29:32 hello i got a huge problem. my system says each time i boot that /dev/hda4 contains file system with errors and checks . could be bad blocks ? is there a way to skip that 10 mins cheking ? its a 120 gb hdd :( ... Jan 11 18:29:54 its killing me Jan 11 18:30:02 sunbx: e2fsck -y /dev/hda4 Jan 11 18:30:21 daniel__ already did Jan 11 18:30:21 oh ok Jan 11 18:30:21 got some errors , fixed Jan 11 18:30:21 hmm does fredemmott.co.uk resolve for anyone here? Jan 11 18:30:31 but it still checks Jan 11 18:30:48 does dmesg report hda errors Jan 11 18:31:06 i must wait it to come. :) booting Jan 11 18:31:41 i think i will remove that check utility. Jan 11 18:31:52 it will surely skip then :) Jan 11 18:31:53 daniel__ cid ?? Jan 11 18:32:03 yeah i drop cid sometimes Jan 11 18:32:11 --- solsTiCe is now known as gniarl Jan 11 18:32:21 i like shrooms better tho Jan 11 18:32:33 yes ! finally started Jan 11 18:32:35 :) Jan 11 18:32:53 * phrag goes to install his new router Jan 11 18:33:04 ch0nwz: please speak English, dont PRIVMSG me some stuff in some random language i dont know Jan 11 18:33:13 hm... Jan 11 18:33:24 I thought you are another person Jan 11 18:33:24 daniel__ is there a way to grep the ouput of dsmesg to see the hd ? Jan 11 18:33:26 sorry man :) Jan 11 18:33:38 oh ok Jan 11 18:33:42 <-- signal has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 18:33:42 --- gniarl is now known as rougeole Jan 11 18:33:46 hda: 234441648 sectors (120034 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(100) Jan 11 18:33:46 hda: hda1 hda2 hda4 Jan 11 18:33:48 --> signal (~anarky@82.53.18.42) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:33:50 I thought you are Cid, a friend ;) Jan 11 18:33:56 no errors as i can see Jan 11 18:34:00 sunbx: dmesg | grep bleh Jan 11 18:34:01 phrag: nice Jan 11 18:34:08 fred87: back soon =) Jan 11 18:34:26 phrag: i got geforcefx 6800 on order :D Jan 11 18:34:34 still not working Jan 11 18:34:34 sunbx uhh dmesg | grep should work Jan 11 18:34:44 dmesg | grep hda Jan 11 18:34:49 can anybody help me with VMWARE? Jan 11 18:36:48 <-- Lord_Devi has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 11 18:37:09 Someone know about a spell-check plugin for firefox? Jan 11 18:37:51 <-- PiterPunk has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 11 18:37:51 <-- aedigital has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 11 18:37:51 <-- UdontKnow has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 11 18:38:04 no errors Jan 11 18:38:05 Analyzer: can you be more specific? Jan 11 18:38:05 <-- miguelanxo has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 18:38:05 daniel__ do u know PPPoE Server and Relays ? Jan 11 18:38:06 ch0wnz: adsl-setup Jan 11 18:38:06 daniel__ no, about SERVERS. I have 3 PPPoE Servers Jan 11 18:38:06 ohh Jan 11 18:38:06 and what are you trying to do Jan 11 18:38:06 but 1 is getting a lot of connections, and its not equal... 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(SuicidJky@S010600095bfe9d1b.mh.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:38:56 so any ideas what could be the problem with my poor hdd ? Jan 11 18:38:56 :( Jan 11 18:39:03 <-- DuRaZNo has quit ("Abandonando") Jan 11 18:39:13 --> m[a]zzanet (~mazzanet@mazzanet.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:39:18 daniel__ any idea ? Jan 11 18:39:25 well what do they run on Jan 11 18:39:28 <-- taortan has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 11 18:39:28 <-- At0mic_PC has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 11 18:39:28 <-- boerst has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 11 18:39:28 <-- HeatHawk has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 11 18:39:28 <-- JackaLX has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 11 18:39:28 <-- UZY has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 11 18:39:28 <-- seberino has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 11 18:39:28 <-- mo699898 has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 11 18:39:28 <-- Packeteer has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 11 18:39:28 <-- Psirom has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 11 18:39:33 --> p3n (~monkey@217.165.69.228) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:39:36 <-- mazzanet has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 18:39:36 --> seemawn (~zomtec@p50810896.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:39:38 <-- jmr has quit (Connection reset by peer) Jan 11 18:39:46 --> taortan (~taortan@83.145.62.70) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:39:46 --> boerst (~boerst@pD9EA6FD3.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:39:46 --> HeatHawk (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:39:46 --> JackaLX (~steve@JackaLX.project-lead.sxemacs) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:39:46 --> UZY (~jack@200-103-150-114.ctame7041.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:39:46 --> seberino (~seberino@seberino.spawar.navy.mil) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:39:46 --> mo699898 (~mo699898@c66.168.24.174.mad.wi.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:39:46 --> Packeteer (~zed@53.75.233.220.exetel.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:39:46 --> Psirom (~140@203-206-23-102.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:39:50 just pppoe-server Jan 11 18:39:57 <-- solsTiCe has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 18:40:06 sunbx: you have a lot of small files on the partition? Jan 11 18:40:06 see if theres anything in /lost+found Jan 11 18:40:17 --> jmr (~shoop@pppoe-31.rockhill.cetlink.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:40:37 im at usermod, and now im root from console how can view a folder from gnome what must i type to console i want to view folder as root permisions from gnome? Jan 11 18:41:19 --> mmu_man (revol@AToulouse-106-1-5-215.w80-15.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:41:43 :( Jan 11 18:41:52 <-- zomtec has quit ("Naspa- wir können kein Geld, wir können nur billig!") Jan 11 18:42:18 root@central:~# ls /database/lost+found/ Jan 11 18:42:19 #23953439/ #786450 Jan 11 18:42:19 root@central:~# Jan 11 18:42:42 --> solsTiCe (~solsTiCe@d80-170-129-2.cust.tele2.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:42:53 im at usermod, and now im root from console how can view a folder from gnome what must i type to console i want to view folder as root permisions from gnome? Jan 11 18:42:58 --> Drago5 (drago5@TLV62-0-103-139.bb.netvision.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:43:13 <-- Drago5 (drago5@TLV62-0-103-139.bb.netvision.net.il) has left ##slackware ("Client exiting") Jan 11 18:43:15 newbie^ ls Jan 11 18:43:30 i want to view with on desktop Jan 11 18:43:36 with root permisions Jan 11 18:43:48 ls -alsn Jan 11 18:43:53 ls -l Jan 11 18:44:01 is it for console? Jan 11 18:44:02 list Jan 11 18:44:10 yeah Jan 11 18:44:13 anybody can tell me what exacly is in thet lost+found dir ? Jan 11 18:44:16 i want type something to console Jan 11 18:44:24 and i want to view at desktop Jan 11 18:44:26 gnoem Jan 11 18:44:34 with gnome's folder view tool Jan 11 18:44:35 newbie^, i dont understand what you mean Jan 11 18:44:35 ? Jan 11 18:44:50 guys, whats the standard bittorrent client? Jan 11 18:44:56 Azereus Jan 11 18:45:00 Redb3ard, i use btdownloadcurses.py Jan 11 18:45:15 <-- ptlo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 18:45:20 open gnome and click home icon on desktop Jan 11 18:45:29 than it ll view your home folder on gnome Jan 11 18:45:38 and i want to this with root permisions Jan 11 18:45:47 but i opened X with user permisions? Jan 11 18:45:47 newbie^ look for properties icon on gnome viewer Jan 11 18:45:55 nautilius , if I remember Jan 11 18:45:59 yep Jan 11 18:46:02 im getting ready to install postgres, is why Jan 11 18:46:14 ch0wnz, but there must bu a name of that viewer Jan 11 18:46:18 i wanna to learn this Jan 11 18:46:35 when i was root on console forexample gnome-view /home Jan 11 18:46:37 newbie^ learn what ? Jan 11 18:46:38 daniel__ i found some files in lost+found , shalt i remove them ? Jan 11 18:46:49 newbie^, you confuse me Jan 11 18:46:52 you can if you dont need them Jan 11 18:47:05 done Jan 11 18:47:16 but will this stop for checking again ? Jan 11 18:47:22 --> At0mic_PC (1000@216.78.69.58) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:47:22 probably not Jan 11 18:47:49 <-- Cirkit has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 11 18:47:52 ahhhh Jan 11 18:47:55 daniel__ dont u know about PPPoE servers, right ? Jan 11 18:47:59 im getting tired of this. Jan 11 18:48:12 I missing a HOWTO about. Jan 11 18:48:22 portage? Jan 11 18:48:34 ? Jan 11 18:50:54 <-- ^Jenn has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 18:51:08 ch0wnz do you use radius Jan 11 18:51:15 daniel__ yes Jan 11 18:51:20 PPPoE + radius Jan 11 18:51:21 --> Lord_Devi (~ld@S01060010b50e8c16.ss.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:51:28 <-- Silver has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 11 18:51:43 --> dnial (1000@12-220-111-113.client.insightBB.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:51:48 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:51:49 and I have 3 PPPoE Servers, and + - 30 PPPoE-relays that forward the connection to them. Jan 11 18:52:15 --> avoca (~avoca@159-134-144-110.as1.mvw.galway.eircom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:52:22 the problem is: one of them got a lot of connections, more than 70% Jan 11 18:52:44 and many people cant connect because this server is refusing, theres no space Jan 11 18:53:10 while I have 2 servers waiting for, but the first send a aswer Jan 11 18:53:16 so once the first server is full they dont get redirected to the next server? Jan 11 18:53:40 exactly Jan 11 18:54:03 thet dont get redirected because the first server send a reply refusing ! Jan 11 18:54:51 --> turbano (~user@201.13.87.69) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:55:51 <-- turbano (~user@201.13.87.69) has left ##slackware Jan 11 18:56:40 --> ^Jenn (~jenn@jenn-0000002.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:56:53 i would write a script that would redirect them to the next server Jan 11 18:57:01 if the first is refusing Jan 11 18:57:14 --> suid0 (~suid0@200-153-193-147.dsl.telesp.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 18:57:17 how ? Jan 11 18:57:28 pppoe-server dont redirect, I think Jan 11 18:57:34 it just reply to client Jan 11 18:57:41 fred87: about? Jan 11 18:57:47 at sequence: PADI PADO PADR PADS Jan 11 18:58:09 so, the first server reply with PADO more fast than another servers Jan 11 19:00:41 right Jan 11 19:00:59 WOOHOO! all of kde compiled for x86_64 :D Jan 11 19:01:01 * fred87_ rules Jan 11 19:01:09 --> GuBA (~obiwan@208.29.128.59) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:01:16 daniel__ any idea ? Jan 11 19:01:23 fred87: is that iconset of mine still sucking up bandwidth? Jan 11 19:01:24 cause i think the client sends a pppoe broadcast packet and that first server is always the first one to respond Jan 11 19:01:32 stevenr, um yah :P Jan 11 19:01:35 yes Jan 11 19:01:38 daniel__ right man .. Jan 11 19:01:43 hmm Jan 11 19:01:48 but nm, in a few weeks my bandy is going to be hosed... Jan 11 19:02:02 fred87: I'll see if it'll fit in my poxy isp space Jan 11 19:02:02 daniel__ but I have a server that its 64bits, but thet get less connections Jan 11 19:02:19 daniel__ would be fine if it reply fisrt ;) Jan 11 19:02:23 first* Jan 11 19:02:34 but I dont know how :( Jan 11 19:02:35 <-- GuBA (~obiwan@208.29.128.59) has left ##slackware ("http://galeria.gsol.ws") Jan 11 19:02:43 <-- StevenR has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 19:02:50 --> StevenR (~foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:02:51 stevenr, um you have around 5GB/month bandy limit on your isp space? Jan 11 19:02:53 stevenr, um you have around 5GB/month bandy limit on your isp space? Jan 11 19:03:19 fred87_: dunno, I have space. BW is not my prob afaik. :) Jan 11 19:03:28 check your T&C... Jan 11 19:03:33 i think your isp wouldn't like you Jan 11 19:03:58 fred87_: my isp doesn't like me anyway. Jan 11 19:04:19 hmm Jan 11 19:04:29 ch0wnz maybe theres a way you can set it Jan 11 19:04:41 --> lock__ (~lock@200.103.132.121) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:04:55 daniel__ how ? Jan 11 19:04:56 that when the first server is full, instead of refusing connections, it just doesnt reply at all.. so other servers get a chance to reply to the pppoe-broadcast packet Jan 11 19:05:16 instead of the first server replying to it saying refused Jan 11 19:05:28 daniel__ the other servers reply , but too later .. Jan 11 19:05:41 when they reply, the first has refused Jan 11 19:05:49 right Jan 11 19:05:54 but how can I redirect Jan 11 19:05:54 ? Jan 11 19:06:11 --> jmedina (~jmedina@63.70.73.227) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:06:12 any suggestions for a non-us package set? so far i've only thought of xine with dvd support Jan 11 19:06:31 so you can set it so when the server is Full, it just doesnt accept pppoe packets Jan 11 19:06:47 instead of accepting them and refusing them Jan 11 19:06:54 --> althalus (~althalus@c-67-170-176-30.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:07:18 hm... Jan 11 19:07:24 something like Jan 11 19:07:36 if the server is full; kill pppoe-server; else, start it Jan 11 19:07:36 ? Jan 11 19:07:43 --> ryen (~ryen@83.72.184.157.ip.tele2adsl.dk) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:07:49 <-- taortan has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 19:08:29 something like that but you dont wanna kill off all the connected clients Jan 11 19:08:33 <-- seemawn has quit () Jan 11 19:08:37 yes Jan 11 19:08:42 --> seemawn (~zomtec@p50810896.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:08:45 I understood Jan 11 19:09:10 when it gets full just ignore incoming pppoe packets so other servers can reply Jan 11 19:09:16 but I think theres a way ... Jan 11 19:09:45 yes... Jan 11 19:10:18 how can I block the server of reply a PADO ? hehe Jan 11 19:10:37 <-- seemawn has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 19:10:42 --> seemawn (~zomtec@p50810896.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:10:52 probably wouldnt be too hard to edit the source and make that change Jan 11 19:11:12 hm, yess.. Jan 11 19:11:14 maybe Jan 11 19:11:16 <-- seemawn has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 19:11:27 --> seemawn (~zomtec@p50810896.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:11:56 I think theres a explanation for it Jan 11 19:11:59 <-- seemawn has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 19:12:30 --> seemawn (~zomtec@p50810896.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:12:33 why just one machine is replying first ? Jan 11 19:12:36 shit :p Jan 11 19:12:53 --> crazyhors (~dirk@d142-59-169-167.abhsia.telus.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:13:02 probably cause its the closest to the clients Jan 11 19:13:15 takes the least time for the packets to travel Jan 11 19:13:25 <-- slicslak has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 19:13:25 <-- seemawn has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 19:13:29 <-- crazyhors (~dirk@d142-59-169-167.abhsia.telus.net) has left ##slackware Jan 11 19:13:36 --> seemawn (~zomtec@p50810896.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:13:45 --> slicslak (~slicslak@S01060050bf73737f.ed.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:13:54 daniel__: my kernel prob is fixed.. finally works :D Jan 11 19:14:00 <-- slicslak has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 19:14:05 daniel__ no Jan 11 19:14:09 --> slicslak (~slicslak@S01060050bf73737f.ed.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:14:15 daniel__ the 3 servers are at same switch Jan 11 19:14:17 are they all together Jan 11 19:14:20 oh same switch Jan 11 19:14:21 same IP range Jan 11 19:14:31 I think its pppoe-relay Jan 11 19:14:38 that "memorize" it Jan 11 19:17:28 hmm i wonder if it would still go to that same machine if you were to switch MAC addresses around with the second pppoe server Jan 11 19:17:46 quick poll: should i include subversion in my amd64 port? Jan 11 19:18:33 daniel__ switch the MAC address ? Jan 11 19:18:34 <-- Satchmo has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 19:18:48 --> soapman (~James@user-0caldv2.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:18:50 ch0wnz, ifconfig eth0 hwaddr Jan 11 19:19:02 gah ifconfig eth0 hw Jan 11 19:19:04 yaeh just to see if it does anything Jan 11 19:19:31 to be specifc: ifconfig eth0 hw ether aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff Jan 11 19:19:41 I know fred87 ;) Jan 11 19:19:44 --> WizeGuy (wize@ti112220a080-4189.bb.online.no) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:19:48 I´ll see Jan 11 19:19:56 like set the first one to be the second one's mac addy Jan 11 19:20:01 and vice versa w the second one Jan 11 19:20:08 ok Jan 11 19:20:12 let me see Jan 11 19:20:12 <-- soapman (~James@user-0caldv2.cable.mindspring.com) has left ##slackware Jan 11 19:20:20 see if the second server then replies first Jan 11 19:20:44 fred87: i've updated the kde-look page to point to my isp space. Jan 11 19:20:50 thats loads of fun... Jan 11 19:20:59 --> soapman (~James@user-0caldv2.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:21:10 stevenr, good luck :P Jan 11 19:21:26 fred87: we'll see what happens :) Jan 11 19:22:17 I keep getting 'failure notice' from MAILER-DAEMON (qmail server) about every email that is getting bounced back. Where can I change the config so that it doesn't send these notices? Jan 11 19:23:10 <-- At0mic_PC has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 19:23:11 --> ang (~ang@mail.cognitronics.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:23:33 <-- soapman (~James@user-0caldv2.cable.mindspring.com) has left ##slackware Jan 11 19:25:14 --> avocahmm (~avoca@159-134-145-191.as1.mvw.galway.eircom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:25:42 <-- avocahmm has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 19:25:52 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-216-79-252-227.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:27:54 guys, is there a bittorrent that actually works, without me having to jump through hoops? Jan 11 19:28:07 --> avocahmm (~avoca@159-134-145-191.as1.mvw.galway.eircom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:28:11 Hmmm. I wonder if it'd be worth it to upgrade to .10 from .7? Jan 11 19:28:13 i do hav python installed, but bittornado is bitching about something missing Jan 11 19:28:35 Rather, 2.6.10 from 2.6.7 Jan 11 19:29:26 <-- avocahmm has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 19:30:50 <-- newbie^ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 19:31:44 Redb3ard, why don't u use Azureus? Jan 11 19:31:48 --> buzzedlightyear (~buzzedlig@68-116-50-50.or.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:31:49 <-- Tukon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 19:31:53 --> Tukon77 (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:32:50 java Jan 11 19:32:52 haha Jan 11 19:33:03 hello all. Jan 11 19:33:12 doesnt anyone program in real languages anymore? Jan 11 19:33:47 --> soapman (~James@user-0caldv2.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:34:55 Redb3ard, i hate java too Jan 11 19:35:01 bu Azureus rox Jan 11 19:35:05 but Jan 11 19:35:07 <-- soapman (~James@user-0caldv2.cable.mindspring.com) has left ##slackware Jan 11 19:35:11 i want something i can use on a command line Jan 11 19:35:20 bittorrent Jan 11 19:35:26 btdownload-curses.py Jan 11 19:35:46 use the original bittorrent client Jan 11 19:36:16 hell with it Jan 11 19:36:26 was just going to try to download postgres with it Jan 11 19:36:27 daniel__ Jan 11 19:36:37 :) Jan 11 19:36:46 then try another way Jan 11 19:36:49 I didnt change the MAC ... I just change the Concentrator name ...lets see what I get Jan 11 19:36:50 Redb3ard: you could use bittornado on windoz if you prefer ? Jan 11 19:37:00 --> avocahmm (~avoca@159-134-145-72.as1.mvw.galway.eircom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:37:06 Im waiting for the clients Jan 11 19:37:07 :) Jan 11 19:38:08 hmm ok Jan 11 19:38:19 * daniel__ eats a pop tart Jan 11 19:38:44 =p Jan 11 19:39:14 * FriedBob eats a tart. Oh wait, did I say that outloud? Just pretend you didn't here me. Jan 11 19:39:22 s/here/hear/ Jan 11 19:39:50 hauhauha Jan 11 19:40:07 HueaHueaHueaHuea Jan 11 19:40:36 <-- avocahmm has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 19:40:53 No, I'm not a Brit, just seem to spell like one sometimes and like (or at least am amused by) some of the slang. Jan 11 19:45:12 --> maddler (~maddler@195.110.158.19) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:45:25 <-- avoca has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 11 19:46:02 --> avoca (~avoca@159-134-144-200.as1.mvw.galway.eircom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:47:34 --> blackhat_ (1000@217.219.181.79) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:48:35 <-- mastertet has quit ("leaving") Jan 11 19:48:47 --> epic (~epic@220.80-202-211.nextgentel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:54:09 <-- valefor has quit ("tchao tchao") Jan 11 19:55:51 <-- Innoruuk has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 19:56:12 --> shagin (~shagin@adsl-68-20-30-164.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:56:25 --> MrKrystal (~MrKrystal@lns-vlq-44-poi-82-252-130-35.adsl.proxad.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 19:56:29 hi Jan 11 19:58:18 i heard that the maintener of slack was ill Jan 11 19:58:21 is it true ? Jan 11 19:58:58 yes Jan 11 19:59:02 I think he might be on the road to recovery. Jan 11 19:59:29 Umm Jan 11 19:59:33 he's quite better since then Jan 11 19:59:36 good thing Jan 11 19:59:50 They found what the problem was.. medicated him.. and he's back getting things updated Jan 11 19:59:59 specifically -current Jan 11 20:00:04 gearing up towards release of 10.1 Jan 11 20:00:07 10.1!!!!!!!!!!! Jan 11 20:00:21 <-- At0mic_PC has quit ("Client exciting") Jan 11 20:00:56 heh.. the release of 10.1 means that If I upgrade I have to build custom packages over again Jan 11 20:01:04 which isn't an issue Jan 11 20:01:32 it's released ?! Jan 11 20:01:44 no not yet Jan 11 20:01:50 just saying he's gearing up towards it Jan 11 20:02:05 fred87_: that would've been funny though... you be almost done with your x86_64 port then BAM 10.1 comes out Jan 11 20:02:21 <-- shagin_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 20:02:28 fred87_: who won the contest btw? I haven't been to slackwiki.org in a while Jan 11 20:02:28 i'm using -current :P Jan 11 20:02:29 heh Jan 11 20:02:35 * thr1ce is running 10.1 Jan 11 20:02:52 thrice runs mandrake...!! Jan 11 20:02:53 i haven't decided... Jan 11 20:03:03 fred87_, how's 64 coming? Jan 11 20:03:14 10.x ... Is it marketing numbers ? Jan 11 20:03:38 well, isn't 64 bit -current anyways? Jan 11 20:04:08 yah Jan 11 20:04:20 <-- ximpul has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 20:04:22 can you use current packs, or do you have to compile everything by hand? Jan 11 20:04:30 everything :P Jan 11 20:04:37 wow Jan 11 20:04:41 current packs are x86 Jan 11 20:04:46 10.1 sounds great ... like 2003 Jan 11 20:04:46 that'd take some time Jan 11 20:04:49 x86_64 is different architecture :P Jan 11 20:04:56 i prefer -current Jan 11 20:04:56 thr1ce, not that long :) Jan 11 20:04:56 I have a question.. you know how time will time how long it takes foobar to operate? Is there a similair command to that to be able to measure cpu and memory load a program generates during it's short existance or the like? Jan 11 20:05:02 processor is nice Jan 11 20:05:17 pretty quick? Jan 11 20:05:24 thr1ce: all of kde done now :) just a few odds and ends left Jan 11 20:05:25 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 20:05:26 did you go with AMD? Jan 11 20:05:29 then making isos :D Jan 11 20:05:30 yah Jan 11 20:05:33 athlon64 3400+ Jan 11 20:05:40 yeah, that's a sweet chip Jan 11 20:05:52 what kernel? Jan 11 20:05:56 2.6.9 Jan 11 20:05:57 ls Jan 11 20:05:59 gah... Jan 11 20:06:05 lol Jan 11 20:06:12 "problem" apps: apache 1.3, sysklogd Jan 11 20:06:13 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-216-77-193-21.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 20:06:15 apache 2 compiles fine... Jan 11 20:06:26 but want 1.3 Jan 11 20:06:33 and i'm getting tempted to switch loggers Jan 11 20:06:39 why? Jan 11 20:06:50 sysklogd is written extremely non-portably Jan 11 20:08:59 fred87_: hmmm Jan 11 20:09:02 Just read something interesting Jan 11 20:09:07 check this quote out: Jan 11 20:09:22 For what it's worth, I just created iso images of my -current directory (I use rsync to maintain my own copy of -current) and when I booted from disk 1 to install on another box it said "Welcome to Slackware 10.1" Jan 11 20:09:35 yah Jan 11 20:09:37 old news Jan 11 20:09:41 november iirc Jan 11 20:09:48 Dec. Jan 11 20:10:00 yeah, pkgtool is says 10.1 i think Jan 11 20:10:10 gah... Jan 11 20:10:18 i hate sysklogd... Jan 11 20:11:24 There are a lot of ftp sites that have slackware-10.1 ftp repositories already Jan 11 20:11:34 <-- phrag (~phrag@phra.gs) has left ##slackware Jan 11 20:12:03 really...? Jan 11 20:12:07 yeah Jan 11 20:12:09 i haven't seen one yet Jan 11 20:12:12 do a google search for slackware 10.1 Jan 11 20:12:15 <-- xuser (~none@xuser.user) has left ##slackware Jan 11 20:12:36 I think I'm going to have to sync -current and create some isos Jan 11 20:12:56 Dominian, why, so many do it well as it is Jan 11 20:13:00 ananke, for example Jan 11 20:13:10 bah Jan 11 20:13:10 check out his FTP, it's very nice Jan 11 20:13:12 I might use his Jan 11 20:13:23 i have used them twice, and never had a problem Jan 11 20:13:27 but I like to do things myself. Jan 11 20:13:53 i suppos Jan 11 20:14:00 why do once what someone else already has Jan 11 20:14:23 <-- avoca has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 20:15:12 thr1ce, if you're talking about doing things with your gf, that doesn't apply Jan 11 20:15:12 thr1ce: to say that I've done it and I can do it. Jan 11 20:15:17 --> RiverAl (~user@135.247.216.81.nykop.siwnet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 20:15:25 fred87_: you had to type really fast to get that one out lol Jan 11 20:15:40 Did you spill your coffee trying to get to the keyboard fast enough? Jan 11 20:15:50 shh Jan 11 20:16:03 lol Jan 11 20:16:39 hmm Jan 11 20:16:59 Gonna have to find a tutorial on how to create isos out of -current.. I have an idea how he did it, but wanna make sure Jan 11 20:17:03 * fred87_ puts up the "what's your favourite syslogd, other than sysklogd?" sign Jan 11 20:17:15 domian, read the file in isolinux/ Jan 11 20:17:16 <-- ch0wnz has quit ("[BX] This BitchX's for you") Jan 11 20:17:22 Dominian: You could just download the ones ananke makes. Jan 11 20:17:30 lol Jan 11 20:17:33 we've had this discussion Jan 11 20:17:36 At0mic_PC: I could, but then what's the point of having the ability of doing it myself? Jan 11 20:17:42 Dominian: And I think he has a script on it. Jan 11 20:17:47 At0mic_PC: maybe Jan 11 20:17:59 he/she Jan 11 20:18:04 * fred87_ considers using metalog... Jan 11 20:18:18 ananke is a girl in mythology. Jan 11 20:19:17 wow...i think it'll fit on 1 cd w/o gnome Jan 11 20:19:48 Ananke [a-NANG-kee] is the thirteenth known satellite of Jupiter. Ananke and Zeus were the parents of Adrastea. Very little is known about Ananke. Jan 11 20:19:53 --> Flendor (Flendor@195.174.32.147) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 20:19:55 Hello. Jan 11 20:20:02 the big question here is, does 10.1 include Gnome ? Jan 11 20:20:05 hey Flendor Jan 11 20:20:13 Hey thr1ce, how goes? Jan 11 20:20:14 foureyes779, likely not Jan 11 20:20:18 not bad, you? Jan 11 20:20:30 foureyes779: I doubt it will include 2.8. Jan 11 20:20:38 gah can someone quickly tell me what calls rc.syslog? Jan 11 20:20:39 Fine here :) Jan 11 20:20:58 i doubt it will include gnoem at all Jan 11 20:21:02 Gno Gmore Gnome ???? *B0000-H0000* Jan 11 20:21:16 <-- dngr has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 20:21:28 Indeed. Jan 11 20:21:47 Gnome is the greatest thing since GUI and it's being left out. Jan 11 20:22:00 uhm, i was kidding... Jan 11 20:22:14 no, gnome sucks Jan 11 20:22:19 and is impossible to maintain Jan 11 20:22:32 thr1ce: It doesn't suck. Jan 11 20:22:38 TAKE THAT BACK! Jan 11 20:23:47 it sucks. Jan 11 20:23:57 As long as gnome libs are included.. Gnome can die Jan 11 20:24:00 need the libs to run Gaim Jan 11 20:24:09 <-- epic has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 20:24:17 (1) it tries to emulate OOP in C - ugly (2) it's build system is crap (3) KDE is just plain better. Jan 11 20:24:17 <-- havran has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 20:24:21 Jan 11 20:25:16 --> havran (~havran@158.195.102.161) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 20:25:19 thr1ce: and I would build my own isos so that when -current gets updated again.. I don't have to mess with redownloading 700MB iso discs.. I can just create new ones Jan 11 20:25:51 I think when 10.1 gets released.. I will start rsyncing -current and just using it Jan 11 20:25:57 * fred87_ is expecting to produce a fast amount of coasters in next few weeks Jan 11 20:26:07 fred87_: sell 'em on EB Jan 11 20:26:10 hehe Jan 11 20:26:15 ... Jan 11 20:26:33 fluxbox beats kde... Jan 11 20:26:38 fred87_: people will buy anything Jan 11 20:26:41 kde sucks! Jan 11 20:26:50 "collectors edition! Dud pre-release testing disks of an unofficial slackware amd64 port. LIMITED EDITION!" Jan 11 20:26:56 hehe Jan 11 20:26:57 LOL Jan 11 20:27:06 Dominian, yes, -current is nice Jan 11 20:27:14 problem is, prob won't be so limited... Jan 11 20:27:17 that reduces the value... Jan 11 20:27:20 --> smoke_ (~smoke@64.140.93.2) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 20:27:39 thr1ce: only thing is.. I like to build a lot of the upgrade pkgs.. sooo.. if -current updates.. I might have to rebuild certain packages again.. that's the only draw back I see Jan 11 20:27:50 anyone here familiar with the ethereal plugin system? Jan 11 20:28:46 already.. time for me to head home Jan 11 20:28:49 <-- Dominian has quit ("headin' /home") Jan 11 20:29:05 where is the bind conf file? 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Jan 11 20:48:14 i never really liked KDE untill 3.2/3.3. Jan 11 20:48:25 but, i also have 1GB of ram, and a P4 2.6. Jan 11 20:48:32 --> Zerial (zerial@62.175.125.199) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 20:49:03 * Kyle_S nods Jan 11 20:49:29 its ram hungry, and it makes too many threads for a slower/older machine to feel peppy. Jan 11 20:50:29 WOOT! sysklogd working Jan 11 20:50:47 lol Jan 11 20:51:33 number one on converting apps to use 2.6 headers: do *NOT* include , and into the same bloody file... Jan 11 20:51:45 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 20:51:48 * fred87_ breathes in the calm Jan 11 20:51:54 Good night everyone. 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Jan 11 21:05:30 /etc/inttab Jan 11 21:05:34 *inittab Jan 11 21:05:39 <-- p3n has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 21:05:44 <-- fskn (~chino@pcp09995929pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) has left ##slackware Jan 11 21:05:48 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 21:05:57 thank you Jan 11 21:06:01 <-- grey has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 21:06:13 rada: You gonna do like me? I got 24 consoles right now. Jan 11 21:06:22 --> grey (~grey@Sudbury-HSE-ppp3983677.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 21:06:29 Normally run 36, but don't need that many at this point. Jan 11 21:06:30 I got one :-) need one more :-p Jan 11 21:06:58 Heh. Jan 11 21:07:15 "Can't locate API module structure `include_module' in file /usr/libexec/apache/mod_include.so: /usr/libexec/apache/mod_include.so: undefined symbol: include_module" <<< anyone seen that before? Jan 11 21:07:33 <-- feross has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 21:08:10 I should have 2 standard console login regardin inittab. but I cannot switch between them :-( Jan 11 21:08:39 during boot I cannot get login so I wanted to try other console login. Jan 11 21:09:00 --> drt (~Joe@12-222-249-211.client.insightBB.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 21:10:10 but alt+f2 doesn't work Jan 11 21:10:55 rada: chvt ? Jan 11 21:11:15 StevenR what's that? Jan 11 21:11:25 change vt Jan 11 21:11:33 <-- Zerial (zerial@62.175.125.199) has left ##slackware ("Aplicación Saliendo") Jan 11 21:11:39 chvt - change foreground virtual terminal Jan 11 21:11:57 weird Jan 11 21:12:03 rada: it has an ultra cool manpage :) Jan 11 21:12:15 can someone tell me what "objdump -T /usr/libexec/apache/mod_include.so | grep include_module" returns? Jan 11 21:13:39 StevenR I didn't install man :-( but would it solve my problem? I run like last comman in rc.local gnump3d I would expect login after it but no login. Jan 11 21:14:00 life without man would be horrifying Jan 11 21:14:04 rada: you just dont get any vts at all? Jan 11 21:14:23 a stark documentationless hell Jan 11 21:14:28 StevenR what's virtual terminal? Jan 11 21:14:39 rada: What you get when you login. Jan 11 21:14:40 the alt-f2,3,4,5,6 etc Jan 11 21:14:49 StevenR I can ssh to my slack but no console login :-( Jan 11 21:14:49 Slack default's runlevel 3 has 6 started. Jan 11 21:14:51 <-- sdogi_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 21:15:01 StevenR no :-( Jan 11 21:15:11 rada: chvt 2 Jan 11 21:15:14 rada: You've fscked your config files, or have somehow disabled login. Jan 11 21:15:22 <-- Tw33Ty has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 21:15:30 rada: are any agetty running? Jan 11 21:15:47 or mgetty or such. Jan 11 21:16:23 hmm is the apache 1.3 slackbuild broken in -current? Jan 11 21:16:35 s/slackbuild/default httpd.conf/ Jan 11 21:17:07 StevenR ps -aux should show if it's running? Jan 11 21:17:22 ps -A|grep getty is what i would use Jan 11 21:19:07 gah no it's the actual apache default httpd.conf Jan 11 21:19:10 StevenR no, it's not running Jan 11 21:20:44 # These are the standard console login getties in multiuser mode: Jan 11 21:20:44 c1:1235:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty1 linux Jan 11 21:20:53 so it should work, I hope Jan 11 21:21:19 rada: then something in your config is screwed up preventing getty from loading. does /var/log/* show anything? Jan 11 21:22:52 you want me to go through all files in /var/log? Jan 11 21:23:30 no, just syslog and messages....you could use grep :) Jan 11 21:24:56 --> feross (~feross@techdept.boca.prosolutionsinc.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 21:25:06 to search for 'error'? Jan 11 21:25:15 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 21:26:01 --> Outpour (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 21:28:07 <-- PiterPunk has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 11 21:28:27 <-- duardo has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 21:28:40 rada: to search for getty? Jan 11 21:28:59 ehm, sorry. I am still sleepy Jan 11 21:29:10 rada: less the logs and scroll to the end and read + just see what's being said Jan 11 21:29:26 I am doing that :-) Jan 11 21:29:42 anyone familiar with apache [slack]build? Jan 11 21:31:19 /var/log# grep -i getty * Jan 11 21:31:24 showes nothing Jan 11 21:31:45 w000 Jan 11 21:31:59 nothing like going thru RAW data on a HD Jan 11 21:32:06 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 21:32:25 foureyes779: better raw data than cooked data. =) Jan 11 21:32:59 nibbles and bits Jan 11 21:33:00 well this data is Jan 11 21:33:14 --> Configurator (~Configura@10001133711.0000000553.acesso.oni.pt) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 21:33:14 im usig Autopsy Jan 11 21:33:27 but it will only recognize it as raw data Jan 11 21:34:37 it WAS a reiserFS..... Jan 11 21:34:39 <-- FriedBob has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 11 21:35:30 --> memunkey (~wonderdog@12.173.109.47) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 21:36:26 hullo Jan 11 21:36:35 --> MacGuyver (~amaral@200.174.116.166) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 21:36:46 --> scvoz (~scvoz@ppp83-237-195-56.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 21:39:45 --> OutpourDCC (~outpour@72.218.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 21:39:45 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 21:40:20 # Generated by ltmain.sh - GNU libtool 1.5a (1.1240 2003/06/26 06:55:19) Jan 11 21:40:55 <-- Frost^ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 21:41:51 <-- ang (~ang@mail.cognitronics.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 11 21:43:08 --> nalg0rath (~nalg0rath@h201n1fls35o883.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 21:46:02 --> n2iko (n2iko@ool-182c5a59.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 21:46:07 --> p4ch0 (~p4ch0@200.24.110.126) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 21:46:15 <-- Ava3ar has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 21:47:34 --> ptlo (~senko@cmung3275.cmu.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 21:48:41 <-- epic has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 21:48:47 <-- scvoz has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 21:49:20 --> Black_ (1000@a213-22-157-108.netcabo.pt) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 21:49:37 <-- rada (~rada@r3x178.chello.upc.cz) has left ##slackware Jan 11 21:51:43 <-- p4ch0 has quit ("Abandonando") Jan 11 21:52:21 enybody can help me with this f*ckins vmware and LPT port Jan 11 21:52:22 ??? Jan 11 21:52:26 please... Jan 11 21:52:44 fred87_: do you do rss feeds for changelogs? Jan 11 21:53:03 yah Jan 11 21:53:04 --> Ava3ar (~ava3ar@user-1256.l6.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 21:53:09 can't debug anything atm though... Jan 11 21:53:15 fred87_: link to them? Jan 11 21:53:16 server/my connection is seriously screwing up Jan 11 21:53:24 http://fredemmott.co.uk/rss.php Jan 11 21:53:45 <-- dwolf has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 21:53:49 fred87_: not saying they're broken, just wanted to feed them into akregator Jan 11 21:54:21 <-- _kop has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 21:55:16 --> ravigehlot (1000@rrcs-24-227-56-178.se.biz.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 21:55:27 Is there a difference between Ultra DMA and Ultra ATA ? Jan 11 21:56:02 --- MacGuyver is now known as MacGuyver_ Jan 11 21:58:00 --- ravigehlot is now known as logged Jan 11 21:58:22 --> _kop (~trillian@66-109-194-67.nocharge.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 21:59:01 logged: yes. they're completely different things afaik Jan 11 21:59:13 w00t fixed apache Jan 11 21:59:23 stevenr: i think the -current feed is broken Jan 11 21:59:32 changelog too big, the script making feed times out Jan 11 21:59:35 fred87_: yup. Jan 11 22:01:57 --> masakari (~blah@24-119-160-5.cpe.cableone.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:02:07 hmm, Autopsy has no support for reiserFS... Jan 11 22:02:08 i have a problem with my modules Jan 11 22:02:08 BAH Jan 11 22:02:18 <-- Configurator has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 11 22:02:28 problem being that none of them work Jan 11 22:02:31 --> blackpit_ (~blackpit@reverse.cti.gr) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:02:43 the error, as well as some directory listings are at Jan 11 22:02:44 well, at least not in the GUI Jan 11 22:02:52 <-- blackpit has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 22:02:53 http://rafb.net/paste/results/r3VE1w40.html Jan 11 22:03:12 all of my modules have similar problems, not just tulip Jan 11 22:03:19 anyone know what's going on? Jan 11 22:03:56 module versions and kernel version not the same? Jan 11 22:04:08 masakari: run depmod -a Jan 11 22:04:40 no this is after i compiled the 2.4.28 kernel from source Jan 11 22:04:48 <-- TheMuso (~luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au) has left ##slackware Jan 11 22:05:36 masakari: what steps did you take when you compiled the kernel? Jan 11 22:06:34 make menuconfig, make dep, make bzImage, make modules, make modules_install, Jan 11 22:06:59 ok, that's correct Jan 11 22:07:07 masakari: run depmod -a Jan 11 22:07:21 alright, i have to reboot for that. i'll brb Jan 11 22:07:24 --> dario__ (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:07:26 <-- masakari has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 22:07:29 * StevenR goes to get tea Jan 11 22:07:30 hi Jan 11 22:08:02 I have a bit of a problem. I just compiled xorg 6.8.1 (and i compiled all packages), did "make install" and "make install.man" but i don't have an X binary. ? Jan 11 22:08:04 is this possible? 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Jan 11 22:11:24 --> xemon (~zxemon@65.171.164.98) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:11:47 <-- Lurkan has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 22:11:51 <-- fred87_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 22:12:27 --- mathkid is now known as Eric Jan 11 22:13:22 --> masakari (~blah@24-119-160-5.cpe.cableone.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:13:29 ok Jan 11 22:13:42 i ran depmod -a and i got lots and lots of **Unresolved symbol in errors Jan 11 22:13:49 <-- Eric (Eric@1Cust16.tnt1.sylvania.oh.da.uu.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 11 22:14:13 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:14:34 --> Lurkan (~Lurkan@201.135.159.181) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:14:47 <-- ximpul has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 22:16:12 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:16:44 masakari: paste a few to pastebin? Jan 11 22:18:54 --> r00tsh3ll (1000@201.11.161.238) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:19:41 well, i didnt get a paste of it this time, but it looked like all the modules Jan 11 22:19:44 which is confirmed by the fact that when i did lsmod, there were no modules listed Jan 11 22:20:03 <-- madsj (~nospam@cpe.atm2-0-1041101.0x50c513e6.virnxx12.customer.tele.dk) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 11 22:20:26 and the /usr/src/linux symlink is pointing to the right folder Jan 11 22:21:10 i suppose it would help if i even knew what the error messages meant Jan 11 22:21:12 --> c0ld (~c0ld@c-67-167-210-119.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:21:52 and the errors are where is the path of a .o file Jan 11 22:21:53 <-- dario__ (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has left ##slackware Jan 11 22:23:18 masakari: have you tried compinling a new kernel, maybe you're missing something in that config to do with modules? Jan 11 22:23:31 masakari: can you load any modules using modprobe? Jan 11 22:23:38 and for future refrence, how do i redirect the pipes for the mod utils into a file? doing modprobe tulip > error.txt didnt work (blank file) Jan 11 22:23:43 none Jan 11 22:24:28 i have all the loadable kernel module options selected as native for this build already Jan 11 22:25:12 <-- c0ld has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 22:25:20 --> Zarkhalar (1000@68.64.111.211) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:25:27 masakari: comand 2>&1 > file Jan 11 22:25:43 Where is it that you give a kernel serial ata support in the kernel configuration? :/ Jan 11 22:25:45 Can't find it lol Jan 11 22:26:20 Zarkhalar: it's in the scsi low-level options Jan 11 22:26:49 but it has to be >=2.4.27 Jan 11 22:27:05 masakari: eH? Jan 11 22:27:37 StevenR: eH? what? Jan 11 22:27:55 but it has to be >=2.4.27...what do you mean? Jan 11 22:28:04 --> seemawn (~zomtec@p50810896.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:28:08 I don't see it in there :/ Jan 11 22:28:10 This is 2.6.7 Jan 11 22:28:49 it has to be kernel .27 or later, because that's when they merged sata support into the kernel (for production) Jan 11 22:28:58 i dont know about development Jan 11 22:29:29 --> Roa (~wer@dsl-200-95-11-126.prod-infinitum.com.mx) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:30:06 (for stable**) Jan 11 22:30:11 --> simedw (1000@h10n4c1o1043.bredband.skanova.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:30:29 at any rate, any clues as to what is causing my module problem? Jan 11 22:31:09 what is wrong ? When I mount mount /dev/cdrom I get the error "mount: Not a directory" Jan 11 22:31:10 why? Jan 11 22:31:18 masakari: missing some modules? or the compile is broken? where did you get the source Jan 11 22:31:25 simedw: cos mount is not a directory Jan 11 22:31:31 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 defaults 0 0 Jan 11 22:31:44 simedw: what command are you typing? Jan 11 22:32:01 "mount /dev/cdrom" Jan 11 22:32:11 Whats the option called for SATA support? :/ Jan 11 22:32:30 the official page...i dont know the url off hand Jan 11 22:33:10 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4.28.tar.bz2 is the url i used Jan 11 22:33:15 simedw: and do you have a mount point?, ie /mnt/cdrom? are you using ide-scsi? what does ls -l /dev/cdrom give? Jan 11 22:33:17 --> Tw33Ty (~Tw33Ty___@81.10.60.82) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:33:51 masakari: i think there must be something missing in your config. I would try removing the build dir, untarring the bz2 and trying again. Jan 11 22:33:58 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2000-01-01 03:18 /dev/cdrom -> /dev/hdc Jan 11 22:34:13 simedw: and the other 2 questions? Jan 11 22:34:20 ok, i'll try that. i'm going to dl the source from somewhere else to be sure Jan 11 22:34:40 ide, and /mnt/cdrom is the mount point Jan 11 22:35:46 <-- Putz has quit ("Hey, look; a grenade without a pin!") Jan 11 22:35:54 simedw: is the mount point a directory? and are you using ide-scsi, the module? Jan 11 22:36:34 downloading source from http://ftp.cdut.edu.cn/pub/linux/NEW/linux-2.4.28.tar.bz2 Jan 11 22:36:40 Yes, it is a dir, I just recreate it with mkdir Jan 11 22:36:53 <-- memunkey has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 11 22:37:05 ide-scsi is modprobe Jan 11 22:37:22 simedw: ide-scsi is modprobe eh?? meaning what? Jan 11 22:37:43 lsmod gives ide-scsi 9328 0 Jan 11 22:37:50 ahh Jan 11 22:38:02 simedw: grep scsi /etc/lilo.conf Jan 11 22:38:07 <-- Slack_Rox has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 22:38:20 nothing there Jan 11 22:38:25 you DO have a directory /mnt/cdrom, right? Jan 11 22:38:43 yes Jan 11 22:39:22 <-- Black_ has quit ("leaving") Jan 11 22:39:33 --> blaylock (~sfv100@24-49-51-43.chvlva.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:39:34 simedw: is there a data cd in the drive? Jan 11 22:39:41 yes Jan 11 22:39:57 not an audio cd, or an unused cdr, but a known good data cd with data on it Jan 11 22:39:58 ? Jan 11 22:40:37 yes, I have test on a number of cds that should work Jan 11 22:41:04 ok Jan 11 22:41:15 --> Slack_Rox (~Slack_Rox@pcp0010004482pcs.centrl01.va.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:41:19 simedw: rmmod ide-scsi and try mounting again Jan 11 22:41:25 the cd spins up when I try to mount... Jan 11 22:41:39 <-- hell|work has quit () Jan 11 22:41:55 have you tried mounting to a different directory? Jan 11 22:41:56 Does k3b come with slack? Jan 11 22:42:03 slack, you're in central va, and comcast is finally reverse resolving your IP right? Jan 11 22:42:08 are you superuser? Jan 11 22:42:17 im pretty sure mine is still attbi.com Jan 11 22:42:24 rmod didn't help Jan 11 22:42:33 I have tried other dirs Jan 11 22:42:39 --> Zarco (~chatzilla@ip-81-11-129-111.dsl.scarlet.be) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:42:44 hm Jan 11 22:43:04 Straterra: yes, but it's outdated version...i'd get latest source and compile myself if i was you Jan 11 22:43:18 I'm root, Jan 11 22:43:36 StevenR, any idea what package its in? Jan 11 22:43:44 It's not on www.slackware.com/pb Jan 11 22:43:49 Straterra: k3b. it's in /extra Jan 11 22:43:55 not part of official slack Jan 11 22:43:59 extra.. Jan 11 22:43:59 Gaaaaah Jan 11 22:44:01 --> lonewolfx (~lonewolf@pcp915288pcs.brndml01.va.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:45:25 <-- AthlonRob (~rob@65.182.230.24) has left ##slackware ("gotta go do some real work") Jan 11 22:45:33 Hmm Jan 11 22:45:35 what could possible be wrong? Jan 11 22:45:40 I installed the package, yet no k3b binary Jan 11 22:46:04 <-- Polleke has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 22:46:20 Weird. Jan 11 22:46:25 Any ideas, StevenR ? Jan 11 22:46:32 --> web_know1 (~noname@webknows-0001.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:46:36 I install the package..but no executable or anything Jan 11 22:46:44 Straterra: remove it and make your own. Jan 11 22:46:45 Straterra, Should be /opt/kde/bin/k3b Jan 11 22:47:10 Aha Jan 11 22:47:11 It is Jan 11 22:47:19 TY Jan 11 22:47:24 np Jan 11 22:47:28 I heard of a program that can generate good passwords, but actually sound like things you can remember...or the like. Anyone heard of this? Jan 11 22:47:35 Now I go dep hunting! Jan 11 22:47:35 <-- web_knows has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 22:47:46 Straterra: kdebase, kdelibs, arts Jan 11 22:47:51 Yup Jan 11 22:47:52 for starters Jan 11 22:48:01 I just hunt 'em down when the program complains Jan 11 22:48:13 --> tino27 (~tnoe@165.236.205.67) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:48:14 It helps I have a -current mirror on my server Jan 11 22:48:14 :P Jan 11 22:48:25 <-- tino27 has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 22:48:29 simedw: can you do mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom as root? Jan 11 22:48:41 nope Jan 11 22:48:59 simedw: error? Jan 11 22:49:13 --> tino27 (~tnoe@165.236.205.67) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:49:19 mount: Not a directory Jan 11 22:49:19 <-- tino27 has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 11 22:49:23 simedw: does dmesg show your drive as detected and using ide-cd driver? is that compiled into kernel? Jan 11 22:50:35 Lord_Devi: personally I think a better way is to think of a very easy to remember password, can even be a dictionary word. Then use a simple script that will map the alphabet to random letters,numbers, special chars. ie a=$,b=4,c=z etc. Then paste that key somewhere and then just map your easy to know password to that key. Then every few months, recreate a new random key but maintain your easy-to-remember password Jan 11 22:50:50 mcd: initialisation failed - No mcd device at 0x300 irq 11 Jan 11 22:50:50 SJCD: Sanyo CDR-H94A cdrom driver version 1.7. Jan 11 22:50:50 SJCD: Resetting: .......... reset failed, no drive found. Jan 11 22:50:50 Trying to free nonexistent resource <00000340-00000343> Jan 11 22:50:50 cm206 cdrom driver $Revision: 1.5 $ can't find adapter! Jan 11 22:50:50 <-- nixor has kicked simedw from ##slackware (flood) Jan 11 22:51:11 --> simedw (1000@h10n4c1o1043.bredband.skanova.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:51:18 oops Jan 11 22:51:40 SeigeX: it's so much easier to have a program to do that for me though! =) So i don't have to keep coming up with new ones. Jan 11 22:53:38 --> tino27 (~tino27@165.236.205.67) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:53:39 --> turbano (~user@201.13.87.69) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:53:42 Aha Jan 11 22:53:56 Go-go Gadget K3B! Jan 11 22:54:54 --> Sqwidmaster (opera@ACB95BE3.ipt.aol.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 22:54:59 StevenR, Did you get my past ? Jan 11 22:55:05 <-- Sqwidmaster (opera@ACB95BE3.ipt.aol.com) has left ##slackware Jan 11 22:55:43 simedw: use #flood Jan 11 22:56:55 ok, i deleted everything and reconfigured my kernel, now it's running make dep Jan 11 22:57:47 >making bzImage Jan 11 22:58:30 make: *** No rule to make target `love'. Stop. Jan 11 22:58:37 shot down, once again. =) Jan 11 22:58:55 with a phrase like that, who could say no? Jan 11 22:59:20 only a silly, silly woman would deny my GNU tools. Jan 11 23:00:04 <-- Slack_Rox has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 23:00:20 lol Jan 11 23:00:56 --> juhl (~juhl@213.237.34.34.adsl.suoe.worldonline.dk) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:01:51 running make modules Jan 11 23:01:53 --> GuBA_ (~obiwan@208.29.128.59) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:02:11 btw, i ran make mrproper before all this just to make sure Jan 11 23:02:14 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 23:02:29 <-- GuBA_ (~obiwan@208.29.128.59) has left ##slackware ("http://galeria.gsol.ws") Jan 11 23:03:14 --- m[a]zzanet is now known as mazzanet Jan 11 23:03:35 --> DuRaZNo (~angel@200.121.206.21) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:03:42 <-- Analyzer has quit ("Quit") Jan 11 23:05:01 --> okmeufilho (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:05:03 make modules_install is done Jan 11 23:05:28 --> DarkTide_ (~nerd@dialup-4.156.105.45.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:05:46 --> Slack_Rox (~Slack_Rox@pcp0010004482pcs.centrl01.va.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:06:32 --> NeoLaptop (~NeoLaptop@24.177.219.254) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:06:34 masakari: erhaps you'll find this small doc of mine useful: http://www.linuxtux.org/~juhl/2.6-kernel-build.txt Jan 11 23:06:40 s/erhaps/perhaps Jan 11 23:07:50 --> GOD (~xenixgod@19-40.69-92-cpe.cableone.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:07:58 <-- Roa has quit () Jan 11 23:08:22 i'll check it out if this doesnt work Jan 11 23:08:29 --> Analyzer (~Analyzer@ts3-a134.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:08:34 HI Jan 11 23:08:37 IM GOD Jan 11 23:08:38 hello mr juhl how are you? Jan 11 23:08:41 I USE LINUX Jan 11 23:08:50 GOD: OK Jan 11 23:08:51 i thought i killed you Jan 11 23:08:58 Linux is great Jan 11 23:09:01 hi XGizzmo , fine thanks :) Jan 11 23:09:16 I USED TO USE WINDOWS Jan 11 23:09:16 GOD: good for you Jan 11 23:09:24 GOD: ditch the caps lease Jan 11 23:09:31 WINDBLOWZ SUX Jan 11 23:09:31 <-- Zarco has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 23:09:31 *please Jan 11 23:09:31 I HAE WINBLOWZ Jan 11 23:09:33 <-- Tw33Ty has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 23:09:35 heh Jan 11 23:09:53 GOD: STFU, you wannabe. I'm the real God. Jan 11 23:09:56 GOD: quit being annoying Jan 11 23:10:02 Why? Jan 11 23:10:16 DarkTide_: I am going to fuckin' kill you Jan 11 23:10:32 DarkTide_: I nokno what STFU means. Jan 11 23:10:33 yay for ignore. Jan 11 23:10:39 <_56k> im trying to burn a cd, mkisofs -o backup.iso backup/ then cdrecord dev=0,0,0 backup.iso Jan 11 23:10:47 acidkill: You ignored him? Good idea. Jan 11 23:11:00 I use GENTOO Jan 11 23:11:15 GENTOO is GREAT Jan 11 23:11:25 irssi has an ignore alias as ig. ;-) Jan 11 23:11:25 <-- GOD (~xenixgod@19-40.69-92-cpe.cableone.net) has left ##slackware Jan 11 23:11:35 Good riddance. Jan 11 23:11:54 I told him /part will make him operator. ;) Jan 11 23:11:54 <_56k> i didnt like all the screaming :-\ Jan 11 23:11:58 <-- simedw has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 23:12:13 --> GOD (~xenixgod@19-40.69-92-cpe.cableone.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:12:23 WHY was I kicked? Jan 11 23:12:29 --> phrag (~phrag@phra.gs) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:12:38 GOD: you weren't Jan 11 23:12:48 <_56k> GOD, becuase your caps lock button is on Jan 11 23:12:48 GOD: you left yourself Jan 11 23:12:52 No DIDN"T Jan 11 23:12:54 phrag: pm ok? Jan 11 23:12:56 cause we're trying to get shit done, god Jan 11 23:12:56 just ignore the fool! Jan 11 23:12:58 I typed /part for ops Jan 11 23:13:03 <-- GOD (~xenixgod@19-40.69-92-cpe.cableone.net) has left ##slackware Jan 11 23:13:04 I want @ Jan 11 23:13:05 Jan 11 23:13:12 GOD: go read a irc howto - please Jan 11 23:13:13 <-- AcidChild has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 23:13:15 Okay, so your problem is that you're congenitally stupid then. Jan 11 23:13:19 OK Jan 11 23:13:26 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to phrag Jan 11 23:13:28 --- phrag sets mode +q ##slackware GOD!*@* Jan 11 23:13:31 hi phrag Jan 11 23:13:36 <-- GOD (~xenixgod@19-40.69-92-cpe.cableone.net) has left ##slackware Jan 11 23:13:37 phrag: need to talk to you Jan 11 23:13:39 <-- DuRaZNo has quit ("leaving") Jan 11 23:13:46 --- phrag sets mode +q ##slackware GOD!*@* Jan 11 23:13:48 --- phrag removes channel operator status from phrag Jan 11 23:13:52 hi all Jan 11 23:13:55 hi juhl =) Jan 11 23:13:59 how are you mate Jan 11 23:14:00 =) Jan 11 23:14:01 hi unixfool Jan 11 23:14:03 how d unixfool Jan 11 23:14:03 long time, no see Jan 11 23:14:06 hey everyone Jan 11 23:14:06 juhl: just saw your msg Jan 11 23:14:07 phrag: pretty good Jan 11 23:14:07 phrag: Thanks. Jan 11 23:14:08 just got new router Jan 11 23:14:10 hi unixfool =) Jan 11 23:14:11 ok, copied arch/i386/boot/bzImage to my boot folder Jan 11 23:14:12 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:14:16 phrag: indeed, I've had things to do Jan 11 23:14:17 rebooting... Jan 11 23:14:18 phrag: linksys blueness? Jan 11 23:14:22 phrag: that linksys dsl you posted the other day? Jan 11 23:14:22 Woah...WTF Jan 11 23:14:25 <-- masakari has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 23:14:28 yes, having trouble Jan 11 23:14:29 phrag: i was getting worried bout you Jan 11 23:14:32 router was no problem Jan 11 23:14:35 unixfool: hi there.. yeah, I was just wondering Jan 11 23:14:40 i am on old modem now Jan 11 23:14:41 I have a 3mbit cable line and I am downloading a file at 550KB/s Jan 11 23:14:55 How is that possible? Jan 11 23:14:58 Straterra: upgrade. ;-) Jan 11 23:15:07 build 2.4.28 and setup local np, however adsl modem part is giving me trouble Jan 11 23:15:09 acidkill, Think so? Jan 11 23:15:19 * phrag heads back to google Jan 11 23:15:22 * unixfool is all alone in the staff channel...boohoo Jan 11 23:15:32 phrag, hey Jan 11 23:15:32 if it is staying at that, yea. sometimes it starts really fast, and then levels off to a normal value. Jan 11 23:15:41 acidkill, its staying around 550 Jan 11 23:15:47 560 now Jan 11 23:15:48 :P Jan 11 23:15:55 nice, you got the upgrade it seems. Jan 11 23:16:00 Niiice Jan 11 23:16:07 hi XGizzmo, everyone else by the way =) Jan 11 23:16:09 --> Roa (~wer@dsl-200-95-11-126.prod-infinitum.com.mx) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:16:10 5mbit. =) Jan 11 23:16:12 Maybe that was why my service was crapping out? Jan 11 23:16:14 phrag, are the things going? Jan 11 23:16:21 could be. Jan 11 23:16:27 erm, things ? Jan 11 23:16:32 * acidkill out to dinner. =) Jan 11 23:16:57 how is going phrag ? Jan 11 23:17:12 <-- Zarkhalar has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 23:17:18 not too bad, having modem trouble at the moment =/ Jan 11 23:17:25 <-- okmeufilho has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 23:17:31 phrag, welcome to my shoes Jan 11 23:17:56 --> okmeufilho (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:18:42 --> spb (~stephen@spb.developer.gentoo) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:19:00 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:19:12 <-- feross has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 23:19:13 phrag: which linksys box are we talking about? Jan 11 23:20:05 <-- Slack_Rox has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 23:20:06 Linksys ADSL Gatewat Modem/Router/4-port Switch/Wireless Jan 11 23:20:35 http://www.linksys.com/international/product.asp?coid=6&ipid=181 Jan 11 23:21:03 <-- spb (~stephen@spb.developer.gentoo) has left ##slackware Jan 11 23:21:18 phrag: you useing the internel linksys modem? Jan 11 23:21:39 --> simedw (1000@h10n4c1o1043.bredband.skanova.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:21:43 no Jan 11 23:21:54 Hi, and it doesn't work (still) Jan 11 23:22:09 phrag: y not? Jan 11 23:22:09 but I' sure that it's a Samsung now Jan 11 23:22:29 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to juhl Jan 11 23:22:34 simedw: so why is it loading the other driver? paste the output of demesg to a pastebin pls Jan 11 23:22:35 yes! Jan 11 23:22:42 StevenR: how do you mean ? Jan 11 23:23:00 <-- ximpul has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 11 23:23:07 phrag: are you using the router's modem or the old one you had? Jan 11 23:23:14 sorry, at the moment my old Jan 11 23:23:23 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:23:34 phrag: ahh Jan 11 23:24:04 --- juhl gives voice to juhl Jan 11 23:24:09 --- juhl removes channel operator status from juhl Jan 11 23:24:29 http://rafb.net/paste/results/Z6ln4i53.html Jan 11 23:24:30 --> jmedina (~jmedina@63.70.73.227) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:24:32 hey there juhl Jan 11 23:24:36 hi Squall` Jan 11 23:24:45 simedw: reading.... Jan 11 23:25:48 --> Slack_Rox (~Slack_Rox@pcp0010004482pcs.centrl01.va.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:26:01 simedw: reading too.. ;) Jan 11 23:26:27 <-- Squall` has quit (Client Quit) Jan 11 23:26:28 simedw: can you do the output of lsmod too, and what error does mount give? Jan 11 23:26:48 damn Jan 11 23:26:59 does anybody here use aMSN with Fluxbox current??!!? Jan 11 23:27:12 http://rafb.net/paste/results/C16wch22.html Jan 11 23:27:25 sometimes when I am using aMSN a message appers from nothing and copy that message several times Jan 11 23:27:35 when I close that window X simply exits Jan 11 23:27:39 what hell is this? Jan 11 23:28:27 a bug? Jan 11 23:28:32 :p Jan 11 23:28:36 <-- UdontKnow has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 23:28:38 http://rafb.net/paste/results/C16wch22.html Jan 11 23:28:45 --> UdontKnow (udontknow@udontknow.staff.freenode) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:28:55 is there a pasing limit @ rafb.net? lol Jan 11 23:29:00 pasting Jan 11 23:29:49 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:29:50 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 11 23:30:22 okmeufilho, i'm god of hell fire and i bring u... Jan 11 23:30:50 \* die krupps *\ Jan 11 23:30:59 <-- ximpul has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 23:33:07 <-- Catcher has quit (Success) Jan 11 23:33:17 <-- tino27 has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 23:33:37 --> C-16 (~XXX@81.193.171.215) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:35:16 simedw: rmmod sbpcd and try mounting again Jan 11 23:35:31 --> specialsauce (~captainho@ip68-104-201-117.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:36:20 <-- Slack_Rox has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 23:36:54 <-- UdontKnow has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 23:36:57 <-- ptlo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 23:37:02 Analyzer, I DONT WANNA LIVE MY LIFE AGAIN! Jan 11 23:37:04 <-- seemawn has quit (Connection reset by peer) Jan 11 23:37:17 --> UdontKnow (udontknow@udontknow.staff.freenode) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:37:37 udk hows it going? Jan 11 23:39:17 okmeufilho, why? your life is so bad? Jan 11 23:39:32 <-- dnial has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 23:40:01 XGizzmo, what is udk? Jan 11 23:40:10 sbpcd isn't probe Jan 11 23:40:19 udk == UdontKnow Jan 11 23:41:05 Analyzer, no it is a music Jan 11 23:41:17 Pet Cemetery Jan 11 23:42:06 okmeufilho, understand:) Jan 11 23:42:15 <-- phrag (~phrag@phra.gs) has left ##slackware Jan 11 23:42:38 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 23:42:48 --> Slack_Rox (~Slack_Rox@pcp0010004482pcs.centrl01.va.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:44:38 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:44:48 My first attempt at cd burning in Slack.. Jan 11 23:45:29 * Straterra crosses fingers and hopes it doesn't buffer overrun Jan 11 23:46:02 DOWN SO LONDON TOWN Jan 11 23:46:07 I am rock and roll fun!! Jan 11 23:46:12 ... Jan 11 23:46:16 I am rock and roll fan Jan 11 23:46:18 ahhahaha Jan 11 23:46:48 okmeufilho, we see Jan 11 23:47:22 Straterra: you mean underrun I assume... ;) Jan 11 23:47:24 and sultans of SWING Jan 11 23:47:30 juhl, same difference. :P Jan 11 23:47:32 hmmm Jan 11 23:47:47 I don't want a coaster.. Jan 11 23:47:49 Straterra: not quite Jan 11 23:48:03 Slow burner..8x Jan 11 23:48:12 ide or scsi ? Jan 11 23:48:16 IDE Jan 11 23:48:19 k Jan 11 23:48:31 I don't own a single machine with SCSI capabilities Jan 11 23:48:35 same ide chan as hd or ? Jan 11 23:48:47 juhl, as a hard drive, yes Jan 11 23:48:49 But not the main one Jan 11 23:48:54 do they still even make SCSI CD drives Jan 11 23:48:58 a spare, mostly unused one Jan 11 23:49:01 daniel__, yes Jan 11 23:49:02 daniel__: indeed they do Jan 11 23:49:22 juhl, can I buy a SCSI PCI card? Jan 11 23:49:25 daniel__: I've got a plextor right here purchased 2 years ago, and they still make new drives to this day Jan 11 23:49:36 Straterra: of course you can Jan 11 23:49:50 lifes too short for ide ;) Jan 11 23:49:55 Are they expensive? Jan 11 23:50:07 Cause I would need to buy SCSI drives too.. Jan 11 23:50:10 <-- Slack_Rox has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 11 23:50:23 Straterra: 2 yrs back when I bought this lextor drive it cost ~2.5 times an equivalent ide drive Jan 11 23:50:28 buy scsi driveRs? ;) Jan 11 23:50:28 --> nomasteryoda (~nomastery@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:50:30 *plextor Jan 11 23:50:41 Straterra: I don't know what they cost today Jan 11 23:50:41 juhl, so..SCSI is more expensive? Jan 11 23:50:44 <-- simedw has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 23:50:50 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 11 23:50:51 --- MacGuyver_ is now known as MacGuyver Jan 11 23:51:26 I have only one machine with 1 SCSI connector: my SPARCStation 4 :) Jan 11 23:51:29 Straterra: yes, scsi CD/DVD/HDISK drives are more exensive, and the controller costs as well, but, what you get for that extra cost is performance, durability and stability Jan 11 23:55:49 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:56:13 --> W|GG-Laptop (~deez@ip68-98-179-238.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 11 23:56:14 Alright..CD burn completed without any problems Jan 11 23:57:35 Straterra: yes, scsi CD/DVD/HDISK drives are more exensive, and the controller costs as well, but, what you get for that extra cost is performance, durability and stability Jan 11 23:57:45 where'd phrag go? Jan 11 23:58:01 So..do SCSI harddrives typically have a longer life than IDE? Jan 11 23:58:58 Straterra: the way I see it SCSI's not really more exensive seen over a coule of years since my system is faster (so I get more work done), my drives die less often (so I spend less on replacements), so over time they really haven't cost me that much more than scsi devices Jan 11 23:59:22 *than ide devices I mean Jan 12 00:00:16 Straterra: with a heavy load my exerience is definately that IDE drives die a lot more often than good quality scsi drives... on light desktop load well, the difference is less... Jan 12 00:00:33 juhl, hmmm Jan 12 00:00:39 Anyone here use iptables + nat + port forwarding? Jan 12 00:00:57 Straterra: me Jan 12 00:01:01 juhl: a good controller is what hurts the pocket book. Jan 12 00:01:08 StevenR, can I see the line you use for port forwarding? Jan 12 00:01:14 Straterra: there's no arguing with the speed of a raid 0+1 of 14 Ultra320 15K RPM scsi drives ;) (I have that for one of our db servers at work) Jan 12 00:01:29 juhl..can't you do raid on IDE? Jan 12 00:01:37 Straterra: it's all in one of the files in /etc/rc.d pat wrote them...I just uncommented them Jan 12 00:01:37 and man does it kick ass Jan 12 00:01:41 Straterra: you can Jan 12 00:02:29 StevenR, what script? Jan 12 00:02:58 rc.modules Jan 12 00:03:59 Doesn't have a forward line Jan 12 00:04:11 # # by default, nothing is forwarded. Jan 12 00:04:51 # iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $EXTERNAL -j MASQUERADE Jan 12 00:05:01 # iptables -A FORWARD -i $EXTERNAL -o $INTERNAL -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT Jan 12 00:05:02 That is NAT, not forwarding Jan 12 00:05:17 That just accept data from a established connection Jan 12 00:05:21 --> ohoh (gentooohoh@Toronto-HSE-ppp3669474.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:05:33 Straterra: well I use 2/3 then Jan 12 00:05:34 * Squall` kills ohoh Jan 12 00:05:35 --> frogger_ (~frogger_@roc-66-67-58-171.rochester.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:05:38 Oh.. Jan 12 00:05:38 /etc/rc.d/rc.ip_forward Jan 12 00:05:41 lg is lucky goldstar, a korean maker well-known for the cheapeast crap there is. Jan 12 00:05:58 Jan 12 00:06:02 XGizzmo, it doesn't have a iptables line to forward to an IP Jan 12 00:06:08 <-- okmeufilho has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 00:06:26 if i always bought top of the line stuff, i'd be broke ten times over Jan 12 00:06:40 lg has been trying to appeal to the young, spontaneous, and influential market that has no memory of the lucky goldstar brands. Jan 12 00:07:00 ohoh, WTF Are you talking about? Jan 12 00:07:05 W|GG-Laptop: i have to wait till its outdated before i can afford to buy it. Jan 12 00:07:12 ouch Jan 12 00:07:27 occasionally, i'll buy high end stuff Jan 12 00:07:35 mostly its middle brand Jan 12 00:07:45 occassionally its cheap stuff...as long as it works Jan 12 00:07:53 buy sony japan electronics. Jan 12 00:08:00 very well priced. Jan 12 00:08:11 Straterra: but, try and compare some day. Compare peak (burst) transfer rates, sustained transfer rates, seek times, command queue depth, amount of cache on the drives, nr of devices pr controler, MTTF, and generally the various performance enhancing features of the drives etc etc Jan 12 00:08:17 i try and stay away from cheap brands unless it is highly rated Jan 12 00:08:38 --> Squall`` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:08:50 juhl, my WD 8MB cache 7200RPM 120GB HDD works fine enough Jan 12 00:09:02 --> okmeufilho (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:09:12 i forgot how to release a nick Jan 12 00:09:14 can someone help? Jan 12 00:09:19 the last time i bought goldstar, it was a vcr for the kids...served its purpose Jan 12 00:09:33 Squall`, /help nickserv? Jan 12 00:09:35 SCSI owns in sustained transfer rates Jan 12 00:09:52 Straterra: I'm sure it does.. but just for fun, try and compare a high-end scsi drive of today with a high end ide drive of today Jan 12 00:09:55 yeah, my main box is all scsi Jan 12 00:10:35 <-- [Granger] has quit () Jan 12 00:10:36 <-- Squall` has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 12 00:10:57 XGizzmo: you can say that again. Jan 12 00:10:59 juhl ata uses scsi commands does it not? Jan 12 00:10:59 --- Squall`` is now known as Squall` Jan 12 00:11:38 SCSI beats the pants off ide in sustained transfer rates Jan 12 00:12:50 Xgates: SATA doesn't use the same command set, it uses a smaller command set that doesn't map 100% to scsi - there are some equivalent commands though Jan 12 00:13:12 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 00:13:20 --> bri|zor-nix (~poweruser@pcp08364797pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:13:37 hi poweruser Jan 12 00:13:40 hehe Jan 12 00:13:53 XGizzmo: here's one document on that topic : http://www.snwonline.com/evaluate/translating_06-21-04.asp?article_id=413 Jan 12 00:14:06 --- Tukon77 is now known as Tukon Jan 12 00:14:08 low on detail though Jan 12 00:14:14 but gives a very rough overview Jan 12 00:14:56 <-- adjacent has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 00:15:02 <-- thr1ce has quit ("BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") Jan 12 00:15:15 <-- Tukon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 00:15:18 dayam Jan 12 00:15:27 http://homepage.mac.com/demark/tsunami/2.html Jan 12 00:16:08 <-- specialsauce has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 00:16:16 <^Jenn> fa la la la la Jan 12 00:16:17 <-- MrKrystal has quit ("bye.") Jan 12 00:16:33 hey look! it's ^Jenn Jan 12 00:16:43 <^Jenn> WHERE!?!?! Jan 12 00:16:50 sup jennaye (forrest gump voice) Jan 12 00:16:50 <-- dngr has quit (Connection reset by peer) Jan 12 00:16:51 um... nowhere, i lied Jan 12 00:17:25 <^Jenn> nadda cookin dinner Jan 12 00:17:33 i want some, ^Jenn Jan 12 00:17:36 my parents don't feed me Jan 12 00:17:38 <^Jenn> i got the munchies (lol) Jan 12 00:17:46 whatcha makin'? Jan 12 00:17:58 mj brownies, sounds like Jan 12 00:18:00 <^Jenn> a fish stick and sghetti lol Jan 12 00:18:12 1 fishstick? Jan 12 00:18:13 lol Jan 12 00:18:27 <^Jenn> i havent gone grocery shoppin since b4 christmas im basically combining only thing left lol Jan 12 00:18:31 that was like that chris rock piece..."i want ONE rib" Jan 12 00:18:34 <^Jenn> yea 1 fish stick lol Jan 12 00:18:49 <^Jenn> no brownies Jan 12 00:18:50 <^Jenn> i wish Jan 12 00:19:02 <^Jenn> i had a lil smoke 15 minutes b4 i left work tho lol Jan 12 00:19:06 * Squall` bakes brownies for ##slackware Jan 12 00:19:21 <^Jenn> id hurt for chocolate right now Jan 12 00:19:29 ^Jenn, you don't get any :P Jan 12 00:19:39 <^Jenn> :*( Jan 12 00:19:56 you said you weren't there... so i guess i'll have to give an extra to W|GG-Laptop Jan 12 00:19:57 <^Jenn> i dont like you any more Jan 12 00:20:09 hahahahahahaha Jan 12 00:20:12 ^Jenn, whoa! i wasn't aware you ever liked me in the first place! Jan 12 00:20:14 Jan 12 00:20:18 ^Jenn: you ever did like Squall` ? Jan 12 00:20:27 <^Jenn> yea Jan 12 00:20:30 <-- s0ulslack (soul@usr-if-71.rmci.net) has left ##slackware Jan 12 00:20:30 :( Jan 12 00:20:36 <^Jenn> if i didnt i wouldnt tease him so much Jan 12 00:20:42 wtf? Jan 12 00:20:51 i thought you teased me because you DIDN'T like me Jan 12 00:20:54 <^Jenn> i wouldnt waste that much energy on someone i didnt like Jan 12 00:20:58 when girls tease, that usually means they like Jan 12 00:20:58 <^Jenn> why waste the time Jan 12 00:20:59 hahahaha Jan 12 00:21:01 well, i'm honored Jan 12 00:21:04 i think Jan 12 00:21:08 you should be Jan 12 00:21:28 <^Jenn> if i didnt like ya id call ya all kindsa names id get banned for Jan 12 00:21:46 <^Jenn> now NeoLaptop on the other hand...he can lick a big donkey gonad for all i care Jan 12 00:21:56 :X Jan 12 00:22:10 rocky mountain oysters Jan 12 00:22:12 <^Jenn> =) Jan 12 00:22:40 <-- havran has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 00:22:44 <^Jenn> buhbye gotta watch the simpsons while i still have a bit of my buzz left lol Jan 12 00:23:00 go on and eat yer fishstick Jan 12 00:23:01 lol Jan 12 00:23:05 <-- Analyzer has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 12 00:23:07 <^Jenn> oh yea! Jan 12 00:23:13 --> havran (~havran@158.195.102.161) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:23:13 <^Jenn> bbl maybe if yer lucky! Jan 12 00:23:15 who cooks a single fishstick? Jan 12 00:23:16 <^Jenn> :p Jan 12 00:23:33 --> dngr (~dngr@dsl-200-67-143-98.prod-empresarial.com.mx) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:23:36 people who wait until the last minute to shop do Jan 12 00:23:38 hehe Jan 12 00:23:41 <^Jenn> a person who only has 11 fish stick Jan 12 00:23:46 <^Jenn> ops 1 Jan 12 00:23:55 you lied!! Jan 12 00:24:01 trying to keep them to yourself Jan 12 00:24:05 <-- raindog has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 00:24:07 what happened to your fish sticks? did someone steal them? :( Jan 12 00:24:12 <^Jenn> trust me if there was more id make 3 Jan 12 00:24:13 <^Jenn> lol Jan 12 00:24:14 i'll catch the thief Jan 12 00:24:23 <_56k> ^Jenn, i have 2 i could loan you Jan 12 00:24:31 <^Jenn> lol dcc em over Jan 12 00:24:40 two FISH sticks, man Jan 12 00:24:42 <^Jenn> bbl..shh quit talkin to me damnit Jan 12 00:24:50 <_56k> im rollin in the fish sticks Jan 12 00:24:55 um.... bye ^Jenn Jan 12 00:25:17 * W|GG-Laptop swipes the fish stick and slips it to the neighbor's dog Jan 12 00:25:24 :X Jan 12 00:25:38 --> Kurt (kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:25:52 --- nixor removes ban on *!~root@* Jan 12 00:26:16 Squall`: talking about fish: It is not a good omen when goldfish commit suicide. 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Jan 12 00:26:32 lol, @ Fortune in Linux :L) Jan 12 00:26:34 :) Jan 12 00:26:36 you peple are freaks :X Jan 12 00:26:38 <_56k> it means its going to rain tomorrow Jan 12 00:26:41 err people Jan 12 00:27:25 i confess Jan 12 00:27:27 im a freak Jan 12 00:27:34 <-- turbano has quit ("...mais tem o que não pode os mano, é doutro lado mais é é pela orde vamo dá mó mamão só catá demorou, ó só, ti pus na fita q) Jan 12 00:27:53 <-- okmeufilho has quit ("Fui embora") Jan 12 00:28:03 --> okmeufilho (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:28:26 --- felipe is now known as SlackOwnz Jan 12 00:28:28 <_56k> im not a freak Jan 12 00:28:33 <_56k> :) Jan 12 00:28:34 --> mortal_ (~mortal@adsl-221-220-247.mgm.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:28:37 lg has been trying to appeal to the young, spontaneous, and impressible market that has no memory of the lucky goldstar brands. Jan 12 00:28:49 ohoh, wtf are you talking about? Jan 12 00:29:02 <_56k> lucky goldstar Jan 12 00:29:03 lg is lucky goldstar, a korean maker well-known for the cheapeast crap there is. Jan 12 00:29:05 does anyone know if there's a .torrent for the linux kernel 2.6.10? Jan 12 00:29:09 <_56k> hahaha Jan 12 00:29:21 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to W|GG-Laptop Jan 12 00:29:22 they changed the name to "life's good" to make you forget. Jan 12 00:29:27 man, really, wtf are you talking about? Jan 12 00:29:47 <-- W|GG-Laptop has kicked ohoh from ##slackware (please stop trolling) Jan 12 00:29:52 <_56k> look at the php mirror in japan Jan 12 00:29:53 --> ohoh (gentooohoh@Toronto-HSE-ppp3669474.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:29:57 <_56k> "happy size, inc" Jan 12 00:29:59 <_56k> ha ha ha Jan 12 00:30:02 I say again, does anyone have a .torrent for 2.6.10? Jan 12 00:30:03 ohoh, you finished? Jan 12 00:30:15 mortal_, go to kernel.org and dl it Jan 12 00:31:16 smps, i know i was going to, but I thought perhaps it it'd be nicer of me to check for a .torrent Jan 12 00:31:29 oh well Jan 12 00:31:34 mortal_, whats difference ? Jan 12 00:31:45 <-- ankleteeth has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 00:32:30 smps, well, just that I'd be helping with my bandwith instead of just taking from kernel.org Jan 12 00:32:39 no biggie Jan 12 00:32:49 ok Jan 12 00:33:13 anyone seen the minimac? Jan 12 00:33:24 --> raindog (~raindog@dervish.library.oregonstate.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:33:32 that's quite possibly the coolest piece of hardware I've seen in a while Jan 12 00:33:38 --> smoke_ (~smoke@64.140.93.2) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:33:53 mortal_, do you have link ? Jan 12 00:34:19 <-- smoke_ (~smoke@64.140.93.2) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 00:34:24 --> smoke_ (~smoke@64.140.93.2) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:34:38 --> thr1ce (Andrew@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:34:51 <-- C-16 has quit ("caput") Jan 12 00:35:17 --- W|GG-Laptop sets ban on *!*gentoooh*@*.sympatico.ca Jan 12 00:35:18 <-- W|GG-Laptop has kicked ohoh from ##slackware (W|GG-Laptop) Jan 12 00:35:26 since he won't respond Jan 12 00:35:29 --- ChanServ removes channel operator status from W|GG-Laptop Jan 12 00:35:38 W|GG-Laptop, he has a dumb name, it's safe to assume he sucks Jan 12 00:37:46 <-- _kop has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 00:37:57 --> _kop_ (~trillian@66-109-194-67.nocharge.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:38:11 <-- mmu_man has quit ("Vision[0.9.6-0203]: i've been blurred!") Jan 12 00:39:49 --> [Granger] (Ecto@c-265f70d5.033-47-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:42:17 --> lockige (~rob@client-82-14-71-73.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:42:24 --> wallison (~wallison@cpe-024-211-066-095.sc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:42:56 --> Slack_Rox (~Slack_Rox@pcp0010004482pcs.centrl01.va.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:43:18 <-- wallison (~wallison@cpe-024-211-066-095.sc.rr.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 00:43:27 --> wallison (~wallison@cpe-024-211-066-095.sc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:44:03 --> sergei (~sergei@client-82-14-71-73.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:44:07 <-- Lord_Devi has quit ("brb") Jan 12 00:44:24 <-- lockige (~rob@client-82-14-71-73.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 00:45:03 <-- sergei (~sergei@client-82-14-71-73.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 00:45:37 i just installed a fresh copy of slack 10 and from the ssh client that comes with it, to any other newer one I compile and install I get this error when trying to ssh somewhere; Disconnected; authentication cancelled by user Jan 12 00:46:00 bsdevious, what kernel do you use ? Jan 12 00:46:09 just compiled 2.6.10 Jan 12 00:46:42 bsdevious, edit /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules Jan 12 00:47:01 --> Blade_Run (~ecc@67-42-131-111.albq.qwest.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:47:02 bsdevious, and find this line KERNEL="tty[p-za-e][0-9a-f]*", NAME="tty/s%n", SYMLINK="%k" Jan 12 00:47:06 <-- okmeufilho has quit ("Fui embora") Jan 12 00:47:11 <-- wallison has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 00:47:11 how do i turn on services? Jan 12 00:47:27 Blade_Run: define "services" Jan 12 00:47:37 bsdevious, and change that line with this : KERNEL="tty[p-za-e][0-9a-f]*", NAME="pty/s%n", SYMLINK="%k" Jan 12 00:47:37 smps: got it Jan 12 00:48:29 juhl like the pcmcia card manager and apache and other services Jan 12 00:48:53 look in /etc/rc.d Jan 12 00:49:00 smps: how is that line differ from the first one ? Jan 12 00:49:01 Blade_Run: just chmod 700 the files in /etc/rc.d for the services you wish to run Jan 12 00:49:08 how does even Jan 12 00:49:20 oh Jan 12 00:49:21 Blade_Run: if you mean stuff that runs from inetd, then edit /etc/inetd.conf , then send SIGHUP to inetd, if you mean other apps that start at boot, then make the script that start the app executable in /etc/rc.d/ and /etc/rc.d/rc.M will run it - if the app has no scrit in /etc/rc.d/ then either make a script (look at the current ones for examples) and insert it in rc.M or just add your custom stuff to /etc/rc.d/rc.local (which runs as the last init script)... Jan 12 00:49:21 pty tty Jan 12 00:49:23 yeah but there is a tool to select or deselect Jan 12 00:49:27 bsdevious, yes Jan 12 00:49:32 Blade_Run: dont change perms on the non service ones, eg rc.M,rc.4 etc Jan 12 00:49:52 Blade_Run: no tool, this is slackware - you are the human, you know what to do, you edit the config files (or write new ones) Jan 12 00:50:06 juhl there is a tool Jan 12 00:50:08 still no go Jan 12 00:50:13 Blade_Run: slackware does not hold your hand, it expects you to know what you are doing Jan 12 00:50:20 bsdevious, you have to reboot or restart udevd Jan 12 00:50:28 bsdevious, and open new conlose Jan 12 00:50:29 <-- ataxic has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 12 00:50:32 juhl i have been using slackware for a long time Jan 12 00:50:32 ok Jan 12 00:50:37 Blade_Run: well, there are some scripts, but generally speaking you edit the files by hand Jan 12 00:50:54 Blade_Run : if you have indeed been using slackware for a long time, then wtf are you here asking this basic question? Jan 12 00:51:05 why was this needed to be done ? something to do with 2.6.10 ? Jan 12 00:51:17 anake shut the fuck up Jan 12 00:51:27 Blade_Run : ahh, i see how dumb you are Jan 12 00:51:37 Blade_Run, shut your face, and don't trashtalk the regs Jan 12 00:51:43 ananke, no you don't Jan 12 00:51:50 especially when you are the one who is being stupid Jan 12 00:52:11 Blade_Run : yes, i do. we can go like that all night Jan 12 00:52:18 bsdevious, read more about udev and you will find why Jan 12 00:52:32 bsdevious, generally udevd handles /dev nodes on 2.6 kernel Jan 12 00:52:33 Blade_Run: there's a config script that runs during install that lets you select rc scripts to be executable at boot, but that's just to do the initial config, post that you are expected to be able to use chmod by hand to make stuff exec or not Jan 12 00:52:36 ok thanks for your help and answers smps Jan 12 00:52:47 bsdevious, no problem , your wellcome Jan 12 00:52:54 Blade_Run: and to stuff custom stuff in rc.local or write your own rc scripts and add them to rc.M Jan 12 00:53:01 juhl, i used it before post install Jan 12 00:53:11 that worked Jan 12 00:53:13 sweet Jan 12 00:53:14 or better, get a clue stick and beat yourself over the head with it Jan 12 00:53:14 Blade_Run, how about this, I answer your question and you stop the kiddy stuff Jan 12 00:53:35 Blade_Run, the tool your looking for is under pkgtool Jan 12 00:53:39 <-- thr1ce has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 00:53:40 mortal_, sound like the initial question Jan 12 00:53:43 Blade_Run: I guess you can, but why bother? chmod +x or chmod -x is just as simple Jan 12 00:53:54 face it. he's a dumb kiddie. i wouldn't even bother answering him Jan 12 00:54:05 * ananke spots those from a mile away Jan 12 00:54:10 (simpler I'd say) Jan 12 00:54:22 ananke, because I was probobly as dumb and annoying at one point and yall answered me Jan 12 00:54:39 Blade it's in a util called pkgtool Jan 12 00:55:01 pkgtool -> Setup -> Services Jan 12 00:55:02 under setup Jan 12 00:55:06 mortal_ : it's one thing to be annoying, another is to be beligerent Jan 12 00:55:10 yuppers Jan 12 00:55:18 but all it does is chmod +/-x scripts in /etc/rc.d Jan 12 00:55:35 so why take the long way Jan 12 00:55:37 ? Jan 12 00:55:52 juhl, didn't know that...I'm not good w chmod Jan 12 00:56:05 there doesn't seem to be much documentation on it Jan 12 00:56:09 juhl, thank you Jan 12 00:56:12 mortal_: there's a very nice man page Jan 12 00:56:17 that's all i wanted to know Jan 12 00:56:48 I ususally just at a # in the rc.inet Jan 12 00:56:51 <-- [Granger] has quit () Jan 12 00:57:00 mortal_: huh? Jan 12 00:57:20 mortal_: try man chmod Jan 12 00:57:31 I believe rc.inet1-2 controls what services are started anywa Jan 12 00:57:39 so I just edit them Jan 12 00:58:28 mortal_: rc.inet1 gets basic ip networking up and running, configures IP addr, gateway, default route etc etc, rc.inet2 runs scripts that start some of the network services, but some stuff is started from rc.M Jan 12 00:58:37 * mortal_ goes back to studying java Jan 12 00:58:49 mortal_, stop studying java Jan 12 00:59:15 no java is the bread winner Jan 12 00:59:18 --> zid (~zid@ACCB8718.ipt.aol.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:59:25 --> Vayn0r (~Vayn0r@CPE0050047e7f32-CM0f2049994695.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 00:59:31 mortal_: learn how init works, read "man init" and "man inittab", then take a look at your /etc/inittab file and try to work out how the bootup proccess is handled - it's all pretty simple Jan 12 00:59:33 may not be sexy, but it'll keep me employed Jan 12 00:59:52 mortal_, so you're willing to sell your soul? Jan 12 01:00:12 Squall`, if it means i get to eat ...uh yeah Jan 12 01:00:12 mortal_: then read the scripts in /etc/rc.d in the order init will run them Jan 12 01:00:19 hmm, i think i'm going to see if i can hack up -current and create bootable iso with 2.6.x kernel Jan 12 01:00:25 <^Jenn> MMMMMMmmmmMMMM fisk stick Jan 12 01:00:40 ananke, hey do that...and put up a torrent file for it! Jan 12 01:00:42 when you are done reading you'll have a warm fuzzy feeling inside since you know ho your system boots and you'll never have to ask init related questions again :) Jan 12 01:00:51 <-- zid (~zid@ACCB8718.ipt.aol.com) has left ##slackware Jan 12 01:00:52 mortal_ : i'll just put it up on my ftp Jan 12 01:01:00 ananke: that should be pretty simple Jan 12 01:01:08 oh ^Jenn have you blessed us with your return? Jan 12 01:01:14 * drt does what juhl just suggested Jan 12 01:01:19 ananke: a simple matter of changing the default kernel Jan 12 01:01:31 then recreating the iso Jan 12 01:01:36 juhl : well, i'm going to try to automate the process, so i can create those easily with each -current update Jan 12 01:01:47 <-- teleyag has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 12 01:01:50 ananke, that'd be nice Jan 12 01:01:53 ananke: using the kernel from testing/ ? Jan 12 01:01:55 <^Jenn> yes my child Jan 12 01:01:57 <^Jenn> kiss my toe Jan 12 01:02:01 drt: good for you :) Jan 12 01:02:02 --> thr1ce (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:02:02 in addition, i want to replace the packages in k/ and a/ dirs for that Jan 12 01:02:06 juhl : yep Jan 12 01:02:26 im still not too good with linux, but im trying Jan 12 01:02:28 woot! Jan 12 01:02:33 is pat really gona stop dev gnome? Jan 12 01:02:36 <-- OutpourDCC has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 01:02:38 should be easy if you just add a 2.6 bzImage in the kernels directory and choose that from the kernel boot menu no? Jan 12 01:02:39 hopefully Jan 12 01:02:53 I just found out that I'm getting a complete, working Altair 8800 system, with disk drive, peripherals etc :)) Jan 12 01:02:55 * Legendre is giddy Jan 12 01:02:58 I mean i know he's got his hands full right now Jan 12 01:03:19 mortal_ if you only knew how much time gnome took Jan 12 01:03:22 ananke: even easier, download the -current tree, extract the modules, System.map and vmlinuz files from the kernel package and stuff them into /boot , then create the iso as per normal procedure, burn, boot CD .. Jan 12 01:03:46 ananke: knowing you that should be a 15min job max to script :) Jan 12 01:03:47 juhl, for what? Jan 12 01:03:48 thr1ce, ...yeah, but it did seem lighter than kde Jan 12 01:03:57 <^Jenn> im waiting Squall` Jan 12 01:04:07 thr1ce: huh? did I speak to you? Jan 12 01:04:11 juhl: yea sorta, they all depend on the 2.4 modules at present, so you'd have to replace those too Jan 12 01:04:16 juhl : if i'm going to be going the extra mile, i want to create fully functional -current iso with 2.6.x kernel, this means replacing packages from a/ and k/ Jan 12 01:04:22 juhl, no, just wondering what you're talking about Jan 12 01:04:28 ^Jenn, i guess you'll be waiting a while Jan 12 01:04:30 nevermind :) Jan 12 01:04:34 --> Fishboy (~fishboy@69-173-215-158.clvdoh.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:04:35 <^Jenn> :*( Jan 12 01:04:40 <^Jenn> holy rudeness in here Jan 12 01:04:55 ananke, i'd like a 2.6 inclusive -current disk Jan 12 01:04:59 <-- Nomius has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 01:05:17 thr1ce : yeah, lots of people have been asking about those recently, and i figured mind as well and see what i can put together Jan 12 01:05:34 today i was going to set up my new workstation, and i realized i couldn't install slack on it Jan 12 01:05:36 i have a question about slackware and my wireless card (Running on Dell Inspiron 2650 laptop and the card is a TrueMobile 1150) Jan 12 01:05:36 ananke, well, 10.1 might be 2.6...? Jan 12 01:05:37 ananke: it shouldn't be hard to do, but I wonder "why bother".. it's no big deal to install the packaged 2.6 kernel post-install or build a custom kernel.org 2.6 kernel post-install - 10 min extra work max (+ compile time) Jan 12 01:05:45 ananke, Throw some sata boot images in there while you'r at it Jan 12 01:05:46 sigh.. nobody gives a damn about my Altair =/ Jan 12 01:05:56 you're all a bunch of Judases! Jan 12 01:05:57 <^Jenn> who is juhl? Jan 12 01:06:01 ananke: it's a fscking iece of cake Jan 12 01:06:08 <^Jenn> i care Legendre Jan 12 01:06:08 <^Jenn> lol Jan 12 01:06:10 *piece Jan 12 01:06:23 ^Jenn: you haven't been here long I can tell ;) Jan 12 01:06:24 thanks ^Jenn :) Jan 12 01:06:28 <-- buzzedlightyear has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 01:06:29 juhl : why bother - to allow people install slack normally on machines that they can't install 10.0 [without major hacks] Jan 12 01:06:30 anyone? Jan 12 01:06:31 <^Jenn> oh? Jan 12 01:06:39 --> buzzedlightyear (~buzzedlig@68-116-50-50.or.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:06:46 --> The|Back| (~backdoor@196.28.46.203) has joined ##Slackware Jan 12 01:06:59 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to juhl Jan 12 01:07:00 <-- SlackOwnz has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 01:07:01 buzzedlightyear, Hello! Jan 12 01:07:06 --> phrag (~phrag@phra.gs) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:07:12 ^Jenn: call me a regular :) Jan 12 01:07:12 heya buzzedlightyear Jan 12 01:07:19 --- juhl removes channel operator status from juhl Jan 12 01:07:36 ^Jenn, eat your fish stick Jan 12 01:07:40 <^Jenn> i did Jan 12 01:07:44 --> madonna (~natguy@200.122.193.88) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:07:47 <^Jenn> with ketchup Jan 12 01:08:10 ananke: enjoy :) Jan 12 01:08:31 ananke, what 2.6.x are you thinking? Jan 12 01:08:32 juhl : i already rebuild slackware's initrd as it is for my pxe installs :) Jan 12 01:08:38 thr1ce : one from -current. Jan 12 01:09:10 i have a question about slackware and running my wireless card (Dell Inspiron 2650 laptop and the card is a TrueMobile 1150) Jan 12 01:09:15 ananke, you mean /extra? Jan 12 01:09:17 you never asked it fishboy Jan 12 01:09:25 thr1ce : it's in /testing to be exact Jan 12 01:09:30 it's great you let us know you have a question, just ask it Jan 12 01:09:32 er, /testing Jan 12 01:09:32 how do i get it working... Jan 12 01:09:33 heh Jan 12 01:09:40 right Jan 12 01:09:43 2.6.9 now? Jan 12 01:09:46 ohh, that reminds me Jan 12 01:09:56 2.6.10-bk14 just finished building Jan 12 01:09:57 reboot time Jan 12 01:09:59 ok sorry let me reword then Jan 12 01:10:04 see ya all in a sec Jan 12 01:10:04 Fishboy, uh, www.google.com ? first, you can check to see if it's already supported by the kernel (go to /usr/src/linux and run make menuconfig) Jan 12 01:10:13 <-- juhl has quit ("new kernel ...") Jan 12 01:10:24 what's up with initrd ? Jan 12 01:10:30 anyone here had dependency problems with -current? (excepting libidn)? Jan 12 01:10:46 maddler, what dependency problems? Jan 12 01:11:00 <-- StevenR has quit ("slackware...simplicity in a tgz package :)") Jan 12 01:11:23 wow Jan 12 01:11:29 huh? Jan 12 01:11:34 it's not really a problem with -current, it's a problem with not having a dependency needed by something else Jan 12 01:11:37 phrag: working? Jan 12 01:11:48 don't believe it... i was making it FAR too complex, rofl Jan 12 01:11:56 lol Jan 12 01:12:05 was writing huge ppp scripts and everything Jan 12 01:12:06 neo it doesnt say anything about my card in there Jan 12 01:12:20 didn't even occur to me to check the web interface (IOS) ! Jan 12 01:12:22 hehe Jan 12 01:12:24 Fishboy, www.google.com ? :D you could look at the output of lspci and see if it's based on a specific chipset ... Jan 12 01:12:26 sorted Jan 12 01:12:30 * phrag grins Jan 12 01:12:31 i believe it runs on that prism2 chip thing heh Jan 12 01:12:39 <-- AcIdR3IgN has quit () Jan 12 01:12:46 sometimes brand names mean nothing in terms of computer hardware, as it's still more about what chipset Jan 12 01:12:50 --> juhl (~juhl@213.237.34.34.adsl.suoe.worldonline.dk) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:12:53 phrag: logon setting in web interface? Jan 12 01:13:01 yes, so simple =P Jan 12 01:13:04 yeah the chipset is the prism2 Jan 12 01:13:06 heh Jan 12 01:13:26 Fishboy, is that chipset supported by the kernel? Jan 12 01:13:43 i have no clue at all. new to slackware and mainly linux in general Jan 12 01:13:45 cool Jan 12 01:13:48 i only know a litle bit of info Jan 12 01:13:54 little* Jan 12 01:13:57 ahh, I love the smell of new kernels in the morning... Linux dragon 2.6.10-bk14 #1 Wed Jan 12 00:59:22 CET 2005 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux Jan 12 01:13:58 im using slackware 10.0 Jan 12 01:14:04 Fishboy, well go look in the make menuconfig in networking (iirc) to see what chipsets are supported Jan 12 01:14:11 many programs (KDE, slapt-get and others) depend on libidn, i just want to know if someone here had problems with other applications Jan 12 01:14:15 juhl: heh Jan 12 01:14:15 if there's a module already for that chipset, just load the module, should work Jan 12 01:14:18 Fishboy: it's an orinoco based card, as long as you have pcmcia, cardbus, and yenta socket support, and orinoco support in kernel, pop it in and it'l work Jan 12 01:14:19 juhl: i am finally going 2.6 soon! Jan 12 01:14:26 running in -current Jan 12 01:14:32 lol dragon i like it. Jan 12 01:14:35 --> India (~JamesBomb@61.16.178.245) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:14:45 Vayn0r: it doesnt work i have it in there right now Jan 12 01:14:56 Fishboy: are you using a generic kernel? Jan 12 01:15:11 yeah whatever was installed off the cd Jan 12 01:15:13 madonna, i've never had issues with -current, and i compiled xfce 2.4 RC3 and xchat in -current Jan 12 01:15:32 phrag: i am going to wait till the cd burning issues are sorted out. Jan 12 01:15:33 <-- Xgates has quit ("Ping Timeout ( 0 Seconds )") Jan 12 01:15:41 Fishboy: is pcmcia running? Jan 12 01:16:03 ok, good to know Jan 12 01:16:03 couldnt tell you, it probes for pcmcia things at startup and beeps Jan 12 01:16:18 2 beeps but then it just starts up as usual Jan 12 01:16:41 madonna, Are you saying libidn isn't in -current, so you had problems with programs that depended on it Jan 12 01:16:45 Fishboy: lsmod, tell me if you have pcmcia modules and yenta loaded Jan 12 01:17:16 Fishboy, well it's not going to boot off the pc card, bro, unless your computer supports boot off network (which still, you'd know if you were using it) Jan 12 01:17:22 yenta_socket, and pcmcia_core Jan 12 01:17:45 Fishboy: any orinoco modules loaded? Jan 12 01:17:53 next to pcmcia_core it has [orinoco_cs ds yenta_socket] Jan 12 01:18:20 XGizzmo: hostname matches the tattoos on my upper arms :) I had to pick something... Jan 12 01:18:30 Fishboy: then the proper modules are loaded Jan 12 01:18:38 hejsa juhl :) Jan 12 01:18:45 phrag: good for you, I think you'll like it Jan 12 01:18:47 Fishboy: ifconfig -a, you should see wlan0 or your card in there somewhere, also check cardctl status Jan 12 01:18:53 hej India, hvordan går det? Jan 12 01:18:55 julh i like dragons and wizards Jan 12 01:19:10 hvordan går det? :( Jan 12 01:19:11 are cd burnign issues fixed in 2.6.10? Jan 12 01:19:12 eth0? Jan 12 01:19:16 Fishboy: it might not be wlan0, could be anything really, eth0 or eth1 too Jan 12 01:19:18 India: how goes ? Jan 12 01:19:26 * NeoLaptop modprobe's orinoco_flow "sail away, sail away, sail away ... " Jan 12 01:19:30 i have eth0 in there Jan 12 01:19:32 hehe, fine, thank you. Yourself? Jan 12 01:19:37 thr1ce: not sure but they are not in 2.6.9 Jan 12 01:19:47 India: I'm not complaining Jan 12 01:19:47 Fishboy: type cardctl ident, should see prism2 based card etc Jan 12 01:19:53 hm... Jan 12 01:19:57 --> Xgates (~Xgates@xgates.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:20:04 juhl, is CD burning fixed in that kerne;? Jan 12 01:20:13 yeah it has all the info there... Jan 12 01:20:17 thr1ce: works fine for me Jan 12 01:20:21 actualy specifies my exact card Jan 12 01:20:22 heh Jan 12 01:20:27 Fishboy: ok it's working, you just need to assign it an ip address and route Jan 12 01:20:40 Fishboy: if it's an eth card, can just add it to rc.inet1.conf Jan 12 01:20:46 juhl, did it in 2.6.9 (assuming you ran it) Jan 12 01:20:55 Fishboy: there's also an rc.wireless script, or you can create a custom script Jan 12 01:20:58 * NeoLaptop considers cdburning just another reason to stick with the linux kernel 2.4.x family Jan 12 01:21:01 thr1ce: but if you mean that some drive commands are still restricted to root, then yes, and they'll probably stay that way Jan 12 01:21:05 how do i get to those? Jan 12 01:21:09 sorry im very new with this heh Jan 12 01:21:16 im used to sticky to wired network Jan 12 01:21:18 Fishboy: in /etc/rc.d Jan 12 01:21:19 sticking* Jan 12 01:21:30 yeah...i like my 2.4.28 kernel Jan 12 01:21:50 Fishboy: edit rc.inet1.conf, you can add your ipaddress and route in there Jan 12 01:22:04 right Jan 12 01:22:10 Fishboy: if you use WEP encryption you'll have to do some harder editing Jan 12 01:22:13 thr1ce: but, I'm writing cd's with my PlexWriter 12/10/32S just fine Jan 12 01:22:17 i am...heh Jan 12 01:22:24 Fishboy: ok one sec Jan 12 01:23:01 all right...thanks :) Jan 12 01:23:06 XGizzmo: still issues with cd burning, i heard something about that Jan 12 01:23:15 * thr1ce thinks of compiling 2.6.10 Jan 12 01:23:28 Fishboy: one sec, phone Jan 12 01:23:31 or 2.6.7 Jan 12 01:23:35 k its cool take your time Jan 12 01:24:02 --> dynsite (~dynsite@host-67-35-39-11.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:24:24 i need help Jan 12 01:24:35 * NeoLaptop hugs his pre-made slackware-curent 2.4.28 kernel Jan 12 01:24:38 thr1ce: http://www.linuxtux.org/~juhl/2.6-kernel-build.txt <--- then read that Jan 12 01:24:38 this think wont let me go into my windows drives suing normal Jan 12 01:24:40 works good with K3B Jan 12 01:24:41 account Jan 12 01:24:45 Fishboy: http://vayne.fdns.net/files/rc.wireless, save that as rc.mywireless or something, that's an rc script i made for bringing up and down my wireless card, don't save it as rc.wireless because it conflicts with the already rc.wireless in /etc/rc.d Jan 12 01:24:59 right Jan 12 01:25:01 Fishboy: you can add your channel, WEP key in there, and bring it up from rc.local Jan 12 01:25:04 ill have to wire my laptop hold on Jan 12 01:25:11 thr1ce: go with 2.6.10 then, 2.6.7 is ancient Jan 12 01:25:16 juhl, i have tried to compile a kernel once, a few months ago when I first started using linux, and failed =[ Jan 12 01:25:17 anyone compile transcode-0.6.14 ? Jan 12 01:25:20 haven't tried since Jan 12 01:25:42 thr1ce: it's a piece of cake - read the quick guid I wrote, ask if something ddoes not work out Jan 12 01:26:09 juhl, "ancient" in linux years, sure ... Jan 12 01:26:14 juhl, well, it booted, but it was just extremely slow...or something Jan 12 01:26:23 Xgates, what is transcode? Jan 12 01:26:29 hehe Jan 12 01:26:32 and no alsa or internet =\ Jan 12 01:26:39 i need help Jan 12 01:26:44 NeoLaptop: it's for video encoding Jan 12 01:26:46 NeoLaptop: I can tell your not a multimedia buff :-) Jan 12 01:26:56 nope, not really Jan 12 01:26:57 <-- mortal_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 01:27:13 NeoLaptop: ---> http://zebra.fh-weingarten.de/~transcode/ Jan 12 01:27:14 is pr0n multimedia? Jan 12 01:27:15 :D Jan 12 01:27:19 (just kidding) Jan 12 01:27:22 lol Jan 12 01:27:53 but nah, i'm not into multimedia with linux very much. i use linux for everything, sure, but still.... i don't have much time. i'm military. Jan 12 01:28:15 damm latest version is acting so goofy I compiled ffmpeg correct and a little while ago transcode was compiling the ./configure with ffmpeg now the damm thing is complaining about it again Jan 12 01:28:20 slackcare.com is paid now? Jan 12 01:28:26 anyway, site sucked Jan 12 01:28:27 NOW that I can't figure how one sec it's ok then another time its not Jan 12 01:28:28 not much packages Jan 12 01:28:29 NeoLaptop: well, if you had to pick a kernel to start with today, 2.6.10 is the logical choice, there's no reason to go with 2.6.7 Jan 12 01:28:33 sounds buggy to me Jan 12 01:28:34 :/ Jan 12 01:28:35 hmmm Jan 12 01:28:38 most never worked Jan 12 01:29:03 dunno i just use mencoder Jan 12 01:29:08 hi everybody, got a small question about glibc Jan 12 01:29:11 juhl, that's not what i meant. me, i'd think the logical choice for a distro that ships with 2.4.x is to continue using 2.4.x since it's still maintained Jan 12 01:29:22 in the HOWTO it says get the latest 2.2 kernel source Jan 12 01:29:24 but in terms of ancient, sure, 2.6.7 could be considered ancient Jan 12 01:29:32 but is a 2.6 kernel source okay too? Jan 12 01:29:35 NeoLaptop: and yes, it really *is* ancient - a lot happens in 7 months Jan 12 01:30:02 c Jan 12 01:30:09 all right...time to run- back later Jan 12 01:30:18 shit i gtg thanks for the help Jan 12 01:30:20 ill bbl Jan 12 01:30:30 juhl: don't tell Straterra that! he thinks every version after that is broken because they changed the pci_save_state and pci_restore_state structs were changed! Jan 12 01:30:49 i need help Jan 12 01:30:59 NeoLaptop: I'd tend to disagree - 2.4.x is fine and it's maintained, sure, it works nicely and up to 2.6.8-9'ish 2.6 was not too stable, but recently it's been getting a lot better and I'd personally consider 2.6.10 ready for production use Jan 12 01:31:33 dynsite: help with wat? Jan 12 01:31:38 dynsite: help with what? Jan 12 01:31:59 ok i cant Jan 12 01:32:07 get into my windows partitions Jan 12 01:32:12 on normal user Jan 12 01:32:16 but i can using root Jan 12 01:32:27 and i want to set permissions so this account can access Jan 12 01:32:35 windows drives Jan 12 01:32:55 --> Kyle_S_ (~kyle@c-24-12-143-3.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:33:03 dynsite - easy. Jan 12 01:33:32 i just want to do that cause Jan 12 01:33:37 dynsite: "man mount", "man fstab" - read about uid= gid= umask= Jan 12 01:33:49 dynsite - smartest thing might be to add an fstab entry with 'user' or 'users' in it. Jan 12 01:34:00 --> Fenderx (~admin@S01060006258c685c.vf.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:34:01 dynsite: also read about the 'user' and 'users' options for fstab Jan 12 01:34:08 or you could use gid, uid etc.. but that's sloppier IMO. Jan 12 01:34:16 lagged juhl? Jan 12 01:34:26 Legendre: I guess so Jan 12 01:34:36 not. Jan 12 01:34:48 noe, doesn't seem like it Jan 12 01:35:04 all that seperates us is about 546mS.. Jan 12 01:35:05 guess I'm just slow typing and neglect reading at the same time Jan 12 01:35:07 ;) Jan 12 01:35:12 --- Ping reply from Legendre : 0.31 second(s) Jan 12 01:35:13 oh, I *never* do that.. Jan 12 01:35:18 --> moshe (~moshe@ool-18bab348.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:35:19 <-- madonna (~natguy@200.122.193.88) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 01:35:38 hello Jan 12 01:35:44 olleh Jan 12 01:35:44 lo Jan 12 01:35:53 where do I find a log of ssh connections that were made to my machine? Jan 12 01:35:58 or is there such an animal? Jan 12 01:36:11 /var/log/ Jan 12 01:36:47 messages is probably what you want Jan 12 01:38:24 --- nixor gives voice to phrag Jan 12 01:38:25 it logs all the attempts made from the outside Jan 12 01:38:30 <-- blackhat_ has quit ("kill -9 irc -.-") Jan 12 01:38:32 I'm just looking for the connection that I made myself Jan 12 01:38:40 reading "man sshd" to learn about the login process and where sshd logs to wouldn't harm you - neither would reading "man syslogd" and "man syslog" Jan 12 01:38:44 outbound moshe? Jan 12 01:38:53 I was at work, and I logged into my home machine Jan 12 01:38:57 outbound wouldn't be logged Jan 12 01:39:05 grep for the IP at work I'd think. Jan 12 01:39:14 I want to find out the ip address from my work machine that I used to log in here at home. Jan 12 01:39:34 heh, then search based on the time you know you logged in. Jan 12 01:39:38 grep -H '111.222.1212.2121' /var/log/* should give some clues Jan 12 01:39:39 found it Jan 12 01:39:46 moshe, then check /var/log/messages dmesg Jan 12 01:39:51 (use proper IP of course= Jan 12 01:39:53 ) Jan 12 01:40:00 yeah, .2121 is a fake ip Jan 12 01:40:08 accepted password for from Jan 12 01:40:09 FAKER Jan 12 01:40:09 ssssh its mine :) Jan 12 01:40:10 Legendre: quite Jan 12 01:40:32 anyone here have a linksys router? Jan 12 01:40:37 --> omnistegan (~omnistega@S0106000ae6a090a7.cg.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:41:13 <-- Drag0n has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 01:41:20 is it possible to admin a router remotely? Jan 12 01:41:20 hey, anyone in here able to help me with a hardware problem? Jan 12 01:41:28 what type of hardware problem? Jan 12 01:41:51 --> heinola (heinola@63.98.3.53) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:42:01 --> stodge (~mike@CPE0080c8790cda-CM000039179a5e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:42:11 a new harddrive, can't get windows or linux to recognize it Jan 12 01:42:45 <-- dngr has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 01:42:48 any docs on slackware site for setting up lan? Jan 12 01:42:58 omnistegan: you have it set in the bios? Jan 12 01:43:06 omnistegan: improperly jumpered? Jan 12 01:43:22 heinola, did you install the howtos when you installed slack? if so, check out the files in /usr/doc Jan 12 01:43:23 its jumpered right Jan 12 01:43:27 i know that Jan 12 01:43:28 --> Drag0n (~dragon@c-67-162-246-16.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:43:37 omnistegan: did you ide detect it in the bios? Jan 12 01:43:47 <-- Kyle_S has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 01:43:51 is it a sata drive omnistegan? Jan 12 01:44:11 It was detected in the bios, and the new hardware wizard poped up the first time i started windows with it Jan 12 01:44:17 its ide Jan 12 01:44:19 sata suport is still pretty lame in Linux =/ Jan 12 01:44:20 160gis Jan 12 01:44:28 ok - I can't get some Linux distros to recognise my SATA drive Jan 12 01:44:35 --> Kurt2 (kmw@evvlinlwt-nas-03-s315.cinergycom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:44:36 Legendre: "Just use SCSI" ;) Jan 12 01:44:46 heh, ya. Jan 12 01:44:49 Fedora Core 2 and SUSE 9.2 Jan 12 01:44:56 Legendre, bah on SCSI, who uses it? Jan 12 01:44:58 err Jan 12 01:44:59 juhl Jan 12 01:45:07 stodge: well, the first thing you need to find out is : Jan 12 01:45:10 <-- Caveman has quit ("How can I know all this, but not know who I am ?") Jan 12 01:45:24 stodge: 1) is your hardware supported by the linux kernel *at all* ? Jan 12 01:45:40 stodge: 2) is your hardware supported by the kernel used by the installer? Jan 12 01:45:41 it should be, its the exact same as my master drive Jan 12 01:45:46 yes it is - Fedora Core 2, SUSE 9.1, Ubuntu and Slack 10 detect it perfectly Jan 12 01:45:54 Squall`: I do Jan 12 01:45:57 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:46:06 why? Jan 12 01:46:28 Squall`: SCSI HD, SCSI CD-ROM, SCSI DVD - and that's just my home box - all the servers at work are SCSI based as well Jan 12 01:46:41 Squall`: speed, stability, durability Jan 12 01:46:43 Anyone here use iptables + nat + port forwarding? Jan 12 01:46:49 what do i look for in docs to read apon? Jan 12 01:47:08 Straterra: not on this box, but on various other boxes, yes Jan 12 01:47:10 <-- Blade_Run has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 01:47:18 Do the Slack 10 installation CDs include the SDL librares? Jan 12 01:47:27 juhl, could you check to see what line you use for the port forwarding? Jan 12 01:47:32 Straterra: www.netfilter.org - the docs section Jan 12 01:47:42 stodge: yea Jan 12 01:48:00 --> dngr (~dngr@dsl-200-67-143-98.prod-empresarial.com.mx) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:48:05 disk 2 I guess Jan 12 01:48:09 Straterra: i do Jan 12 01:48:55 Straterra: what exactely do you want to do ? Jan 12 01:49:06 juhl, forward a port Jan 12 01:49:09 iptables -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 2222 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.1.1:22 Jan 12 01:49:10 for example Jan 12 01:49:21 Straterra: from where to where ? Jan 12 01:49:23 Incoming port 800 for example, out to 192.168.0.111 on port 22 Jan 12 01:49:26 Straterra: tcp or udp ? Jan 12 01:49:29 also if your FORWARD policy is set to drop, you'll have to allow it in FORWARD as well Jan 12 01:49:29 tcp Jan 12 01:49:33 Straterra: you accept with iptables -A FORWARD first, then forward with an example like SiegeX did Jan 12 01:49:40 <-- India (~JamesBomb@61.16.178.245) has left ##slackware ("I was using mIRC on WindowsXP-Kernel32-i386-SP2-MS.dll (Crack + Keygen By Dr. Bill Gates)") Jan 12 01:50:09 heh my example was actually fairly close Jan 12 01:50:10 Straterra: so incomming on x.x.x.x:800 forwarded to y.y.y.y:800 ? (y.y.y.y being a private IP NAT'ed out through x.x.x.x) ??? Jan 12 01:50:11 i always use state matching too, to avoid messups Jan 12 01:50:15 not disc2 - that's all GNOME and KDE Jan 12 01:50:19 juhl, yeah Jan 12 01:50:21 <-- omnistegan (~omnistega@S0106000ae6a090a7.cg.shawcable.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 01:50:31 Straterra: i gave you the framework, fill in the blanks Jan 12 01:50:42 Straterra: i'll give you 2 lines example from my firewall script Jan 12 01:50:47 Vayn0r, um..ok Jan 12 01:50:51 stodge: SDL is included with slack 10, yes Jan 12 01:51:01 I just can't find it. Jan 12 01:51:11 Straterra: #$IPT -A FORWARD -p tcp -m state --state NEW -i eth0 --dport 5500 -j ACCEPT that's first line for vnc listen Jan 12 01:51:25 <-- smerik has quit ("zzzzzzzzzzzzzz") Jan 12 01:51:41 Straterra: #$IPT -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -m state --state NEW -i eth0 --dport 5500 -j DNAT --to-destination $TRG Jan 12 01:51:46 that's the forward Jan 12 01:51:55 What is eth0? Jan 12 01:51:56 Never mind - disabled SDL test in configure :) Jan 12 01:52:02 interface Jan 12 01:52:03 The interface to the internet? Jan 12 01:52:07 yea Jan 12 01:52:38 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 -d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Jan 12 01:52:38 --dport 8888 -j DNAT --to 192.168.0.2:80 Jan 12 01:52:38 /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -i eth0 -d 192.168.0.2 --dport 80 -j ACCEPT Jan 12 01:52:44 something like that should do Jan 12 01:53:05 --> Outpour (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:53:12 Straterra: you should know what eth0 is on your box, damn it ;) Jan 12 01:53:17 haha no kidding Jan 12 01:53:19 juhl, I know Jan 12 01:53:30 I was asking it eth0 was the interface to the internet or internal network Jan 12 01:53:33 So I can change it, LoL Jan 12 01:53:41 Straterra: have you considered browsing through http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/index.html for a bit ? Jan 12 01:53:45 Straterra: you only need to specify the internet interface Jan 12 01:53:52 reading works wonders problem solving wise ;) Jan 12 01:53:53 juhl, yeah, but I am in a rush ATM Jan 12 01:53:53 Straterra: because you're forwarding to ip addresses Jan 12 01:53:59 <-- heinola has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 01:54:07 no need to have -m state NEW in the PREROUTING rule Jan 12 01:54:17 keep it in the filter tables Jan 12 01:54:22 SiegeX: true Jan 12 01:54:25 Straterra: the $TRG in my line would be an ip address to another machine on your network Jan 12 01:54:37 SiegeX: whatever, he just wanted an example Jan 12 01:54:45 Yeah Jan 12 01:55:07 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 01:55:16 IT WORKED! Jan 12 01:55:19 Thanks guys!! Jan 12 01:55:19 ya, and i gave him one :) and yours was fine, was mostly referring to Vayn0r Jan 12 01:55:21 Ha ha ha!! Jan 12 01:55:21 SiegeX: yea i only used state matching when i forward everything to avoid dns requests Jan 12 01:55:30 It worked, it worked, it worked! Jan 12 01:55:54 <-- moshe has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 01:55:59 --- MacGuyver is now known as MacGuyver_ Jan 12 01:56:43 not sure i get how state matching and dns requests go together Jan 12 01:56:44 Straterra: now go read so you won't have to ask again next time ;) Jan 12 01:56:49 juhl, yeah.. Jan 12 01:56:58 <-- Fenderx has quit () Jan 12 01:57:04 I had a working one before, but I had to erase and start all over due to being hacked Jan 12 01:57:15 SiegeX: dns requests are related and established, so they pass from my router to my isp. So i want to forward every NEW incoming connection Jan 12 01:57:26 Straterra: this is better than the netfiler docs IMHO http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html Jan 12 01:57:31 anyways, afk Jan 12 01:57:33 Straterra: bad term - you mean cracked - don't you? Jan 12 01:57:38 juhl, yes.. Jan 12 01:57:42 It was malicious Jan 12 01:57:45 * juhl hacks, and is proud of it Jan 12 01:57:48 * juhl doesn't crack Jan 12 01:58:11 * SiegeX does smack, but isnt so proud of it Jan 12 01:58:35 lol Jan 12 01:58:52 <-- The|Back| has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 01:58:53 haha Jan 12 01:59:00 SiegeX: say hi to everyone up there on cloud 9 ;) Jan 12 01:59:20 haha Jan 12 01:59:21 <-- phrag (~phrag@phra.gs) has left ##slackware Jan 12 01:59:32 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 01:59:32 * juhl wishes he had some pot so he could roll up a joint ... Jan 12 01:59:34 <-- Squall` has quit ("/join #linuxforum") Jan 12 01:59:51 mmmkay, you're welcome Straterra! Jan 12 02:00:15 dont forget to watch Harold & Kumar and/or Half Baked after lighting up Jan 12 02:00:56 --> [SfD]alpha (~playwithm@dad0136-1.resnet.wvu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:01:20 i wouldn't, might end up going to white castle ;) Jan 12 02:01:47 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:01:48 --- [SfD]alpha is now known as `alpha Jan 12 02:03:03 I guess the standard slack 10 kernel doesn't support USB hot plugging? Jan 12 02:03:16 <-- Kurt2 has quit ("Given a sufficiently strong spring, any Maglite battery compartment cover is impossible to close.") Jan 12 02:04:08 stodge: yea it does Jan 12 02:04:20 stodge: in the post install it will ask you to setup hotplug Jan 12 02:04:44 hmmm Jan 12 02:05:06 stodge: plug/unplug, you'll see modules load, tail /var/log/messages Jan 12 02:05:12 Don't remember that... Jan 12 02:05:42 stodge: in /etc/rc.d is rc.hotplug, chmod 0755 it to have it start on boot Jan 12 02:06:06 <-- Kurt has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 12 02:06:49 --> okmeufilho (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:06:59 --> teleyag (~teleyag@pcp08125753pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:08:19 --> phrag (~phrag@phra.gs) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:08:48 --- nixor gives voice to phrag Jan 12 02:10:09 stodge: as far as I recall, it does Jan 12 02:10:13 <-- three_11 has quit ("Get away from me biatch") Jan 12 02:10:42 damn, I need sleep. Jan 12 02:10:46 --> ^dev^ (~dev@bgp01014816bgs.rosvle01.mi.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:10:47 bye bye everyone Jan 12 02:10:57 <-- juhl has quit ("sleep(28800);") Jan 12 02:13:40 <-- raindog has quit ("Let's blow this taco stand!") Jan 12 02:13:46 off to hooters, lates Jan 12 02:13:51 <-- Vayn0r (~Vayn0r@CPE0050047e7f32-CM0f2049994695.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!") Jan 12 02:14:04 he must be going for the chicken wings Jan 12 02:14:28 bah-BUMP! Jan 12 02:15:43 <-- ^dev^ has quit ("leaving") Jan 12 02:16:26 --> newbie`` (1000@212.156.164.142) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:16:29 <-- dynsite has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 02:17:27 --> The|Back| (~backdoor@196.28.46.203) has joined ##Slackware Jan 12 02:20:12 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:20:23 --> darkarcon2015 (~darkarcon@dsl-64-246-157-89.rtr0-cox.statetel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:20:29 hoy hoy! Jan 12 02:20:40 how is everyone today? Jan 12 02:22:06 --> Kyle_S (~kyle@c-24-12-143-3.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:23:05 <-- Kyle_S_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 02:23:25 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:23:57 i have a question about setting up my own mailserver, since my ISP blocks port 25, i can make use smtp but they do offer a sever that i can use instead. how would i be able to incorperate that into using my own pop server while using their smtp server? Jan 12 02:24:15 i canT make use OF smtp** Jan 12 02:25:11 --> ptlo (~senko@cmung3257.cmu.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:25:24 <-- blaylock has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 02:25:34 have you tried calling up your ISP and demanding they remove the port25 block other wise you will go elsewhere Jan 12 02:25:38 often times that works Jan 12 02:26:32 in most cases, they won't do a thing, as most have TOSs that state that you cannot use servers on home accounts Jan 12 02:26:39 --> nullvalue (~echelon@ool-43576ba8.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:26:44 W|GG-Laptop, yup Jan 12 02:26:51 Mine says that, and I happily run like 4 servers Jan 12 02:26:56 they'll prolly try to talk you into a business account Jan 12 02:27:23 my isp also blocks port 25...i think most do Jan 12 02:27:28 and id say "thanks, you talked me into getting Cable" Jan 12 02:27:32 my last isp did also Jan 12 02:27:38 and the one before that Jan 12 02:27:43 well then I guess i consider myself lucky Jan 12 02:27:56 <-- teleyag has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 02:28:05 W|GG-Laptop, they do Jan 12 02:28:09 And alot block 80 too Jan 12 02:28:18 yeah Jan 12 02:28:29 I'm pretty happy though.. Jan 12 02:28:35 i understand WHY they block 25, but they should also have a way to undo the block, for example most ISP's have an web account you can log onto, somewhere in there should be an option to unblock 25/80 Jan 12 02:28:44 those that dont know about it know care to look or bother Jan 12 02:28:45 <-- ShastaMaroon has quit ("Client Exiting") Jan 12 02:28:58 Hmm, can't get my memory card reader to mount Jan 12 02:29:03 and it will still stop a majority of the spam zombies Jan 12 02:29:05 I have terrible uptimes and tons of packet loss...but they just upped my connection from 3mbit to 5mbit Jan 12 02:29:11 SiegeX, yeah.. Jan 12 02:29:28 That is why, to stop open-relays and spam zombies, I think Jan 12 02:29:42 Wait..isn't 25 to receive emails? Jan 12 02:29:48 sbc actually spoofs their MX record to a smtp server that drops all mail Jan 12 02:30:07 that was a bitch and a half to figure out how to overcome to get SMARTHOST working with SMTP AUTH Jan 12 02:30:21 turns out you just have to add [ ] around your SMARTHOST to ignore MX Jan 12 02:30:27 in sendmail that is Jan 12 02:30:29 That's actually pretty cool though.. Jan 12 02:30:35 Spoofed MX records Jan 12 02:30:47 May be an inconvenience..but cool as hell Jan 12 02:30:48 --> krao (~krao@CM-14-43.attla.cl) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:31:02 well, i dont maind the blocking of he port considering i can use their server for free Jan 12 02:31:18 i want to know if i can use my own pop server and their smtp server Jan 12 02:31:48 [root@maximus]# dig MX smtp.sbcglobal.yahoo.com Jan 12 02:31:53 smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com. 1800 IN MX 1 nomail.yahoo.com. Jan 12 02:32:32 ? Jan 12 02:32:34 nomail.yahoo.com drops everything Jan 12 02:32:43 --> dwolf (~unknown@dwolf.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:32:49 CoOol got it working. Now just need to increase my refresh rate Jan 12 02:32:54 took me quite some time to figure out that was the problem Jan 12 02:32:56 --> keanne (~riken@mnc04.mei.co.jp) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:33:06 cause they dont advertise that shit ;) Jan 12 02:33:26 Slack is incredibly zippy Jan 12 02:33:36 slackware is sexy! Jan 12 02:33:41 <-- At0mic_PC has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 02:33:50 ya, i fucked up my box yesterday by trying out that latest kernel exploit Jan 12 02:34:08 it never popped a root shell but it did fubar libtermcap.so Jan 12 02:34:13 which made it so i couldnt login Jan 12 02:35:23 was a bitch to fix cause im using software raid5 and booting off of the slack cd's doesnt know how to recreate the raid. so i had to go figure out how to do that manually. Jan 12 02:35:47 <-- ptlo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 02:36:45 Ouch Jan 12 02:36:50 <-- XGizzmo has quit ("going going gone") Jan 12 02:36:53 So..it didn't give you a root shell? Jan 12 02:37:02 That's lame..WTF kind of exploit is that?! Jan 12 02:37:20 no, but it *was* able to alter a file that was chmod 000 and chown root.root Jan 12 02:37:48 But..if you don't get a root shell..then isn't it a lame exploit? Jan 12 02:37:50 im sure the reason why it didnt pop a root shell was because the base address it uses is wrong for slackware Jan 12 02:38:16 brb Jan 12 02:38:20 <-- Kyle_S (~kyle@c-24-12-143-3.client.comcast.net) has left ##slackware Jan 12 02:38:29 fear my website: http://netsoc.ucd.ie/~roboc/raela/ Jan 12 02:38:53 --> fsk1 (~chino@pcp09995929pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:39:07 is it possible to setup the routing table manually ? Jan 12 02:39:08 Those horses remind me of my dog Jan 12 02:39:09 raela, i'm already scared Jan 12 02:39:16 Straterra: not exactly, lets say i want to hose your box, all i would have to do is point that exploit to /etc/shadow, boom no login for j00 Jan 12 02:39:32 He's an italian greyhound and acts like a horse/deer Jan 12 02:39:47 SiegeX, What ports would have to be forwarded for that to work? Jan 12 02:39:48 okay, i tried setting my ISP's smtp server as the smtp-server in pine's config, i get this message when i try to send a message: [Error sending: DNS resolution *server name*] Jan 12 02:39:55 StarScream: its a local exploit Jan 12 02:39:58 And..does that include local logins? Jan 12 02:40:00 Straterra: aww, sounds cute Jan 12 02:40:01 Oh..local exploit Jan 12 02:40:08 raela, I got some pics..somewhere Jan 12 02:40:12 Aaah Jan 12 02:40:18 --> Dominian (~dominian@dominian.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:40:26 SiegeX, I don't provide SSH..infact, Its restricted to inside the network.. Jan 12 02:40:37 but, just cause its local doesnt mean its dangerous, who knows what remote exploits there are out there. and combined with this, those remote exploits only have to be able to run commands as a non-root user Jan 12 02:40:49 hum does "chown" mean "change owner"? Jan 12 02:40:56 yes Jan 12 02:41:04 SiegeX: what can you do to a server as a non-root user? Jan 12 02:41:19 Dominian: bloat the hd! Jan 12 02:41:32 dl porn Jan 12 02:41:33 Or get personal information (CC numbers, ect ect) Jan 12 02:41:40 Or run a backdoor Jan 12 02:41:53 Or use the machine as a zombie for a DDoS Jan 12 02:41:56 get the ip addy in law trouble Jan 12 02:42:02 raela: this is why you do quotas on a server with more than one user Jan 12 02:42:11 hum does "chown" mean "change owner"? Jan 12 02:42:15 yes Jan 12 02:42:18 okay Jan 12 02:42:20 Straterra: well imagine that sombody finds a remote exploit in Apache tomorrow that allows sombody to send malformed packets that will make apache run any command they desire. You could have it set up a backdoor with the 'apache' user, then login with that and use something like this local exploit to escalate privliges Jan 12 02:42:26 what does "chmod" mean? Jan 12 02:42:34 change mode Jan 12 02:42:38 i see Jan 12 02:42:40 SiegeX, but the apache user doesn't have a valid shell Jan 12 02:42:41 <-- stodge has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 12 02:42:53 my poor little sister.. my mom gave her supository medicine :( Jan 12 02:43:03 raela, LoL Jan 12 02:43:05 raela, that cute little baby in your pic? Jan 12 02:43:06 :( Jan 12 02:43:10 That has got to suck Jan 12 02:43:11 Squall`: yeah :( Jan 12 02:43:21 but it is changing privileges though? Jan 12 02:43:30 she doesn't like swallowing medecine.. so they stick it in where nothing should go :( Jan 12 02:43:39 That's evil Jan 12 02:43:41 darkarcon2015: slackwiki.org Tutorials section there is one in here about linux permissions Jan 12 02:43:43 HAHA Jan 12 02:43:48 no,but you could make it so that it binds /bin/sh to some port Jan 12 02:43:51 <-- war- has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 02:43:53 Dominian: i know what chmod does Jan 12 02:44:01 --> Kyle_S (~kyle@c-24-12-143-3.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:44:02 i just didnt know what it stood for :) Jan 12 02:44:08 super easy to do if you have nc installed Jan 12 02:44:12 darkarcon2015: You know what it does but you ask if it's changing privs? Jan 12 02:44:15 but still doable if you dont Jan 12 02:44:29 SiegeX: just use port knocking Jan 12 02:44:32 Dominian:it does... Jan 12 02:44:42 nc? Jan 12 02:44:45 What's nc? Jan 12 02:44:51 SiegeX: or TARPIT 22 and put SSh on a diff port Jan 12 02:44:53 netcat Jan 12 02:45:16 dont need SSH for this, and port knocking wont stop a backdoor that connects back to the attacker Jan 12 02:45:37 so that means that somethings "mode" is that same as its privileges Jan 12 02:45:46 SiegeX: You prevent the attacker getting in Jan 12 02:45:51 SiegeX: if you are that worried about apache.. don't use it Jan 12 02:46:18 im not woried about apache, im just showing that unpatched local exploits can still be danagerous even if you dont have any local users Jan 12 02:46:22 --> fhobia (~fhobia@24-205-238-48.slo-cres.charterpipeline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:46:26 * Dominian shrugs Jan 12 02:46:41 If someone doesn't update every exploit.. that's their problem Jan 12 02:47:03 right, and i was showing Straterra why that is wise to do Jan 12 02:47:15 even though he doesnt have SSH bound to an external interface Jan 12 02:47:44 has anyone here ever put Linux on their GCN? Jan 12 02:47:50 well patching exploits isn't that hard.. so I dunno what the fuss is about Jan 12 02:47:55 gcn? Jan 12 02:47:58 gamecube Jan 12 02:48:03 uhh no Jan 12 02:48:09 n? Jan 12 02:48:12 and I know there's one for xbox as well Jan 12 02:48:20 but why waste my time? Jan 12 02:48:24 yeah, i dont know why it isnt NGC Jan 12 02:48:30 N = nintendo... Jan 12 02:48:34 Oh..local exploit Jan 12 02:48:35 SiegeX, I don't provide SSH..infact, Its restricted to inside the network.. Jan 12 02:48:38 i was just commenting on that is all Jan 12 02:48:41 anyway, i did today, it was weird Jan 12 02:48:41 im done now ;) Jan 12 02:48:56 <-- `alpha has quit () Jan 12 02:48:57 oi oi Jan 12 02:49:15 --- ChanServ gives voice to Kyle_S Jan 12 02:49:16 i wish that i had a keyboard for it, because i had to SSH to it to use it Jan 12 02:49:38 --> Straterra_ (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:49:48 darkarcon2015: what box? Jan 12 02:49:53 --- nixor removes ban on *!*gentoooh*@*.sympatico.ca Jan 12 02:50:13 Kyle_S: my gamecube Jan 12 02:50:18 darkarcon2015: Sweeet. Jan 12 02:50:22 yeah Jan 12 02:50:27 omg! it's Kyle_S my favorite op until another one gets here! Jan 12 02:50:34 darkarcon2015: dont they have keyboards for it at funcoland or whatever they call the used gameshops now? Jan 12 02:50:41 yes Jan 12 02:50:54 but i dont want to spend the money on one Jan 12 02:51:03 <-- jmedina has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 02:51:17 linux on it was for fun, not to actually use instead of my wonerful PC :) Jan 12 02:51:36 i should spend some money on learning to type >_> Jan 12 02:51:44 * darkarcon2015 laughs at himself Jan 12 02:52:08 i once put gentoo on a dreamcast cd its kinda silly to use a system like that but the xbox linux has that tivo player app and that looks good for playing video over the network Jan 12 02:52:30 yeah, but if you put linux on your xbox, you cant use Live Jan 12 02:52:41 Who uses Live anyway? Jan 12 02:52:45 POS pay for service.. Jan 12 02:52:53 darkarcon2015-> its not linux, its the bios chip, you have to turn it off b4 connecting Jan 12 02:52:54 $50 per year isnt that bad Jan 12 02:52:57 darkarcon2015: You can't use anything once linux is on your xbox.. it's then a linux box Jan 12 02:52:59 I mean..why spend $50 on a game, then fork over money monthly just to play online? Jan 12 02:53:02 before i setup NAT... should i assign the host 'puter with a static 192.168.*.1 ip? Jan 12 02:53:03 you can get a modchip Jan 12 02:53:10 ximpul: not to mention MS fixed that.. Jan 12 02:53:15 yeah Jan 12 02:53:22 me? Jan 12 02:53:26 but still, Xbox Linux does look awesome Jan 12 02:53:26 darkarcon2015, $50 more than what I pay to play online Jan 12 02:53:40 Straterra: well its $50 i wanted to pay... Jan 12 02:53:48 Dominian-> fixed what? Jan 12 02:53:53 it scans for linux now? Jan 12 02:53:59 ximpul: the ability to install linux on xbox Jan 12 02:54:06 yeah there was a patch Jan 12 02:54:08 ximpul: nah.. if linux is already on it.. won't find it Jan 12 02:54:17 darkarcon2015, join the good side..go PS2 Jan 12 02:54:19 Dominian-> what? are you sure? Jan 12 02:54:20 ximpul: but if you have xbox live and connect.. get auto udpated so you can't do it Jan 12 02:54:21 you can just run knoppix on xbox... it works fine :P Jan 12 02:54:21 BAH Jan 12 02:54:25 ximpul: I'm positive Jan 12 02:54:27 humm. I've seen some benchmarks of linux on the XBox....after you factor in the cost of the modchip even a used xbox comes in bad on the price/performance ratio. Jan 12 02:54:32 i would _never_ get a PS2 Jan 12 02:54:34 nullvalue: really? Jan 12 02:54:38 yup :) Jan 12 02:54:40 Dominian-> do you mean with the xbox 1.6b? Jan 12 02:54:44 nullvalue: I have aknoppix and slax cd here... hmm Jan 12 02:54:50 try it Jan 12 02:54:51 ximpul: dunno never got that deep into it Jan 12 02:54:53 what!? Jan 12 02:55:01 if i put in my knoppix cd it will doot, i dont think so Jan 12 02:55:04 boot* Jan 12 02:55:05 HAHA Jan 12 02:55:11 nullvalue: I don't have a keyboard or mouse to hook up though is the crappy thing Jan 12 02:55:19 ah :/ Jan 12 02:55:23 if you put knopp in a modded xbox it may boot Jan 12 02:55:24 Straterra_: ps2 is great for games, but for linux it has a long way to go ;) I have linux for the ps2, and its fun but... well lets just say the X server that works with it makes framebuffer X on a 15mhz sparc look killer. Jan 12 02:55:32 ximpul: ya know... let me try Jan 12 02:55:32 darkarcon2015: why not? Jan 12 02:55:32 yeah, a modded one Jan 12 02:55:40 * Dominian gets his knoppix cd Jan 12 02:55:45 Kyle_S, atleast you have it Jan 12 02:55:59 I can't even find it anymore becuase they stopped making it for North America Jan 12 02:56:04 Straterra_: true ;) but I had to hock the ps2 since I didn't have room to take it back to the states. I just kept the linux kit. Jan 12 02:56:17 because i dont think the xbox is looking for the same info to boot it Jan 12 02:56:18 Kyle_S, and you can use other distros and stuff with that kit, you know Jan 12 02:56:30 Kyle_S, How'sthe ipaq auction going? Jan 12 02:56:31 Straterra_: I know....but I DO have the devel dvd and the full release dvd. Jan 12 02:56:33 I'm almost 99% sure you can use any distro on that kit.. Jan 12 02:56:40 Kyle_S, Ah Jan 12 02:56:41 eelriverlt: at a whopping $61 last I looksed. Jan 12 02:56:45 * Kyle_S is getting nervous. Jan 12 02:56:48 yeah gotta be a modded xbox Jan 12 02:56:50 Kyle_S, You know what would be cool.. Jan 12 02:56:53 and I'm not shelling out the cash for a new chip Jan 12 02:56:57 what Jan 12 02:57:04 would be col Jan 12 02:57:11 Get a bunch of PS2's for cheap (used), throw the Linux kit in it and have a huge compiling farm Jan 12 02:57:12 v_v Jan 12 02:57:14 Straterra_: I know you can use other distros, but unless you modchip it, you have to boot off of an official linux dvd (but you can use your own kernel, and despite what many people say 2.4 works just fine, never tried 2.6) Jan 12 02:57:18 Kyle_S, I forget, do you have a reserve? Jan 12 02:57:23 HAHA a compiling farm Jan 12 02:57:24 eelriverlt: No :( Jan 12 02:57:29 ouch Jan 12 02:57:39 Kyle_S, I was reading somewhere where you didn't need a modchip.. Jan 12 02:57:40 eelriverlt: I don't wanna get less than 100$ for it and all the kit. Right now I'm killing myself over it. Jan 12 02:57:54 Straterra_: Wonder if you could cluster PS2's Jan 12 02:57:59 i want to pick up an old RS6000 Jan 12 02:58:00 Straterra_: to boot off of other linux dvds? Sweet tell me how! Jan 12 02:58:00 Dominian, I don't see why not Jan 12 02:58:14 Kyle_S, I don't know..I was just reading up on it about a month ago. LoL Jan 12 02:58:25 bbl Jan 12 02:58:39 Straterra_: of course what is so lame is you don't need a modchip or even a DVD to boot into "PS2 BB", which comes with the BB units...and "PS2 BB" is a freakin linux distro! Jan 12 02:58:40 I know with the Xbox you have to mode the controller ends for a keyboard and mouse Jan 12 02:58:49 yes Jan 12 02:58:52 im going to mod my xbox soon, i have to become more comfy with soldering Jan 12 02:58:55 Dominian: because its usb with a funky connector? Jan 12 02:59:00 yup Jan 12 02:59:01 Kyle_S, LoL Jan 12 02:59:06 too ad you can't mod a ps1 Jan 12 02:59:17 cause thats all i got Jan 12 02:59:20 LoL Jan 12 02:59:21 You can Jan 12 02:59:25 OhMyAchinLap-> i think you can Jan 12 02:59:31 You can mod the PSX for playing DVD's and stuff Jan 12 02:59:40 --> spenser (~spenser@user-0c8hmse.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 02:59:42 now i know that the xbox controllers are "USB" controllers, but how can it be considered USB if the connectors are different? Jan 12 02:59:43 right Jan 12 02:59:46 to play import games Jan 12 02:59:47 not to run linux though Jan 12 02:59:47 Straterra_: I know, its just crazy. But last I read there was still no way to hack that nad use that as your OS instead (and the cool thing is even with the BB-linux-whatever installed, you can still play games!) Jan 12 02:59:55 darkarcon2015: usb bus Jan 12 03:00:00 darkarcon2015: usb protocol, same number of wires. Jan 12 03:00:00 darkarcon2015: xbox is basically a mini-pc Jan 12 03:00:06 ahh Jan 12 03:00:08 Kyle_S, still play games? Niiiice Jan 12 03:00:14 darkarcon2015-> yea, kinda like firewire has 15 different types Jan 12 03:00:15 which.. I'm going to rip the haddrive out when the xbox finally dies Jan 12 03:00:17 and the processor Jan 12 03:00:20 HAHAH i know Jan 12 03:00:21 i knew kids who modifed their ps1's for imports Jan 12 03:00:24 Doesn't X-Box run some off the wall janky Windows OS? Jan 12 03:00:28 Straterra_: I know...which is why I REALLY want to see if the BB software is hackable. Jan 12 03:00:34 its windows CE Jan 12 03:00:41 stripped down, i think Jan 12 03:00:41 CE? Jan 12 03:00:45 yeah don't get an Xbox Jan 12 03:00:48 I regret getting it now Jan 12 03:00:48 i head it uses some modded cersion of 98 Jan 12 03:00:50 its windows JY (janky) Jan 12 03:00:50 Like..what does on those tablet PC's? Jan 12 03:00:52 xbox rocks Jan 12 03:00:58 Straterra_: And ofcourse whatever X server is on the BB software is head and heels above what comes with the sony blessed linux distro. Jan 12 03:00:59 not ce Jan 12 03:00:59 dude.. xbox sucks Jan 12 03:01:01 Dominian, I love my PS2...never gotten mad at her Jan 12 03:01:06 i modded mine and i don't know what i would do without it Jan 12 03:01:06 He he Jan 12 03:01:07 her.. Jan 12 03:01:07 Yeah Jan 12 03:01:13 I mean yeah it's cool at first.. till all your games start saying "disc dirty or damaged" Jan 12 03:01:21 darkarcon2015: no it doesn't use a modded version of 98, or WinCE, it uses a special version of 2k. Jan 12 03:01:27 Dominian, compared to what? ps2? you have to be joking. Jan 12 03:01:28 ohh Jan 12 03:01:33 i wish it used retail ME Jan 12 03:01:35 spenser: hey i like the PS2 Jan 12 03:01:38 :D heck yeah Jan 12 03:01:41 uhh Windows ME sucks Jan 12 03:01:42 I think the DreamCast had a special version of WinCE that you could boot off of a CD and browse the web with. Jan 12 03:01:47 If the xbox had ME on it.. I would burn it Jan 12 03:01:52 winME rox! (jk) Jan 12 03:01:52 http://cs.uic.edu/~lso/RIP240SX.AVI Jan 12 03:01:54 lol Jan 12 03:01:56 windows migrane edition Jan 12 03:02:03 Dominian, i have had mine for a long time now and i never had a disc error. besides. i play most of my games off my main server Jan 12 03:02:05 lol Jan 12 03:02:10 <-- buzzedlightyear has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 03:02:20 ps2 is just to limiting, and the graphics aren't as good. Jan 12 03:02:26 * Dominian shrugs Jan 12 03:02:28 to each their own Jan 12 03:02:34 which is why free enterprise is great Jan 12 03:02:39 and why I need a smoke Jan 12 03:02:41 W|GG-Laptop: yowzers. Howd the people inside do? Jan 12 03:02:41 * W|GG-Laptop doesn't mind the ps2 Jan 12 03:02:42 i have an xbox, but i usually just buy the games for PC, they are almost always on PC also Jan 12 03:02:44 yeah, one can fit a whole game dvd onto an xbox 10gb drive Jan 12 03:02:45 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 03:02:48 Kyle_S, i've no idea Jan 12 03:02:49 <-- octavious has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 12 03:02:50 lol Jan 12 03:02:56 W|GG-Laptop: sick bastard Jan 12 03:02:57 --> Outpour (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:03:00 that girl screaming scared the crap out of me Jan 12 03:03:00 W|GG-Laptop: hear anything back yet? Jan 12 03:03:00 * Kyle_S watches again Jan 12 03:03:02 oh crap... Jan 12 03:03:05 * Kyle_S nods Jan 12 03:03:09 * Kyle_S watches it again. Jan 12 03:03:10 it's the first episode of the new battle start galactica Jan 12 03:03:12 what is that video? Jan 12 03:03:17 W|GG-Laptop: your just sick for thinkging thats funny. Jan 12 03:03:18 s/start/star Jan 12 03:03:18 oh Jan 12 03:03:21 my wife was like, wtf are you doing? Jan 12 03:03:26 mplayer -vo x11 -loop 0 Jan 12 03:03:28 oops. Jan 12 03:03:29 ximpul, you can fit a couple games on a 10gig drive. i have a 120gig drive. plus my xbox is networked with my server. Jan 12 03:03:31 ;) Jan 12 03:03:41 spenser: nice Jan 12 03:03:42 someone on a car IRC channel showed the link Jan 12 03:03:47 --> opencode (~ksdjfhjkh@80-15.dedicado.com.uy) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:03:51 <-- Straterra has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 12 03:03:54 spacey_ki-> arent the dvds 4.7gb? Jan 12 03:03:56 kyle, arent you supposed to be .jp Jan 12 03:03:57 --> Corepoint (~Corepoint@S01060006258c1f14.cg.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:03:58 ? Jan 12 03:04:07 Redb3ard: he's back now Jan 12 03:04:09 http://www.hsvracing.com/~upload/TightAsAMug/TTA-vs-supra.avi Jan 12 03:04:10 ximpul, if it's full, but not all games take 4.7gb Jan 12 03:04:13 that one is big Jan 12 03:04:16 Redb3ard: nah man, I came home since my contract was up. Jan 12 03:04:17 ximpul, some take 2 Jan 12 03:04:20 spacey_ki-> ah Jan 12 03:04:27 spacey_ki-> wasteful Jan 12 03:04:43 i use every damn byte i can on a cd/dvd Jan 12 03:04:58 why? they are cheap as hell. Jan 12 03:05:01 W|GG-Laptop: you watch battlestar galactica? Jan 12 03:05:05 is there a way to find out all the dependencies i need for kde, I installed all the files from the KDE directory on ththe ftp but i still need more it seems Jan 12 03:05:06 well i gotta go, see ya later Jan 12 03:05:12 spenser-> im cheaper! (as hell) Jan 12 03:05:14 <-- darkarcon2015 has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 03:05:20 Dominian, the miniseries, yeah Jan 12 03:05:40 the series started? Jan 12 03:05:47 sci fi Jan 12 03:05:50 W|GG-Laptop: damnit :/ because I'm on a ppc box I can't use the codec dlls, so I can't see that last one. Jan 12 03:06:14 two cars drag racing on the streets, that's all Jan 12 03:06:20 smoke break Jan 12 03:06:20 * Kyle_S nods Jan 12 03:06:31 W|GG-Laptop: its just one of those things that pisses me off is all ;) Jan 12 03:06:36 when working on this box anyway. Jan 12 03:06:56 lol Jan 12 03:07:10 how do i go about running this wireless startup script i got it is name rc.mywireless Jan 12 03:08:36 Fishboy-> read the comments in the file Jan 12 03:08:50 # This script is a modified '/etc/pcmcia/wireless' script # 09/apr/2004 by Eric Hameleers Jan 12 03:08:55 <-- Tukon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 03:09:00 --> BiGi (~XXXL@c3eea6219.cable.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:09:54 --> repressedeath (repressede@24-56-183-90.wi.warpdriveonline.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:09:57 --> IronBob (~ironbob@adsl-208-191-166-220.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:09:58 <-- fsk1 (~chino@pcp09995929pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) has left ##slackware Jan 12 03:10:07 --- opencode is now known as opencode_away Jan 12 03:10:08 --- nixor sets ban on *away!*@* Jan 12 03:10:08 <-- nixor has kicked opencode_away from ##slackware (banned: Please disable all broadcasting away messages. Do not put away messages within your nick: nick-away, nick-zzz, nick-afk, nick-goingtothestore. Some regular visitors put "-work" after their nicks, as they IRC from their jobs, which is fine.) Jan 12 03:10:38 western digital needs to die Jan 12 03:10:41 twice Jan 12 03:10:53 seagate! Jan 12 03:11:01 And Quantum Did Jan 12 03:11:07 how do I configure WindowMaker without starting it? Jan 12 03:11:10 i'm never buying a WD drive again Jan 12 03:11:17 IronBob: hehe Jan 12 03:11:21 okmeufilho: hand edit the config file Jan 12 03:11:36 this is the 2nd time a WD digital drive has died on me in less than half a year Jan 12 03:11:37 ximpul it doesnt say how to start it Jan 12 03:12:01 IronBob: isn't it still under warantee? Jan 12 03:12:07 ya, fortunately Jan 12 03:12:25 ximpul: http://vayne.fdns.net/files/rc.wireless theres the script Jan 12 03:12:26 but i don't want to replace my hd and reinstall my entire linux system every 6 months or so Jan 12 03:12:38 IronBob, makes that 2 of us. :) Jan 12 03:12:39 Ne1 Know About evilentity? Jan 12 03:12:51 back later Jan 12 03:12:52 <-- Dominian has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 03:12:57 * keanne never has any success on wd drives Jan 12 03:13:27 this 60GB (1 of 2 drives) WD drive is the 1st drive i got, it's what my dad got me when i first built this computer Jan 12 03:13:31 --> Nomius (~Nomius@host190.201-252-214.telecom.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:13:33 about half a year ago it just STOPPED Jan 12 03:13:37 suddenly died Jan 12 03:13:44 IronBob: true. Jan 12 03:13:50 so i got an RMA and they replaced it Jan 12 03:13:52 /etc/pcmcia/wireless has your answer Fishboy Jan 12 03:14:09 today i get home from school, turn on the comp and i hear all this screwed up clicking and spinning Jan 12 03:14:11 Did it start clicking on you or just quit Jan 12 03:14:17 # This script is invoked automatically by the network script; it should # not be executed by hand. Jan 12 03:14:17 then my BIOS doesn't see either of my hd's Jan 12 03:14:29 anybody used the new aterm beta yet? Jan 12 03:14:42 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Sudbury-ppp330087.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:14:49 so i take out the WD to try and see if my maxtor works, thankfully it's fine Jan 12 03:15:02 luckily my maxtor is where i keep my /home Jan 12 03:15:11 <-- n2iko has quit ("leaving") Jan 12 03:15:19 where can I get KDE menu by hand? Jan 12 03:15:20 * IronBob praises maxtor and its superiority to wd Jan 12 03:15:31 okmeufilho: in .kde/share/apps i think Jan 12 03:15:42 hitachi!!! Jan 12 03:15:52 no.... Jan 12 03:15:56 hitachi=laptop Jan 12 03:15:59 .kde/apps/share? Jan 12 03:16:04 IronBob: well, when you get the new one, ebay it ;) and use the proceeds to pay for 1/4 of a good seagate drive. Jan 12 03:16:05 <-- dadexter has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 03:16:06 ximpul that didnt answer my question at all heh...unless i missed something but i was told to do something with that script in rc.local and so far im not sure how that works Jan 12 03:16:18 Kyle: i plan on selling it Jan 12 03:16:24 i'm not using another damn WD Jan 12 03:16:50 hehehe Jan 12 03:16:54 so... my slackware install was wiped clean Jan 12 03:17:00 was the drive over 120gb? Jan 12 03:17:00 and now i'm in knoppix :D Jan 12 03:17:01 <-- ^M has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 12 03:17:06 Fishboy-> ok. the network script calls your wireless script and runs it for you, do not run by hand, if you really really want to run it by hand, ./rc.script works Jan 12 03:17:07 repressedeath: 60G Jan 12 03:17:21 ah-hah Jan 12 03:17:23 i've never had a problem with WD Jan 12 03:17:30 or Maxtor really Jan 12 03:17:34 or Seagate Jan 12 03:17:39 OhMyAchinLap: maxtor is fine, WD is evil Jan 12 03:17:42 i have primarily WD stuff though Jan 12 03:17:53 two 120GB, a 250GB and a 160GB Jan 12 03:18:05 why do you need that much space? Jan 12 03:18:08 what do you work with? Jan 12 03:18:11 all runnign in fileservers, some for several years non-stop, getting ehavy use Jan 12 03:18:14 how do I edit KDE menu by hand? Jan 12 03:18:18 ah, ok Jan 12 03:18:27 IornBob: I've had problems with a 200g not wanting to be seen over 120g and when it did It Went click Crazy Jan 12 03:18:30 i buy drives whenever they are rebated heavily for file storage Jan 12 03:18:37 okmeufilho: like how you edit anything else by hand, find the config file and open it in a text editor Jan 12 03:18:47 my 150GB is formatted as one large XFS partition, works fine Jan 12 03:19:00 i don't boot off anything that large though, those are strictly storage Jan 12 03:19:17 okmeufilho-> right click the K button and select menu editor Jan 12 03:19:23 Its A Friends Drive And HE Wants NTSF But It Needs A PAtch Jan 12 03:19:23 OhMyAchinLap, i'm using xfs too and love it. of course i run more than one partition. Jan 12 03:19:35 "NTFS" Jan 12 03:19:43 <-- JackaLX has quit ("Read error: 666 (Connection reset by Satan)") Jan 12 03:19:52 Satan Rules Jan 12 03:19:55 i've been a big fan of XFS so far Jan 12 03:19:57 i have to separate my var, tmp, home, user, and boot partitions. Jan 12 03:20:08 there is no reason to run NTFS unless you're using windows of course Jan 12 03:20:11 XFS Formats Fast Jan 12 03:20:34 spenser, this is file storage. all of those things run off a small 4GB scsi drive Jan 12 03:20:38 * ximpul wonders whats the best filesystem for recovering from errors Jan 12 03:20:44 OhMyAchinLap: He Won't Leave Winblows Jan 12 03:20:51 ximpul, any journaling system Jan 12 03:21:01 OhMyAchinLap-> ah but which? Jan 12 03:21:01 jfs, xfs, ext3, reiser Jan 12 03:21:03 i like scsi Jan 12 03:21:18 --> soapman (~jlsoper@user-0caldv2.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:21:20 resier and xfs are probably the best choices these days Jan 12 03:21:27 ext3 has issues Jan 12 03:21:28 <-- toshin has quit ("-") Jan 12 03:21:30 reiser Jan 12 03:21:31 well Jan 12 03:21:33 its slower Jan 12 03:21:38 yah Jan 12 03:21:53 --> JackaLX (~steve@JackaLX.project-lead.sxemacs) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:21:55 ext2 on slower machines Jan 12 03:21:57 <-- soapman (~jlsoper@user-0caldv2.cable.mindspring.com) has left ##slackware Jan 12 03:22:09 <-- thr1ce has quit ("BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") Jan 12 03:22:13 yeah, i ran a fsck.reiserfs --rebuild=tree the other day and it wasnt so bad Jan 12 03:22:21 *-tree Jan 12 03:22:42 * W|GG-Laptop has never had a problem with ext3 or 2 Jan 12 03:22:48 --> At0mic_PC (1000@216.78.69.38) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:22:57 /dev support in the kernel (which says obsolete) is static /devs, right? Jan 12 03:23:08 no Jan 12 03:23:12 that's devfs Jan 12 03:23:16 you want udev Jan 12 03:23:17 so, is evil entity slackware? Jan 12 03:23:24 i ALWAYS pick ext3 and if i don't have a choice, i throw away that distro's install disk Jan 12 03:23:35 W|GG-Laptop: I've never had a problem with ext2/3 either, but XFS and JFS are SOOO much faster for checking/creation/moving and lots of other things. Jan 12 03:23:46 W|GG-Laptop: I HAVE had resierfs problems though, so I avoid that one ;) Jan 12 03:23:59 W|GG-Laptop, its not that theres a problem, they are just slower Jan 12 03:24:00 same Jan 12 03:24:19 ext2/3 that is Jan 12 03:24:31 i've also seen definte space savings with reiser and xfs Jan 12 03:24:43 abput 10% Jan 12 03:24:50 What do I compile into the kernel for udev support? Jan 12 03:25:02 less frag. ? Jan 12 03:25:11 --> Caoster (1000@69.17.112.194) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:25:12 W|GG-Laptop: actually I've run xfs on old drives that ended up with a (mostly) recoverable crash. the filenames were messedup but almost all my data was recoverable with XFS. For shits and giggles I retried it with JFS and reiserfs and ext2. Jan 12 03:25:14 --> TheBeast_ (~betzivu@dsl-66-225-165-10.vianet.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:25:19 --> thr1ce (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:25:25 <-- Xgates has quit ("Ping Timeout ( 0 Seconds )") Jan 12 03:25:30 W|GG-Laptop: for recovering from a crash jfs > xfs > ext3 >> resierfs. Jan 12 03:25:36 if i have a process running in a terminal window in x, and x server crashes Jan 12 03:25:45 is the process still going? Jan 12 03:25:48 Kyle_S, i haven't used JFS...what are the pros/cons Jan 12 03:25:49 --- TheBeast_ is now known as TheBeast Jan 12 03:26:04 Caoster, only if you backgroudned it Jan 12 03:26:08 <-- TheBeast (~betzivu@dsl-66-225-165-10.vianet.ca) has left ##slackware Jan 12 03:26:16 the only journaling filesystem that actually jacked up my install to the point to where i had to wipe everything was reiser Jan 12 03:26:21 Caoster, i highly reccomend using "screen" in terminals Jan 12 03:26:24 --> TheBeast (~betzivu@dsl-66-225-165-10.vianet.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:26:39 hi Jan 12 03:26:57 OhMyAchinLap: it appears the process is still running Jan 12 03:27:02 what should the gateway address of a host computer be? Jan 12 03:27:05 but i don't tell people it sucks or that something is better. i just let people decide on their own Jan 12 03:27:14 how do i get it reconnected to a terminal for seeing the output? Jan 12 03:27:19 I Use QTparter Off Of A Knoppix Live Before Any Install So I Can Use Any FS I Want Jan 12 03:27:21 W|GG-Laptop, was it old Reiser? Jan 12 03:27:25 Old Reiser was TERRIBLE Jan 12 03:27:28 OhMyAchinLap: the pros: its designed by ibm, its fast, its goot REALLY good journaling, it takes seconds to fsck. The cons, if it isn't cleanly unmounted it demands you fsck it to mount (thats not too bad since it takes it less than 2sec when that happens ususaly), its not AS fast as xfs on dealing with large files, and not AS fast as resierfs at dealing with small files (but its still pretty fast at both). IMO its a very well balanaced Jan 12 03:27:35 yeah Jan 12 03:27:46 yowzas I need to work on my spelling... or drink less. Jan 12 03:27:49 Lazy I Am Some Days Jan 12 03:27:57 Old Reiser was full of bugs.. Jan 12 03:28:25 <-- spenser has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 03:28:42 why is Slack is so great? Jan 12 03:28:42 Whats faster vfat or ext2 Jan 12 03:28:47 <-- At0mic_PC has quit ("Client exciting") Jan 12 03:28:50 repressedeath: ext2 Jan 12 03:28:55 I've been reading the manual for the crontab, but jsut to make sure before I mess something up, crontab -e root mv /home/gartt/Desktop/school/* /usr/local/apache2/htdocs/school/ is right? Jan 12 03:29:08 <-- dwolf has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 03:29:31 But I want it to do that every 5 mins Jan 12 03:29:34 Kyle_S: Thanx Jan 12 03:30:00 OhMyAchinLap: oh yea I have to add ONE big pro to reiserfs that none of the other modern linux filesystems can claim, it supports the badblocks program, just like ext2 and ext3 do. Jan 12 03:30:41 OhMyAchinLap: jfs and xfs don't. Of course this is only usefull if you have to use a drive with some major problems, but its nice when dealing with old hardware. Jan 12 03:30:50 Kyle_S, i've always wondered, what is consdiered a "small file" and a "large file" these days? Jan 12 03:31:21 <-- newbie`` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 03:31:32 OhMyAchinLap: look at all the files in /etc. or all the keymaps and zone files. They are tiney, and on oldfashioned filesystems they can take alot more overhead for creation moving and deleting. Jan 12 03:31:39 <-- idaho45 has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 03:31:42 699mb AVG Jan 12 03:31:50 what about "large"? Jan 12 03:31:52 2G Big Jan 12 03:31:58 OhMyAchinLap: on the other hand, try holding a 5gb file on an oldfashioned filesystem, much less creating it, moving it copying it deleting it. Jan 12 03:32:07 i don't have many 5GB files Jan 12 03:32:22 but i have a lot that are around 700MB -1GB Jan 12 03:32:23 <-- Caoster has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 12 03:32:33 isos and such Jan 12 03:32:34 OhMyAchinLap: if you deal with video its not uncommon. Hell even 1 and 2 gig files are hard for ext2/3 at times. Jan 12 03:32:40 i guess those are considered large Jan 12 03:32:57 OhMyAchinLap: I think XFS was designed with video editing in mind, as it was designed by and for SGI. Jan 12 03:33:01 i've been runnign XFS on all the fileserve drives Jan 12 03:33:07 heh its nice. Jan 12 03:33:08 and Reiser for my workstation Jan 12 03:33:19 JFS sounds interesting as well though Jan 12 03:33:22 I Don't Spend To Much Time Downloading Anything Over 800mb Jan 12 03:33:35 I might consider making /home JFS Jan 12 03:33:45 and leave /var and / resier Jan 12 03:33:54 Not Unless Its A Pack Of Distro Disks Jan 12 03:34:07 OhMyAchinLap: might as well give it a shot. Its good to experiment. Jan 12 03:34:13 NUIAPODD Jan 12 03:34:16 * OhMyAchinLap hands represseddeath some lowercase letters Jan 12 03:34:19 no p0rn? (jk) Jan 12 03:34:27 repressedeath: as far as mottos go NUIAPODD isn't very good.... doens' treally flow. Jan 12 03:34:44 okay Jan 12 03:34:46 --> dwolf (~unknown@dwolf.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:34:55 i kep my distro disks in a nuiapodd Jan 12 03:35:04 repressedeath: Not Unless Downloading a Distro Enviornment Jan 12 03:35:10 repressedeath: NUDDE. Thats a better motto. Jan 12 03:35:15 agreed Jan 12 03:35:17 ;) Jan 12 03:35:53 hello again. im trying to setup my wireless connection. i have the script that i should need it runs at boot at returns a few errors Jan 12 03:35:55 I'm confused after reading the crontab man- should I add a task with crontab -e root blahblah, or should I use the .daily/.hourly, etc crons? Jan 12 03:36:23 Error for wirless request "Set Frequency" (8B04) : SET failed on device eth0 ; Device or resource busy. netmask: Host name lookup failure SIOCSIFADDR: Invalid argument Jan 12 03:37:04 Gartt: its a matter of taste. I leave the daily monthly hourly minutely crap alone (there are deafult jobs in there that are quite usefull), and enter all my own through crontab -e Jan 12 03:37:10 <-- xemon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 03:37:18 Fishboy, are you using 8k stacks in the kernel? Jan 12 03:38:05 Straterra_ if i knew i would tell u Jan 12 03:38:07 i am new at this Jan 12 03:38:16 no idea how to do much of anything Jan 12 03:38:22 Default Slackware kernel> Jan 12 03:38:25 ?^ Jan 12 03:38:26 yes Jan 12 03:38:28 Kyle_S-> its good to put up the legend of daily monthly hourly minutely crap atop the crontab file Jan 12 03:38:32 slack 10.0 Jan 12 03:38:34 I see Kyle, so go straight to crontab -e? I see how to set times, but are all the crontab tasks run from boot by default? Right now, all I'm trying to do is mv /home/gartt/Desktop/school/* /usr/local/apache2/htdocs/school/ every 5 mins Jan 12 03:38:38 You may need to recompile the kernel Jan 12 03:38:42 --> PiterPunk (~punk@200.234.104.191) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:38:49 sounds fun Jan 12 03:38:50 Kyle_S/OhMyAchinLa: Do you 2 think evil entity is slop Jan 12 03:38:52 ximpul: agreed, they make great examples for when you cant remember the syntax ;) Jan 12 03:38:55 if only i knew how to... Jan 12 03:39:05 repressedeath: evil entitiy? Jan 12 03:39:06 Fishboy, lemme fetch a tutorial I wrote Jan 12 03:39:29 http://slackwiki.org/Kernel_Compilation Jan 12 03:39:48 Gartt-> # min hour day-of-month month day-of-week command Jan 12 03:39:55 Gartt-> theres the legend Jan 12 03:39:55 the way im doing this is im trying to get on it with wep encryption enabled Jan 12 03:40:05 Ah Jan 12 03:40:09 Fishboy, ndiswrapper? Jan 12 03:40:10 so i have a separite script that runs at boot from /etc/rc.d i guess Jan 12 03:40:17 come again? Jan 12 03:40:18 heh Jan 12 03:40:25 The card may not have support for the WEP in Linux Jan 12 03:40:28 http://www.evilentity.com/ Jan 12 03:40:28 now lemme scroll up to find your times Jan 12 03:40:37 thanks ximpul Jan 12 03:40:40 its a dell truemobile 1150 Jan 12 03:40:44 Fishboy, is the card natively supported or are you using ndiswrapper/driverloader to "emulate" the Windows NDIS to get it to work? Jan 12 03:41:00 Gartt-> what are the times listed? Jan 12 03:41:25 <-- Squall` has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 03:41:32 i believe what i was told before was that i had a module for the card running Jan 12 03:41:35 orinoco_cs Jan 12 03:42:00 and then someone in here gave me a script to run to setup it up nice and easy Jan 12 03:42:07 http://vayne.fdns.net/files/rc.wireless Jan 12 03:42:19 mmm, tell me a good 10/100 NIC. I mean the chipset. I have to change mine as fast as I can, and i need a suggestion Jan 12 03:42:19 Aaah Jan 12 03:42:21 Ok then Jan 12 03:42:27 The card may not have WEP support then Jan 12 03:42:31 it does Jan 12 03:42:34 well Jan 12 03:42:37 nvm i take that back Jan 12 03:42:44 is does under winblows Jan 12 03:43:10 --> Davetha|400mhz (~dave@Toronto-HSE-ppp3906557.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:43:20 TheBeast, RealTek cards have NEVER given me problem Jan 12 03:43:42 Hey guys im having a little bit of problems with iptables, I want to 'mark' any entire IP address. Jan 12 03:43:45 And every RealTek card I have ever owned has been auto detected in Win98SE and higher, and most all Linux kernels (with support compiled in) Jan 12 03:43:50 i prefer to call them realcrap Jan 12 03:43:56 i've a realtek based card that sucks anus Jan 12 03:44:01 Oooh? Jan 12 03:44:11 can someone give me a hand? Jan 12 03:44:13 dlink dwl650 rev M Jan 12 03:44:14 --> xemon (~zxemon@65.171.164.98) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:44:14 My RealTek cards are nice.. Jan 12 03:44:27 I have everything but the ip part done. Jan 12 03:44:28 Straterra_ can i pm you please? unless your busy then its ok Jan 12 03:44:32 I have a new 3com card that does fine.. Jan 12 03:44:37 Fishboy, why PM? Jan 12 03:44:44 <-- nullvalue (~echelon@ool-43576ba8.dyn.optonline.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 03:44:49 Ask your question or whatever in here, other people may have ideas Jan 12 03:44:58 we already heard my question heh Jan 12 03:45:05 He Jan 12 03:45:07 10/100/1000BaseT Broadcom :) Jan 12 03:45:09 Gartt-> i think the entry to your crontab will be Jan 12 03:45:15 Okay if my I am missing usb-storage.o and ehci.0 what can I do? Jan 12 03:45:17 Gartt-> (building suspense) Jan 12 03:45:17 keanne, Are you serious? Jan 12 03:45:24 I wouldn't suggest Broadcom to my worse enemy Jan 12 03:45:25 drumroll Jan 12 03:45:26 ? Jan 12 03:45:28 :( Jan 12 03:45:40 repressedeath : did you compile the kernel yourself? Jan 12 03:45:46 nope Jan 12 03:45:56 do i need to recompile it myself? Jan 12 03:46:04 ok it would be */5 * * * * Jan 12 03:46:07 repressedeath : nope. they should be part of standard kernel-modules package Jan 12 03:46:20 Straterra_, of course Jan 12 03:46:22 repressedeath : grep usb-storage.o /var/log/packages/* Jan 12 03:46:31 they are missing Jan 12 03:46:39 i think alot of dell cards are broadcom based Jan 12 03:46:40 every 5 minutes Jan 12 03:46:47 repressedeath : well, what did you do to them? Jan 12 03:46:49 ananke, going to do the 2.6 -current? Jan 12 03:46:58 lunch Jan 12 03:47:02 thr1ce : yeah, eventually. i'm being lazy tonight Jan 12 03:47:02 <-- Straterra_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 03:47:27 ananke, you might end up just making what will be 10.1 Jan 12 03:48:06 thr1ce : from what pat mentioned in the changelog, 2.6.x won't be standard until 11.0 [at least from how things look like now] Jan 12 03:48:11 i was about to ask him/her why, but he left :) Jan 12 03:48:13 <-- Enigma-- has quit () Jan 12 03:48:53 oh, about keeping 2.4 around for a while longer? Jan 12 03:49:38 Humm. Is there a way to mount a generic filesystem (IE any filesystem type) while ignoring the userid and groupid on the files inside of it? Jan 12 03:49:39 2.4 isn't that bad Jan 12 03:49:39 ananke, would you have to compile one, or just use the one in /testing Jan 12 03:49:58 thr1ce : i'd be using one from /testing Jan 12 03:50:11 repressedeath : nobody said it was. it just lacks things. Jan 12 03:50:28 so.... Jan 12 03:50:40 i start my job at Cypress Gardens saturday morning. heh. Jan 12 03:50:49 acidkill: cool. doing what? Jan 12 03:51:16 gardening, what else :) Jan 12 03:51:22 ananke: Ahh. Jan 12 03:51:22 IT support for everything, ie, ticket kiosks, turnstyles, cash registers. they are all XP based. Jan 12 03:51:38 lol Jan 12 03:51:45 sounds tought :P Jan 12 03:51:48 tough* Jan 12 03:51:59 they MIS guy said they would be getting some linux servers for backups and monitoring in a few months, so i hope to slide over to that as well. Jan 12 03:52:12 turnstyles are OS powered??? Jan 12 03:52:15 Hey, anyone wanna buy an ipaq? Heh my e-bay auction is still going... AND if you buy it I'll even put the linux-bootloader on it, so you can boot wince off of the rom and linux off of a cf card! Jan 12 03:52:18 apparently, yes. lol. Jan 12 03:52:23 * Kyle_S sighs, damnit, I need money. Jan 12 03:52:26 --> XGizzmo (~gizzmo@xgizzmo.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:52:30 hack all the xp's back to the leagacy desktop and watch the managers flop Jan 12 03:52:31 so do i Jan 12 03:52:32 hehe Jan 12 03:52:33 from what it sounds like, it is a Dell box with a SUB barcode scanner. Jan 12 03:52:43 er, USB. Jan 12 03:52:48 Wiedi: you have a job ;) I don't now Jan 12 03:52:52 --> hebner_hyde (~aassas@219.94.70.174) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 03:53:00 --- hebner_hyde is now known as newidiot Jan 12 03:53:06 i need MORE money Jan 12 03:53:14 W|GG-Laptop: sell your liver? Jan 12 03:53:19 its a job in the line of work i want, so ill take it. Jan 12 03:53:20 ouch Jan 12 03:53:23 money + wife + kids == NO $$$ Jan 12 03:53:37 you might need that if you plan a life of drinking Jan 12 03:53:46 W|GG-Laptop: I see... Jan 12 03:53:47 * XGizzmo mails W|GG-Laptop a freshly made franklin Jan 12 03:53:52 W|GG-Laptop: how about selling the wife and or kids? Jan 12 03:53:57 i'd replace my liver with an aquarium filter Jan 12 03:54:01 atleast the kids Jan 12 03:54:26 they make good pets to druglords i hear Jan 12 03:54:28 hehe Jan 12 03:54:49 W|GG-Laptop: when I was in philippines and thailand..and hell even Japan, there were plenty of rental wives walking arround. I'm sure they would welcome a rent-to-own situation if you wanted them longer term too. Jan 12 03:55:01 lol!! Jan 12 03:55:22 lol...low mileage only though Jan 12 03:55:26 :oP Jan 12 03:55:40 W|GG-Laptop: woudln't you get arrested bringing a low milage one into the states? Jan 12 03:55:45 rust on the body is rough on the eyes Jan 12 03:55:47 hmmm, i just opened mozilla and forgot what i was about to do Jan 12 03:55:48 I mean with the age theyre rumored to start.... Jan 12 03:55:50 i need to check to see if they accept trade-ins Jan 12 03:55:57 hehe Jan 12 03:56:07 lol Jan 12 03:57:21 pause Jan 12 03:57:27 ok...i'm gonna take a dive into my bead Jan 12 03:57:33 er Jan 12 03:57:35 bed Jan 12 03:57:37 dayam Jan 12 03:57:50 nite WIGG Jan 12 03:58:10 nite man Jan 12 03:58:16 * W|GG-Laptop goes idle Jan 12 03:58:24 heh night W|GG-Laptop Jan 12 03:58:52 need another die coke Jan 12 04:00:01 Kyle_S: what linux you on now Jan 12 04:00:13 repressedeath: crux-ppc. But its a version or so old. Jan 12 04:00:25 repressedeath: there is no solid slack port to ppc right now ;) Jan 12 04:00:38 mmm, slack on a ppc Jan 12 04:00:49 <-- Cirkit has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 04:00:56 would make lotsa ppl happy Jan 12 04:01:09 more lite that me Jan 12 04:01:14 e-lite Jan 12 04:01:36 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-216-79-253-93.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:01:37 --> ma (~m@CPE0004e23a0211-CM014500115762.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:01:48 Shaun2: well right now you have a whole lot of crap distros (LinuxPPC, YellowDog), a distro for wackos (gentoo), and crux. Jan 12 04:01:50 --> michaelks (~michael@200.217.244.37) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:02:27 <-- IronBob has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 04:02:30 no like fedora? Jan 12 04:02:47 im not about to run out and get a ppc, so im happy Jan 12 04:02:49 P Jan 12 04:02:50 :P Jan 12 04:03:00 although it would be nice to have slackware on a pda ;) Jan 12 04:03:16 Shaun2: at the time I bought this box, it was the cheapest laptop I could get new. Jan 12 04:04:05 mmmm kohina Jan 12 04:04:06 Kyle_S: do you game alot Jan 12 04:04:28 lol before I mess something up, can anyone tell me if this crontab looks ok? */5 * * * * mv /home/gartt/Desktop/school/* /usr/local/apache2/htdocs/school/ will hopefully move files every 5 mins? Jan 12 04:04:29 repressedeath: I had a ps2 for that. At the moment I have no x86 of my own, and no ps2 ;) so no gaming for me. Jan 12 04:05:04 what would be good enough? Jan 12 04:05:08 dont often see people refer to a pc as an x86 :P Jan 12 04:05:27 worx thou Jan 12 04:05:32 Gartt: generally looks right.... Jan 12 04:05:44 Generally? :P Jan 12 04:05:51 repressedeath: I use so many different archs, I find it easiest to classify them by proc. Jan 12 04:05:57 Gartt: lemmielook. Jan 12 04:06:43 anyone familar with setting up NAT on slack? Jan 12 04:07:08 --> spenser (~spenser@user-0c8hmse.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:07:42 Gartt: yea that looks right. Why is it not working or somefin? Jan 12 04:07:50 --> Linux_dude (~tux@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:07:50 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 04:08:34 --> Outpour (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:09:41 Gartt-> as long as the permissions are ok yeah it looks right Jan 12 04:11:11 --> Xgates (~Xgates@xgates.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:13:10 MacGuyver_, are u there? Jan 12 04:13:20 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:15:40 --> boerst` (~boerst@pD956321F.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:15:48 Sorry, to jump in and out, If I am missing modules under /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/usb Like the whole /storage directory and this kernel is i686 compiled is there a chance I could find them elsewhere Jan 12 04:16:09 <-- krao has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 04:17:01 oops sorry Kyle_S, left the comp- If it looks right, perfect, thanks. I just didn't run it yet, wanted to make sure it was correct first Jan 12 04:17:05 Thanks Jan 12 04:17:36 say this is a slackware based distro I Am under can I get precompiled mods i686 somewhere ftp maybe Jan 12 04:18:17 you can recompile for i686 using the slackbuild scripts, but from what some people say, it doesnt make much of a difference. Jan 12 04:18:27 Gartt: if it won't hurt anything if its not right, go ahead and test it on your own..but its always good to check first to make sure it wont hurt anything else ;) Jan 12 04:18:32 and it won't. so don't worry. Jan 12 04:18:51 repressedeath: did you build your own kernel? Jan 12 04:19:17 Kyle_S: No, I am on a i786 Jan 12 04:19:34 repressedeath: uhhh. Jan 12 04:19:44 --> chodapp (1000@blackbird-day-216-68-113-45.fuse.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:19:45 man, i'm missing out! Jan 12 04:19:58 so i would have to enter a compiler command? Jan 12 04:20:12 --> rony (~rony@66-50-99-132.prtc.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:20:26 what chip...? Jan 12 04:21:33 repressedeath: well if you didn't build your own kernel it would probably be a bit time consuming to just build those modules. just look in the packages cd for a modules package and see if theyre in there. Jan 12 04:21:33 <-- meta-ridley has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 04:21:40 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:22:35 well see the kernel was precompiled i686 and I want to compile or download precompiled missing mod but I am on a i786 so if indeed I need to compile would I need to enter in a compile command Jan 12 04:23:25 so I sould just be able to place them and be fine Jan 12 04:23:58 'should' Jan 12 04:25:38 Now, as long as they match my kernel and they are precompiled i686 could I use them from redhat or knoppix or from where ever Jan 12 04:25:41 you have a P4? Jan 12 04:26:08 repressedeath: First off, no processor is called an i786 afaik. Jan 12 04:26:14 acidkill; why? Jan 12 04:26:37 --> craig_ (~craig@hlfxns01bbg-142068111203.ns.aliant.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:26:56 <-- XGizzmo has quit ("going going gone") Jan 12 04:27:01 okay school me some Jan 12 04:27:10 p1 p2 p3 p4? Jan 12 04:27:31 I don't need to be confusing peeps Jan 12 04:27:44 repressedeath: second, yes its a good idea to build your own kernel, but you don't issue the compiler commands yourself. You use make. Once you have your kernel source you copy the .config out of the origonal kernel sourcetree (probably in /usr/src/linux/) into your new kernel directory, and issue the command, make oldconfig, and just hit enter a bunch of times as it prompts for stuff. Jan 12 04:28:22 repressedeath: p1=i586, pII/pIII=i686, athlon=k7, athlon-64/opteron=k8 :) Jan 12 04:28:48 --> SKOFFING (~SKOFF@200-101-110-239.bsace705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:28:50 repressedeath: p4 is ust p4. Jan 12 04:28:50 Whats a p4? Jan 12 04:28:56 repressedeath: errr just not ust Jan 12 04:28:59 p4 is a p3 core, IIRC. Jan 12 04:29:09 acidkill: you recall wrong buddy :) but thats ok. Jan 12 04:29:41 IIRI, if i recall incorrectly. =) Jan 12 04:30:00 so I'm only slightly comfussing things Jan 12 04:30:07 acidkill: the PII, celeron, celeronA, PIII, tutaltulan (or whatever its called) and the centrino all share a common core. The PIV was a compleete re/mis design. Jan 12 04:30:12 repressedeath: heh yup. Jan 12 04:30:24 i see. Jan 12 04:31:15 repressedeath: anyway after you hit enter abunch of times on make oldconfig, you type make menuconfig, and the options already chosen in there will be VERY close to the ones for the stock kernel. Just adjust them to fit. There is a kernel-build-howto out on the netsomewhere, and feel free to ask some qs here and in #kernel-newbies. Also be sure to read some of the help thats builtin to make menuconfig. Jan 12 04:31:29 iiri? iirc? what do those mean? Jan 12 04:31:32 acidkill: my knowing this is probably indicitive of the fact I have no life ;) Jan 12 04:31:54 its still pretty fun, no? Jan 12 04:32:27 Outpour: see if you have wtf installed (I'm not joking, there IS a util called wtf). It translates common acronyms. iirc=if i recall correctly Jan 12 04:32:34 --> superkitty (~chuck@c-24-11-81-82.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:32:38 Kyle_S: knowledge is power thanx for the jumper cables Jan 12 04:32:48 repressedeath: heh no problem. Jan 12 04:32:59 Kyle_S: hah thanks i'll check it out Jan 12 04:33:00 sweet, I have phpage. Jan 12 04:33:12 Outpour: NP. Ive found that little util to be both usefull and a hootl. Jan 12 04:33:15 s/hootl/hoot Jan 12 04:33:22 :D Jan 12 04:33:33 * Kyle_S slowly starts to teach himself php off of the docs. Jan 12 04:33:50 <-- boerst has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 04:34:48 How hard is it to get slackware up and running? Jan 12 04:35:03 Kyles_S: do you code some/ Jan 12 04:35:23 <-- newidiot has quit () Jan 12 04:35:47 repressedeath: usually C. Jan 12 04:35:57 ne development? Jan 12 04:36:02 kewl Jan 12 04:36:08 repressedeath: but I dable in other languages. However I need a job now, so I'm teaching myself php so I can add it to the resume. Jan 12 04:36:16 <-- ma has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 04:36:30 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:36:39 where did you work before? Jan 12 04:36:47 job type? Jan 12 04:37:32 repressedeath: well I just spent 1 year teaching english in Japan. That was fun, now I need a real job. I've worked alot of tech support type jobs before, and what I don't want, is another tech support job. Jan 12 04:37:45 <-- dwolf has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 04:38:09 Kyle_S: I Don't blame you. Jan 12 04:38:30 anyone know why when I use mencoder to convert my DV output to MJPEG, I can't seem to set the bit rate? No matter what bit rate I use, I get the same results... -lavcopts vcodec=mjpeg:vhq:vbitrate=50 Jan 12 04:38:37 gives the same as vbitrate=1800 Jan 12 04:38:49 repressedeath: hence me teaching myself php, and how to do basic sql calls from it. A webdev job isn't great, but it woudln't suck. Jan 12 04:39:01 I really don't like knowing the answer but having to bushwack things because of proceedures Jan 12 04:39:17 inflex: mjpeg and ljpeg in mencoder are special cases (though poorly documented) Jan 12 04:39:28 <-- Roa has quit ("a dormirrrrrrrrrrrrrr") Jan 12 04:39:32 Kyle_S: *sigh* Jan 12 04:39:43 Kyle_S: running into issues as a lot of people don't have DivX decoders Jan 12 04:39:49 inflex: I THINK after ljpeg came out mjpeg started being affected by vbitrate, but I'm not positive. Jan 12 04:40:20 inflex: Ugh. Trust me mjpeg is too damnd big to distribute video with. And I suppose telling to to encode wtih mpeg4 is giving the video players on their machines fits? Jan 12 04:40:35 Kyle_S, you still need that memory? Jan 12 04:40:41 HeatHawk: Yes. Jan 12 04:40:48 i might get it mailed friday Jan 12 04:41:14 Neat! Jan 12 04:41:22 lemmie know how much I owe you for the shipping. Jan 12 04:41:23 <-- Straterra has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 04:41:39 Kyle_S: haven't tried mpeg4 Jan 12 04:41:51 Kyle_S: just DivX and MJPEG Jan 12 04:41:58 Kyle_S: I'll try mpeg4 Jan 12 04:42:16 Kyle_S/inflex:why not xvid? Jan 12 04:42:19 inflex: try mpeg4, its generally higher quality anyways. Encoding is one area mencoder probably needs work in. Jan 12 04:42:28 oh joy :-\ Jan 12 04:42:39 repressedeath: want to use a format that's pretty universal Jan 12 04:42:46 Kyle_S, ok. They are 4 sticks with 4 chips per stick btw, dont know how much it is, im thinkin 16 megs Jan 12 04:42:52 repressedeath: there is xvid support in mencoder now, but I've never tried it, and xvid in mencoder is pretty new. Jan 12 04:42:53 ie, installed with Win with media-player ;-) Jan 12 04:42:58 HeatHawk: thats cool. Jan 12 04:43:00 divx should be able to play xvid Jan 12 04:43:19 inflex: I think the mpeg4 is fairly universal...but holdon lemmiesee Jan 12 04:43:23 repressedeath: I can do DivX without a problem - the problem is that not everyone has DivX :-( Jan 12 04:43:36 * Kyle_S encodes a minute of a documentery he capped. Jan 12 04:43:37 most linux tuts that I have read lean towards xvid Jan 12 04:43:55 <-- Cirkit has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 04:43:56 lol Jan 12 04:44:03 Kyle_S: you mean like msmpeg4 ? Jan 12 04:44:31 I see Jan 12 04:44:41 <-- superkitty (~chuck@c-24-11-81-82.client.comcast.net) has left ##slackware Jan 12 04:44:43 inflex: well there is msmpeg4, but I've never used it. Mpeg4 is pretty good. Hell try msmpeg4 or msmpeg4v2. maybe it'll play nicely on windos? Jan 12 04:45:17 mpeg4 is what I use by default (checking my scripts) Jan 12 04:45:19 that is DivX Jan 12 04:45:45 msmpeg4 otoh is 'DivX 3' Jan 12 04:45:50 I'll try msmpeg4v2 Jan 12 04:46:00 (wonder what 'wmv2' is like Jan 12 04:46:04 inflex: ahh. I know you can set a bunch of flags for lavc/mpeg4 that make it as reference as possible, but the problem is it might not set the flag in the avi properly to let eveyr player know its reference. Jan 12 04:46:06 who is everyone? Jan 12 04:46:28 repressedeath: XP, NT, W2K, 98 users ;-) Jan 12 04:46:30 'inflex' Jan 12 04:46:38 Linux users already can decode anything I give them :-P Jan 12 04:47:09 they are special like that :) Jan 12 04:47:10 --> viLeR (~miv@aurora.telesat.com.co) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:47:49 anyone familar with setting up NAT on slack? Jan 12 04:48:00 oooh, aaah, nasty, wmv2 encoding doesn't go so well with wmv2 Jan 12 04:48:02 --> Putz (~putz@ame-broadband2-ws-60.dsl.airstreamcomm.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:48:14 inflex: add vstrict=1 to lavcopts and it will make it reference. Jan 12 04:48:15 Windows Isn't that bad really but I Decided to switch because My isp was checking out the files on my puter Jan 12 04:48:19 Outpour: netfilter.org, howtos, nat howto Jan 12 04:48:28 <-- spenser has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 04:48:44 Kyle_S: hrmm... interesting Jan 12 04:49:05 repressedeath-> wha? how? Jan 12 04:49:05 inflex: maybe there is a way to tell the avi that its the reference, so it'll play with any codec? Jan 12 04:49:08 UdontKnow thanks Jan 12 04:49:22 now that I've linuxed they have called several times asking to come check on my modem because they think something is wrong Jan 12 04:49:25 * Kyle_S waits for the slow ass processor in his laptop to finsish its encode of 1 minute of video. Jan 12 04:49:33 Cable Jan 12 04:49:34 ugh Jan 12 04:50:11 --> ptlo (~senko@cmung8.cmu.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:50:13 repressedeath-> you're kidding right? who was your isp? the cia? Jan 12 04:50:17 Kyle_S: okay, adding the vstrict=1 to the DivX Jan 12 04:50:44 inflex: brb, gonna transfer the clip to the windos box. Jan 12 04:50:45 repressedeath and how could they view files on your comp? Jan 12 04:50:52 --> KruMn (~KloS@11tdev11.codetel.net.do) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:50:53 I am under u.s. cable but thier supplier is ..... Jan 12 04:51:51 warpdrive online Jan 12 04:51:54 thats them Jan 12 04:52:25 Kyle_S: strangely enough, on a machine I have here, win98SE, with only WMP7, I can view them Jan 12 04:52:32 that nt operating systems for you Jan 12 04:52:41 --> XGizzmo (~gizzmo@xgizzmo.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:52:43 as soon as I move to wMP8 or higher, it doesn't decode (wthout DivX) Jan 12 04:52:43 'thats' Jan 12 04:52:44 --> adjacent (~scott@63.209.153.101) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:52:46 amusing to me at least Jan 12 04:53:27 --> sagar (~sagar@user126-62.wireless.ocsnet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:53:50 the teminal sevices I deactivated and the built in user accounts I removed and firewalls so on and so on did me no goog Jan 12 04:53:55 'good' Jan 12 04:54:02 --> mtrisk (~mtrisk@lsanca1-ar55-4-65-122-097.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:54:44 inflex: is that with the vstrict=1? Jan 12 04:54:45 how can i mount a ro filesystem as somethign other than root?? Jan 12 04:54:56 hehe. Jan 12 04:55:12 inflex: I think wmp7 tried its default codec if it coudln't find an exact match. Jan 12 04:55:17 they sent a letter to me saying that a file on my computer could be accessable by an attacker. Jan 12 04:55:24 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 04:55:30 inflex: howbout the msmpegv2? It played fine on the win2k machine. Jan 12 04:55:55 it was the family man.avi Jan 12 04:55:59 inflex: And it encodes at a lightening fast ... 10 frames per second on my box :/ Jan 12 04:56:02 --> Outpour (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:56:24 * Kyle_S really NEEDS to get his boxes back. Jan 12 04:57:53 --> slowdude (~slowdude@cpe-24-92-103-19.elp.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 04:57:53 --- nixor sets ban on slowdude!~slowdude@*.elp.rr.com Jan 12 04:57:54 <-- nixor has kicked slowdude from ##slackware (banned:this isn't Pot 101, I asked you to refrain from drug chat and its laws...see me when you're ready to comply with op guidance) Jan 12 04:58:46 eep, I'm getting about real-time rates Jan 12 04:58:47 sagar: edit your fstab to include the option "user" so normal users can mount Jan 12 04:59:10 mtrisk i did that, and then i mounted it as a normal user, but i cant cd into the directory..it says i have no permissions Jan 12 04:59:11 windows is easy to hack and linux most me rarer in use because now I download non-stop and my activity lights never blink unless I am doing something. And now they arn't complaining about files on my drive ,maybe because they can't see them , but instead they complain that they want to check on my modem.... Jan 12 04:59:17 inflex: what cpu is in your box? Jan 12 04:59:26 Kyle_S: Duron 1300 Jan 12 04:59:28 'must be' Jan 12 04:59:30 * mtrisk thinks Jan 12 04:59:55 mtrisk..it's a ntfs filesystem.. does that have anyhitn to do with it Jan 12 05:00:12 sagar, yes Jan 12 05:00:13 inflex: that sounds about right. with the sse and mmx and 3dnow optimizations mplayer puts in, that 1300 is more than thrice the speed of my 900mhz g3. Jan 12 05:00:13 hehe Jan 12 05:00:14 sagar: yes Jan 12 05:00:17 not the fs but the nt os Jan 12 05:00:27 lol Jan 12 05:00:28 Kyle_S: scarey. Jan 12 05:00:40 mtrisk,keanne so i cant read it as a normal user? Jan 12 05:00:42 inflex: nahh, its just so sad that gcc optimizes so FSCKING poorly for g3. Jan 12 05:00:45 sagar, ntfs can only be accessed by root Jan 12 05:00:45 Kyle_S: I also have 1Gb of DDR memory - and doing it all on a 200Gb SATA WD 8Mb drive Jan 12 05:00:48 curses Jan 12 05:00:50 inflex: I think for g4 its better, but still not great. Jan 12 05:01:01 Kyle_S: true - how do you think the G5 will go? Jan 12 05:01:21 inflex: heh, I've found encoding speed doesn't seem to be closely tied to memory size .. Jan 12 05:01:50 where's the sudoers file Jan 12 05:02:16 inflex: not sure, I think apple poured a bit of their own money into getting it to optimize better on the g4 and a TON on getting it to optimzie better on the G5...but still not as much time or money has been put into optimizing gcc for g4/g5 as amd and intel have put in. Jan 12 05:02:17 Kyle_S, aye, its mostly cpu specific Jan 12 05:02:21 kyle_s: from my rather scarce knowledge, isn't it tied to cpu performance? Jan 12 05:02:25 must commit lung cancer progression brb I smoke outside "married" Jan 12 05:02:26 anyone else had issues with klaptop (kde laptop thingy) and ACPI/APM on laptops? on mine, i tell it powered screen = full brightness, close lid = 0 brightness, for some reason i can open lid, screen dims to 0 brightness, go to klaptop thing and tell it full brightness, it works. it seems to randomly have screen brightness issues. anyone else seen/experienced this? Jan 12 05:02:45 mtrisk: cpu, fpu and (this one is bigger than you might think) simd performance. Jan 12 05:03:01 ja, SIMD performance is a major factor in repeated encoding processes Jan 12 05:03:04 mtrisk: from what I've seen of the mplayer folks they optimize for the individual simd units pretty well. Jan 12 05:03:09 <-- SuperGear has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 05:03:30 --> redmoth (~redmoth@118-12.69-92-cpe.cableone.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:03:39 of course apple COULD have pushed for getting a basic simd in the procs ages ago, but they were lax and waited until it fell in their lap with the g4. Jan 12 05:03:42 Kyle_S: well, I came out with about the same size again with vstrict=1, I guess the question is, will it work better Jan 12 05:03:45 <-- redmoth (~redmoth@118-12.69-92-cpe.cableone.net) has left ##slackware Jan 12 05:03:56 inflex: Heh. also see if it looks as good. Jan 12 05:03:58 --> redmoth (~redmoth@118-12.69-92-cpe.cableone.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:04:26 it looked equally as 'blocky' on my playback... trick is of course, as you say, what will it look like in Windows Jan 12 05:04:28 * inflex uploads the 5MB video Jan 12 05:04:42 <-- mtrisk has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 05:05:25 inflex: whats it video of? Jan 12 05:05:45 Kyle_S: my B2 stealth bomber on its maiden flight Jan 12 05:05:58 hello all, i have a question about configuring the network....'netconfig' asks me for a domain name, but my home network isnt really on a domain (or a named one at least) Is there a way i can get around having to enter a domain name? Jan 12 05:06:04 inflex: uhhhhhh. Jan 12 05:06:11 rendering? Jan 12 05:06:14 guys, anyone want to give me biting criticism on a dockapp im working on? Jan 12 05:06:26 Kyle_S: no, a real plane... a radio controlled one Jan 12 05:06:39 Kyle_S: uses twin internal fan units Jan 12 05:06:56 inflex: Ahhhh. Jan 12 05:07:01 link me when your done, sounds cool. Jan 12 05:07:36 sure, another 2 mins to go Jan 12 05:08:20 err what's that cmd to "count" the # of files in a dir? Jan 12 05:09:29 ls | wc -l Jan 12 05:09:32 :-) Jan 12 05:09:37 thanks Jan 12 05:09:47 that may not be accurate - depends on hidden files etc Jan 12 05:09:53 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 12 05:09:56 try ls -la | wc -l (and subtract 2) Jan 12 05:10:08 Kyle_S: http://pldaniels.com/flying/b2a.avi Jan 12 05:10:22 * Kyle_S tries to dig up some good mencoder encoding lines... his are ancient and probably out of date. Jan 12 05:10:46 mencoder dvgrab-001.avi -o b2-01.avi -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=200:vstrict=1 -vf scale -zoom -xy 320 -oac mp3lame -lameopts br=48 Jan 12 05:10:54 Kyle_S: ^--- what I just used for the video you're going to see Jan 12 05:11:25 inflex: Heh, man I used to use SUCH complicated lines...... often for barely noticeable improvements. Jan 12 05:11:44 any recommendations? Jan 12 05:11:48 Kyle_S: I'll stich with the simpler ones ;-0 Jan 12 05:11:53 <-- SKOFFING has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 05:12:42 inflex: heh can't blame you...but sometimes it was worth it. Jan 12 05:12:56 <-- okmeufilho has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 05:12:57 inflex: dude that was the first flight of that thing? Seems to work pretty well (how the hell did you make that?) Jan 12 05:13:16 --> ma (~m@CPE0004e23a0211-CM014500115762.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:13:37 Kyle_S: it's just a foam block really. I bought it as a kit, couple of hours assembling it... pretty easy stuff Jan 12 05:13:46 Kyle_S: I'd consider that one of my 'easiest' planes Jan 12 05:13:49 (to build) Jan 12 05:13:56 inflex: electric? Jan 12 05:13:59 Kyle_S: yes Jan 12 05:14:05 Kyle_S: can fly for about 20 mins Jan 12 05:14:12 Kyle_S: though you start getting pretty darn bored after 10 Jan 12 05:14:14 inflex: neat. How much is a kit like that? Jan 12 05:14:14 <-- Nomius has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 12 05:14:17 --> SuperGear (~supergear@c-24-9-154-178.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:14:35 <-- frogger_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 05:14:45 Kyle_S: $60 USD, then you need the radio gear, another $120, then the chargers + batteries, another $80 Jan 12 05:15:00 Kyle_S: nice thing is, once you have the chargers/batteries/radio-gear, your new-plane costs are quite low Jan 12 05:15:09 * inflex has about 5 planes in the house atm Jan 12 05:15:20 --> Nomius (~Nomius@host239.201-252-223.telecom.net.ar) has joined ##Slackware Jan 12 05:15:21 inflex: Heh true. Jan 12 05:15:35 inflex: interestink... Jan 12 05:15:36 * Kyle_S thinks. Jan 12 05:15:42 * Kyle_S needs a fucking job so he can get toys! Jan 12 05:15:48 hahah Jan 12 05:15:55 I've been doing this for the last 25 years or so. Jan 12 05:16:09 but only recently has electric flight become 'practical' Jan 12 05:16:29 I use lithium-poly batteries; lots of fun Jan 12 05:16:57 --> OutpourDCC (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:17:47 inflex: hell its only in the past 8 years theyve been able to make celphones with small batteries that dont absolutely suck. Jan 12 05:17:56 s/8/5 Jan 12 05:18:14 hello all, i have a question about configuring the network....'netconfig' asks me for a domain name, but my home network isnt really on a domain (or a named one at least) Is there a way i can get around having to enter a domain name? Jan 12 05:18:20 Kyle_S: right, we follow the same sort of technology Jan 12 05:18:28 * Kyle_S nods Jan 12 05:18:33 Kyle_S: except, we tend to remove the 'safety devices' on the lithium batteries Jan 12 05:18:37 <-- ma has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 05:18:41 inflex: safty devices? Jan 12 05:18:43 * Kyle_S perks up Jan 12 05:18:44 remove? Jan 12 05:18:45 (we have to, no way you can draw the power from the battery without doing so) Jan 12 05:18:53 I'm all ears. Jan 12 05:19:02 lipoly batteries violently explode if you mistreat them Jan 12 05:19:10 redmoth, dont worry much about it, put a dummy one if you desire. Jan 12 05:19:27 Kyle_S: I can get you a video link of one going 'poof' Jan 12 05:19:35 keanne: thanks Jan 12 05:19:42 <-- redmoth (~redmoth@118-12.69-92-cpe.cableone.net) has left ##slackware Jan 12 05:19:47 neat. Jan 12 05:20:07 Kyle_S: if you overcharge/undercharge or rupture them, they'll puff up and explode Jan 12 05:20:13 --> ma (~m@CPE0004e23a0211-CM014500115762.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:20:34 Kyle_S: that said, used with the right chargers and under supervision, they're fantastic Jan 12 05:20:38 ... a bit like petrol Jan 12 05:20:54 inflex: Ahh. And if you remove the safty devices, you can get more out of them, but also you can blow off your hand. Jan 12 05:20:57 <-- adjacent has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 05:21:06 very much like petrol then. Jan 12 05:21:15 Probally the same as a capasitor Jan 12 05:21:19 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=130372&stc=1 Jan 12 05:21:25 ^--- picture of a lipo going bang Jan 12 05:22:29 <-- At0mic_PC has quit ("Client exciting") Jan 12 05:23:16 Ahh, that's a doom3 screenshot :) Jan 12 05:23:24 --> ShastaMaroon (1000@cpe-68-116-201-123.ma.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:24:22 What's the easiest way to upgrade to -current? Jan 12 05:24:27 http://www.rcstuff.us/battery/lipo/lipo_DNA.html Jan 12 05:24:33 Kyle_S: there you go - that page has all the fun stuff Jan 12 05:24:54 --- nixor removes ban on *away!*@* Jan 12 05:25:06 http://www.helihobby.com/videos/LithiumBattery.wmv <=- very neat video too Jan 12 05:25:29 okay, I need to go repair my B2 Jan 12 05:25:30 bbiab Jan 12 05:25:37 <-- lilo has quit ("brb") Jan 12 05:26:21 --> JustinTArthur (~JustinTAr@static-151-199-9-6.roa.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:26:40 <-- KruMn has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 05:27:18 <-- rony has quit ("leaving") Jan 12 05:27:52 <-- Corepoint has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 05:28:40 heh. Jan 12 05:28:43 <-- TheBeast has quit ("night") Jan 12 05:28:54 --> Sandman1 (~ravic@sandman1.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:29:06 <-- chodapp has quit () Jan 12 05:30:07 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 05:30:52 --> opencode (~ksdjfhjkh@80-15.dedicado.com.uy) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:30:55 --> octavious (100@pcp05921128pcs.sprgfd01.mi.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:31:32 ShastaMaroon, http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/UPGRADE.TXT Jan 12 05:33:34 Sandman1, :) Jan 12 05:33:37 hi Jan 12 05:33:56 thanks eelriverlt Jan 12 05:34:05 np Jan 12 05:34:20 ShastaMaroon, do EXACTLY what it says, and if you're not sure, be sure you like use a separate machine to stay on IRC, etc. Jan 12 05:34:30 how is everyone? Jan 12 05:34:36 i've only had problems (personally) with upgrading only when i messed up :D Jan 12 05:34:40 Sandman1, great, you? Jan 12 05:34:43 shitty Jan 12 05:34:44 lol Jan 12 05:34:54 bad day, etc Jan 12 05:34:56 NeoLaptop, sounds good to me. thanks a lot! Jan 12 05:35:03 but I got mc working on my live cd Jan 12 05:35:04 Kyle_S, back in the US? Jan 12 05:35:07 so , I guess I have a little + Jan 12 05:35:13 NeoLaptop, I'll wait until I'm done playing CS on my other comp then :-D Jan 12 05:35:16 Sandman1, i sent in a bug report for slackware-current to the kde bugtracker, http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96815 , about klaptopdaemon, don't work right Jan 12 05:35:21 keanne: yup. Jan 12 05:35:25 ShastaMaroon, kewl :D CS rulez Jan 12 05:35:26 and jobless :( Jan 12 05:35:28 NeoLaptop, ah, there is a secuirty hole in kde I haven't fixed yet Jan 12 05:35:39 Sandman1, i'm not using your kde, i'm using slackware-current Jan 12 05:35:47 NeoLaptop, I just haven't been here mentally Jan 12 05:35:49 keanne: on the upsdie, if I had the money for a car, I woudln't have to spend a grand getting a government inspection for it. Jan 12 05:35:51 ShastaMaroon, Oh yeah, read the changelog since 10 came out too, there are some important things in there. Jan 12 05:35:59 well you haven't been in irc at all, so it's more than just mentally Jan 12 05:36:01 NeoLaptop, last night was the first time on a *nix box in like 4 or 5 days Jan 12 05:36:02 keanne: on the downside, I have no money to get a car. Jan 12 05:36:13 Sandman1, i was on vacation for like a month lol Jan 12 05:36:15 hehe Jan 12 05:36:21 hey Kyle_S Jan 12 05:36:23 ...or anything Jan 12 05:36:27 hey Sandy, how are ya? Jan 12 05:36:36 shitty Jan 12 05:36:43 Sandman1, Is ravic *nix or *bsd? Jan 12 05:36:48 (didn't feel like typing) Jan 12 05:37:00 eelriverlt, drunk proof account Jan 12 05:37:06 Ahh Jan 12 05:37:08 Sandman1: why dude? Jan 12 05:37:10 its got a restricted shell Jan 12 05:37:13 can't do crap Jan 12 05:37:13 lol Jan 12 05:37:20 Kyle_S, just a bad day, we all have em now and then Jan 12 05:37:30 eelriverlt, haven't been drinking in a while, I just like some settings on it Jan 12 05:37:56 NeoLaptop, -current is more up to date than the 10.0 ISO's right? Jan 12 05:38:02 --> ohoh (~ohoh@Toronto-HSE-ppp3658327.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:38:35 seagate driven Jan 12 05:38:45 hey Sandy :P Jan 12 05:38:45 Sandman1: hey guy. hows it going? Jan 12 05:38:57 Sandman1, That wasn't an accusitory Ahh, it was an I understand now Ahh :) Jan 12 05:39:13 <-- evets has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 05:39:27 Sandman1: well.. Kill someone. It'll make you feel better. Jan 12 05:39:28 eelriverlt, besides, I gave up drinking on school nights ;) Jan 12 05:39:28 ;) Jan 12 05:39:35 Kyle_S, yea im trying Jan 12 05:39:35 <-- repressedeath (repressede@24-56-183-90.wi.warpdriveonline.com) has left ##slackware ("Client Exiting") Jan 12 05:39:39 Sandman1, why? Jan 12 05:39:46 * elijah_b volunteers Jan 12 05:40:00 better getting hammered on school nights anyway. Jan 12 05:40:02 Kyle_S, im really trying to cut down on some stuff though that I have been doing, like computer stuff Jan 12 05:40:10 Kyle_S, when I was in Japan, I asked my colleagues there if they know some companies who accepts someone from US. I still havent received a feedback from them until now. Jan 12 05:40:15 Sandman1, hey, me too...I just quit smoking cold turkey. Jan 12 05:40:24 ShastaMaroon, lol because im 16 Jan 12 05:40:30 --> Jack-Bristow (~biocorp@2001:db0:100a:0:0:0:0:2) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:40:33 !!! Jan 12 05:40:43 whoever buys for you is an idiot Jan 12 05:40:46 haha Jan 12 05:40:50 keanne: Heh, that was nice of you. Thanks. From what I could tell, you either needed tons more demonsttratable skills than I, or much better japaneses than I. Jan 12 05:40:51 I'm only 19 but at least I'm in college Jan 12 05:40:53 anyways Jan 12 05:40:59 mc works on my live cd Jan 12 05:41:01 thats my accomplish today Jan 12 05:41:06 ShastaMaroon: you should be in college at 16 Jan 12 05:41:06 keanne: so I'm thinking it'll take some time before I get that groovy gig in Japan. Jan 12 05:41:09 thats a whore btw Jan 12 05:41:12 and in university at 18 Jan 12 05:41:24 it just didn't work with the TERM settings, etc Jan 12 05:41:25 elijah_b, we call it college in the US...your university Jan 12 05:41:30 Kyle_S: you need to check your gmail account bro Jan 12 05:41:31 oh sorry Jan 12 05:41:31 * Sandman1 had to do mc -uc, wonder who is listening:) Jan 12 05:41:32 ;) Jan 12 05:41:34 thr1ce, hey whats up Jan 12 05:41:35 im guessing a smart UPS isnt worth the money if i dont need it to shut down my box. Jan 12 05:41:38 acidkill, hey Jan 12 05:41:44 --- Jack-Bristow is now known as Caveman Jan 12 05:41:47 howdy. Jan 12 05:41:55 --> okmeufilho (cxvvxcvdsf@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:41:57 ShastaMaroon: you americans always confuse me Jan 12 05:41:59 haha Jan 12 05:42:00 elijah_b, and your college is our high school Jan 12 05:42:10 oh yea...drinking everyday isnt good for your health...makes you fat. =) Jan 12 05:42:18 not really Jan 12 05:42:22 got it explained... I kinda get it now Jan 12 05:42:23 seagate driven Jan 12 05:42:23 acidkill, lol Jan 12 05:42:25 hard booze keeps the pounds off Jan 12 05:42:32 but it's still annoying cause you are the only country like that Jan 12 05:42:36 so do drugs though Jan 12 05:42:38 actually in England they have a joke about American beer...you need to get fat before you get a drunk. Jan 12 05:42:54 I'm a huge fan of newcastle, but budweiser is my economy beer. Jan 12 05:43:21 budweiser is the worst beer in the world Jan 12 05:43:32 no way Jan 12 05:43:33 miller is Jan 12 05:43:34 lol Jan 12 05:43:39 The best economy beer is Steelback Link. Jan 12 05:43:41 they are equally crappy Jan 12 05:43:45 * Sandman1 feels the tension Jan 12 05:43:54 d_low: ehh? I got that one e-mail from you...s orry Been in a slump. Jan 12 05:43:58 d_low: WHy is there new stuff? Jan 12 05:43:59 I bet that's expensive here, sounds like an import Jan 12 05:44:13 Canadian. Jan 12 05:44:14 Kyle_S: you didnt reply, i assumed you didnt get it Jan 12 05:44:16 <-- sagar has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 05:44:28 Michelob is decent. Jan 12 05:44:30 Sleeman's Cream Ale is another good one. Jan 12 05:44:33 d_low: sorry that was my bad. Jan 12 05:44:46 Kyle_S, im sorry you have no job;( Jan 12 05:44:50 american beers are particularly bad Jan 12 05:44:52 But frankly, Guinness and Caffrey's are hardly more, so why not? Jan 12 05:44:53 in my experience Jan 12 05:45:03 well we don't make any dark beers, really Jan 12 05:45:04 Sleeman's Cream Ale was my favorite Jan 12 05:45:06 and I like dark beer Jan 12 05:45:10 d_low: I was thinking though, I can't really move again, especially if its on just a chance that I'd get an upgrade. Jan 12 05:45:22 sam adams is a good american beer Jan 12 05:45:28 never had it Jan 12 05:45:29 harpoon, that grade Jan 12 05:45:31 I like Sleeman's for a readily available bottled beer. Jan 12 05:45:32 Kyle_S, when i get the chance, I'll follow up that matter to them. Jan 12 05:45:32 its very distinct Jan 12 05:45:47 and it is darker Jan 12 05:45:49 I like german beers Jan 12 05:45:49 keanne: thanks! Jan 12 05:46:01 we have a local brewery here that makes very good beer Jan 12 05:46:02 I've only had saint paulie girl for german beer...really wasn't that impressed Jan 12 05:46:13 here in Quebec Jan 12 05:46:15 actually there's a local brewery here called Wachusett, they make really good beer Jan 12 05:46:20 I like smooth beers. Jan 12 05:46:25 beer isn't all that great Jan 12 05:46:26 they got this seasonal brew that's a blueberry ale, its awesome Jan 12 05:46:30 now Rum on the other hand is nice Jan 12 05:46:34 bah Jan 12 05:46:37 it just controls ya to much Jan 12 05:46:38 Alexander Keith's is another decent botte. Jan 12 05:46:47 addicting stuff, terrible! Jan 12 05:46:48 Quite smooth. Jan 12 05:46:48 lol Jan 12 05:46:49 rum is blah Jan 12 05:47:24 keiths is amazing Jan 12 05:47:37 my light beer of choice Jan 12 05:47:39 rum and vodka are too...similar Jan 12 05:47:45 and it's fairly cheap too Jan 12 05:47:49 I like whiskey...and I find no two whiskeys taste the same Jan 12 05:48:10 Sandman1: im pretty happy these days, got me a job. doing IT at a theme park. Cypress Gardens. ;-) Jan 12 05:48:12 ShastaMaroon, ya smoke? Jan 12 05:48:17 acidkill, nice Jan 12 05:48:24 Sandman1, used to. Haven't had a cigarette in... Jan 12 05:48:32 plus im getting a new truck. Jan 12 05:48:39 so, looks like life can improve. Jan 12 05:48:40 heh. Jan 12 05:48:54 ShastaMaroon, oh, I was going to say your taste buds are shot to sh*t Jan 12 05:48:54 anyways Jan 12 05:48:54 95 hours? Jan 12 05:48:58 you guys talking about drinking is making me well, "want to drink" ;( Jan 12 05:49:02 how ae you, sandy? Jan 12 05:49:12 ok then Jan 12 05:49:14 thr1ce, bad day:) Jan 12 05:49:15 I find beer to be very addictive. Jan 12 05:49:16 let's talk about pop Jan 12 05:49:18 pop? Jan 12 05:49:21 pop Jan 12 05:49:21 the pop3 server? Jan 12 05:49:22 I got a bottle of bourbon I'm waiting to tap into Jan 12 05:49:23 like pepsi Jan 12 05:49:24 Sandman1, same :\ Jan 12 05:49:25 oh Jan 12 05:49:30 mountain dew > * Jan 12 05:49:31 or coke Jan 12 05:49:32 <-- okmeufilho has quit ("Vision[0.9.7-SF-010705]: i've been blurred!") Jan 12 05:49:35 na I perfer imap Jan 12 05:49:36 --> okmeufilho (cxvvxcvdsf@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:49:37 Guinness has an aftertaste that just demands another. Jan 12 05:49:43 oh shoot Jan 12 05:49:47 you mean drinking pop, hmmm Jan 12 05:49:50 hrm.. slice comes close, but MD pwnz. lol. Jan 12 05:49:52 Then another. I have been looking for something more satisfying. Jan 12 05:49:52 huh yes Jan 12 05:49:52 s/pop/soda/g Jan 12 05:49:53 what else? Jan 12 05:49:55 Something more "consummate." Jan 12 05:49:56 no Jan 12 05:50:00 I can drink a couple guinnesses, but I can't keep drinking them all night Jan 12 05:50:00 nobody calls it soda :P Jan 12 05:50:00 lol Jan 12 05:50:03 <-- okmeufilho has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 05:50:09 people in the north call I pop, I call it soda:) Jan 12 05:50:09 it is soda Jan 12 05:50:09 --> okmeufilho (cxvvxcvdsf@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:50:13 it's pop Jan 12 05:50:15 lol! Jan 12 05:50:16 anyway Jan 12 05:50:17 north east its soda. Jan 12 05:50:18 amberbach is the darkest I like Jan 12 05:50:21 north as in where north? Jan 12 05:50:23 usa == soda Jan 12 05:50:24 I drink deit pepsi or mountein drew Jan 12 05:50:25 I'm in massachusetts...its soda Jan 12 05:50:26 man I can't spell Jan 12 05:50:26 canada == pop Jan 12 05:50:30 noooo Jan 12 05:50:32 south == soda Jan 12 05:50:32 Caffrey's, though sweeter, is a little more complete to me. Jan 12 05:50:34 north == pop Jan 12 05:50:34 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:50:40 midwest is pop as well. Jan 12 05:50:40 yep Jan 12 05:50:45 acidkill, ;) Jan 12 05:50:53 you guys are more confused than I thought Jan 12 05:50:55 jeez :P Jan 12 05:50:57 yea Jan 12 05:51:01 I was talking about pop3 and imap for a second Jan 12 05:51:02 haha Jan 12 05:51:06 no I mean Jan 12 05:51:07 the USA Jan 12 05:51:09 i just go by what i hear people say. Jan 12 05:51:13 <-- ptlo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 05:51:14 it's all confused and mixed up Jan 12 05:51:16 ah Jan 12 05:51:17 seagate driven Jan 12 05:51:22 elijah_b, also keep in mind depending on where you live, another thing is called a "turn signal" whereas elsewhere it's a "blinker" Jan 12 05:51:34 weird. just weird Jan 12 05:51:37 <- Runs Debian Unstable without fear. Jan 12 05:51:43 heh, in jersey we say both. lol. Jan 12 05:51:46 Life is such a thing that calls for us to dive directly in. Jan 12 05:51:49 jersey is evil Jan 12 05:51:51 --> Marverick (~slack4eve@200-101-037-217.cbabm7006.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:51:53 we call it a turning signal Jan 12 05:51:57 ShastaMaroon: gotta love the circles. Jan 12 05:52:06 I dunno about the circles, but your turnpike sucks Jan 12 05:52:07 go into them at 40-50, and just take it. Jan 12 05:52:08 or simply, a signal Jan 12 05:52:15 Apple is a totally obnoxious company that appeals to egomaniacs. Jan 12 05:52:19 50 km/h is slow Jan 12 05:52:23 how about you stop wasting my time every quarter mile asking for a dime and just let me give you a dollar when I get off? Jan 12 05:52:23 <-- _kop_ has quit (Connection reset by peer) Jan 12 05:52:34 ohoh, shut up, you have yet to say anything intelligent today Jan 12 05:52:38 hehe. Jan 12 05:52:39 ohoh, You were doing alright there until you started repeating yourself again Jan 12 05:52:39 <-- okmeufilho has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 05:52:40 ohoh : go troll elsewhere Jan 12 05:52:43 --> okmeufilho (cxvvxcvdsf@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:52:53 oh I didn't miss the trolls Jan 12 05:52:55 ffs($HOME) Jan 12 05:52:59 <-- The|Back| has quit () Jan 12 05:53:04 <-- okmeufilho has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 05:53:06 man if you look at man ffs that makes no sense Jan 12 05:53:06 haha Jan 12 05:53:21 ffs - find first bit set in a word Jan 12 05:53:24 interesting Jan 12 05:53:25 yea haha Jan 12 05:53:27 Sandman1, his username is gentooohoh, what do you expect? Jan 12 05:53:30 its a function Jan 12 05:53:38 Squall`, heh, I could have sworn I felt somthing fishy ;) Jan 12 05:53:45 lol Jan 12 05:54:04 acidkill, How do you say both? "Hey Sammy, go pop that guy with the soda" Jan 12 05:54:06 lol Jan 12 05:54:14 eelriverlt: you dont Jan 12 05:54:17 eelriverlt: no, the blinker, turn signal thing. Jan 12 05:54:22 and what does popping a guy mean btw? Jan 12 05:54:28 lollol Jan 12 05:54:32 pop a guy = punch. Jan 12 05:54:35 jesus Jan 12 05:54:36 smacking / punching Jan 12 05:54:39 unless you are from...err..never mind. Jan 12 05:54:39 oops Jan 12 05:54:41 another local expression Jan 12 05:54:46 usually some sort of physical bludgeoning Jan 12 05:54:49 its pop a guy here too Jan 12 05:54:50 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:54:55 never heard it in canada Jan 12 05:54:57 how do i find what option to enable in 'make menuconfig' to create a certain module? the module being sis_free and sis_malloc Jan 12 05:55:03 we have the sole rights on "wicked" Jan 12 05:55:04 --> kyle_ (~kyle@c-24-12-143-3.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:55:04 we say cap a guy Jan 12 05:55:05 sometimes mean shoot Jan 12 05:55:11 argh Jan 12 05:55:14 I'm the only person in this channel who can say wicked :-P Jan 12 05:55:19 <-- Kyle_S has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 12 05:55:20 ShastaMaroon, who are you? Jan 12 05:55:21 wicked, as in wicked pissah? =) Jan 12 05:55:22 --- kyle_ is now known as Kyle_S Jan 12 05:55:35 Squall`, I am ShastaMaroon, king of... Jan 12 05:55:38 see Jan 12 05:55:42 I went to the USA once Jan 12 05:55:48 and I barely understood what they said Jan 12 05:56:06 funny thing is, americans say that about other parts of US too. Jan 12 05:56:16 meh, I'm an outcast everywhere I go. Even in Connecticut people make fun of my accent. Jan 12 05:56:16 My last says i'm the best boy in the world! Jan 12 05:56:21 i can understand southerners, or strong bostonian accents. Jan 12 05:56:31 I try to explain to them I talk normal and they're screwed up. Doesn't usually work. Jan 12 05:56:31 they thought I was from anotehr state, I was insulted Jan 12 05:56:34 I AM CANADIAN Jan 12 05:56:39 I got a wicked boston accent... Jan 12 05:56:44 * Squall` pretends to care Jan 12 05:56:54 i don't think i'm doing a good job though Jan 12 05:57:00 Squall`, nobody asked you to take part in the conversation. Jan 12 05:57:06 you don't like it, shut up. Jan 12 05:57:11 but we're being nice and civil here. Jan 12 05:57:23 Kyle_S, hey mate, can you do me a favor Jan 12 05:57:40 ShastaMaroon : telling somebody to shut up isn't nice either Jan 12 05:57:50 ananke, I know that. Jan 12 05:57:54 The best boy in the world is seagate driven - and running on DEBIAN UNSTABLE. Jan 12 05:57:54 I just don't...care that much Jan 12 05:58:03 ohoh is a toolbox. Jan 12 05:58:15 time to vote him off the island Jan 12 05:58:16 I think its a bot, really. Jan 12 05:58:20 they thought I was from Ohio Jan 12 05:58:21 hey Kyle_S can you ban this ohoh guy? Jan 12 05:58:26 elijah_b, im from ohio Jan 12 05:58:27 I have no idea where they got that from Jan 12 05:58:30 he's been kicked earlier today by unixfool Jan 12 05:58:35 I have a strong canadian accent Jan 12 05:58:40 Sandman1: what? Jan 12 05:58:49 elijah_b, sorry to hear that :-P Jan 12 05:58:49 Kyle_S, can you just like +q or somthing ohoh , hes a bloody moron ;) Jan 12 05:58:55 ich bin ein ohioan Jan 12 05:58:57 * Kyle_S has been afw... Jan 12 05:58:58 Kyle_S, hes in #gentoo for sakes, nothing good comes from there Jan 12 05:58:58 about teh accent or Ohio> Jan 12 05:59:00 ? Jan 12 05:59:03 hey OhMyAchinLap Jan 12 05:59:04 Kyle_S, ah hes just trolling Jan 12 05:59:06 haven't seen you in a while Jan 12 05:59:13 The only good thing about being in massachusetts is I'm a masshole. That gives me the right of way across the country. Jan 12 05:59:15 been workin Jan 12 05:59:24 ShastaMaroon: Please stop trolling. Jan 12 05:59:25 OhMyAchinLap, traitor Jan 12 05:59:32 hahaha Jan 12 05:59:32 Kyle_S, not trolling. Jan 12 05:59:32 ShastaMaroon: do you despise canadians? :P Jan 12 05:59:38 elijah_b, na Jan 12 05:59:42 For gods sake at least keep it mildly ontopic. Jan 12 05:59:42 canadians have the tasty beer Jan 12 05:59:44 * Kyle_S sighs Jan 12 05:59:49 --> Frost^ (~Weiss@IGLD-83-130-210-170.inter.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 05:59:50 topic? WHERE? Jan 12 05:59:55 +q Jan 12 06:00:03 if you're going to be offtopic, don't make it boring as hell Jan 12 06:00:04 geez Jan 12 06:00:10 Just saying I drove to PA and the only people in the passing lane were from my state...it's true Jan 12 06:00:21 sandman1, why are we supposed tomsg unixfool? Jan 12 06:00:23 Squall`, if you got a better thing to chat about, by all means. Jan 12 06:00:29 !opme Jan 12 06:00:31 OhMyAchinLap, umm? Jan 12 06:00:33 damnit Jan 12 06:00:34 ! Jan 12 06:00:36 OhMyAchinLap, what are you talking about? Jan 12 06:00:41 topic Jan 12 06:00:43 ShastaMaroon, run /topic in your irc client Jan 12 06:00:47 * Sandman1 checks Jan 12 06:00:53 ohhhh Jan 12 06:00:56 that's mildly interesting Jan 12 06:01:01 I wonder why irssi shows ##slackwar as the channel name Jan 12 06:01:14 with 2 #'s Jan 12 06:01:14 OhMyAchinLap, I took a break from linux, BSD, computers for like 5 days and I guess people got worried, really sweet Jan 12 06:01:18 <-- Caveman has quit ("How can I know all this, but not know who I am ?") Jan 12 06:01:19 elijah_b, read freenode.org's channel ownership policy Jan 12 06:01:19 elijah_b: thats the name of the channel. Jan 12 06:01:22 elijah_b, thats the name Jan 12 06:01:23 elijah_b, some compliance with ownership thing...you got a /notice from chanserv when you joined Jan 12 06:01:26 it recently changed Jan 12 06:01:32 I ignore chanserv, heh Jan 12 06:01:32 --> oh76 (~ohoh@Toronto-HSE-ppp3658162.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 06:01:35 Sandman1 how's the live CD coming? Jan 12 06:01:38 me too Jan 12 06:01:45 but i remember being stranded in #slackware Jan 12 06:01:47 OhMyAchinLap, forgot my root pwd, had to reset it, etc Jan 12 06:01:50 elijah_b, it's a freenode thing. ## means it's unofficial channel (i.e. patrick volkerding isn't running this channel basically, sort of), or # for official channels Jan 12 06:01:51 OhMyAchinLap: I was too Jan 12 06:02:00 NeoLaptop: thanks Jan 12 06:02:00 thr1ce, taking a break, I got mc working today on it though Jan 12 06:02:01 #hell is an official channel because i highly doubt satan will ever come to take over :D Jan 12 06:02:07 thr1ce, I had a few mental breakdown thingies over my little break Jan 12 06:02:10 and because i've been called lucifer before ... :D Jan 12 06:02:19 <-- fhobia has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 06:02:26 Sandman1, REALLY good to have you back :) Jan 12 06:02:30 and nice to know you're all right Jan 12 06:02:33 lucifer means illumination Jan 12 06:02:38 thr1ce, yea just dropping by Jan 12 06:02:41 or shine light Jan 12 06:02:46 thr1ce, im really weak atm though Jan 12 06:02:46 :) Jan 12 06:02:52 why? Jan 12 06:02:54 read Angels and Demons... Jan 12 06:02:56 hehe Jan 12 06:03:12 * thr1ce hasn't finished da vinci code yet Jan 12 06:03:18 lol Jan 12 06:03:23 thr1ce, lol mentally Jan 12 06:03:37 does anyone use gotmail here? Jan 12 06:03:42 thr1ce, listening to this book... very good ... like Michael Crightons stuff Jan 12 06:03:46 Because teh seagate engine is smooth like a silk and rhapsodically robust. Debian Unstable? Bring it on. Jan 12 06:03:54 --> Outpour (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 06:04:13 uhmm, can we just ban that bot/troll? Jan 12 06:04:35 oh76: what? Jan 12 06:04:39 WE can't, Kyle_S can Jan 12 06:04:42 to upgrade a package that comes with slackware, do you just download the new source and make, make install or will that screw with the slackware package manager? Jan 12 06:04:57 --> lilo (lilo@levin-pdpc.staff.freenode) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 06:05:07 ShastaMaroon, slackware has an upgradepkg package.tgz function Jan 12 06:05:08 * Squall` sucks up to lilo Jan 12 06:05:10 ShastaMaroon: remove the package first and user checkinstall to make your own package Jan 12 06:05:10 hi there! Jan 12 06:05:13 ShastaMaroon : uhmm, you can either upgrade with a package, or removepkg the old one and install whatever Jan 12 06:05:25 ohoh almost as bad as Kurt Jan 12 06:05:39 <-- keanne has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 06:05:41 would I just download the source from the project's website, the upgradepkg ? Jan 12 06:05:58 ShastaMaroon : no. that applies only to packages, not source Jan 12 06:06:03 ahh Jan 12 06:06:04 ShastaMaroon no, that only works for slack packs; from source, you must compile your self Jan 12 06:06:17 so uninstall the package, then compile the source...gotcha Jan 12 06:06:38 that would work, using removepkg, or the pkgtool like you mentioned Jan 12 06:06:41 ShastaMaroon: use checkinstall to make your own package tho Jan 12 06:06:44 first you should ask yourself: do you really need that compiled? what program is it? Jan 12 06:07:00 ShastaMaroon, I download and edit the "program.SlackBuild" the run it against the tarball Jan 12 06:07:15 I dont think I know enough to do that Jan 12 06:07:28 ShastaMaroon, try using a program called "checkinstall" in /extra Jan 12 06:07:31 get either the slackbuild thing or checkinstall Jan 12 06:07:36 that will create a package from source for you Jan 12 06:07:38 * inflex finishes the first stage or repairing his B2 bomber Jan 12 06:07:45 that's kinda cool Jan 12 06:07:46 Kyle_S: see those exploding lipo vidoes? Jan 12 06:07:53 My mother was so overexposed she thought to put me through Hell as if it would pave me into a sidewalk star. Jan 12 06:07:53 <-- ohoh has quit (Operation timed out) Jan 12 06:07:54 then you can do ./configure, make, checkinstall Jan 12 06:08:00 inflex: got distracted :) Jan 12 06:08:04 * Kyle_S scrolss up to download Jan 12 06:08:07 Kyle_S: perfectly understandable Jan 12 06:08:29 The drama was way too much; I feel so much harder than they act to say. Jan 12 06:08:33 Kyle_S: no need - it's nothing fancy - just gives you an idea of what can happen to your cellphone / laptop batteries without protection Jan 12 06:08:52 inflex, can you give the link again? Jan 12 06:09:05 http://www.rcstuff.us/battery/lipo/lipo_DNA.html Jan 12 06:09:08 inflex: heh its cool to see stuff blow up though! Jan 12 06:09:20 * inflex goes in search of the perfect codec Jan 12 06:09:38 Kyle_S: just finished fitting a replacement foam-block into the wing where the tree took a bite out of the wing Jan 12 06:10:04 Kyle_S: incidently, did you say you had some good encoding/mencoder lines? Jan 12 06:10:53 inflex: I was searching some out, but generally, setting vhq automagically adds a few good options, then I often put in v4mv and tell it to use b frames, but to avoid them in high motion scenes. Jan 12 06:11:23 Kyle_S: fair enough - I'll stick with what I have then Jan 12 06:12:12 --- oh76 is now known as A_Silky_Slut Jan 12 06:12:20 -lavc vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:v4mv:vbitrate=blah:vmax_b_frames=2:vb_strategy=1 Jan 12 06:12:29 inflex: at least use the vhq, it helps quite a bit with the quality. Jan 12 06:12:53 yes, I use the vhq Jan 12 06:12:55 Hi guys. Jan 12 06:13:03 * Kyle_S looks A_Silky_Slut. Oh for the love of Bob change your nick back to something reasonable. Jan 12 06:13:12 inflex: Ahh ok. Jan 12 06:13:21 --- A_Silky_Slut is now known as oh75 Jan 12 06:13:32 just get rid of his sorry ass Jan 12 06:13:59 ananke: I'm thinking of it.. how long have those two trolls been about? Jan 12 06:14:21 I am a friend of Logan's, Kyle. Jan 12 06:14:24 ... and has that FantaMoron started behaving? Jan 12 06:14:30 it's one troll, and as you can see, it's been at least 30 mins Jan 12 06:14:35 oh75: Ohh ok then... ohh wait, who's logan? I don't KNOW a logan. Jan 12 06:14:36 it's the same host Jan 12 06:14:38 --> mortal_ (~mortal@adsl-221-220-247.mgm.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 06:14:43 Logan Johnson. Jan 12 06:14:52 Id say how many times you can kick it firsts Jan 12 06:14:54 have some fun with it Jan 12 06:14:57 I am ok. Jan 12 06:15:00 hey, does anyone know if the old crystal radio had to be powered? Jan 12 06:15:04 <-- tintin has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 06:15:13 right I"m getting sick of this myself Jan 12 06:15:33 <-- _56k has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 06:15:37 oh75: cute. scram and stop trolling. Jan 12 06:16:00 <-- Linux_dude has quit ("Linux Rocks! - chat w/me @: koolaidpenguin / AIM or nomasteryoda / YIM") Jan 12 06:16:09 nm i found the wiki page Jan 12 06:16:18 <-- mortal_ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 06:16:42 'my name is shake zula'. gotta love that show Jan 12 06:17:14 hu mortal left before getting the (obvious) answer. Jan 12 06:17:59 --> asc-at-home (~taylorb@66.45.66.78) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 06:18:07 --> Caveman (~biocorp@caveman.ipv6tb.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 06:18:17 <-- asc-at-home (~taylorb@66.45.66.78) has left ##slackware Jan 12 06:18:21 --> asc-at-home (~taylorb@66.45.66.78) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 06:18:25 Now that was wierd. Jan 12 06:18:35 Anyone here familiar with raw partition data and LVM? Jan 12 06:18:49 asc-at-home : don't do it. Jan 12 06:19:23 That doesn't quite answer my question now, does it? ;) Jan 12 06:19:39 your question was so vague, it doesn't deserve an answer Jan 12 06:19:57 heh Jan 12 06:19:58 Very well. Long explanation coming: Jan 12 06:20:15 ... Jan 12 06:20:44 Are there any other Seagate boys here? Jan 12 06:20:46 I have a configured LVM VG using /dev/hde, /dev/hdf, /dev/hdg, and /dev/hdh. LILO got mad at me and overwrote the partition table data on /dev/hde. I'm using whole disks in the vg. Jan 12 06:20:53 --> bosshog (~bosshog@ip68-100-57-72.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 06:21:17 <-- bosshog has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.52B [Mozilla rv:1.6/20040113]") Jan 12 06:21:41 One of my very favorite pasttimes is talking Seagate. Jan 12 06:21:43 I am needing to recover that partition table, and there is no backup. Raw data suggests there is little difference in the partition table data between these disks. In ASCII, I can even see the VG name, and some other characters that seem to be identical. Jan 12 06:22:01 oh75: oh shut up already Jan 12 06:22:27 However, one string is different, and I imagine it's the key to me restoring this partition table and thus my VG. Jan 12 06:22:36 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to Kyle_S Jan 12 06:22:50 asc-at-home : what does pvdisplay /dev/hde show? Jan 12 06:22:51 --- Kyle_S sets ban on *!*@Toronto-HSE-ppp3658162.sympatico.ca Jan 12 06:22:51 <-- nixor has kicked oh75 from ##slackware (Banned) Jan 12 06:22:55 * Kyle_S sighs Jan 12 06:23:00 I really didn't want to do it. Jan 12 06:23:03 that host name sounds firmilair Jan 12 06:23:18 --- Kyle_S removes channel operator status from Kyle_S Jan 12 06:23:21 lvmtab doesn't exist or is unreadbale. Jan 12 06:23:26 and yes, I ran vgscan. Jan 12 06:23:40 asc-at-home : what about pvscan? Jan 12 06:23:43 The partition table is completely empty on /dev/hde, I cleaned it up from LILO. Jan 12 06:23:59 <-- OutpourDCC has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 06:24:19 Sandman1: its just because sypatico in canada tends to have adds taht read, "Want to troll and anoy people on the internet? Do you enjoy spamming, fake bidding and flame wars? We are YOUR type of ISP." Jan 12 06:24:21 it's a bit ironic, my first answer being 'don't do it' Jan 12 06:24:23 pvscan does not show /dev/hde Jan 12 06:24:34 Kyle_S, hehehehe Jan 12 06:24:53 ananke: It's a bit ironic, that I have a library of 500 DLT tapes here and you're mocking a 300GB array I use for transitioning data. Jan 12 06:24:55 asc-at-home : and pvdisplay /dev/hde returns what? Jan 12 06:25:11 pvdisplay -- no physical volume identifier on "/dev/hde" Jan 12 06:25:17 asc-at-home : yeah. it is ironic, how lousy your data management seems to be Jan 12 06:25:27 This from a slackware user? Jan 12 06:25:34 this is from me Jan 12 06:25:40 fair enough. Jan 12 06:25:44 <-- opencode has quit () Jan 12 06:25:52 Some men, you just can't reach. Jan 12 06:25:59 like yourself? Jan 12 06:26:02 hu Jan 12 06:26:03 asc-at-home: a 300GB array? As in raid. Ummm redundant? Jan 12 06:26:03 I'm fine. Jan 12 06:26:05 <-- Cirkit has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 06:26:06 How do you delete a crontab? Jan 12 06:26:11 --> aft2 (~upirc@65.201.32.223) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 06:26:12 It's a DVD storage space. Jan 12 06:26:13 Gartt, crontab -e Jan 12 06:26:17 go to the line and hit "dd" Jan 12 06:26:17 I stuff 'em to DLT when I am full. Jan 12 06:26:21 then :wq or ZZ in command mode Jan 12 06:26:30 lvm howto even mentions that this is not a good idea Jan 12 06:26:32 Sandman1: be nice. Jan 12 06:26:32 I'll lose Supersize Me if I don't get this. Jan 12 06:26:41 You getting my point now? Jan 12 06:26:41 Kyle_S, I am:( Jan 12 06:26:45 lol Jan 12 06:26:46 Kyle_S, when was I mean? Jan 12 06:26:48 im confused lol Jan 12 06:26:52 Sandman1: your telling him to delete his crontab :) Jan 12 06:26:56 Kyle_S, ahhh hehehehe Jan 12 06:26:59 Of course, there are some pics I want, and a mysql dump from the goat database. Jan 12 06:27:08 Kyle_S, but hey, he wants to:( Jan 12 06:27:10 But otherwise, I have to go back to a bunch of tapes from 4 weeks ago. Jan 12 06:27:16 And I'll lose 10-20GB Jan 12 06:27:20 Kyle_S, dG would have been worse (delete from current cursor to end of file) Jan 12 06:27:31 Now, you wanna be kinda rude, mock me for having a swap space I use, fine. Jan 12 06:27:38 <-- ma has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 06:27:41 But I'll bet you can't fix the problem either. Jan 12 06:27:49 Gartt: Ok, if your having trouble with cron, try making a simple entry that runs date >> /tmp/thisdate, every minute. If you see it grow every minute, then your good. Start there for working with crontab. Jan 12 06:27:55 asc-at-home : daring me won't get you anywhere Jan 12 06:28:00 I'm not daring you. Jan 12 06:28:07 You already did what I did 4 hours ago. Jan 12 06:28:15 i'm done with you anyway Jan 12 06:28:17 Got anything else other than snide remarks? Jan 12 06:28:20 fair enough. Jan 12 06:28:29 i haven't even started with remarks Jan 12 06:28:36 right you two into your corners, that was the 2nd round bell. Jan 12 06:28:42 Nah, I'm out. Jan 12 06:28:48 You ain't keeping a clean house. Jan 12 06:28:50 <-- asc-at-home (~taylorb@66.45.66.78) has left ##slackware Jan 12 06:28:57 pissy isn't he? Jan 12 06:29:00 <-- viLeR has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 06:29:03 very Jan 12 06:29:57 k Kyle_S, but the problem is that whenever it tries to move files from an empty dir, it put a msg in var/mail for root, and the msg's add up--- So I'd like to try to delete that cron entry Jan 12 06:30:38 Gartt: Ahhh :) thats why you dump the output to /dev/null Jan 12 06:30:44 --> CajunKnight (~usa@68.206.179.75) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 06:30:49 ie cp whatever /home/whatever >& /dev/null Jan 12 06:30:50 <-- aft2 (~upirc@65.201.32.223) has left ##slackware Jan 12 06:30:51 that should do it Jan 12 06:31:33 Maybe I should read a bit to understand first :P Jan 12 06:31:49 Gartt: thats always a good start. The million and one messages from crontab get anoying I know Jan 12 06:32:09 so where would I put this dump thing? Jan 12 06:32:21 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 06:32:29 Gartt: at the end of the crontab line Jan 12 06:32:51 <-- HeatHawk has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 06:32:52 the same line of my last entry? Jan 12 06:33:00 Gartt: yup at the end Jan 12 06:33:10 paste the line into here. Jan 12 06:33:15 its just one line so its ok. Jan 12 06:34:10 But when I use crontab -e root, I can't edit anything Jan 12 06:34:26 Gartt, you are in VI Jan 12 06:34:32 hah Jan 12 06:34:33 Gartt, if you don't like vi then type export VISUAL=pico Jan 12 06:34:37 ESC :q! to quit Jan 12 06:34:41 or read ftp://sandman777.homelinux.com/Tutorials/vi.txt Jan 12 06:34:59 I perfer vi:) Jan 12 06:35:02 nm, I'm stupid, stupid mistakes Jan 12 06:35:07 Gartt, no your not stupid Jan 12 06:35:08 alright sandman Jan 12 06:35:12 Gartt, are you learning? yes you are, then you are not stupid Jan 12 06:35:14 shame on you Jan 12 06:35:27 Gartt, now stupid is forgetting your root password after only 5 days of an absense! Jan 12 06:35:32 yeah export VISUAL=pico -- I read that tutorial you wrote a few hours ago Jan 12 06:35:41 hehe Sandman1 Jan 12 06:35:52 :) Jan 12 06:36:07 i thought it used the EDITOR variable Jan 12 06:36:08 <-- Lurkan has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 06:36:21 export VISUAL="xterm -bg black -fg white -e vim" :) Jan 12 06:36:34 <-- neoslak has quit ("Linux, the free OS....except for your SOUL! MOUHAHAHAHA!") Jan 12 06:36:37 that's what it should be Jan 12 06:36:40 Squall`, want to see somthing funny? Jan 12 06:36:46 sure, whynot? Jan 12 06:36:48 ryan@Sandman1:~> ls -l /bin/sh Jan 12 06:36:48 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3 Jan 9 22:17 /bin/sh -> zsh* Jan 12 06:36:53 that's sick Jan 12 06:36:59 hehe Jan 12 06:37:01 you symlinked sh to zsh? Jan 12 06:37:04 hell yea Jan 12 06:37:04 geez Jan 12 06:37:07 don't have bash anymore Jan 12 06:37:13 removepkg bash Jan 12 06:37:23 altho slackware says bash is REQUIRED Jan 12 06:37:29 don't you remember ? Jan 12 06:37:30 if I want bash I use "emulate -LR bash" Jan 12 06:37:32 elijah_b, no its not Jan 12 06:37:33 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 06:37:42 well in the installation process it says it is Jan 12 06:37:43 elijah_b, I symlinked the sh file, its fine:) Jan 12 06:37:46 I know Jan 12 06:37:49 elijah_b: hehe Jan 12 06:37:55 zsh can do sh stuff Jan 12 06:37:57 wait.... doesn't pkgtool use bash? Jan 12 06:37:58 so its easy. Jan 12 06:37:59 oh Jan 12 06:38:03 Squall`, no it uses /bin/sh Jan 12 06:38:12 * Squall` thinks Caveman is ready to become a slacker Jan 12 06:38:24 Squall`: I was a slacker for years. Jan 12 06:38:26 Squall`, plus zsh is really good at emulating every shell but csh Jan 12 06:38:26 just not any more. Jan 12 06:38:30 and csh sucks anyways Jan 12 06:38:31 hehe Jan 12 06:38:36 even ksh, etc Jan 12 06:38:47 hey guys, Caveman needs help Jan 12 06:38:49 let's convert him Jan 12 06:38:56 hehe Jan 12 06:38:58 he's been misguided Jan 12 06:39:01 me you mean convert back ? Jan 12 06:39:03 hehe Jan 12 06:39:06 haha Jan 12 06:39:12 so not going to happen :_ Jan 12 06:39:13 leave Mother Caveman alone! Jan 12 06:39:21 * Sandman1 hugs Caveman Jan 12 06:39:24 even Sandman1 can't convert me back :) Jan 12 06:39:24 * Squall` snickers Jan 12 06:39:33 Caveman, wouldn't even dream of it lol Jan 12 06:39:37 <-- PiterPunk has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 12 06:39:59 Sandman1: you did try for awhile :) Jan 12 06:40:01 hehe Jan 12 06:40:03 still am:) Jan 12 06:40:05 which is fair enough Jan 12 06:40:13 Caveman, man Jan 12 06:40:22 Caveman, I can't even get amy using vi Jan 12 06:40:25 Caveman, I can't control you, lol Jan 12 06:40:31 hehe Jan 12 06:40:32 wrong channel Jan 12 06:40:32 haha Jan 12 06:40:39 well you certainly cant control her.. Jan 12 06:40:40 hehe Jan 12 06:40:47 Caveman, omg but shes soooo good looking! Jan 12 06:40:49 very much a free mind there :) Jan 12 06:40:56 older too! Jan 12 06:40:56 :) Jan 12 06:40:57 * Sandman1 winks Jan 12 06:40:59 Sandman1: haha, oh yeah. She has the looks. Jan 12 06:41:06 gota love em older Jan 12 06:41:06 Sandman1: haha.. yep. Jan 12 06:41:08 LOL Jan 12 06:41:11 _almost perfect_ Jan 12 06:41:16 * Caveman wonders if we should go there. Jan 12 06:41:19 just gota get her using vi, zsh and learn pythona Jan 12 06:41:21 python* Jan 12 06:41:25 then she should be the perfect girl ;) Jan 12 06:41:29 haha Jan 12 06:41:30 i'm sure she's REAL interested sandy Jan 12 06:41:39 Squall`, im sure she is:) Jan 12 06:41:40 she can't program her way out of box. Jan 12 06:41:46 let alone anything useful. Jan 12 06:41:50 ./configure Jan 12 06:41:51 yea Jan 12 06:41:55 exceptions to vi, zsh and python Jan 12 06:41:58 make and make instlal is as far as its got. Jan 12 06:41:58 ;) Jan 12 06:42:07 and btw Squall` I removed the "view" symlink and relinked it to elvis:) Jan 12 06:42:10 she is a gui baby like me anyway. Jan 12 06:42:13 so its no longer vim Jan 12 06:42:15 thanks disgusting too Jan 12 06:42:16 Caveman, lol Jan 12 06:42:17 *that's Jan 12 06:42:26 Caveman, GUI is looks though, shes got personality Jan 12 06:42:33 why don't you remove ex while you're at it? Jan 12 06:42:38 Caveman, but I definalty would not want to piss her off Jan 12 06:42:42 Squall`, ;) Jan 12 06:42:44 no! Jan 12 06:42:55 Sandman1: thats a good choice :) Jan 12 06:43:06 he would kick your ass for sure :) Jan 12 06:43:11 Caveman, if I ever go to AU, I want to hug her ;) Jan 12 06:43:13 oh crap, i thought this was #linuxforum Jan 12 06:43:15 if ya know what I mean Jan 12 06:43:20 Squall`: LOL/.. Jan 12 06:43:20 haha Jan 12 06:43:26 lol Jan 12 06:43:30 no one else is talking Jan 12 06:43:33 :) Jan 12 06:43:36 you mean you say things in #linuxforum you wont say in #slackware ?? Jan 12 06:43:45 <-- Cirkit has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 06:43:52 I love you! Jan 12 06:44:03 btw, Sandman1 who are you talking about? Jan 12 06:44:05 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 06:44:09 Squall`, who the girl? Jan 12 06:44:26 friend of mine. Jan 12 06:44:33 shes incredible Jan 12 06:44:35 this isn't, Elektra, is it? Jan 12 06:44:38 who sandman is crazy about. Jan 12 06:44:42 Squall`: yep. Jan 12 06:44:48 hehe Jan 12 06:44:53 Caveman, I have 1 girl in my electronics class Jan 12 06:44:59 Caveman, she WILL use zsh and Slackware when im done with her Jan 12 06:45:07 LOL Jan 12 06:45:12 you should probably date girls your own age, sandy Jan 12 06:45:16 --> _kop_ (~trillian@64-40-47-218.nocharge.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 06:45:16 Squall`, lol Jan 12 06:45:20 Squall`, I like em older, you know that Jan 12 06:45:24 Squall`: age is just a number :P Jan 12 06:45:26 even my first girlfriend was older Jan 12 06:45:39 * Squall` likes a year younger Jan 12 06:45:43 haha Jan 12 06:45:47 hehe Jan 12 06:45:48 older girls yich Jan 12 06:45:49 I like expierence Jan 12 06:45:53 because you know damn well I know crap Jan 12 06:45:54 lol Jan 12 06:45:57 um... sandy Jan 12 06:45:58 wtf does that mean ? Jan 12 06:46:04 Caveman, don't ask Jan 12 06:46:07 Caveman, I can't say here :) pm? Jan 12 06:46:10 --> sonnyjz (~sonnyjz@pcp04970185pcs.audubn01.nj.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 06:46:10 Squall`: hehe Jan 12 06:46:14 hey sonnyjz Jan 12 06:46:17 howdy Jan 12 06:46:28 Sandman1: sure Jan 12 06:46:31 sonnyjz: hey Jan 12 06:46:43 nothing wrong with older women Jan 12 06:46:59 NeoLaptop: nope. Jan 12 06:47:01 NeoLaptop, younger is the way to :) Jan 12 06:47:04 esp. women hitting the peak of their sex drive in their 30s Jan 12 06:47:15 NeoLaptop, hehe Jan 12 06:47:17 * Squall` prefers sixteen year olds Jan 12 06:47:22 * Kyle_S pulls the chann back from getting into #gentoo teritory Jan 12 06:47:24 OK guys. Jan 12 06:47:25 NeoLaptop, yea some 47 year old came over to the house for some reason, she was pretty hot for her age! Jan 12 06:47:28 just got my wireless card working in linux Jan 12 06:47:31 sonnyjz, sweet Jan 12 06:47:32 * Squall` shuts up Jan 12 06:47:32 * NeoLaptop can't wait until his wife reaches that time in her life :D Jan 12 06:47:33 Squall`: Man I really hope your under 18 if your saying that. Jan 12 06:47:35 first time wireless linux user Jan 12 06:47:36 OK now. Jan 12 06:47:39 <-- Cirkit has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 06:47:41 Kyle_S, i'm sixteen :) Jan 12 06:47:42 too bad i'm 4yrs older than my wife Jan 12 06:47:47 Squall`: good. Jan 12 06:47:53 :) Jan 12 06:48:16 hehe Jan 12 06:48:30 sonnyjz, cool? Jan 12 06:48:32 err Jan 12 06:48:35 is it working okay? Jan 12 06:48:57 yeah Jan 12 06:49:00 so far so good Jan 12 06:49:05 --> seemawn (~zomtec@p50810896.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 06:49:20 going to setup my samba shares through it to test reliability Jan 12 06:49:21 what modem / router are you using? Jan 12 06:49:22 oh Jan 12 06:49:27 linksys Jan 12 06:49:34 I have a wired and wireless configuration in this machine Jan 12 06:49:37 linkless? :D Jan 12 06:49:54 linksys routers are ok, but i prefer a smoothwall box Jan 12 06:49:58 I have a linksys firewall/router and a linksys wireless firewall/router running off of that Jan 12 06:50:12 well there are tons of firmware hacks for linksys Jan 12 06:50:23 never heard of smoothwallbox Jan 12 06:54:17 <-- nomasteryoda has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 06:55:13 yo Jan 12 06:55:15 whatup slackers Jan 12 06:55:19 nothing really Jan 12 06:55:25 just about to look if I want this minimac or not Jan 12 06:55:27 I mean its only 500 Jan 12 06:55:31 <-- suid0 has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 12 06:55:32 what's with the topic? Jan 12 06:55:41 ? Jan 12 06:55:42 whats wrong with it?> Jan 12 06:55:48 Anyone hearing from Sandman1, please /msg unixfool Jan 12 06:55:56 ah that Jan 12 06:56:01 well I was gone for what, a few days and people got worried Jan 12 06:56:07 oh lol Jan 12 06:56:11 I took a break from my computer due to well personal reasons, etc Jan 12 06:56:16 it means unixfool is sitting on his ass and has not changed the topic. Jan 12 06:56:19 hehe Jan 12 06:56:20 lo; Jan 12 06:56:22 lol Jan 12 06:56:23 but thats cool. Jan 12 06:56:23 anyone here familiar with samba? Jan 12 06:56:26 he is a good guy. Jan 12 06:56:27 sonnyjz, MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEM Jan 12 06:56:35 I've been idle for a few days, nobody worried about me! Jan 12 06:56:39 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 06:56:41 trying to setup samba to listen to a specific network interface only Jan 12 06:56:52 I have interfaces = eth1 in my smb.conf Jan 12 06:56:55 still listening on eth0 Jan 12 06:57:02 <-- Ava3ar has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 06:57:03 try the IP Jan 12 06:57:14 Sandman1: Heya Jan 12 06:57:22 ok Jan 12 06:57:23 hey Jan 12 06:57:31 and restart samba Jan 12 06:57:33 What up? Jan 12 06:57:43 FriedBob, jaming to megadeth! Jan 12 06:57:51 Cool. Jan 12 06:57:54 Pearl Jam > * Jan 12 06:57:54 I just got off work Jan 12 06:57:57 :D Jan 12 06:58:08 It's 0000hrs. Jan 12 06:58:16 ah Jan 12 06:58:26 I got off of work at 2050 Jan 12 06:58:28 Wed Jan 12 12:57:38 AM EST 2005 Jan 12 06:58:32 got tired of military time Jan 12 06:58:37 lol Jan 12 06:58:45 still no dice Jan 12 06:58:46 my house runs on military time Jan 12 06:59:07 well, 24-hour format :P Jan 12 06:59:15 wow Jan 12 06:59:15 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 06:59:22 why wont copy and paste work Jan 12 06:59:22 military time, unless you are outside the US. Jan 12 06:59:24 what did I break now Jan 12 06:59:28 alias date='date "+%a %b %d %I:%M:%S %p %Z %Y"' Jan 12 06:59:30 there Jan 12 06:59:31 Then it's just "normal" time. Jan 12 06:59:34 Putz: everything runs on 24-hour format here in brazil Jan 12 06:59:44 UdontKnow: Heya. Jan 12 06:59:51 Putz: its so common we dont actually care Jan 12 06:59:56 FriedBob: lo Jan 12 06:59:58 UdontKnow, well I'm in the US, so it's not very common :P Jan 12 07:00:02 hehe Jan 12 07:00:06 UdontKnow: AFAIK, it's that way everywhere other than the US. Jan 12 07:00:08 Putz: otoh, we hate the am/pm thing Jan 12 07:00:17 Except for the military people. Jan 12 07:00:25 And I'm an army brat, so... Jan 12 07:00:26 <-- SuperGear has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 07:00:33 hehe Jan 12 07:00:44 hey UdontKnow Jan 12 07:00:51 hello Sandman1 Jan 12 07:01:01 Sandman1: was a bit worried... you disappeared Jan 12 07:01:11 UdontKnow, yea Jan 12 07:01:17 UdontKnow, I really needed a break from all the crap Jan 12 07:01:22 UdontKnow, computers , everything Jan 12 07:01:29 Sandman1: I understand... Jan 12 07:01:29 UdontKnow, voice in #freenode please? Jan 12 07:01:40 UdontKnow, im still not really back just dropping by Jan 12 07:01:43 Sandman1: Was worried too, esp with all the ops hunting for you. Jan 12 07:01:46 UdontKnow, trying to go slowly back Jan 12 07:01:54 thanks :) Jan 12 07:01:54 Squall`: done Jan 12 07:02:11 Sandman1: nods... might help Jan 12 07:02:22 UdontKnow, a diary does, ;) Jan 12 07:02:29 Sandman1: Still don't have selinux fully working, but I'm a lot closer. Just got a little policy issue to work out. Jan 12 07:02:35 FriedBob, cool Jan 12 07:02:39 --> zaphar (~zaphar@res11585.rh.rit.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:02:44 Also wiped my /home and redid it as ext3 Jan 12 07:02:47 cool Jan 12 07:03:01 Sandman1: Do you run a stock kernel, or a patched? Jan 12 07:03:05 <-- Cirkit has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 07:03:06 FriedBob, compiled Jan 12 07:03:12 stock from kernel.org atm Jan 12 07:03:21 but im going to run -mm soon I just gota get OUTA my little stage Jan 12 07:03:21 I assumed compiled. Jan 12 07:03:28 yea Jan 12 07:03:35 1.1 meg on my server Jan 12 07:03:38 2.6.10 increased in size Jan 12 07:03:53 Sandman1: Where do you get your patches? I've been looking for some, but don't seem to be asking google the right questions. Jan 12 07:04:25 2.6.11 RC1 is out Jan 12 07:04:30 it is changing so fast... Jan 12 07:05:17 It's come to my attention that from a security standpoint, stock 2.6.7 isn't a wise choice. Jan 12 07:05:21 ok gotta sleep Jan 12 07:05:27 Kyle_S: G'night Jan 12 07:05:27 Kyle_S, good night Jan 12 07:05:50 Kyle_S, take care Jan 12 07:05:55 Yay!!! Jan 12 07:05:56 FriedBob, what flaw is in 2.6.7? Jan 12 07:05:59 FriedBob, ER why the hell is my copy and paste not working Jan 12 07:05:59 ffs Jan 12 07:06:01 Night Kyle_S Jan 12 07:06:01 ftp://sandman777.homelinux.com/Scripts/kernelget.py Jan 12 07:06:04 there Jan 12 07:06:11 I don't have class monday. Jan 12 07:06:28 thats what I use FriedBob , my own kernel downloader Jan 12 07:06:30 does a few patches too Jan 12 07:06:39 Sandman1, What do you find so interesting in the mm patches as opposed to the ac patch set? Jan 12 07:06:57 Putz: Dunno, but the guys in #selinux blanched when I said I was running stock 2.6.7 and said I had better have trusted users and other comps on my network. Jan 12 07:07:01 --> SuperGear (~supergear@c-24-9-154-178.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:07:04 <-- ryen has quit ("What would we find, if we were to look behind the border of the Universe?") Jan 12 07:07:09 oh Jan 12 07:07:10 eelriverlt, I like the features in them, switching schedules on the fly, etc Jan 12 07:09:05 Sandman1, There was something I found interesting about the ac patches the other day but I forget what it was Jan 12 07:09:13 ah Jan 12 07:09:21 eelriverlt, I wanna try 2.7 when it can boot Jan 12 07:09:23 when its forked Jan 12 07:09:27 <-- Squall` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 07:09:27 --> broesel (~broesel@p5487D5FB.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:09:39 wha'ts special about 2.7? Jan 12 07:09:46 thr1ce, it will be the 2.8 Jan 12 07:09:48 but its not even forked yet Jan 12 07:10:03 Sandman1, Oh yeah, the usb code Jan 12 07:10:06 i know that; just curious if there's a reason for the desire, other than bleeding edge Jan 12 07:10:35 is 2.6.11 stable yet? Jan 12 07:10:43 RC1 Jan 12 07:10:46 zaphar, www.kernel.org Jan 12 07:10:59 Sandman1, And I haven't really changed kernels since 2.6.8rc-1, so I'm about ready to start breaking things again Jan 12 07:11:19 --> jmedina (~jmedina@209.205.213.234) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:11:34 ok...time for sleep Jan 12 07:11:36 g'night everyone Jan 12 07:11:53 oh ok, I just downloaded 2.6.10 but I was woundering if I should even bother recompiling if 2.6.11 is going to be out soon Jan 12 07:11:59 --> Outpour (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:12:12 I think I may go ahead and upgrade to 2.6.10. Jan 12 07:12:16 one strange thing,when i move from one kernel to the next eth0 becomes eth1 and such Jan 12 07:12:26 <-- thr1ce has quit ("BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") Jan 12 07:12:26 what can slackware do that no other linux distro can't ? Jan 12 07:12:43 Give me a woody Jan 12 07:12:54 --- nixor removes ban on slowdude!~slowdude@*.elp.rr.com Jan 12 07:13:02 you better be talking about Debian... Jan 12 07:13:02 CajunKnight: It's not so much what it can or can't do, but /how/ it does it and the attitudes/ideals of the distro and it's users. Jan 12 07:13:03 hmm anyone know of a good app like gaim.. but for shell only? Jan 12 07:13:06 so slackware is porn ? Jan 12 07:13:10 Outpour, naim Jan 12 07:13:12 Outpour, pork, centericq, naim Jan 12 07:13:12 :P Jan 12 07:13:33 there is, or used to be, a console version of gaim IIRC. Jan 12 07:13:35 no, slackware isn't pr0n Jan 12 07:13:35 CajunKnight, slackware isn't machine specific Jan 12 07:13:45 you can run it on your desktop Jan 12 07:13:47 or your laptop Jan 12 07:13:49 or your server Jan 12 07:13:49 NeoLaptop: The way I have it setup it is.. ;) Jan 12 07:13:51 slackware can survive the weekend, that's what it can do Jan 12 07:13:51 whatever!@ Jan 12 07:13:58 FriedBob, LOL Jan 12 07:14:00 slackware is secure Jan 12 07:14:11 Putz: can it run on my toaster? Jan 12 07:14:13 slackware doesn't have all those bells and whistles Jan 12 07:14:24 FriedBob, you're thinking NetBSD Jan 12 07:14:26 i've had other rpm distros, whose names shall not be mentioned, b0rk themselves before/after update Jan 12 07:14:29 now say why not gentoo distro Jan 12 07:14:29 Putz: I know. Jan 12 07:14:37 they support the Toaster/390 architecture Jan 12 07:14:54 CajunKnight, ok, troll, go back to ##gentoo Jan 12 07:14:57 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:15:00 lol Jan 12 07:15:04 CajunKnight: Want to spend hours compiling everything just so you can install and have a marginal speed improvement? Jan 12 07:15:05 troll Jan 12 07:15:06 another gentoo idiot? Jan 12 07:15:07 he be a Gentoo troll? Jan 12 07:15:19 how many are there tonight, this is the second one tonight Jan 12 07:15:23 Sandman1, not 'idiot', misguided individual Jan 12 07:15:25 he be only in this channel Jan 12 07:15:26 Sandman1: know of any shell based MSN apps Jan 12 07:15:32 Outpour, centericq MIGHT Jan 12 07:15:36 gentoo troll? Jan 12 07:15:38 * Squall` grabs a shotgun Jan 12 07:15:39 but he mentionedeth gentoo Jan 12 07:15:40 NeoLaptop, i done done think yer perty smart Jan 12 07:15:40 I am a few other ones Jan 12 07:15:40 Sandman1: I'm testing some new AI apps. Jan 12 07:15:46 cool Jan 12 07:15:47 <-- nalg0rath (~nalg0rath@h201n1fls35o883.telia.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 07:15:52 Squall`, lol Jan 12 07:15:56 just asking other good opions Jan 12 07:16:02 Sandman1: Writing a new and improved troll bot. Jan 12 07:16:04 I dunno, I wouldn't install a source distro Jan 12 07:16:09 everything got there ideas Jan 12 07:16:12 <-- michaelks has quit () Jan 12 07:16:12 seems too time consuming Jan 12 07:16:21 CajunKnight, www.google.com is for opinions too, and it doesn't get sick of being asked 50,000 times Jan 12 07:16:22 I hate gentoo I spent three days straight installing it and then it wouldn't even work Jan 12 07:16:25 Slackware, on the other hand, I can have running up in 5 minutes Jan 12 07:16:32 zaphar, now be fair, no bashing other distros Jan 12 07:16:34 ok thats honesty I can respect Jan 12 07:16:36 Putz: I compromise. I install the base system from bins and everything else from source. Jan 12 07:16:48 CajunKnight, off to google with you! :D Jan 12 07:16:52 CajunKnight, NeoLaptop is right, you may only bash gentoo Jan 12 07:16:52 --> deez (~deez@ip68-98-179-238.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:16:57 Or distrowatch.com Jan 12 07:16:59 FriedBob, I install everything that's in Slackware as binary, but things that aren't I compile Jan 12 07:17:02 hey im gonna get off here Jan 12 07:17:05 google isn't live thats why I ask here :P Jan 12 07:17:09 Sandman1: G'night Jan 12 07:17:09 'cause i don't trust linuxpackages.net Jan 12 07:17:10 night sandy Jan 12 07:17:11 c-ya mate Jan 12 07:17:12 no seriously it takes way too long to install, even when you do the minimum compile option Jan 12 07:17:12 :D Jan 12 07:17:16 * Sandman1 -BowS- Jan 12 07:17:16 <-- broesel (~broesel@p5487D5FB.dip.t-dialin.net) has left ##slackware Jan 12 07:17:18 night Sandman1 Jan 12 07:17:20 nighty Jan 12 07:17:22 Putz, they put arsenic in their packages Jan 12 07:17:22 personal expereinces thats good Jan 12 07:17:23 CajunKnight: go to distrowatch Jan 12 07:17:28 Squall`, I know! Jan 12 07:17:29 <-- Sandman1 (~ravic@sandman1.user) has left ##slackware ("Love yas") Jan 12 07:17:35 that's why I stopped using it Jan 12 07:17:38 I nearly died last time Jan 12 07:17:49 and where is my official Firefox package?! Jan 12 07:17:50 LOL Jan 12 07:17:51 Putz: Wonder how long it'd take on my dual P90? Jan 12 07:17:54 ok Jan 12 07:17:56 I stick with slackware because it doesn't come loaded with crap, you install what you want Jan 12 07:17:57 damn you, i spit all over my keyboard laughing, Putz Jan 12 07:17:59 FriedBob, geh! Jan 12 07:18:06 thank you gentlemen Jan 12 07:18:17 FriedBob, me, i'd estimate about as long as a pentium running at 150mhz Jan 12 07:18:21 Squall`, don't trink while I'm dalking Jan 12 07:18:37 i was drinking hot chocolate too :| Jan 12 07:18:39 NeoLaptop: Heh Jan 12 07:18:51 How about a 486dx/4 100? Jan 12 07:18:58 Or a 386sx/ 16? Jan 12 07:19:06 say, anyone know how to tweak the screen like you can using xvidtune but works with xorg.conf Jan 12 07:19:08 sounds sexy Jan 12 07:19:30 I just wish I could cluster my 486 collection. Jan 12 07:19:40 FriedBob, gentoo compiles should be a benchmark for themselves lol Jan 12 07:19:46 I can change the screen with xvidtune but I can't figure out how to save the state so it will always load up correctly Jan 12 07:20:08 FriedBob, 486's rule Jan 12 07:20:20 wait no Jan 12 07:20:22 they don't Jan 12 07:20:29 <-- jmedina has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 07:20:30 just wish they had a way to take the best of the best and then put it into one Jan 12 07:20:51 CajunKnight, it's called 'nobodywantstodowhatsbestforeveryoneix' Jan 12 07:21:11 CajunKnight: Each distro has it's own set of goals. Jan 12 07:21:31 Slack doesn't really seem to have a goal except for security and stability, otherwise it's open ended Jan 12 07:21:32 CajunKnight, and www.distrowatch.com is the best place to get a summary of them Jan 12 07:21:36 so ... Jan 12 07:21:37 yes same thing in genitic research Jan 12 07:21:53 Putz: You forget simplicity and the user being in control. Jan 12 07:22:01 FriedBob, I was getting there Jan 12 07:22:08 but I was busy eating my arsenic Jan 12 07:22:19 lol Jan 12 07:22:21 Mmmm, arsenic. Jan 12 07:22:21 ok Jan 12 07:22:44 I won't be able to watch the Simsons for two more days Jan 12 07:22:46 I hate my job Jan 12 07:22:52 Simpsons* Jan 12 07:22:54 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 07:22:55 Putz: TiVo? Jan 12 07:22:59 tape it putz Jan 12 07:23:00 CajunKnight, btw, i've used almost all the distros before, you can talk to me in #hell (as other distros are sort of off-topic in ##slackware) Jan 12 07:23:06 FriedBob, no but I want one and I killed my VCR Jan 12 07:23:07 --> Outpour (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:23:27 Putz: Video capture card and some software, roll your own. Jan 12 07:23:40 FriedBob, I had one, but I sold it to my friend :P Jan 12 07:23:43 Heh Jan 12 07:23:51 I'm eventually gonna get another Jan 12 07:24:21 I killed my VCR because it ate my favorite episodes of News Radio tape Jan 12 07:24:34 ati wonder pro ? Jan 12 07:24:35 <-- W|GG-Laptop has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 12 07:24:36 Any one have some suggestions for kernel patches other than -mm or -ac? Someone in another channel had said something about a -hardening, but I can't seem to find it. Jan 12 07:24:44 CajunKnight, I had a TV Wonder VE Jan 12 07:24:47 it was nice Jan 12 07:24:59 I'm gonna get a better quality one, this time, though Jan 12 07:25:14 for awhile my computer was my TV Jan 12 07:25:17 until I bought a new one Jan 12 07:25:21 slackware detected it ? Jan 12 07:25:34 Slackware has hotplug Jan 12 07:25:38 of course it detected it Jan 12 07:25:42 CajunKnight: That's a kernel issue, not a distro one. Jan 12 07:25:45 woohoo Jan 12 07:25:46 and it was supported Jan 12 07:25:52 thats what I like hotplug Jan 12 07:25:52 bt848 Jan 12 07:26:03 worked beautifully Jan 12 07:26:05 I will try it then Jan 12 07:26:08 except I used OSS at the time Jan 12 07:26:16 I got two cd's already to use Jan 12 07:26:26 adn the sound was crap on OSS Jan 12 07:26:29 man tring to find out how to reencode an ac3 with higher volume . to wav is out for me 300ac3 man thats would be onehugh wav:) Jan 12 07:26:39 Old Sound System? Or did they call it Obsolete Sound System? Can't recall what the kernel comments were. Jan 12 07:26:44 Open? Jan 12 07:26:52 but the comments say ' Jan 12 07:26:54 OLD' Jan 12 07:27:29 My sound card seems to kill my cdrom when I try to use both. Jan 12 07:27:37 you using ALSA? Jan 12 07:27:42 aye Jan 12 07:27:43 lol Jan 12 07:27:45 hrm Jan 12 07:27:48 never had that Jan 12 07:27:51 sorry had to laugh at that one Jan 12 07:27:52 and an ISA SB Jan 12 07:27:53 I stopped using my other burner Jan 12 07:28:01 ISA SB, jeez Jan 12 07:28:02 <-- seemawn has quit () Jan 12 07:28:05 with an hp something or other 6x burner Jan 12 07:28:06 it took its power sounds like Jan 12 07:28:37 I'm not sure if it's just a certain CD that was causing the problems, and unrelated to the soundcard Jan 12 07:28:38 or the analog audio cable is shorting Jan 12 07:28:42 No cable Jan 12 07:28:45 oh Jan 12 07:28:45 well Jan 12 07:28:51 then it's not the sound card Jan 12 07:29:07 Was thinking it might be a resource conflict. Jan 12 07:29:13 that's what I'm thinking Jan 12 07:29:15 --> Analyzer (~Analyzer@ts3-a207.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:29:32 It's that or a poorly burned CD that's making the cdrom crap out. Jan 12 07:29:36 hm Jan 12 07:29:45 Haven't gotten around to finding out for sure. Jan 12 07:29:49 where i can download dropline? Jan 12 07:29:55 Analyzer, dropline.net Jan 12 07:30:06 Analyzer: Google for it, or ask in #droline or ##dropline Jan 12 07:30:16 s/droline/dropline/ Jan 12 07:30:45 Been too busy with work and trying to get selinux up and running. Jan 12 07:31:04 sewhat?! Jan 12 07:31:12 * Putz shudders Jan 12 07:31:19 :P Jan 12 07:31:50 are there a lot of channels going to the ## rule lately? Jan 12 07:32:02 Only the non-official ones. Jan 12 07:32:04 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:32:16 right Jan 12 07:32:27 Seems #OpenOffice.org and #selinux are official. Jan 12 07:32:44 #linux moved to ##, or so I've heard. Jan 12 07:32:49 --> Nobbie (~corne@196.14.84.222) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:32:57 heya =) Jan 12 07:32:58 it did that a LONG time ago Jan 12 07:33:08 I don't hang there, so *shrug* Jan 12 07:33:11 whats with the ## ? Jan 12 07:33:15 fc3 has selinux Jan 12 07:33:16 Caveman, oh my god Jan 12 07:33:23 you're only the 2908379475th person to ask Jan 12 07:33:31 CajunKnight: Yeah, Fedora maintains the patches for SELinux now. Jan 12 07:33:33 read freenode.org's channel registration policy Jan 12 07:33:33 :) Jan 12 07:33:34 Squall`: thats cool. whats the answer ? Jan 12 07:33:37 #gnu is official Jan 12 07:33:41 Squall`: hmm ok. Jan 12 07:33:43 ## is for unoffcial channels Jan 12 07:33:47 CajunKnight: NSA just does the core packages. Jan 12 07:33:49 # is for official channels Jan 12 07:33:55 oh ok. Jan 12 07:33:57 Fedora does the userland patches. Jan 12 07:33:57 and slackware is porting to theres I assume Jan 12 07:34:10 since Pat has never actually recognzied this channel, it has to be ##slackware Jan 12 07:34:17 slackware doesn't port. slackware is an original, independent linux distro Jan 12 07:34:20 www.distrowatch.com Jan 12 07:34:30 Putz, very much thenks Jan 12 07:34:31 expect to see other channels change too Jan 12 07:34:32 pat recognizes irc.oftc.net/#slackware Jan 12 07:34:37 he does? Jan 12 07:34:39 see whith so many projects for security going Jan 12 07:34:40 Putz, yep, or did. Jan 12 07:34:43 i've never been to oftc Jan 12 07:34:50 is that a decent server and a decent room? Jan 12 07:34:53 he acknowledges them in his releases Jan 12 07:34:54 he mentioned them, i don't think it was an endorsement, but i'm not sure Jan 12 07:34:58 --> althalus (~althalus@c-67-170-176-30.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:35:02 since they do the torrents Jan 12 07:35:09 Squall`, OFTC is decent Jan 12 07:35:20 Squall`: any links to this policy ? Jan 12 07:35:25 I don't runa server but I guess it comes in handy when apps go buggy Jan 12 07:35:36 CajunKnight: No, I'm hacking my slackware to use SELinux. Jan 12 07:35:42 my network had its signature channel there for awhile after moving from here until we got our own network Jan 12 07:35:47 Caveman, freenode.org, it's on the main page Jan 12 07:35:54 <-- Cirkit has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 07:35:58 it was nice and reliable Jan 12 07:36:00 Had to install cracklib, which is fine, but I also had to install PAM. Jan 12 07:36:15 <-- qmasterrr has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 07:36:16 * NeoLaptop prefers real butter to pam Jan 12 07:36:25 haha Jan 12 07:36:34 Since Slack is one of the few major distros to still not use PAM by default. Jan 12 07:36:50 yeah real butter mmmm Jan 12 07:36:53 for there reasons Jan 12 07:36:53 FriedBob, ever asked Patrick why not? Jan 12 07:37:04 * eelriverlt when to school with someone who died huffing pam Jan 12 07:37:16 there should be a wiki site as to why things are NOT included in slackware lol Jan 12 07:37:17 NeoLaptop: No, but I've seen it discussed some here, something to the effect of 95% of slackers don't need it. Jan 12 07:37:31 I dun need it Jan 12 07:37:44 i wonder what the typical use for slackare really is. me, i prefer it, but all i ever do is desktop/home stuff Jan 12 07:37:45 what you need pam for Jan 12 07:37:48 NeoLaptop: Never written Pat, actually. Jan 12 07:37:56 oneforall, cooking veggies in a pan? Jan 12 07:38:05 oneforall: Cause I want to install SELinux w/o rewriting it to not use PAM. Jan 12 07:38:07 FriedBob, go ahead, no harm in doing it i guess Jan 12 07:38:29 but still, someone really needs to maintain a wiki site with a list of things not included in slackware, and why lol :D Jan 12 07:38:40 --> OutpourDCC (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:38:43 so many people must email Patrick "why don't you include ____ ?" Jan 12 07:38:43 what you need SELinux for Jan 12 07:38:45 :) Jan 12 07:38:48 would make pat's life easier Jan 12 07:38:50 pam Jan 12 07:38:52 lol Jan 12 07:38:55 NeoLaptop: Yeah. I may write and ask for pam and it's patches to be put in /extra at least. Jan 12 07:38:59 pluggable authentication modules Jan 12 07:39:06 FriedBob, yeah, or slackcare Jan 12 07:39:35 its saids it for graphic Jan 12 07:39:43 NeoLaptop, common usage for slack is anything Jan 12 07:39:45 well I don't need pam make that 96% now Jan 12 07:39:53 Putz, exactly, and what is anything? :D Jan 12 07:39:59 oneforall, lol Jan 12 07:40:00 oneforall: Don't need it, just saw it when I was compiling my kernel and wanted to play. Jan 12 07:40:01 server desktop mobile Jan 12 07:40:06 general purpose Jan 12 07:40:16 --> jmknsd (~jmknsd@user-12hcdqa.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:40:22 vanilla! Jan 12 07:40:32 I use slack cause it works well with my hardware and most of the other distros refused to install. Jan 12 07:40:45 And/or were too slow and tried to force me to use X for everything. Jan 12 07:40:46 I use slack because it's performant Jan 12 07:40:59 i use slackware because -current stays more up to date, which means i get features before some rpm-distro releases them Jan 12 07:41:03 SuSE installed like a dog on my old system Jan 12 07:41:08 Slack went on, piece of cake Jan 12 07:41:13 i'm using kde 3.3 when even mandrake 10.1 (newest mandrake) isn't even using 3.3 kde yet Jan 12 07:41:26 * NeoLaptop is dizzy Jan 12 07:41:29 slackware have system for automatic update system packages? Jan 12 07:41:32 ok ok ya'll win slack wins Jan 12 07:41:32 the day a girl says RTFM when your tring to pick her up is a sad day.. Jan 12 07:41:38 Analyzer, no, make your own using rsync Jan 12 07:41:45 oneforall: Lol. Jan 12 07:41:47 oneforall, yeah Jan 12 07:41:50 Analyzer, rsync and upgradepkg Jan 12 07:41:51 oneforall: haha Jan 12 07:41:59 Pat on PAM--> http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-9.1/ChangeLog.txt Tue Sep 23 21:57:32 PDT 2003 Jan 12 07:42:04 oneforall, but i would've said something smart like "well i'm busy rewriting it" Jan 12 07:42:20 Speaking of which, I showed my GF that geek lover tank, and she loves it, and would even wear it. Jan 12 07:42:28 --> ma (~m@CPE0004e23a0211-CM014500115762.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:42:29 then she'd have a long wait .. Jan 12 07:42:31 the geek lover tank from thinkgeek Jan 12 07:42:51 --> Lupust (~sjordan@ip68-103-21-81.ks.ok.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:43:11 Swiss Cheese Authentication Modules hehe Jan 12 07:43:45 eelriverlt, nice, thanx Jan 12 07:43:50 <-- zaphar has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 07:44:28 np, Jan 12 07:44:28 SCAM! Jan 12 07:45:52 NeoLaptop: Well, guess there's no point in asking /that/ question. ;) Jan 12 07:46:06 :D Jan 12 07:47:13 <-- ma has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 07:48:24 Am I right the majority here don't like spamm we like butter. lets se the hands raised . Jan 12 07:48:36 The idea behind PAM is a good one, even if it's not the best implementation. Jan 12 07:48:53 how can i find out which version of ssh and apache i am running? Jan 12 07:49:03 oneforall: You know how margarine is "partially hydrogenated oil" ? Jan 12 07:49:38 OutpourDCC: ssh -V or so, and possibly the serverstatus URL of your apache, if it's enabled. Jan 12 07:49:41 hmm pam or marg.. do I really have to pick :( Jan 12 07:49:59 oneforall: Do you know what you get if you fully hydrogenate oil? Jan 12 07:50:11 sick Jan 12 07:50:15 Plastic Jan 12 07:50:26 FriedBob, not always, depends Jan 12 07:50:38 ah thats why silicone chick love margrine eh Jan 12 07:50:54 NeoLaptop: Oh? Jan 12 07:51:21 FriedBob, well i mean, i wouldn't think that merely _any_ fully hydrogenated oil = plastic, but i could be wrong Jan 12 07:51:32 ok on installing slackware and choseing a partion formate ex. ext2 or ext3 or rei something format whats the most recommended ? Jan 12 07:51:33 still, i prefer the "if it's natural, not man-made, it's good for you" Jan 12 07:52:07 <-- OutpourDCC has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 07:52:11 CajunKnight, it almost don't matter. ext2 though, if you lost power, would take a while to run fsck on it (file system check). use ext3 or reisers. me, i prefer reisers because i think it's better. Jan 12 07:52:28 yeah just like natural boobie I prefer too . Jan 12 07:52:39 --> OutpourDCC (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:52:41 ok thank you Jan 12 07:52:48 NeoLaptop: Don't you still need an initrd for reiser on / ? Jan 12 07:53:07 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 07:53:07 oh .. Jan 12 07:53:17 FriedBob, since when? reisers = compiled right into almost all slackware kernels, afaik Jan 12 07:53:37 --> mmu_man (revol@ALyon-112-1-18-104.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:53:37 NeoLaptop: I could be wrong. Jan 12 07:53:51 I brought a can of worms on that one hehe Jan 12 07:54:22 CajunKnight: Naw, I probably don't know what I'm talking about. Jan 12 07:54:24 FriedBob, it's = YES in kernel config on mine (bareacpi.i -current) Jan 12 07:54:39 still I lose my power during bad weather sometimes when I am not home Jan 12 07:54:59 NeoLaptop: Ok, just had thought I had seen something saying that. Probably thinking of something else. Jan 12 07:55:10 ok then they probley inproved on it Jan 12 07:55:19 Or thinking of an older kernel. Jan 12 07:55:27 or resier4 or something. Jan 12 07:55:41 I dunno, it's late here. Jan 12 07:55:42 FriedBob, i think in the 2.6.x testing kernel in /testing, reiserfs is NOT included, it's a module ... Jan 12 07:55:53 NeoLaptop: That might be it. Jan 12 07:56:11 ok then Jan 12 07:56:48 OutpourDCC, httpd -v Jan 12 07:56:49 ya'll guys are very helpful and patiant thank you for being here :) Jan 12 07:57:03 NeoLaptop: Then again, first thing done after an install is kernel recompile anyways, right? Jan 12 07:57:03 <-- sonnyjz has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 07:57:22 CajunKnight: Only some of us. Others are helpful but rather brusque/impatient. Jan 12 07:57:49 gotcha Jan 12 07:57:50 FriedBob, no, i'm on a totally unadulterated -current installation, but i'm on a centrino laptop and i have no needs, except maybe xfce 2.4 RC3 Jan 12 07:57:53 --> jesava (z@c-f6b470d5.012-16-67766c2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:58:03 FriedBob, Who? Name one...:) Jan 12 07:58:28 eelriverlt: ananke is the main one I had in mind, but I think most of us here (including him) knew that. Jan 12 07:58:47 --> icestorm (~menot@VA1-1D-u-0647.mc.onolab.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:59:02 well ananke _can_ be a b1tch, but he's not a bad guy, just comes across as a b1tch i guess ... Jan 12 07:59:06 well I am gone gnight all Jan 12 07:59:07 <-- icestorm (~menot@VA1-1D-u-0647.mc.onolab.com) has left ##slackware Jan 12 07:59:08 --- craig_ is now known as meta-ridley Jan 12 07:59:11 i can be a pain in the 455 sometimes too Jan 12 07:59:12 hi. does anyone know of a ftp client app that can download a ftp servers whole directory structure (file and everything included)? LIST -lR is not supported by the site (thats why i need something else) Jan 12 07:59:15 --> icestorm (~menot@VA1-1D-u-0647.mc.onolab.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:59:19 jesava, wget? Jan 12 07:59:20 <-- CajunKnight has quit ("peace") Jan 12 07:59:35 --> NeuNeu (~neuneu@ADSL-TPLUS-14-58.intnet.mu) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 07:59:36 not really, if you aren't an ass to ananke, he is generally not an ass to you Jan 12 07:59:37 NeoLaptop: Yeah, wasn't saying he wasn't a good guy. I rather enjoy his overall demeanor, but then again, I'm not on the receiving side. Jan 12 07:59:48 NeoLaptop: hmm.. doesnt that retreive files? Jan 12 08:00:05 ananke is a kde person though, don't piss him off by talking about gnome lol :P Jan 12 08:00:09 NeoLaptop, You were the first one to ever verbal me here (I deserved it of course) Jan 12 08:00:17 jesava, yeah, and i've used it to do what you're asking Jan 12 08:00:30 eelriverlt, that's ok, i've been verballed enough too though :D Jan 12 08:00:38 NeoLaptop: hmm. ok. mind explaining how ? Jan 12 08:00:56 like the time i pissed everyone off that was using slack 9.1 saying that it was unstable compared to 9, it was my fault Jan 12 08:01:07 Hmm Jan 12 08:01:13 jesava, "man wget" ? there's a "recursive" option, i think it's -r Jan 12 08:01:21 i burned the 9.1 cds wrong Jan 12 08:01:55 I want to get kernel 2.6.10, but I want full source, not a patch, and all I'm seeing is patches, unless I'm looking at it wrong. Jan 12 08:02:26 FriedBob, uh, http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.10.tar.bz2 Jan 12 08:02:39 click the "F" Jan 12 08:02:42 FriedBob, click on the f to the right Jan 12 08:03:03 i used to toy around with 2.6.x, but not any more, i'm content with -current Jan 12 08:03:43 --> Squall`` (~squall@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 08:04:02 I switched to 2.6 because the usb support seemed more evolved Jan 12 08:04:11 Ok, I just overlooked it then, sorry. Jan 12 08:04:57 It's 0100, and I had long day at work, 8 and a half hours of near nonstop running around making subs. Jan 12 08:04:59 NeoLaptop: hmm. i tried -r -nr .. however. i do not want to download any files.. i just want the dirlist Jan 12 08:05:10 oh Jan 12 08:05:12 weird Jan 12 08:05:17 well keep reading the manual Jan 12 08:05:54 anyone have a good tutorial on setting up a DNS server ? Jan 12 08:06:12 OutpourDCC: the LDP perhaps? Jan 12 08:06:32 Or sandman1's site, but dunno the URL of it. Jan 12 08:06:32 <-- _Daedric has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 08:06:41 LDP? Jan 12 08:07:14 Linux Documentation Project Jan 12 08:07:18 --> Daedric (~noneof@adslsapo-b5-209-155.telepac.pt) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 08:07:23 They host almost all the HOWTOs. Jan 12 08:08:06 http://www.tldp.org/ Jan 12 08:08:28 <-- jmknsd has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 08:09:22 NeoLaptop: got it working now..thanks Jan 12 08:09:39 jesava, no problem, i just told you to rtfm, that's all, just in a nice way lol Jan 12 08:10:03 hehe..well i had no clue wget could do it Jan 12 08:10:03 =) Jan 12 08:10:28 NeoLaptop: I thought "RTFM" /was/ the nice way? Jan 12 08:12:56 --> phiend (~phiend@64.86.231.103) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 08:13:29 "Configure the ``/etc/hosts'' file as needed." if the domain is somedomain.com then i should have the corresponding ip for that domain in there? Jan 12 08:13:38 <-- Pechorin has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 12 08:14:14 but should it be the LAN interface ip or the WAN one? Jan 12 08:14:52 what's the difference? Jan 12 08:15:03 between a LAN or WAN ip.. Jan 12 08:15:14 --> ksandre (1000@d-65-175-146-195.metrocast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 08:15:27 well one would be the internal ip and one the external (box has to NICs) Jan 12 08:16:04 aha Jan 12 08:16:18 I thought you were talking about different types of ip-numbers :D Jan 12 08:16:27 --> Pechorin (~cabrilo@ppp-66-139-122-24.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 08:16:55 <-- jesava has quit ("!") Jan 12 08:17:35 --> AllenOne (~atari@68.188.175.165.bay.mi.chartermi.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 08:17:41 whats up! Jan 12 08:18:34 <-- jota has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 08:19:05 FriedBob, the secret is to tell them it without actually SAYING "RTFM" Jan 12 08:19:09 :D Jan 12 08:20:54 --> moschi_ (~moschi@home-ppp3-183.colorado.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 08:21:05 <-- althalus has quit () Jan 12 08:21:30 <-- moschi has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 08:25:58 <-- Tukon has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 08:27:48 NeoLaptop: But, that would require being subtle and tactful. Jan 12 08:27:49 <-- AeroFoam has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 08:28:15 FriedBob, those are some 1337 social skillz Jan 12 08:28:31 <-- PrplNrpl has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 08:29:04 <-- Analyzer has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 12 08:29:10 NeoLaptop: I'm afraid I'm normally only subtle in some of my applications of sarcasm and irony, and on occasion, innuendo. As for tact, only when I want to be or think it'll be helpful to me. Jan 12 08:29:36 i have to deal with people all the time, part of the territory Jan 12 08:29:36 <-- OutpourDCC has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 08:29:42 --> Outpour (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 08:29:45 I don't really care for sugar coating things, one of the reasons I like Slack. Jan 12 08:29:57 NeoLaptop: I do too, I just don't always like it. Jan 12 08:30:23 I work in a subshop, and just got a job as a receptionist/gopher on campus for the math department. Jan 12 08:30:33 yeah, talking like we do here in #mandrake will make people cry lol Jan 12 08:31:39 NeoLaptop: One of the reasons I find ananke so refreshing. Jan 12 08:32:02 NeoLaptop: The other day I asked him if his day job was a BOFH, and he said yes. Jan 12 08:33:04 those who don't know what BOFH is are so missing out on life Jan 12 08:33:20 Oi, I've had to reboot my slack box so many times over the last few days, my 98se box has better uptime. Jan 12 08:33:21 And what does that have to do with slackware? Jan 12 08:33:23 i used to have the fortune bofh mod Jan 12 08:34:18 I'll have to look for that. I want to add a bunch of Steve Wright quotes to my fortune. Jan 12 08:35:06 eelriverlt: The uptime thing? Nothing, it's just from the mods I've made and trying to get them to work. Keep having to drop to single user mode. Jan 12 08:35:11 nothing like logging in and getting a bofh-ism Jan 12 08:35:31 I've got mine setup so I get a fortune at login and out. Jan 12 08:35:36 FriedBob, No, that was a "anankeism" Jan 12 08:36:09 eelriverlt: Ahh. wasn't sure if you were referring to the uptime comment, or the discussion in general. Jan 12 08:36:46 Just life in general Jan 12 08:36:53 --- nixor removes ban on *!*@Toronto-HSE-ppp3658162.sympatico.ca Jan 12 08:37:19 oh no, ohoh is unbanned Jan 12 08:37:51 --> OutpourDCC (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 08:38:46 eelriverlt: Probably only until the next join attempt. Jan 12 08:40:26 --> d3ity (1000@207.172.254.149) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 08:40:26 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@207.172.254.149 Jan 12 08:40:27 <-- nixor has kicked d3ity from ##slackware (banned: d3ity - perm ban - constant trolling) Jan 12 08:40:41 like that Jan 12 08:41:04 Questions does anyone if top can monitor PPIDS and its children process Jan 12 08:41:05 <-- OutpourDCC has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 08:41:19 ....no s on Question :| Jan 12 08:41:19 I've got a tough decision to make soon. Gotta pick between gettin a truck or a computer with my tax refund and leftover PELL money. Jan 12 08:41:33 FriedBob, get a Mac Mini :) Jan 12 08:41:41 AllenOne: Dunno, I'd say check the docs. Jan 12 08:41:55 AllenOne: If I get a Mac, which I may, it'll be a dual G5 Jan 12 08:42:16 ...hrm, I'm checking man and not seeing it, thought someone might know some TOP-FOO that I didn't :) Jan 12 08:42:23 --> OutpourDCC (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 08:42:31 Yeah I wish I could afford a dual g5 but I dunno if I love mac that much Jan 12 08:42:39 AllenOne: Try tops internal help? Jan 12 08:42:51 I get a decent student discount, that helps. Jan 12 08:43:05 But what's sad is, the Mac'll cost more than the truck. Jan 12 08:43:18 Ahhhh, I bet that does. Apple is pretty generious with student discounts Jan 12 08:43:29 Couple hundred. Jan 12 08:43:41 Plus a few more on the monitor. Jan 12 08:44:04 But for what I want, still looking at about $3K Jan 12 08:44:33 not bad. The only issue I see with the mini is the DV out ...My LCD is still vga, I wonder if you can get an adapter for that? Jan 12 08:44:53 .....if they would of came out with this 2 years ago, I wouldn't be about 2 g in the hole from my ibook Jan 12 08:44:55 Probably, but dunno. Jan 12 08:45:05 --> AeroFoam (~aerofoam@68-185-0-156.or.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 08:45:33 I'd kinda like to get an S-10 or such, and put a diesel engine in it. Jan 12 08:45:48 that would be nice Jan 12 08:46:04 My dad is muck'n with a smaller S10 right now Jan 12 08:46:24 Some sort of ...s10 with balls....idea Jan 12 08:46:58 Esp since there are kits you can get to let your diesel engine run off of vegetable oil/old grease (from frying). Jan 12 08:47:25 Which I'd like to do as well, since I know someone who works at BK so it'd be easy to get it from them. Jan 12 08:49:18 --> kerio2004 (~Port@210.213.151.72) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 08:49:43 that would be nice Jan 12 08:49:53 I got alot of grease from my FryDaddy Jan 12 08:49:55 :-D Jan 12 08:50:09 Just have the extra tank and filters in the bed, under a toolbox or something. Jan 12 08:50:25 One of the big ones that is as wide as the bed and perm-mounted Jan 12 08:50:51 --> sonnyjz (~sonnyjz@pcp04970185pcs.audubn01.nj.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 08:51:21 you could also turn your truck into a Fry Stand!....sell them at school and work and such Jan 12 08:51:22 lol Jan 12 08:52:03 FriedBob's ChevyFries? Jan 12 08:52:23 --> PrplNrpl (~aerofoam@68-185-0-156.or.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 08:53:12 FriedBob, hahah hell yeah, and make the fries in the shape of the chevy logo Jan 12 08:53:16 <-- NeuNeu has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 08:53:17 <-- bsdevious has quit () Jan 12 08:54:02 <-- PrplNrpl has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 08:54:52 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 08:55:02 I wonder if my filesystem is done relabling yet. BRB Jan 12 08:55:46 --- NeoLaptop is now known as BashBoy Jan 12 08:55:46 k Jan 12 08:55:50 http://www.bash.org/?3787 Jan 12 08:55:50 --> Outpour (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 08:56:18 <-- OutpourDCC has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 08:57:12 http://www.bash.org/?7498 Jan 12 08:57:31 <-- UZY (~jack@200-103-150-114.ctame7041.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has left ##slackware Jan 12 08:57:49 --> UZY (~jack@200-103-150-114.ctame7041.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 09:00:39 http://www.bash.org/?50348 Jan 12 09:01:13 ls Jan 12 09:01:59 wrong window Jan 12 09:02:03 --- BashBoy is now known as NeoLaptop Jan 12 09:02:58 ello... Jan 12 09:03:38 It's done, but now I gotta copy my syslog to this box so I can share some errors. Jan 12 09:03:42 hw wil stop nautilus from opening other window if i open another folder..? Jan 12 09:03:59 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2004_Indonesia_Tsunami_Complete.gif Jan 12 09:04:01 i want to open a new folder from the same window... Jan 12 09:04:09 that's friggin' crazy Jan 12 09:04:36 --> BadM0nkey (~null@dialup-4.156.114.161.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 09:07:07 --> fsk1 (~chino@pcp09995929pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 09:07:16 how big should my swap be ? i dont remember ? Jan 12 09:09:20 heh, :| twice the ram size Jan 12 09:09:21 3 gb Jan 12 09:09:38 since when is it twice the ram ? Jan 12 09:09:42 i just read that on a web page too Jan 12 09:09:48 1 terabyte Jan 12 09:09:53 <-- sami_ has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 12 09:10:10 i suffer from ADD as well :) Jan 12 09:10:23 http://www.bash.org/?14886 Jan 12 09:10:31 we suffer from it too Jan 12 09:10:36 you make us suffer Jan 12 09:10:38 just kidding Jan 12 09:11:41 how do you do math at the shell ? Jan 12 09:11:47 the shell can do math righ t? Jan 12 09:11:49 fsk1: It's pretty much always been twice the ram, but only up to a certain point. Jan 12 09:12:04 --> OutpourDCC (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 09:12:04 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 09:12:27 fsk1, learn python Jan 12 09:12:33 "python" the command Jan 12 09:12:38 then 24+8 or whatever Jan 12 09:12:41 just read and read Jan 12 09:12:41 just be careful Jan 12 09:12:44 http://www.bash.org/?23106 Jan 12 09:12:51 till your eyes fall out Jan 12 09:12:54 <-- maddler has quit ("connection reset by beer!") Jan 12 09:13:04 no im booted of the slack cd im doin a install i just wanted to devide the ram size i got from cat /proc/meminfo Jan 12 09:14:41 where does slackware keep its ulimits Jan 12 09:17:15 --> yBadM0nke (~null@dialup-4.156.114.216.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 09:18:52 SiegeX: Between it's tlimits and vlimits? (sorry, sorta) Jan 12 09:19:17 http://www.bash.org/?416931 omg Jan 12 09:19:51 heh, thanks for being only sorta sorry Jan 12 09:21:03 man this sucks Jan 12 09:21:13 <-- xemon has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 12 09:21:16 sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `man' Jan 12 09:21:16 sh: -c: line 0: `for i in "this sucks" do; man $i; done' Jan 12 09:21:25 sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `;' Jan 12 09:21:25 sh: -c: line 0: `for i in "this sucks"; do; man $i; done' Jan 12 09:21:26 hah I work for ford, so thats really funny Jan 12 09:22:00 http://www.bash.org/?6658 Jan 12 09:22:02 /usr/include/ulimit.h Jan 12 09:22:21 for i in "this sucks"; do man $i; done Jan 12 09:22:28 no ';' after do Jan 12 09:28:41 --> sami_ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 09:30:51 http://www.bash.org/?307625 Jan 12 09:31:34 http://www.bash.org/?384735 Jan 12 09:31:56 You know what is kinda sad? When usenet conversations move faster than ones on IRC... Jan 12 09:33:53 --> LM (~rlm@n216.isratek.edunet.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 09:34:21 <-- Squall` has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 09:34:30 <-- Squall`` has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 09:34:34 <-- OutpourDCC has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 09:34:39 --> Outpour (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 09:34:59 But it is good to see a large number of GPG sigs on the list messages. Jan 12 09:36:06 <-- jmr has quit ("« Ë×Çü®§îöñ » Info~[v9.5]~ Released~[October 27, 2003]~") Jan 12 09:38:47 whats faster a mem chip which is wider and has 4 big chips or one with like 8 smaller chips but they both have the same capacity ? Jan 12 09:39:23 hi! i got "Squirrelmail - ERROR : Connection dropped by imap-server." on my browser. How can i figure out this? Jan 12 09:39:39 --> radiohead (~dev_loop@80.80.160.51) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 09:40:35 Hmmm. Shipping is "only" 400 USD. Jan 12 09:41:28 ##slackware hello Jan 12 09:42:21 <-- boerst` has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 09:42:21 heh Jan 12 09:43:03 hi radiohead Jan 12 09:43:21 lo Cyberjames FriedBob and others Jan 12 09:43:32 foureyes779: For a diesel engine, and shipping to anywhere in the lower 48, that's not bad at all. ;P Jan 12 09:43:41 radiohead: Oi oi Jan 12 09:44:08 :) Jan 12 09:44:48 yyyyyyeaaaaaaaaaa! :) Jan 12 09:44:57 my radeon 9200se Jan 12 09:45:05 now working on slackware 10 :) Jan 12 09:45:08 --> Frost` (~Weiss@IGLD-83-130-208-184.inter.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 09:45:09 with x.org Jan 12 09:45:10 <-- BadM0nkey has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 09:45:12 --- LM is now known as rlm Jan 12 09:45:30 Oi! It's way past my bedtime. G'night Jan 12 09:45:57 It's 0245 already. :<, and I gotta work tomorrow. Jan 12 09:46:10 <-- FriedBob has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 12 09:47:54 --> OutpourDCC (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 09:47:54 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 09:51:38 http://www.bash.org/?384735 Jan 12 09:57:11 --> Squall`` (~squall@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 09:57:42 <-- rlm has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 12 09:58:41 --> Outpour (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 10:01:01 Ok, that last one was good Jan 12 10:02:12 <-- Frost^ has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 12 10:02:13 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 10:02:22 --> Outpour (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 10:02:47 I've been cleaning out all the crap from /home on my laptop, got almost 2g out already Jan 12 10:05:19 <-- yBadM0nke has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 10:05:41 <-- NeoLaptop has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 10:10:49 --> fracan (~fracan@d150-57-93.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 10:12:06 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 10:14:37 <-- fracan (~fracan@d150-57-93.home.cgocable.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 10:15:52 --> Soulsssss (~soul@S01060012171a777b.wp.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 10:15:52 <-- OutpourDCC has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 12 10:18:02 <-- oneforall has quit ("I like Boobies") Jan 12 10:22:42 --> NeoLaptop (~robert@24.177.219.254) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 10:22:57 <-- NeoLaptop has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 10:24:05 --> bsdevious (~bsd@solarisforums.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 10:24:41 --> NeoLaptop (~robert@24.177.219.254) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 10:26:54 <-- NeoLaptop has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 10:27:35 --> NeoLaptop (~NeoLaptop@24.177.219.254) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 10:29:29 --> oneforall (guru@216.123.245.148) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 10:30:18 --> LM (~rlm@n216.isratek.edunet.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 10:30:56 <-- JustinTArthur has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 10:32:05 --> luineancaion (~luineanca@202-74-203-245.ue.woosh.co.nz) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 10:32:18 hey anyone any good with hex? 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Jan 12 10:53:21 can't figure out what the heck is wrong with it Jan 12 10:53:42 --> _mps_ (~mps@carol-225-216-097.ctbctelecom.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 10:54:54 --- nixor removes ban on *!*@207.172.254.149 Jan 12 10:55:05 <-- havran has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 10:55:39 rebewt: yeh chuck it in a [pastebin somewhere Jan 12 10:56:11 hang on a sec Jan 12 10:56:22 <-- fsk1 (~chino@pcp09995929pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) has left ##slackware Jan 12 10:58:35 --> Squall`` (~squall@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 10:58:49 http://81.230.24.241/~rebewt/iptables Jan 12 10:59:23 the net works on the machine running that script but not on any other machines in my network Jan 12 10:59:48 that same script worked perfectly before i changed to an ISP who uses PPPoE Jan 12 10:59:54 --> factotum (~factotum@c68.191.145.187.dul.mn.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 11:01:26 <-- factotum has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 11:03:27 <-- war- has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 11:05:48 --> havran (~havran@158.195.102.161) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 11:07:48 --> OutpourDCC (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 11:07:48 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 11:09:43 --> [Granger] (Ecto@c-265f70d5.033-47-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 11:11:59 <-- havran has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 11:14:29 --> havran (~havran@158.195.102.161) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 11:18:48 --> elektronisch (~elek@cerberus.cs.und.nodak.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 11:20:16 --> epic (~epic@220.80-202-211.nextgentel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 11:21:01 --> keanne (~riken@mnc02.mei.co.jp) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 11:23:15 --> Outpour (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 11:23:15 <-- OutpourDCC has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 11:28:48 <-- Squall`` has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 12 11:33:34 --> Tw33Ty (~Tw33Ty___@81.10.60.82) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 11:36:32 --> Neur0 (~nick@203.134.139.200) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 11:36:34 --> Neurotoxin (1001@nc-65-40-164-133.sta.sprint-hsd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 11:48:57 <-- eelriverlt (~murph@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) has left ##slackware Jan 12 11:49:11 booya Jan 12 11:57:29 <-- Andrew- has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 12 11:57:38 <-- _mps_ (~mps@carol-225-216-097.ctbctelecom.com.br) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 11:58:18 <-- Tw33Ty has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 12:00:01 --> Squall`` (~squall@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 12:01:33 booya? Jan 12 12:03:05 many windows users run scared when they here a linux user say that Jan 12 12:03:50 haha Jan 12 12:04:33 BU! Jan 12 12:05:38 I am configuring a box Jan 12 12:06:21 http://pastebin.com/227975 this is a dual amd opteron box Jan 12 12:07:05 and I also have a p4 3.2GHZ 1GB ram and 240 GB sata 128 ATI and a dvd+rw and a dvd-rom Jan 12 12:07:13 which one would u choose? Jan 12 12:07:21 the opteron or the p4? Jan 12 12:07:32 ? for what Jan 12 12:07:38 depends Jan 12 12:07:50 for home Jan 12 12:09:17 the two cost almost the same Jan 12 12:09:24 the opteron may cost a litle bit more Jan 12 12:09:30 opetron seems fine to me Jan 12 12:09:52 I dunno why pppl choose opteron Jan 12 12:09:57 I mean p4 has 1mb cache Jan 12 12:10:03 and opteron has less I think Jan 12 12:10:32 how about the other specs of the opteron box? Jan 12 12:10:47 --> willwork4foo (~xxxx@fluorine.eu.sun.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 12:10:47 <-- epic has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 12:11:33 te p4? Jan 12 12:11:38 the p4? Jan 12 12:11:54 let me check Jan 12 12:12:50 --> duardo (~Eduardo@200.168.58.218) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 12:13:18 hey, i have pdf document here....only i can't select/highlight the text inside the document with gpdf, xpdf, kpdf. Yet, its fine on a windows machine..anyone got any ideas? Jan 12 12:13:51 the opteron 242 is 1.6Ghz Jan 12 12:14:33 it has 1MB L2 cache Jan 12 12:14:35 we2by web_know1 Jan 12 12:14:37 I was wrong Jan 12 12:14:42 we2by, "CPU Supported: Dual/Single 940-pin SOCKET SUPPORTS ONE or TwO AMD OPTERON DP/ATHLON 64FX" Jan 12 12:14:43 --> moises (~moises@200.215.9.189) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 12:15:04 --> OutpourDCC (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 12:15:04 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 12:15:09 smps, so? Jan 12 12:15:23 we2by, is that 242 opetron ? Jan 12 12:15:27 yep Jan 12 12:15:30 ok Jan 12 12:15:43 I configured it with 2 opteron cpu Jan 12 12:16:11 http://pastebin.com/227975 Jan 12 12:16:54 what is best for vcards? agp or pci? Jan 12 12:19:58 pci-x > agp > pci Jan 12 12:21:22 so if you're asking that q, chances are you want agp Jan 12 12:21:35 yep Jan 12 12:21:58 fred87, did u read my q? Jan 12 12:22:09 which one of the two boxes would u choose? Jan 12 12:22:32 <-- moises has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 12:25:38 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 12:26:32 <-- Straterra has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 12:26:58 hey - anyone here a Mac user? 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Jan 12 12:38:36 WD Jan 12 12:38:38 By far Jan 12 12:38:45 segate Jan 12 12:38:52 *seagate :) Jan 12 12:38:54 seagate Jan 12 12:38:54 LOL Jan 12 12:38:59 hitachi, ibm, seagate Jan 12 12:39:01 fred87: ah i had bad experiance with seagate Jan 12 12:39:03 personally I would go WB Jan 12 12:39:07 and it depends on what you are buying the harddrive for Jan 12 12:39:07 lo Dominian :) Jan 12 12:39:11 I prefer Maxtor over WD Jan 12 12:39:13 lo radiohead Jan 12 12:39:18 but again everyone seems to have had issues with different brands Jan 12 12:39:33 Caveman: yep Jan 12 12:39:40 hitachi makes damn good harddrives Jan 12 12:39:48 I have a samsung which I have found amazing.. Jan 12 12:39:51 who'da thunk... a tv manufacturer making a good harddrive Jan 12 12:39:57 Dominian: yesterday i installed 120gb hiotachi is really good Jan 12 12:40:08 radiohead: yeah they are really good drives Jan 12 12:40:35 Dominian: belive me i installed on asus p4c800-e-deluxe and work great, Jan 12 12:40:45 i test maxtor120gb same and was slower Jan 12 12:40:53 heh Jan 12 12:41:10 hitachi = ibm Jan 12 12:41:11 The only reason I went WD.. is I bought it from Sam's Club and it was a good price for a 160gb at the time. Jan 12 12:41:13 no difference Jan 12 12:41:18 although it died two days later and I had to exchange it. Jan 12 12:41:25 lol Jan 12 12:41:27 smps: umm there is a difference.. Jan 12 12:41:40 Dominian, only problem I have is that they often sit on the shelf for a long time Jan 12 12:41:43 IBM runs two major brands of harddrives.. toshisba and hitachi Jan 12 12:41:54 --> HeatHawk (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 12:41:56 Straterra: eh.. marks the price down for me late ron down the road Jan 12 12:42:09 When I bought mine, the warranty was already up. I had to mail them my receipt for them to believe me Jan 12 12:42:18 and damn i hate when i don`t have money :)> i found a asus a7n8x-e-deluxe with wifi edition rev2.0 or 2.2 do not remember for 86 euro Jan 12 12:42:26 motherboard * Jan 12 12:42:38 that reminds me.. Jan 12 12:42:48 <-- willwork4foo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 12:42:48 I need to start pricing out mobos and processors.. and memory Jan 12 12:42:59 * Dominian wants to get a P4 Jan 12 12:43:07 Dominian: i like amd :) Jan 12 12:43:19 eh.. Jan 12 12:43:27 I understand the whole processor model behind Pentiums. Jan 12 12:43:33 hello all, how using proxy in aMule or xMule eDonkey P2P client? or ,please, say me other Donkey client for this Jan 12 12:43:38 with AMD I'm not sure what the proc speed is or nothin' Jan 12 12:44:01 You take the name (3200+) and that is the speed of an Intel 3.2Ghz Jan 12 12:44:03 but this days i have without money :(, all my money going for terpay for my daughter so no chance to buy that mobo:* Jan 12 12:44:09 Straterra: ah Jan 12 12:44:16 2800+ == Intel 2.8Ghz Jan 12 12:44:29 See, what I've been hearing is that yeah.. while AMD is cheaper, you also have to get a lot of extra crap to keep them from overheating Jan 12 12:44:59 Dominian: i have an amd 1700+ work great and really fast man , just u need a good cooler Jan 12 12:45:15 yeah see.. I don't want to have to buy all that extra stuff Jan 12 12:45:30 Dominian: u can buy boxed Jan 12 12:45:34 Then again if I upgrade my mobo.. I may have no choice but upgrade my powersupply and my muffin fans anyway Jan 12 12:45:38 can someone tell me what package ijs-config is from? Jan 12 12:46:06 espgs-7.07.1-i486-2 Jan 12 12:46:10 fred87: espgs-7.07.1-i486-2 Jan 12 12:46:45 ty Jan 12 12:48:02 --> ataxic (~ataxic@a84-230-67-1.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 12:48:48 <-- Drago5 (drago5@CBL212-235-21-172.bb.netvision.net.il) has left ##slackware ("Client exiting") Jan 12 12:52:14 --> Squall`` (~squall@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 12:52:39 --> gTool-Kit (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 12:52:52 <-- HeatHawk has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 12:54:06 <-- riken has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 12:55:36 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 13:00:35 <-- gTool-Kit has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 13:01:24 --> vurte (~haluk@pD953AB8C.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:02:30 how would i go about grabbing a whole directory via ftp? Jan 12 13:02:44 --> Glamous (~kvirc@218.79.176.23) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:02:53 --> tvv (~tvv@intellect2-gw.ci.ukrpack.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:02:56 --> umair (~umair@202.147.174.97) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:03:00 --> Heth (heth@217.79.36.156) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:03:00 --> fsk1 (~chino@pcp09995929pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:03:02 skitz0: wget ? Jan 12 13:03:05 wget -r Jan 12 13:03:07 hi guys Jan 12 13:03:11 how do i go into single user mode during startup ? Jan 12 13:03:19 thnx Caveman Jan 12 13:03:24 hi Caveman Jan 12 13:03:40 wget -A mpg,mpeg,avi,asf -r -H -l 2 -nd -t 1 http://pRoN.you.like Jan 12 13:03:42 fsk1: what do you mean.. you mean at the boot prompt ? Jan 12 13:03:42 skitz0: np Jan 12 13:03:51 umair: um hi. Jan 12 13:04:24 Dominian: idk my teacher once during the start up jumped into single user mode to get around not knowing the root password Jan 12 13:04:44 Caveman, i have ubuntu linux installed on sda..i want to install slackware 10 on sdb ..the problem is that the system cant boot from cd or floppy...both are broken.. i have mounted the iso images in the system but cant figure out how to install slackware from there on sdb Jan 12 13:04:46 uh huh ok Jan 12 13:05:25 umair: hmm ok. thats a neat issue. Jan 12 13:05:30 so no one knows ? Jan 12 13:05:39 fred87: your amd64...what model is it...? Jan 12 13:05:47 you might have to boot up with some kind of linux and then use chroot to install slackware. Jan 12 13:06:18 Caveman, luckily the system is booted with ubuntu linux..i am chatting from that system :) ..so thats not a problem Jan 12 13:06:26 ok.. Jan 12 13:06:31 mount the slackware iso Jan 12 13:06:34 guys can i resize a resiers partition after being made ? Jan 12 13:06:37 then create a folder Jan 12 13:06:40 how change group for user? Jan 12 13:06:40 chroot to that folder Jan 12 13:06:46 and take if from there :) Jan 12 13:07:19 usermod Jan 12 13:07:33 fsk1: thanks Jan 12 13:08:05 dominian athlon64 3400_ Jan 12 13:08:10 hmmm Jan 12 13:08:10 Caveman, i have created a separate partition..formatted it as reiser4.. Jan 12 13:08:20 fred87: I'm debating.... always been a Pentium guy... Jan 12 13:08:21 <-- OutpourDCC has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 13:08:25 --> Outpour (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:08:53 fred87: found one for $325 US Jan 12 13:08:54 umair: OH ok.. then chroot to that Jan 12 13:08:55 easy :) Jan 12 13:09:26 ouch that's pricey Jan 12 13:09:33 fred87: I figured as much Jan 12 13:09:35 mine was around 3/5 of that Jan 12 13:09:37 Caveman, hang on..lemme try that..thnx Jan 12 13:09:39 fred87: I may neeed help finding stuff... Jan 12 13:09:56 fred87: I hate hardware.. I finally understand SDRAM .. then they change it hehe Jan 12 13:09:58 i find stuff from uk retailers... Jan 12 13:10:06 fred87: you from the UK? Jan 12 13:10:30 but no experience with US Jan 12 13:10:30 yah Jan 12 13:11:01 ahh that's why Jan 12 13:11:11 Caveman, chroot: /bin/bash: No such file or directory Jan 12 13:11:19 I found a nice P4/Mobo combo, but the website it was on is missing lol Jan 12 13:11:38 I did, however, find that the mobo I was looking at, a Biostar mobo, is actually one of the better makers. Jan 12 13:12:03 umair: you need to set the shell. Jan 12 13:12:18 Caveman, how to do that Jan 12 13:12:38 Caveman, copy /bin/bash and dependencies to /slack Jan 12 13:12:40 huh Jan 12 13:12:48 I think I just found the same mobo/processor combo at a diff store Jan 12 13:12:56 dominian: my recommendation: asus k8n-e deluxe Jan 12 13:13:08 --- Heth is now known as heth Jan 12 13:13:17 fred87: I'll keep that in mind, but right now.. I think I might've found a nice P4 processor/mobo combo for 228bucks Jan 12 13:13:25 umair: try a command like this Jan 12 13:13:32 http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/ "Do not eat iPod shuffle." Jan 12 13:13:34 chroot /mnt/mounteddisk /bin/bash Jan 12 13:13:45 ah.. Jan 12 13:13:50 no wonder it's cheap Jan 12 13:13:52 the mobo has limited features Jan 12 13:14:02 Caveman, lemme Jan 12 13:14:08 and 43-bit processor Jan 12 13:14:11 *32 Jan 12 13:14:11 morning slackers Jan 12 13:14:41 mornin Jan 12 13:15:23 fred87: lookin' up that mobo now Jan 12 13:16:08 fred87: lol damn.. that thing is loaded Jan 12 13:16:16 yah :P Jan 12 13:16:28 you may want to check the recommended motherboards from the cpu manufacturers website Jan 12 13:16:36 --> crackerjack (~poohie@ip5452b530.speed.planet.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:16:50 to make a match Jan 12 13:17:29 Caveman, doesnt work...i tried it..the same error Jan 12 13:17:39 hmm Jan 12 13:17:46 I dont have slackware installed Jan 12 13:17:49 so I cant really answer Jan 12 13:18:04 umair: what's the prob? Jan 12 13:18:05 Caveman, i should be chrooting to the the hard disk and not the mounted cd rom ..right? Jan 12 13:18:34 umair: try getting the bash and required bits of the slackware disk untar them into the mounted disk and try again. Jan 12 13:18:40 phiend, i have ubuntu linux installed on sda..i want to install slackware 10 on sdb ..the problem is that the system cant boot from cd or floppy...both are broken.. i have mounted the iso images in the system but cant figure out how to install slackware from there on sdb Jan 12 13:18:49 Caveman, righto Jan 12 13:19:08 dominian: socket754 though so it limits you to athlon64 Jan 12 13:20:16 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Ottawa-ppp324806.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:22:11 --- LM is now known as rlm Jan 12 13:22:18 Dominian, buy some Epox mobo and athlon64 Jan 12 13:22:29 Caveman, trying to find a statically linked shell... Jan 12 13:22:37 umair: no no.. Jan 12 13:22:50 you dont need to Jan 12 13:22:54 just by hand install all the basic slackware packages Jan 12 13:23:01 Caveman, how? Jan 12 13:23:12 umair: um, just get then off the cd Jan 12 13:23:13 or off the net. Jan 12 13:23:15 Caveman, you mean untar and configure them Jan 12 13:23:21 the just untar them Jan 12 13:23:32 the whole dir structure everything. Jan 12 13:23:39 execpt for the package data files Jan 12 13:23:39 Caveman, dont i need to create a FS hierarchy first on the partition? Jan 12 13:23:54 eh ? Jan 12 13:25:02 fred87: amd64 wouldn't bothere me.. although I'd have to download your distro hehe Jan 12 13:26:15 <-- fsk1 (~chino@pcp09995929pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) has left ##slackware Jan 12 13:27:23 --> spenser (~spenser@user-0c8hmse.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:28:06 Caveman, the partition is newly formatted..no dirs exist on it Jan 12 13:28:35 dominian: with a bit of luck, isos by end of next week Jan 12 13:28:48 afk Jan 12 13:28:57 --> fsk1 (~chino@pcp09995929pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:29:08 umair: fdisk it and set up partitions Jan 12 13:29:11 can i resize my resiers partition? Jan 12 13:29:28 wobbles, i have done that...partition is mounted as /slack Jan 12 13:29:49 --> idaho45 (~john@201.243.31.212) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:30:11 wobbles, slack 10 disc 1 mounted as /mnt...the sytem is running on ubuntu linux...need to install slack 10 on /slack from /mnt without using any boot disk Jan 12 13:30:23 Caveman is loosing his patience with me..i guesss..sorry Jan 12 13:30:59 --> bei_ (~brian@68-67-23-23.losaca.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:33:26 <-- rlm has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 13:33:30 umair: no sorry.. I was editing my apache config :) Jan 12 13:33:31 <-- Squall`` has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 13:33:41 um basically if you have partitions setup etc.. AS you need to. Jan 12 13:34:02 then you just unzip the packages until you have enough for bash to work and pkgtool Jan 12 13:34:10 then you chroot to it and install everything else.. Jan 12 13:34:18 --> sdogi_ (~java@84-50-21-253-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:34:26 the last you install lilo to mbr with correct settings and you should be all good. Jan 12 13:34:41 Caveman, thnx ..this is what i am trying to do..but i am failing Jan 12 13:34:41 <-- bei has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 13:34:49 got a problem. o have a 100 gb partiotion on the system and its full of small files , crap. when it reaches about 40% of usage it will be checked and says that the partition contains error each time i boot. any solution ? Jan 12 13:34:52 --> epic (~epic@220.80-202-211.nextgentel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:35:08 umair: where are you failing ? Jan 12 13:35:35 i unzipped the bashxx.tgz and then ran the doinst.sh script Jan 12 13:35:41 its throwing some errors Jan 12 13:35:45 let me figure that out..\ Jan 12 13:35:48 wait Jan 12 13:35:50 wait wait Jan 12 13:35:55 where did you get the bash.tgz file at? Jan 12 13:36:05 --> PiterPunk (~punk@200-206-132-181.dsl.telesp.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:36:07 Dominian, from the slack cd Jan 12 13:36:12 umair: You don't unzip it Jan 12 13:36:16 --> chairuou (~chairuou_@203.210.206.57) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:36:20 Dominian, then? Jan 12 13:36:24 umair: you do: installpkg .tgz Jan 12 13:36:28 or upgradepkg Jan 12 13:36:31 if it's an upgrade Jan 12 13:36:48 Dominian, i am sitting in ubuntu linux and its debian based..so no installpkg or pkgtool Jan 12 13:36:52 don't forget to make time for a nice hot cup of strong coffee Jan 12 13:37:05 Dominian, trying to install slack from ubuntu linux Jan 12 13:37:06 --> Andrew- (admin@pcp04704869pcs.spedwy01.in.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:37:40 umair: heh.. well without using installpkg you won't get very far. the doinst.sh file usually only has symlinks in it that need created Jan 12 13:37:49 brb.. smoke time Jan 12 13:38:09 :O Jan 12 13:38:45 Dominian, very right Jan 12 13:38:58 but the problem is critical Jan 12 13:39:21 Caveman, how about LFS and then to slackware? Jan 12 13:40:02 is there a way i can change the filesystem type from ext2 to ext3 WITHOUT losing the data ? Jan 12 13:40:10 Weenie schmeenie, Zim needs no meat!!! Jan 12 13:40:12 --> rlm (~rlm@n216.isratek.edunet.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:40:39 sunbx, ext3 is ext2 + a journal Jan 12 13:40:42 sunbx: tune2fs -j /dev/lalalala (change lalalala by the correct partition) Jan 12 13:40:47 its possible AFAIK Jan 12 13:41:06 --> tintin (1000@219.64.140.25) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:41:12 <-- ksandre has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 13:41:18 PiterPunk is that tunefs stuff safe ? Jan 12 13:41:32 if i lose the data from /dev/hda4 im gonna be dead Jan 12 13:41:33 -j or -J turns ext2 in ext3. One of them makes the journal file visible and other don't (but you need to see the manpage) Jan 12 13:41:37 umair: basically thats what we are doing. Jan 12 13:41:44 sunbx: Yes... is safe Jan 12 13:41:48 just setting up the file structure etc by hand Jan 12 13:41:55 tell we get enough to firstly chroot Jan 12 13:42:00 then to install packages etc. Jan 12 13:42:06 just like you do iwth lfs and gentoo Jan 12 13:42:07 installs Jan 12 13:42:15 --> GuBA (~obiwan@208.29.128.59) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:42:19 PiterPunk wich is the recomended file format for ALOT of small files ? Jan 12 13:42:19 --> qmasterrr (1000@pD955AADB.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:43:33 <-- rlm has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 13:43:40 <-- GuBA (~obiwan@208.29.128.59) has left ##slackware ("http://galeria.gsol.ws") Jan 12 13:44:31 tune2fs -j /dev/hda4 will make the partition in ext3 , the i have to change the /etc/fstab in ext3 and reboot ? Jan 12 13:44:43 Caveman, right..ok if you have enuff patience/time/stamina can we start from scratch Jan 12 13:45:02 i am behing a nat machine otherwise i would have given you ssh access to this machine Jan 12 13:45:06 sunbx, correct Jan 12 13:46:03 root@sunbx:~> tune2fs -j /dev/hda4 Jan 12 13:46:04 tune2fs 1.35 (28-Feb-2004) Jan 12 13:46:04 Creating journal inode: done Jan 12 13:46:09 so now it would be ext3 ? Jan 12 13:46:14 os that simple ? Jan 12 13:46:16 is* Jan 12 13:46:17 yup Jan 12 13:46:27 all it does is add a journal Jan 12 13:46:36 <-- sdogi has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 13:46:39 :)) Jan 12 13:46:47 umair: well I am going to bed soon, its 23:45 here now !! Jan 12 13:46:48 ok rebooting. Jan 12 13:47:01 Caveman, ew...its 5:43 pm here Jan 12 13:47:07 however I might be to sort you out tomorrow for sure. Jan 12 13:47:07 hated that every time check like 10 mins Jan 12 13:47:10 7:46AM here Jan 12 13:47:11 :-D Jan 12 13:47:14 umair: hehe gota live time zones Jan 12 13:47:21 its 12/01/2005 here :P Jan 12 13:47:22 and 14.46 here Jan 12 13:47:23 Caveman, very right Jan 12 13:47:25 :D Jan 12 13:47:27 Caveman: sydney? Jan 12 13:47:36 * umair lives in Pakistan Jan 12 13:47:39 XGizzmo: correct Jan 12 13:48:17 ok working/ booted safely Jan 12 13:48:18 :) Jan 12 13:48:18 --> geko (~oito@82.155.101.24) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:48:31 piterpunk: expected isos friday next week :) Jan 12 13:48:44 ok Caveman, just tell me quickly what needs to be done..i shall try that.. Jan 12 13:49:15 ok.. Jan 12 13:49:26 get all the CORE packages for slackware Jan 12 13:49:40 Caveman, CORE packages? Jan 12 13:49:57 unzip each of those into the mounted harddisk with the directory stucture in the package still in place. Jan 12 13:50:04 how can i make named NOT to create a /named.run file each time i start it ? Jan 12 13:50:04 :( Jan 12 13:50:09 umair: yeah, I think its core.. been awhile since I used slackware. Jan 12 13:50:15 "CORE" packages? um wtf.. Jan 12 13:50:17 ok carry on Jan 12 13:50:18 listening Jan 12 13:50:19 ask someone else about that. Jan 12 13:50:19 i think you mean "a/" Jan 12 13:50:25 fred87: thats it ! Jan 12 13:50:26 better idea: Jan 12 13:50:31 export ROOT=/mnt/wherever Jan 12 13:50:31 umair: a/ thats what you want. Jan 12 13:50:33 installpkg a/*.tgz Jan 12 13:50:48 umair: ask fred87 he seems on the right track :) Jan 12 13:51:06 alright Jan 12 13:51:08 hi fred87 Jan 12 13:51:15 thnx a lot Caveman Jan 12 13:51:27 hi :P Jan 12 13:51:38 fred87, i hope you understand my problem Jan 12 13:51:46 warning: i don't technically have slackware installed :) a weird hybrid of slackware-current for x86_64 :P Jan 12 13:51:54 umair, nope :) Jan 12 13:52:00 just saw what caveman was saying and guessed :P Jan 12 13:52:22 umair: just do what fred87 said Jan 12 13:52:32 :D Jan 12 13:52:35 i don't hear that often enough :P Jan 12 13:52:41 Jan 12 13:52:42 [23:49:46] export ROOT=/mnt/wherever Jan 12 13:52:43 [23:49:48] installpkg a/*.tgz Jan 12 13:52:54 fred87, here goes: ubuntu linux installed on sda, want to install slack 10 on sdb, cd1 mounted as /mnt , sdb mounted as /slack ... working internet connection..no way to boot the system as cd/floppy doesnt work Jan 12 13:53:02 umair: then chroot /mnt/whereever /bin/bash shoudl work Jan 12 13:53:05 then you should be good. Jan 12 13:53:20 Caveman, got that and with fred87's support ..i should be done Jan 12 13:53:29 umair: cd /tmp; tar zxfv /mnt/slackware/a/pkgtools*.tgz Jan 12 13:53:44 cp the "installpkg" "explodepkg" "upgradepkg" "removepkg" to somewhere in your path Jan 12 13:54:00 or export PATH=/tmp/sbin or wherever those files are Jan 12 13:54:05 mkdir /tmp/slack ; export PATH=$PATH:/tmp/slack Jan 12 13:54:05 export ROOT=/slack; Jan 12 13:54:17 does anyone know what is /dev/rtc used for? Jan 12 13:54:22 as long as those utils are in your path :P Jan 12 13:54:41 how can i allow a specific user to mount the cd-rom ? Jan 12 13:54:47 then export ROOT=/slack; cd /mnt/slackware/a; installpkg *.tgz Jan 12 13:54:57 fred87..wait a sec Jan 12 13:54:58 add them to group "cdrom" Jan 12 13:54:58 :) Jan 12 13:55:04 oh actually no... Jan 12 13:55:06 :| Jan 12 13:55:27 --> Squall`` (~squall@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:55:30 fred87, where actually is installpkg and others Jan 12 13:56:02 in /cdrom/slackware/a/pkgtools*.tgz Jan 12 13:56:14 fred87 i must add him to gropu cdrom but i have grsec and if i will chage his group it will be able to run executable scripts and that is not good Jan 12 13:56:43 sudo Jan 12 13:56:49 @ sunbx Jan 12 13:57:09 make it his secondary group then Jan 12 13:57:23 umair: btw your scsi/sata devices may magically change into ide devices for slack's default kernel Jan 12 13:57:42 i may sound stupid but how do i make him secondary group ? Jan 12 13:57:42 :) Jan 12 13:57:44 fred87, sounds scary Jan 12 13:57:53 eg if i have new libata support (2.6 kernel) my sata HD is /dev/sda, if i use old sata support, /dev/hde Jan 12 13:58:05 umair: just means you may need to change your fstab a little Jan 12 13:58:21 fred87, np Jan 12 13:58:22 <-- spenser has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 13:58:31 fred87, lemme do this..i will get back to oyu Jan 12 13:59:11 gor a problem Jan 12 13:59:12 cdrom@sunbx:~> mount /mnt/cdrom/ Jan 12 13:59:12 mount: only root can mount /dev/cdrom on /mnt/cdrom Jan 12 13:59:12 cdrom@sunbx:~> id Jan 12 13:59:12 uid=1028(cdrom) gid=19(cdrom) groups=19(cdrom) Jan 12 13:59:12 cdrom@sunbx:~> Jan 12 13:59:13 <-- nixor has kicked sunbx from ##slackware (flood) Jan 12 13:59:14 --> sunbx (~awx@82.76.44.123) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 13:59:22 where can i paste the output / Jan 12 13:59:23 ? Jan 12 13:59:48 sunbx: try using sudo instead Jan 12 14:00:06 fred87, just want to confirm that $ROOT will be used by installpkg to install packages right? Jan 12 14:00:07 yeah but i don't want that user to have the root password Jan 12 14:00:14 umair, yah Jan 12 14:00:16 <-- crackerjack has quit ("[BX] Time to make the donuts") Jan 12 14:00:18 ....need to save for a mini mac Jan 12 14:00:22 sunbx, they don't need the root password with sudo Jan 12 14:00:24 o.O Jan 12 14:00:29 _ Jan 12 14:00:43 sunbx, if sudo is configured correctly, they can type "sudo mount /mnt/cdrom", it will ask for *their user password* Jan 12 14:00:56 you can turn off that password prompt with NOPASSWD Jan 12 14:01:01 but if you're using grsec i doubt you want to Jan 12 14:01:14 ok its installing Jan 12 14:01:33 now pray :) Jan 12 14:01:48 --> ptlo (~senko@cmung3204.cmu.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 14:01:49 * umair is praying Jan 12 14:02:14 fred87, this is a test box...if all goes well then i shall replicated this procedure on my proxy...the actual machine Jan 12 14:02:17 :) Jan 12 14:02:28 --- web_know1 is now known as web_knows Jan 12 14:02:31 and how do i configure sudo that way ? Jan 12 14:02:40 man sudo :) Jan 12 14:02:43 Q: What is green and lives in the ocean? Jan 12 14:02:44 A: Moby Pickle. Jan 12 14:02:44 * AllenOne is praying for ogg support on ipod or ishuffle one day Jan 12 14:02:44 ah thx Jan 12 14:02:45 :) Jan 12 14:02:46 visudo is the app you're looking for Jan 12 14:03:15 allenone, read the page for the ipodshuffle. footnote #2: "Do not eat iPod shuffle" Jan 12 14:03:26 ooh gimp starts in 0.6 seconds Jan 12 14:03:27 :) Jan 12 14:04:07 fred87, install is done Jan 12 14:04:12 Fred87, OMG that is freaking hillarious Jan 12 14:04:21 umair: boot it and pray :) Jan 12 14:04:29 I think that made my day Jan 12 14:04:34 ^_^ Jan 12 14:05:05 referencing: the picture of an ipod shuffle next to a packet of chewing gum for size comparisson Jan 12 14:05:34 <-- fsk1 (~chino@pcp09995929pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net) has left ##slackware Jan 12 14:06:03 I didn't pick up on the footnote at first....lol, oh man Jan 12 14:06:33 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 14:06:47 fred87, thats all..you mean the kernel etc every thing is installed including the bootloader? Jan 12 14:06:48 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Sudbury-ppp330158.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 14:06:57 not the bootloader Jan 12 14:07:05 castanedawiz@sunbx:~> sudo mount /mnt/cdrom/ Jan 12 14:07:05 Sorry, user castanedawiz is not allowed to execute '/bin/mount /mnt/cdrom/' as root on central.sunbx.net. Jan 12 14:07:05 castanedawiz@sunbx:~> Jan 12 14:07:10 i'm assuming you wanted to keep the ubuntu bootloader ? Jan 12 14:07:18 root@sunbx:~> cat /etc/sudoers | grep casta Jan 12 14:07:18 castanedawiz central.sunbx.net=/sbin/mount /cdrom,/sbin/umount Jan 12 14:07:18 root@sunbx:~> Jan 12 14:07:30 something is fishing around here Jan 12 14:07:50 um Jan 12 14:07:56 i don't think you just want /sbin/umount Jan 12 14:07:59 "sudo /sbin/umount / Jan 12 14:08:09 ^^^ variations on that == nasty Jan 12 14:08:37 <-- tintin has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 12 14:11:23 i don't get it Jan 12 14:12:49 you want "/sbin/umount /mnt/cdrom" not "/sbin/umount" Jan 12 14:12:53 otherwise they can umount anything Jan 12 14:14:10 i can't think about umounting yet .. the mounting doesn't work Jan 12 14:14:13 * sunbx smiles Jan 12 14:15:24 <-- heth has quit () Jan 12 14:16:09 fred87, need an initrd.img file for vmlinuz-ide-2.4.26 Jan 12 14:16:15 how to create that Jan 12 14:16:50 <-- Glamous has quit ("Using KVIrc 3.0.1 'System Virtue'") Jan 12 14:18:07 --> Kurt (kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 14:18:40 why do you need initrd? Jan 12 14:18:50 --> tintin` (1000@219.64.133.240) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 14:20:51 fred87, to boot the slackware kernel as the root fs is reiserfs Jan 12 14:21:56 <-- wobbles (~huntsman@204.cust1.sa.dsl.ozemail.com.au) has left ##slackware ("Off to find a life....") Jan 12 14:22:55 not neeed. Jan 12 14:23:03 only needed with packaged 2.6 kernels for slack Jan 12 14:23:09 fred87, ok me going for a reboot Jan 12 14:24:05 <-- Kurt has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 14:24:23 <-- umair has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 14:24:43 <-- geko has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 14:25:10 --> Kurt (~kmw@evvlinlwt-nas-03-s408.cinergycom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 14:26:07 --> R3nn (~R3nn@R3nn.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 14:26:18 <-- UZY has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 14:28:22 --> UZY (~jack@200-103-150-114.ctame7041.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 14:30:40 --> ucho (~ucho@sam.multicon.pl) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 14:30:57 is away, sleeping Jan 12 14:32:44 --> umair (~umair@202.147.174.97) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 14:32:48 fred87, me back Jan 12 14:33:48 <-- Squall`` has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 14:35:49 fred87, it says couldnot initialize agetty Jan 12 14:39:50 <-- Kurt has quit ("People who think porn degrades women obviously haven't heard of feminism") Jan 12 14:42:26 --- hard__ware is now known as HW_Asleep Jan 12 14:42:31 fred87, u there Jan 12 14:42:34 Caveman, u there? Jan 12 14:44:51 <-- pjm_uk has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 14:46:07 --> StevenR (~foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 14:47:07 --> pjm_uk (~pjm_uk@cpc1-pool3-3-0-cust116.sot3.cable.ntl.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 14:47:39 <-- rh0` has quit ("Abandonando") Jan 12 14:48:00 --> yanger (terminal@yanger.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 14:48:26 <-- ptlo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 14:48:45 <-- chairuou has quit ("Anh la^'y te^n em la`m password, cu+' login ro^`i la.i logout") Jan 12 14:49:19 fred87: was it you that used to use 1and1.com domain hosting? Jan 12 14:50:55 is it safe to do this: ./configure --prefix=/usr --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man--infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc--localstatedir=/var/lib --disable-dependency-tracking --with-jpeg --with-tiff --with-zlib --with-python ... or is that too much? Jan 12 14:52:41 <-- elius has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 14:52:48 eh never too much Jan 12 14:53:01 but I bet if you look at ./configure --help you'll see that some of those options are probably default Jan 12 14:53:03 can i make it a default whenever i ./configure ? Jan 12 14:53:09 hehe Jan 12 14:53:11 oh ok Jan 12 14:53:22 I am drinking Coca Cola, the beverage for the young and healthy youth of 2005! HAHAHAHAA Jan 12 14:53:28 Fear me, FEAR ME!! Jan 12 14:53:30 usually the --prefix=/usr will take care of most of your mandir infodir datatdir stuff for you Jan 12 14:53:37 oops(); wrong window.. Jan 12 14:53:45 <-- umair has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 14:54:00 the only time I've added another switch was for sysconfdir for /etc Jan 12 14:57:02 --> elius (~elius@CBL217-132-144-88.bb.netvision.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 14:57:16 --> apeitheo (apeitheo@openwire.metawire.org) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 14:57:22 --> Squall`` (~squall@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 14:58:35 <-- apeitheo has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 14:59:52 --> apeitheo (apeitheo@openwire.metawire.org) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 15:18:25 --- Disconnected (Connection timed out). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 12 15:18:25 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 12 18:25:27 2005 Jan 12 18:25:27 --> You are now talking on ##slackware Jan 12 18:25:27 --- Topic for ##slackware is Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support Channel - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | Anyone hearing from Sandman1, please /msg unixfool | Jan 12 18:25:27 --- Topic for ##slackware set by W|GG-Laptop at Tue Jan 11 03:42:41 2005 Jan 12 18:25:28 --- ##slackware :[freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup Jan 12 18:26:54 --> elbarto (~el@p5082F3A0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 18:27:03 mow Jan 12 18:27:22 <-- elbarto (~el@p5082F3A0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has left ##slackware Jan 12 18:27:36 <-- ptlo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 18:28:03 phrag: a meadow Jan 12 18:28:31 --> dwolf (~unknown@dwolf.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 18:29:12 StevenR: that's what i use it for also Jan 12 18:29:51 StevenR: DamnSmallLinux has a version that uses qemu to run on Windows Jan 12 18:30:03 --> vmhobbes (vmhobbes@203.76.241.25) has joined ##Slackware Jan 12 18:30:06 StevenR: =) Jan 12 18:30:10 StevenR: hows it going Jan 12 18:30:23 <_erik> http://www.slackwaregallery.com/albums/userpics/10002/dscn0272.jpg Jan 12 18:30:34 phrag: good. one lecture per day isn't that taxing really.......dissertation starts next week though 3k words Jan 12 18:30:37 <-- Squall`` has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 12 18:30:46 nice decks erik Jan 12 18:30:51 new mixer ? Jan 12 18:31:39 w00t, green acres is on... Jan 12 18:31:48 phrag: and i told my project supervisor that i start now, not in may like he thought Jan 12 18:32:21 phrag: so he has to contact ppl and hopefully they'll lend me a PMG Jan 12 18:32:31 PMG ? Jan 12 18:32:40 permanent magnet generator Jan 12 18:32:54 1.5kw one Jan 12 18:32:54 never heard of =P Jan 12 18:33:07 heh Jan 12 18:33:25 phrag: it's like an induction machine, but without the induction rotor, has magnets instead Jan 12 18:33:26 thats to get rid of his goat porn on floppies Jan 12 18:33:26 so how does that differ from an electro-magnet ? Jan 12 18:33:38 heh Jan 12 18:33:48 StevenR: ah, i see... like opposite of DC motor ? Jan 12 18:33:53 --> madsj (~nospam@cpe.atm2-0-1041101.0x50c513e6.virnxx12.customer.tele.dk) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 18:34:08 phrag: no, no slip rings afaik. it produces ac. Jan 12 18:34:18 <-- drt (~Joe@12-222-249-211.client.insightBB.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 18:34:31 get you Jan 12 18:34:41 phrag: magnets on rotor, not stator like dc motor Jan 12 18:34:44 sorry, i meant AC motor =) Jan 12 18:34:47 afaik. not seen it yet Jan 12 18:34:50 i see Jan 12 18:35:08 think we made a mini one ages ago Jan 12 18:35:23 --> flock (~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 18:35:23 <-- ximpul has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 18:35:36 phrag: this one goes in silent wind turbines Jan 12 18:35:51 cool Jan 12 18:35:59 means i have to learn spice though :( Jan 12 18:36:11 hi Jan 12 18:36:17 hi fred87 Jan 12 18:36:18 low fred87 Jan 12 18:36:37 "ha" Jan 12 18:36:42 hi im mirroring traffic from a T1 on a switch to a port with a machine that is running pcap looking for traffic on port 5190, but for some reason when i do tcpdump -i br0 5190 and specify the interface it doesnt see the traffic, but if i do tcpdump tcp 5190 it sees it (i dont get it because without -i it just defaults to br0), is this a bridging issue? or is it pcap? thanks Jan 12 18:37:07 <-- Mellen has quit ("Konversation terminated!") Jan 12 18:37:40 how can i encrypt a directory ? Jan 12 18:37:50 like /tmp/data Jan 12 18:38:17 sunbx: make a tarball and encrypt with gpg or similar Jan 12 18:38:17 pgp i i could see does only file encryption. does it have support for whole dir encryption ? Jan 12 18:38:24 aha Jan 12 18:38:26 tarball Jan 12 18:38:30 --> sami_ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 18:38:31 sunbx: nope. Just individual files Jan 12 18:39:10 i can make encryped archives, but i've always just done that Jan 12 18:39:15 smoke_: The key to your problem is in how you're specifying what you want to see. Try "tcp port 5190" instead of just "5190" Jan 12 18:39:17 s/i/one Jan 12 18:39:28 good evening fellow yeti's Jan 12 18:40:13 err Jan 12 18:40:21 i did that i mean, sorry i did tcp and port 5190 Jan 12 18:40:29 can i have a example command line with gpg ? Jan 12 18:40:36 i don't have time to consult the manual Jan 12 18:40:37 ::( Jan 12 18:40:49 sunbx: unlucky Jan 12 18:40:52 drive boy dog boy dirty numb angel boy in the doorway boy she was a lipstick boy she was a beautiful boy and tears boy Jan 12 18:41:23 sunbx: neither do we :) Jan 12 18:41:25 sunbx: but you have time to wait around here, after you know what to look for, for an answer ? Jan 12 18:41:40 StevenR: spot on Jan 12 18:41:40 /window new hide Jan 12 18:41:45 --> DarkTide (~nerd@dialup-4.156.102.29.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 18:41:46 sunbx: hehe read the faq Jan 12 18:41:48 ? Jan 12 18:41:52 on the website Jan 12 18:42:05 it has the examples you want Jan 12 18:42:19 HOW DO I MAKE OTHER APPS IN A SESSION START?!?! NOT ONLY THE WINDOWMANAGER BUT OTHER APPS LIKE BBKEYS Jan 12 18:42:24 "i cannot be bothered to read this... can someone read it for me please and extract the information for me" Jan 12 18:42:26 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to phrag Jan 12 18:42:27 --- phrag sets mode +q ##slackware okmeufilho!*@* Jan 12 18:42:28 --- phrag removes channel operator status from phrag Jan 12 18:42:45 okmeufilho WHATAREYOUSAYING?? Jan 12 18:42:48 sunbx: you gets me Jan 12 18:42:51 <-- X[z]X has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 18:42:55 <-- ^slacker^ has quit ("leaving") Jan 12 18:43:03 heh Jan 12 18:43:09 okmeufilho: you start by not talking in all caps. Jan 12 18:43:16 oke put them before the wm in the session and background them Jan 12 18:43:20 or use an exec hook Jan 12 18:43:20 man I'm about to kill my provider Jan 12 18:43:24 all on goolge Jan 12 18:43:26 okmeufilho: again and you will be banned Jan 12 18:43:33 Dominian still no connection? heh Jan 12 18:43:42 got connection but it dies out... Jan 12 18:43:44 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to phrag Jan 12 18:43:47 the upload is saturated for some odd reason Jan 12 18:43:53 --- phrag sets mode -q ##slackware okmeufilho!*@* Jan 12 18:44:04 * Dominian will have a little "chat" with his ISP when he gets home Jan 12 18:44:05 okmeufilho: edit your ~/.xinitrc Jan 12 18:44:12 okmeufilho: go ahead... no caps please Jan 12 18:44:15 <-- sami__ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 18:45:03 underworld - born slippy (london electricity mix) Jan 12 18:45:12 it's like a dnb/jungle remix Jan 12 18:45:15 awesome Jan 12 18:45:59 <-- dwolf has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 18:46:40 <-- Lurkan has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 18:46:56 london town Jan 12 18:47:05 ZipKid sorry for being so late but what was the right perm number again for /tmp? Jan 12 18:47:13 crackjack: 1777 Jan 12 18:47:24 or +rwxt Jan 12 18:48:00 Hrumm, everytime the 3d card in this box is stressed the screen goes FUNKY and it reboots... Jan 12 18:48:13 anyone know an UNDERCLOCKING util for an ati card ;) Jan 12 18:48:46 crackjack, the torrent file? Jan 12 18:48:50 Kyle_S: howdy Jan 12 18:48:59 tewmten ahh I see the difference.. thnx Jan 12 18:49:01 hey foureyes779 how are ya? Jan 12 18:49:08 np Jan 12 18:49:20 stupid ati cards. Jan 12 18:49:31 nice cards Jan 12 18:49:33 Kyle_S: doing ok Jan 12 18:49:44 phrag, sorry Jan 12 18:49:46 --> sami__ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 18:49:50 fastest non proprietary driver 3d card out there Jan 12 18:49:51 Kyle_S: what ATi card you working on ? Jan 12 18:50:05 foureyes779: the origonal version of the radeon ddr. Jan 12 18:50:13 we2by Sorry can't access my drive at te moment. Check the PBS link now and than to see if it has been added.. ;) Jan 12 18:50:14 aah Jan 12 18:50:21 Kyle_S: use the open xorg driver Jan 12 18:50:23 foureyes779: so I guess it'd be called radeon 7200 64mb vivo. Or somefin. Jan 12 18:50:31 Kyle_S: i have the Radeon7000 (sux) Jan 12 18:51:03 Kyle_S: you get 3D graphics with it ? Jan 12 18:51:04 slpyhd: it does it under XFree and Windos. Any stress on the card at all and boomph, reboot. Jan 12 18:51:26 foureyes779: the 7200 was better. I think the 7000 was the sdr :) Jan 12 18:51:30 <_erik> laptop? Jan 12 18:51:56 foureyes779: yea 3d comes up fine. In low res modes you can play games or use 3d apps for a good 10-20 minutes, then reboot. Jan 12 18:52:46 Kyle_S: does your bios have a pci latency timer setting? Jan 12 18:53:17 pingtimeout: I'm pretty sure it does. But that woudln't explain why it only happens when the card is stressed. Jan 12 18:53:29 The fan IS working on the card to. I checked ;) Jan 12 18:53:55 tewmten, I dont use startx Jan 12 18:54:01 tewmten, so I wont use .xinitrc Jan 12 18:54:06 Kyle_S: Radeon RV1000 QY (Radeon 7000 /VE ) Jan 12 18:54:12 <_erik> but is air getting to the fan Jan 12 18:54:35 maybe it needs to be cooled Jan 12 18:54:35 foureyes779: Ohh god :P its the VE. That was possibly the worst graphics card ati ever made. Its worse than a matrox mistake. Jan 12 18:54:38 or it's just broken Jan 12 18:54:48 i would like to be able to play RTCW/ET with it in linux Jan 12 18:54:56 try another card of the same build Jan 12 18:54:56 _erik: well there are two free pci slots to the fanside of the card, and right now the case is off. Jan 12 18:55:00 okmeufilho: how do you start X then? Jan 12 18:55:18 <_erik> oh hm.. well there goes that idea Jan 12 18:55:30 tewmten, with GDM Jan 12 18:55:33 you'd think it would be easier to find people willing to help build another internet Jan 12 18:55:35 ;) Jan 12 18:55:39 okmeufilho: edit ~/.xsession then Jan 12 18:55:52 Kyle_S: so 3D games are pretty much out with this card in Linux Jan 12 18:55:55 tewmten, I said I use GDM Jan 12 18:55:59 not startx Jan 12 18:56:00 foureyes779: That card has ram that is half the bandwith as the standard SDR card, but runs at DDR so you kindof get the same bandwith, and it doesn't have the most of the geometry engine.... its shit. Jan 12 18:56:17 okmeufilho: I know Jan 12 18:56:31 tewmten, so that file isnt used Jan 12 18:56:40 okmeufilho: gdm uses ~/.xsession Jan 12 18:56:45 <-- crackjack has quit ("[BX] Back wit anutha one of doz BitchX-rockin' beats!") Jan 12 18:56:45 no Jan 12 18:56:54 it sure does Jan 12 18:57:05 GDM uses /usr/share/xsessions Jan 12 18:57:08 why else does gdm start fluxbox for me? Jan 12 18:57:17 ah well, still sving my nickels and dimes for a decent one Jan 12 18:57:45 it just sucks to have to fire up Windows to play RTCW or ET Jan 12 18:57:47 foureyes779: whats sad is the rage128 almost runs as fast, and looks better than the radeonVE ;) Go buy yourself a nice nvidia card. Jan 12 18:57:55 --> posix__ (~marcelo@gimli.flexdigital.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 18:58:00 okmeufilho: ok, well I know how you can set it too use ~/.xsession, it's much easier if you wanna change stuff Jan 12 18:58:09 but I won't help you b/c you just sound so fucking rude Jan 12 18:58:10 <-- posix__ (~marcelo@gimli.flexdigital.com.br) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 18:59:17 foureyes779: hehe Jan 12 18:59:22 I do not have .xsessions Jan 12 18:59:27 foureyes779: Why do you have to fire up Windows to play RTCW or ET? Jan 12 18:59:38 --> thr1ce (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 18:59:46 Dominian: because i have a crappy ATI Radeon card Jan 12 18:59:52 <-- sami_ has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 12 18:59:56 iohhhhh ok Jan 12 18:59:59 Nvidia all the way Jan 12 19:00:00 hehe Jan 12 19:00:02 yeah, so much for these new drivers they are putting out for xorg 6.8 ............ Jan 12 19:00:04 Dominian: because the ATI drivers in linux run (quite) a bit slower than the ati drivers in windos, and he has the worst ati card ever made. Jan 12 19:00:18 go figure... Jan 12 19:00:19 Kyle_S: nvidia all the way when it comes to linux hehe Jan 12 19:00:32 i game mostly in windows, and thus have an ATI Jan 12 19:00:36 * Kyle_S still likes the rage128 as far as pretty 2d and simple but solid 3d goes. Jan 12 19:00:45 <-- DarkTide has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 19:00:50 i have a 9700 pro, though Jan 12 19:01:06 ATI is supposed to be releasing good drivers...now? Jan 12 19:01:18 S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] Jan 12 19:01:26 hmm Jan 12 19:02:07 --> nikon (nikon@judecca.aculei.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:02:11 thats what is in my XP2200 Jan 12 19:02:27 thr1ce: ATI is releasing drivers. Good is a different story. Jan 12 19:02:33 --> Squall`` (~squall@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:02:53 Kyle_S, supposedly comparable to their windows drivers Jan 12 19:02:59 thr1ce: I used ati's drivers for the radeon 9600 pro when I had that, and they were OK, but they DID introduce instability issues. Jan 12 19:03:03 Kyle_S, they are supposed to be out before "mid-january" Jan 12 19:03:08 * foureyes779 looks on Ebay to see what ATi Radeon7000's are going for so he can sell HIS Jan 12 19:03:21 thr1ce: I'll belive that when I see benchmarks by a reputible site ;) Jan 12 19:03:41 foureyes779: go for an r200 Jan 12 19:03:46 Kyle_S, yep :( Jan 12 19:03:47 if you don't game much Jan 12 19:03:54 Kyle_S: tnx for the input, i will keep that in mind on my next VC purchase Jan 12 19:04:21 * foureyes779 doesnt know what an "R200" is Jan 12 19:04:36 foureyes779: NP. I've been needing to buy a new video card myself.. Ijust need a job first. Jan 12 19:04:51 Kyle_S, what do you have? Jan 12 19:04:56 foureyes779: an r200 is a series of radeons. I avoid them now since the linux support for them sucks ;) Jan 12 19:05:05 that's the 8500 series up to 9000 pro Jan 12 19:05:07 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:05:13 and 9200 pro possibly Jan 12 19:05:21 heh, xfce4 is pretty nice Jan 12 19:05:21 thr1ce: I had a radeon9600pro, but I sold it. Right now there is an old 7200 in this box. Jan 12 19:05:26 good enough for quake3 Jan 12 19:05:29 and hl2 Jan 12 19:05:46 Kyle_S: so just about ANY NVidia card would be better than this one ? Jan 12 19:05:59 slpyhd: except that its overheating or drawing too much current, and causing the machine to lockup in 3dmode. Jan 12 19:06:09 if you go proprietary driver, then pick nvidia Jan 12 19:06:18 but who would want that Jan 12 19:06:29 foureyes779: Any nvidia card would be better than that. Probably the origonal geforce would be better. Any geforce2, or geforce*mx w9uld be better Jan 12 19:07:04 slpyhd: the open drivers for ATI's cards stop at what, 9000? Jan 12 19:07:31 * foureyes779 stands in front of Walmart with sign "will remove virus' for food" Jan 12 19:09:38 Kyle_S: what about the onboard PorSavage ? Jan 12 19:09:42 Kyle_S: as I said before Jan 12 19:09:45 foureyes779: Ugh. Jan 12 19:09:49 9000 or 9200 Jan 12 19:09:51 see docs Jan 12 19:10:04 slpyhd: I assume you have one of these cards? Jan 12 19:10:06 but those cards are dirtcheap now Jan 12 19:10:16 --> crackjack (1000@ip5452b530.speed.planet.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:10:16 and the driver is weltested Jan 12 19:10:22 and very featurefull and stable Jan 12 19:10:46 doesnt do transparency in hardware though Jan 12 19:11:06 but that's non-functional anyway Jan 12 19:11:13 Kyle_S: bah.....i need a job too Jan 12 19:11:21 --> DarkTide (~nerd@dialup-4.156.100.5.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:11:25 <-- mmu_man has quit ("Vision[0.9.6-0203]: i've been blurred!") Jan 12 19:11:27 * Dominian prepares to argue with his ISP Jan 12 19:11:34 Kyle_S: if you happen to find a couple maybe you could send me one Jan 12 19:11:37 slpyhd: OK but do you have one of those cards? Jan 12 19:11:41 foureyes779: job? Jan 12 19:11:49 Kyle_S: sure Jan 12 19:12:03 foureyes779: OK if I find a spare I'll send it to you. Jan 12 19:12:14 mow my lawn Jan 12 19:12:17 There's a job for you Jan 12 19:12:20 :) Jan 12 19:12:20 heh Jan 12 19:12:30 Kyle_S: and you can wash my truck ;P Jan 12 19:12:31 Kyle_S: yes a 9000 128MB Jan 12 19:12:33 slpyhd: I'm just wondering if you've tested the both the ati and the free drivers for it, and how it preformed/how stable it was under both. Jan 12 19:12:40 TWO coats of wax.. not just one. Jan 12 19:12:53 the Ati inc. drivers suck cocks Jan 12 19:12:54 Dominian: if you will pay me full time+benefits, OK. Jan 12 19:13:01 but are a bit faster when they work Jan 12 19:13:05 Kyle_S: bah.. you work on commission Jan 12 19:13:09 Kyle_S: i was working on some flyers for "virus removal" and "computer tech" so i cuold put them up in various places Jan 12 19:13:27 <-- madsj (~nospam@cpe.atm2-0-1041101.0x50c513e6.virnxx12.customer.tele.dk) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 19:13:28 --> Zarco (~chatzilla@ip-81-11-144-224.dsl.scarlet.be) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:13:32 foureyes779: for the virus removal.. have a picture of a cartoon character picking its nose Jan 12 19:13:41 slpyhd: you say there is no transparency in hardware? YOu mean in OpenGL or in 2d? Jan 12 19:13:54 the open drivers never crashed on me really Jan 12 19:13:56 maybe put them in "1337" Jan 12 19:13:58 heh Jan 12 19:14:04 Dominian: heh Jan 12 19:14:14 Kyle_S: the new 2d stuff from xorg Jan 12 19:14:18 <-- SlackFart has quit ("Bezig met verlaten") Jan 12 19:14:21 what's it called again Jan 12 19:14:25 foureyes779: or better yet.. a snot string running from nose to finger and a globe as the bugger Jan 12 19:14:38 slpyhd: Ahh tahts not important then. If it was having trouble doing blending and transparency under opengl ;) then I'd say Woooh! Jan 12 19:14:39 composite Jan 12 19:14:49 \/1r()5 r3/\/\0\/4L Jan 12 19:14:53 hu...OK that IS something to think about. Jan 12 19:15:07 --> SlackFart (~el_fart0@dc51468581.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:15:23 foureyes779: checkout 17:58 < thr1ce> ATI is supposed to be releasing good drivers...now? Jan 12 19:15:29 ARGH, sorry bout that. Jan 12 19:15:32 charge people 10 bucks to come to there house and run Adaware on their system...heh Jan 12 19:15:37 checkout http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=xx-hacker Jan 12 19:15:50 foureyes779: 10 is too little Jan 12 19:15:52 make em bleed Jan 12 19:16:07 unless it's a nice girl ;p Jan 12 19:16:14 naw, im not greedy Jan 12 19:16:32 blood? Jan 12 19:16:38 I always measure it to my annoyance :) Jan 12 19:16:51 i have "UBCD" i could run on their system that has virus removal also Jan 12 19:17:04 I don't understand, what is so erotic about drinking blood? Jan 12 19:17:15 tewmten: blech Jan 12 19:17:19 tewmten: try it Jan 12 19:17:33 <-- Dario has quit ("oh sh!t.") Jan 12 19:17:37 --> solsTiCe (~solsTiCe@d80-170-18-226.cust.tele2.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:17:44 groovy, lipstick style and nuvola icons == wickid nice Jan 12 19:17:51 slpyhd: it's a small town so i wouldnt have to travel very far... Jan 12 19:18:11 charge more if i have to ride the bus. Jan 12 19:18:13 heh Jan 12 19:18:17 :O Jan 12 19:18:41 --> eelriverlt (~murph@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:18:52 tewmten: Wuhh? Jan 12 19:18:53 <-- okmeufilho has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 19:19:07 tewmten: lipstick icons? Ok screenshot and link me, I have no idea what your talking about. Jan 12 19:19:13 ;) Jan 12 19:19:17 --> assd (~root@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:19:17 --- nixor sets ban on *!~root@* Jan 12 19:19:17 <-- nixor has kicked assd from ##slackware (banned: It is very dangerous to IRC as root. Please return under a user account.) Jan 12 19:19:31 no the kde style that's called Lipstick, and then the Nuvola icon theme Jan 12 19:19:42 Ahh. Jan 12 19:19:44 umm. Jan 12 19:20:08 heh, i could install netcat.exe on there machine's and do maintenance on them from here... Jan 12 19:20:49 ssh would be better so you'd have login auth Jan 12 19:21:08 --> assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:21:39 im thinkin Win32 though Jan 12 19:21:53 cygwin supports sshd Jan 12 19:22:01 <-- r00tsh3ll has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 19:22:26 <-- Zarco has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 19:22:41 <-- assd (~assd@200.121.53.10) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 19:22:57 can i background it as a bootup process so i can log in when needed to remove temp files ? Jan 12 19:23:20 ye Jan 12 19:23:28 it can run as a service Jan 12 19:23:49 cygrunsrv controls it from w/i cygwin itself but you can use net start/stop too Jan 12 19:24:18 used to use it on xp box when i worked for an isp here Jan 12 19:24:44 aah, nice Jan 12 19:25:13 pingtimeout: i will have to look into that Jan 12 19:25:26 it's more convenient than remote desktop or something Jan 12 19:25:45 i was just thinking netcat -l -v -e "cmd.exe" -p 12345 Jan 12 19:25:56 <-- ximpul has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 19:25:59 that way it just gives me a prompt Jan 12 19:26:14 --> SuseUX (~SuseUX@cpc1-mapp3-6-1-cust78.nott.cable.ntl.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:26:42 you or anyone else that's bored and tries to connect tho Jan 12 19:26:43 --- SuseUX is now known as SlackUX Jan 12 19:27:20 I have a theory about getting reiser4 to work with Slack! Jan 12 19:27:32 pingtimeout: tnx for the tip Jan 12 19:27:56 yw Jan 12 19:29:03 it takes a little bit longer to install but it's more convenient since you have a lot of linux commands available for troubleshooting too Jan 12 19:29:17 --> _Daedric (~noneof@adslsapo-b5-214-183.telepac.pt) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:29:18 I wounder if it work, any one care to comment? Jan 12 19:31:17 what's the theory? Jan 12 19:31:18 putting a precompiled kernel2.6.9-mm1 on a disk and booting it with slack Jan 12 19:31:18 pingtimeout: so a full Cygwin install is necessary ? Jan 12 19:31:18 with reiser4 support built in Jan 12 19:31:18 foureyes779: no..you can select what components you want..a full install gives you apache, xterm, and lots of other stuff you'll never use Jan 12 19:31:18 --> epic (~epic@220.80-202-211.nextgentel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:31:43 SlackUX: I think that's how you have to do it anyway Jan 12 19:31:59 pingtimeout: so i could just download the needed components and burn them onto a CD and do it that way then ? Jan 12 19:32:00 then mkfs reiser4 and boot the kernel, in theory slack should load the kernel and install? Jan 12 19:32:17 foureyes779: yep..you can install locally or from a mirror site Jan 12 19:32:28 --> SystemX (~systemx@static24-72-27-78.reverse.accesscomm.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:32:44 if there any better outcomes if i used source code of packages instead of the pre-builds? Jan 12 19:33:01 can i optimize it for my system? Jan 12 19:33:12 Dominian: I was thinking of trying it last night but ynsure weather to because losing my compile gnome 2.8.2 :-) Jan 12 19:33:25 unsure* Jan 12 19:33:56 --> okmeufilho (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:33:59 pingtimeout: cool, i have always done the FULL install from te web Jan 12 19:34:11 yanger: you can compile your own feature and optimized flags yes Jan 12 19:34:23 foureyes779: that's like 2 gig of stuff Jan 12 19:34:37 SlackUX, that's all done in the ./configure, rite? Jan 12 19:34:39 you can use the default and add sshd and whatever else you want Jan 12 19:34:45 i have usually mirrored the -current directory to my local disk, and installed from there. Jan 12 19:34:56 using rsync to keep up-to-date is quite easy. Jan 12 19:34:59 yanger: yes ./configure --help Jan 12 19:35:23 SlackUX, last q.. ./configure is usually the same for all source codes, yes? Jan 12 19:35:36 pingtimeout: heh, yeah.... Jan 12 19:35:49 yanger: ./configure --prefix=/usr CFLAGS=-mtune=athlon-xp Jan 12 19:35:52 <-- Daedric has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 12 19:35:53 i liked being able to use KDE on a Winbox though Jan 12 19:35:59 should I when I move a file from home directory change it to root.root and chmod 655 it??! Jan 12 19:36:10 doesn't matter if you connecting remotely Jan 12 19:36:14 --> bei (~brian@68-67-23-23.losaca.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:36:17 yanger: no, ./configure configures build options. These are different for different pieces of software. Jan 12 19:36:23 thats for gcc 3.4 Jan 12 19:36:29 and ppl are going to be kinda bitter when they find out you're charging them extra for a full install Jan 12 19:36:43 StevenR, but hmm.. ok.. Jan 12 19:37:14 your best off doing gnome with ./configure --prefix=/usr Jan 12 19:37:30 is there any pitfalls by doing that? Jan 12 19:37:39 yanger: some software needs different options, and can optionally include support for other stuff. configure also checks for various dependancies and system variables. Jan 12 19:37:47 <-- slpyhd (~slpyhd@212-123-143-232-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl) has left ##slackware ("Voorbij.") Jan 12 19:37:52 pingtimeout: naw, i wouldnt carge for that, i was thinking of charging a flat rate to clean out their system every couple of weeks Jan 12 19:37:53 but a few other gnome sources need extra options Jan 12 19:38:22 keep maintenance on it for 2 bucks a month... Jan 12 19:38:25 --> paul_ (~paul@pool-138-89-156-154.mad.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:38:35 s/2/20 Jan 12 19:38:37 yanger: you need to compile the gnome sources in the correct order Jan 12 19:38:39 foureyes779: it's less time to pick and choose..specially if you're working flat rate...you can use the time for other things Jan 12 19:38:45 --> darkarcon2015 (~darkarcon@dsl-64-246-157-89.rtr0-cox.statetel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:38:48 hoy hoy! Jan 12 19:38:49 need to? Jan 12 19:38:55 YES Jan 12 19:39:03 <-- Redb3ard has quit ("ircII EPIC4-2.0 -- Are we there yet?") Jan 12 19:39:15 --> Redb3ard (~oylerj@c-24-125-12-101.va.client2.attbi.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:39:19 <-- tvv has quit ("ðÏËÉÄÁÀ") Jan 12 19:39:22 because if you dont the source will not find what it depends on Jan 12 19:39:23 pingtimeout: thats why i could set up the install CD here first with just the components needed Jan 12 19:39:23 anyone here familiar with ethereal plugin system? Jan 12 19:39:36 how do you go about getting your own PGP public key? Jan 12 19:39:36 i see Jan 12 19:39:50 pingtimeout: i wouldnt do a FULL install on a clients machine Jan 12 19:40:06 foureyes779: yep...might add spyware removal stuff and clamav or something too Jan 12 19:40:07 Luck I had a mag with the order to compile :-) Jan 12 19:40:08 could u do --disable-dependency-tracking? Jan 12 19:40:09 to save time Jan 12 19:40:46 or is it because u have to ./configure ... ; make ; make install each package of gnome? Jan 12 19:40:49 they would have to be CLI since i would only be logging into a shell right ? Jan 12 19:40:55 is there a way for me to install windows xp from linux ? Jan 12 19:40:55 :) Jan 12 19:41:09 sunbx, no. only emulate Jan 12 19:41:10 gpg --gen-key Jan 12 19:41:18 sunbx: didnt someone mention qemu earlier ? Jan 12 19:41:20 sunbx, there is software u could try, but i heard it's $$$$$ Jan 12 19:41:24 <-- Squall`` has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 12 19:41:32 yanger: yes you do, but gdm for example needs a fre prefix changes Jan 12 19:41:36 foureyes779: clamav is cmd line...you could also use something like stinger from nai for removal of common viruses Jan 12 19:41:45 afew* Jan 12 19:41:47 pingtimeout: sweet Jan 12 19:41:58 SlackUX, ack. maybe i'll just use the pre-packaged heh Jan 12 19:41:58 yanger i could pay for the software , but my problem is that i don't have x window on the system Jan 12 19:42:05 <-- darkarcon2015 has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 19:42:09 sunbx, so install x11-xorg Jan 12 19:42:30 yanger: hehe, to easy and source is always the lastest Jan 12 19:42:30 <-- okmeufilho has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 19:42:31 yanger is that necessary ? Jan 12 19:43:02 sunbx, yes.. it needs a base Jan 12 19:43:15 windows can't just run off the console Jan 12 19:43:20 that'd make microsoft mad Jan 12 19:43:21 :P Jan 12 19:43:53 you can start a 2k install from cmd line w/ winnt Jan 12 19:43:54 try vmware if ur desperate.. can't garuntee that windows xp will work Jan 12 19:43:55 anyone here using kopete? Jan 12 19:43:56 haven't tried xp Jan 12 19:44:05 I'm a bit curious how to edit the timestamps in it.. Jan 12 19:44:19 --> okmeufilho (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:44:19 ok thanks for the info guys *muak* tell riddy i said hi Jan 12 19:44:25 <-- yanger has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 19:44:28 --> j0k3r (~rddalceno@200.189.78.206) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:44:39 sunbx: if you want to run windows on top of linux through an emulator (which is the only way) you need X11. Jan 12 19:44:39 what is the command to kill X server? Jan 12 19:44:49 okmeufilho: ctrl-alt-bkspce Jan 12 19:44:50 --> waiehu (~waiehu@c-67-180-182-8.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:45:00 StevenR, I mean command Jan 12 19:45:00 <-- SystemX has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 19:45:13 killall -9 X Jan 12 19:45:28 StevenR ok i will install x11 but what is the best wy to run xp ? Jan 12 19:45:37 StevenR, because Blackbox cant exit if bbkeys is running Jan 12 19:45:55 --> SystemX (~systemx@static24-72-27-78.reverse.accesscomm.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:46:00 so the unique way is change quit blackbox to kill X Jan 12 19:46:02 sunbx: use qemu cos it's free. or vmware, but that costs actual money afaik. Jan 12 19:46:16 okmeufilho: ? Jan 12 19:46:30 StevenR, blackbox cant exit if it is using bbkeys Jan 12 19:46:41 that's silly Jan 12 19:46:48 qemu needs X Jan 12 19:47:02 StevenR, what is silly? Jan 12 19:47:25 blackbox cant exit if it is using bbkeys ==silly. that sounds like a bug Jan 12 19:48:15 StevenR quemu freezez. installed it 10 mins ago Jan 12 19:48:25 i start it and it freezes Jan 12 19:48:34 sunbx: how are you starting it? Jan 12 19:48:35 he prolly assigned the "ctrl+alt+backspace" key to something else Jan 12 19:48:56 qemu needs X Jan 12 19:49:01 qemu -cdrom slackware.iso -hda scratch.img -boot d Jan 12 19:49:07 <-- okmeufilho has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 19:49:13 scratch.img exists :) Jan 12 19:49:18 sunbx: and you have x running and are typing in a terminal? Jan 12 19:49:27 --> blizzow (~blizzow@12.45.127.130) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:49:32 <-- waiehu has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 19:49:36 typing in a terminal , but shouldn't it get a error Jan 12 19:49:37 ??? Jan 12 19:49:43 * foureyes779 whispers "qemu needs X" Jan 12 19:49:55 * sunbx heard that ! Jan 12 19:49:56 :D Jan 12 19:49:59 heh Jan 12 19:50:09 sunbx: are you running X? where are yopu typing that command? Jan 12 19:50:11 sunbx: wasnt sure if ya saw it.... Jan 12 19:50:17 hahaha Jan 12 19:50:19 cool Jan 12 19:50:19 :) Jan 12 19:50:27 whell in the termminal , no x Jan 12 19:50:34 but i espected a error Jan 12 19:50:40 not a freezed command Jan 12 19:51:13 sunbx: you need X. It's waiting to find an X server. or it's actually runng, just you can't see it, cos it's on an imaginary x server. Jan 12 19:51:38 what options should I pass to ./configure in order to get a mod_ssl server compiled on my slack9 box? Jan 12 19:52:07 blizzow: ./configure --help should tell you. Jan 12 19:52:25 --> ghoul` (~gh@h212-5-96-134.rev.domonet.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:52:51 re all Jan 12 19:52:59 --> okmeufilho (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:53:05 I've done that and the --enable-ssl --enable-shared-mods=all gives me a lot of trouble once it's installed. My httpd.conf comes back with all kinds of syntax errors. Jan 12 19:53:21 Even though it's working with my current httpd (2.0.48) Jan 12 19:53:50 <-- vmhobbes has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 19:53:51 blizzow, what errors in the conf? Jan 12 19:53:59 <-- SlackUX (~SuseUX@cpc1-mapp3-6-1-cust78.nott.cable.ntl.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 19:54:06 might be able to help you there... did the same thing myself, took almost a month to figure it out Jan 12 19:54:14 but once the conf was tweaked, its nice Jan 12 19:54:18 what's with #slackware? Jan 12 19:54:38 hermann, apparently its reserved should volkerding ever want it Jan 12 19:54:51 I see Jan 12 19:55:04 Redb3ard: I was getting "Can't locate API module structure `mod_ssl' in file /usr/local/apache2/modules/mod_ssl.so: /usr/local/apache2/lib/libapr-0.so.0: undefined symbol: mod_ssl" Jan 12 19:55:29 The previous line said syntax error on line 232 of httpd.conf. Jan 12 19:55:29 hmm Jan 12 19:55:57 i got some ?'s about upgrading my kernel Jan 12 19:55:59 blizzow, are you mixing the mod_ssl.so with the binary not compiled with the support? Jan 12 19:56:15 <-- feross has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 19:56:29 I didn't think so, I moved my old /usr/local/apache2 to /usr/local/apache2.backup before I did a make install. Jan 12 19:56:56 in the /boot directory, System.map is symlinked to System.map-ide-2.4.26, as is config to config-ide.2.4.26 Jan 12 19:57:05 Then I tried to copy over my working httpd.conf and run apachectl restart. Jan 12 19:57:07 --> DarkTide_ (~nerd@dialup-4.156.102.11.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:57:07 --> okmeufilho_ (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:57:08 <-- okmeufilho_ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 19:57:10 That's when I got the errors. Jan 12 19:57:29 --> althalus (~althalus@c-67-170-176-30.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 19:57:31 if i want to upgrade, i'm assuming i would need to delete those links, or modify them to point to the new System.map and config, but in doing this, will i lose the ability to go back on the upgrade? Jan 12 19:57:46 hmm, well i'll be damned. -current's 2.4.28 kernel sees my sata drives, and sees them properly as scsi devices Jan 12 19:57:47 so if the upgrade doesn't work, will I still be able to boot with the old kernel? Jan 12 19:58:01 I wouldn't think that the old httpd binary could be cached. Jan 12 19:59:01 i like 2.4.28 Jan 12 19:59:34 When I run httpd -l on my old v.2.0.48 binary it lists a ton of Compiled in modules: Jan 12 20:00:03 <-- DarkTide has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 12 20:00:31 i guess now i don't have a pressing need for doing a proper -current with 2.6.x Jan 12 20:01:02 you still should, it'd be neat Jan 12 20:02:26 --> kamikazi (~000@194.146.155.69) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:02:42 ??? ???? ? ????????? ???? ?????? Jan 12 20:02:43 :S Jan 12 20:02:52 <-- okmeufilho has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 20:03:04 lebanese kamikazis Jan 12 20:03:11 now ive seen everything Jan 12 20:03:38 <-- Nomius has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 12 20:03:55 --> Squall`` (~squall@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:05:41 <-- Cirkit has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 20:08:24 heh Jan 12 20:08:46 mooooo Jan 12 20:08:59 :) Jan 12 20:11:18 --- Gartt_ is now known as Gartt Jan 12 20:14:05 --> Nomius (~Nomius@200.117.220.220) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:15:56 Gartt: Misread your nick change.. thought it said: Gartt_ is now known as Fartt Jan 12 20:16:22 anyone here own a FX660 or FX6800 AGP card? Jan 12 20:16:23 --> thiagomz (~thiagomz@200.187.173.86) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:16:31 FX6600 rather.... Jan 12 20:16:35 <-- octavious has quit ("bye") Jan 12 20:17:20 Redb3ard, lol i advice you to rescan my ip :P Jan 12 20:17:26 --> MAN_Hater (~Too_Rude@adsl-70-240-103-10.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:18:00 acidkill, fx6800 here Jan 12 20:18:07 arrived today :D Jan 12 20:18:19 all i see is Jan 12 20:18:23 nice...was thinking of getting one. but i dont really play games much. Jan 12 20:18:23 fred87: shaddup.. you and your amd64 and fx6800.. blah Jan 12 20:18:24 hehe Jan 12 20:18:27 which im pretty sure is lebanon Jan 12 20:18:28 * MAN_Hater wonders if that is a chip number Jan 12 20:18:32 --> jmedina (~jmedina@63.70.73.227) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:18:41 man_hater, nvidia graphics card Jan 12 20:18:43 i just want to upgrade and give my parents my FX5200. Jan 12 20:18:54 fred87 ahh ok Jan 12 20:19:01 Redb3ard, actually you need better app to work on Jan 12 20:19:13 acidkill, it's very nice :) Jan 12 20:19:26 not advertised too well, but it's also dual head card Jan 12 20:19:29 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:19:47 he 6600s are ~210+, and the 6800s are ~250+. Jan 12 20:20:12 kamikazi, wrote it myself Jan 12 20:20:19 and its nothing like perfect Jan 12 20:20:20 but i was also looking at just getting a 5500 with 256MB... Jan 12 20:20:23 hmm, this new workstation i got is zippy. i'm moving inferno to it now. p4 3.4ghz proc, 1gb ram, 80g sata drive, etc Jan 12 20:20:35 half the people here, it just leaves them blank, because it cant tell at all Jan 12 20:20:37 kamikazi: lebanon Jan 12 20:20:37 acidkill, i hate a 128mb 5500 until this morning... Jan 12 20:20:42 128mb 6800 is worth it Jan 12 20:20:43 Redb3ard, then you're not that good coder ;P Jan 12 20:20:44 --> Ava3ar (~ava3ar@user-1256.l6.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:20:44 fred87: how was that for you? Jan 12 20:20:52 nice, but 6800 worth extra Jan 12 20:21:27 <-- althalus has quit () Jan 12 20:21:29 do the nvidia drivers work well with them both? any strange issues? Jan 12 20:21:31 --> sinope (1000@bur-jud-175-061.rh.uchicago.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:21:41 Squall``: !! Jan 12 20:21:42 being that it doesnt use anything as lame as domain tld's, id say im rather clever Jan 12 20:22:30 how can i easily find out my IP ? Jan 12 20:22:39 Redb3ard, WoW Jan 12 20:22:44 acidkill, i dunno about the x86 drivers, but the x86_64 seem perfect Jan 12 20:22:50 sinope, www.whatismyip.com Jan 12 20:23:02 sinope : ifconfig Jan 12 20:23:07 kamikazi: yes.... i was hoping a unix command Jan 12 20:23:08 sinope: www.ipchicken.com Jan 12 20:23:09 ananke: ! :) Jan 12 20:23:14 sinope: bur-jud-175-061.rh.uchicago.edu has address 128.135.175.61 Jan 12 20:23:37 acidkill: thanks. :P i know what it is, i wanted the command to get it Jan 12 20:23:47 oh...hehehe. Jan 12 20:23:52 ifconfig is what i was looking for :) Jan 12 20:24:00 ifconfig wont work if you are behind a nat though... Jan 12 20:24:03 sinope, :S Jan 12 20:24:06 --> cbpye (~BPye@adsl-068-157-166-011.sip.sav.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:24:13 well, it will. but not really. Jan 12 20:24:16 acidkill: oh? it'll just give the local IP ? Jan 12 20:24:21 cripes. Jan 12 20:24:29 yea, ie, mine is 24.144.75.168. Jan 12 20:24:41 sinope, www.whatismyip.com Jan 12 20:24:45 most of the time i just get on irc and whois my self. Jan 12 20:25:00 <-- Dominian has quit ("headin' /home") Jan 12 20:25:06 sinope, visit the site Jan 12 20:25:12 kamikazi: yessir Jan 12 20:25:35 sinope, i'm Dr and not a sir ;P kiddin' Jan 12 20:26:17 <-- ghoul` has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 20:26:46 the idea is when i get my lappy, i want my IP in my PS1 so I know who I am as i move around Jan 12 20:27:04 i guess the easiest way is to set a variable during logon and call it in PS1 ? Jan 12 20:27:09 so kamikazi, if my script is wrong, how wrong is it? Jan 12 20:27:13 Anyone use tape drives? Jan 12 20:27:33 Gartt: my dad did Jan 12 20:27:39 Gartt: WHEN DINOSAURS ROAMED THE EARTH Jan 12 20:27:44 hehe Jan 12 20:28:05 Just that I have about 100 gigs of impt data that I want to store Jan 12 20:28:12 hmm. Jan 12 20:28:12 sinope: i just use the hostname. Jan 12 20:28:14 sinope http://www.pastebin.com/228104 Jan 12 20:28:22 desktop is quark, and laptop si neutrino. Jan 12 20:28:28 But they still sell tons of tape drives, and they're supposedly more reliable, right? Jan 12 20:28:32 Redb3ard, actually i'm from russia, second i use an ip address from lebanon, so your script is doing well Jan 12 20:28:37 Gartt: they ARE more reliable... Jan 12 20:29:43 eelriverlt: you win! thanks!! :) Jan 12 20:29:52 np Jan 12 20:31:17 Redb3ard, there are direct and indirect connection Jan 12 20:31:52 Redb3ard, theory of computation ;p but you should reach the final state :S Jan 12 20:31:55 i know what a shell account is, btw Jan 12 20:32:06 * MAN_Hater cusses a N)on E)expensive T)est bsd for not finding my mouse Jan 12 20:32:15 Redb3ard, i'm not using a shell account :S Jan 12 20:33:01 Erumm, OK I'm really bad with sed... I know to replace a single expression per line you use s/\ /%20/ for instance...b ut how do you replace all? Jan 12 20:33:31 s//g Jan 12 20:33:34 *s///g Jan 12 20:33:43 g at the end and * at the begining? Jan 12 20:33:44 --> dwolf (~unknown@dwolf.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:33:55 no... Jan 12 20:33:56 s///g Jan 12 20:33:57 :) Jan 12 20:34:03 * meant correction then Jan 12 20:34:05 sorry Jan 12 20:34:17 lol Jan 12 20:34:20 Ahh ok. So what does the g do? Tell it run through the whole string? Jan 12 20:34:23 s/^\s*$//g Jan 12 20:34:25 :) Jan 12 20:34:26 Hey sed is something I've never needed to use. Jan 12 20:34:30 match multiple thingies per line Jan 12 20:34:34 fred87: Sweet. Jan 12 20:34:43 * Kyle_S will have to pickup the thin quick-reference to sed one of these days. Jan 12 20:35:14 If I've created a .p12 cert file that I can email to users, do I have to use the SSLCertificateFile and SSLCertificateKeyFile directives in my httpd.conf? Jan 12 20:35:19 * tewmten grinds down the o'reily sed & awk book and forcefeeds it to Kyle_S ! ;D Jan 12 20:35:24 or just one of them? Jan 12 20:35:32 <-- Squall`` has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.3/20040910]") Jan 12 20:35:35 Kyle_s thank you for giving me the name of those helpfull laminates Jan 12 20:35:36 <-- kamikazi (~000@194.146.155.69) has left ##slackware Jan 12 20:35:49 * Kyle_S adds a bit of tabasco Jan 12 20:35:49 mmm tasty. Jan 12 20:35:49 --> icry0000 (icry0000@61.149.146.156) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:35:51 MAN_Hater: Heh NP. Jan 12 20:35:52 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:35:53 i was going to buy that book...always wanted to get better with regexes and text manipulations. Jan 12 20:36:08 mm, pattern scanning licious! Jan 12 20:36:11 eelriverlt: i streamlined your script a bit Jan 12 20:36:13 eelriverlt: try: Jan 12 20:36:14 /usr/bin/wget http://checkip.dyndns.org -O - -q | cut -d: -f2 | cut -d\< -f1 | cut -d\ -f2 Jan 12 20:36:30 ha! and people think linux is confusing! Jan 12 20:36:38 lol/ Jan 12 20:38:25 I don't understand them.. Jan 12 20:38:26 OK I really HATE using windos. Jan 12 20:38:26 * Kyle_S can't wait to get his real machine back. Jan 12 20:38:26 whine dos.. Jan 12 20:38:26 why don't you just use the dyndns.org client... Jan 12 20:38:26 fred87: ? Jan 12 20:38:26 What's wrong with your box Kyle_S? Jan 12 20:38:26 <-- StevenR has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 20:38:26 fred87: what's the sport in that? :) Jan 12 20:38:26 Gartt: its in a locked room at my old uni, since I lent it to my proff while I was in Japan. And I have to wait maybe another week to get it. Jan 12 20:38:26 HI, everyone.Is there a multi-threaded multi-protocol download software availiable under linux?? Jan 12 20:38:26 sinope kewl - it worked here als thanx Jan 12 20:38:27 icry0000, what???? Jan 12 20:38:27 what's a download software? Jan 12 20:38:27 Gartt: so for doing actual work I' Jan 12 20:38:27 /usr/bin/wget http://checkip.dyndns.org -O - -q | cut -d: -f2 | cut -d\< -f1 | cut -d\ -f2 Jan 12 20:38:27 you mean a download manager? Jan 12 20:38:27 oops Jan 12 20:38:27 like flashget under windows Jan 12 20:38:27 join #solaris Jan 12 20:38:27 <-- grey has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 20:38:27 yeah , Jan 12 20:38:27 * Squall` kills ximpul Jan 12 20:38:27 ximpul: TRAITOR! Jan 12 20:38:27 oops, Jan 12 20:38:27 forgot the slash Jan 12 20:38:28 im still here Jan 12 20:38:29 lol Jan 12 20:38:31 I'm running my servers and irc and such off of my meager lappie, and using a windos box of my fam's for browsing and typing. Jan 12 20:38:33 haha Jan 12 20:38:34 and such. Jan 12 20:38:42 i need to cry to them Jan 12 20:38:44 Squall`: but wget IS a download manager... Jan 12 20:38:45 squall , do u know some?? Jan 12 20:38:48 about a solaris issue Jan 12 20:39:02 or if you don't like wget, there is always curl... Jan 12 20:39:09 Kyle_S, huh? i didn't ask the question Jan 12 20:39:13 it was icry0000 Jan 12 20:39:22 i just asked to clarify Jan 12 20:39:22 i want a multi-threaded to speed up the traffic Jan 12 20:39:25 Squall`: you said something about a download manager ;) and I pointed out wget IS a download manager. Jan 12 20:39:39 --> linnewbye (1000@80.97.71.23) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:39:42 :) Jan 12 20:40:03 icry0000, multi-threaded programs have nothing to do with the download speed Jan 12 20:40:12 Squall`: actually I just scrolled back up, you said software... damn my ttb is screwing up. Jan 12 20:40:26 ttb? you mean tty? Jan 12 20:40:34 ??? Jan 12 20:40:34 from imagemagick.SlackBuild: "# Lately ImageMagick has been smoking crack:" Jan 12 20:40:34 :P Jan 12 20:40:42 Squall`: no I mean ttb. text to brain. Jan 12 20:40:47 oh :) Jan 12 20:40:51 --> specialsauce (~captainho@ip68-104-201-117.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:41:29 in some situations, it really speed up. Jan 12 20:42:01 * Kyle_S wonders how outdated his php3 book is.... Jan 12 20:42:01 I installed xcdroast for cd burning and it runs as normal user but i need to first run it as root to configure it. However, when I try to load it as root it cannot locate cdrtools because it is looking for it in the wrong directory. Isn't there a way I can make it run as root? Jan 12 20:42:03 icry0000, again, multi-threading has absolutely NOTHING to do with download speed Jan 12 20:42:07 my site,not everbody have a 100MB/s connection Jan 12 20:42:16 <-- crackjack has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 20:43:40 Squall`: prehaps he's confusing the idea of swarming and the idea of multi threadding? Jan 12 20:43:46 and what do you mean by 'multi-protocol' downloads? Jan 12 20:43:51 * MAN_Hater wonders if I am the only one that netbsd laptop kernel won't find my mouse Jan 12 20:43:55 Kyle_S, i'm not familiar with the term 'swarming' Jan 12 20:44:21 yeah, what is swarming? Jan 12 20:44:29 Squall`: its what bit torrent does, and what gnutella and several other download systems do (but they often use fancy marketspeach and words arround it) Jan 12 20:44:32 --> X[z]X (~xzx@bzq-218-90-241.red.bezeqint.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:44:39 oh Jan 12 20:44:47 ha, Jan 12 20:44:59 Squall`: downloading peices of one file from several places at once, to maximise your downstream bandwith, without hitting any of the servers too hard. Jan 12 20:45:15 i know bt must use multi-threaded Jan 12 20:45:18 sinope (where is the who is add on to that script (grin Jan 12 20:45:24 icry0000, any program that boasts that it is multithreaded, it's just a bunch of crap, any decent large project has multiple threads Jan 12 20:45:28 Squall`: its the one reason I keep BitTorrent arround, downloading distro isos. Jan 12 20:45:33 whoa Jan 12 20:45:35 icry0000, do you know what threads are? Jan 12 20:45:38 .cn? is that china? Jan 12 20:45:50 thats a first Jan 12 20:45:53 for me anyway Jan 12 20:45:58 Squall`: I disagree, "decent" projects only have multiple threads if they NEED it. Jan 12 20:46:02 * Kyle_S coughs unlike kde. Jan 12 20:46:08 * Kyle_S coughs and xine Jan 12 20:46:19 --> foquinha (~oito@82.155.101.24) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:46:21 Kyle_S, don't tell me kde doesn't have multi-threading? Jan 12 20:46:28 <-- j0k3r has quit ("leaving") Jan 12 20:46:33 --> sdogi (~java@84-50-18-221-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:46:34 Squall`: it has it, it has TOO much of it. It doesn't need it. Jan 12 20:46:42 * MAN_Hater Kyle (wonders if since you mix them you get kaffiene ? Jan 12 20:46:57 i meant download one file from the different start point with different thread, to boost up Jan 12 20:47:03 Squall`: multithreadding when its not needed tends to create software thats harder to debug, and takes more cpu than necisary. Jan 12 20:47:12 * Kyle_S again whishes ispell plugged into irssi. Jan 12 20:47:28 MAN_Hater: kaffine? Jan 12 20:47:32 i used to nohup btdownload something Jan 12 20:47:32 <-- specialsauce has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 20:47:32 MAN_Hater: heh never used it. Jan 12 20:47:39 multithreading, necessary Jan 12 20:48:05 Kyle_s thats what you get when you mix (use) xine for kde (it's an ap Jan 12 20:48:07 when i kill the btdownload bg process.... Jan 12 20:48:09 NeoLaptop: its not always necessary is the point. Jan 12 20:48:15 MAN_Hater: Ahh ok. Heh thats kindof a cool name. Jan 12 20:48:19 Kyle_S, yeah, i know :D Jan 12 20:48:32 --> clem_yeats (~NA@193.120.102.209) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:48:33 and restart it , i got a broken file Jan 12 20:48:35 * Kyle_S is currently mainlining drip coffee and pondering making a pot of espresso. Jan 12 20:49:18 <-- MAN_Hater has quit ("If you are reading this then it exited correctly : If you are not reading this ; then why did I write it ?") Jan 12 20:49:26 --> Flendor (Flendor@195.174.32.147) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:49:28 Hello. Jan 12 20:50:16 --> nachox (~nacho@200-122-58-74.dsl.prima.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:50:32 hey nacho Jan 12 20:50:45 hey Jan 12 20:51:01 <-- paul_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 20:52:14 <-- thiagomz has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 20:52:26 --> RBX (RBX@40.229.dial-up.xter.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:52:37 hello! Jan 12 20:52:47 --> grey (~grey@Sudbury-HSE-ppp3980823.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:53:26 <-- clem_yeats has quit () Jan 12 20:53:55 <-- RBX (RBX@40.229.dial-up.xter.net) has left ##slackware Jan 12 20:54:55 --> sami_ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:54:59 * NeoLaptop figures out how to run ARTSD while in xfce, giving him sound multiplexing abilities Jan 12 20:55:00 Hu... anyone have experience with tech books from "Peachpit Press"? Jan 12 20:55:59 --> ww (~ww@201.133.106.152) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:56:10 weird how artsplay doesn't have a manual page though Jan 12 20:56:22 argh, I'm so lagged Jan 12 20:56:27 --- ww is now known as Roa Jan 12 20:56:41 --> HeatHawk (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 20:56:51 <-- TaQ has quit ("gone!") Jan 12 20:57:02 <-- we2by has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 20:59:57 <-- sinope has quit ("leaving") Jan 12 20:59:59 --> sami___ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:00:14 <-- sdogi_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 21:01:56 Anyone could tell me something about server management software?? Jan 12 21:03:11 * NeoLaptop creates a wish for kde bug tracker, "please give us artsplay documentation" Jan 12 21:03:33 * NeoLaptop now realizes maybe he should've asked "please give me the info so i can *create* artsplay documentation" Jan 12 21:04:31 * NeoLaptop adds that as a comment Jan 12 21:05:13 --> pgas (~pgas@ip-92-250.first.gr) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:05:46 i wish there was an option to give applications a sound "bias". i.e. i use arts for xchat and gaim, as well as xmms. it's annoying when some ogg files are playing in xmms and xchat/gaim sound events are louder, wish i could give as part of the artsplay command like a -v -1 or something, give them -1 dB sound bias, etc Jan 12 21:09:01 some programs have independent volume controls Jan 12 21:09:15 thats really what you need...to add that feature to apps that are missing it Jan 12 21:09:22 <-- nachox has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 21:09:30 where can i find a tutorial about installing X windows system / Jan 12 21:09:30 ? Jan 12 21:09:35 x window* Jan 12 21:10:40 <-- sami__ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 21:10:58 --> sami__ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:11:17 sunbx, configuring X. I think installing is not the problem Jan 12 21:11:59 i think it is as long as i dont even have the startx command Jan 12 21:11:59 :) Jan 12 21:12:18 * NeoLaptop wonders if someone forgot to install X Jan 12 21:12:25 does this x window system has a homapage ? Jan 12 21:12:35 http://www.x.org (should be) Jan 12 21:12:37 is not a home pc where i want to install is a linux server Jan 12 21:12:47 x is not needed there Jan 12 21:12:56 is needed now in order to install windows Xp Jan 12 21:12:58 <-- bsdevious has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 21:13:03 <-- Flendor has quit () Jan 12 21:13:17 <-- sami_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 21:13:29 sunbx, ehmmm Jan 12 21:13:29 sunbx, well make up your mind: is it needed, or not? Jan 12 21:13:34 --> KifKroker_ (~Kif@pool-68-161-82-10.ny325.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:13:44 <-- lilo has quit ("brb") Jan 12 21:13:53 hey hey . where can i get some current ISOS .. but in torrents ..? Jan 12 21:13:59 sunbx, confirm the distro is Slackware Jan 12 21:14:21 KifKroker_, www.google.com ? Jan 12 21:14:35 KifKroker_, anankes mirror Jan 12 21:14:39 -current ISOs aren't normally served up that way, afaik, but you might find a torrent somewhere in google Jan 12 21:14:45 just isos.. Jan 12 21:14:52 Polleke, he serves up -current torrents ? Jan 12 21:14:53 k Jan 12 21:14:55 --> ryen (~ryen@83.72.184.157.ip.tele2adsl.dk) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:14:57 yup Jan 12 21:14:57 (news to me) Jan 12 21:15:03 where Jan 12 21:15:03 is required. Jan 12 21:15:11 no torrents tough Jan 12 21:15:15 eh Jan 12 21:15:17 ftp Jan 12 21:15:36 sunbx, you're making no sense Jan 12 21:15:37 Polleke, well that's what i said. i know ananke's mirror has -current ISOs, but i never saw any torrents Jan 12 21:16:08 ah, k. I don't know about torrents Jan 12 21:16:11 i mean ... its a web hosting server and ircd. when i installed did not installed the x window , but now i need it in order to use qemu Jan 12 21:16:32 sunbx, and you work on it via SSH? Jan 12 21:17:07 Polleke yes but i have fizical acces 21 , after i install the x windows if that is the purpose of your wuestion Jan 12 21:17:07 :) Jan 12 21:17:20 ? Jan 12 21:17:23 KifKroker_, ftp://inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu Jan 12 21:17:41 what's the difference between checkinstall and slackpkg? Jan 12 21:17:42 KifKroker_, and his mirror is very very fast too: once i was downloading both -current ISOs at 180kbps each, at the same time Jan 12 21:17:44 heh I used to live in VT Jan 12 21:18:01 ShastaMaroon, huh? checkinstall is a utility to create slack packages, but you can also create rpms Jan 12 21:18:02 <-- Marverick has quit ("Thorns") Jan 12 21:18:13 hmm... Jan 12 21:18:21 sunbx, physical access Jan 12 21:18:32 what you said earlier though, I do ./configure, make, checkinstall to create a slackware package? Jan 12 21:18:36 Polleke yes sorry im romanian. chinese english :) Jan 12 21:18:36 then just installpkg blah Jan 12 21:18:57 ShastaMaroon, yeah, basically Jan 12 21:19:04 cool. Jan 12 21:19:04 <-- Roa has quit () Jan 12 21:19:07 trying it now. Jan 12 21:19:08 but checkinstall also installs the package it creates when you run it Jan 12 21:19:08 sunbx, the distro is Slackware? Jan 12 21:19:17 works for me Jan 12 21:19:42 make'ing gaim 1.1.1 Jan 12 21:19:56 ShastaMaroon, 1.1.1 is in -current, you could just upgrade to -current ... Jan 12 21:20:11 Polleke yes Jan 12 21:20:12 actually, i think gaim 1.1.1 might also be in slackare 10's patches Jan 12 21:20:29 please don't tell me to install via the installpkg because it won't start and i Jan 12 21:20:38 sunbx, grab the slackware X packages from any slackware mirror Jan 12 21:20:42 --> Roa (~wer@201.133.106.152) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:20:43 using 2.6.10 kernel Jan 12 21:20:50 yeah ... tolad ya :) Jan 12 21:20:57 told* Jan 12 21:21:09 then why did you ask? Jan 12 21:21:11 NeoLaptop, using that UPGRADE.TXT, even though its labeled 9.1 to 10.0 ? Jan 12 21:21:33 ShastaMaroon, yes, because if you read it, Pat says in there that it should work for other slackware version upgrades Jan 12 21:21:42 ShastaMaroon, but hang on, i think gaim 1.1.1 is in slackware 10's patches Jan 12 21:21:55 <-- PiterPunk has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 12 21:22:00 <-- icry0000 has quit () Jan 12 21:22:13 NeoLaptop, there's no way to do it over the network though? Gotta reboot into single user mode and such? Jan 12 21:22:16 <-- ReNz0r` has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 21:22:17 <-- grey has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 21:22:26 <-- sami___ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 21:23:32 ShastaMaroon, is http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-10.0/patches/packages/gaim-1.0.2-i486-1.tgz good enough? Jan 12 21:23:55 gaim 1.0.2? Jan 12 21:23:58 --> lilo (lilo@levin-pdpc.staff.freenode) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:23:58 that's old Jan 12 21:24:02 --> ReNz0r` (objorkum@ti411110a080-0132.bb.online.no) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:24:12 NeoLaptop, hmm...I guess it is Jan 12 21:24:13 ShastaMaroon, not really "do" it over the network. you can put all the packages for it on your machine from over the network, but you cannot do the install over network because you'll be in init=1 Jan 12 21:24:22 i want to install x window with that ./configure make make install stuff Jan 12 21:24:23 :) Jan 12 21:24:26 well i'm only trying to make things easier on you Jan 12 21:24:26 * sunbx is lame Jan 12 21:24:37 NeoLaptop, I understand this a little better now...I thought slackware-current was just a pointer to 10.0 Jan 12 21:24:47 sunbx, you're also sounding like a troll. please stop asking. you've been given the information. Jan 12 21:24:51 slack packages are already compiled ... but i changed alot of libs and things Jan 12 21:25:11 ShastaMaroon, no, -current is like slackware's testing for the next release (although it's quite stable) Jan 12 21:25:30 thx. on more q ... the qemu needs x window only or kde ? Jan 12 21:25:53 NeoLaptop, reading this, all I need to download is slackware-current/slackware, right? Don't need isolinux and all this other good stuff? Jan 12 21:26:02 ShastaMaroon, yeah, should be Jan 12 21:26:02 --> crackjack (1000@ip5452b530.speed.planet.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:26:20 excellent, thanks Jan 12 21:26:37 sunbx, How should we know? You've probably got the README for qemu right in front of you Jan 12 21:26:40 --> sami_ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:26:54 ShastaMaroon, but i prefer to grab /kernels as well, or at least the one you want for whichever kernel you prefer Jan 12 21:26:58 me, i prefer bareacpi.i Jan 12 21:27:00 --> WizeGuy` (~wize@ti112220a080-0030.bb.online.no) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:27:09 NeoLaptop, that makes sense. Jan 12 21:27:20 i got 10 KB/s ... i don't want to download huge files for nothing Jan 12 21:27:21 ok thx Jan 12 21:27:32 :) Jan 12 21:28:28 heya guys. I'm seeing the ethernet device "Linksys Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 model NC100" when I do 'lspci'. I've searched the net, and it says that tulip.o should be the module I need to bring the interface to life. But when I do a 'insmod tulip', I get errormessages. Any idea about what I can do? Jan 12 21:28:48 --> bsdevious (~bsd@solarisforums.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:28:52 --> rh0` (~rolando@host-205-241-35-189.acelerate.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:28:53 sunbx, _don't_ download from ftp.slackware.com Jan 12 21:29:01 WizeGuy`, yeah, figure out why you're getting that error. did you do "lsmod" and see if it's already loaded? Jan 12 21:29:29 and could you please give us the error messages? Jan 12 21:29:40 Polleke it doesn't matter where i am downloading from it still is 10 KB ... Jan 12 21:29:57 sunbx, ftp://inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu Jan 12 21:30:12 <-- sami__ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 21:30:12 NeoLaptop: sure, hang on. Jan 12 21:30:26 sunbx, you're doing weird stuff and asking weird questions.. Jan 12 21:30:29 --- DarkTide_ is now known as DarkTide Jan 12 21:30:29 * ananke will be rebooting inferno today, for the first time in months Jan 12 21:30:43 --> darkarcon2015 (~darkarcon@dsl-64-246-157-89.rtr0-cox.statetel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:30:48 <-- mastertet has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 21:30:49 hoy hoy! Jan 12 21:30:57 --> muetob (~muetob@84-72-61-16.dclient.hispeed.ch) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:31:13 can slackware access windows computers on a lan? Jan 12 21:31:18 or do i need samba Jan 12 21:31:22 NeoLaptop: 'lsmod' doesn't show the tulip module, and the errormessages I get are: /lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/drivers/net/tulip/tulip.o.gz: unresolved symbol crc32_le Jan 12 21:31:23 ananke, uh, do you ever host -current ISO torrents? Jan 12 21:31:24 smbclient Jan 12 21:31:30 <-- muetob (~muetob@84-72-61-16.dclient.hispeed.ch) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 21:31:35 WizeGuy`, try using "depmod" Jan 12 21:31:40 --> sami__ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:31:41 'depmod tulip' Jan 12 21:31:46 NeoLaptop : nope. Jan 12 21:31:56 NeoLaptop: depmod tulip? Jan 12 21:31:59 darkarcon2015, what do you want to do with that win box? Jan 12 21:31:59 ananke, just wondering Jan 12 21:32:02 WizeGuy`, yeah try that Jan 12 21:32:13 Polleke: i just want to get some files off of it Jan 12 21:32:16 <#include just4theheckofit.h> Jan 12 21:32:23 darkarcon2015, smbmounts Jan 12 21:32:39 NeoLaptop: is there anything in specific I should be looking after? Jan 12 21:33:00 uh, well if there's an unresolved symbol, i have a question: did you compile your own kernel, or is this a slackware kernel? Jan 12 21:33:19 this is a Slackware kernel Jan 12 21:33:24 default full installation Jan 12 21:33:49 WizeGuy`, uh, ok, bare.i probably, slackware 10 ? go to /boot and run (as root): "depmod -ae -F System.map" Jan 12 21:33:51 Polleke: do i have to get the samba package for that command, or is it its own package Jan 12 21:33:55 --- nixor removes ban on *!~root@* Jan 12 21:34:14 darkarcon2015, no idea, I think it requires some kernel stuff to. I've never used it Jan 12 21:34:21 darkarcon2015, i think it comes with samba Jan 12 21:34:21 oh Jan 12 21:34:39 I hate wget Jan 12 21:34:49 ShastaMaroon, you might not hate it if you knew how to use it better Jan 12 21:34:49 wget is good stuff Jan 12 21:34:51 NeoLaptop: did it, no error message or anything Jan 12 21:34:55 --> nachox (~nacho@200-122-60-157.dsl.prima.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:34:55 ShastaMaroon, why not use rsync? might be faster ... Jan 12 21:35:04 I did the -nH option. Jan 12 21:35:09 WizeGuy`, ok, now try it again: "modprobe tulip" Jan 12 21:35:18 WizeGuy`, you said you were using insmod. Could you try modprobe instead Jan 12 21:35:40 * NeoLaptop is listening to Phil Collins - Hits - Another Day in Paradise Jan 12 21:35:42 because I do wget file doesn't mean I want /pub/linux/more/crap/file listed. I just want file in the active directory. Jan 12 21:35:49 Polleke: so you wouldnt happen to know how to use smbmount? Jan 12 21:35:58 NeoLaptop: ok, I tried 'modprobe tulip', and no errormessage there either. Jan 12 21:35:59 ShastaMaroon, so you're grabbing only one file? Jan 12 21:36:08 NeoLaptop, no, but I set up my own directories. Jan 12 21:36:12 darkarcon2015, I think there are just fine manuals Jan 12 21:36:12 WizeGuy`, sounds like it loaded successfully, please check "lsmod" to be sure Jan 12 21:36:14 --> milwatts (~luis@83.132.61.201) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:36:16 hey Jan 12 21:36:18 hmm, i dont understand why this network is not working Jan 12 21:36:27 ShastaMaroon, there might be a manual page option for it not to create its own directories and such Jan 12 21:36:28 <-- KifKroker_ (~Kif@pool-68-161-82-10.ny325.east.verizon.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 21:36:31 does anyone use gkrellm ? Jan 12 21:36:36 WizeGuy`, and check dmesg if you see eth0 showing up Jan 12 21:36:36 NeoLaptop, I have my own /pub/slackware-current...I don't need their /pub/linux/slackware/slackware-curernt/bla in my /pub/slackware-current..it's pointless Jan 12 21:36:41 milwatts, i use it once in a while, sure Jan 12 21:36:42 --> grey (~grey@Sudbury-HSE-ppp3983695.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:36:49 NeoLaptop, looked through that, thought I had the options...doesn't look like they have one without all that stuff. Jan 12 21:36:50 smbmount is for mounting a linux SMB filesystem... Jan 12 21:36:52 NeoLaptop: Thanks a lot mate, it worked. Thanks to you as well Polleke :)) Jan 12 21:36:52 <-- Tantalus has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 21:36:57 ShastaMaroon, oh, yeah, i know. there might be an option to have it not do that, not sure Jan 12 21:36:59 is FAT32 and SMB FS? Jan 12 21:37:04 an* Jan 12 21:37:10 WizeGuy`, no problem, just doing my job. do you understand WHY i had you do that though? Jan 12 21:37:32 NeoLaptop: No, but that was going to be my next question. :) What did I do now exactly? Jan 12 21:37:35 NeoLaptop, only an option so it doesn't put the site address...doesn't look like there is an override for the directory structure...it's either the entire path, or no path at all and everything goes into one directory...don't want either of those Jan 12 21:37:52 NeoLaptop, mine doesn't have the cpu tempo or the rpm fan Jan 12 21:38:03 --> zuurcool (~zuurcool@zuurcool.xs4all.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:38:31 thanks for the help, later Jan 12 21:38:37 <-- darkarcon2015 (~darkarcon@dsl-64-246-157-89.rtr0-cox.statetel.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 21:38:41 modprobe was saying it had linking errors, needed a module or something. usually the module loading system knows all the modules and their interdependencies. however, it sounded like you might've had some errors or discrepancies in that list, so depmod is a way to update that list. you use the System.map file generated by the linux kernel installation (in this case, the one done by slackware) Jan 12 21:38:52 to update the module interdependencies Jan 12 21:39:04 --> crazyhors (~dirk@d142-59-169-167.abhsia.telus.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:39:12 --> feross (~feross@techdept.boca.prosolutionsinc.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:39:14 I see, interesting indeed. Jan 12 21:39:30 Well, I guess I need a bit of reading on depmod. Again, thanks a lot for the help. :) Jan 12 21:39:42 WizeGuy`, hey, no problem Jan 12 21:40:21 neolaptop: you sure? seems to work on systems without System.map... Jan 12 21:40:41 and strace doesn't show any looks for it Jan 12 21:41:03 damn, all these Politicians swearin on TV.... Jan 12 21:41:41 --> sami (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:41:48 --- MacGuyver_ is now known as MacGuyver Jan 12 21:42:09 <-- WizeGuy` has quit ("back later") Jan 12 21:42:11 fred87, well in my experience, that's what works. oh well. Jan 12 21:42:11 <-- DarkTide has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 21:42:25 <-- foquinha has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 12 21:42:28 <-- ^Jenn has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 21:42:38 i do that because i see kernels run that command after they finish with "make modules_install" Jan 12 21:42:50 gg: enemy territory amd64 Jan 12 21:42:52 gah wrong box Jan 12 21:43:12 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:43:14 <-- nachox has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 21:43:17 <-- crazyhors has quit ("leaving") Jan 12 21:43:53 --> sagge^^ (1000@c83-248-210-194.bredband.comhem.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:44:10 <-- milwatts (~luis@83.132.61.201) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 21:44:57 <-- sagge^^ (1000@c83-248-210-194.bredband.comhem.se) has left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!") Jan 12 21:46:36 <-- duardo has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 12 21:46:42 <-- sami_ has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 12 21:46:49 --> fati (~fati@d14-69-72-214.try.wideopenwest.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:46:51 fred87: what server you on ? Jan 12 21:47:35 foureyes779: #ET Jan 12 21:47:44 <-- grey has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 21:48:05 * foureyes779 looks for phrag so he can shoot him in the butt Jan 12 21:48:13 <-- ang (~ang@mail.cognitronics.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 21:48:16 foureyes779 i aint yet :) Jan 12 21:48:29 foureyes779, i wouldn't try it, have you seen phrag's gun in his pics? Jan 12 21:48:30 just hoping i don't need to make 32-bit compat libs before i can play et Jan 12 21:48:42 foureyes779: server in topic Jan 12 21:48:58 Squall`: =P Jan 12 21:49:19 <-- cbpye has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 21:49:33 <-- sunbx has quit ("!") Jan 12 21:49:48 moment of truth: trying to install ut2004 in slack x86_64 :) Jan 12 21:49:48 <-- d_low has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 21:50:53 <-- ximpul has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 21:51:02 <-- sami__ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 21:51:15 heh Jan 12 21:51:25 --> d_low (~d_low@dlow-00000001.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:51:50 <-- dwolf has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 21:51:50 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:52:00 phrag, how long did ET take to compile on your machine? Jan 12 21:52:14 source? :D Jan 12 21:52:34 Don't you compile ET for Linux? Jan 12 21:52:46 Or is it a shipped binary, like in Windows? Jan 12 21:52:59 <-- pgas (~pgas@ip-92-250.first.gr) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 12 21:53:01 why would i compile, and why would i time and record it ? Jan 12 21:53:01 binary afaik Jan 12 21:53:09 --> slackd00_ (~bacardi@c-24-19-219-0.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:53:14 * fred87 will prob compile Jan 12 21:53:26 phrag, I thought it came source? Jan 12 21:53:34 nope Jan 12 21:53:39 And not record it..but have a general idea Jan 12 21:53:51 bah, who'd want to compile something that big when you can just get a binary? Jan 12 21:54:01 squall`: different arch Jan 12 21:54:02 ugh Jan 12 21:54:05 off to vector dynamics Jan 12 21:54:12 fred87, what, they only have x86's? Jan 12 21:54:24 think so Jan 12 21:55:53 That is a sin..only 1 arch Jan 12 21:56:08 * foureyes779 run's DSLinux on his XP box Jan 12 21:56:15 foureyes779, whats that? Jan 12 21:56:25 now does ut2004 work on slack64 :) Jan 12 21:56:36 afk :D Jan 12 21:56:42 --> ptlo (~senko@cmung3433.cmu.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:56:45 it's a version of linux that run's on top of Windows Jan 12 21:56:48 game if so fred Jan 12 21:57:09 or et Jan 12 21:57:11 phrag, you will be happy to know my gaming machine primarily runs Linux now Jan 12 21:57:38 pleased to hear it =) Jan 12 21:58:00 phrag: appears to work, just forgot modprobe nvsound Jan 12 21:58:00 It's not Slackware..but its Linux Jan 12 21:58:01 :/ Jan 12 21:58:13 I need to get sound working, then cedega installed Jan 12 21:58:33 fred87: which kernel are you using ? Jan 12 21:58:52 --> moshe (~chatzilla@ool-18bfee72.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 21:59:02 hello, Slackers Jan 12 21:59:02 Straterra: why not slack, out of interest Jan 12 21:59:14 phrag, trying a new distro Jan 12 21:59:19 And kinda shy on hard drive space Jan 12 21:59:20 does anyone know what module in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules to enable for Broadcom nic support? Jan 12 21:59:30 And hopefully get some more speed out of my lame gaming machine Jan 12 21:59:32 namely? Jan 12 21:59:37 phrag..gentoo.. :/ Jan 12 21:59:43 ewww Jan 12 21:59:49 gets you Jan 12 21:59:53 phrag: 2.6.9 Jan 12 22:00:02 OOh! Jan 12 22:00:09 any takers? Jan 12 22:00:16 oh yeah, gentoo will uber increase the speed.... when you're not compiling your kernel in the background Jan 12 22:00:17 ut2004 x86_64 on slack x86_64 is *A LOT* smoother than gentoo Jan 12 22:00:18 fred87: i am thinking about 2.4.28 -> 2.6.10 very soon Jan 12 22:00:45 slack's giving me around 1.6 x framerate at higher settings than gentoo :| Jan 12 22:00:47 Squall`, I compile kernels in Slackware all the time too..sooo Jan 12 22:01:02 sigh Jan 12 22:01:11 how am I supposed to get this nic working if I don't know what module to enable? Jan 12 22:01:26 moshe, google Jan 12 22:01:27 :P Jan 12 22:01:37 Straterra: gee I never thought of that. Jan 12 22:01:43 just kidding. I already tried that. Jan 12 22:02:01 <-- sami has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 22:02:03 --> grey (~grey@Sudbury-HSE-ppp3985021.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:02:20 --> sami (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:02:32 i just build 2.4.29-rc1 in time to go to kernel.org and see that rc2 was out Jan 12 22:02:34 *sigh* Jan 12 22:04:19 --> mmu_man (revol@ALyon-112-1-14-2.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:04:19 hmmm Jan 12 22:04:32 someone posted on linuxquestions that my nic worked perfectly. Jan 12 22:04:40 perhaps I configured the network incorrectly? Jan 12 22:05:03 moshe: what did you configure? Jan 12 22:05:15 I mean, setting up with netconfig Jan 12 22:05:55 I run netconfig, tell it to run dhcp, nothing happens. Jan 12 22:06:12 at home this worked with no problems. on my work machine, no workie. Jan 12 22:06:23 and I have to keep rebooting into Windows to go online, and that really urks me. Jan 12 22:07:12 <-- linnewbye has quit ("leaving") Jan 12 22:07:14 off to home I go, the to the LUG meeting Jan 12 22:07:30 <-- moshe has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041107]") Jan 12 22:08:43 --> radiohead (~man@80.80.160.51) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:08:44 later all Jan 12 22:08:46 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 22:08:48 --> octavious (100@pcp05921128pcs.sprgfd01.mi.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:09:15 #slackware echo Jan 12 22:09:50 <-- fuzzbawl has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 22:11:06 hm, this is crazy. 70F outside, sunny. and it's january Jan 12 22:11:37 ananke, same here :) but till the day Jan 12 22:11:50 yeah. two more days and it will be cold as hell Jan 12 22:12:06 are you joking ananke ? Jan 12 22:12:09 * Squall` looks outside to see Jan 12 22:12:22 here 10ºC :-\ Jan 12 22:12:39 which part u live?:) Jan 12 22:12:56 spain Jan 12 22:13:12 Squall` : i'm not Jan 12 22:13:18 icestorm, sorry i mean to ask ananke :) Jan 12 22:13:22 ok Jan 12 22:14:11 http://www.weather.com/weather/local/24060?lswe=24060&lwsa=WeatherLocalUndeclared Jan 12 22:14:30 --> dwolf (~unknown@dwolf.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:17:29 i just upgraded to 2.6.10 kernel and now xterm wont run, gives me error 14, errnum 21 Jan 12 22:20:50 <-- Xgates has quit ("Ping Timeout ( 0 Seconds )") Jan 12 22:22:56 <-- ryen has quit ("What would we find, if we were to look behind the border of the Universe?") Jan 12 22:25:41 --> Xgates (~Xgates@xgates.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:25:48 Just think if Google were run on Windows 2003 Server Edition: Every other week, they'd hold a press conference on how they'd have to take Google search offline for a few days while they formatted the harddrive and reinstalled... Jan 12 22:26:42 after upgrading to 2.6.10, xterm won't run Jan 12 22:26:51 gnome-terminal runs, but xterm gives me an error 14 Jan 12 22:27:23 Reason: spawn: open() failed on /dev/tty Jan 12 22:27:38 works for me Jan 12 22:27:49 well, that doesn't much help me :\ Jan 12 22:28:23 <-- crackjack has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 22:28:35 --> WizeGuy` (~wize@ti112220a080-0330.bb.online.no) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:28:46 --> StevenR (~foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:30:00 well, shouldn't be a kernel issue, but i don't know how to help you Jan 12 22:30:26 oct: shouldn't it be trying to use a pts and not a tty? Jan 12 22:30:35 --- WizeGuy` is now known as Wize` Jan 12 22:31:34 i don't know, any suggestions? Jan 12 22:32:01 oct: check this thread http://www.mhvlug.org:81/wws/arc/mhvlug/2004-12/msg00124.html Jan 12 22:32:18 --> RememberPO1 (~Pol@adsl-68-23-170-21.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:32:20 . Jan 12 22:32:36 basically says to make sure you don't have BSD Terminal emulation enabled under character devices Jan 12 22:35:11 <-- grey has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 22:35:16 --> routh (~routh@Kingston-HSE-ppp3993381.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:37:39 Hey guys, anyone familiar with a problem with the Xorg server on some older laptops (Clevo Model 660 to be exact) that requires that a 2 or 3 of the Xserver files need to be deleted in order to start? I found it aftermuch searching before, but I apprently lost the names of the files I need to delete... Jan 12 22:38:58 /tmp/.X0-lock ?:) Jan 12 22:38:59 <-- Polleke has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 22:40:28 lol funny, but not the answer - it's a couple of the libs - if I don't delele them after a fresh install on this laptop, the Xorg server freezes and locks the whole machine down, requiring a hard reboot... Jan 12 22:41:14 --> DarkTide (~nerd@dialup-4.156.105.107.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:41:55 i'm sure you could just disable some of them instead of deleting them by editing xorg.conf, but sorry, no idea which ones... try disabling glx etc, one by one Jan 12 22:42:21 also you could install sysrq & kill it whenever it "stalls" the system Jan 12 22:42:23 <-- octavious has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 12 22:42:25 --> Mellen (~tmh@195.135.216.1) has joined ##Slackware Jan 12 22:42:31 Heeelo Jan 12 22:42:37 <-- oneforall has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 22:42:54 You guys got any pointers on good news cache/proxy programs? Jan 12 22:43:07 sweet never mind I found it - it's libddc.a and libvbe.a Jan 12 22:43:27 here's the reference so you can see Jan 12 22:43:29 http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2003/05/msg00142.html Jan 12 22:45:18 It's something to do with Xorg calling the video bios on boot - it only happens on Clevo model 660's with Linux and FreeBSD Jan 12 22:45:32 --> ick (~legis@200.91.248.114) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:45:32 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@200.91.248.114 Jan 12 22:45:32 <-- nixor has kicked ick from ##slackware (banned: xuser - trolling) Jan 12 22:45:44 --- solsTiCe is now known as linuce Jan 12 22:46:05 <-- linuce has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 12 22:46:14 --> solsTiCe_ (~solsTiCe@d80-170-18-226.cust.tele2.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:46:15 hmmm, what does "trolling" mean? being a troll? Jan 12 22:46:24 --- solsTiCe_ is now known as solsTiCe Jan 12 22:46:39 Attitude problems, I guess. Jan 12 22:47:20 routh: i had that problem with the same video card.....all you need to do is use vesa Jan 12 22:47:38 <-- sami has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 12 22:47:38 --> grey (~grey@Sudbury-HSE-ppp3980428.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:49:15 slackd00_: I'll try it before I do the other method - but how do I switch X to VESA? Jan 12 22:49:19 <-- jidar (~jidar@cable-24-158-218-55.sli.la.charter.com) has left ##slackware Jan 12 22:49:41 <-- RememberPO1 has quit (Success) Jan 12 22:50:06 --> ginpa (~emailkjg@dhcp-103-2654-1.msns.sm.ptd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:50:25 just open the xorg.conf...or xfree86.conf or whatever...then goto the part about your video card and switch the driver to vesa Jan 12 22:50:28 <-- radiohead has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 22:50:31 --> maddler (~maddler@195.110.158.19) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:50:44 ok Jan 12 22:51:03 --> octavious (100@pcp05921128pcs.sprgfd01.mi.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:51:13 let me know if you need more help Jan 12 22:51:30 --> sami (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:52:05 ok, recompiled kernel w/o BSD emulation in character devices, still have the problem...xterm wont run Jan 12 22:52:44 --> oneforall (guru@216.123.245.148) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:54:08 --> mejdzor (~major@aaq194.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:54:47 octavious: is it a fresh slalckware install or are you using -current Jan 12 22:55:58 --> mjt_ (~ryen@83.72.184.157.ip.tele2adsl.dk) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:55:59 this was a slackware 10 install of cd, i just today upgraded kernel to 2.6.10 Jan 12 22:56:11 <-- mejdzor (~major@aaq194.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) has left ##slackware Jan 12 22:57:14 octavious: http://slackwiki.org/Udev Jan 12 22:57:42 slackd00_: It's already using the vesa driver - I'm afraid your fix doesn't work in this situation Jan 12 22:58:14 This laptop is a special case - it's a noname brand pos Jan 12 22:58:34 --> darkarcon2015 (~darkarcon@dsl-64-246-157-89.rtr0-cox.statetel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 22:58:35 that sucks Jan 12 22:58:36 hoy hoy! Jan 12 22:58:37 sorry Jan 12 22:58:53 how can i make a shell script log in as a different user? Jan 12 22:59:02 slackd00_: Hey no worries, I know the other method does work Jan 12 22:59:26 ok, cool Jan 12 23:00:26 XGizzmo: thanks, i've tried option 1 to no avail, i'll try the next options Jan 12 23:00:28 --> mortal_ (~mortal@adsl-81-128-59.mgm.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:00:49 would i use "chroot" ? Jan 12 23:00:52 does anyone know how to get to the menu of a dvd using mplayer? Jan 12 23:00:54 darkarcon2015: i dont know if you can but you can run a command as a different user Jan 12 23:01:11 you can use sudo bash or whatever shell Jan 12 23:01:24 <-- feross has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 23:01:28 su -c Jan 12 23:01:52 I'm trying to play a dvd using mplayer, but i think I hit the 'deleted scences' instead of the main movie Jan 12 23:01:52 okay, how can i run a script as a different user? Jan 12 23:01:58 oh Jan 12 23:02:11 sorry, i thought you said script, not command Jan 12 23:02:20 darkarcon2015 DarkTide Jan 12 23:02:40 darkarcon2015, its same , just supply the path to script Jan 12 23:02:54 --- mjt_ is now known as Ryen Jan 12 23:02:57 --> C-16 (~XXX@art1.dmat.fct.unl.pt) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:03:00 see, my problem is that i have an executable in my /root folder and i dont like having to "su" then "cd", then run the command Jan 12 23:03:17 i wanted to make a script to do it all and i would run it while im a normal user Jan 12 23:03:54 youll have to make a suid script Jan 12 23:04:02 darkarcon2015: man sudo Jan 12 23:04:04 --> fhobia (~fhobia@24-205-238-48.slo-cres.charterpipeline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:04:08 or sudo Jan 12 23:04:34 there is no man entry for sudo Jan 12 23:04:52 heck, sudo isnt a command for me haha Jan 12 23:06:28 darkarcon2015, you should put smthing like this in your /etc/sudoers Jan 12 23:06:29 --> n2iko (n2iko@ool-182c5a59.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:06:31 user ALL = (root) NOPASSWD: /path/to/script Jan 12 23:07:14 <-- dwolf has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 23:07:15 darkarcon2015: sudo-1.6.8p5-i486-1.tgz is the version from current Jan 12 23:07:21 install sudo first Jan 12 23:07:36 darkarcon2015, no, "no man entry for sudo" only means there's no manual page for it Jan 12 23:07:58 hey guys...did something happened to Pat again, because the changelog hasn't changed in awhile ? Jan 12 23:08:15 NeoLaptop: but there is a man page for it if it is installed Jan 12 23:08:35 hum Jan 12 23:08:43 no, i dont have the binary Jan 12 23:09:11 fhobia: i am sure he is taking it easy and maybe spending more time with the family Jan 12 23:09:23 XGizzmo: ok :) Jan 12 23:11:30 <-- DataStream_Lap has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 12 23:12:03 XGizzmo, no, not always. artsplayer comes with artsd, but has no manual page. Jan 12 23:12:44 NeoLaptop: i did not many every package has a man page only that sudo DID have one. Jan 12 23:12:57 <-- octavious has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 12 23:13:00 XGizzmo, i know, but that's not what you said lol :D Jan 12 23:14:03 --> Dario (1000@d150-142-117.home.cgocable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:14:07 hello my peeps Jan 12 23:15:31 i have a question. I installed a working silent bootsplash, but once the system is loaded and i'm at the command prompt, the silent splash is still up. I have to press F2. How could I make it go away after rc.M is complete? Jan 12 23:15:35 --> SKOFFING (~SKOFF@200-181-087-049.bsace705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:15:45 --> nikon_ (nikon@judecca.aculei.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:15:47 <-- nikon_ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 23:15:58 /server -m irc.brasnet.org Jan 12 23:16:00 eita Jan 12 23:16:25 <-- mortal_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 23:16:51 <-- darkarcon2015 has quit ("I'm out, later.") Jan 12 23:17:44 Dario: wrong channel for that question Jan 12 23:18:31 XGizzmo, not really. Because it's specific to slackware init scripts. So it's a little bit different. Jan 12 23:19:02 --> octavious (100@pcp05921128pcs.sprgfd01.mi.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:19:08 <-- SKOFFING has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 23:19:17 --> Ahil (~Achilles@213.240.224.47) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:19:45 XGizzmo: thanks for the Udev wiki link, step 2 worked for me, i appreciate your help :) Jan 12 23:20:20 octavious: thank the slackwiki folks. i just spam there site :) Jan 12 23:20:45 <-- Wize` has quit ("brb") Jan 12 23:20:47 <-- SystemX has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 23:20:53 --> sunbx (~awx@82.76.44.123) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:21:00 got the same problem. xf86EnableIOPorts: Failed to set IOPL for I/O Jan 12 23:21:03 x crashes Jan 12 23:21:03 :( Jan 12 23:21:56 --- MacGuyver is now known as MacGuyver_ Jan 12 23:21:58 <-- C-16 has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 23:22:04 xgizzmo, is slackwiki.org working for you? Jan 12 23:22:05 <-- Ryen has quit ("What would we find, if we were to look behind the border of the Universe?") Jan 12 23:22:13 --> C-16 (~XXX@art1.dmat.fct.unl.pt) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:22:15 --> meowwuff (~wufff@69.90.194.233) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:22:16 i'm not sure if dns changes have been reflected Jan 12 23:22:27 <-- Outpour has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 12 23:22:38 <-- octavious has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 23:22:41 <-- Sklet has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 12 23:23:08 fred87: yes it is but i could have i cached right now Jan 12 23:23:59 slackwiki.org has address 209.61.183.69 Jan 12 23:24:02 :) Jan 12 23:26:18 --> carlosm (~carlosm@201.130.163.252) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:26:35 --> Vayn0r (~Vayn0r@CPE0050047e7f32-CM0f2049994695.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:26:35 hi there, in amd64, does somebody knows if a 64bit app should be compiled with ONLY 64bits libs? or could it have mixed 32 and 64 libs? Jan 12 23:27:23 (of course if I know that the 32bits are working ok) Jan 12 23:27:26 <-- Frost^ has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 12 23:27:55 --> Outpour (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:28:12 fred87: is your changelog rss feed broken? Jan 12 23:29:16 stevenr, yah Jan 12 23:29:20 :( Jan 12 23:29:22 timeout, takes too long to fetch txt Jan 12 23:29:24 (too big) Jan 12 23:29:29 fred87: is it fixable? Jan 12 23:29:55 wontfix because: (1) don't have time (2) it takes a lot of resources on my server (3) pat broke the format with his illness messages Jan 12 23:30:05 and (4) having other problems with my server Jan 12 23:30:18 carlosm: 64-bit apps will refuse to link with 32bit libs Jan 12 23:30:39 fred87: ok :( Jan 12 23:30:40 fred87: thanks Jan 12 23:31:00 carlosm: btw end of next week or so i should have isos for a amd64 port of slack :) Jan 12 23:31:05 feel like being a guinea pig? Jan 12 23:31:14 really???? :| Jan 12 23:31:19 yah Jan 12 23:31:23 I love you man!!! :D Jan 12 23:31:26 using it now :P Jan 12 23:31:33 only thing is there's no installer yet :) Jan 12 23:31:38 cool Jan 12 23:31:48 and i won't do gnomee Jan 12 23:31:54 hmm.. then I will stop porting my apps :) hehe Jan 12 23:32:07 how are you porting? Jan 12 23:32:14 I can continue my work now Jan 12 23:32:14 march=athlon64 doesn't do it... Jan 12 23:32:25 I have a month trying to cross compile Jan 12 23:32:30 ah :P Jan 12 23:32:38 --> poolio (~poolio@pcp279080pcs.owngsm01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:32:47 but glibc allways stop with an error at configure Jan 12 23:33:04 any way :) it doesnt matter now Jan 12 23:33:11 mini-porting-howto: make cross compilers, cross-compile kernel, reboot, cross-compile toolchain and glibc, reboot, compilile native kernel, reboot, compile native toolchain, compile packs Jan 12 23:33:16 so unofficially, gnome is kicked out of slack ? Jan 12 23:33:27 fhobia, pat seems to be going that way Jan 12 23:33:39 eg abiword slackbuild now has --without-gnome Jan 12 23:33:39 speaking of pat they're making a pat 2 Jan 12 23:33:42 that's gonna rule Jan 12 23:34:02 pat.clone(); Jan 12 23:34:03 fred87: then the only big desktop manager will be kde? Jan 12 23:34:04 cool they are cloning pat, now we will get 2x the updates Jan 12 23:34:06 fhobia but reason for me not including it in my x86_64 port is i just cba Jan 12 23:34:09 carlosm: yah Jan 12 23:34:10 i still have that problem. Jan 12 23:34:11 --> Pechorin (~cabrilo@adsl-66-139-120-80.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:34:17 xf86EnableIOPorts: Failed to set IOPL for I/O Jan 12 23:34:19 (1) i prefer kde (2) gnome build system is hosed Jan 12 23:34:36 gnome is too time consuming for me to consider it worthwhile Jan 12 23:34:44 in the future, do you think gnome might get its act together and perhaps, it may come back ? Jan 12 23:34:45 do i really have to reinstall linux to make X work ? Jan 12 23:34:45 :( Jan 12 23:34:51 :) it doesnt matter ...i dont use neither of both Jan 12 23:34:55 though obviously if someone makes packages for x86_64, i'll try them and include if they work Jan 12 23:35:01 sunbx, i really doubt it Jan 12 23:35:03 i prefer e Jan 12 23:35:18 reinstall linux? Jan 12 23:35:19 on old systems, fluxbox Jan 12 23:35:24 fluxbox ownz =] Jan 12 23:35:26 second choice to KDE on new systems is xfce Jan 12 23:35:33 what is up with this Jan 12 23:35:34 fluxbox sucks Jan 12 23:35:38 squall: you suck Jan 12 23:35:40 * poolio kicks Squall` Jan 12 23:35:43 squall : :) Jan 12 23:35:48 Fluxbox > poolio > * Jan 12 23:35:50 kde / gnome both suck Jan 12 23:35:56 if you want pretty gui's stick with windows Jan 12 23:36:03 <-- Xgates has quit ("Ping Timeout ( 0 Seconds )") Jan 12 23:36:03 fred87: try to convince path to include e16 with imlib2 and evas Jan 12 23:36:06 kde/gnome are alternative choices Jan 12 23:36:10 ya Jan 12 23:36:10 evas? Jan 12 23:36:16 :) the libs are stable and e16 rocks Jan 12 23:36:30 anybody like fvwm ? :-) Jan 12 23:36:35 yes Jan 12 23:36:40 not especially, but it is nice Jan 12 23:36:41 Squall`: you would Jan 12 23:36:41 btw does anyone here actually use abiword? Jan 12 23:36:46 --> deez (~deez@ip68-98-179-238.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:36:46 http://enlightenment.org/pages/evas.html Jan 12 23:36:49 fred87, yes Jan 12 23:36:50 and configurable, but I am too lazy to edit all those configs :P Jan 12 23:36:55 * mmu_man sticks to BeOS on the desktop Jan 12 23:36:55 no, i quit because its hard to print with it Jan 12 23:36:57 Squall`: you'd like Final Fantasy 8 but not 7 Jan 12 23:37:02 Jan 12 23:37:04 * fred87 loves 7 :) Jan 12 23:37:06 did i ever say that? Jan 12 23:37:08 hah Jan 12 23:37:15 fred87" ff7? Jan 12 23:37:16 squall`, d'oh :| Jan 12 23:37:16 i like 8 better than 7 Jan 12 23:37:19 meowwuff yah Jan 12 23:37:20 but fluxbox still rules Jan 12 23:37:23 Squall`: im kidding arouind Jan 12 23:37:32 fred87: haha, try ff 10 Jan 12 23:37:33 though 3 is also cool Jan 12 23:37:39 fluxbox have anti-alias text ? Jan 12 23:37:41 fred87: that story is really great.. imho Jan 12 23:37:42 but for the record, 9 > 4 > 8 > 10 > 6 > 7 Jan 12 23:37:42 --- deez is now known as W|GG-Laptop Jan 12 23:37:45 3 rocked Jan 12 23:37:54 * fred87 admits he also liked the movie Jan 12 23:37:57 3 is great Jan 12 23:37:58 three was overrated as hell Jan 12 23:37:58 yes it did Jan 12 23:38:01 naw Jan 12 23:38:06 no 3 was great Jan 12 23:38:13 need to find snes emulator again Jan 12 23:38:16 fuck this ff1 was the best Jan 12 23:38:16 but 12 is gonna own! Jan 12 23:38:16 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to W|GG-Laptop Jan 12 23:38:17 fred87: btw, will slack64 include 32bits libs? (I mean in a separate lib directory) Jan 12 23:38:22 ff1 was sweeeeeeet too Jan 12 23:38:25 --- W|GG-Laptop has changed the topic to: Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support Channel - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC Jan 12 23:38:30 to could compile those apps doesnt support 64bits Jan 12 23:38:32 --- ChanServ removes channel operator status from W|GG-Laptop Jan 12 23:38:34 hehe i remember getting them into adults Jan 12 23:38:35 i'd definitely say 4 and 9 are the best Jan 12 23:38:50 squa: you are out of control, 9? Jan 12 23:38:57 9 was awesome Jan 12 23:39:02 i barely even noticed 9 while i was playing it Jan 12 23:39:12 hehe Jan 12 23:39:15 9 was lame Jan 12 23:39:18 except that jump rope game Jan 12 23:39:22 it was highly addictive Jan 12 23:39:25 meowwuff, why do you say that? Jan 12 23:39:34 fsck chocobos Jan 12 23:39:34 i just didn't follow it Jan 12 23:39:37 a dude with a tail? Jan 12 23:39:41 and the side quests were annoying Jan 12 23:39:51 finding those treasures sucked ass i did it, but it sucked ass Jan 12 23:39:51 heh Jan 12 23:40:00 treasures with the chocobos i mean Jan 12 23:40:04 fred87: btw, will slack64 include 32bits libs? (I mean in a separate lib directory) Jan 12 23:40:06 carlosm: yah :) i want to play SoF2 :P Jan 12 23:40:10 oo sorry hehe Jan 12 23:40:14 sof2? Jan 12 23:40:17 Secret of Evermore? Jan 12 23:40:18 9 was the greastest game in the series, bite me Jan 12 23:40:27 Squall` Jan 12 23:40:28 soldier of fortune Jan 12 23:40:28 since when did evermore start with f... Jan 12 23:40:30 Squall`: 12 is gonna be great Jan 12 23:40:32 haha Jan 12 23:40:34 i dunno Jan 12 23:40:39 some peeps prenounce is weird :P Jan 12 23:40:48 there's a strong and distinct F sound in evermore ;P Jan 12 23:40:50 Ephhheerr more Jan 12 23:40:51 :) Jan 12 23:41:02 uh, you're weird bro\ Jan 12 23:41:08 yup :) Jan 12 23:41:11 hah Jan 12 23:41:13 maybe just a little Jan 12 23:41:19 it still starts with e Jan 12 23:41:25 depends how you look at it Jan 12 23:41:32 like e16 Jan 12 23:41:32 hehe Jan 12 23:41:33 some say a cup is half full others say half empty Jan 12 23:41:34 :) Jan 12 23:41:41 yeah, if you look at it when drunk, it may look different Jan 12 23:41:43 some say e, some say f Jan 12 23:41:44 hehe Jan 12 23:41:45 --> Xgates (~Xgates@xgates.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:41:54 if i have a registered domain, and using my ISPs nameservers it is forwarded to my server how can I set up a mail server for the domain? would it just be sendmail? Jan 12 23:41:55 www.dictionary.com Jan 12 23:42:09 heh Jan 12 23:42:22 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:42:26 whoa...the new jumpdrives come with linux drivers on the thumbdrive itself Jan 12 23:42:33 Outpour: it would go to wherever the mx record pointed Jan 12 23:42:39 Outpour: if you wanna use sendmail, but sendmail is setup as a local delivery agent by default, go grab postfix or qmail and read the howto Jan 12 23:42:46 w|GG-Laptop: including the secret disk thingy? Jan 12 23:42:50 yeah Jan 12 23:42:52 that too Jan 12 23:42:54 wait Jan 12 23:42:59 lemme doublecheck that Jan 12 23:43:05 oh well Jan 12 23:43:11 time to reboot Jan 12 23:43:11 it sure does Jan 12 23:43:17 <-- meowwuff has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 23:43:18 dayam Jan 12 23:43:21 i'm impressed Jan 12 23:43:22 --> rebewt_ (~rebewt@h72n1c1o1120.bredband.skanova.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:43:30 w|gg, can you mail me a copy? Jan 12 23:43:41 yeah...msg me your email Jan 12 23:43:42 + are you pseudonym for unixfool ? Jan 12 23:43:47 yeah Jan 12 23:43:47 mail@fredemmott.co.uk Jan 12 23:43:50 k Jan 12 23:43:51 you want me to mail sandman? Jan 12 23:43:56 pingtimeout: mx record on my ips side? Jan 12 23:44:04 he already /msg'd me...thanks though Jan 12 23:44:05 <-- ptlo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 23:44:19 <-- ShastaMaroon has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 23:44:36 pingtimeout: once sendmail/qmail was configured, mail for the domain would go wherever the mx record for the domain pointed Jan 12 23:45:53 <-- rebewt has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 12 23:46:01 <-- solsTiCe has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 23:47:53 fred87, its on the way Jan 12 23:48:03 <-- carlosm (~carlosm@201.130.163.252) has left ##slackware Jan 12 23:48:09 i zipped it up Jan 12 23:48:18 --> r00tsh3ll (1000@201.11.161.238) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:48:20 --> octavious (100@pcp05921128pcs.sprgfd01.mi.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:48:27 damn gmail wouldn't let me send out a .zip file so i changed the extension to .piz Jan 12 23:48:34 just reverse the extension Jan 12 23:48:40 tar.gz :| Jan 12 23:48:41 :) Jan 12 23:48:43 thanks Jan 12 23:48:55 * W|GG-Laptop is in windows atm Jan 12 23:49:04 <-- Pechorin has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 23:49:13 <-- seemawn has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 12 23:49:28 np Jan 12 23:49:29 --> Analyzer (~Analyzer@ts3-a165.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:50:05 <-- Analyzer has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 23:51:07 * fred87 wonders how long it will take to make x86_64 installer... Jan 12 23:52:17 --> APunker (123213@CBL217-132-114-165.bb.netvision.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:52:19 Hello! Anyone aware of an internet caffe Linux distribution? Or maybe anyone here can recommand me on how to operate an internet caffe with linux. In Windows I have a program. But I can't find one for Linux. Jan 12 23:52:36 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 12 23:52:57 <-- Squall` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 12 23:53:14 --> neoslak (~crb@205.240.139.203) has joined ##Slackware Jan 12 23:53:42 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Ottawa-ppp324664.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:54:12 --> noDLL (~nodll4me@201.130.163.252) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:54:59 can anyone help me out with this (error in nvidia-installer) http://pastebin.msunix.org/view.php?id=1664 Jan 12 23:56:13 octavious: have you installed mesa before? (NVidia and mesa doesnt like eachother) Jan 12 23:56:39 yeah i think so, how can get them to play nice? Jan 12 23:57:15 APunker, ??? internet cafe distribution? Jan 12 23:57:37 use the proprietor's installed OS Jan 12 23:57:52 Also, riva and nvidia don't like each other Jan 12 23:58:01 <-- Dario has quit ("Get the Yeyo") Jan 12 23:58:13 you're essentially renting a machine by the hour, but it isn't yours, so i wouldn't advise messing with someone else's machine Jan 12 23:58:18 There is a kiosk proggie for KDE. Thanks! Jan 12 23:58:22 <-- APunker has quit () Jan 12 23:58:37 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 12 23:58:46 <-- SoulSurvivor has quit (Client Quit) Jan 12 23:59:40 * W|GG-Laptop wondered what the hell his question had to do with slackware Jan 13 00:00:27 unixfool, absolutely nothing Jan 13 00:01:09 just needed a second opinion...lol Jan 13 00:01:14 --> SolemnTree (~brad@66-189-252-64.rcp1.ubr1.hst.ne.nebi.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:01:22 I will say this though.. Jan 13 00:01:33 My P3 1ghz compiles hella faster than my Celeron 333 Jan 13 00:01:40 it should be Jan 13 00:01:41 lol Jan 13 00:01:43 ... Jan 13 00:01:47 haha imagine that Jan 13 00:01:57 :P Jan 13 00:02:00 :) Jan 13 00:02:15 Hey i have a question... My put keeps locking up.. and it acts like it's reading from the hard drive.. but there's no reason for it to be... Every once an a while i've gotten a Reiserfs: Panic message.. Jan 13 00:02:25 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 00:02:26 <-- ejlozon has quit ("BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") Jan 13 00:02:38 Any ideas?.. I thougth it was the hard drive.. so i switched.. and it locked up again when i was at work.. Jan 13 00:02:40 heh Jan 13 00:02:59 its trying to tell you that you should've used ext3 :oP Jan 13 00:03:08 ...... Jan 13 00:03:15 resierfs is quicker! Jan 13 00:03:16 SolemnTree: did you try to fsck it? Jan 13 00:03:23 lots of people on their periods today Jan 13 00:03:31 thr1ce, not for SolemnTree ... lol Jan 13 00:03:36 hehe Jan 13 00:03:58 it is quicker, instead of slowing down his work, it just crashes Jan 13 00:04:09 Well, i ran reiserfsck and it said everything was okay.. Jan 13 00:04:10 hah Jan 13 00:04:25 it lies Jan 13 00:04:26 ! Jan 13 00:04:28 Sachiel, that doesn't make sense, what you just said Jan 13 00:04:42 <-- Soulsssss has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 00:04:46 if it crashes, he ain't gettin no work done Jan 13 00:05:06 yes but it gets right to the point instead of just slowing down Jan 13 00:05:08 * Mellen jumps around: "Get it off me! Get it off me damnit!" Jan 13 00:05:15 same shit Jan 13 00:05:17 different stink Jan 13 00:05:29 what aroma of shit would you prefer? Jan 13 00:05:30 what are the liscence now for the 500 open sourced IBM patents? Jan 13 00:05:42 ok, i'll have to get used to add some j/k after every stupid thing i say Jan 13 00:06:00 hehe...that should work :oP Jan 13 00:06:15 <-- fhobia has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 00:06:20 when setting up qmail i get a bunch of errors when i run 'make setup check' Jan 13 00:10:36 lol gmails biiiiiiig hole!! :| Jan 13 00:11:04 does anyone know a quick way of comapring several directory listings for contents differences? I want to compare filenames only. Jan 13 00:11:15 s/comapring/comparing Jan 13 00:11:40 like as in /var/log/packages? Jan 13 00:12:15 heh Jan 13 00:12:18 Vayn0r: no, like several similar directories with similar files but one or two different filenames Jan 13 00:12:38 <-- SlackFart has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 00:13:29 some combo of ls -l > directories.txt, and diff the two files Jan 13 00:13:49 <-- Sachiel has quit ("chau") Jan 13 00:13:53 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:14:08 i did that with /var/log/packages with ls -l /var/log/packages | cut -b 49- Jan 13 00:16:07 --> ZeroCarontE (a@200.138.51.176) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:17:00 hi... finally i got my speedtouch usb working on slack 10... it connects and when i get to http://200.200.200.200 for an example, it works... but when i use www.google.com, it says the dns could not be found... how can i solve that? Jan 13 00:17:18 zer0python ZeroCarontE Jan 13 00:17:29 ZeroCarontE, with a valid /etc/resolv.conf Jan 13 00:17:35 ZeroCarontE, add your dns servers ip addresses in /etc/resolv.conf Jan 13 00:18:02 tnx, ill try that Jan 13 00:18:05 --> WizeGuy (wize@wizeguy.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:18:13 <-- ZeroCarontE has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 00:20:22 I'm trying to figure out how to make my https pages require a certificate but the server shouldn't send the certificate, the cert should be manually installed. Does anyone know how to do this or where I can find some clear documentation? Jan 13 00:22:38 --> ph0enix (~phoenix@201-003-141-157.nhoce7005.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:24:40 --> meowwuff (~mreith@69.90.194.233) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:24:58 --> inflex (~PLD@dsl-171.156.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:25:32 hehe thats not a gmail hole... is a bug :) make me remember some C homeworks bugs when working with strings Jan 13 00:25:53 --> ejlozon (~ejlozon@c-24-127-70-234.we.client2.attbi.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:26:10 <-- mykilx has quit ("prepare for offblast 5, 4, 3, 1") Jan 13 00:27:34 hey, I got my Altair 8800.. it's in semi kit-form :) Jan 13 00:27:50 Nice Legendre Jan 13 00:28:12 somebody made a new mobo for it.. it has 16 slots. Jan 13 00:28:18 or so it seems. Jan 13 00:28:22 16 slots?! Jan 13 00:28:35 Legendre: Ummm. Altair? Jan 13 00:28:47 yeah.. early electric computer. Jan 13 00:28:48 Legendre: as in antique? Jan 13 00:28:57 hey, I resent that! Jan 13 00:28:58 Legendre: So your going to load netbsd on it? Jan 13 00:29:01 I'm older than this thing. Jan 13 00:29:09 can I clear recent commands, so when I push up, nothing appears in a new eterm? Jan 13 00:29:10 Legendre: people age differently than computers. Jan 13 00:29:14 Legendre, what speed CPU? Jan 13 00:29:24 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 00:29:26 not sure.. Jan 13 00:29:41 the 8080 board is pulled out (2Mhz 8080) Jan 13 00:29:47 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:29:48 it has a Z80 board in it. Jan 13 00:29:51 --> gTool-Kit (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:29:55 assuming it's 2-4Mhz. Jan 13 00:30:19 --> toshin (~toshin@nat.w-s.pl) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:30:40 apparently it was running CP/M Jan 13 00:30:45 <-- fati has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 00:31:11 has some hand-built wirewapped boards in it, not sure what they are for. Jan 13 00:31:34 Legendre: Neat. But its not booting atm? Jan 13 00:31:41 has an ICE setup for intel 8000 series uC development. Jan 13 00:31:52 Kyle_S - it's not doing anything. I don't dare put power to it. Jan 13 00:31:53 thr1ce: try removing .bash_history Jan 13 00:31:55 * Kyle_S kindof misses the days when you could just build your own boards... he compleetly missed them. Jan 13 00:32:00 Legendre: heh. why not? Jan 13 00:32:04 <-- C-16 has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 00:32:07 ~/.bash_history Jan 13 00:32:09 --> ^Jenn (~jenn@jenn-0000002.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:32:33 too many unknowns. I need to strip it all down, verify the power supply, reinstall the control/display board (65 wires).. Jan 13 00:32:51 and get it going, one chunk at a time. Jan 13 00:33:11 also has serial/parallel IO boards and a dual floppy controler, that I assume is for the dual-floppy I got with it. Jan 13 00:33:27 the dual floppy is hand-built from old intel conponets & chassis of that era. Jan 13 00:33:48 160K 8" I assume Jan 13 00:34:09 rm -rf ~/.bash_history? Jan 13 00:34:22 --> ph0enix- (~phoenix@201-003-141-157.nhoce7005.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:34:23 that will kill your bash command history Jan 13 00:34:29 why use -rf? Jan 13 00:34:30 heh Jan 13 00:34:46 rf is dangerous Jan 13 00:34:48 he Jan 13 00:34:54 gets the job done Jan 13 00:34:59 ya it does Jan 13 00:35:03 its a force of habit Jan 13 00:35:05 its kinda bad though Jan 13 00:35:05 Kyle_S - here is the real kicker.. it came with a little board labeled 'Phoneme Synthesizer'.. and it's got a Votrax SC-01 chip on it :)) Jan 13 00:35:06 ehhe Jan 13 00:35:09 that's an idiotic habit Jan 13 00:35:20 <-- pingtimeout has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 00:35:24 squall: haha you could have worded it differently Jan 13 00:35:27 IT CAN TALK!!! lol Jan 13 00:35:37 squall: it's true though its really dangerous Jan 13 00:35:56 no, i couldn't have Jan 13 00:36:04 it's a really stupid habit Jan 13 00:36:13 see, you just worded that differently. Jan 13 00:36:23 bingo :) Jan 13 00:36:27 it is a dumb habit Jan 13 00:36:40 Yes! Jan 13 00:36:51 but he didn't have to be harsh Jan 13 00:36:53 and besides Jan 13 00:36:56 I don't do it :P Jan 13 00:37:10 i always create an i alais for rm Jan 13 00:37:13 cause im lazy Jan 13 00:37:14 and stupid Jan 13 00:37:16 and make mistakes Jan 13 00:37:18 yes Jan 13 00:37:23 like rm -rf /dev/* && init 76 Jan 13 00:37:26 - 7 Jan 13 00:37:29 --> mheath (~Michael@c-67-161-213-34.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:37:30 hm...compile 2.6.10, or wait for 11? Jan 13 00:37:57 --> Lurkan (~Lurkan@201.135.159.181) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:38:01 --> SlackFart (~el_fart0@dc51468581.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:39:02 --> khronus (~roun@82-33-9-234.cable.ubr14.newt.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:39:07 hi all Jan 13 00:39:10 good evening Jan 13 00:39:21 im speaking to you from a ...erguugrrg windows box Jan 13 00:39:21 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:39:27 pardon my french Jan 13 00:39:38 khronus, i'm sorry to hear that Jan 13 00:39:49 i have an error when trying to start x as a user i get Jan 13 00:39:52 xauth: timeout in locking authority file /home/khronus/.Xauthority Jan 13 00:40:04 i need slack back! Jan 13 00:40:36 can any1 offer some advice, i've googled it Jan 13 00:40:49 Delete .Xauthority? Jan 13 00:40:51 and i get alot of results but i cant seem to locate exactly how to remedy the situation Jan 13 00:40:55 Worked before for me Jan 13 00:40:55 i've tried Jan 13 00:41:00 oh Jan 13 00:41:02 where is it located Jan 13 00:41:08 in /home/khronus Jan 13 00:41:13 /home/khronus Jan 13 00:41:17 i did that but i didn't work Jan 13 00:41:25 *it Jan 13 00:41:28 hmmm Jan 13 00:41:29 <-- boerst has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 13 00:41:46 i shall have to attempt it again though as several peeps have suggested it Jan 13 00:41:49 bbiab Jan 13 00:41:51 Legendre: I was on the phone.... did you say that altair had a voice synth board in it? Jan 13 00:41:58 ty Jan 13 00:42:25 Kyle_S - no, it's an external device.. votrax SC-01 based. Jan 13 00:42:27 <-- Yamabushi has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 00:42:33 Kyle_S - assume it's a serial interface. Jan 13 00:42:47 Legendre: Ummm, a cricket box? Jan 13 00:42:58 might just be bit-banging ttl.. can probably hook that to a parallel port. Jan 13 00:43:00 cricket? Jan 13 00:43:18 why does that sound familiar.. Jan 13 00:43:23 Apple II? Jan 13 00:43:27 Legendre: you used to be able to get a box that connected to the serial port of comodores, called a cricket box. Jan 13 00:43:31 <-- skubee has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 00:43:39 You'd dump text through some program into it, and it would "speak" Jan 13 00:43:55 --> skubee (1000@c-24-21-137-201.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:44:03 ok, yeah.. I recall those. Jan 13 00:44:13 I had a thing for my VIC-20 called a 'speak-easy' Jan 13 00:44:20 also votrax sc-01 based Jan 13 00:44:41 Legendre: in my friends garage there is a vic-20 board for speach to text. Jan 13 00:44:48 It requires that you train it and everything :) Jan 13 00:44:56 speech TO text?!?! Jan 13 00:44:59 for VIC? Jan 13 00:45:15 Legendre: Yup. Jan 13 00:45:25 that's freaking nuts! Jan 13 00:45:27 Legendre: it was for a home automation system. Jan 13 00:45:36 Legendre: It worked VERY poorly, and required alot of training. Jan 13 00:45:46 I need to find an Altair mailing list.. Jan 13 00:45:52 yeah, I can imagine.. Jan 13 00:46:06 CPU power was so limited.. as were DSP chips. Jan 13 00:46:42 must have all been in hardware, unless it assumed you had one of those giant ram-expansions for the VIC. Jan 13 00:46:47 back Jan 13 00:46:51 I had a 24K expansion for mine. Jan 13 00:46:53 im afraid it didn't work Jan 13 00:47:02 that thing was freaking EXPENSIVE. Jan 13 00:47:08 Legendre: I think it was all done in hardware. Jan 13 00:47:27 <-- HeatHawk has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 00:47:42 Legendre: of course think about it, nowdays a pic-micro the size of a pencil eraser has more ram and is faster than the vic ;) Jan 13 00:47:49 heh.. Jan 13 00:48:01 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 00:48:05 well, most of the PIC stuff doesn't have anything like 3K of ram.. but I get the point. Jan 13 00:48:28 the PICs I've worked with all had like 100 or 200 bytes. Jan 13 00:48:38 Legendre: Ohh yea.... but you can map more mem to them right? Jan 13 00:48:52 --> JiMMy-JaKAzz (~JiMMy-JaK@HSE-Montreal-ppp3474474.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:48:53 hm.. yeah, serially I think.. Jan 13 00:48:53 hi Jan 13 00:48:54 * Kyle_S hasn't dealt much at all with mciros, just played with his z8encore board. Jan 13 00:49:13 Kyle_S - I built one of those 'noPPP' things that hooks to the parallel port. Jan 13 00:49:19 --> Excentric (~Excentric@62.114.166.86) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:49:27 anyone tried vector linux? Jan 13 00:49:29 it will program the PIC 16F84 stuff. Jan 13 00:49:44 ..the ones with flash rom ;) Jan 13 00:49:49 Legendre: noPPP? was it a hard-coded ppp "device" Jan 13 00:49:50 ? Jan 13 00:49:56 Oooh! Jan 13 00:50:05 no.. it stands for 'No Parts Pic Programmer' Jan 13 00:50:16 --> felipe (~felipe@200-103-129-062.ctame7044.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:50:16 it's a little deal that will let you program PICS. Jan 13 00:50:19 So you can smack it on the lpt and just buy the "cheap" flash rom pics? Jan 13 00:50:21 Hi... I am trying to setup idesk-0.6.1 but it's giving me a 'Segmentation fault'. Any one know what it might be? Jan 13 00:50:22 NICE! Jan 13 00:50:26 how to install slackware 10 from bootdisks ? Jan 13 00:50:27 Legendre: how hard was it? Jan 13 00:50:27 yes, exactly. Jan 13 00:50:32 shall i make 3 disks ? Jan 13 00:50:33 not hard.. took 2 hours. Jan 13 00:50:40 bare.i , Install1 , Install2 ? Jan 13 00:50:45 it has like.. no parts.. Jan 13 00:50:48 Legendre: Do I even need to say it: link me. Jan 13 00:50:51 ;) Jan 13 00:50:53 just a few resistors, some regs etc. Jan 13 00:50:59 one sec. Been years.. Jan 13 00:51:03 hehe ok. Jan 13 00:51:09 straterra ? Jan 13 00:51:17 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:51:27 --> okmeufilho (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:51:34 straterra wb Jan 13 00:51:38 http://www.covingtoninnovations.com/noppp/ Jan 13 00:51:45 question... since I am recieving dhcp addy from isp, connecting via pppoe(adsl start). Every interval my ip changes which causes some services to be blocked. Without having to go static are there ways to work around this? Jan 13 00:51:51 site is updated :) Jan 13 00:51:52 TY Jan 13 00:51:54 --> boerst (~boerst@pD956321F.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:51:56 strat Jan 13 00:52:01 there was more to the error Jan 13 00:52:02 <-- felipe has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 00:52:07 <-- ph0enix has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 00:52:16 deleteing .xauthority didn't work but Jan 13 00:52:24 ' could not create lock file in TX0-lock' Jan 13 00:52:25 <-- SolemnTree has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 00:52:28 is also in the error Jan 13 00:53:04 --- Caveman is now known as Caveman2 Jan 13 00:53:57 Kyle_S - you get that linky? Jan 13 00:54:21 Legendre: Thanks. BTW I'm looking on the official Pic website, your right about the mem on these things. A few of these have 384 bytes. Jan 13 00:54:22 this jumpdrive is badass Jan 13 00:54:24 * Kyle_S nods Jan 13 00:54:37 Legendre: Yup I got the link! Jan 13 00:54:40 W|GG-Laptop, what kind? Jan 13 00:54:41 yeah, that's what I recall. Jan 13 00:54:44 so, i got me a new truck today. Jan 13 00:54:50 Nice acidkill Jan 13 00:54:51 <-- skubee has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 00:54:56 lexar jumpdrive 1gb Jan 13 00:54:56 I haven't tried the noPPP linux stuff yet, but the DOS stuff was fine. Jan 13 00:54:59 giFT-FastTrack is NOT connecting... Jan 13 00:54:59 what kind? Jan 13 00:55:02 1999 Ford Ranger extended cab 4x2. Jan 13 00:55:05 anybody here having the same problem? Jan 13 00:55:07 it even has encryption software Jan 13 00:55:07 1GB?! Jan 13 00:55:11 How much did you pay for it?! Jan 13 00:55:13 cool Jan 13 00:55:15 with....dun-dun-dun.....23,360 miles. Jan 13 00:55:18 for linux, windows, and mac Jan 13 00:55:26 W|GG-Laptop, the lexar 256 I was looking at had that too..for like $30 Jan 13 00:55:47 i needed one quickly so i bought it at staples down the street for $100 Jan 13 00:55:52 Straterra, i saw those today Jan 13 00:55:54 <-- Shuren has quit ("In silence we still talk") Jan 13 00:56:02 Ah Jan 13 00:56:04 the one i lost was 256mb Jan 13 00:56:08 You lost one? Jan 13 00:56:09 Damn Jan 13 00:56:11 yep Jan 13 00:56:21 it had alot of personal data on it too Jan 13 00:56:21 That sucks Jan 13 00:56:24 I wish I had one.. Jan 13 00:56:32 so i spent last night changing all my passwords Jan 13 00:56:38 LoL Jan 13 00:56:45 You store your PW's on jumpdrives? Jan 13 00:56:50 it had work shit on there Jan 13 00:56:55 Aaaaah Jan 13 00:56:57 Straterra, yep Jan 13 00:56:59 Do they know you lost it? Jan 13 00:57:03 nope Jan 13 00:57:06 hehehe. Jan 13 00:57:08 i aint offering that info either Jan 13 00:57:12 LoL Jan 13 00:57:29 "Someone broke into our systems using unixfool's passwords!" Jan 13 00:57:34 'its the new year. i say we change passwords on all our servers.' Jan 13 00:57:49 W|GG-Laptop: maybe it will turn up in the wash. Jan 13 00:57:57 --> crackjack (1000@ip5452b530.speed.planet.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 00:58:00 i usually used pgp to encrypt the data on it, but started getting lazy by extracting the files onto the usb drive Jan 13 00:58:14 XGizzmo, that's what my wife said Jan 13 00:58:15 lol Jan 13 00:58:25 she said that it'll turn up when i buy a new one Jan 13 00:59:01 keep the reciept. Jan 13 00:59:22 and write it off on next years taxes too. ;-) Jan 13 00:59:55 --- nixor removes ban on *!*@200.91.248.114 Jan 13 01:00:12 hehe Jan 13 01:00:19 my father does taxes and real estate, so we go out to lunch or dinner, and hes like 'hey, i can write it off, we DID talk about the house...' Jan 13 01:00:43 --- Caveman2 is now known as Caveman Jan 13 01:01:01 acidkill: cheap bastard? Jan 13 01:01:11 <-- Fishboy has quit () Jan 13 01:02:53 <-- okmeufilho has quit ("Fui embora") Jan 13 01:05:41 <-- boerst has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 13 01:05:58 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 01:05:59 --> Shuren (~Devilman@host167-171.pool8256.interbusiness.it) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:07:53 a little from lots of places will add up to a lot in your bank account, imo Jan 13 01:08:19 --> Kurt (kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:08:34 ya but a little can quickly add to nothing Jan 13 01:08:35 :P Jan 13 01:08:36 sorta like losing a pound a week...end of year, you'll be 52 lb lighter Jan 13 01:08:57 sounds like you need math lessons...hehe Jan 13 01:09:00 W|GG-Laptop: you know what's funny.. Jan 13 01:09:02 meowwuff: not really, but he saves everywhere he can. Jan 13 01:09:15 W|GG-Laptop: the minute you said "pound" I thought you were british Jan 13 01:09:20 <-- epic has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 01:09:24 lol Jan 13 01:09:28 I know Jan 13 01:09:30 bloody hell Jan 13 01:09:32 W|GG-Laptop, is 100% american Jan 13 01:09:33 hah Jan 13 01:09:38 well I thought you were talking about money Jan 13 01:09:38 :p Jan 13 01:09:39 i mean, we had season tickets to Eagles, and Flyers, but he would drive to the gas station that was one cent cheaper, or get gas on wednesdays at the one that had it 2 cents cheaper then. Jan 13 01:09:39 yep Jan 13 01:09:41 he was made in the USA Jan 13 01:09:52 acidkill: parents don't make sense.. Jan 13 01:09:59 i think it does. =) Jan 13 01:10:00 acidkill: they wouldn't be our superiors if they did Jan 13 01:10:34 acidkill: to be quite honest, I think that's a very wise thing your dad does.. as W|GG mentioned.. a penny saved is a penny earned Jan 13 01:10:37 if you can save money some how with out it being trouble, do it. Jan 13 01:10:43 exactly :) Jan 13 01:10:55 <-- Squall` has quit ("pizza in the morning pizza in the evening, pizza at supp.... oh wait? we'ere having lasagna tonight, mom? :(") Jan 13 01:11:02 <-- Excentric has quit () Jan 13 01:11:34 we shop at Sams Club for a lot of stuff because it is cheaper. but we do go out to dinner to Olive Garden or Lone Star a few times a month. doing one helps to do the other. Jan 13 01:11:39 sup playas Jan 13 01:11:56 bah Jan 13 01:12:05 sure, we have a closet with like 50 rolls of toilet paper in it though... =) Jan 13 01:12:07 my parents spit out money faster than George W Jan 13 01:12:13 * W|GG-Laptop goes to look for the "drop it like its hot" mp3 Jan 13 01:12:27 funny i go to Sams Club to get free lunch Jan 13 01:12:31 hahah Jan 13 01:12:34 he does that too. =) Jan 13 01:12:35 I eat smarties Jan 13 01:12:41 cause it saves me 3 bux on lunch Jan 13 01:12:48 :) Jan 13 01:13:01 and +, you look smarter != Jan 13 01:13:02 i used to eat Spree and drink water on the broke days when i was at university. Jan 13 01:13:11 omfg i hate spree with a passion Jan 13 01:13:17 i love them. Jan 13 01:13:21 chewie? Jan 13 01:13:23 god im still paying back my financial aid Jan 13 01:13:24 no, hard. Jan 13 01:13:26 15,000USD i owe Jan 13 01:13:29 smarties are the shit, no chewy shit Jan 13 01:13:29 chewie == nasty. Jan 13 01:13:30 im broker than broke Jan 13 01:13:42 ohh Jan 13 01:13:47 they make hard ones now Jan 13 01:13:59 <-- slackd00_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 01:14:02 smarties have always been hard Jan 13 01:14:03 haven't they? Jan 13 01:14:04 the hard ones where the original. Jan 13 01:14:09 ooo Jan 13 01:14:12 spree is what i was referring to Jan 13 01:14:13 ya the chewy are the new crap Jan 13 01:14:22 yea, im talking about spree too. Jan 13 01:14:23 you eat the hards long enuf you can get the chewy for half the price Jan 13 01:14:44 flaming hot *chips are sick too Jan 13 01:15:36 the only good flaming hot "chips" where these little patato sticks that were hot as fuck, they had them in my Jr. High way back when and never seen em since Jan 13 01:15:43 --> Kurt2 (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:15:51 meowwuff, heck.. you eat the hard long enough you got baby food... Jan 13 01:16:01 haha Jan 13 01:16:05 cheaper too Jan 13 01:16:13 2 in one Jan 13 01:16:20 feed the baby and get the softy. Jan 13 01:16:36 my daughters baby food costs more than to feed my smarties habits Jan 13 01:16:50 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:16:53 :) Jan 13 01:17:10 here I am sitting at work playing on the computer when i should be doing something productive Jan 13 01:17:13 im such a slacker Jan 13 01:17:19 ... Jan 13 01:17:23 --> Suicide|Solution (~PossesseD@200-193-074-128.jvece207.dial.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:17:24 booo Jan 13 01:17:30 meowwuff, doing nothing is something Jan 13 01:17:34 meowwuff, i hope your boss doesn't see this Jan 13 01:17:38 :) Jan 13 01:17:49 i have vector dynamics homework, too Jan 13 01:18:25 <-- Vayn0r (~Vayn0r@CPE0050047e7f32-CM0f2049994695.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!") Jan 13 01:18:29 my boss is younger than I am Jan 13 01:18:33 he doesnt mind if i talk on irc actaully Jan 13 01:18:41 if i need help he actualy tells me to go on irc Jan 13 01:18:42 heh Jan 13 01:18:56 what do you do? Jan 13 01:18:57 --> Resonance (~none@DIALUP-144-192.TNKNO2.USIT.NET) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:18:58 wow, you must have a pretty crappy company, no offense Jan 13 01:19:12 :) Jan 13 01:19:15 --> xemon (~zxemon@65.171.164.98) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:19:22 --> smartAFK (~smart@83.103.171.239) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:19:23 how would someone NOT take offense to that...? Jan 13 01:19:45 --> okmeufilho (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:19:56 meowwuff, your boss sounds cool though Jan 13 01:20:09 --> we2by (~we2by@dc5146d009.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:20:22 <-- Kurt has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 01:20:24 it's just... i wouldn't want to invest any stock in that company :) Jan 13 01:20:48 is there a linux noobie channel ? Jan 13 01:20:55 ##linux Jan 13 01:20:59 or tech help Jan 13 01:21:00 jesus christ Jan 13 01:21:01 ok Jan 13 01:21:02 ty Jan 13 01:21:11 meowwuff, what? Jan 13 01:21:13 #fedora ;) Jan 13 01:21:18 #gentoo Jan 13 01:21:19 lol Jan 13 01:21:20 Squall`: that's a pretty stupid thing to say, how does the fact me being on IRC make my "company" retarded Jan 13 01:21:28 Squall` hehe Jan 13 01:21:29 Squall`: do you know how many systems administrators are sitting on irc at work right now? Jan 13 01:21:37 meowwuff, A) i never even used the word retarded Jan 13 01:21:40 hahaah Jan 13 01:21:44 Squall`: you said crappy. Jan 13 01:21:45 b) here I am sitting at work playing on the computer when i should be doing something productive Jan 13 01:21:45 im such a slacker Jan 13 01:21:49 lmfao Jan 13 01:21:49 hahah Jan 13 01:21:52 c) i was joking Jan 13 01:21:54 It was a figure of speech Jan 13 01:21:58 Squall`: you never joke Jan 13 01:21:58 <-- Mellen has quit ("Konversation terminated!") Jan 13 01:22:02 Squall`: you aim to hurt Jan 13 01:22:06 Squall`: below the belt. Jan 13 01:22:12 meowwuff, how long have you been on this channel, a day? Jan 13 01:22:18 Squall`: years Jan 13 01:22:44 Squall`: you can't take me too seriously either, I really was offended Jan 13 01:22:47 meowwuff, half the crap i spam here is offtopic anyway, what do you mean i never joke? Jan 13 01:22:49 Squall`: after all, it's only IRC Jan 13 01:22:50 how can i effectively block a IP on my linux box ? Jan 13 01:23:02 smartAFK: hosts.allow/deny Jan 13 01:23:05 using IPTABLES Jan 13 01:23:06 smartAFK: or iptables Jan 13 01:23:07 Ok simplest question ever - How do I make GDM load at startup? Jan 13 01:23:14 "There is no HyperThreading support scheduled for the dual core Processors." mmm. =/ Jan 13 01:23:15 meowwuff, actually, i'm just jealous Jan 13 01:23:23 --> okmeufilho___ (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:23:26 Squall`: of what, my slacking? :() Jan 13 01:23:26 of the fact that you're getting paid to not be productive Jan 13 01:23:28 :) Jan 13 01:23:29 yeah Jan 13 01:23:31 epic is shitty Jan 13 01:23:32 i am productive Jan 13 01:23:33 trust me Jan 13 01:23:34 routh xwmconfig Jan 13 01:23:35 wow Jan 13 01:23:37 this IRC sux Jan 13 01:23:44 Squall`: I get about 500 tickets a day Jan 13 01:23:50 okmeufilho___, yeah, so leave Jan 13 01:23:54 oh Jan 13 01:23:55 epic Jan 13 01:24:02 sorry about that okmeufilho___ Jan 13 01:24:03 i don't even have time to deal with them all Jan 13 01:24:07 <-- Ava3ar has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 01:24:08 but in my spare time i socialize here.. Jan 13 01:24:17 Squall' hehe Jan 13 01:24:20 meowwuff, it's all right, i was just kidding Jan 13 01:24:26 Squall' it lacks a LOT of recourses Jan 13 01:24:33 hell, do you thik i do ANY work at school? Jan 13 01:24:39 i just sit there and ace tests :) Jan 13 01:24:48 Xchat is the best for X and irssi is the best for console Jan 13 01:24:51 leaving Jan 13 01:24:53 <-- okmeufilho___ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 01:24:59 irsssi is the best for X too Jan 13 01:25:00 if bc is arbitrary precision, how come i get 0 when i divide 4 by 6....i want a decimal. Jan 13 01:25:05 xterm -e irssi Jan 13 01:25:21 * acidkill agrees with Squall`. Jan 13 01:25:29 * thr1ce uses bitchx Jan 13 01:25:30 thr1ce: That allows me to choose which one starts with the 'startx' command - doesn't change the fact that I get a console login prompt and then have to run startx - I have some computer illiterates in my house that I want the graphical login to start as soon as linux starts - how do I add the GDM command to the startup? Jan 13 01:25:33 ewww Jan 13 01:25:39 acidkill, echo "4/6" | bc -ql Jan 13 01:26:09 oooh, ok Jan 13 01:26:24 meowwuff : using iptables and ethernet interface Jan 13 01:26:39 Squall`, in epic it doesnt even complete the nicks... argh Jan 13 01:26:45 smps: thank you. Jan 13 01:26:46 it doesn't? Jan 13 01:26:46 routh, in /etc/inittab, change it from id:3:initdefault to id:4:initdefault Jan 13 01:26:48 man Jan 13 01:26:48 i think Jan 13 01:26:54 what a POS Jan 13 01:27:05 can someone confirm that? Jan 13 01:27:24 thr1ce yes Jan 13 01:27:39 routh, to test, try telinit 3 in a terminal Jan 13 01:27:43 --> mako-sama (1000@217.17.236.101) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:27:45 er, telinit 4 Jan 13 01:27:56 --> Kurt3 (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:28:22 <-- routh has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 01:28:47 any1 able to help me here please, the support channel is quiet Jan 13 01:28:58 well help is nonexistent Jan 13 01:29:44 --> routh (~routh@Kingston-HSE-ppp3993381.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:29:48 <-- Roa has quit () Jan 13 01:30:00 routh, better? Jan 13 01:30:14 --> flamtripl3t (~g_dub@S010600121716f3cb.no.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:30:22 lol - yep thr1ce - that command worked - what file did I have to change again though? it shut my xserver down on me Jan 13 01:30:39 khronus: you have to ask a question to get help ;) Jan 13 01:30:53 <-- Kurt2 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 01:30:58 StevenR heh.. Jan 13 01:31:25 in /etc/inittab Jan 13 01:31:34 ok - thanks a bunch Jan 13 01:31:41 change to id:4:initdefault Jan 13 01:31:46 change the 3 to a 4 Jan 13 01:31:48 sometimes you get the weirdest questions asked by people, like.. my computer screen is blank.. generally you would never think to ask "is your computer turned on?" Jan 13 01:32:02 yeah I got that part - just didn't know which file ;) Jan 13 01:32:32 --> Kurt2 (~kmw@evvlinlwt-nas-07-s335.cinergycom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:32:33 --> evets (~steve@ppp-66-143-155-96.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:33:11 <-- Neur0 has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 01:34:01 khronus what is your question? Jan 13 01:34:07 ah hi Jan 13 01:34:09 ok Jan 13 01:34:15 when trying to startx i get : Jan 13 01:34:36 Xauth: error in locking authorityfile /home/khronus/.Xauthority Jan 13 01:34:38 followed by Jan 13 01:34:39 homeworld of the klingons? i thought that was khronos Jan 13 01:34:46 Could not create lock file in /tmp/.tX0-lock Jan 13 01:34:48 meowwuff: I do - then again - I worked for MSN tech support - they have a lot of SUPER dumb customers - betcha never thought you'd ever have to ask someone with dialup if they have a phone line eh? well... I did -and the customer didn't - he only had a cell Jan 13 01:35:06 i have gogled and read i need to change or delete permissions to that file Jan 13 01:35:10 but idont know how Jan 13 01:35:15 ive also deleted /tmp Jan 13 01:35:22 so i dunno how i can do that Jan 13 01:35:28 hm...wonder if you could just chmod it? Jan 13 01:35:32 <-- smartAFK has quit ("baby, spank me please :P") Jan 13 01:35:36 khronus: do you have a /tmp dir? Jan 13 01:35:52 well i deleted it but i could mkdir /tmp ya Jan 13 01:35:59 do that Jan 13 01:36:04 ok Jan 13 01:36:05 then what Jan 13 01:36:13 as it will be empty Jan 13 01:36:28 routh; cool Jan 13 01:36:29 khronus: try starting X again Jan 13 01:36:39 http://www.slackwaregallery.com/thumbnails.php?album=84 babem Jan 13 01:37:03 khronous: you need to run an xwrapper if you aren't running X as root Jan 13 01:37:19 ok, im a noob here soz Jan 13 01:37:28 ermm so i didn't understand that lol Jan 13 01:37:43 what do i need to do to get x ruunning again Jan 13 01:37:51 is main priority, Jan 13 01:38:04 <-- mmu_man has quit ("Vision[0.9.6-0203]: i've been blurred!") Jan 13 01:38:14 depending on his umask he might need to chmod the new /tmp directory Jan 13 01:38:20 so u say to create /tmp Jan 13 01:38:26 ok how do i do that Jan 13 01:38:41 is /tmp just a shortcut to /private/tmp ..so i read ? Jan 13 01:38:41 man mkdir Jan 13 01:38:53 khronus: not on slack it isn't Jan 13 01:39:01 --> Roa (~wer@201.133.106.152) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:39:11 --> ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:39:14 <-- routh has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 01:39:20 <-- ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) has left ##slackware ("Client exiting") Jan 13 01:39:36 khronous: type ls -la / and tell me what permissions your /tmp directory has.. like rx-r--r etc... Jan 13 01:39:47 --> khronusleeping (~roun@82-33-9-234.cable.ubr14.newt.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:39:51 hello i installed qemu ... working but i can't type anything Jan 13 01:39:51 ! Jan 13 01:39:53 soz ot d/c ed Jan 13 01:40:01 <-- Kurt3 has quit (Connection reset by peer) Jan 13 01:40:02 wtf Jan 13 01:40:06 say again? Jan 13 01:40:06 lol Jan 13 01:40:15 W Jan 13 01:40:20 W|GG-Laptop: it's german Jan 13 01:40:21 hi thr1ce Jan 13 01:40:27 its like frozen screen ;) Jan 13 01:40:28 not german Jan 13 01:40:37 dutch? Jan 13 01:40:40 or he's hoofing his keyboard Jan 13 01:40:42 hey khronusleeping Jan 13 01:40:43 --- khronusleeping is now known as khronus_ Jan 13 01:40:47 did it work? Jan 13 01:40:47 there back Jan 13 01:40:48 hehe Jan 13 01:40:53 no i ogt d/c ed Jan 13 01:40:59 ahh Jan 13 01:41:02 you got disconncted Jan 13 01:41:04 disconnected Jan 13 01:41:06 i hadn't finished ascertaining what i need to do Jan 13 01:41:14 in /etc/inittab Jan 13 01:41:23 hehe so create /tmp i can manage that Jan 13 01:41:28 but after that then what ? Jan 13 01:42:28 what do the permissions need to be for it Jan 13 01:42:41 or more specifically /tmp/tX0-lock Jan 13 01:42:42 --> elbarto (~el@p5082F3A0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:42:50 khronus: what are the permissions in your tmp dir Jan 13 01:42:54 khronous: can you show me? Jan 13 01:42:54 won't chmod 777 /tmp work? Jan 13 01:43:02 ok ill go try Jan 13 01:43:07 sunbx: click on it Jan 13 01:43:08 <-- elbarto (~el@p5082F3A0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has left ##slackware Jan 13 01:43:10 brb Jan 13 01:43:21 chmod 777 would work but it's not a good way to go about it Jan 13 01:43:29 got dem dubs yo? Jan 13 01:43:36 quick n dirty :) Jan 13 01:43:40 you wanna have the sticky bit there too Jan 13 01:44:00 --> Neur0 (~nick@203.134.139.141) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:44:04 StevenR click on what ? i start qemu , vga bios starts and i cannot do anything. no click no nothing :( Jan 13 01:44:06 chmod a+rwxt /tmp Jan 13 01:44:25 sunbx: how are you starting qemu? are you using a terminal within X ? Jan 13 01:44:31 sunbx: what command? Jan 13 01:45:45 --> ptlo (~senko@cmung2720.cmu.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:46:00 sunbx: hello? Jan 13 01:46:01 StevenR yes Jan 13 01:46:10 yes what? Jan 13 01:46:14 qemu -hda scratch.img -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d Jan 13 01:46:27 from x Jan 13 01:46:47 from a terminal? Jan 13 01:46:50 back Jan 13 01:46:51 --> nachox (~nacho@200-122-60-193.dsl.prima.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:46:53 <-- AeroFoam has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 01:47:01 no chmod 777 didn't work but..... Jan 13 01:47:02 hey Jan 13 01:47:15 sunbx: try qemu -cdrom /path/to/iso Jan 13 01:47:23 is /tmp normally a shortcut to /private/tmp ? Jan 13 01:47:41 khronus_: no Jan 13 01:47:44 nope Jan 13 01:47:46 <-- nachox has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 01:47:50 therfore do i need to make the /tmp i was trying to create a shortcut Jan 13 01:47:51 ok Jan 13 01:47:52 lol Jan 13 01:47:54 StevenR qemu starts , but i cannot type anything like my keyboard doesn't exist Jan 13 01:47:55 wrong Jan 13 01:47:58 so.. Jan 13 01:48:02 next move Jan 13 01:48:03 ? Jan 13 01:48:09 sunbx: did you try the command i suggested? Jan 13 01:48:14 i really wanna go to bed lol but i soo need this comp running Jan 13 01:48:16 brb now. let me try StevenR , i must swtich the monitor. Jan 13 01:48:20 swith* Jan 13 01:48:33 --> frogger_ (~frogger_@roc-66-67-58-171.rochester.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:48:51 --> QUESTutis (~questutis@lan-1-41.vkt.lt) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:49:03 khronus_, you're on slackware, right? Jan 13 01:49:25 ya Jan 13 01:49:33 --> routh (~routh@Kingston-HSE-ppp3993381.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:49:48 ah need to reboot mu screen is dead Jan 13 01:50:26 thr1ce, whatta ya think i can do ? Jan 13 01:51:01 ls -la / Jan 13 01:51:06 what does /tmp say Jan 13 01:51:24 ok ( i have to run up and down the stairs to do this ) Jan 13 01:51:27 so brb Jan 13 01:51:30 lol Jan 13 01:51:31 k Jan 13 01:51:35 Alright so I have the GDM loading on boot - now I'm probably going to have to search high and low for this, but does anyone know how to make the users show up in the GDM user browser... (On the 'Happy Gnome with Faces' login screen there is a user browser that should list available logins...) Jan 13 01:52:16 --> krao (~krao@CM-14-198.attla.cl) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:53:24 --> yanger (terminal@yanger.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:53:56 what's the easiest way to get slack10 current with the littlest download? Jan 13 01:54:00 thr1ce Jan 13 01:54:10 it has 6 files or folders in Jan 13 01:54:18 yes, you want /tmp Jan 13 01:54:19 So I was reading the slackware site.. what exactly did Pat suffer from? Jan 13 01:54:22 what did it end up being? Jan 13 01:54:33 yea i mean in /tmp i did ls -la Jan 13 01:54:39 and there 6 files or folders Jan 13 01:54:45 conf Jan 13 01:54:47 orbit Jan 13 01:54:53 xe11-unix Jan 13 01:54:55 a few others Jan 13 01:55:05 sunbx: anything? Jan 13 01:55:07 --> ph0enix (~phoenix@201-003-141-157.nhoce7005.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:55:17 khronus: what kind of linux are you running? Jan 13 01:55:18 <-- ph0enix has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 01:55:21 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-216-79-252-248.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:55:24 i have to go and sleep its 1 am and im tooo fucked off with this Jan 13 01:55:30 slack gzzmo Jan 13 01:55:35 i cant stay up any longer Jan 13 01:55:36 --> war- (war@oper.us) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:55:37 lol Jan 13 01:55:40 will be back in 8 hours Jan 13 01:55:46 ty for your help Jan 13 01:55:48 khronus_, people will be here Jan 13 01:55:50 sorry :( Jan 13 01:55:51 --> kspud (~sure@ip68-102-246-114.ks.ok.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:55:52 cool Jan 13 01:55:54 ty Jan 13 01:56:24 <-- khronus has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 01:56:48 <-- war- has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 01:57:15 ahh! bbl Jan 13 01:57:17 <-- yanger has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 01:58:05 <-- thr1ce has quit ("BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") Jan 13 01:58:18 --> thr1ce (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:58:41 <-- StevenR has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 01:59:01 <-- thr1ce has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 01:59:34 --> dimm0k (~nmok@pool-68-161-138-19.ny325.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:59:50 --> thr1ce (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 01:59:55 <-- QUESTutis has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 02:01:52 <-- dimm0k (~nmok@pool-68-161-138-19.ny325.east.verizon.net) has left ##slackware Jan 13 02:01:54 --> dimm0k (~nmok@pool-68-161-138-19.ny325.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 02:02:20 --> Straterra (~r00t@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 02:02:24 <-- Kurt2 has quit ("By rejecting Judeo-Christian ethics entirely, I have managed to make several people extremely angry.") Jan 13 02:06:57 Does anyone know why the GNOME face browser on slack 10 wouldn't show the list of users on the computer? Jan 13 02:07:00 --> nomasteryoda (~nomastery@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 02:07:33 <-- ximpul has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 02:09:29 <-- flamtripl3t has quit ("k.bye") Jan 13 02:10:24 <-- poolio has quit ("leaving") Jan 13 02:10:41 routh: i could tell you why, but i risk getting a +q for trolling. =) Jan 13 02:11:02 acidkill, you were gonna say Slack sucks or something? Jan 13 02:11:28 never. s/slack/gnome/. Jan 13 02:11:40 Ah Jan 13 02:11:43 That's not trolling Jan 13 02:11:43 :P Jan 13 02:11:50 Slack is dropping GNOME anyway Jan 13 02:12:15 has pat confirmed that past what was said a few months ago? Jan 13 02:12:27 Wha? Jan 13 02:12:29 Why would slack drop gnome? Jan 13 02:12:34 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 02:12:42 routh, ever tried to compile GNOME? Jan 13 02:12:43 routh: its a pain in the ass to maintain. Jan 13 02:12:55 It's by no means automated to compile. It takes a very long time to compile it Jan 13 02:13:06 ahh Jan 13 02:13:08 G'evening Jan 13 02:13:13 there are like 150 packages it depends on to make a full working system. Jan 13 02:13:38 thats too bad - given a choice of KDE or Gnome - I find gnome much nicer and less buggy Jan 13 02:13:39 not even it...there is no gnome, just a bunch of things that work, kinda, together. Jan 13 02:13:52 LoL Jan 13 02:13:59 I like 'em both, sooo Jan 13 02:14:05 KDE and GNOME, that is Jan 13 02:14:09 xfce, and kde for me. Jan 13 02:14:15 I like emacs + screen, personally. Jan 13 02:14:24 lol Jan 13 02:14:25 I use screen alot Jan 13 02:14:33 But never emacs, vi all the way! Jan 13 02:14:35 :P Jan 13 02:14:35 i have never actually used screen. lol. Jan 13 02:14:41 acidkill, its nice Jan 13 02:14:45 i hear it is. Jan 13 02:14:47 screen -d -R is my favorite Jan 13 02:15:04 <-- ph0enix- has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 02:15:06 this is weird.... Jan 13 02:15:09 # mount -o loop k3b_0.iso /mnt/iso/ Jan 13 02:15:10 mount: you must specify the filesystem type Jan 13 02:15:21 iso9668 or whateveR? Jan 13 02:15:29 iso9660 Jan 13 02:15:35 nope, fails on that too. Jan 13 02:15:43 mount -o loop k3b.iso -t iso9660 /mnt/iso doesn't work? Jan 13 02:15:51 nope. Jan 13 02:15:52 not a valid image, then Jan 13 02:16:00 i just made it with k3b. Jan 13 02:16:16 its some 350 game collection thing my mom bought. the CD works though. Jan 13 02:16:29 Trying to make an illegal copy? Jan 13 02:16:30 :O Jan 13 02:16:35 try 'file k3b.iso' Jan 13 02:16:37 backup, officer. Jan 13 02:16:42 :P Jan 13 02:16:45 k3b_0.iso: data Jan 13 02:17:03 * acidkill tries cone copy... Jan 13 02:17:29 i dont think this will work...cant read various sectors. 156, 208, 260, 312..... Jan 13 02:17:29 if you just want to copy the complete cd, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso should work Jan 13 02:17:41 ptlo: i have had that fail MANY times. Jan 13 02:17:51 Scratched CD? Jan 13 02:17:54 nope. Jan 13 02:18:00 Hammered drive? Jan 13 02:18:01 :P Jan 13 02:18:11 Bullet holes in the IDE channels? Jan 13 02:18:27 Did the kernel just panick 1 too many times and you lost it? Jan 13 02:18:30 im trying dd now. Jan 13 02:18:39 It's ok..this is a safe place..you can talk about your problem. :D Jan 13 02:19:08 dd using 55% cpu. lol. Jan 13 02:19:21 i/o time gets counted in Jan 13 02:19:24 guess thats why they invented DMA. Jan 13 02:19:24 No DMA? Jan 13 02:19:29 nope. Jan 13 02:19:35 One of my CD-ROM drives will NOT work with DMA Jan 13 02:19:37 cant set it for some reason. Jan 13 02:19:46 It just sits there..and sits there..the disk spins..just sits there... Jan 13 02:20:00 i get a HDD_IO_FAIL error. Jan 13 02:20:00 I gotta use the emergency eject button to get the CD out Jan 13 02:20:03 --> nachox (~nacho@200-122-60-6.dsl.prima.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 02:20:09 hey nachox Jan 13 02:20:10 lol...you see that crap on TV, that flava flave and brigette neisen are a couple? Jan 13 02:20:13 w Jan 13 02:20:13 t Jan 13 02:20:13 f Jan 13 02:20:26 hey Squall`, W|GG-Laptop =) Jan 13 02:20:28 i heard Brad and Jennifer broke up...now i have a shot. =) Jan 13 02:20:29 hi Jan 13 02:20:32 W|GG-Laptop, wtf kind of name is flava flave? Jan 13 02:20:40 <-- routh has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 02:20:43 a rapper name. ;-) Jan 13 02:20:44 olde school rapper Jan 13 02:20:47 old Jan 13 02:20:57 Mine will set..just won't work with it Jan 13 02:21:23 evening nachox Jan 13 02:22:14 <-- Resonance has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 02:22:32 W|GG-Laptop: If I was a rapper, I'd be MC DJ or DJ MC. Not sure which. Jan 13 02:22:39 flava flave is the blackest person i have ever seen in my entire life Jan 13 02:23:00 heh Jan 13 02:23:05 kobs, no shit Jan 13 02:23:05 and flava flave still wears large clocks on his gold chains. STYLE! Jan 13 02:23:06 lol Jan 13 02:23:12 he's like black hole black Jan 13 02:23:17 it's crazy Jan 13 02:23:37 there we go. dd worked. Jan 13 02:23:40 I used to know a guy who wore all black, and was dark enough you couldn't hardly see him at night. Jan 13 02:23:56 ha Jan 13 02:24:11 hehe Jan 13 02:24:17 Legendre: I kid you not. Even scarier since I knew he had a 9mm and a .30 cal rifle under his trench. Jan 13 02:24:22 --> slackd00d (~edson@c-24-19-219-0.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 02:24:37 flava flav is so black that he'll look like a shadow on a moonless cloudy night Jan 13 02:24:59 lol Jan 13 02:25:13 I used to carry, but I cut that out in my early 20's. Jan 13 02:25:36 I'm thinking about applying for a concealed carry permit. Jan 13 02:25:44 where you at? Jan 13 02:26:01 Me? Misery, err, Missouri Jan 13 02:26:02 one day i want to be able to carry Jan 13 02:26:07 --> Pechorin (~cabrilo@adsl-66-139-120-80.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 02:26:10 right now i don't even own one Jan 13 02:26:14 <-- ndev (~naren@jffwpr07.jf.intel.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 13 02:26:15 you could get one for a while here, then they suspended the law for review. Jan 13 02:26:28 I don't either, but I know what Iwant if I could afford it. Jan 13 02:26:37 makes no sense to me.. anyone who is competent should be able to carry arms. Jan 13 02:26:42 IMHO Jan 13 02:26:56 Legendre: I want to move to, New Hampshire or Maine, I can't remember. Jan 13 02:27:15 well, you better be sure before you move there :X Jan 13 02:27:33 Pretty much anyone can carry whatever w/o a permit, or it's so easy to get one you might as well not need it. Jan 13 02:27:35 truth is, the only people who care to respect carry laws, are law-respecting people. Jan 13 02:27:46 Yeah. Jan 13 02:27:53 the crims already have them, why shouldn't the general pop? Jan 13 02:27:54 Gun control is hitting what you aim it. Jan 13 02:27:55 * XGizzmo wants a beretta and a glock 9mm Jan 13 02:27:57 in wich slackware package is setenv binary ? Jan 13 02:28:15 sunbx - MANIFEST.bz2 is your friend Jan 13 02:28:18 XGizzmo: I don't. I want a Peacemaker and a DE Jan 13 02:28:40 * nachox is getting really pissed, this isnt his day Jan 13 02:28:42 <-- evets has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 02:28:43 lol to big for me Jan 13 02:28:44 I'm fine with my compact .32 auto ;) Jan 13 02:28:54 And after I get a DE I want to load it up with alternating FMJ and hollows. Jan 13 02:29:19 heh.. DE are only practical as a tactical battle weapon. Jan 13 02:29:33 assuming you can hit someone at 1000 yards with a handgun ;) Jan 13 02:29:56 <-- ptlo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 02:29:57 Legendre: I'll move to Isreal and get some training. Jan 13 02:29:59 otherwise, youd be better served by a 1911-A1 Jan 13 02:30:19 Legendre: is that the army colt? Jan 13 02:30:22 * W|GG-Laptop wants a glock .40 cal Jan 13 02:30:25 smaller, less weight, cheaper.. and just as hard-hitting at close ranges. Jan 13 02:30:46 <-- juice has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 02:30:52 XGizzmo - yeah, the .45 colt sidearm. But I'd suggest the NOrinco clone.. or Spingfield Arms etc. Jan 13 02:30:59 in wich slackware package is setenv binary ? can't find it in manifest.tar Jan 13 02:31:19 the Norinco is utilitarian in fit & finish, but a really fine handgun. Jan 13 02:31:38 Legendre: If you notice my other comments earlier, I mentioned the "Peacemaker", ie, the Colt .45 Jan 13 02:31:41 sunbx - you cant grep it from MANIFEST.bz2? Jan 13 02:32:02 oh sorry.. I thought the 'peacemaker' was the .45 long colt revolver. Jan 13 02:32:15 root@sunbx:~> cat MANIFEST | grep setenv Jan 13 02:32:15 root@sunbx:~> Jan 13 02:32:28 Legendre: Originally, yes, but I think it carries over to other Colt .45s as well. Jan 13 02:32:52 sunbx - well, assuming you previously unbzipped MANIFEST.bz2, then I guess it's not in there. Jan 13 02:33:17 but i need that executable Jan 13 02:33:25 and i have the man page of it but i don;t have it. Jan 13 02:33:40 --> juice (~juice@mo-65-40-189-111.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 02:33:46 guess you need to build it then. Jan 13 02:33:49 or find a pacakge. Jan 13 02:34:17 * sunbx is starting to hate slackware even if is a big fan of it Jan 13 02:34:19 Legendre: I'd like to get an old Mac truck junker, fire it up, then shoot the grill a few times. Double hammer, FMJ followed but a hollow. With someone running a camera too. Jan 13 02:34:42 With a DE, or similiar. Jan 13 02:34:52 wanton destruction.. tsk tsk. Jan 13 02:35:01 does your mom know this? :p Jan 13 02:35:09 FriedBob, or..get a M203 revolver.. Jan 13 02:35:20 Or a M79 launcher Jan 13 02:35:29 And stand back maybe 20 feet..and fire away Jan 13 02:35:31 root@sunbx:/database/win> qemu -hda system.img -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d Jan 13 02:35:32 Could not initialize SDL - exiting Jan 13 02:35:32 root@sunbx:/database/win> Jan 13 02:35:33 :D Jan 13 02:35:42 * Legendre wishes it was legal to build up one of those Sten SMG parts kits ;) Jan 13 02:35:48 I've got the machine tools to make it go. Jan 13 02:36:17 sunbx - begging for SDL?.. install it. Jan 13 02:36:28 Legendre is installed. Jan 13 02:36:45 then ldd `which qemu` Jan 13 02:36:46 Legendre: How does it feel to be installed? Jan 13 02:36:48 <-- radi0head has quit ("bbl") Jan 13 02:36:50 SDL-1.2.8 Jan 13 02:36:50 and see what it is missing. Jan 13 02:37:09 --> DarkTide_ (~nerd@dialup-4.156.105.9.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 02:37:22 can i have that paste thing ? Jan 13 02:37:26 FriedBob - like a suqid eating dough, in a polyethylene bag.. Fast and bulbous. Jan 13 02:37:29 --> skubee (1000@c-24-21-137-201.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 02:37:29 i want to paste the output Jan 13 02:37:41 that Lost series is whack Jan 13 02:37:46 'paste thing' ? Jan 13 02:38:01 well Jan 13 02:38:01 :) Jan 13 02:38:06 there was a link... Jan 13 02:38:15 err, you mean pastebin or #flood Jan 13 02:38:17 anyway the poit is that NOTHING is missing. Jan 13 02:38:35 libSDL-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 (0x4005b000) Jan 13 02:38:35 libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x400bc000) Jan 13 02:38:35 libutil.so.1 => /lib/libutil.so.1 (0x4010e000) Jan 13 02:38:53 but it can't init the SDL..? Jan 13 02:39:05 sim Jan 13 02:39:06 try as root, to obviate permissions issues. Jan 13 02:39:25 <-- web_knows has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 13 02:39:35 i am root. Jan 13 02:40:01 hi... question. If I am in text mode and I would like to access a share on the network via text. What would be the syntax? Jan 13 02:40:15 <-- Ahil has quit ("Read error: 32 (Broken mind)") Jan 13 02:40:18 smb?? Jan 13 02:40:28 JiMMy-JaKAzz, mount -t smbfs //192.168.x.x/sharename /mnt/mountpoint Jan 13 02:40:35 in what i read i underrstaned that manipulate X11 with xhost to allow qemu to connect to :0.0 Jan 13 02:40:40 Straterra, tnx Jan 13 02:40:44 You can also supply username and password too, if need be Jan 13 02:40:47 I need to go eat, then install 2.6.10 after I patch it. Jan 13 02:40:52 Later Jan 13 02:40:52 cool Jan 13 02:40:55 <-- FriedBob has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 13 02:40:57 Did it work? Jan 13 02:40:58 :P Jan 13 02:41:01 --> spenser (~spenser@cpe-065-185-193-128.nc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 02:41:21 <-- nomasteryoda has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 02:41:51 sunbx - sorry, you're out of my realm. I don't even run qemu, just trying to give general help. Jan 13 02:42:05 <-- toshin has quit ("-") Jan 13 02:42:05 --> nomasteryoda (~nomastery@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 02:42:12 ic... any alternative to qemu ? please not vmware Jan 13 02:42:12 :) Jan 13 02:44:12 how do I show the ip in irssi? Jan 13 02:44:17 --> Kurt (kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 02:44:58 <-- DarkTide has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 02:45:35 ah, system emulator. Jan 13 02:45:36 <-- XGizzmo has quit ("going going gone") Jan 13 02:45:46 what does it emulate? x86? Jan 13 02:46:29 --> Kyle_S_ (~kyle@c-24-12-143-3.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 02:46:46 yes Jan 13 02:46:54 celeron 2000 Jan 13 02:47:01 need to run win xp Jan 13 02:47:34 Straterra, I would have to create a mount point in the /mnt/mountpoint directory? Jan 13 02:47:35 hm, I've only ever done vmware Jan 13 02:47:37 hoy do I append a string to the begining of a text file?? (like echo $STRING >> file.txt but to the begining) Jan 13 02:47:47 before? Jan 13 02:47:57 JiMMy-JaKAzz, yes Jan 13 02:48:02 ok.. Jan 13 02:48:04 You would have to create /mnt/mountpoint Jan 13 02:48:08 that was an example Jan 13 02:48:13 /mnt/network or whatever you want Jan 13 02:48:21 cool Jan 13 02:48:49 Legendre if vmware ... well i start the vmware and it boot directly from the network even if i set in that false bios to boot from cd 1 Jan 13 02:49:00 noDLL - try "echo $STRING | cat filename > filename2 Jan 13 02:49:11 ignore that " Jan 13 02:49:17 hmm, you use a temp file, cat both the string and the file to the temp file and replace the old file with the new one Jan 13 02:49:27 right, same idea. Jan 13 02:49:40 Legendre: thanks Jan 13 02:50:56 --> XGizzmo (~gizzmo@xgizzmo.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 02:51:09 my room is like a massive void, a black hole, anything that enters dissapears for ever. and can never be found. Jan 13 02:51:11 hm, doesn't work.. Jan 13 02:51:13 sorry Jan 13 02:51:26 --> _tdfc (tdfc@otaku.freeshell.org) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 02:51:29 acidkill, same here Jan 13 02:51:29 :P Jan 13 02:52:41 <-- Straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 02:52:55 how do i rename a dir with a \ in the name? Jan 13 02:53:23 escape the character. ie mv file file\\name. Jan 13 02:54:12 <-- _tdfc has quit ("1") Jan 13 02:55:08 damn it Jan 13 02:55:09 mv src\\r src cannot stat srcr : No such file or directory Jan 13 02:55:20 use quotes maybe? Jan 13 02:55:35 generally, i press tab to complete names, it auto escapes things Jan 13 02:55:59 different behaviors in different terminals i think though Jan 13 02:56:20 when i type sr *tab* it lists Jan 13 02:56:23 src src^M Jan 13 02:56:59 ^M Jan 13 02:57:03 <-- JackaLX has quit ("BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") Jan 13 02:57:07 <-- Kyle_S has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 02:57:09 yeah? Jan 13 02:57:12 there is an embedded control char in there? Jan 13 02:57:39 yeah Jan 13 02:57:50 an accident : Jan 13 02:57:56 how do i rename it? Jan 13 02:58:24 thanks guys for the help.. got some reading to do.. cheers! Jan 13 02:58:25 nvm did mv src* src Jan 13 02:58:27 ethereal will only capture packets on your segemnt of a lan right? only on a specific collision domain. or will it capture for a whole broadcast domain? Jan 13 02:58:28 <-- nachox has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 13 02:58:32 lol Jan 13 02:58:35 heh Jan 13 02:58:35 good work Jan 13 02:58:40 thanks :\ Jan 13 02:58:43 --> nachox (~nacho@200-122-56-208.dsl.prima.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 02:58:57 <-- JiMMy-JaKAzz (~JiMMy-JaK@HSE-Montreal-ppp3474474.sympatico.ca) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 13 02:58:57 ohno Jan 13 02:59:01 hey, not like I had any fast advice on it. Jan 13 02:59:22 ah nevermind Jan 13 02:59:45 <-- krao has quit ("Abandonando") Jan 13 02:59:46 --> Kurt2 (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 02:59:57 if i have src/src/ how can i move the 2nd src into the first? Jan 13 03:00:11 heh nvm again Jan 13 03:00:14 i should think before i talk Jan 13 03:00:23 <-- ginpa has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 13 03:00:50 when i try to run the nvidia-installer, i get an error: http://pastebin.ca/4118 Jan 13 03:01:06 i think it has to do with nvidia/MESA gl libraries, but not sure how to resolve the issue...any ideas? Jan 13 03:01:06 <-- Kurt has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 03:01:37 --> snL20 (~irssi@snL20.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:02:02 octavious - yeah, you need to unistall whatever gl libs you had on there before the nvidia install. Jan 13 03:02:44 hmm, and i assume there is no easy way to do that :\ Jan 13 03:02:54 <-- jmedina has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 03:03:05 if you installed from a package, just remove the package. Jan 13 03:03:37 <-- crackjack has quit ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") Jan 13 03:03:49 nope :( Jan 13 03:03:50 Legendre: then there is no way to append a string to the begining of a text file? Jan 13 03:04:17 how do i add a init script when x starts ? like: i want a vnc server to start automaticaly with x Jan 13 03:04:22 noDLL - well, as was suggested.. you can send it to a tempfile then cat tempfile otherfile > newfile Jan 13 03:04:54 sunbx - add it to the xinitrc Jan 13 03:05:01 Legendre thx Jan 13 03:05:02 :D Jan 13 03:05:16 is there a way to set only x window to start not kde 2 ? Jan 13 03:05:56 uncoment the startkde stuff ? 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Jan 13 03:06:35 damn iptables rules :( i have to set the personal rules beffore general rules Jan 13 03:07:10 /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.twm Jan 13 03:07:11 /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.kde Jan 13 03:07:11 /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc Jan 13 03:07:11 /root/.xinitrc Jan 13 03:07:11 <-- nixor has kicked sunbx from ##slackware (flood) Jan 13 03:07:11 --> sunbx (~awx@82.76.44.123) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:07:12 yup, thats how it works Jan 13 03:07:45 sunbx, dont flood, use xwmconfig Jan 13 03:08:51 --> DarkTide (~nerd@dialup-4.156.102.139.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:09:09 sorry Jan 13 03:09:09 :) Jan 13 03:09:43 <-- Suicide|Solution has quit ("ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz") Jan 13 03:10:13 --> jmedina (~jmedina@63.70.73.227) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:10:24 sunbx: to init only X with no apps ...use "xinit" Jan 13 03:10:31 i think Jan 13 03:10:33 hehe Jan 13 03:11:11 or make a file in $HOME/.xinitrc with a line like "exec xterm" Jan 13 03:11:19 and then startx Jan 13 03:11:22 DLL? thats so much of a windows term Jan 13 03:11:23 heh Jan 13 03:12:01 --> nazgul_ (~anarky@host208-29.pool8249.interbusiness.it) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:12:02 he want to start X with no kde Jan 13 03:12:43 evening udk Jan 13 03:13:04 lo XGizzmo Jan 13 03:13:25 or set the .xinitrc with the line to start the vncserver "exec vncserver stuff" Jan 13 03:13:28 * UdontKnow leaving already Jan 13 03:13:54 <-- signal has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 13 03:15:15 hey udk =) Jan 13 03:15:36 lo nachox Jan 13 03:15:42 * UdontKnow gonna sleep... 0:14 Jan 13 03:15:55 what do you do if you enter a command, and your terminal just sits there Jan 13 03:16:04 how can I setup a command line so that I can launch a program on another computer, like sofffice, via ssh Jan 13 03:16:05 not doing anything except blinking the cursor Jan 13 03:16:11 is there a way to make X server start at system boot ? Jan 13 03:16:19 ie, currently I do 'ssh -X user@server.blah' (enter in) 'soffice' Jan 13 03:16:28 --> JiMMy-JaKAzz (~JiMMy-JaK@HSE-Montreal-ppp3474474.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:16:29 sunbx: set your run level default to 4 Jan 13 03:16:33 hi back.. Jan 13 03:16:37 see /etc/inittab Jan 13 03:16:38 sunbx : change the run level Jan 13 03:16:40 <-- octavious has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 13 03:16:46 <-- nologo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 03:16:48 can u please explain ? Jan 13 03:16:57 why can't i add a line in rc.local ? Jan 13 03:17:01 <-- snL20 has quit (":~(") Jan 13 03:18:09 sunbx: are you trying as root? Jan 13 03:18:17 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Ottawa-ppp324664.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:18:47 im trying to make the vncserver start at boot Jan 13 03:18:59 vnd wont start because without x Jan 13 03:19:05 so i have to startx at boot Jan 13 03:19:05 man-ed mountpoints... googled. I am close but no cigar. I created a mount point in /mnt. tried mounting the /mnt/mountpoint-name. There error message is mount point does not exist.. any ideas? Jan 13 03:19:16 sunbx : if you know a better way, then wtf are you asking here how to do it? Jan 13 03:19:27 you were told the proper [tm] way Jan 13 03:19:31 i am asking u ! Jan 13 03:19:32 :( Jan 13 03:19:48 anyone ever used the ucspi-tcp-0.88.errno.patch ? Jan 13 03:20:07 ananke is a fairly smart guy, i would use a solution he provided. ;-) Jan 13 03:20:13 <-- PrplNrpl has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 03:20:15 does someone need to be thumped? Jan 13 03:20:26 yeah nachox Jan 13 03:20:37 lol Jan 13 03:20:38 <-- spenser has quit () Jan 13 03:20:59 "thumped"? Jan 13 03:21:04 acidkill : oddly enough, i haven't provided any solution at all :) Jan 13 03:21:11 lo W|GG-Laptop Jan 13 03:21:28 heh. Jan 13 03:21:39 W|GG-Laptop: I got news from sandman1 yesterday, as I msged you Jan 13 03:21:41 in case if anybody is downloading stuff from me, beware: i'll be rebooting in 10 or so mins Jan 13 03:21:48 W|GG-Laptop: he was just taking a break Jan 13 03:21:49 lol Jan 13 03:22:05 yeah, he /msg'd me Jan 13 03:22:08 thanks though Jan 13 03:22:14 np Jan 13 03:22:15 ananke: you run the vt ntp server also ? Jan 13 03:22:18 sounds like he's having a tough time Jan 13 03:22:18 so sand is back? Jan 13 03:22:19 ananke: you get your new box online yet? (that was the reboot is maybe?) Jan 13 03:22:27 ananke: new kernel? Jan 13 03:22:36 <-- Squall` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 03:23:00 XGizzmo : nope. i'm not responsible for anything outside of .vbi.vt.edu/.bioinformatics.vt.edu Jan 13 03:23:05 thr1ce : new workstation Jan 13 03:23:14 acidkill : that's what i'm preparing now Jan 13 03:23:14 ahh Jan 13 03:23:20 that's awesome Jan 13 03:23:20 nice. =) Jan 13 03:23:32 ananke: did you decide on impletmenting an iso w/ 2.6.x? Jan 13 03:23:36 ananke, out of curiosity, whats the uptime of the server youre going to reboot? Jan 13 03:23:38 --> mortal_ (~mortal@adsl-81-128-59.mgm.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:23:43 thr1ce : i haven't had a chance yet Jan 13 03:23:54 hey do any of you guys know how to get a mic working in slack? Jan 13 03:24:01 nachox : it's my workstation, hardly a 'server' :) anyway, only a few months Jan 13 03:24:11 ;) Jan 13 03:24:11 alsamixer Jan 13 03:24:20 mortal_: alsamixer? Jan 13 03:24:35 im so psyched about this new job..im finally going to have money. lol. Jan 13 03:24:39 <-- khronus_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 03:24:52 acidkill: money is over rated Jan 13 03:25:02 not yet for me. =) Jan 13 03:25:02 what do you do if you enter a command, and your terminal just sits there? not doing anything except blinking the cursor Jan 13 03:25:08 <-- okmeufilho has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 03:25:09 it deppends Jan 13 03:25:15 CTRL C Jan 13 03:25:32 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:25:32 --> DarkTide1 (~nerd@dialup-4.156.102.94.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:25:36 <-- jmedina has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 03:25:43 <-- UZY (~jack@200-103-150-114.ctame7041.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has left ##slackware Jan 13 03:25:58 acidkill: thinking that helps stave off the depression :) Jan 13 03:26:03 Outpour, what command? Jan 13 03:26:05 --> UZY (~jack@200-103-150-114.ctame7041.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:26:07 G'evening Jan 13 03:26:08 <-- kspud has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 03:26:31 XGizzmo, I've unmuted it in alsamixer Jan 13 03:26:47 what's a basic ap that i can use to test it? Jan 13 03:26:50 --> octavious (100@pcp05921128pcs.sprgfd01.mi.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:26:54 mortal_: cat Jan 13 03:26:59 cat? Jan 13 03:27:01 mortal_: cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp Jan 13 03:27:02 mortal_, alsa store Jan 13 03:27:13 \alsactl store Jan 13 03:27:18 mortal_, no.. alsoctl store Jan 13 03:27:26 mortal_: this will play your mic back to you, with a small delay Jan 13 03:27:29 typo Jan 13 03:27:33 XGizzmo: i kinda have been down lately, but things seem to be turning around for me. new job, new car, only thing missing is a woman...but i have confidence in that. =) Jan 13 03:27:36 nachox : patch Jan 13 03:27:54 lol.. Jan 13 03:28:01 acidkill: been there i know the feeling Jan 13 03:28:06 acidkill: my woman is 500 miles away- i think tha'ts worse =[ Jan 13 03:28:06 Outpour, what are you patching? Jan 13 03:28:07 acidkill, how about new identity? Jan 13 03:28:29 i like me just fine. Jan 13 03:28:36 ucspi-tcp for qmail installation Jan 13 03:28:38 women.. dime a dozen.. Jan 13 03:28:49 yea, but most arent worth their weight in gold. Jan 13 03:28:51 * acidkill runs. Jan 13 03:29:14 sounds like JiMMy-JaKAzz has experience with cheap women Jan 13 03:29:20 acidkill, you got newjob new money. Women are just going to thow themselves at you. Jan 13 03:29:33 and i shall catch them, when they do. Jan 13 03:29:34 Outpour, read man patch and the instructions in the qmail tarball Jan 13 03:29:46 hmm, k. let's see how well this will go. old workstation in building A is going down, new one in building B is coming up, and i'm in building C... Jan 13 03:29:49 <-- ananke has quit ("reboot") Jan 13 03:29:50 --> TheBeast (~betzivu@dsl-66-225-165-10.vianet.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:29:52 W|GG-Laptop, cheap... expensive.. whatever.. been there done that. Jan 13 03:30:05 I got nothing on the /dev/dsp cat Jan 13 03:30:09 <-- n2iko has quit ("leaving") Jan 13 03:30:19 outpour, praying helps too Jan 13 03:30:22 and time Jan 13 03:30:24 lots of time Jan 13 03:30:34 say, 3 straight months of screwing with qmail Jan 13 03:30:41 nachox i have.. hence why im patching Jan 13 03:30:46 hi Jan 13 03:30:47 and then, if that doesnt make it work, you can always switch to postfix Jan 13 03:30:50 i just want a freaking mail server Jan 13 03:30:56 * W|GG-Laptop has done it all also, but doesn't call them a dime a dozen because he probably has more experience with them Jan 13 03:30:56 <-- DarkTide_ has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 13 03:31:01 W|GG-Laptop, at least cheap women will do threesomes... pffffffff! Jan 13 03:31:12 for my domain heh Jan 13 03:31:19 <-- Pechorin has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 03:31:31 I dunno why my mic isn't workin ...I've got it unmuted Jan 13 03:31:34 is there like a 'make uninstall' ? Jan 13 03:31:36 poof ananke disappers in a cloud of smoke. Jan 13 03:31:40 behave now...there are women in this channel Jan 13 03:31:58 lol Jan 13 03:32:17 mortal_: set mic as the capture device Jan 13 03:32:17 --> okmeufilho (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:32:20 aite Jan 13 03:32:45 XGizzmo, in alsamixer? where? Jan 13 03:32:50 alsamixer Jan 13 03:33:50 all i see is ...mic mic capture and mic boost Jan 13 03:34:00 how do i set mic caputure device?? Jan 13 03:34:09 mortal_, greater lessthan sign Jan 13 03:34:12 turn up mic capture Jan 13 03:34:16 --> ananke (~ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:34:29 * XGizzmo hides from ananke. Jan 13 03:34:35 --> IronBob (~ironbob@adsl-208-191-166-220.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:34:36 mortal_, up down arrow key to adjust sound level Jan 13 03:34:37 ok did that Jan 13 03:34:49 mortal_, ESC Jan 13 03:35:08 mortal_, at console.. type in alsactl store Jan 13 03:35:11 both my mic and mic cap vols are maxed Jan 13 03:35:23 i still can't hear anything Jan 13 03:35:30 mortal_, by the way.. plug mic in? Jan 13 03:35:38 yeah Jan 13 03:35:38 mortal_: sound blaster? Jan 13 03:35:40 it's in Jan 13 03:35:41 * nachox wonders if the box in building b booted right Jan 13 03:35:52 emu10k1 Jan 13 03:35:57 yeah sb Jan 13 03:36:18 --> robs_laptop (~rob@wbar5.tmp1-4-4-102-092.tmp1.dsl-verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:36:47 nachox : yep, it did Jan 13 03:36:52 --> Kyle_S (~kyle@c-24-12-143-3.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:36:59 argh Jan 13 03:37:01 evening Kyle_S Jan 13 03:37:06 what happend, Kyle_S Jan 13 03:37:11 mortal_: are you still having mic issues? Jan 13 03:37:22 yes Jan 13 03:37:28 thr1ce: the stupid linksys I think. Jan 13 03:37:28 how would i uninstall an application? (such as qmail?) Jan 13 03:37:29 hey XGizzmo Jan 13 03:37:34 Kyle_S: Oi oi Jan 13 03:37:37 mortal_: ok do you have smixer? or any mixer software? Jan 13 03:37:39 pkgtool Jan 13 03:37:40 Outpour: pkgtool Jan 13 03:37:42 hey FriedBob. Whatsup? Jan 13 03:37:42 <-- slackd00d has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 03:37:48 Outpour : carefuly. and depends how you installed it. Jan 13 03:37:54 ananke, the new workstation has wake on lan or something or you had someone boot it? Jan 13 03:38:30 nachox, btw.. whats the slackware util to do wake on lan remotely? Jan 13 03:38:33 mortal_: in a nutshell, check that the record source is set to your mic, that its record level is something reasonable. Then cat data from it, and see if its getting anyting. Jan 13 03:38:33 Kyle_S: Not much, just copied 2.6.10 sources to my slackbox and applied the -selinux1 patch to it, getting ready to config it. Jan 13 03:38:45 this is freakin insane...i've been waiting for fc3 to boot up in vmware for almost over 20 min Jan 13 03:38:48 FriedBob: nice. How is 2.6.10 in general? Jan 13 03:38:54 W|GG-Laptop: fc3? Jan 13 03:38:59 ok i hear it now Jan 13 03:39:01 elijah_b/JiMMy-JaKAzz : qmail isn't in the package list Jan 13 03:39:08 fedora core 3 Jan 13 03:39:09 JiMMy-JaKAzz, wake on lan does not deppend on the os youre using iirc Jan 13 03:39:10 Outpour: did you install from source>? Jan 13 03:39:11 Outpour, hmmmmmmmm... Jan 13 03:39:11 it's really scratchy Jan 13 03:39:24 W|GG-Laptop: i gave up on fedora Jan 13 03:39:26 Kyle_S: Dunno, still running 2.6.7. Still waiting on menuconfig for the .10 kernel. Jan 13 03:39:31 nachox : i had it on a different ip. i changed the dhcp server's config, and rebooted both workstations at once. Jan 13 03:39:32 elijah_b yes Jan 13 03:39:33 mortal_: Hey if we got it that far it IS working :) Jan 13 03:39:41 Outpour: if you did, then I suggest reinstalling it but instead of typing make install use checkinstall Jan 13 03:39:44 FriedBob: Whuu? Jan 13 03:39:47 then you can remove the resulting package Jan 13 03:39:49 hehe Jan 13 03:39:50 <-- Neur0 has quit (Connection reset by peer) Jan 13 03:39:53 FriedBob: what hardware is it that menuconfig takes so long? ;) Jan 13 03:39:56 nachox, iirc? Jan 13 03:39:57 did you install it in /usu or /usr/local? Jan 13 03:40:05 Kyle_S: I started it like right before I sat down here. Jan 13 03:40:07 Outpour: in the ./configure parameters Jan 13 03:40:10 and it's a dual P90 Jan 13 03:40:11 "if i recall correctly" Jan 13 03:40:28 FriedBob: Ahh. Jan 13 03:40:40 Kyle_S: Basically, I typed make menuconfig then walked off. Jan 13 03:40:49 elijah_b /usr/local Jan 13 03:40:56 ok then Jan 13 03:41:02 grab the source of qmail again Jan 13 03:41:03 --> bobert (~steve@ppp-66-143-155-96.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:41:04 FriedBob: with a dual p90 you'd kindof have to.... Jan 13 03:41:05 builf it Jan 13 03:41:09 W|GG-Laptop, hmm, i had a windows installing for 25 hours, beat that ;) Jan 13 03:41:11 or be VERY patient. Jan 13 03:41:15 and instead of using make install, try checkinstall Jan 13 03:41:19 JiMMy-JaKAzz: its hard to keep up with nachox's 1337 hacker speak. Jan 13 03:41:22 Outpour, get the package and installpkg Jan 13 03:41:25 checkinstall will create a package that you can remove later Jan 13 03:41:31 lol Jan 13 03:41:33 Kyle_S: But I did edit the Makefile to use -j3 Jan 13 03:41:39 * nachox beats XGizzmo Jan 13 03:41:49 Outpour: or get the official package Jan 13 03:42:01 no rule to make target 'checkinstall'. Stop. Jan 13 03:42:04 FriedBob: ummm -j3? j2 should do it. Jan 13 03:42:08 there's no way in hell a linux distro should be taking almost 30 min just to boot up on a 1.1ghz, 256mb ram machine Jan 13 03:42:13 nachox, lol... what did you use floppies...;) Jan 13 03:42:16 its a package you need to get Jan 13 03:42:19 Outpour: you did it wrong Jan 13 03:42:31 JiMMy-JaKAzz, a box without cache l1 and l2 Jan 13 03:42:34 Outpour: check the slackware cd under /extra Jan 13 03:42:34 i followed the directions precisely as the docs said Jan 13 03:42:35 you do not make checkinstall Jan 13 03:42:35 hell, suse 9.1 took like 30 sec Jan 13 03:42:37 or the ftp Jan 13 03:42:42 you only checkinstall Jan 13 03:42:50 FriedBob: I've had several dulies :) dual PII 333s, dual PII400s, Dual Athlon 1.533ghz Jan 13 03:42:54 <-- okmeufilho has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 03:42:55 Kyle_S: smp.txt from kernel sources says use num procs + 1, the guys in, #selinux, I think, said use num procs x 2. Jan 13 03:43:05 even in vmware Jan 13 03:43:06 if in install the correct package Jan 13 03:43:06 Kyle_S: I hope to get dual G5 soon. Jan 13 03:43:15 FriedBob: wow. They used to say number of procs for the -j value. Jan 13 03:43:19 will it remove the source install when i remove the package? Jan 13 03:43:21 Outpour: the problem is that the official package might be installed in /ur Jan 13 03:43:26 FriedBob: Guess they have changed their opinon. Jan 13 03:43:27 err in /usr, not /usr/local Jan 13 03:43:31 * W|GG-Laptop notes that it sucks when wine goes down the wrong way Jan 13 03:43:35 Outpour: so you will have to rebuild it yourself anyway Jan 13 03:43:48 Kyle_S: IN the 2.6.7 kernel, and possibly the 2.4.26 it's procs + 1 Jan 13 03:43:50 slackware.com doesn't have any qmail packages Jan 13 03:43:55 FriedBob, i always used the number of procs +1 or +2 if you feel lucky Jan 13 03:43:57 W|GG-Laptop: win32 program have a gpf? Jan 13 03:44:00 Outpour: get checkinstall, and the source Jan 13 03:44:00 slackware.net Jan 13 03:44:06 oops Jan 13 03:44:07 no Jan 13 03:44:10 gpf? Jan 13 03:44:12 since the package will be isntalled in /usr Jan 13 03:44:12 linuxpackages.net Jan 13 03:44:13 * nachox doesnt use wine :) Jan 13 03:44:18 FriedBob: I know with the 2.2 and 2.4 kernels the suggest was # of procs. Jan 13 03:44:19 W|GG-Laptop: i have never had the misfortune Jan 13 03:44:30 W|GG-Laptop: general protection fault. Jan 13 03:44:38 elijah_b get checkinstall from where? Jan 13 03:44:41 Outpour: get checkinstall first Jan 13 03:44:42 Kyle_S, i'm using vmware for windows and have installed fedora as a guest OS Jan 13 03:44:43 W|GG-Laptop: Wait.. you meant the drink and not program wine didn't you? Jan 13 03:44:45 freshmeat.net Jan 13 03:44:47 <-- bobert has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 03:44:47 google.com Jan 13 03:44:59 i should go to bed and maybe it'll be finished booting in the morning Jan 13 03:45:02 Outpour, you got the slackware cdrom's? Jan 13 03:45:07 W|GG-Laptop: hehe. Jan 13 03:45:07 JiMMy-JaKAzz yeah Jan 13 03:45:07 check in them Jan 13 03:45:07 orI can give you the exact URL but that would be giving you the answer too easily Jan 13 03:45:15 Kyle_S, yeah, the drink Jan 13 03:45:15 lol Jan 13 03:45:20 how do i add vncserver to start when x windows starts without having to log on ? Jan 13 03:45:20 * nachox wonders why would anyone install fedora Jan 13 03:45:34 JiMMy-JaKAzz: the official packages are installed in /usr Jan 13 03:45:38 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:45:45 so he'll end up with 2 copies of qmail Jan 13 03:45:46 elijah_b, cool Jan 13 03:45:49 W|GG-Laptop: Hehe Oops. Mmmm that makes me remember... I DO have some good bottles waiting for me. Jan 13 03:45:57 * W|GG-Laptop makes it a point to install almost every distro because he thinks it pays to have a bit of knowledge in every distribution Jan 13 03:46:02 can cron check for the existance and/or contents of a file to start/stop a command? Jan 13 03:46:05 ok.. Jan 13 03:46:14 ezrafree: it can Jan 13 03:46:22 nachox: i tried 3 or 4 times different versions each time and finally gave up. Jan 13 03:46:29 W|GG-Laptop: I agree. Jan 13 03:46:35 <-- DarkTide1 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 03:46:35 ananke: BTW, the guy who maintains the SElinux Slackware packages will be releasing a new version soon. Jan 13 03:46:36 ohh, theres a good (perhaps the only) reason Jan 13 03:46:40 elijah_b: where might i find out how to do such a thing Jan 13 03:46:42 --> kspud (~sure@ip68-102-246-114.ks.ok.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:46:54 Kyle_S, got the job? Jan 13 03:46:56 i can give oyu an example Jan 13 03:46:58 I had some nice merlot tonight. Jan 13 03:47:02 ezrafree: do you want one? Jan 13 03:47:07 --> DarkTide_ (~nerd@dialup-4.156.99.165.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:47:07 elijah_b: that would be most appreciated Jan 13 03:47:12 yes i'd love one :) Jan 13 03:47:17 FriedBob, how old? Jan 13 03:47:25 --> michaelks (~michael@200164210228.user.veloxzone.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:47:33 just a second Jan 13 03:47:42 take your time Jan 13 03:47:46 <-- octavious has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 13 03:47:48 <-- Kyle_S_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 03:48:12 JiMMy-JaKAzz: The wine? Not very. I think it was a 2002 Casarsa Jan 13 03:48:32 nachox: job? Which Job? Jan 13 03:48:34 * Kyle_S sighs Jan 13 03:48:40 nachox: I have got no job :( Jan 13 03:48:58 Kyle_S: Want one of mine? I have 2. Jan 13 03:49:02 if [ -f /usr/local/bin/bla ]; then Jan 13 03:49:12 Jan 13 03:49:18 fi Jan 13 03:49:23 ? Jan 13 03:49:27 Kyle_S, but you were looking for one and i though that maybe you got an answer Jan 13 03:49:41 ezrafree: be sure to put #!/bin/sh at the top of your script Jan 13 03:49:42 FriedBob, cool.. age doesnt really matter I guess. Little lady and myself are daily wineos. She is more the coneseur Jan 13 03:49:53 ezrafree: and rename it .sh too, chmod +x Jan 13 03:49:55 nachox: Sadly nope, none. Jan 13 03:50:06 FriedBob: Hehe ok ;) does the spare one pay OK? Jan 13 03:50:06 JiMMy-JaKAzz the cds don't have it on there Jan 13 03:50:18 thr1ce: run command if file exist. Jan 13 03:50:26 still waiting Jan 13 03:50:27 JiMMy-JaKAzz: We normally just have it with our friday night meal, but we had an open bottle, so had some tonight Jan 13 03:50:29 dayam Jan 13 03:50:29 Outpour: google has it? Jan 13 03:50:36 Kyle_S: $5.5/hr :/ Jan 13 03:50:44 elijah_b: thank you very much :) Jan 13 03:50:45 W|GG-Laptop, hmmm, youre sure nothing hanged? Jan 13 03:50:49 ezrafree: np Jan 13 03:50:51 FriedBob: Ugh. Jan 13 03:50:53 elijah_b im i looking for the package? or a the source? Jan 13 03:51:03 the source Jan 13 03:51:03 W|GG-Laptop: on the vmware boot? Jan 13 03:51:05 yeah, its going...drive light activity out the yingyang Jan 13 03:51:08 elijah_b because i havent deleted the source yet, so i still have it Jan 13 03:51:10 Outpour, elijah_b mentioned its in the /usr directory Jan 13 03:51:11 freshmeat.net has it Jan 13 03:51:22 no, he needs checkinstall Jan 13 03:51:26 Kyle_S: No joke. Other job, I start tuesday. Pays better, but real limited hours, and is federal work study. Jan 13 03:51:28 is checkinstall a file? Jan 13 03:51:36 then he can proceed to recompile qmail Jan 13 03:51:38 it'll be in /extra of any local slackware mirror Jan 13 03:51:40 it's a program Jan 13 03:51:43 FriedBob: problem is your not in the chicagoland area. Jan 13 03:51:44 i'd understand if X was running under vmware, as fedora uses gnome...but dayam, x hasn't even started yet...not even close Jan 13 03:51:44 oh ok Jan 13 03:51:48 freshmeat.net Jan 13 03:51:48 Kyle_S, yeah Jan 13 03:51:50 search for it Jan 13 03:51:52 i am Jan 13 03:52:04 Kyle_S: True. However, I do know some people up there. Probably not the sort of work you'd want though. Jan 13 03:52:04 * thr1ce thought it was "damn" Jan 13 03:52:12 checkinstall is a script Jan 13 03:52:30 thr1ce: regional variation. Jan 13 03:52:36 :) Jan 13 03:52:38 W|GG-Laptop, its only booting? reboot the box and use the interactive booting, disable everything :P Jan 13 03:52:55 a script... ok Jan 13 03:52:56 will it work if i do "make setup check" instead of make install ? Jan 13 03:53:01 FriedBob: what is it? Jan 13 03:53:02 <-- mortal_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 03:53:10 Outpour: no you need checkinstall to create a package Jan 13 03:53:15 OK this is just weird. The "tutorial" on the mysql page isn't working.... Jan 13 03:53:17 ive gone this far, i'll wait a bit longer...thanks for the interactive tip though...gonna try that Jan 13 03:53:21 thr1ce: phonetic spelling Jan 13 03:53:21 Outpour: you will actually do checkinstall instead of make install Jan 13 03:53:26 Kyle_S: It'd probably involve running the streets or something else. But it'd pay well, and in cash. Jan 13 03:53:52 FriedBob: Ohh, so your selling crack to the CIA? Jan 13 03:53:54 s/to/for Jan 13 03:54:01 <-- DarkTide has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 13 03:54:18 --- gTool-Kit is now known as HeatHawk Jan 13 03:54:30 Kyle_S, pays alot that... hmmmmmmmmm... Jan 13 03:54:47 Kyle_S: Me? No. But like I said, I know people. One of whom owns a private club downtown(ish). I coulda had a job as a bouncer, if I lived up there. Jan 13 03:54:55 JiMMy-JaKAzz: hehe. Jan 13 03:55:11 big cash in less the time.. Jan 13 03:55:18 FriedBob: I'm not quite bouncer sized, or personalitied. Jan 13 03:55:24 or shaped. Jan 13 03:55:27 elijah_b how do i install the "Slackware binary package" (ext .tgz) ? Jan 13 03:55:29 but longtime if caught.. ;) Jan 13 03:55:45 Outpour: installpkg???? Jan 13 03:55:46 Outpour: installpkg package.tgz Jan 13 03:55:59 Outpour: installpkg Jan 13 03:56:01 Kyle_S: I'm not that big myself. I do, when I want to, have the right attitude/personality though. Jan 13 03:56:07 ah ok gotcha Jan 13 03:56:08 Kyle_S: Seen Roadhouse? Jan 13 03:56:22 FriedBob: Yes. Jan 13 03:56:25 --> ptlo (~senko@cmung51.cmu.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:56:31 A long long time ago on a date far far away. Jan 13 03:56:35 FriedBob, how bout once we're warriors.. Jan 13 03:56:41 * Kyle_S wasn't overly impressed with the movie. Jan 13 03:56:53 Kyle_S: Tis a great one, been a long time since I seen it. Jan 13 03:56:55 JiMMy-JaKAzz: now that movie was more interesting. Jan 13 03:57:05 JiMMy-JaKAzz: Not sure I've ever even heard of it. Jan 13 03:57:24 ok installed checkinstall, then i tried to do "make checkinstall" for qmail and i get the same error (no rule to make target..) Jan 13 03:57:26 Kyle_S, FriedBob pretty intense Jan 13 03:57:33 <-- robs_laptop (~rob@wbar5.tmp1-4-4-102-092.tmp1.dsl-verizon.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 13 03:57:39 Outpour: no Jan 13 03:57:40 Outpour: ./configure, make, checkinstall Jan 13 03:57:59 --> Neur0 (~nick@210.50.246.7) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 03:58:33 I should start my kernel compiling soon. I suspect it'll still be compiling come morning, otherwise. Jan 13 03:58:39 trying to mount ntfs partition.. error message "no mount point doesnt exist" ??? Jan 13 03:58:46 and type checkinstall as root Jan 13 03:59:09 created /mnt/mountpoint-name/ Jan 13 03:59:22 but still nothing.. any ideas? Jan 13 03:59:38 logs logs logs? Jan 13 04:00:50 --> At0mic_PC` (1000@host-216-77-193-77.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:01:00 OK anyone know of a website that just has info on PURE sql, with no extentsion BS? Jan 13 04:02:25 Kyle_S, got me.. you probably heard it before ... but try googling it? Jan 13 04:02:47 JiMMy-JaKAzz: yea I've heard that answer before ;) Jan 13 04:02:52 lol Jan 13 04:03:09 JiMMy-JaKAzz: if you google for it the best you can get is wikipedia. Jan 13 04:03:21 Kyle_S, ouch! Jan 13 04:03:30 --> DarkTide (~nerd@dialup-4.156.102.234.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:03:43 bah. how do i set irssi's dcc send port. the dcc_port variable doesnt seem to work.... Jan 13 04:04:38 aha Jan 13 04:04:43 all that just to get rid of it Jan 13 04:04:44 --> slackd00d (~edson@c-24-19-219-0.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:05:01 Kyle_S: http://docs.rinet.ru/ANSI_SQL/ Jan 13 04:05:02 Outpour, slowly but surely.. Jan 13 04:05:04 Outpour: did it work> Jan 13 04:05:11 FriedBob: nice. Jan 13 04:05:14 Outpour: in the future ALWAYS use checkinstall Jan 13 04:05:23 well checkinstall insalled the package fine Jan 13 04:05:28 and no errors when removing it Jan 13 04:05:32 cool Jan 13 04:05:35 it's gone then Jan 13 04:05:38 thank god Jan 13 04:05:42 qmail can go to hell Jan 13 04:05:46 Kyle_S: 3rd hit for "ansi sql" on google. Jan 13 04:05:46 lol Jan 13 04:05:49 <-- Outpour has quit ("Abandon Hope, all ye who enter messages here.") Jan 13 04:05:49 try postfix Jan 13 04:06:01 --> Outpour (~outpour@66.219.118.66.brainstorminternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:06:06 oops wrong command Jan 13 04:06:13 now i am gonna try postfix Jan 13 04:06:14 anyone good with dhcpcd? Jan 13 04:06:14 FriedBob: Heh I searched pure sql howto, and ansi sql howto... probably why I didn't find it. Jan 13 04:06:17 elijah_b: i just realized something, i should probably also check in my .sh script to see if the program is already running or not... Jan 13 04:06:23 true Jan 13 04:06:30 otherwise i will just keep starting it over and over :) Jan 13 04:06:33 juice, not good but .. shoot! Jan 13 04:06:35 want me to tell you how to do that too? Jan 13 04:06:37 Kyle_S: Funny how one word can make such a huge difference, huh? Jan 13 04:06:38 ezrafree: sec Jan 13 04:06:41 if you don't mind Jan 13 04:06:46 FriedBob: Guess when searching its best to use the simplest search arround. Jan 13 04:06:46 need to know where dhcp looks when it requests the address Jan 13 04:06:50 thanks elijah_b Jan 13 04:06:51 is in the info.old Jan 13 04:06:54 on a reboot Jan 13 04:07:09 Kyle_S: Start simple and then add bits if you need to refine, I've found. Jan 13 04:07:22 juice: where it looks? Jan 13 04:07:26 juice, what do you mean? Jan 13 04:07:46 ok my adress used to always be 101 Jan 13 04:07:50 now it ends in 108 Jan 13 04:07:52 and 109 Jan 13 04:07:54 <-- InphraRed has quit ("TE) (Swing them udders") Jan 13 04:08:01 something keeps making me get kicked off Jan 13 04:08:05 when i have 108 Jan 13 04:08:12 --> _paco_ (1000@chello212017083201.10.15.vie.surfer.at) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:08:12 i wanna stay at 101 Jan 13 04:08:12 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@chello212017083201.10.15.vie.surfer.at Jan 13 04:08:13 <-- nixor has kicked _paco_ from ##slackware (banned: panasync - ctcp flood / trolling) Jan 13 04:08:17 juice, your dhcp server no? sending addy out? Jan 13 04:08:24 FriedBob: actually the more I look at that document, the more I see it doesn't really help ;) Jan 13 04:08:28 --> InphraRed (~admin@adsl-63-204-104-176.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:08:28 juice, make it static Jan 13 04:08:30 but I'm getting there. Jan 13 04:08:38 Kyle_S: It's a start, I guess. Jan 13 04:08:42 netconfig ethx Jan 13 04:09:12 * Kyle_S nods Jan 13 04:09:19 I think I've found some stuff now... Jan 13 04:09:29 juice, follow step by step and choose static when you reach it. Jan 13 04:09:34 <-- nachox has quit ("brb") Jan 13 04:09:47 nah Jan 13 04:09:53 I need dhcpcp Jan 13 04:09:56 err Jan 13 04:09:59 I will tinker with it Jan 13 04:10:05 thanks thought Jan 13 04:10:10 <-- InphraRed (~admin@adsl-63-204-104-176.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) has left ##slackware Jan 13 04:10:14 --> InphraRed (~admin@adsl-63-204-104-176.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:10:27 um Jan 13 04:10:30 juice, rc.inet1.conf.. check that Jan 13 04:10:31 what's the deal with "##slackware" as opposed to "#slackware"? Jan 13 04:10:35 juice: you need to config dhcpd to give your mac address the ip you want Jan 13 04:10:46 now that would work Jan 13 04:11:19 I need a new dsl modem Jan 13 04:11:30 TheBeast, ebay. Jan 13 04:11:35 TheBeast your DSL provider should give you a new one. Jan 13 04:11:43 InphraRed: I have my own Jan 13 04:11:46 a speedtouch 510 v4 Jan 13 04:11:50 whatever Jan 13 04:11:51 wtf do people keep asking that fore Jan 13 04:11:52 for Jan 13 04:11:53 dayam Jan 13 04:11:54 --> chodapp (1000@blackbird-day-216-68-113-111.fuse.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:11:55 s stupid router/modem Jan 13 04:12:03 juice: Jan 13 04:12:04 <-- DarkTide_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 04:12:05 host Slacker { Jan 13 04:12:05 hardware ethernet 00:50:ba:c7:94:7c; Jan 13 04:12:05 fixed-address 169.254.1.8; Jan 13 04:12:05 } Jan 13 04:12:05 <-- nixor has kicked XGizzmo from ##slackware (flood) Jan 13 04:12:06 --> XGizzmo (~gizzmo@xgizzmo.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:12:07 read freenode's policies and you'll understand Jan 13 04:12:29 --> newbie`` (1000@dsl81-214-61832.adsl.ttnet.net.tr) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:12:41 InphraRed, check the topic's links and it'll explain...the concept has been around awhile, so this is nothing new to #freenode Jan 13 04:12:41 --> ^dev (~dev@bgp01014816bgs.rosvle01.mi.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:13:22 is there a postfix package eh? Jan 13 04:13:36 gotta split... thanks for the help guys.. talk later.. cheers! Jan 13 04:13:39 Outpour: yes Jan 13 04:13:40 --> gTool-Kit (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:13:44 thanks JiMMy-JaKAzz Jan 13 04:13:48 Outpour: but it's also easy to compile Jan 13 04:13:50 np Jan 13 04:13:55 <-- JiMMy-JaKAzz (~JiMMy-JaK@HSE-Montreal-ppp3474474.sympatico.ca) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 13 04:13:55 <-- HeatHawk has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 04:14:28 XGizzmo: dhcpd issues? Jan 13 04:14:46 --> Equinox666 (~fred@dsl-161.221.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:15:30 hello Jan 13 04:15:56 <-- At0mic_PC has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 04:15:59 elijah_b: not me Jan 13 04:16:12 is there a slackware 10 package for gnome 2.8 yet? Jan 13 04:16:22 to use with pkgtool Jan 13 04:16:36 Equinox666: not from slackware Jan 13 04:17:10 i just wanted to update to gnome 2.8 but i'm not sure how lol Jan 13 04:18:25 Equinox666: i am sure there are packages somewhere but use at your own risk Jan 13 04:18:46 <-- ^dev has quit ("leaving") Jan 13 04:18:56 ah i'm not worried about that, i'm adept at reinstalling linux :) LOL. Jan 13 04:19:14 ta Jan 13 04:19:17 <-- Equinox666 has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 04:20:48 --> KruMn (~KloS@127tdev11.codetel.net.do) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:20:55 FriedBob: I've found a good one (seems to have a bit of db2 stuff, but still fairly general) Jan 13 04:20:58 03:06 < Kyle_S> but I'm getting there. Jan 13 04:21:01 https://aurora.vcu.edu/db2help/db2s0/frame3.htm Jan 13 04:21:01 <-- slackd00d has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 04:21:12 And I really HATE it when I forget I can't just select text and paste it in windos. Jan 13 04:21:18 hi, can you send me your iptables configuration? Jan 13 04:21:27 sutpid ctrl c ctrl v Jan 13 04:21:30 KruMn: who? Jan 13 04:21:40 <-- IronBob has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 04:21:40 to learn Jan 13 04:21:48 'GRRR, i highlited you for a REASON!!' Jan 13 04:21:49 Kyle_S: I agree, the win32 buffer is really clumsy Jan 13 04:22:13 --> slackd00d (~edson@c-24-19-219-0.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:22:19 if i have a regged domain using my ISPs domain servers so that the domain resolves to my IP, how do i set it up so something like sub.domain.tld is "redirected" to another machine inside my LAN Jan 13 04:22:21 --- gTool-Kit is now known as HeatHawk Jan 13 04:22:21 I have grown to dislike the win32 environment Jan 13 04:22:23 ?* Jan 13 04:22:28 KruMn: there are tons of firewall / iptables howto's on the net try google Jan 13 04:22:28 * Kyle_S really needs to get a good job so he can start paying somone to make a psychic user interface. Jan 13 04:22:43 XGizzmo, ok, thx Jan 13 04:22:54 --> AeroFoam (~aerofoam@dsl.dyn.01-45.budget.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:24:06 <-- KruMn has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 04:24:16 how do i modify how do i make rc.4 run *BEFORE* rc.M Jan 13 04:25:25 --- newbie`` is now known as newbie^ Jan 13 04:26:25 sunbx : why would you want that? Jan 13 04:26:40 if you have to ask that, most likely you don't know what you're doing, and you shouldn't be doing it Jan 13 04:27:20 <-- ptlo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 04:27:26 sunbx: you do know all run level 4 does is start kdm / gdm or some othe desktop manager Jan 13 04:27:50 do you know something about kind of a movie player pkg for slack current ? Jan 13 04:28:14 XGizzmo i know that, Jan 13 04:28:19 TheBeast: mplayer Jan 13 04:28:20 what about totem Jan 13 04:28:28 xine Jan 13 04:28:41 At0mic_PC`: and where can I find a pkg for that ? Jan 13 04:28:55 www.linuxpackages.net Jan 13 04:29:45 yes, but those are not made for -current Jan 13 04:29:51 sunbx: the better way to do it might be to start your vnc server from rc.local Jan 13 04:30:01 <-- _kop_ has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 13 04:30:05 If you're running current then you probally should know how to compile it yourself. Jan 13 04:30:26 Kyle_S: Heh. I try to do that all the time (re: select/paste) Jan 13 04:30:42 ananke: See my comments about SELinux+ slack earlier? Jan 13 04:30:47 And the mplayer for 10 should work with current. Jan 13 04:30:48 For sure I know how to compile it by my self, but i'm lazy Jan 13 04:30:48 XGizzmo i solved all my problems with X and vnc . i just want to run rc.4 beforce rc.M Jan 13 04:31:37 before* Jan 13 04:31:46 why? Jan 13 04:32:29 <-- At0mic_PC` has quit ("Client exciting") Jan 13 04:32:33 estetical reasons Jan 13 04:32:33 ;) Jan 13 04:33:13 --> straterra (~straterra@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:33:14 uhm....i'm not helping (and i doubt anyone will) without a reason why first Jan 13 04:33:19 sunbx: half of you system will not be running Jan 13 04:33:24 night Jan 13 04:33:27 because we usually don't help blow up boxes Jan 13 04:33:33 Ooooh? Jan 13 04:33:36 <-- TheBeast has quit ("I'm not the one you want, I'm the one you need.") Jan 13 04:33:39 XGizzmo why ? because is a reorder ? Jan 13 04:34:13 sunbx: there is a reason things are started in the order that they are. Jan 13 04:34:23 yes, there's a reason there's an order to the scripts booting Jan 13 04:34:29 damn Jan 13 04:34:35 :) Jan 13 04:34:37 ok Jan 13 04:34:38 :) Jan 13 04:34:47 --> mortal_ (~mortal@adsl-81-128-59.mgm.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:34:48 W|GG-Laptop: Does that mean I shouldn't be handing out floppy-sized/shaped samples of C4 here? Jan 13 04:34:56 lol Jan 13 04:35:38 FriedBob: just hold off on the det cord leashes. Jan 13 04:35:46 how do i format /dev/hda3 in fat32? Jan 13 04:36:03 XGizzmo: No det cord, just insert and mount or otherwise try to access. Jan 13 04:36:27 BTW, something I saw at hottopic inspired me. Jan 13 04:36:58 dang it ... Jan 13 04:37:03 that didn't work Jan 13 04:37:17 mortal_, mkfs.vfat Jan 13 04:37:24 ah Jan 13 04:37:35 straterra, is it compatible with windows? Jan 13 04:37:50 <-- Roa has quit ("fugaaaaaaaaaa") Jan 13 04:37:55 mortal_, should be Jan 13 04:37:57 I'm trying to create a middleman btw linux and windows Jan 13 04:38:12 You should also change your partition table Jan 13 04:38:18 So that it says its Fat32 Jan 13 04:38:21 --> Cymdeithas (~rufus@dhcp-0-50-da-80-ef-b2.cpe.cabletv.on.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:38:29 But I think I'mma go smoke. Jan 13 04:38:45 straterra, all i have is mkfs.msdos Jan 13 04:38:52 man mkfs then Jan 13 04:38:54 anybody in here besides me Canadian? Jan 13 04:38:57 k Jan 13 04:39:06 Cyberjames: yeah some are Jan 13 04:39:26 Cymdeithas: Jan 13 04:39:32 jsut checking Jan 13 04:39:40 you guys ever got flamed for being Canadian? Jan 13 04:39:47 i joined a channel Jan 13 04:39:57 and the minute i joined Jan 13 04:39:59 if you're canadian AND a troll, yeah Jan 13 04:40:01 hehe Jan 13 04:40:02 i got flamed Jan 13 04:40:02 j/k Jan 13 04:40:15 i was like wtf? Jan 13 04:40:16 Cymdeithas, that's the story of most IRC channels Jan 13 04:40:32 i came in here to fix NAT issues (insert client name here) Jan 13 04:40:44 yeah but on FreeNode?! Jan 13 04:40:50 i mean wtf?! Jan 13 04:40:51 Cymdeithas: if you get flamed because of your nationality then maybe you dont need to be in that channel Jan 13 04:40:54 lol...yes Jan 13 04:40:59 it's the most tolerable IRC network i have ever seen Jan 13 04:41:00 even on freenode Jan 13 04:41:08 XGizzmo, yeah i left Jan 13 04:41:10 freenode IS irc, right? Jan 13 04:41:26 Yes.. Jan 13 04:41:38 Cymdeithas: This is ##slackware, we're all too lazy to flame w/o a good reason. ;P Jan 13 04:41:41 last i checked yes..... but whoa.. never been flamed on freenode for anything other then being a newbie Jan 13 04:41:41 ive seen totally anal channels on this server before Jan 13 04:41:46 some weird sit i tell ya Jan 13 04:41:57 FriedBob, yeah good point Jan 13 04:42:19 well, it's just bad karma is all Jan 13 04:42:27 * FriedBob finishes his glass of wine and goes outside to smoke his pipe. Jan 13 04:42:50 Anyone interested in seeing the output of time for compiling 2.6.10 on dual P90s using -j3 ? Jan 13 04:43:04 paste away Jan 13 04:43:12 * W|GG-Laptop is going to smoke then go to bed Jan 13 04:43:27 Cymdeithas: You'll have to wait a few hours, I just started it, maybe half an hour or so ago. Jan 13 04:43:38 k Jan 13 04:43:46 Cymdeithas: Check with me tomorrow morning or afternoon. It might be done then. Jan 13 04:43:48 --- Cymdeithas is now known as Meddylgar Jan 13 04:43:52 LOL! Jan 13 04:44:09 under mkfs.msdos [-f number-of-FATs] <-- should i do -f 32 here? Jan 13 04:44:16 I'm expecting 13 to 18 hours, honestly. Jan 13 04:44:33 i have yet to compile my own kernel Jan 13 04:44:44 I do it all the time. Jan 13 04:44:53 anybody get an nFORCE2 working on any of thier machines Jan 13 04:45:04 i have both audio and network on my MB i can't get them working Jan 13 04:45:05 This time, I'm going from 2.6.7 to 2.6.10-selinux1 Jan 13 04:45:27 FriedBob, whats the advantage of SE linux? Jan 13 04:45:37 Bed Time...Latre Jan 13 04:45:43 later Jan 13 04:45:48 SE = security enhanced Jan 13 04:45:50 heh Jan 13 04:46:14 <-- straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 04:46:15 emm... i thought that stood for Secret Entrances Jan 13 04:46:24 <-- _Hitek_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 04:46:55 you want secret entrances in your install? Jan 13 04:46:56 lol Jan 13 04:47:13 i'm assuming you want security enhancement thought Jan 13 04:47:14 though Jan 13 04:50:08 --> smoke__ (~smoke@adsl-69-225-25-235.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:50:13 <-- Neur0 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 04:50:27 hi guys, how do i get my modules to autoload? for some reason they're not autoloading in /etc/modprobe.conf Jan 13 04:51:34 <-- mortal_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 04:51:44 smoke_: 2.6.x kernel? Jan 13 04:51:58 BBIAB, pipe time. Jan 13 04:53:04 yeah Jan 13 04:53:06 2.6.10 Jan 13 04:54:17 <-- newbie^ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 04:54:55 --> Destructo (~ZapBranni@pool-68-161-113-196.ny325.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 04:55:24 hey anyone have slack on their laptop Jan 13 04:55:38 me Jan 13 04:55:44 on 2 laptops, actually Jan 13 04:56:06 Redb3ard during the first part after entering ROOT .. did you activate PCMCIA Jan 13 04:56:25 Destructo, u dont need to unless u need to install media from a pcmcia card. Jan 13 04:56:28 cdrrom imean Jan 13 04:56:45 ? Jan 13 04:56:52 * Meddylgar sits in slackware and basks in opensource tolerance Jan 13 04:56:58 ahhhhhhh good people reside here Jan 13 04:57:01 <-- smoke__ has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 04:57:24 <-- AeroFoam has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 04:58:38 yeh, i did Jan 13 04:58:56 its never been a problem for me, on machines that actually have pcmcia Jan 13 04:59:22 i had a desktop that had a pcmcia card, and that would hang, unless it was disabled Jan 13 05:00:44 --> keanne (~riken@mnc02.mei.co.jp) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:01:33 <-- keanne (~riken@mnc02.mei.co.jp) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 13 05:01:38 --> keanne (~riken@mnc02.mei.co.jp) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:02:08 ##slackware? Jan 13 05:02:27 probably alot of bots or something Jan 13 05:02:30 ? Jan 13 05:02:35 no idea keanne Jan 13 05:02:49 something to do with channel owning policies Jan 13 05:03:19 Meddylgar, me too, actually, this is the first time i saw a channel having 2 # :) Jan 13 05:03:39 if you join #slackware you end up here anyway Jan 13 05:03:46 aye Jan 13 05:04:12 I say bollocks Jan 13 05:04:14 --> nachox (~nacho@200-122-57-213.dsl.prima.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:04:20 thats what i say Jan 13 05:04:25 keanne i think its the first time youve noticed Jan 13 05:05:20 <-- kspud has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 05:05:35 --> adjacent (~scott@63.209.153.101) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:05:38 Destructo, hmm...maybe, there's a possibility Jan 13 05:05:49 keanne, ? Jan 13 05:05:58 where is chandler Jan 13 05:06:09 no idea Jan 13 05:06:18 Meddylgar, why? Jan 13 05:06:29 <-- skitz0|work has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 05:06:48 sorry i wasn't reading properly nevermind Jan 13 05:08:23 --> Neur0 (~nick@211.27.113.82) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:10:04 --> AeroFoam (~aerofoam@68-185-0-156.or.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:10:06 <-- Meddylgar has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 05:11:04 if i have a regged domain using my ISPs domain servers so that the domain resolves to my IP, how do i set it up so something like sub.domain.tld is "redirected" to another machine inside my LAN? Jan 13 05:11:05 <-- FriedBob has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 05:11:44 omg Jan 13 05:11:53 the ipod site says "do not eat ipod shuffle" Jan 13 05:12:00 as one of the disclaimers Jan 13 05:12:15 who the heck is going to freaking eat it? Jan 13 05:12:53 --> three_11 (~three_11@69-163-15-87.kntnny.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:13:01 i would. then noone can steal my iPod. Jan 13 05:15:15 * InphraRed is away [autogone:10/l:off] Jan 13 05:15:19 hi Jan 13 05:18:29 anyone have experience with the iRiver H10 Jan 13 05:18:43 --> kossy (k0s@connection.refused.us) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:20:11 <-- Tukon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 05:24:04 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:25:23 <-- Tukon has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 05:27:49 qemu does not start , is freezez. any idea why ? Jan 13 05:28:18 --> viLeR (~miv@aurora.telesat.com.co) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:30:23 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:31:48 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:31:57 <-- mheath has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 05:32:06 what kernel did you use for your laptop .. barei or bareacpi Jan 13 05:32:21 * FriedBob grumbles. DSL went out for a bit. Jan 13 05:34:45 <-- nachox has quit ("sleep(1);") Jan 13 05:36:36 --> octavious (100@pcp05921128pcs.sprgfd01.mi.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:36:43 <-- michaelks has quit () Jan 13 05:36:56 --> jabooty (~ebates@63.78.28.225) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:38:22 nada Jan 13 05:38:43 when a program has the option to be forked to the background on startup, what does that mean? Jan 13 05:38:44 --> Pechorin (~cabrilo@adsl-66-139-120-80.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:38:58 if I'm making a new commercial product, and want to use some GPLed and BSD products is it enough if i release partial code of the product? (I mean only relase the modification to those projects but keeping the code of the system administer of the packages? Jan 13 05:40:37 noDLL: first, we are not lawers :) Jan 13 05:41:09 noDLL: second, if those projects are used in WHOLE within your product, its easy and its all OK. Release the GPL code, and cite the BSD code. Jan 13 05:41:19 if your using bits and peices here and there, it would get more complicated. Jan 13 05:41:49 and do your homework. go visit www.gnu.org, www.groklaw.net, etc Jan 13 05:41:58 and of course if I"m wrong and you get sued, FriedBob will be held responsible. Jan 13 05:41:59 Kyle_S: we are using whole proucts Jan 13 05:42:34 thanks ananke i'll check the second link Jan 13 05:42:47 --> kspud (~sure@ip68-102-246-114.ks.ok.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:42:49 and remember, its FriedBob's fault if we are wrong! Jan 13 05:42:51 the gnu one was just checked before :) Jan 13 05:43:10 lol Jan 13 05:43:16 gnu.org/groklaw.net should set up a scenario/case page Jan 13 05:43:24 i will remember that no problem hehe Jan 13 05:43:40 with just some basic and common scenarios, and basic easy to understand explanations Jan 13 05:43:44 --> yanger (1001@yanger.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:44:28 if i see flicking horizontal lines, does that mean I have hsync set too high? Jan 13 05:44:30 ananke: I've never used groklaw, is it just software law, or does it cover other things? Jan 13 05:44:36 * Kyle_S actually has some stuff to lookup. Jan 13 05:44:38 Kyle_S: But of course, wouldn't want it any other way. Jan 13 05:44:41 hi kyle :) Jan 13 05:44:43 FriedBob: :) Jan 13 05:44:46 hey yanger Jan 13 05:44:46 --> nullvalue (~echelon@ool-43576ba8.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:44:54 thanks is jsut that with all that license thinks we get confused hehe Jan 13 05:44:58 Kyle_S : i think mostly software laws/cases/etc Jan 13 05:44:58 what cd burning tools does slackware come with? :-S Jan 13 05:45:08 Kyle_S: It's mostly about SCO vs *, and some MS stuff, but it has some amazing resources and tools for searching case law. Jan 13 05:45:12 i'm on slackware 10 Jan 13 05:45:15 nullvalue use k3b :) it's fun Jan 13 05:45:23 i don't seem to have it :-S Jan 13 05:45:28 PJ is an awesome journalist and paralegal. Jan 13 05:45:28 grab it from linuxpackages.net Jan 13 05:45:30 ananke/FriedBob ahh ok. Jan 13 05:45:37 where's it supposed to be? Jan 13 05:45:46 oh ok Jan 13 05:45:54 i thought it came with it? Jan 13 05:45:59 k3b is in /extras Jan 13 05:46:10 I wanted to lookup if it was legal to take photos of the covers of books for use on a non-profit textbook trading site. Jan 13 05:46:19 <-- jabooty (~ebates@63.78.28.225) has left ##slackware Jan 13 05:46:28 XGizzmo, thanks! :) Jan 13 05:46:28 * Kyle_S needs some projects to his name, so he thought of it, and is writing it and his old proff is gonna stick it up ;) Jan 13 05:47:04 Kyle_S: Possibly, places like Amazon and B&K do that, but I don't know what their legal dept had to do. Jan 13 05:47:26 FriedBob: probably they just threatened anyone who complained ;) I don't have the muscle to do that. Jan 13 05:47:31 Not sure if that would fall under "fair use" or not. Jan 13 05:47:44 hey any laptop users here .. just trying to see if i should iuse barei or bareacpui Jan 13 05:47:50 bareacpi Jan 13 05:48:11 Destructo : uhmm, that depends. i usually use bare.i Jan 13 05:48:15 if i have a regged domain using my ISPs domain servers so that the domain resolves to my IP, how do i set up BIND so something like sub.domain.tld is "redirected" to another machine inside my LAN? Jan 13 05:48:17 k thanks Jan 13 05:48:21 This is OT, but I'll take it out of the channel if anyone responds. Anyone knowledgable in diesels? Jan 13 05:48:42 ananke hey crazyhors has been looking for you for days.. Jan 13 05:48:45 Destructo: use the standard one to install, if it works, then bare.i if it doesnt THEN bareacpi....and then build a kernel specific to your laptop once its all up and running. Jan 13 05:48:50 <-- HeatHawk has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 05:48:52 Destructo : and i'm here. Jan 13 05:49:10 Outpour, just set the hostnames in /etc/hosts Jan 13 05:49:28 Kyle_S: I'd suggest you find someone who teaches business law or some other type of law, and talk to them, but only way to get a "real" legal opinion is to hire an lawyer and ask him, or find one willing to talk for free. Jan 13 05:49:29 Putz: what do you mean? Jan 13 05:49:43 192.168.100.100 host.yourdomain.com host Jan 13 05:49:47 on the BIND server Jan 13 05:49:55 well, the machine running BIND Jan 13 05:50:04 the IP is the addresss of.. the BIND sevrer? Jan 13 05:50:12 the IP is the address of the target Jan 13 05:50:17 <-- yanger (1001@yanger.user) has left ##slackware Jan 13 05:50:41 <-- dadexter has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 05:50:42 FriedBob: trust me, the grad school at my old uni woudln't produce lawers good enough to spell "fair-use", let alone tell me if what I want to do falls under it ;) Jan 13 05:51:21 * Kyle_S will probably write the page with the option to use images of the textbooks, but not enable it when it goes live. Jan 13 05:51:52 Kyle_S : it's 'lawyers' not 'lawers' :) Jan 13 05:51:57 Putz: do i need to edit my /var/named/file ? Jan 13 05:52:03 ananke: Case in point about his school ;P Jan 13 05:52:13 ananke: Heh, I can' ttype at this time of night. Jan 13 05:52:20 * Kyle_S swears its the keyboard..thats it, the keyboard! Jan 13 05:52:29 Kyle_S : that's the second time you misstyped it, i figured there must be a pattern :) Jan 13 05:52:47 nite slackers Jan 13 05:52:59 ananke: there is a pattern to my typing, it ends up not always hitting the key the right way on some keyboards. probably a result of me switching keyboards too often. Jan 13 05:53:06 --> jmedina (~jmedina@209.205.213.234) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:53:09 ..and not using an irc with a builtin spellchecker. Jan 13 05:53:26 spellcheckers are for sissies :) anyway, i agree about the keyboards Jan 13 05:54:37 well here i go .. lets see what happens Jan 13 05:54:39 I'm looking for either a diesel S-10, or if I can't find one, an engine to put into an S-10 body. Jan 13 05:54:41 hmm, looks like i'll have to set up next week a $15k ink jet printer... Jan 13 05:54:45 <-- ^Jenn has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 05:55:04 i wonder if cups can deal with it Jan 13 05:55:25 <-- m-00kie has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 05:55:26 --> ^Jenn (~jenn@jenn-0000002.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:55:29 ananke: 15K for an INK JET printer? Can it make coffee too? Jan 13 05:55:31 --> ximpul_methods (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:55:32 damn it it froze at .. hotplug Jan 13 05:55:34 wnayone? Jan 13 05:55:37 Outpour, mabe Jan 13 05:55:37 anyone? Jan 13 05:55:42 --> m-00kie (3704558@pcp0010383411pcs.arlngt01.va.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:55:43 --> ApSeLiCo (~Jorge@200.106.94.240) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:55:45 I don't know Jan 13 05:55:45 <-- ximpul has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 05:55:46 ximpul_methods what Jan 13 05:55:52 * ximpul_methods sighs Jan 13 05:55:54 FriedBob : it prints on a 42" wide paper. the paper comes on 150' spools :) Jan 13 05:56:01 I go to bed, later Jan 13 05:56:06 <-- chodapp has quit () Jan 13 05:56:18 ananke: Ahh. So it's for in-plant, not "just a printer". Jan 13 05:56:21 anyone running superkaramba w/liquid_weather on xfce4 ? Jan 13 05:56:34 thanks Putz Jan 13 05:56:41 got somewhere heh Jan 13 05:57:32 --- ximpul_methods is now known as ximpul Jan 13 05:57:35 FriedBob : yeah http://www.designjet.hp.com/Fall2004/4000_announce.html Jan 13 05:57:45 hm when i 'dig mydomain.com' on my BIND machine i dont get the same results as when i do the same on any other box Jan 13 05:58:04 ananke: My mom gets an In Plant trade magazine. Kinda interesting, actually. Jan 13 05:58:24 i think HP might turn into a printer company...they are just about there. ;-) Jan 13 05:58:26 OK I'm gonna crash. night all. Jan 13 05:58:36 Kyle_S: G'night Jan 13 05:58:44 --> blaylock (~sfv100@24-49-51-43.chvlva.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 05:59:03 the fun stuff will be finding things to print, in the 'testing the new printer' phase Jan 13 05:59:09 I have a full day of designing a database and begging for jobs tommarow ;) Jan 13 05:59:11 ohh joy. Jan 13 05:59:39 i would vote for pinup girls if you can find images in high resolutions. Jan 13 05:59:43 ananke: Could make some 'posters' Jan 13 06:00:23 FriedBob : the only thing i can think of would be taking some high res photos, or generating things from scratch Jan 13 06:00:51 ananke: cat /dev/urandom > ? Jan 13 06:00:53 lol Jan 13 06:00:58 hehe Jan 13 06:01:08 --> slack_newbie (1000@c9063a81.virtua.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:01:12 --> SAM_theoldman (~SAM_theol@user-1120rme.dsl.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:01:14 --> Marverick (~slack4eve@200.96.203.45) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:01:15 hello Jan 13 06:01:18 the max speed of it is 980 some sqft per hour Jan 13 06:01:20 i need help Jan 13 06:01:26 whats the command to disable hotplug at start Jan 13 06:01:35 SAM_theoldman ask maybe Jan 13 06:01:36 Destructo : chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.hotplug Jan 13 06:01:41 thanks Jan 13 06:01:42 Destructo: pass the nohotplug option at boot? Jan 13 06:01:56 well i used the cd to boot in with Jan 13 06:02:05 yea Jan 13 06:02:10 hmm, i wonder what distros support opterons Jan 13 06:02:12 Should still work, in theory. Jan 13 06:02:22 my ? is how to get realplayer on firefox on slack 10 Jan 13 06:02:26 FriedBob whats the full commmand Jan 13 06:02:34 SAM_theoldman : what's '?' Jan 13 06:02:37 SAM_theoldman try mplayer Jan 13 06:02:42 ?= question Jan 13 06:02:48 i id Jan 13 06:02:51 i did Jan 13 06:02:54 SAM_theoldman : then you can learn how to spell it out Jan 13 06:02:56 srry i type fast Jan 13 06:03:02 ananke, suse does Jan 13 06:03:23 --> CajunKnight (~usa@68.206.179.75) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:03:35 keanne : that's what i'm thinking about using. some darn professors ordered sun boxes, and those are ones with opteron procs. Jan 13 06:03:37 i downloaded mplayer and helix both failed Jan 13 06:03:37 At the option to pass params ("this prompt is just for... don't change disks yet"), nohotplug Jan 13 06:03:45 but not under fedora core 1 Jan 13 06:04:10 FriedBob yeah i missed that i guess Jan 13 06:04:45 ananke: IIRC, Fedora has some support for 64bit procs, not sure if it's specific to Opterons or if it's more for the other AMD64s. Jan 13 06:05:02 <-- SAM_theoldman has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 06:05:05 fedora? i'm going to stay away from it as far as i can :) Jan 13 06:05:13 ananke: Don't blame you. Jan 13 06:06:02 ananke: Only reason I know is they maintain the SElinux userland patches now, and spent an evening recently digging through their CVS looking for them, so someone else could set up a repository just for those, so not everyone would have to suffer as I did. Jan 13 06:06:18 s/and spent/and I spent/ Jan 13 06:06:33 ananke, i dont know other distros, suse (or novell?) is the one making all the noise about their opteron support. ah, i heard sun lowered their prices for those...true? Jan 13 06:06:37 <-- sunbx has quit (No route to host) Jan 13 06:06:50 --> d_low_ (~d_low@dlow-00000001.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:06:52 --> Riddick (riddick@pcp08897802pcs.hcksrd01.tn.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:07:00 <-- nullvalue has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 06:07:08 theres a site forlinux opteron Jan 13 06:07:57 http://www.x86-64.org/ Jan 13 06:07:58 <-- m-00kie has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 06:08:02 --> leyb_ (~leyb@client32.fnj1.hawkcommunications.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:08:04 keanne: true Jan 13 06:08:05 oh wait nm Jan 13 06:08:21 --> m-00kie (3704558@pcp0010383411pcs.arlngt01.va.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:08:44 <-- d_low has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 06:09:47 wow still a dead room Jan 13 06:09:49 <-- CajunKnight has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 06:10:52 Riddick: Naw, we just hid the booze and wimmin cause we saw you coming. Jan 13 06:11:04 there's was a discussion in the openbsd mailinglist about this, amd invented the AMD64 architecture, yet intel having convinced Microsoft, tried to call it x86-64 and FSF fell for it. Jan 13 06:11:14 funny eh? Jan 13 06:12:18 is mii a NIC module? Jan 13 06:13:13 thr1ce: No, it's a tool for configuring NICs Jan 13 06:13:14 --> SAM_theoldman (~SAM_theol@user-1120rme.dsl.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:13:15 <-- noDLL has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 06:13:15 --> CajunKnight (~usa@68.206.179.75) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:13:19 back again Jan 13 06:14:14 --> Resonance (~none@DIALUP-148-107.TNKNO2.USIT.NET) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:14:23 hehe FriedBob Jan 13 06:15:06 <-- thr1ce has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 06:16:32 --> noDLL (~nodll4me@red-corp-201.130.163.252.telnor.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:17:54 <-- SAM_theoldman has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 06:19:06 <-- ApSeLiCo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 06:22:26 * kossy is gone.. autoaway after 60 min (log.on/page.on) Jan 13 06:22:47 --- nixor removes ban on *!*@chello212017083201.10.15.vie.surfer.at Jan 13 06:24:55 --> frogger__ (~frogger_@roc-66-67-58-171.rochester.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:25:02 --> crazyhors (~crazyhors@d142-59-169-167.abhsia.telus.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:25:27 at what country is that ? Jan 13 06:25:33 austrialia ? Jan 13 06:25:38 <-- crazyhors (~crazyhors@d142-59-169-167.abhsia.telus.net) has left ##slackware Jan 13 06:25:57 in the prefix in the bann Jan 13 06:27:41 in the prefix? Jan 13 06:27:49 athenas? Jan 13 06:27:59 umm, i think you mean suffix man Jan 13 06:28:09 --- d_low_ is now known as d_low Jan 13 06:29:21 .at Jan 13 06:29:25 .at – Austria Jan 13 06:29:31 yeah Jan 13 06:29:40 sorry I am slow :) Jan 13 06:30:11 any ham operators here ? Jan 13 06:30:20 .va – Holy See (Vatican City State) <<-- gotta get me one. Jan 13 06:30:22 you know talk on the raidio Jan 13 06:30:35 radio Jan 13 06:31:08 CajunKnight : uhmm, trust me. ham operators know that it's a radio. Jan 13 06:31:20 lol Jan 13 06:31:20 and those that do not know that it's a radio, are not ham operators :) Jan 13 06:31:44 so anyone here got a ticket ? Jan 13 06:32:04 i knew a guy who talked on ham alot. he was a freak. I will never use ham b/c of him. Jan 13 06:32:09 I am looking for anyone in the hobby Jan 13 06:32:40 well he might be one out of the thousands they have on cb Jan 13 06:32:58 right. Jan 13 06:33:00 I'll never get on cb with that mess on there Jan 13 06:33:59 well I was just cuious to know Jan 13 06:34:19 I am still waiting on mine in the mail Jan 13 06:34:31 CB == 11yr olds like i used to be. =) Jan 13 06:34:40 <-- mo699898 has quit (No route to host) Jan 13 06:34:52 you think im bad now, imagine 10yrs ago! Jan 13 06:35:18 --> Absyrtus (~~@Laust2.cluj.astral.ro) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:35:40 --> mo699898 (~mo699898@c66.168.24.174.mad.wi.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:36:49 <-- Absyrtus has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 06:37:47 my next ones to go for is a cw morse code and general licence Jan 13 06:37:58 then after that a extra Jan 13 06:38:13 supposed to be the highest Jan 13 06:39:18 <-- eelriverlt (~murph@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) has left ##slackware ("Gonna try something, I hope I'll be back") Jan 13 06:41:38 <-- rignes has quit ("leaving") Jan 13 06:41:50 I was also hopeing for tranciever to pc interfaceing I wanna get that some too Jan 13 06:42:09 <-- frogger_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 06:46:23 <-- blaylock has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 06:47:36 --> little_bear (~little_be@201.135.248.145) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:47:58 --> eelriverlt (~murph@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:48:17 Well, didn't work. Bummer Jan 13 06:50:34 --> WhiteRabbit (~3am@whiterabbit.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:52:35 <-- eelriverlt (~murph@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) has left ##slackware ("Gonna try something, I hope I'll be back") Jan 13 06:53:08 <-- WhiteRabbit (~3am@whiterabbit.user) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 13 06:54:18 --> althalus (~althalus@c-67-170-176-30.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:55:05 --> sami_ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:55:16 --> eelriver (~murp@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:55:27 <-- slack_newbie has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 06:56:16 --> eelriverlt (~murph@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 06:57:56 <-- SuperGear has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 06:59:26 wheres the ssh conf? Jan 13 06:59:32 like to change which port it runs on Jan 13 06:59:40 <-- CajunKnight (~usa@68.206.179.75) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 13 07:00:35 /etc/ssh Jan 13 07:00:40 <-- nomasteryoda has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 07:00:50 hey anyone here use nduiswrapper Jan 13 07:00:53 --> SuperGear (~supergear@c-24-9-154-178.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 07:00:56 ndiswrapper Jan 13 07:01:01 try this again Jan 13 07:01:04 <-- eelriverlt has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 07:01:55 --> debd00d (~bacardi@c-24-19-219-0.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 07:02:25 --> MAN_HATER (~nobody@adsl-70-240-76-63.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 07:02:55 <-- FriedBob has quit ("bedtime.") Jan 13 07:03:34 <-- MAN_HATER (~nobody@adsl-70-240-76-63.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has left ##slackware ("XDestroyWindow(dpy,this)") Jan 13 07:04:55 in postfix user accounts on the machine are valid users for email recipients'? Jan 13 07:05:06 --> sami__ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 07:05:37 Outpour : that would be a #postfix question. however, it seems that the answer would be yes Jan 13 07:06:28 <-- sami_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 07:06:37 --> seemawn (~zomtec@p508103DE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 07:07:16 normally yes as ananke said, but it does not mean that an email account automatically has a machine account. Jan 13 07:07:30 keanne because of aliases and such? Jan 13 07:08:45 Outpour, well...yes, that is one reason. also there are other ways of storing email accounts. it can be stored on ldap or sql backends as well. Jan 13 07:11:30 <-- sami has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 07:12:39 --> eelriverlt (~murph@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 07:15:36 --> MAN_HATER (~nobody@adsl-70-240-76-63.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 07:15:54 waves to tha nice people Jan 13 07:16:16 * MAN_HATER knows they are nice cuz I am in netbsd trying for help and it ain't llike here Jan 13 07:17:52 hi MAN_HATER (traitor) :) Jan 13 07:18:12 hehe - I am only trying to see what is so great about bsd Jan 13 07:18:23 --> qmasterr1 (1000@pD955AE9F.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 07:18:25 and I have no mouse so I see nothing great yet Jan 13 07:18:52 I was just trying to boot featherlinux from a usb key, so I don't have much room to talk Jan 13 07:19:23 well, its not "bad" to use other *nix specially the bsd's :), i myself use openbsd for firewalls. Jan 13 07:19:32 My laptop doesn't want to boot from usb though Jan 13 07:20:31 I was kidding around with MAN_HATER, who I'm sure took no offense Jan 13 07:21:46 of course, we dont take offenses here :). i believe slackware users are the most accomodating linux users Jan 13 07:22:12 eelriverlt is that like a usb pendrive - cuz i ran across a usb pendrive linux by a lug Jan 13 07:23:48 MAN_HATER, Yeah, The laptop will boot from usb-fdd, so I think I just need to put the right fs on it for the bios to reconise it as a fdd. (If that made any sense) Jan 13 07:24:04 <-- qmasterrr has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 07:24:56 * MAN_HATER thinks usb is gonna have a long device driver list one day Jan 13 07:24:56 MAN_HATER, I've got it on the drive, and it said all I needed to do is run syslinux on it to make it bootable. Jan 13 07:25:30 I thought syslinux was a boot utility Jan 13 07:25:38 So either "they" were wrong, or I need to do what I said before Jan 13 07:26:02 sounds like fun (eyeroll Jan 13 07:26:18 remind me and I will send you pendrive linux url Jan 13 07:26:26 * MAN_HATER er google fur it Jan 13 07:26:36 MAN_HATER, It is, I ran it on the unziped distro on the flash drive to try to make it bootable Jan 13 07:26:54 i tried putting slax on my usb drive....i think my usb drive is hosed now Jan 13 07:27:02 I should fdisk it to make sure Jan 13 07:27:22 SuicidJky, That would suck Jan 13 07:27:42 yep lol Jan 13 07:27:48 i haven't touched it in awhile Jan 13 07:28:11 storing school files on my linux box and using sftp lol Jan 13 07:28:45 * MAN_HATER mumbles (well netbsd channel sux Jan 13 07:29:04 MAN_HATER, sux how? Jan 13 07:29:33 sucks penis Jan 13 07:29:36 anyone in here answer a quick - should "dmesg | grep wsmouse " give me some sort of return ? Jan 13 07:29:43 actually they've been mildly helpful to me Jan 13 07:29:50 sucks wind Jan 13 07:30:06 <-- viLeR has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 07:30:34 MAN_HATER : sure. if wsmouse was present in what dmesg outputs :) Jan 13 07:31:00 wsmouse? i strongly doubt that Jan 13 07:31:07 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System Jan 13 07:31:11 /dev/sde1 ? 8563200 8326647 2088818490 1 FAT12 Jan 13 07:31:16 meta-ridley do you have a mouse in netbsd 2.0 i386live (cuz tha laptop kernel sure ain't tempting me to move to netbsd (grin Jan 13 07:31:20 thanx ananke Jan 13 07:31:59 nope, but i'm not using a mouse with my netbsd install :) Jan 13 07:32:29 hahah figures (maybe thats where I am going wrong (bsd is fur tab key users (grin Jan 13 07:32:36 ok enough slander Jan 13 07:32:36 I guess I should make that bootable, huh? Jan 13 07:32:42 i just use it as a server Jan 13 07:32:46 no x, none of that crud Jan 13 07:33:05 (yes a mouse in mc would be ehhh - too modern (grin Jan 13 07:33:10 * MAN_HATER shuts upp Jan 13 07:33:16 MAN_HATER, at least the their benchmark againts the freebsd looks good :) Jan 13 07:33:26 thanx for the help everybody - ya'll are kewl Jan 13 07:36:51 keanne - it's asy to get benchmarks when the damn thing (mine) doesn't do anything (yet) - just kidding Jan 13 07:37:22 * MAN_HATER fling the live cdrom across tha room and reboots into slack Jan 13 07:37:39 haha Jan 13 07:38:14 <-- Caveman has quit ("How can I know all this, but not know who I am ?") Jan 13 07:38:38 MAN_HATER, when i first wanted to try netbsd, i found the documentation lacking...how do you feel about its documentation? Jan 13 07:38:54 i think netbsd has decent docs myself Jan 13 07:39:03 the netbsd guide is pretty well done Jan 13 07:39:09 Now I think I'm going to try something totally dumb and try to make slackpackages of Gnome-2.8 for -current Jan 13 07:39:12 keanne (in here you want me to rag on that - LOL Jan 13 07:39:43 meta-ridley, i guess im just used on openbsd's docs and manuals then. Jan 13 07:39:48 I found (geeze is typing to log in type root with a password of root (too frekin dificult to type ? Jan 13 07:39:54 openbsd man pages can't be beat Jan 13 07:40:11 yes the docs are - weird (maybe translated (but hey (unix people are weird to me (well sorta Jan 13 07:40:23 --> mmu_man (revol@ALyon-112-1-13-117.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 07:40:44 * MAN_HATER gets out a stick to beat man pages Jan 13 07:40:52 that's definately one of openbsd's strengths Jan 13 07:40:58 and pf.. i love pf Jan 13 07:41:30 <-- althalus has quit () Jan 13 07:41:46 <-- logged has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 07:41:50 --> logged (1000@rrcs-24-227-56-178.se.biz.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 07:42:46 * MAN_HATER bad docs - thinx maybe that is why sandy who can type 900 words a minute in threee irc windows is over on bsd ( no matter how bad I dislike a distro - it needs to have good docs Jan 13 07:43:00 bsd does have good docs though :P Jan 13 07:43:13 the bsd's i should say Jan 13 07:43:20 * MAN_HATER shouls have know when I could not use shift page up that bsd is not for me Jan 13 07:43:26 hahah Jan 13 07:43:36 --> kmaster (~kmaster@hsdbsk69-11-11-105.sasknet.sk.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 07:44:10 i still like slackware first and foremost Jan 13 07:44:26 but if slackware were to disappear i'd jump ship and use one of the bsd's Jan 13 07:44:37 meta-ridley, until now, im still waiting for a good docs on Linux's QoS :( Jan 13 07:45:01 --> mohohaha (necro@CPE0004ac237e6f-CM400048293705.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 07:45:25 aye, same here, no bsd or distro can top slackware. (not because im on this channel ;-) Jan 13 07:48:15 <-- qmasterr1 has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 07:48:51 <-- ximpul has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 07:49:27 <-- Lurkan has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 07:50:00 I heard about some problems with nvidia drivers and the 2.6.10 kernel. Can anyone tell me what it's all about? Jan 13 07:50:24 <-- leyb_ has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 13 07:50:42 --> sanish (~sp@CPE0004e23a0211-CM014500115762.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 07:51:07 i installed slack onto my laptop and now im trying to put it on my desktop, my xp partition is the first primary, my slack is the second primaryi installed slack onto my laptop and now im trying to put it on my desktop, my xp partition is the first primary, my slack is the second primary Jan 13 07:51:28 but it wont lt me put lilo on the mbr Jan 13 07:51:31 any ideas wh Jan 13 07:52:42 --> broesel (~broesel@p5487D8C7.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 07:52:47 why not do it the other way around? Jan 13 07:52:57 <-- seemawn has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 07:53:11 slackware as hda and windows as hdc Jan 13 07:53:29 because winblows will automatically messaround with the mbr at the time of the install Jan 13 07:54:07 ? Jan 13 07:54:12 <-- broesel (~broesel@p5487D8C7.dip.t-dialin.net) has left ##slackware Jan 13 07:54:14 install windows first Jan 13 07:55:19 then set it as secondary master (if that is what you meant by second primary), then install slackware on your primary master. should work. Jan 13 07:55:19 * MAN_HATER rembers thos words saved me great troubles (instll m$ first Jan 13 07:56:16 * eelriverlt remembers it was easier to "remove M$ first" Jan 13 07:56:18 --> Gartt_ (~brian@ip68-14-81-92.ri.ri.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 07:56:20 --- MAN_HATER is now known as Too_Rude Jan 13 07:59:28 <-- sanish has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 07:59:48 if I have a transparent proxy but I DONT want a client to be able to connect directly to the proxy (having it configured) but force to use the transparent way, how could it be done? Jan 13 08:01:17 --> MAN_Hater (~Too_Rude@adsl-70-240-76-63.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 08:01:31 squid? Jan 13 08:02:44 yes Jan 13 08:03:13 noDLL :uhmm, that's the idea of a transparent proxy Jan 13 08:03:13 doesnt ACL works in transparent mode? Jan 13 08:03:52 ananke: yes, but, i want to force them to use it by the transparent method Jan 13 08:04:05 ok, i misunderstood the question :) Jan 13 08:04:21 noDLL : the 'transparent' method is a combination of both settings on the proxy, and rewriting the tcp/ip requests on your router Jan 13 08:04:39 <-- Gartt has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 08:04:42 yes, i have it working that way Jan 13 08:04:47 <-- kmaster has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 08:05:18 but i want that the clients which have configured (for example IE) a proxy not to be able to conect Jan 13 08:06:30 noDLL, why not use iptables? transparent mode uses port 80 right? block client access to port 8080 or whatever you use in your squid Jan 13 08:07:24 i'll try it, i think I had tryed it before but i'm not sure Jan 13 08:08:15 humm slackware speak compitition http://www.oralux.org/ Jan 13 08:08:37 thanks for the help .. Jan 13 08:09:40 i havent use transparent proxy because it doesnt work on SSL sessions, but afaik, client's http request (port 80) will be intercepted by the transparent proxy and directed to squids port (ex: 8080). so block direct client access to squid's port and i think it should work. Jan 13 08:12:14 keanne: thanks :) let me try that way Jan 13 08:13:09 that would be nasty hehe it is easier to have iptables with the macaddress rules configured to allow or drop from a host than with acl :) thats way we want to do that Jan 13 08:13:23 <-- mohohaha has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 08:13:38 <-- adjacent has quit (No route to host) Jan 13 08:15:03 MAN_Hater, Were you still searching for how penguins bring food to their babies when you came accross oralux? Jan 13 08:15:25 haha yes Jan 13 08:16:10 I was just curious if anyone in slackware has a install like this one (interesting since slack is the one amous for blind users Jan 13 08:16:33 I didn't know that Jan 13 08:17:12 amous = famous Jan 13 08:17:23 How did it become famous for blind users? Jan 13 08:18:13 eh zipspeak - and speak up ? etc Jan 13 08:18:15 The Oralux user interface is based on Emacspeak the Audio Desktop created by T. V. Raman. Emacspeak offers a complete and powerful desktop. Jan 13 08:18:15 Another environment is available based on Yasr, the lightweight and portable screen reader by Mike Gorse. Jan 13 08:18:35 The CD includes a free English Text-To-Speech software (TTS): Flite (Carnegie Mellon University). Jan 13 08:18:35 It also includes EFM from Pierre Lorenzon for French and English. EFM is based on Festival (University of Edinburgh) and MBROLA (Thierry Dutoit, Universite de Mons). Jan 13 08:22:23 MAN_Hater, You've mentioned festival before, do languages interest you? Jan 13 08:23:58 eelriver no I am lazy and want the paper read to me (smirk Jan 13 08:24:24 That make perfect sense Jan 13 08:25:10 Can you tell my computers aren't that far apart? Jan 13 08:27:08 --> deez (~deez@ip68-98-179-238.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 08:27:20 --> fati (~fati@d14-69-72-214.try.wideopenwest.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 08:27:24 hehe yes on far apart - sorry I hit tab Jan 13 08:28:11 I was headed this way anyway Jan 13 08:28:17 for what reason would a drive partion not show up in cfdisk ? Jan 13 08:28:22 <-- little_bear has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 08:28:28 don't say hidden Jan 13 08:29:18 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 08:30:02 --> Gartt (~brian@ip68-14-81-92.ri.ri.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 08:34:29 <-- kossy has quit ("changing servers") Jan 13 08:35:59 --> sanish (~sp@CPE0004e23a0211-CM014500115762.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 08:36:11 can someone help me setp my network card in slack10 Jan 13 08:37:07 http://www.elrellano.com/videos/descargar.php?fichero=testconsolas.zip hehehe Jan 13 08:37:14 she is a bad girl Jan 13 08:37:21 (no pr0n) Jan 13 08:37:30 --> Buddha| (~mike@adsl-220-142-184.gnv.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 08:37:47 Any idea on when 10.1 might be released? Jan 13 08:37:52 is a resistence test for ps2, gc, and xbox Jan 13 08:37:59 When it's time. Jan 13 08:38:05 <-- fati has quit ("BitchX: use only under adult supervision") Jan 13 08:38:30 --> kossy (k0s@208.53.184.88) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 08:38:44 --> slackz (~slackz@24-116-8-64.cpe.cableone.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 08:39:50 sanash tell info Jan 13 08:39:56 sanish Jan 13 08:40:09 i downloaded all my slackware patch packages. or forgot the command to run them so slackware will be updated Jan 13 08:40:27 somethinpkg update *.tgz Jan 13 08:40:36 updatepkg Jan 13 08:40:40 thanks Jan 13 08:41:04 does naybody nwoif the 2.4 kernal reconizes 3com copr gigbit network cards? Jan 13 08:41:10 im having a bit of trouble Jan 13 08:42:18 err Jan 13 08:42:31 slackz upgradepkg Jan 13 08:42:42 not update Jan 13 08:42:42 ;) you had me wondering Jan 13 08:42:53 hehe Jan 13 08:42:54 <-- sanish has quit () Jan 13 08:43:05 sweet Jan 13 08:43:07 a quote from a slackware user needing help in another channel : ok, ran mkfs on /dev/hdc and now the partiion is gone. : ) Jan 13 08:43:43 i write this stuff down then lose it on a fresh install or can't find the paper anywazz thanks Jan 13 08:43:44 Buddha| fred87 told me that next week may be there would be a release but i'm not sure if it would be 10.1 release Jan 13 08:44:01 but it will include 64bit support :D Jan 13 08:44:23 <-- kossy has quit ("changing servers") Jan 13 08:44:54 --> kossy (k0s@connection.refused.us) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 08:44:57 that would do it Jan 13 08:45:29 <-- W|GG-Laptop has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 08:45:44 * MAN_Hater waves bye Jan 13 08:46:01 Adios Jan 13 08:46:16 <-- Gartt_ has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 13 08:46:30 eelriver I was waving to W|gg Jan 13 08:46:45 he didn't see you Jan 13 08:46:56 eelriver but speaking of that oralux don' speak texian Jan 13 08:47:51 MAN_Hater, google for "mumblelux" Jan 13 08:48:05 hehe Jan 13 08:48:31 <-- heviarti has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 13 08:49:00 noDLL - 64-bit? really? Jan 13 08:49:10 "mumblenux" Jan 13 08:49:41 Buddha| : yes :D Jan 13 08:49:58 <-- Marverick has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 08:50:03 * Buddha| does a happy dance around his AMD64 2800+ Jan 13 08:50:09 No matter what accent or dialect h Jan 13 08:50:24 they used, someone would complain Jan 13 08:51:05 hehe yes Jan 13 08:51:35 --> heviarti (heviarti@predator.bigskytel.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 08:51:37 He sounds like a liberal to me, by cracky Jan 13 08:51:38 who wants to do a nebie question about adding a second drive ? Jan 13 08:51:42 :) i now will be able to rest ... i was trying to make a toolchain to enable my 64bit support during 1 month and a half Jan 13 08:52:59 MAN_Hater, same controller? This isn't some insane drive with super hidden powers is it? Jan 13 08:53:31 nope Jan 13 08:53:41 who wants to see a video about a woman being nasty with a gamecube a ps2 and a xbox :) Jan 13 08:54:06 nasty as in naked ? Jan 13 08:54:15 lol hehe no Jan 13 08:54:16 noDLL, Ask phrag, /msg him if you have too Jan 13 08:54:41 no pr0n at all :( sorry Jan 13 08:55:21 --> odoa2 (~odoa2@209-193-48-142-cdsl-rb1.anc.acsalaska.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 08:55:52 Don't be sorry, here on this channel, no pron is a good thing Jan 13 08:56:03 hehe ok Jan 13 08:56:13 yeah well thanks for the excitement .. :P Jan 13 08:56:15 or tease Jan 13 08:56:56 eelriverlt - your earlier comment about visually empaired http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS8445310221.html Jan 13 08:57:04 lol well destructo i think there is a MOULIN HUGE (moulin ruge parody) video Jan 13 08:57:42 --> frogger^ (frogger@J36dc.j.pppool.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 08:57:48 hi Jan 13 08:57:53 http://www.elrellano.com/videos/descargar.php?fichero=moulin-huge.zip it is zipped the video is in wmv Jan 13 08:58:42 http://www.elrellano.com/videos/descargar.php?fichero=testconsolas.zip this one is the one with the girl and the xbox Jan 13 08:59:34 <-- Destructo has quit ("Daddy Drinks Because You Cry Alot...") Jan 13 09:00:47 <_erik> those links don't work Jan 13 09:00:49 I'm going to do that, turn my laptop into a talky. Next time I get annoyed by a cellphone in starbucks I can cat /hda1 or something Jan 13 09:00:58 thats odd on two ## s no link to join channel example ##slackware Jan 13 09:01:20 hehe eelriverlt Jan 13 09:01:47 is eelriverlt here right now? Jan 13 09:01:47 * MAN_Hater hands you the netbsd live cdrom to help you get annoyed Jan 13 09:02:00 --> kerio2004 (~Port@210.213.149.21) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 09:02:03 _erik really??? :| Jan 13 09:02:07 eelriverlt there is the parttion questions Jan 13 09:02:25 odoa2 meet eelriverlt Jan 13 09:02:37 cheers Jan 13 09:02:47 http://www.elrellano.com/videos/ well ... thats the page ...it is in spanish but the videos arent :) Jan 13 09:03:24 odoa2: ok start typing Jan 13 09:04:58 editing fstab and it's looking for a directory to point the mount at, what's the best to use? /dev/something, /var/something, or simply /something? Jan 13 09:05:30 I use /mnt/something Jan 13 09:05:51 so cd /mnt, then md "something", then point there? Jan 13 09:06:06 cd /mnt mkdir something Jan 13 09:06:12 gotcha Jan 13 09:06:47 --> phiend (~phiend@64.86.231.103) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 09:06:56 --> khronus (~roun@82-33-9-234.cable.ubr14.newt.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 09:06:59 lo all Jan 13 09:07:27 There's nothing really wrong with mounting it on / , I just like to do it the slackware way Jan 13 09:07:30 how do i use raid0 on an install? Jan 13 09:07:52 yeah, look a new hd! thanks man_hatr and eelriver Jan 13 09:08:12 hi all, technical questions coming your way :P Jan 13 09:08:15 i got two scsis Jan 13 09:08:26 * MAN_Hater just noticed the "the self-installing distro" part ...in the nick of time (altho this seems a good idea for the blind user (I guess Jan 13 09:08:39 odoa2 good deal Jan 13 09:08:59 ask those other ntfs question here also Jan 13 09:09:51 ok folk, i was rying to install some libraries and i found that in my home folder i wasn't able to delete anything, then i went to reboot and upon logging in as a user i went 'startx' and i got:..... Jan 13 09:10:17 Xauth: timeout error in locing authority file /home/khronus/.Xauthority Jan 13 09:10:33 cannot lock the file /tmp/T.X0-lock Jan 13 09:10:37 * MAN_Hater stupidly wonders why there are no screenshots of the distro for the blind user Jan 13 09:10:38 any idea's folk ? Jan 13 09:10:40 --> Yamabushi (~Yamabushi@ip68-102-249-200.ks.ok.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 09:10:45 MAN_Hater, I hope they do better then the closed captioning on Leno tonight, the guy must be drunk Jan 13 09:11:33 leno is over already here (grin - maybe rush handed out extra left over pills again (grin Jan 13 09:11:44 anyone know how I can get X working, seems like a permissions issue Jan 13 09:11:49 of which i know nothing Jan 13 09:12:28 i in attempton to fix i deleted /tmp Jan 13 09:12:30 khronus: man chmod Jan 13 09:12:33 but i have made it again now Jan 13 09:12:46 ok, what do i need to change the permissions to Jan 13 09:12:52 and in what folde/file Jan 13 09:13:17 khronus, Is 8 hours over already? (Some how I knew I'd still be here) Jan 13 09:13:25 lol Jan 13 09:13:30 yep 8 hours is up Jan 13 09:13:35 ive slept and awoken again Jan 13 09:13:52 its my birthday and my computer aint werin, plese help! lol Jan 13 09:14:13 khronus, ls -la / Then paste the /tmp line Jan 13 09:14:37 or ls -l /tmp ... Jan 13 09:14:45 a bit simpler. Jan 13 09:14:45 -ld Jan 13 09:15:05 ok i have to run upstairs to do it and write it down Jan 13 09:15:11 lol Jan 13 09:15:11 bbs Jan 13 09:15:16 khronus: Jan 13 09:15:30 you can chat via console too ya know.. Jan 13 09:15:46 khronus you should get a wireless keyboard and have it downstairs Jan 13 09:15:47 ooh Jan 13 09:15:47 hehe Jan 13 09:15:52 lol yea Jan 13 09:15:52 total 848510 Jan 13 09:15:52 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 183 Nov 26 09:18 SMBnegprot.1.req Jan 13 09:15:52 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 113 Nov 26 09:18 SMBnegprot.1.resp Jan 13 09:15:52 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 183 Nov 26 09:18 SMBnegprot.2.req Jan 13 09:15:52 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 113 Nov 26 09:18 SMBnegprot.2.resp Jan 13 09:15:52 <-- nixor has kicked ZipKid from ##slackware (flood) Jan 13 09:15:56 ahh well Jan 13 09:16:03 i shall sort that out soon i think Jan 13 09:16:09 --> ZipKid (~ZipKid@d51A48DD0.kabel.telenet.be) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 09:16:12 oops Jan 13 09:16:15 so would i just type xchat Jan 13 09:16:18 and it would run Jan 13 09:16:19 wrong command :) Jan 13 09:16:21 No. Jan 13 09:16:29 xchat is a graphical irc client Jan 13 09:16:35 irssi Jan 13 09:16:36 indeed it is ( doh! ) Jan 13 09:17:04 well i'll go boot up and get the /tmp ls -la result Jan 13 09:17:08 bbiab Jan 13 09:17:32 Resonance: xchat has a console version too... Jan 13 09:18:34 why is slackware so much easier to install and to set up than debian? i tried to install debian yesterday and i had to set up everything by hand. no soundcard was detected and i got errors here and there. god bless slackware! :) Jan 13 09:18:37 khronus: write the output to a piece of papper and then get back to type it :) Jan 13 09:18:50 hehehe Jan 13 09:19:00 Ah, cool. I don't mess with xchat much. Jan 13 09:20:02 Question - I try to start into init level 4, but it just keeps 'cycling' (showing X then shutting down), the only error I see is "xdm error: Trouble getting network interface configuration" Jan 13 09:20:29 any ideas why xdm would be trying to get that ... and even why it'd be dud (the machine is networked, I'm accessing it via SSH Jan 13 09:21:12 brb Jan 13 09:21:14 <-- chewvl has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 09:21:15 back Jan 13 09:21:21 couldn't start irssi Jan 13 09:21:37 said couldn't open directory /home/khronus/.irssi Jan 13 09:21:53 and the ls -la read out for /tmp is kinda alot to type Jan 13 09:21:54 inflex, Make sure your /etc/hosts file is correct Jan 13 09:21:59 eelriver: thanks Jan 13 09:22:06 i can do it if needed though Jan 13 09:22:10 theres 6 entries Jan 13 09:22:41 khronus, just go to /. cd /. Do an ls -al. Look for the line with /tmp on it. Write that down. Jan 13 09:22:50 is it possible to turn to init level 4 by calling it from rc.M at the last line?? Jan 13 09:23:12 ok res Jan 13 09:23:21 noDLL: why would you want to do that? Jan 13 09:23:31 noDLL, Use /etc/inittab, that's what it's for Jan 13 09:23:59 coz nvidia docs tells not not to have init level 4 by default Jan 13 09:24:10 lol Jan 13 09:24:22 ok it says : Jan 13 09:24:50 drwxrwxrwt 6 root root 176 2005-01-13 Jan 13 09:24:51 noDLL, slackware has rl 3 as defualt Jan 13 09:24:55 eelriver: seems like it's a KDM problem/setup Jan 13 09:24:56 and at rc.M i put a line to reinstall the driver just after every boot :) hehe (workarround to the 2.6.10 problems Jan 13 09:24:59 so full permissions Jan 13 09:25:09 eelriver: if I run 'xdm' it works Jan 13 09:25:12 --- rebewt_ is now known as rebewt Jan 13 09:25:13 if I run kdm, it fails Jan 13 09:25:19 khronus, that's what it should be Jan 13 09:25:26 cool ok Jan 13 09:25:29 so hmm Jan 13 09:25:44 It fails with a xdm error trying to run kdm? Jan 13 09:25:48 the file it mentins is /tmp/TX.0-lock Jan 13 09:26:20 eelriver: I think that was a dud from the first run - but I did fix up my /etc/hosts anyhow :-D Jan 13 09:26:32 * inflex wonders what dependencies he's failed for kdm Jan 13 09:26:38 I just installed kdebase Jan 13 09:26:40 nothing else yet Jan 13 09:26:50 any idea's now folks Jan 13 09:26:52 ldd kdm Jan 13 09:26:57 I hope some day entranced would be included into slackware distro Jan 13 09:26:59 :) Jan 13 09:27:07 err entrance Jan 13 09:27:07 khronus - delete that file, then try running kdm again Jan 13 09:27:15 when i googled i just found reference to changing permissions Jan 13 09:27:15 inflex, I think you need a little more then that Jan 13 09:27:16 ok Jan 13 09:27:18 its gnoe Jan 13 09:27:21 gnome Jan 13 09:27:22 eelriver: ja, time to go looking :-D Jan 13 09:27:54 inflex, try the package browser at www.slackware.com Jan 13 09:28:05 yep, I'll get it worked out, thanks Jan 13 09:28:25 gl Jan 13 09:28:45 <-- maddler has quit ("connection reset by beer!") Jan 13 09:28:54 --> lab_rat (~Lab_Rat@205-178-43-169.s423.tnt1.sfrn.ca.dialup.rcn.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 09:30:33 --> xbleedingangelx (~deathange@adsl-68-74-137-226.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 09:30:41 everyone goto www.darkstarlings.com Jan 13 09:30:43 <-- xbleedingangelx (~deathange@adsl-68-74-137-226.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) has left ##slackware Jan 13 09:30:53 <-- slackz has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 09:30:55 Suuuure Jan 13 09:31:03 Yea, we'll do that right away Jan 13 09:31:41 <-- rh0` has quit (Ping timeout: 14400 seconds) Jan 13 09:31:47 Hey, he didn't wait around so I could thank him Jan 13 09:32:07 What a shame. Jan 13 09:34:21 --> vassie (~vassie@195.153.177.75) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 09:34:46 <-- vassie (~vassie@195.153.177.75) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 13 09:35:10 ok, it almost started x Jan 13 09:35:13 attempted 2 Jan 13 09:35:20 almost? Jan 13 09:35:39 but got kicked out saying owner of /tmp/.ICEauthority must be set to root Jan 13 09:35:46 so i shall look up hpw to change own Jan 13 09:35:49 man chown ya ? Jan 13 09:36:01 <-- Buddha| has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 09:36:19 eelriverlt hehe a quote Once the cock stops singing, Oralux beeps. You can then change the sound volume: Jan 13 09:37:00 Yea, chown Jan 13 09:37:04 cool ty Jan 13 09:37:13 MAN_Hater, I'm not going to touch that one Jan 13 09:37:52 <-- frogger^ has quit () Jan 13 09:39:17 --> Vayn0r (~root@CPE0050047e7f32-CM0f2049994695.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 09:39:18 --- nixor sets ban on *!~root@* Jan 13 09:39:19 <-- nixor has kicked Vayn0r from ##slackware (banned: It is very dangerous to IRC as root. Please return under a user account.) Jan 13 09:41:01 MAN_Hater, But let me guess, I has something to do with a mouse rollover Jan 13 09:41:55 latr, thanks for the help Jan 13 09:42:07 <-- odoa2 (~odoa2@209-193-48-142-cdsl-rb1.anc.acsalaska.net) has left ##slackware Jan 13 09:42:59 hopes odoa2 got it going Jan 13 09:43:39 --> Flendor (~onur@dsl81-214-130.adsl.ttnet.net.tr) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 09:43:45 Hello Jan 13 09:45:00 <-- kerio2004 has quit () Jan 13 09:46:52 --> wobbles (~huntsman@177.cust6.sa.dsl.ozemail.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 09:47:11 ok how do i get back to bash after viewing the man page? Jan 13 09:47:13 lol Jan 13 09:47:23 and i still dont quite understand how to do it Jan 13 09:47:29 q Jan 13 09:47:32 "you shoud avoid a ntfs parttion as currently __________ cannot write to a ntfs partion " ..the doc goes on to say :"If you place the package on a NTFS partition, the _________ serial number will be requested at each boot. Jan 13 09:47:35 if it needs to be changed to root i guess i have to be logged in as root Jan 13 09:47:41 ty res Jan 13 09:47:53 so is it like Jan 13 09:48:09 chown (summin /tmp -R Jan 13 09:50:15 * khronus googles Jan 13 09:50:22 * khronus thinks man pagesare tricky Jan 13 09:50:23 <-- noDLL has quit (".........") Jan 13 09:50:59 * MAN_Hater has a shocked look Jan 13 09:51:29 khronus, Don't -R all of /tmp Jan 13 09:52:25 Just the .ICEwhatever file Jan 13 09:53:21 cd /tmp chown root .ICEauthority Jan 13 09:54:55 http://directory.fsf.org/accessibility/gnopernicus.html Jan 13 09:55:08 damn i did all of /tmp Jan 13 09:55:17 and it didn't work Jan 13 09:55:20 * MAN_Hater typed kdepernicus Jan 13 09:55:23 so how i undo that Jan 13 09:55:54 or shall i delete /tmp and then make a new one and reboot Jan 13 09:55:55 * MAN_Hater oops wrong channel Jan 13 09:56:11 * khronus needs coffee Jan 13 09:56:14 Ummm... Jan 13 09:56:29 --> AcIdR3IgN (~someone@63-204.245.81.adsl.skynet.be) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 09:56:47 * khronus runs a business from his computer and is really worried if it isn't running soon Jan 13 09:57:00 You have to remember, most man pages were written after the programmer finally got all done with the program after working 36 out of 40 hours straight. Then they remember "Oh fu*k, now Ive got to write as g***mn man page. Jan 13 09:57:18 does anyone know a way to test if a PSU is failing? Jan 13 09:57:26 hehe eel ya Jan 13 09:57:42 ok so...i have made root the owner of all of /tmp Jan 13 09:57:54 which i need to change Jan 13 09:58:01 is deleting it and making a fresh new /tmp Jan 13 09:58:05 and rebooting an idea Jan 13 09:58:18 Why would you reboot? Jan 13 09:58:26 ok...im not sure lol Jan 13 09:58:36 dont know how the files in /tmp wprk Jan 13 09:59:00 thought maybe it would refresh it so its how it should be Jan 13 09:59:41 ermm ok ...if i delete /tmp though then there will be no /.ICEauthority to change the ownership off Jan 13 10:00:03 --> Junipero_chines (~juniperus@200.158.14.238) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 10:00:59 Ive got this odd hardware problem. I have 3 hard disks, 1 cd-rw and 1 dvd-rw in my pc, and a 400W PSU. Now, since last week my PC won't start up properly... I need to pull the main plug on the psu for about 20 seconds, stick it back in and then it will boot (mostly) now, since this morning, even that 'trick Jan 13 10:01:04 ' doesnt want to work. Jan 13 10:01:43 any ideas on what the problem is. It started ever since i put my dvd-rw into my pc... but after pulling it a hard disk, the problem remains. Jan 13 10:02:01 --> riken (~riken@mnc02.mei.co.jp) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 10:03:00 AcIdR3IgN, First, I'd make sure all the plugs are tight, don't just wiggle them, unplug and plug them back in. Jan 13 10:03:03 --> khronus_ (~roun@82-33-9-234.cable.ubr14.newt.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 10:03:12 got /d/c ed aswell Jan 13 10:03:13 <-- str has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 10:03:17 cry sob sob Jan 13 10:03:50 the plugs are tight! Jan 13 10:04:06 im gunna hang myself on my plugs Jan 13 10:04:14 AcIdR3IgN: i had that prob for a while... Jan 13 10:04:31 AcIdR3IgN, What kind of PSU is it? Did it come with a $30 case? Jan 13 10:04:35 it just went away after rearrangindg some HW... Jan 13 10:04:38 thing is... seems like the psu is making a noice... like there is a heap of dust blocking the fan... although on closer inspection there doesnt seem to be THAT much dust in there (not many dust balls). Jan 13 10:04:47 can't remember what. Jan 13 10:05:03 no, its a 400W psu from Q-tec (ok never heard of that company) but still.. (dual fan) Jan 13 10:05:21 ZipKid: lol ok :P Jan 13 10:05:47 its my b-day 2day en all, i got HL2 Jan 13 10:05:51 but if X aint werking Jan 13 10:05:56 well so much for that! Jan 13 10:06:03 Half Life 2 ? Jan 13 10:06:11 does that run on Linux ????? Jan 13 10:06:12 ya Jan 13 10:06:14 yea Jan 13 10:06:18 sure ?????? Jan 13 10:06:21 i have CS running Jan 13 10:06:22 happy birthday Jan 13 10:06:30 and cedega say HL2 runs on it Jan 13 10:06:35 straight outta daa box Jan 13 10:06:44 ty man hater Jan 13 10:06:49 who is cedega ? Jan 13 10:06:54 cdega is winex Jan 13 10:06:55 khronus_, How do you know? Jan 13 10:07:01 --> smoke__ (~smoke@64.140.93.2) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 10:07:02 windows emulator Jan 13 10:07:04 --> str (~str@216.230.158.50) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 10:07:13 well i dont out of experience but i read up on it Jan 13 10:07:17 its supposed to be ok Jan 13 10:07:25 <-- MAN_Hater has quit ("If you are reading this then it exited correctly : If you are not reading this ; then why did I write it ?") Jan 13 10:07:28 once i fix it i shall try and install it Jan 13 10:07:43 i been playing counterstrike via slackware for monthes Jan 13 10:07:52 HL2 should be ok imsure Jan 13 10:07:57 well... I guess i'll recheck my hardware later. Thanks for the help guys! Maybe I should just get rid of one of those hard disks. Jan 13 10:08:04 --> war- (war@oper.us) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 10:08:19 man i think its tme i posted my prob o a forum Jan 13 10:08:32 khronus_, Ok, where are you now? I don't mean physicaly, but as far as getting x going? Jan 13 10:08:39 <-- Junipero_chines (~juniperus@200.158.14.238) has left ##slackware Jan 13 10:08:50 <-- keanne has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 10:08:57 Just do it over like you did when you deleted /tmp the first time Jan 13 10:09:04 lol ty eel, i shall explain what i have done so far Jan 13 10:09:14 how ya mean res? Jan 13 10:09:19 do what over Jan 13 10:09:32 You made the directory again earlier Jan 13 10:09:37 yea Jan 13 10:09:42 shall i delete and remake yea Jan 13 10:09:53 khronus_, No, that will take too long, have you deleated /tmp again yet? Jan 13 10:10:02 Well you have no idea what the permissions were, and you just made a recursive change. Jan 13 10:10:17 permissions were for all i think Jan 13 10:10:27 and i just made root owner of it Jan 13 10:10:30 users rather Jan 13 10:10:50 uh uh so i shall go delete it and remake it yea Jan 13 10:11:16 then it will be empty..ahhh so when i run 'startx' is that when various files get dumped in there ? Jan 13 10:12:11 Unless there's a better idea that someone has Jan 13 10:12:28 ok i shall go delete /tmp Jan 13 10:12:30 and remake it Jan 13 10:12:51 Make sure the permissions match. Save yourself some stair climbing. Jan 13 10:13:34 khronus, Delete it, the remake it and then chmod a+rwxt tmp Jan 13 10:14:17 <-- JackaLX has quit ("BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") Jan 13 10:14:24 <-- smoke_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 10:14:57 ok ive deleted and remade it Jan 13 10:15:05 and i got the permissions as Jan 13 10:15:20 drwxr-wr-w Jan 13 10:15:49 wrong, chmod a+rwxt Jan 13 10:15:56 ok Jan 13 10:16:04 just /tmp Jan 13 10:16:09 not / Jan 13 10:16:13 ok Jan 13 10:16:39 --> epic (~epic@220.80-202-211.nextgentel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 10:18:10 so Jan 13 10:18:12 <-- khronus has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 10:18:17 soz on the phone Jan 13 10:18:30 --> _SiegeX (1000@adsl-67-122-204-69.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 10:18:32 chmod a+rwxt /tmp Jan 13 10:18:36 will it work like that Jan 13 10:18:46 whats 'a' ? Jan 13 10:18:52 all Jan 13 10:19:10 all owner group others + all Jan 13 10:19:12 so i type it exactly as above Jan 13 10:19:19 --> radiohead (~dev_loop@80.80.160.51) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 10:19:28 yes Jan 13 10:19:37 ok Jan 13 10:19:38 1 sec Jan 13 10:19:43 then shall i try and startx Jan 13 10:19:45 morning Jan 13 10:21:46 <-- riken has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 10:22:25 did thaT Then startx Jan 13 10:22:28 but no luck Jan 13 10:22:40 should i delete /.Xauthority ? Jan 13 10:24:02 khronus_, You mean ~/.Xauthority? Jan 13 10:24:42 i mean /home/khronus/.Xauthority Jan 13 10:24:43 --> _kop_ (~trillian@64-40-57-206.nocharge.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 10:27:10 yes, get rid of it Jan 13 10:27:41 --> Analyzer (~Analyzer@ts3-a229.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 10:30:11 <-- SiegeX has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 10:30:42 --> Vayn0r (~vayne@CPE0050047e7f32-CM0f2049994695.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 10:31:20 --> JackaLX (~steve@JackaLX.project-lead.sxemacs) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 10:31:38 hi for all!!! Jan 13 10:31:56 --> toor (~sterling@67-138-137-160.br1.fod.ia.frontiernet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 10:31:56 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@*.br?.fod.ia.frontiernet.net Jan 13 10:31:56 <-- nixor has kicked toor from ##slackware (banned:you were supposed to be permbanned @ ops, this guy has been a thorn in ##slackware for ages. i'm permbanning him....again) Jan 13 10:32:21 :O Jan 13 10:32:59 whats program i will can watch flash files??? Jan 13 10:33:55 hrmmm that's a good question Jan 13 10:35:19 <-- phiend has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 10:35:36 you can't play it through your browser with the flash plugin? Jan 13 10:35:57 i know Jan 13 10:36:15 but is software special for playing flash files Jan 13 10:36:22 flash player Jan 13 10:36:47 Vayn0r, i can, but i want via else program Jan 13 10:38:39 <-- epic has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 10:40:34 Analyzer: maybe try this http://www.swift-tools.net/Flash/ Jan 13 10:40:44 --> deufo (~deufo@n219077135170.netvigator.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 10:41:03 how come when i open a terminal emulator, it starts at ~/.fluxbox? Jan 13 10:44:23 b/c you started X in ~/.fluxbox Jan 13 10:44:46 --> sami (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 10:45:53 o rite Jan 13 10:46:15 how do i check if my drivers for my display card is working Jan 13 10:46:29 when i do lspci, it says its an unknown device Jan 13 10:48:15 aren't you already in X? Jan 13 10:48:19 <-- sami__ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 10:48:38 you can check glxinfo and xvinfo Jan 13 10:48:51 or did you start it with the vesa driver? Jan 13 10:49:45 i started it with nvidia driver Jan 13 10:50:13 if it started....it should be working :) Jan 13 10:50:21 ok Jan 13 10:50:29 and how come my clock keeps unsyncing? Jan 13 10:50:56 is the clock set wrong in the bios? Jan 13 10:51:05 no Jan 13 10:51:09 it was corrct when i booted Jan 13 10:51:13 now its 30 mins behid Jan 13 10:51:18 Vayn0r, ok, i'll try it... thanks Jan 13 10:51:19 my comp was on for 3 days Jan 13 10:51:29 hrmmm not sure, you can sync it with ntpdate i believe Jan 13 10:51:54 ntpdate? Jan 13 10:53:46 yeah http://www.ntp.org/ Jan 13 10:53:56 i installed that once, works well Jan 13 10:54:19 ok Jan 13 10:54:29 is there a php editor for slackware? Jan 13 10:54:54 like zend or something Jan 13 10:54:55 <-- Analyzer has quit ("Quit") Jan 13 10:55:07 quanta, nedit, scite, to name a very few Jan 13 10:55:22 But Zend is more of an IDE Jan 13 10:55:42 which one u think is best Jan 13 10:56:02 Depends what you want it to do... Jan 13 10:56:13 My personal preference is Nedit Jan 13 10:56:27 ty Jan 13 10:58:32 deufo: This should keep you occupied for a while: http://www.thelinuxconsultancy.co.uk/phpeditors/ Jan 13 10:59:07 oooooo Jan 13 10:59:07 thx Jan 13 11:00:33 is there a way to make my clock not unsync? Jan 13 11:00:44 --> sdogi_ (~java@84-50-18-66-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 11:01:18 --> Guse (~Guse@200-215-102-006.jvece7003.e.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 11:01:46 --> TaQ (~TaQ@200.211.78.140) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 11:02:41 --> Tw33Ty (~Tw33Ty@81.10.60.89) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 11:03:33 <-- Vayn0r (~vayne@CPE0050047e7f32-CM0f2049994695.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!") Jan 13 11:07:03 --> linux_newbie_01 (~linux-new@commons10k1.mo24.107.117.140.charter-stl.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 11:07:06 hey ya everyone Jan 13 11:07:09 anyone here? Jan 13 11:07:27 Is there a way to 'repair' a Slackware installation? I seem to be having strange issues with a workstation Jan 13 11:07:46 it's a -current install, however, none of the other -current WS' I have exhibit the issues Jan 13 11:08:06 what issues inflex? Jan 13 11:08:13 <-- drewp has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 11:08:26 linux_newbie_01: well, when I try to run OpenOffice, things run fine as root, but segfaults with any other users Jan 13 11:08:34 I can't even install OpenOffice as a user Jan 13 11:08:53 Also, occasionally xdm fails to start on boot Jan 13 11:09:08 <-- eelriverlt (~murph@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) has left ##slackware ("Gonna try something, I hope I'll be back") Jan 13 11:09:53 * fred87 isn't looking forward to compiling OOo... Jan 13 11:10:02 sounds like a permissions issue - but even strace fails to explicitly reveal where the issue may lie Jan 13 11:10:43 to the basics, is your $path set right? Jan 13 11:10:48 (normally strace is good for things like that) Jan 13 11:11:07 linux_newbie_01: yes Jan 13 11:11:08 inflex: i have issues with sunbird. Jan 13 11:11:18 ZipKid: you tried running strace with it? Jan 13 11:11:18 th NON-GTK2 version works.. Jan 13 11:11:24 ie, strace sunbird Jan 13 11:11:27 --> drewp (~drewp@a.mx.bigasterisk.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 11:11:30 strace tells nothing usefull.. Jan 13 11:11:46 I'm running 0.2RC1 Jan 13 11:11:53 I think I also had to get the non-GTK2 Jan 13 11:11:56 inflex, strace does not give you a poit of failure? Jan 13 11:12:08 linux_newbie_01: nope :-( I might try ltrace next Jan 13 11:12:13 however, ltrace can sure take a long time Jan 13 11:13:22 <-- sdogi has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 11:14:01 <-- AcIdR3IgN has quit () Jan 13 11:14:26 --> button (~daemon@ns.sevsky.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 11:14:38 inflex, hrm, i know that when i was starting out(few days ago) i had a problem with installing something, turned out that during the "getting to know" stage of my box, i somehow chowned a few things that i shouldn't have....did you check if you cuold install as root or another user? Jan 13 11:16:15 Yes, I was able to install as root - that's something I mentioned before ;-) Jan 13 11:16:38 <-- khronus_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 11:16:46 --> frogger^ (frogger@J3e46.j.pppool.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 11:16:53 it -sounds- like a permissions issue Jan 13 11:17:00 however, it could also be a path difference issue Jan 13 11:17:03 <-- bsdevious has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 11:17:07 ie, order of paths Jan 13 11:17:14 since root usually has a different path setup to usere Jan 13 11:17:33 what gets me confused though is that everything was working dandy until yesterday :-\ Jan 13 11:17:57 --> humphrey (~mark@p5080649C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 11:19:40 gotta love situations like that - all is well, then BAM, it's all not working Jan 13 11:20:16 inflex, yeah i would compare the path selection and try installing as a "fresh-made-user" Jan 13 11:20:20 esp when youve done nothing (apparently) different - incidently, I don't use the machine, the machine is used by my wife and her mother, both just use OpenOffice and Firefix Jan 13 11:20:22 Firefox Jan 13 11:20:33 linux_newbie_01: did try the 'fresh user' thing - again, no luck Jan 13 11:20:35 <-- deufo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 11:20:53 inflex, right on, yeah it has to be a permissions thing Jan 13 11:21:19 inflex, unless you want to put "act of god" as a cause, that would be my guess Jan 13 11:22:12 well anyone here use fluxbox?...having trouble finding fbsetbg Jan 13 11:22:23 * inflex uses fluxbox Jan 13 11:22:30 I just use wmsetbg Jan 13 11:22:36 or even xv Jan 13 11:22:42 can you use transparency? Jan 13 11:22:46 for your terminals Jan 13 11:22:51 with a custom backround? Jan 13 11:22:51 oh, haven't tried any of that Jan 13 11:23:11 <-- Too_Rude has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 11:23:17 try it out real quick with gnome-terminal if you don't mind? Jan 13 11:23:38 should be here /usr/X11R6/bin/fbsetbg Jan 13 11:24:06 eelriver, i have looked everywhere, can't find it :( Jan 13 11:24:18 bsetbg works Jan 13 11:24:26 How did you install fluxbox? Jan 13 11:24:29 Resonance, for transparency? Jan 13 11:24:34 linux_newbie_01: gnometerminal works with FB + transparency here Jan 13 11:24:40 eelriver, from source like i did everything else ;/ Jan 13 11:24:48 Yes. Jan 13 11:24:49 inflex, cool thanks man Jan 13 11:24:51 np Jan 13 11:25:27 so bsetbg and wmsetbg work Jan 13 11:25:42 inflex, set that up in the .fluxbox/init ? Jan 13 11:25:56 no, I just remember to run it now and then Jan 13 11:26:02 otherwise, I usually have a plain blue background Jan 13 11:26:06 Look in /usr/local/bin then Jan 13 11:26:13 eelriver, i did :( Jan 13 11:26:30 Which version? Jan 13 11:26:44 .1.4 iirc, one second ill double check Jan 13 11:27:49 Mine's in /usr/local/bin. I compiled from source. Jan 13 11:28:51 --> phiend (~phiend@64.86.231.103) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 11:29:47 <-- heviarti has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 13 11:30:13 0.1.14 is the versio Jan 13 11:30:18 version Jan 13 11:31:55 I've got 0.9.11 I compiled with a slackBuild script, so mines where Pat meant it to be Jan 13 11:32:21 No idea why it wouldn't be there Jan 13 11:32:33 ill grab the beta version...see what happens with it Jan 13 11:32:56 linux_newbie_01, Are you running -current? Jan 13 11:33:50 eelriver, if by "-current" you mean downloaded latest stable from fluxbox.sourceforge.net yes Jan 13 11:34:10 linux_newbie_01, No, slackware -current Jan 13 11:34:13 --> umair (~umair@202.147.174.97) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 11:34:26 hi fred87 Jan 13 11:34:34 hi all Jan 13 11:34:37 eelriver, running slack10, upgrading to 2.6.10 kernel atm Jan 13 11:36:15 linux_newbie_01, OK, never mind, I've got a fluxbox-0.9.11-i686-1.tgz I built, but it's compiled on -current and wouldn't do you any good Jan 13 11:36:43 eelriver, whats up with -current? Jan 13 11:36:52 eelriver, and where can i read up on it? Jan 13 11:37:00 eelriver, can you decrypt this " INIT: couldnot execute /sbin/agetty" Jan 13 11:37:09 this is what i get while booting slack 10 Jan 13 11:37:25 linux_newbie_01, It's what will become the next release. Jan 13 11:37:33 eelriver, got ya beta Jan 13 11:37:36 slackware 10, the downloaded ver daent support SMP :( Jan 13 11:37:42 --> hatram (~ferhat@62.248.27.107) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 11:37:47 hi Jan 13 11:38:17 my problem is that Jan 13 11:38:33 I have just installed slackware 10 to my machine Jan 13 11:38:47 yeah? Jan 13 11:38:57 I can see my dos partitioins /fat-c /fat-d Jan 13 11:39:03 but I cant enter them Jan 13 11:39:06 thats not a big problem havran, going in the right direction... Jan 13 11:39:09 it gives error Jan 13 11:39:16 too much fat for me :) Jan 13 11:39:30 :) Jan 13 11:40:00 what is the wrong Jan 13 11:40:11 --> frogger___ (~frogger_@roc-66-67-58-171.rochester.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 11:40:31 linux what should I do Jan 13 11:40:35 umair, Is this a new install, or what's changed since it worked last? Jan 13 11:41:01 hi Jan 13 11:41:04 hatram, don't know, as the name says im a newbie but i would type in "mount" with no options and see whats mounted Jan 13 11:42:02 tewmten, hey ya Jan 13 11:42:09 hatram: are yo root? Jan 13 11:42:25 what's going on? Jan 13 11:42:52 woot compile is done...now to try it out... 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Jan 13 12:02:46 checking for png_read_info in -lpng... no Jan 13 12:02:48 ? :| Jan 13 12:03:00 but I've got the libpng package installed Jan 13 12:03:11 trying to ./configure bandwidthd-2.0.1 Jan 13 12:03:27 --> Dagmar (dagmar@pcp490559pcs.nash01.tn.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 12:03:31 <-- button has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 13 12:03:45 <-- inflex has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 12:03:54 --> inflex (~PLD@dsl-171.156.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 12:05:02 <-- hatram has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 12:08:22 --> identd (mike@pcp03386212pcs.towerd01.fl.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 12:11:07 --> crackjack (1000@ip5452b530.speed.planet.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 12:13:57 --> LSD`_ (~ianweb@dsl-202-173-165-134.wa.westnet.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 12:14:51 <-- crackjack has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 12:19:55 --> straterra (~straterra@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 12:20:50 <-- humphrey has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 13 12:20:58 <-- Packeteer has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 12:22:21 --> Packeteer (~zed@53.75.233.220.exetel.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 12:25:54 --> SUperJky (SuicidJky@S010600095bfe9d1b.mh.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 12:25:59 --> rlm (~rlm@n216.isratek.edunet.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 12:26:11 --> crackjack (1000@ip5452b530.speed.planet.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 12:26:37 <-- rlm has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 12:27:03 <-- fxer has quit ("Do it byte by byte") Jan 13 12:27:14 --> rlm (~rlm@n216.isratek.edunet.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 12:27:32 <-- JackaLX has quit ("BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") 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Jan 13 13:23:44 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Ottawa-ppp326266.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 13:23:59 --> adjacent (~scott@63.209.153.101) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 13:34:28 --> Gartt_ (~brian@ip68-14-81-92.ri.ri.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 13:34:28 <-- logged has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 13:34:32 <-- adjacent has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 13:35:49 <-- r00tsh3ll has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 13:36:24 --> qmasterrr (1000@pD9E66754.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 13:39:00 <-- Drago5 (drago5@CBL212-235-21-172.bb.netvision.net.il) has left ##slackware ("Client exiting") Jan 13 13:39:59 anyone >> configure: error: *** reiserfsprogs library (libreiserfs) not found Jan 13 13:40:20 i just installed reiserfsprogs Jan 13 13:40:53 Suuuuure you did Jan 13 13:41:14 <-- kspud has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 13:41:18 Dagmar: yes Jan 13 13:41:47 So where'd you install it then? Jan 13 13:41:53 Dagmar: im trying 2 install qtparted Jan 13 13:41:56 --> m[a]zzanet (~mazzanet@mazzanet.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 13:42:10 root@Slackware:/home/slack# installpkg /data/slackware-current/slackware/a/reiserfsprogs-3.6.18-i486-1.tgz Jan 13 13:42:11 DagaZ Jan 13 13:42:25 ups Dagmar Jan 13 13:42:26 :) Jan 13 13:42:49 Dagmar: Executing install script for reiserfsprogs-3.6.18-i486-1... Jan 13 13:43:37 And I'm supposed to care about that why? Jan 13 13:43:44 <-- umair has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 13:44:00 not at all Dagmar Jan 13 13:44:06 Pasting to me the results of you installing canned slackware packages isn't going to change the fact that you have yet to install what that program needs. Jan 13 13:44:36 Slackware doens't come with a shared library for reiserfs access Jan 13 13:44:43 Dagmar: yes but i thought it must b reiserlib there, so i past error for helping me Jan 13 13:44:56 Do you know how to use vi or pico? Jan 13 13:45:01 yes Jan 13 13:45:03 pico Jan 13 13:45:23 vi /var/log/packages/reiserfsprogs-3.6.18-i486-1 would have told you whether or not the file was in there Jan 13 13:45:40 Dagmar: thx Jan 13 13:45:43 or simply `grep libreiserfs /var/log/packages/*` Jan 13 13:46:00 Or... (and you'd better bookmark this) http://www.slackware.com/pb/ Jan 13 13:46:01 --- _radius is now known as radius Jan 13 13:50:03 <-- Gartt has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 13:51:22 --> kayali (~kayali@APoitiers-106-1-13-169.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 13:51:50 <-- okmeufilho has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 13:54:15 --> kiwi_uk (~kiwi_uk@212.219.225.104) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 13:54:55 --> okmeufilho (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 13:55:05 Dagmar: ok ok Jan 13 13:55:17 again thx Jan 13 13:55:17 <-- kayali has quit ("Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/") Jan 13 13:56:00 why I am banned from #et?!?! Jan 13 13:56:35 ask phrag, he banned you Jan 13 13:57:09 <-- wobbles (~huntsman@177.cust6.sa.dsl.ozemail.com.au) has left ##slackware ("Off to find a life....") Jan 13 13:57:20 <-- mazzanet has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 13:57:26 --> mazzanet (~mazzanet@mazzanet.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 13:59:02 why? Jan 13 14:01:35 dunno, ask phrag I said Jan 13 14:02:06 Hi, have some way to make fetchmail not ask the password for my POP3 server? Jan 13 14:03:24 <-- d_low has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 14:03:47 --> d_low (~d_low@adsl-065-013-004-194.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 14:07:03 <-- crackjack has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 14:10:38 --> sunbx (~awx@82.76.44.123) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 14:10:46 --> mako-sam1 (1000@82.194.41.73) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 14:10:53 how can i chmod a file that the owner of it can read but not modify ? Jan 13 14:11:02 --> skitz0|work (~skitz0|wo@host29-162.dissent.birch.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 14:11:42 sunbx: If the "owner" in question isn't root, as root you can `chattr +i filename` Jan 13 14:11:59 That makes the file "immutable" so they can append to it, but not change existing contents. Jan 13 14:12:13 See `man chattr` for more interesting ext3 file atrributes Jan 13 14:13:55 chattr does not work Jan 13 14:14:09 --> nachox (~nacho@200-122-58-21.dsl.prima.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 14:14:17 chattr +Aais motd Jan 13 14:14:17 chattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device while reading flags on motd Jan 13 14:16:38 <-- m[a]zzanet has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 14:18:08 --> SlackShrike (~robinho@200199066108.user.veloxzone.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 14:18:51 --> Kurt (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 14:18:52 chattr only works on ext2 and ext3 iirc Jan 13 14:19:14 <-- DarkTide_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 14:19:39 sunbx: chmod 400 motd Jan 13 14:19:50 then the owner can read it, but not modify it Jan 13 14:19:56 thx Jan 13 14:19:56 :) Jan 13 14:19:59 np Jan 13 14:20:15 <-- notYet has quit ("BitchX: need we say more?") Jan 13 14:20:24 from the man page "chattr changes the file attributes on a Linux second extended file system." Jan 13 14:20:25 <-- SlackShrike has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 14:21:57 i know chattr just that wasn't available Jan 13 14:24:25 <-- mako-sama has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 14:24:28 Then you're not on a Slackware machine, and therefore, not our problem. Jan 13 14:24:35 Thanks, drive through. Jan 13 14:25:07 chmod 400 blah is not going to stop the owner from doing anytyhing to the file. Jan 13 14:26:23 --> j0k3r (~rddalceno@200.189.78.206) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 14:27:06 he can always change the perms again Jan 13 14:27:16 A false sense of security is only slightly worse than a sharp blow to the skull Jan 13 14:28:17 <-- nachox has quit ("brb") Jan 13 14:28:37 Because you're on a crappy filesystem Jan 13 14:30:14 eh Jan 13 14:30:29 he asked how he can make the owner just read not modify the file Jan 13 14:30:38 400 gives the owner read access to it, nothing else Jan 13 14:30:47 --> SuicidJky (SuicidJky@S010600095bfe9d1b.mh.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 14:31:50 1. I got immutable slightly backwards... +a is append-only mode, immutable is a completely unchangeable file. Jan 13 14:32:08 2. chmod 700 foo ; echo "pwned" > foo ; chmod 400 foo Jan 13 14:32:42 Trying to stop the owner of a file from doing _anything_ to it is *futile* without special support from the filesystem. Jan 13 14:33:34 --> anonymouz666 (~666@200.218.192.3) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 14:33:51 but he asked how to chmod the file so he can read but not write to it Jan 13 14:34:06 one question, the package perl 5.8.6 was compiled with suidperl? i need this program to run openwebmail. Jan 13 14:34:29 anonymouz666: check the SlackBuild file Jan 13 14:34:42 anonymouz666: Nope. Jan 13 14:34:51 suidperl is not safe on most systems Jan 13 14:35:09 I need this binary Jan 13 14:35:14 recompile perl then Jan 13 14:35:23 tewmten: chmod 400 isn't it. Jan 13 14:35:28 this is not good. Jan 13 14:35:31 Dagmar: what is it then? Jan 13 14:35:33 It just looks like it on the surface Jan 13 14:35:42 but how else can you do it with chmod? Jan 13 14:36:04 temten: It's not *possible* without special help from the filesystem, and if he's using vfat, he's out of luck anyway Jan 13 14:36:26 chattr +i filename as root makes the filename completely unchangeable to _everyone_, including root. Jan 13 14:36:50 but can't one just do chattr -i filename as root to remove that rule? Jan 13 14:36:55 You can _not_ perform that trick with chmod. Period. Jan 13 14:37:01 Yeah, but only root can do that Jan 13 14:37:16 then it's not completly safe either Jan 13 14:37:42 But, like I said, so long as the owner isn't root, it _can_ be done with chattr. Jan 13 14:38:37 chattr won't help him if he doesn't run ext2 or ext3, and he told us it didn't work either Jan 13 14:38:49 so telling him to use chattr is just pointless Jan 13 14:38:52 ...and reiserfs also supports those flags Jan 13 14:39:08 ...and I'm pretty sure xfs does as well. Jan 13 14:39:12 tewmten what is slack build ? Jan 13 14:39:21 anonymouz666: the build script for the package Jan 13 14:39:30 Which means he's doing it on a vfat filesystem, which has _virtually no security_ so he's out of luck. Jan 13 14:39:35 where do i find it Jan 13 14:40:13 anonymouz666: If you can't find it, I wouldn't get too excited. Perl is dead easy to build (provided you read the docs that come with it that tell you what four commands to run) and basically you just need to let it use all the defaults except for the question about suidperl Jan 13 14:40:15 well permission control on vfat is non-existant, so the whole argument we're having is just useless if that is the situation. Jan 13 14:40:40 ...and yet somehow I said it wasn't possible on vfat earlier and it was ignored. Jan 13 14:40:43 well, close to non-existant, you can do a few stuff with umask and such when you mount it Jan 13 14:40:57 sunbx: what fs are you using? Jan 13 14:41:26 --> Polleke (polleke@polleke.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 14:41:30 * Dagmar puts his money on that crazy msdosfs Jan 13 14:41:37 fuck it, I'm gonna get some lunch instead Jan 13 14:41:47 --> Gartt (~brian@ip68-14-81-92.ri.ri.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 14:42:07 or perhaps it's just a cardboard box with small ones and zeros on papers :)) Jan 13 14:42:11 <-- Packeteer has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 14:43:54 --> StevenR (~foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 14:44:59 if you want to make something nonaccessable why won't you use something like encryption Jan 13 14:45:17 Umm... you might wanna scroll up. ;) Jan 13 14:45:28 <-- Kurt has quit ("People who think porn degrades women obviously haven't heard of feminism") Jan 13 14:45:30 afternoon ##slackware! Jan 13 14:45:52 We're bored and being pedantic. You don't want to walk into this facing the wrong direction like that Jan 13 14:46:21 well i'm tired to scroll up Jan 13 14:47:29 Well, someone wanted to know how to prevent the owner of a file from modifying it. Jan 13 14:48:15 as not being able to read/write or change permissions? Jan 13 14:48:20 --> Packeteer (~zed@53.75.233.220.exetel.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 14:48:32 It's kind of ill-advised to have that sort of situation in the first place, but it _is_ possible, if your fs supports some of the more modern flags. You can use chattr to restrict modification of files by their owners (IF YOU ARE ROOT, it requires special priv'd access to the filesystem to do this)... Jan 13 14:48:58 ...in a couple of different ways. Delete-only, append-only, completely unchangeable, and so on Jan 13 14:49:20 anyway, what does he want to accomplish Jan 13 14:49:35 Actually the only way to lock permissions on a file that I know of would be to take away write permissions for the containing directory Jan 13 14:50:00 He wanted to prevent a user from modifying a file, while still allowing them to read it (and retain ownership) Jan 13 14:50:36 hm Jan 13 14:50:47 how can i chmod a file that the owner of it can read but not modify ? Jan 13 14:50:56 what's wrong with using group? Jan 13 14:51:05 Considering he got this our of chattr: Jan 13 14:51:08 like on my server i have group called download Jan 13 14:51:25 they can read it, they can't write or change permissions because they really don't own the file, or dir Jan 13 14:51:41 chattr +Aais motd Jan 13 14:51:42 chattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device while reading flags on motd Jan 13 14:51:58 ...he's just about gotta be using vfat or msdosfs there Jan 13 14:52:01 semantically the owner of a file is supposed to be able to do what he wants with it Jan 13 14:52:14 else it's just rented =) Jan 13 14:52:17 yep Jan 13 14:52:28 Dagmar: oh, that's sader Jan 13 14:53:12 If he got that message, it's vfat or msdosfs. Group permissions aren't going to exist in any meaningful sense either Jan 13 14:53:20 but... hm isn't it possible to take away vfat's writing permission like with ntfs Jan 13 14:53:31 with ntfs it's default ofcourse.. but.. Jan 13 14:53:33 ah forget it Jan 13 14:53:38 Nope, not in any sense more meaningful than chmod 400 Jan 13 14:53:49 <-- sunbx has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 14:53:59 NTFS lets you have that kind of granularity, aside from it's not safe to write to it under Linux. ;) Jan 13 14:54:19 sure that groups don't exist? like static user/group done with uid=,gid= Jan 13 14:54:26 then owner can move the files in place Jan 13 14:54:34 and people in group can only read Jan 13 14:54:47 :)= Jan 13 14:55:00 permissions never change, all the files have the same permissions Jan 13 14:55:09 He's pretty much _have_ to do that for vfat mounts Jan 13 14:55:14 s/He's/He'd Jan 13 14:55:59 mount /dev/hd?? /some/place -o uid=owner,gid=group,umask=022 Jan 13 14:56:14 something like that Jan 13 14:57:03 --> minus6 (minus_6@dsl-roigw3h57.dial.inet.fi) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 14:57:22 hm Jan 13 14:57:38 actually if you do umask=222 then it's right Jan 13 14:57:48 then even owner, even root can't modify files Jan 13 14:57:53 <-- Gartt_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 14:57:53 --> fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@bluecow.niesc.k12.in.us) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 14:58:00 only if he unmounts and remounts it with umask=022 Jan 13 14:58:05 hey all Jan 13 14:58:13 buh what? Jan 13 14:58:30 1. Root can write to and modify whatever it wants. Jan 13 14:58:42 Argh Jan 13 14:58:54 2. The only exception to this are fs-enforced lower-level flags, such as chattr/lsattr access. Jan 13 14:59:01 --> rh0` (~rolando@205.241.35.189) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 14:59:10 I've had apache running for something like... 30 hours on my box and already I've got massive logfiles of crap from windos worms. Jan 13 14:59:33 Dagmar: well i'm not sure but i think that when you mount vfat/ntfs/msdosfs and set umask to 222 then root can't do anything Jan 13 14:59:33 3. umask 022 is definitely not going to slow root down, and doesn't address the problem of the owner still being able to modify their files. Jan 13 14:59:51 he has to mount it with 022 umask Jan 13 15:00:00 Actually, I'm pretty sure root can do whatever it wants to vfat. Jan 13 15:00:18 because as i remember you can't control filepermissions... anything like that at all when fs has been mounted Jan 13 15:00:32 If I had a clue what IP lanshark was on at the moment I'd shell in there and test it Jan 13 15:00:55 i can't test it either right now, because i don't have that vfat anymore :( Jan 13 15:01:24 once i had ftp servers hdd in vfat Jan 13 15:01:56 But either way, the moment you mount with umask 222, I'm pretty sure the whole thing becomes non-writeable for anyone who can't override it, so you might as well set fixed permissions instead of masking Jan 13 15:02:04 i'm not 100 % sure, but i think i faced problems like that... when i mounted fs with umask=222 Jan 13 15:02:12 that i wasn't able to write on it even with root Jan 13 15:02:55 * Dagmar smacks his forehead. Jan 13 15:03:01 Doh. Loopback. One moment Jan 13 15:03:25 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 15:03:47 --> adjacent (~scott@63.209.153.130) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 15:03:59 still, i don't get the point, he wants owner to be able read files but not change them? why doesn't he just use groups or give files to some other user Jan 13 15:04:19 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Montreal-ppp128079.qc.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 15:04:31 dumb question: im on a slackware server and i cant remember if it 9.1 or 10, how do i determine this? Jan 13 15:05:25 actually didn't know it too Jan 13 15:05:34 but there is a slackware-version file under /etc Jan 13 15:06:15 /etc/slackware-version Jan 13 15:06:21 --> Dominian (~dominian@dominian.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 15:06:22 * Kyle_S ponders.... Jan 13 15:06:31 wow. i didnt know that file even existed. thanks Jan 13 15:06:37 sdogi_: I was right. Jan 13 15:06:45 <-- okmeufilho has quit ("Fui embora") Jan 13 15:06:48 Dagmar: congrats Jan 13 15:06:53 chattr +Aais motd Jan 13 15:06:54 chattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device while reading flags on motd Jan 13 15:07:00 bleh. Damn this screwey C+P command Jan 13 15:07:15 root@pixie:/home/dagmar# mount -t vfat -o loop,umask=222 floppy.img /mnt Jan 13 15:07:48 --> Tom^ (~thomas@tom-00001.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 15:07:59 root@pixie:/home/dagmar# echo "foo" > /mnt/foo.txt Jan 13 15:07:59 root@pixie:/home/dagmar# Jan 13 15:08:02 No error Jan 13 15:09:43 hm, nice Jan 13 15:10:02 i wonder where i did a mistake then Jan 13 15:10:14 are there more fat filesystems, other than vfat? Jan 13 15:10:38 Yeah, there's outright msdos Jan 13 15:10:42 still, the problem... i can't see what is being tried to accomplish Jan 13 15:10:48 it wasn't msdos for sure Jan 13 15:10:54 But only root gets to blithely skate by non-writeable directories Jan 13 15:11:09 Since you'd have to have been insane to have that ftpd writing things as root, that's probably why you couldn't write to it Jan 13 15:12:17 well Jan 13 15:12:30 it was readonly anyway Jan 13 15:12:41 no upload Jan 13 15:13:36 --> scvoz (~scvoz@ppp83-237-208-55.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 15:14:48 <-- anonymouz666 has quit () Jan 13 15:14:51 sdogi_: yup. Jan 13 15:14:55 sdogi_: what whatsup? Jan 13 15:16:00 sdogi_: I think there are fat12 fat16 fat32 and umsdos filesystmes. But erumm... msdos supposrts fat 12 and 16, vfat supports 32 and umsdos supports (wow you guessed it) umsdos. Jan 13 15:16:43 then it maby was mounted as msdos Jan 13 15:16:58 nah Jan 13 15:17:05 * Kyle_S nods Jan 13 15:17:14 i had windows 98 on it Jan 13 15:17:32 sdogi_: you can always specify to mount that it should be read only, or read write, or read write no exec or all sorts of stuff. Jan 13 15:17:35 then it must have been fat32 Jan 13 15:17:56 Erumm, ok this has been ages since I've had to do this.... how do you check who controls an ip block? Jan 13 15:18:00 yeah, but usually root can override them, with that hdd i couldn't Jan 13 15:18:06 sdogi_: Uhh? Jan 13 15:18:12 Kyle_S: whois Jan 13 15:18:31 thats not cool... are you sure it was win98 and not nt/2k/2k--(ie xp) Jan 13 15:18:34 --> rignes (~rignes@000D615723FD.msns.sm.ptd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 15:18:40 yup Jan 13 15:18:55 UdontKnow: that works with ip blocks? Jan 13 15:19:00 <_erik> vfat supports fat16 Jan 13 15:19:01 heh guess it has been awhile for me. Jan 13 15:19:11 Kyle_S: sure Jan 13 15:19:15 _erik: Really? OK. Jan 13 15:19:18 it was full of pictures taken with my old canon a20 and i shared them through ftp Jan 13 15:19:20 * Kyle_S doesn't use fat drives much. Jan 13 15:19:28 * sdogi_ either actually Jan 13 15:19:33 works with ip blocks, domains and AS numbers Jan 13 15:19:41 depending on the whois server you use Jan 13 15:20:49 <_erik> i dont use them either, but cf and sd cards (for pda, camera, etc) are fat16 out of the box Jan 13 15:21:08 UdontKnow: K. I recall using some other way of looking up who it belonged to before, but were going back umm 8 years. :) Jan 13 15:21:22 <-- minus6 has quit () Jan 13 15:22:40 Kyle_S: hehe Jan 13 15:23:48 --> logged (1000@rrcs-24-227-56-178.se.biz.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 15:24:04 Humm... ok that makes sense, this one worm is attacking from another comcrap cable user. Jan 13 15:27:55 Ohh wait.... are the POST http://82.96.96.3:802/ lines in the apache access log freenodes open proxy scan? Jan 13 15:30:42 * Kyle_S shuffles off to #freenode Jan 13 15:31:37 Kyle_S: Almost certainly Jan 13 15:32:37 --> Laura (nisse16@200.226.102.123) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 15:33:13 Dagmar: Well thats kindof what I thought, since iirc thats how a proxy appears in a log...but if I were to write a malicious worm that used proxies, I would sure as hell try and make it look like it was a legitimate proxy scan! 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Jan 13 15:54:19 paste the errors to a pastebin Jan 13 15:54:24 hi all Jan 13 15:54:28 fred87, u there dude? Jan 13 15:54:36 a screen shot might also be useful sunbx Jan 13 15:54:46 its loads , it boots , and says disk error Jan 13 15:54:48 wait Jan 13 15:54:50 StevenR, can you paste your /etc/fstab...i messed up with mine.. Jan 13 15:55:05 --> Marverick (~slack4eve@200.96.203.45) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 15:55:34 umair: http://rafb.net/paste/results/WtZnd855.html Jan 13 15:55:38 where shalt i put the screenshot ? Jan 13 15:55:50 sunbx: dunno...webspace? Jan 13 15:56:05 ok wait Jan 13 15:57:02 Man, why is everyone so stingy with the partitions Jan 13 15:57:15 Dagmar: eh? Jan 13 15:57:25 <-- Gartt has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 15:57:48 StevenR: Why no /tmp and /var? Jan 13 15:58:00 StevenR http://www.sunbx.as.ro/ups.jpg Jan 13 15:58:02 Dagmar: why would I need a /tmp and /var? Jan 13 15:58:19 as separate partitions i mean Jan 13 15:58:20 that is after i installed the system from that iso. Jan 13 15:58:36 sunbx: what command did you run? Jan 13 15:58:38 Oh, I dunno, offhand I'd say to keep processes from filling /tmp completely resulting in loss of data going to syslogs in /var, or vice-versa Jan 13 15:58:55 --> MAN_Hater (~Too_Rude@adsl-70-240-98-75.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 15:58:56 You know, just fundamental system stability stuff. Jan 13 15:59:09 Dagmar: my sytem is perfectly stable. Jan 13 15:59:32 StevenR the command is in the screenshot. Jan 13 15:59:40 So is any WinXP box, until you start poking at it a bit. Jan 13 15:59:41 * MAN_Hater spanks my confused client Jan 13 15:59:59 <-- tintin has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 16:00:06 Dagmar: but I poke this box alot, and it doesn't break. Jan 13 16:00:27 sunbx: the command is wrong. Jan 13 16:00:32 Yeah, but the moment you fill either /tmp or /var (or both and / combined since they're all the same) you will likely see the box go down in flames Jan 13 16:00:56 StevenR why is that ? Jan 13 16:01:10 sunbx: cos it canty find the disk to boot. Jan 13 16:01:37 speaking of filling /var - eh is there a good log reader in slackware - and since I am lazy is the one that greps for words of trouble ? Jan 13 16:01:42 Dagmar: and what would happen if I had separate partitions? Jan 13 16:01:48 StevenR the disk to boot is there. Jan 13 16:01:57 sunbx: well it's broken Jan 13 16:01:59 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3072000000 2005-01-13 16:47 hd.img Jan 13 16:02:07 StevenR how can it be broken ? Jan 13 16:02:15 StevenR: Then whatever ran out of disk would die, and not take anything else that wasn't currently trying to write to that same place with it Jan 13 16:02:21 <-- str has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 16:02:25 StevenR: Partitions are cheap. Jan 13 16:02:43 Dagmar I have done that and losr some data also Jan 13 16:03:07 MAN_Hater: I don't lose data anymore, but then I make about a billion partitions if I need to Jan 13 16:03:21 Dagmar: no hookers are cheap Jan 13 16:03:30 do I mean I have filled up a partttion with a log Jan 13 16:04:03 <-- umair has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 16:04:06 Dagmar: still doesn't seem different. If / fills up, then why will the box die? Jan 13 16:04:24 * MAN_Hater mumbles and teasers are expensive Jan 13 16:04:27 MAN_Hater: This firewall has a partition for system logs, a partition for archival system logs, a partition for web server logs... Jan 13 16:04:33 sunbx: well something is wrong with your fake harddisk or command line. Jan 13 16:04:44 sunbx: just boot an iso. Jan 13 16:04:47 StevenR: Not to many things react well to /tmp being full, and writes to /var returning errors Jan 13 16:04:51 dagmar sounds nice - whats it called ? Jan 13 16:04:54 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:05:14 anyone have an answer or log reading software question ? Jan 13 16:05:16 sunbx i boot and iso i install the system but i can't run. Jan 13 16:05:24 Dagmar: so those apps will die. But I'm sure I would notice and be able to unfill / Jan 13 16:05:47 MAN_Hater: Answer to what? Jan 13 16:05:49 sunbx: so iso's work. What are you trying to do? Jan 13 16:06:36 fried bob is there a application for reading logs and since I am lazy is thee one that greps or something the words of interest - ? Jan 13 16:06:48 StevenR: Hehe. You'd think that Jan 13 16:06:54 friedBob or highlights them (trounle words ? Jan 13 16:07:09 --> magikman (~focker@204.251.81.2) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:07:10 MAN_Hater: i read a mag article. i think it was epilog or something Jan 13 16:07:15 Depending on what syslogd implementation you have, /var being full can very easily prevent you from logging in or using su Jan 13 16:07:25 thnx stevenr Jan 13 16:07:39 MAN_Hater: AFAIK, there are apps you can get that analyze logs and optionally alert you, but I can't remember names. Jan 13 16:07:47 Dagmar: i have pats standard syslogd Jan 13 16:08:03 fredbob ok thanx Jan 13 16:08:03 has anyone switched to postfix on slackware? Jan 13 16:08:17 sunbx: what are you trying to do? what have you done? be specific please. Jan 13 16:08:18 StevenR: You ever tested the theory? :) Jan 13 16:08:43 MAN_Hater: http://www.linux.org/apps/all/Administration/Log_Analyzers.html Jan 13 16:08:57 kewl thank you FriedBOB Jan 13 16:09:02 StevenR i am trying to run windows 2003 server. from windows. Jan 13 16:09:07 from linux* err Jan 13 16:09:28 does one come with slackware? Jan 13 16:09:34 Dagmar: I once had my / fill up while I was installing. COuldn't even delete stuff, had to reformat. Jan 13 16:09:36 --> Frost^ (~Weiss@80.230.205.249) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:09:46 FriedBob: It's not a fun time, I'll give you that Jan 13 16:09:48 sunbx: be even more specific. what steps did you do? Jan 13 16:09:55 MAN_Hater: Not sure, haven't looked into that. Jan 13 16:10:00 <-- rlm has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 16:10:01 ok Jan 13 16:10:01 FriedBob: I've seen some systems that just completely freak out when / gets full Jan 13 16:10:08 i did: qemu-img create sys.img 5G Jan 13 16:10:13 after that Jan 13 16:10:18 i copyed that iso of installing Jan 13 16:10:24 qemu -fda /dev/fd0 -hda /database/win/sys.img -cdrom /database/win/install.iso -boot d -m 256 -user-net -pci Jan 13 16:10:38 Dagmar: Yeah, Man this is messed up. Jan 13 16:10:44 Meh Jan 13 16:10:51 Two different lines there. Jan 13 16:11:12 the last one is what i tryed now. Jan 13 16:11:12 :) Jan 13 16:11:15 It was ~60F yesterday, and there's snow on the ground this morning. Jan 13 16:11:17 <-- ptlo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 16:11:32 FriedBob -eh Texas ? Jan 13 16:11:41 MAN_Hater: No, Missouri Jan 13 16:11:55 hehe - was 80F here yesterday - now 40 Jan 13 16:12:05 sunbx: dd of=hd.img bs=1024 seek=1000000 count=0 is what is used to create my harddisk. Jan 13 16:12:11 --> rlm (~rlm@n216.isratek.edunet.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:12:24 sunbx: then partitioned and formated it Jan 13 16:12:34 What's up with the lack of updates in -current ? Jan 13 16:12:38 --> zechim (~lzechim@ravel.cit.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:13:05 StevenR that is what i used some time ago and did not worked. Jan 13 16:13:13 --> d4rkw0lf (~111@201.3.158.242) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:13:15 MAN_Hater: Here's the freshmeat category for ya. http://freshmeat.net/browse/245/ Jan 13 16:13:22 ok what should one do with "messages" in var ? and I notice things have changed over the years from one file to many files (where's a doc on this - anyone ? Jan 13 16:13:32 thanx friedbob Jan 13 16:13:35 sunbx: well it worked for me, I suggest you try it, seeing as your current method is broken Jan 13 16:13:59 <-- duardo has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 16:14:07 MAN_Hater: I noticed all the log files have grown like that. Jan 13 16:14:17 MAN_Hater: I think after complaints from people with low-memory machines trying to open a 4Gb messages file in vi, Pat finally consented to add a rudimentary log cycler to the base install Jan 13 16:14:45 Basically, once a day the current log file is tumbled to .1, all the others are moved down, and the last one is deleted Jan 13 16:14:57 StevenR is it normal to be VERY slow ? Jan 13 16:14:57 man.. I need to take ap icture of my desk... freakin' messy Jan 13 16:15:06 It might be weeks instead of days or something tho. I use my own Jan 13 16:15:10 * Dominian is putting a server together and there is just crap everywhere Jan 13 16:15:11 sunbx: eh? Jan 13 16:15:17 rudementary - thats a cool phrase (yes that is exactly what I am doing now on an loder slackware version (15 meg of messages Jan 13 16:15:36 --> vurte (~haluk@pD953A124.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:15:39 * MAN_Hater cusses adsl-start without stop messages Jan 13 16:15:42 Dominian: I need to take a pic of FrankinBox. Jan 13 16:15:51 is like a normal install of windows 2003 should last about 15 mins but in here i waited 2 hours and did not finished Jan 13 16:15:52 ;) Jan 13 16:16:47 <-- d4rkw0lf (~111@201.3.158.242) has left ##slackware Jan 13 16:16:50 stevenr - did that magazine offer hints on log admin ? if so what mag and article ? Jan 13 16:16:50 sunbx: I have no idea about windows install times. It's a poorly designed, poorly written piece of software which I avoid wherever possible. Jan 13 16:17:18 MAN_Hater: was computer shopper. I dont have it here. borrowed my dad's copy. Jan 13 16:17:33 ok cool thanx for that info tho Jan 13 16:17:36 MAN_Hater: www.computershopper.co.uk i think Jan 13 16:17:45 --> d4rkw0lf (~111@201.3.158.242) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:19:11 --> qfkrbb (~el@p5082E709.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:19:32 StevenR can u specify an alternative then please ? Jan 13 16:19:44 sunbx: alternative to what? Jan 13 16:19:54 running windows from linux. Jan 13 16:19:56 <-- qfkrbb (~el@p5082E709.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has left ##slackware Jan 13 16:20:02 gawd commie 64 is bak - how scarey Jan 13 16:20:15 sunbx: use qemu, just do it properly. Jan 13 16:20:23 StevenR ok... Jan 13 16:20:45 At a penny less than ?30, the Commodore 64 is reincarnated as a 'Direct to TV' model. Although it features the original operating system, coders won't be able to relive their bygone basic days. Nostalgic gamers will be more than catered for though, however, as the C64 gubbins is all contained within a replica Competition Pro 5000 Joystick, along with 30 original games. Jan 13 16:20:47 <-- jmedina has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 16:20:47 lets do it this way. Jan 13 16:20:57 (crys cuz I just sold mine in garage sale Jan 13 16:21:05 dd of=hd.img bs=1024 seek=1000000 count=0 ... first step right ? Jan 13 16:21:18 (poor england - ya'll must not have too many pcs over there (just kidding Jan 13 16:22:31 StevenR Jan 13 16:22:32 root@sunbx:/database/win> dd of=hd.img bs=1024 seek=1000000 count=0 Jan 13 16:22:32 0+0 records in Jan 13 16:22:32 0+0 records out Jan 13 16:22:32 <-- nixor has kicked sunbx from ##slackware (flood) Jan 13 16:22:33 --> sunbx (~awx@82.76.44.123) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:22:37 root@sunbx:/database/win> dd of=hd.img bs=1024 seek=1000000 count=0 Jan 13 16:22:39 0+0 records in Jan 13 16:22:40 0+0 records out Jan 13 16:22:47 is that ok ? Jan 13 16:23:04 seems to be Jan 13 16:23:06 sunbx: Christ you twit you were just kicked for flooding. Then you do it again when you come back in! Jan 13 16:23:18 * Kyle_S sternly shakes his finger, then goes to get some coffee. Jan 13 16:23:19 --> Gartt (~brian@ip68-14-81-92.ri.ri.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:24:38 * sunbx is lame Jan 13 16:24:40 sunbx : uhmm, count=0? Jan 13 16:24:51 hehe Jan 13 16:25:38 dunno StevenR told me that. Jan 13 16:25:42 --> GuBA (~oficina@208.29.128.59) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:26:00 it's from the qemu howto i used Jan 13 16:26:08 <-- GuBA (~oficina@208.29.128.59) has left ##slackware ("http://galeria.gsol.ws") Jan 13 16:26:13 ananke: he's been in here the past few days asking questions. I stopped helping him because most of these answers are on google. Jan 13 16:26:25 Dominian : good idea Jan 13 16:26:28 sunbx : rtfm Jan 13 16:26:44 <-- d4rkw0lf has quit ("ircN 7.27 + 7.0 for mIRC (2002/01/10 00.00)") Jan 13 16:26:51 ananke i did. Jan 13 16:27:03 sunbx : good. now go rtfm yet again. Jan 13 16:27:41 lol Jan 13 16:27:55 sunbx: OK what is going on? Jan 13 16:27:58 i did seleral times. i used qemu-img create sys.img 5G Jan 13 16:28:09 dd is a powerfull tool, but it may require you do some reading to really know it. Jan 13 16:29:12 count=n means dd will copy n blocks (determined by bs which means block size) from if to of. Jan 13 16:30:35 <-- Tom^ has quit () Jan 13 16:31:55 ananke what do you use for /var log files ? Jan 13 16:32:03 root@sunbx:/database/win> dd if=/dev/zero of=hd bs=1024 count=5000000 Jan 13 16:32:07 to read them and delete Jan 13 16:32:10 5 G filesystem should be ok. Jan 13 16:32:24 ((delete or edit Jan 13 16:33:03 MAN_Hater : to read? less/mcedit/etc Jan 13 16:33:14 <-- adjacent has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 16:33:20 to delete them? who deletes log files :) i rotate them, i collect them on a central log server, etc Jan 13 16:33:21 hehe same here - ok thank you Jan 13 16:33:50 ananke - well once you collect them - then what ? do you remove to resize them ? Jan 13 16:34:12 MAN_Hater: erumm, if your box serves stuff to the live& active internet its not a bad idea to just compress and save your logfiles. Jan 13 16:34:13 logrotate Jan 13 16:34:18 I am looking for a doc on what messages mean nothing and can be removed Jan 13 16:34:36 ok thanx kyles Jan 13 16:34:50 MAN_Hater : there is no such thing Jan 13 16:34:55 MAN_Hater: usually you can just set a crontab to rotate your logfiles Jan 13 16:34:58 ok got it logrotate (thanx again Jan 13 16:35:25 --> Pa^2 (~Papa@63.238.104.170) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:36:46 Doesn't slackwar eof a cronjob for log rotation already? Jan 13 16:36:48 <-- Frost^ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 16:36:52 s/of/have Jan 13 16:36:55 anyway.. smoke break Jan 13 16:36:58 Dominian: Yeah, but it's pretty basic Jan 13 16:37:02 Dominian : yeah. it uses logrotate for that. Jan 13 16:38:48 yes on already and seems to do a good job compared to the slackware version 8 I have (with large message file (grin Jan 13 16:38:54 thanx for the help everyone Jan 13 16:38:59 * MAN_Hater goes reading Jan 13 16:39:42 <-- Gartt_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 16:40:52 <-- PiterPunk has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 13 16:44:44 dagmar - remember your post about "patt added a log cycler - whats the name of that and can I find it in /packare browser ? Jan 13 16:44:53 package Jan 13 16:45:36 doh! I did when I compiled 2.6.7 too. :< Left out support for my IDE controller, since was used to it already being selected. Oi. Jan 13 16:46:06 presumes logrotate Jan 13 16:46:55 --> sponix (~sponix@242-195-31-81.ip.eu.tachyon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:49:04 <-- rlm has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 16:49:56 --> avaurus (1000@avaurus.mod.unixboard) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:50:07 hi Jan 13 16:50:15 can't belive all you idle people Jan 13 16:50:21 you should be ashamed ! Jan 13 16:50:25 avaurus: hey Jan 13 16:51:12 I am not idle :) Jan 13 16:51:23 --> rlm (~rlm@n216.isratek.edunet.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:51:25 I noticed that Jan 13 16:51:29 heh Jan 13 16:51:39 * Kyle_S smacks sponix Jan 13 16:51:43 * Kyle_S enjoyed that. Jan 13 16:51:53 See, I'm not idling ;) Jan 13 16:52:21 --> liMbiz (~LinuxSlac@192.100.180.253) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:52:24 MAN_Hater: Your assumption would be correct. Jan 13 16:52:40 thanx dagmar (wink Jan 13 16:52:54 anybody know how can i limit the network usage of scripts ? i found a user using perl udpl.pl some.ip 0 0 ( he was flooding ) Jan 13 16:53:14 <-- phiend has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 16:53:25 sunbx: You need QOS on the host, or just use a stiff metal rod. Jan 13 16:53:38 --> Frost^ (~Weiss@pns03-205-249.inter.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:53:48 I prefer the stiff metal rod. Jan 13 16:53:53 QOS would just limit the bw (bandwidth) not the cpu time consumed Jan 13 16:53:55 Dagmar can u please translate that ? :D ... @ least give me some doc links Jan 13 16:54:03 --> kobs_ (kobs@indecoro.us) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:54:04 sunbx: www.netfilter.org Jan 13 16:54:08 ok Jan 13 16:54:17 there are "ulimit" things in linux to slim down on that, but last I looked they don't work worth a shit Jan 13 16:54:23 sunbx: Beyond that, we're in "consultant-land" where I charge you large sums of money. Jan 13 16:54:32 freebsd has much more effective things, jails and the like Jan 13 16:54:50 If you have users you can't trust and you can't get rid of either, then they're called "customers" which means you should be hiring someon. Jan 13 16:55:00 can i limit users with qos ? i don't want to limit the whole system as httpd uses about 2 MB/s Jan 13 16:55:09 rtfm Jan 13 16:55:11 sponix: Care to explain how a chroot jail is going to do anything about network usage/ Jan 13 16:55:14 yeah ok Jan 13 16:55:15 :) Jan 13 16:55:17 or pay us to recite you the manuals Jan 13 16:55:48 I've had no problems limiting users with ulimit. Jan 13 16:55:50 Dagmar: I thought the flood was processor time, didn't see the network usage issue, was off base Jan 13 16:55:51 Can any recommend a good IDS that will be relatively easy to setup on Slack? Jan 13 16:55:54 sunbx: if u r talking for bandwidth limits go to #lartc Jan 13 16:55:55 --> rebewt_ (~rebewt@h138n3c1o1120.bredband.skanova.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:56:06 FriedBob : snort seems to be the most common one Jan 13 16:56:18 FriedBob: snort is about as much as you're going to get without leaving the realm of "Easy" and heading full speed into "Why the hell did I accept this project?" Jan 13 16:56:21 Dagmar: well, I haven't gotten to touch a *nix box for many months, might just be my memory Jan 13 16:56:36 Dagmar: Installing SELinux already put me in that realm. Jan 13 16:56:51 Dagmar: but I set process limites with ulimit stuff, and it couldn't defend from fork bombs last runs I did Jan 13 16:56:56 FriedBob: I think I remember telling you that was painful to use. ;) Jan 13 16:57:05 <-- ezrafree has quit ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") Jan 13 16:57:08 sponix: There's a ulimit for that Jan 13 16:57:29 <-- kobs has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 16:57:51 Dagmar: I know, but I recall the fork bomb was still dragging the system to a halt, or coring .. just my experience though Jan 13 16:57:51 --> triablo (1000@host-81-191-63-252.bluecom.no) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 16:58:06 FriedBob: If you want to get absolutely academic about it, Google for "network anomaly detection" Jan 13 16:58:07 Dagmar: It's cool though, got in touch with the guy who maintains the SELinux slackware packages, and he's helping me out, and I helped someone setup a repository for the base userland patches, things are actually coming a long nicely. Jan 13 16:58:20 might have just been something I setup incorrect also, I didn't research it as much as I should have, I'll give that Jan 13 16:58:30 Dagmar: I may, when I find time. Jan 13 16:58:39 sponix: Yep. That sort of thing is why I'm a big fan of the large metal pipe. Jan 13 16:58:43 WHat about lids or tripwire? Jan 13 16:58:57 Dagmar: Rubber hoses are more fun then lead pipes. Jan 13 16:59:21 FriedBob: LIDS is network-based, but not as straightforward as snort (by a small margin), and tripwire has nothing to do with networks. Jan 13 16:59:26 <-- rebewt has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 16:59:29 Tripwire also has serious diminishing returns issues. Jan 13 17:00:01 Basically, if you need tripwire, and I mean _really_ need it, it's just about time to look into hardware-level write protection, like mounting /usr from a CD or a SCSI drive that allows you a write-protect jumper. Jan 13 17:00:20 I was thinking about adding tripwire or similiar as the "final layer" to this setup, once I got everything else nailed down. Jan 13 17:00:50 FriedBob: Lead pipes have more profound proactive effects. A rubber hose doesn't look like a big deal until _after_ you've seen it used. Jan 13 17:00:56 ;) Jan 13 17:01:15 <-- fxer has quit ("Do it byte by byte") Jan 13 17:01:19 --> fxer (fxer@c-1ad1e253.017-2113-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:01:40 Dagmar: I suppose, but once you work someone over with one, you just gotta dangle it their face to get the intended behaviour modifications. Jan 13 17:01:54 Hohoho Jan 13 17:02:04 See, there's where your approach and mine differ. Jan 13 17:02:13 The lead pipe is exclusively an "exit-interview" tool. Jan 13 17:02:29 --> flouride779 (~dsl@65-102-149-233.tukw.qwest.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:02:38 If I gotta use it, the user ain't gonna be a problem anymore by virtue of they're not logging back in again Jan 13 17:02:39 <-- MAN_Hater (~Too_Rude@adsl-70-240-98-75.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has left ##slackware ("How do parent penguins bring home food to feed their babies?") Jan 13 17:02:52 --> MAN_Hater (~Too_Rude@adsl-70-240-98-75.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:03:28 Dagmar: Few well placed blows from a sledge will do that too. 2 strikes, and no ability to type... Jan 13 17:04:38 fibrecables for outdoor use.. Jan 13 17:04:47 they're hard ;D Jan 13 17:04:56 can beat a guy senseless with a piece of that Jan 13 17:05:12 <-- flouride779 has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 17:05:50 I like this one rubber flogger, personally. The rubber strands stretch as you swing, then retract at impact. Leaves soem very interesting designs on the skin, and from what I hear, it's quite painful. Jan 13 17:07:12 <-- scvoz has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 17:07:16 my friend has one of these telescopic nightsticks that the coppers use Jan 13 17:07:28 A blackjack? Those are nice. Jan 13 17:07:30 you can easly brake the bones in ones arm with one hit with that sucker Jan 13 17:07:53 IIRC, it only takes 10-15 lbs of force to break an arm. Jan 13 17:07:54 perhaps it's called that. Jan 13 17:07:58 yeah Jan 13 17:08:13 Nunchucks (sp?) can easily deliver 30. Jan 13 17:08:45 http://www.smartstep.se/shopimages/100569/f.gif Jan 13 17:08:50 one of those Jan 13 17:09:05 fun to play with sometimes.. Jan 13 17:09:15 --> havran (~havran@158.195.102.161) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:12:17 telinit 0 Jan 13 17:12:21 <-- radiohead has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 17:14:08 <-- rlm has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 17:14:16 simple packet analasis chart = http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//networking-concepts-HOWTO-8.html Jan 13 17:15:01 --> sdogi (~java@84-50-22-238-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:15:43 --> rlm (~rlm@n216.isratek.edunet.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:15:48 fiber for outdoor has teflon in it Jan 13 17:15:55 (or wrapped with tef Jan 13 17:16:52 burial is tuff also Jan 13 17:17:32 Well, I now have a working 2.6.10-selinux1 kernel on my slackbox. Now to see what else I need to update. Jan 13 17:18:38 is that redhat like ? Jan 13 17:19:05 is selinux redhat based dir tree I mena ? Jan 13 17:19:11 mean Jan 13 17:19:12 <-- sponix (~sponix@242-195-31-81.ip.eu.tachyon.net) has left ##slackware Jan 13 17:19:47 qemu is using 99% of my CPU is that normal ? or it will use 99% only on the instalation of windoes? Jan 13 17:19:50 windows* Jan 13 17:21:46 MAN_Hater: It's 2.6.10 with the NSA's SELinux patch applied. Jan 13 17:21:58 kewlness Jan 13 17:22:32 wasn't 2.6.10 included in the advisory -thingie Jan 13 17:22:45 how do i set up a ipv6 ip ? do i need something from my ISP ? Jan 13 17:24:03 *shrug* Haven't been following them, so dunno. Probabably should though. Jan 13 17:24:04 sunbx: The only way to get an ipv6 IP is if your Provider supports and is issuing them. Jan 13 17:24:27 sunbx google "how to " "ipv6 Ip" Jan 13 17:26:05 --> blackhat-- (1000@217.219.181.94) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:26:49 <-- sdogi_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 17:27:06 --> nachox (~nacho@200-122-60-146.dsl.prima.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:27:37 hi MAN hater Jan 13 17:27:41 i still had no luck Jan 13 17:27:41 <-- Frost^ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 17:27:45 coming up 20 hours Jan 13 17:27:47 ananke, are you around? Jan 13 17:29:54 guess not Jan 13 17:30:40 well, im having some weird networking problems and im thinking it may be a broken cable but i want to be sure before changing it Jan 13 17:31:16 --> Frost^ (~Weiss@pns03-205-249.inter.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:31:44 Just change it Jan 13 17:32:00 nachox: how much work is it to change the cable? Jan 13 17:32:14 Unless it's like, a 150ft buried drop near electrified toxic waste Jan 13 17:32:14 are we talking fish it through the walls? Jan 13 17:32:21 Kyle_S, its not the price of the cable, its what i have to do to change it Jan 13 17:32:28 * Kyle_S nods Jan 13 17:32:31 OK so whats the beef? Jan 13 17:32:37 Time to get out the multimeter Jan 13 17:32:51 well, accordint go both cards i have link Jan 13 17:32:56 remote X is really slow Jan 13 17:33:10 nachox : check ifconfig. see if you get any RX or TX errors Jan 13 17:33:36 oops Jan 13 17:33:41 fuzzbawl: depends on the connection. I've usually been more or less impressed by it. And of course you can use ssh tunneling for remote X, and use ssh's compression, which does help if both host&server are fast. Jan 13 17:33:49 nachox: Are the acronyms TS68A and TS68B familiar to you? Jan 13 17:34:08 yeah, some tc errors Jan 13 17:34:12 err TX Jan 13 17:34:21 kyle_s, i've never done X over ssh. got an example? Jan 13 17:34:32 nachox : how many, and how long has the box been up? Jan 13 17:34:39 ssh -X somehost.ip.foo Jan 13 17:34:41 xterm Jan 13 17:34:50 fuzzbawl: if its setup on the server, ssh -X -c server Jan 13 17:34:51 You just have to have X11Forwarding enabled in the darmon Jan 13 17:34:53 er daemon Jan 13 17:35:02 err no not -c, -C Jan 13 17:35:19 ssh -X -C nsa.gov Jan 13 17:35:21 2 boxes, and i rebooted the box a few mins ago Jan 13 17:35:24 Enh. I turn on forwarding in the ~/.ssh_config. Much easier that way Jan 13 17:35:32 nachox : i meant how many errors Jan 13 17:35:37 7 Jan 13 17:35:41 or, -l to login Jan 13 17:35:47 they think its really funny if you do ssh -X -C root@nsa.gov Jan 13 17:35:50 they get a hoot out of it. Jan 13 17:35:57 nachox: Seriously. Who crimped the cable ends? Jan 13 17:35:59 hmm, 7 ain't bad, but still way too much for only a few mins of uptime Jan 13 17:36:00 ssh -X -l name host.ip.blahblah Jan 13 17:36:28 Dagmar, the cable worked for 3 years Jan 13 17:36:46 nachox: Then replace the network cards temporarily and if that doesn't work, the cable has been chewed on by rats. Jan 13 17:36:57 ...or you've added some fluorescent lights near it. Jan 13 17:37:10 i have tested different network cards in different pci ports using both boxes Jan 13 17:37:24 fuzzbawl: and of course once your sshed to the box, just type xterm :) and you then have an xterm running on YOUR box and any programs (graphical or otherwise) run on the xterm are run on their box, and encrypted and shoved over the pipe to yours. Its fun. Jan 13 17:37:33 nachox: If you don't connect the _right pairs_ to the _right pins_ cables will work just fine, until you actually get some electrical noise in the area. Jan 13 17:38:03 Kyle_S: until the university gets very upset for running CAD software from your room :P Jan 13 17:38:03 fuzzbawl: its funny if you try and run one of the Sun opengl demos over a compressed ssh x tunnel. Jan 13 17:38:13 thr1ce: I've never had my uni complain. Jan 13 17:38:36 Kyle_S: ours will if it's very graphic-intensive stuff Jan 13 17:39:10 BBL, work time. Jan 13 17:39:11 thr1ce: even when I was exporting netscape over the X tunnel so I could access one of those fancy pay databases full of anthropology research. Jan 13 17:39:14 :D Jan 13 17:39:21 <-- FriedBob has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 13 17:39:28 lol Jan 13 17:39:50 the unusual thing is the dropped RX packets Jan 13 17:40:13 nachox: It's sounding more and more like electrical interference to me Jan 13 17:40:22 thr1ce: hey, they paid alot for that database, and no one ever seemed to use it. AND you coudln't access it from the dormroom connection...and those labs were just so uncomrfortable.. no pizza no coffee no blaring music... Jan 13 17:40:49 * Kyle_S kindof misses those days... ahh well I'm in the real (and unemployed) world now. Jan 13 17:40:58 everything is being dropped Jan 13 17:41:28 Kyle_S: what was your major? Jan 13 17:41:37 thr1ce: Math. CS minor. Jan 13 17:41:44 thrlce which cad software do you use for linux ? Jan 13 17:41:52 <-- liMbiz has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 13 17:42:01 MAN_Hater: well, I ssh'd I-Deas Jan 13 17:42:04 thr1ce: so obviously I spent >20 hours on anthropology and archeology courses ;) Jan 13 17:42:06 from our sun lab Jan 13 17:42:13 ok Jan 13 17:42:21 i really need a faster connection at home Jan 13 17:42:30 ideas is about $10,000 a lisence, iirc Jan 13 17:42:34 this 512k/3mb dsl sucks Jan 13 17:42:39 thanx Jan 13 17:42:39 --> tai (~tarun@CPE00122553c74f-CM001225419a92.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:42:48 aah, neat Jan 13 17:42:50 <-- XGizzmo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 17:42:54 Dagmar, plus, mii-tool outputs this: No MII transceiver present!. Jan 13 17:42:55 i'm an ME with a german language minor Jan 13 17:43:11 <-- Frost^ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 17:43:16 could somebody tell me how to print? i got a network with the printer attached to a windows computer and i wanna print from my linux laptop Jan 13 17:43:25 thr1ce: wow. My german is crap, but I liek the language...still don't think I could have gotten a minor in it. Jan 13 17:43:49 Warum mochtest du ein desutches (wie sacht man "minor" auf desutch?)? Jan 13 17:43:58 --> flouride779 (~theron@65-102-149-233.tukw.qwest.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:44:02 heh Jan 13 17:44:25 tai, that just screams for a RTFM and STFW. Some pointers: samba, cups Jan 13 17:44:44 <-- rlm has quit ("Ïîêèäàþ") Jan 13 17:44:45 "minor," glaube ich :) Jan 13 17:44:53 http://www.experts-exchange.com/Applications/CAD/Q_21231754.html Jan 13 17:45:28 habe es studiert in high school, habe eine Exam gescrieben, und viel Kredit zu bekommen Jan 13 17:45:30 thr1ce: echtlich? Jan 13 17:46:09 I took German in HS, spent 6 months there studying after HS, but since I dind't study german there, I can speak OK, but my grammar is CRAP. Jan 13 17:46:23 <-- tai has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 17:46:38 heh Jan 13 17:46:46 --> clavius (~clavius@clavius.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:46:48 my vocab isn't where i'd like it to be Jan 13 17:46:59 but, i tested out of half the credits, so figured i'd finish up Jan 13 17:47:05 it counts for all my gen ed stuff anyways Jan 13 17:47:09 heh Jan 13 17:47:19 ehh vocab is easy. You pick it up fast when you need it. Jan 13 17:47:30 thr1ce: Damn. What uni anyway? Jan 13 17:47:36 Kyle_S: Michigan Tech Jan 13 17:47:55 going for mechanical engineering Jan 13 17:48:09 --> kosmonaft (~kosmonaft@c-67-165-134-137.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:48:16 nice. Jan 13 17:48:20 isn't that in the UP? Jan 13 17:48:22 pinging the box in the other end returns host unreachable and increases the TX error count Jan 13 17:48:23 yep Jan 13 17:48:28 cold out today Jan 13 17:48:29 What's would be the command to remove a non-empty folder. Jan 13 17:48:35 *What would Jan 13 17:48:45 thr1ce: one of my friends went there for Chemistry. Jan 13 17:48:59 kosmonaft, rm -rf dir Jan 13 17:49:01 rm -rf dir Jan 13 17:49:06 he said he had a blast, but that... well you had to make your own fun. Jan 13 17:49:19 Kyle_S: heh...sometimes; it's easier with snow Jan 13 17:49:36 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:49:41 i like being able to ski for 4 months Jan 13 17:50:11 <-- flouride779 has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 17:50:39 --> mmu_man (revol@ALyon-112-1-18-46.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:51:17 eh, i've been here a year and a half now, and have managed 65 credits Jan 13 17:51:32 --> seemawn (~zomtec@p508102F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:51:45 --> ^rob^ (1000@82.79.28.160) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:52:37 <-- ^rob^ (1000@82.79.28.160) has left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.9.2 : http://kopete.kde.org") Jan 13 17:52:54 <-- _kop_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 17:53:05 thr1ce: sounds about right. Not a light schedule though ;) Did classes already start? Jan 13 17:53:08 --> _kop_ (~trillian@64-40-57-206.nocharge.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:53:22 --> feross (~feross@techdept.boca.prosolutionsinc.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:53:32 --> DieRatte (~Reilly@p54852A23.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:53:34 --> Frost^ (~Weiss@pns03-205-249.inter.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:54:01 --- LSD`_ is now known as LSD` Jan 13 17:55:11 Kyle_S: yep; this semester is a little tough Jan 13 17:55:17 --> chrismo (~chrismo@rdlax11-a206.dialup.optusnet.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:55:19 Kyle_S: something to do, I suppose Jan 13 17:55:43 heh, why? Did you decide to do 24 credits in math this semester? Jan 13 17:56:01 --> taortan (~taortan@83.145.62.70) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:56:03 Kyle_S: nah, i finished math for awhile after multi var. calc Jan 13 17:56:15 Kyle_S: just have diff eq. left, which won't be too bad Jan 13 17:56:29 Kyle_S: i've got all ME classes- mechanics of materials, vector dynamics, blah blah Jan 13 17:56:45 thr1ce: if your uni offers it, take game theory and as MANY stats courses as you have time for. The GT is fun, and stats are usefull. Jan 13 17:56:48 Differential equations is it's own _class Jan 13 17:56:50 -? Jan 13 17:56:52 I went to see my MEng Project Supervisor on tuesday, and he didn't even know I have to do phase one this semester! Jan 13 17:57:03 <-- clavius has quit ("client exploded") Jan 13 17:57:29 no, i'm taking lin alg and diff eq. together, a 4 credit class(es) Jan 13 17:57:42 or, will take Jan 13 17:57:50 thr1ce: that sounds painfull. Jan 13 17:58:01 Geez. I got screwed at my college. We had Calculus and Analytic Geometry all in one go... and it was pretty much the entire range of calculus Jan 13 17:58:09 5 hour brutality Jan 13 17:58:18 <-- seemawn has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 17:58:20 i only have 2 lecture courses this semester Jan 13 17:58:37 Circuits Engineering, and Power Electronics Jan 13 17:58:41 i'm done with calc, fortunately Jan 13 17:58:49 <-- magikman has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 17:58:55 --> GuBA (~obiwan@208.29.128.59) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 17:59:05 I hate calc so much I probably would have failed if I hadn't demonstrated a complete grasp of geometry the whole way through Jan 13 17:59:20 Too much playin' with Spirograph as a toddler Jan 13 17:59:22 <-- GuBA (~obiwan@208.29.128.59) has left ##slackware ("http://galeria.gsol.ws") Jan 13 18:00:22 hehe Jan 13 18:01:53 Why are there 5 vi processes saying 0:00 /usr/bin/vi /var/spool/cron/crontab.15546 all crontabs? Jan 13 18:02:18 <-- fuzzbawl has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 18:02:21 b/c vi's taking up like 30% of my cpu Jan 13 18:02:27 Gartt: Kill 'em Jan 13 18:02:38 kill all vi ! Jan 13 18:02:38 k Jan 13 18:02:40 Something's gone wrong unless you're currently editing your crontab Jan 13 18:02:43 killall* Jan 13 18:03:00 hmm Jan 13 18:03:29 Then I'll give those dirty vi crontabs a learnin' Jan 13 18:03:54 <-- Frost^ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 18:04:12 --> Lurkan (~Lurkan@201.135.159.181) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:05:17 <-- nachox has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 18:05:42 --> Zalamander (~zal@zalamander.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:05:49 any one good with patches ? Jan 13 18:05:50 Oh god I can hardly believe they keep coming out with updates to Gopher Jan 13 18:05:59 oneforall how good? Jan 13 18:06:08 I can sew like a fiend Jan 13 18:06:12 lxdvdrip.c.gz I tried patch -p0 < lxdvdrip.c.gz Jan 13 18:06:36 oneforall: You didn't happen to, you know, read the man page for patch or actually look at the patch file, did you? Jan 13 18:06:37 --> Frost^ (~Weiss@pns03-205-249.inter.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:07:01 yes I did Jan 13 18:07:15 oneforall I assume you have to gunzip that patch file first Jan 13 18:07:16 ...because judging from the filename there's a real good possibility that it's not a patch file. Jan 13 18:07:38 if it is a patch file Jan 13 18:07:39 n ope doesn't work Jan 13 18:07:45 it looks like a C source file Jan 13 18:07:49 (from the name) Jan 13 18:07:50 ...and you might have noticed the suspicious lack of gzip support in patch. Jan 13 18:07:53 a gzipped one Jan 13 18:08:01 ....because they don't mention anything about it in the man page. Jan 13 18:08:47 well the 2 ar .gz and patches Jan 13 18:08:47 oneforall are you sure that isn't an *already patched version* of some C file that is in your source tree? Jan 13 18:08:54 --> beltorak (~kvirc@ip68-230-199-179.rd.hr.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:08:59 <-- vurte has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 18:09:24 either way, it would need to be gunzipped first Jan 13 18:09:27 hey all; anyone have a linksys wireless g card? Jan 13 18:09:41 yes its smaller and if you look inside it is a few of the lines Jan 13 18:09:54 --> seemawn (~zomtec@p508102F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:10:05 oneforall does it have a lot of ++s and --s at the beginning of file lines? Jan 13 18:10:20 yes Jan 13 18:10:21 --> Tw33Ty (~Tw33Ty___@81.10.60.26) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:10:29 it is a patch Jan 13 18:10:36 <-- seemawn has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 18:11:07 --> seemawn (~zomtec@p508102F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:11:08 hm, well it might be a patch file then. You'd need to gunzip it though. And run your patch command from the directory where the file to be patched resides (make sure it's a different filename than the gunzipped patch, or it will be overwritten) Jan 13 18:11:10 vamps-patch-streamid-2 this is the other one vamps.c.gz Jan 13 18:11:13 <-- Frost^ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 18:12:32 ...and don't forget to send an email to the guy who made the patches telling him to learn how to make patches like sane people. Jan 13 18:13:10 --> Frost^ (~Weiss@pns03-205-249.inter.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:13:38 --> alisson__ (~alisson@200.153.160.86) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:14:11 --> LSD`_ (~ianweb@dsl-202-173-165-134.wa.westnet.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:14:38 hello all......i am needing some help in how to limit a bandwidth in a client...somewhere to read something about? Jan 13 18:16:04 Oh limiting the bandwidth of a client? Jan 13 18:16:21 I'm sure there's plenty of people in here willing to charge you reasonable rates for that consultancy. Jan 13 18:16:38 Otherwise: http://www.netfilter.org/ Jan 13 18:16:44 <-- Packeteer has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 18:16:52 Dagmar, ok, thanks anyway Jan 13 18:17:16 how can I tell which slackware version 8.0 verses 8.1 ? Jan 13 18:17:27 alisson__ bandwidth limiting can be done a number of ways, using tools in the iproute2 package. Check out the Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic Control HOWTO for instructions (not for the faint of heart) Jan 13 18:17:29 any hints ? Jan 13 18:17:35 MAN_Hater: cat /etc/slackware_version && echo "I need to upgrade damnit" Jan 13 18:17:48 lol Jan 13 18:17:48 thanx dagmar Jan 13 18:18:04 Seriously... if you're using 8.anything, it's very much time to upgrade Jan 13 18:18:48 Zalamander, ok...very thanks Jan 13 18:19:30 alisson__ no problem. By the way, the iproute2 package may be in the extra/ directory of your slackware CD or FTP, depending on which version of slackware you're using. Jan 13 18:19:37 * MAN_Hater likes 8.0 on my old kde version machine ( Jan 13 18:20:10 alisson__: look into iptables Jan 13 18:20:13 <-- thr1ce has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 13 18:20:33 Zalamander, now I can resolve it......i know where find now, very thanks Jan 13 18:21:30 --> XandriX (~slack@dsl-136-171.aei.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:21:51 to anyone who uses real vnc or any vnc program is it tcp or udp or both Jan 13 18:21:56 <-- Frost^ has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 18:22:07 XandriX: tcp Jan 13 18:22:23 thx flock Jan 13 18:22:24 port 5900 by default. Jan 13 18:22:28 yup Jan 13 18:22:30 thx Jan 13 18:22:32 <-- triablo has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 13 18:22:46 --> candy_cane (~lgpcf@200.255.50.131) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:23:02 <-- epic has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 18:23:06 o and why is it ##slackware Jan 13 18:23:28 freenode channel policy Jan 13 18:23:50 for more information, log on to www dot freenode dot com Jan 13 18:24:13 a ok Jan 13 18:24:58 --> Frost^ (~Weiss@pns03-205-249.inter.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:25:06 does anyone here use wireless on a linux system? Jan 13 18:25:16 <-- skubee has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 18:25:21 OMG no that would be suicidal Jan 13 18:25:34 The moment you do that, orbital lasers shoot down from the sky and fry you where you stand. Jan 13 18:25:39 hahahaha Jan 13 18:25:51 yeah well, i like to live on the edge Jan 13 18:25:54 is that so ? Jan 13 18:26:00 im goona shut down my card Jan 13 18:26:04 right now Jan 13 18:26:05 --> thr1ce (1000@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:26:05 dagmar ..only because they can read your thoughts Jan 13 18:26:06 I'm guessing you have been recently "blessed" with an Atheros chipset or Broadcom chipset card? Jan 13 18:26:07 lol Jan 13 18:26:10 * StevenR powers on his orbital laser control system (wired of course) Jan 13 18:26:17 ok...i'm trying to set up iptables for the first time, and am getting alot of errors Jan 13 18:26:21 can anyone help? Jan 13 18:26:25 Da5iD Daedric DagaZ Dagmar Davetha|400mhz Jan 13 18:26:26 Sure. Jan 13 18:26:26 DagaZ Dagmar Jan 13 18:26:34 Dagmar, actually i got broadcom Jan 13 18:26:36 good question; i think its brodcom Jan 13 18:26:49 shit StevenR you need a hell of a lot of wireing for an orbital laser Jan 13 18:26:51 * MAN_Hater thinks stevenr is a member of SRLabs Jan 13 18:26:54 smps: how did you set it up? Jan 13 18:26:57 --> phrag (~phrag@phra.gs) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:27:02 <-- LSD` has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 13 18:27:10 XandriX: i know, that was the most expensive part Jan 13 18:27:12 im talking about nic , not wlan Jan 13 18:27:17 --- LSD`_ is now known as LSD` Jan 13 18:27:17 beltorak: If it's broadcom, you need to get some pain pills and search for something called "ndiswrapper" or maybe "ndiswanwrapper" I believe Jan 13 18:27:18 wlan is intel .......... Jan 13 18:27:23 http://www.pastebin.com/228444 Jan 13 18:27:24 I'm not sure the kernel mods i downloaded are correct :/ Jan 13 18:27:42 --- nixor gives voice to phrag Jan 13 18:27:48 ok; i wrote the file, renamed it to /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall, changed ownership to root, and chmod +x'ed it Jan 13 18:27:54 <-- ryen has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 18:27:58 thr1ce: What is this crazy script you're using/ Jan 13 18:28:08 * MAN_Hater noticed when I said SRL that LSD appeared Jan 13 18:28:09 thr1ce: do you have iptables installed? Jan 13 18:28:21 isn't default in 2.4.x kernel? Jan 13 18:28:27 NOpe. Jan 13 18:28:32 ... Jan 13 18:28:32 --> skubee (1000@c-24-21-137-201.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:28:33 lol Jan 13 18:28:33 It's definitely not installed now Jan 13 18:28:42 --> button (~daemon@ns.sevsky.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:29:08 "/sbin/iptables: No such file or directory" showing up several hundred times is kind of a dead giveaway Jan 13 18:29:13 Dagmar: ndiswrapper -- ok; are the instructions for it fairly complete? Jan 13 18:29:14 lol Jan 13 18:29:27 i need a lil help with shorewall Jan 13 18:29:27 beltorak: Have you ever used a wireless card in Linux before? Jan 13 18:29:41 nope Jan 13 18:29:47 well, that's what I didn't get- i could've sworn it was installed by default, and i thought my script was bad or something to not have it be able to locate it Jan 13 18:29:47 I mean to say, they're about as well-documented as anything usually is. Jan 13 18:30:02 lol -- ok; guess I'll hafta find out.... Jan 13 18:30:10 it says Failed to start firewall : but its not saying why Jan 13 18:30:12 thr1ce: ls /var/log/packages|grep iptable Jan 13 18:30:29 ...or ls /var/log/packages/iptables* Jan 13 18:30:34 bblater... Jan 13 18:30:53 iptables-1.2.11-i486-1 Jan 13 18:30:53 Dagmar: yes, but I like grep :) Jan 13 18:30:57 heh Jan 13 18:31:07 thr1ce: so do you have /sbin/iptables ? Jan 13 18:31:13 How about `grep sbin/iptables /var/log/packages/*` Jan 13 18:31:24 <-- identd has quit (" ") Jan 13 18:31:24 I dislike spurious use of pipes Jan 13 18:31:28 <-- beltorak has quit ("Using KVIrc 3.0.1 'System Virtue'") Jan 13 18:31:35 anyone here use shorewall Jan 13 18:31:38 * MAN_Hater boo hooze cuz mine is old Jan 13 18:31:48 it's in /usr/sbin/iptables Jan 13 18:31:51 thr1ce: it's /usr/sbin/iptables Jan 13 18:31:55 SNAP! Jan 13 18:31:57 i need a lil help with shorewall Jan 13 18:32:08 so, do I change that in my script? Jan 13 18:32:16 XandriX: we heard you the first time Jan 13 18:32:18 thr1ce: You want it to work, right? Jan 13 18:32:26 sty StevenR Jan 13 18:32:33 well help me when you can Jan 13 18:32:37 *sry Jan 13 18:32:40 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to phrag Jan 13 18:32:41 OMG wait Jan 13 18:32:43 --- phrag removes ban on GOD!*@* Jan 13 18:32:43 --- phrag removes ban on chinese-eyes!*@* Jan 13 18:32:54 Is that script being invoked through PHP? Jan 13 18:33:13 * MAN_Hater thinx some would prefer God not be in here Jan 13 18:33:19 iptables: No chain/target/match by that name Jan 13 18:33:21 .,..or is that just some weirdness with pastebin on line 001 Jan 13 18:33:27 aha Jan 13 18:33:34 --- phrag removes ban on *!*@lsanca1-ar60-4-7-206-214.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net Jan 13 18:33:34 --- phrag removes ban on *!*@wintermute.cs.vu.nl Jan 13 18:33:34 --- phrag removes ban on *!*@*gnaa* Jan 13 18:33:34 --- phrag removes ban on *!*gnaa*@* Jan 13 18:33:36 --- phrag removes ban on Tar_Baby!*@* Jan 13 18:33:36 --- phrag removes ban on yes_rules!*@* Jan 13 18:33:36 --- phrag removes ban on elp_rules!*@* Jan 13 18:33:38 so thats the problem with my shorewall config Jan 13 18:33:39 --- phrag removes channel operator status from phrag Jan 13 18:33:44 Dagmar: that's usually pastebin wierdness Jan 13 18:34:00 --- MAN_Hater is now known as Tar_Baby Jan 13 18:34:11 it's been too long Jan 13 18:34:14 I'm seeing this failed module loads, and they don't look good. Jan 13 18:34:18 thank you phraf Jan 13 18:34:29 -f +g Jan 13 18:34:38 "error: permission denied on key 'net.ipv4.tcp_syncookies' " also very bad Jan 13 18:34:42 but how do i fix it i have no idea Jan 13 18:34:43 Tar_Baby: why were you +q ? Jan 13 18:35:03 --> solsTiCe (~solsTiCe@d213-103-32-157.cust.tele2.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:35:06 Kind of leads me to believe that possibly this script isn't being run as root Jan 13 18:35:16 Tar_Baby: i have not spoken to lilo yet, as to why each was put in place, but it was a mess without refference to whom masks were, nor the reason for the action Jan 13 18:35:25 ask sandman1 - I think someone complained - cuz they associated this nick with some book (silly people Jan 13 18:35:32 Tar_Baby: if lilo does not want you back, you won't be Jan 13 18:35:47 well that is an easy fix Jan 13 18:35:48 --> jmedina (~jmedina@63.70.73.227) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:35:49 Political correctness run amok Jan 13 18:35:49 Tar_Baby: also, you were evading... which i would normally perm ban for Jan 13 18:35:55 --- Tar_Baby is now known as Man_Hater Jan 13 18:36:06 my shorewall wotn start and says iptables: No chain/target/match by that name Jan 13 18:36:12 *wont Jan 13 18:36:16 evading ? what are you talking about ? Jan 13 18:36:25 XandriX: Have you tried asking on the shorewall mailing list? Jan 13 18:36:39 thers a mailing lsit ??? Jan 13 18:36:42 *list Jan 13 18:36:48 Look on the website Jan 13 18:36:53 i dunno i just preferd asking soemone who new Jan 13 18:37:17 http://www.pastebin.com/228448 Jan 13 18:37:20 does that look better? Jan 13 18:37:22 --> nullvalue (~echelon@ool-43576ba8.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:37:24 phrag is there a list of these terms you use so I can understand them (evading "and circomventing and such ? Jan 13 18:37:33 Man_Hater: you just changed your mask to match a ban i removed while waiting for lilo to return and confirm the reason for such.... asking for it Jan 13 18:37:48 Man_Hater: it is common sense Jan 13 18:37:52 hi... i have setup a network between two pc's... now how do i enable internet connection sharing? :S Jan 13 18:37:55 thrice: Now you just need to go down through the script and edit the parts you are very obviously supposed to edit. Jan 13 18:38:05 oh ok so i should ask if I can use it before changing back to my old nick ? - ok I know now Jan 13 18:38:09 i've been reading the docs on iptables.org and found nothing that helped Jan 13 18:38:18 nullvalue: using slackware? use an iptables gateway and firewall. netfilter.org Jan 13 18:38:18 "/path/to/script/script_name" for instance, is kind of suggestive of something you're expected to edit. Jan 13 18:38:32 um Jan 13 18:38:34 why not ask lilo before you unbann (speaking of common sense Jan 13 18:38:37 netfilter.org = iptables.org Jan 13 18:38:42 how do i get a list of irc ops Jan 13 18:38:43 p.s thanx for the insult Jan 13 18:38:52 Man_Hater: FWIW, anyone who finds "tar baby" offensive, has been smoking too much crystal meth Jan 13 18:38:54 Dagmar: I used a generator to make this script Jan 13 18:39:05 thr1ce: hah. Whose generator? Jan 13 18:39:21 http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/gen/ Jan 13 18:39:30 Dude, do you have QT installed? Jan 13 18:39:37 nullvalue: well you can also check the slackware init scripts for ip forwarding and nat and suchlike. in /etc/rc.d Jan 13 18:39:45 me...? Jan 13 18:39:48 Yes, you Jan 13 18:39:52 Man_Hater: go against the ops/staff/regulars and start upsetting them, by evading bans, provoking a response, etc, and it is blatently obvious what will happen... if you do not understand this, then i would suggest the calibre of your intellect is not sufficient for this channel Jan 13 18:39:55 of course I have qt installed Jan 13 18:39:55 Man_Hater: understand ? Jan 13 18:40:03 ok can anyone send me to a url that explains what one should not do in irc or slackware irc channel that explains these "circumventions and these other rules that I seem to be unaware of Jan 13 18:40:07 thr1ce: Then screw that site and go here -> http://www.fwbuilder.org/ Jan 13 18:40:10 --> AcidChild (~ash@dsl-80-41-87-209.access.uk.tiscali.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:40:27 Their tool is a little cracked out, but it's at least capable of generating something that will work, which is more than I can say for that website. Jan 13 18:40:31 aaaaaaaaaaaaa fwbuilder Jan 13 18:40:35 crap crap crap Jan 13 18:40:56 If you can find the 1.x version on someone's archive (it uses GTK+) It's probably less confusing Jan 13 18:40:57 phrag if that comment is meant to generate a response from me then yes the answer is "yes I understand Jan 13 18:41:02 --> sami_ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:41:03 can people see me? Jan 13 18:41:06 ah better :) Jan 13 18:41:15 this ## stuff confuzzles me :) Jan 13 18:41:29 Dagmar: i thought that site worked well- i had a few people in here recommend it to me Jan 13 18:41:34 Man_Hater: so what else are you having trouble understanding ? Jan 13 18:41:41 * StevenR blinds AcidChild with an overhead projector Jan 13 18:41:49 ah Jan 13 18:41:52 my eyes Jan 13 18:42:13 any shorewall suer here ????? Jan 13 18:42:25 *shorewall suer Jan 13 18:42:28 if so msg me Jan 13 18:42:35 Dagmar: so, my firewall isn't running right now, or did the script load anyways? Jan 13 18:42:51 * StevenR used kmyfirewall and modified the script afterwards so It was better Jan 13 18:43:14 phrag in all seriousness I never try to break rules - so i am serious when I ask - where do I read about evading a bann (you see whn I come in here as another name it is only to see what I did to get banned (I had no idea that is "evading" when one comes in says nothing other than ask an OP to pm then ask what happend and how long ? Jan 13 18:43:16 thr1ce: /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall status ? Jan 13 18:43:38 Man_Hater: and did you pm an op ? Jan 13 18:43:46 shti kmyfirewall looks nice Jan 13 18:44:00 Man_Hater: or just think because you got away with it for awhile, it was ok ? Jan 13 18:44:14 what are you talking about Jan 13 18:44:22 ... Jan 13 18:44:29 but i still need a shorewall user to help me lol Jan 13 18:44:32 XandriX: it look nice, but it's not fantastic. And you need to munge the script into an rc.firewall afterwards Jan 13 18:44:53 eeee ok Jan 13 18:45:06 whats that program in KDE to monitor battery life? Jan 13 18:45:10 trying to find it.. Jan 13 18:45:19 its cuz im use to shorewall Jan 13 18:45:27 if I remeber correctly - i came in here as tar_baby - someone said - thats a racist nick and - bong it was banned - last time I was banned was by sandman1 and I set up a conference with coldbyte - as nediator and sanndy and I worked it out - so to what are you NOW referign to ? Jan 13 18:45:33 and well now on my latest slack installation it wont start ..... Jan 13 18:45:37 baaaaaaaahwahhh Jan 13 18:45:58 wow Man_Hater Jan 13 18:46:02 some one pissed u off. Jan 13 18:46:09 Man_Hater: fine, seeing as you are still having trouble grasping the situation, you are banned until lilo removes Jan 13 18:46:11 Yow! Jan 13 18:46:13 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@adsl-70-240-98-75.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net Jan 13 18:46:14 <-- nixor has kicked Man_Hater from ##slackware (banned: Man_Hater - banned until lilo removes) Jan 13 18:47:00 a smart person would not have invoked that re-ban Jan 13 18:47:00 * Kyle_S shrugs Jan 13 18:47:09 <-- sami has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 13 18:47:12 trye phrag Jan 13 18:47:20 hows it going Kyle_S Jan 13 18:47:23 I wonder why he was so big on getting himself banned again? I mean that was prettymuch asking for it. Jan 13 18:47:34 who knows... Jan 13 18:47:36 phrag: not to bad. Teaching myself the basics of sql database creation. Jan 13 18:47:42 btw, he is a she, apparently Jan 13 18:47:49 ah. Jan 13 18:47:53 still thick. Jan 13 18:47:54 * Kyle_S has querried and filled databases for ages, but never made them before. Jan 13 18:47:58 oh, i have never looked at mysql Jan 13 18:48:11 phrag: I thought MAN there was referring to manpages, but OK. Jan 13 18:48:14 um StevenR so you use rc.firewall Jan 13 18:48:17 i got to much used to the shorewall scripting Jan 13 18:48:22 *so mush Jan 13 18:48:25 *much Jan 13 18:48:33 eek :) Jan 13 18:48:36 any good? Jan 13 18:48:39 phrag: Ehh well I still think postresql is a far superior database, but mysql is quicker to build/easier to manage so I'm practicing with that. Jan 13 18:48:44 ??? Jan 13 18:48:46 shorewall Jan 13 18:48:47 Man_Hater: do you literally hate all males? or is that nickname just by lack of options? Jan 13 18:48:49 ya? Jan 13 18:48:51 yeah its good Jan 13 18:48:56 but Jan 13 18:49:02 Kyle_S: and a more widely used Jan 13 18:49:06 i saw it on a version of konppix.. never looked at it tho. Jan 13 18:49:07 well its a bit complicated you get used to it thow Jan 13 18:49:13 * Kyle_S pokes meowwuff in the side Jan 13 18:49:15 ah. Jan 13 18:49:18 dude he/she/it is already gone. Jan 13 18:49:24 haha Jan 13 18:49:30 but personaly less then rc.firewall Jan 13 18:49:37 but htats my opinion Jan 13 18:49:37 :)) Jan 13 18:49:42 hah Jan 13 18:49:44 it's probably a dude Jan 13 18:49:50 who thinks they'll get more help Jan 13 18:49:54 if they're a chick with a dick Jan 13 18:49:58 haha Jan 13 18:49:59 phrag: more widely used for webapps (because of its speed), but postgresql is more widely used when stability/referential integrity/rollbacks are needed. Jan 13 18:50:01 eeeeeeek Jan 13 18:50:04 shemale eeeeeeek Jan 13 18:50:07 hehe Jan 13 18:50:09 Kyle_S: ah, i see Jan 13 18:50:10 eew Jan 13 18:50:14 * AcidChild shivers Jan 13 18:50:19 * XandriX barfs Jan 13 18:50:27 * XandriX and shivers Jan 13 18:50:27 can you search for specific lines in vi? Jan 13 18:50:38 ya. Jan 13 18:50:39 aaaa i use jed Jan 13 18:50:39 * Kyle_S looks for rapid aging pills to pass out to some of the regulars... Jan 13 18:50:39 thr1ce: course.... / Jan 13 18:50:42 s/aging/maturing Jan 13 18:50:43 --- solsTiCe is now known as solsTiCe_ Jan 13 18:50:58 Kyle_S mysql has both referential integrity and rollbacks, in 4.1 Jan 13 18:51:01 shemales were gross about 4 years ago when they first came to the surface from the deep burrowings undergrown, but now it's just a fact of life.. we're more accepting people in a way.. you know to accept that freaks as normal members of society.. Jan 13 18:51:09 Kyle_S: =P Jan 13 18:51:13 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to phrag Jan 13 18:51:15 --- phrag sets mode +q ##slackware meowwuff!*@* Jan 13 18:51:16 --- phrag removes channel operator status from phrag Jan 13 18:51:22 man. Jan 13 18:51:24 aakk Jan 13 18:51:32 point taken meowwuff Jan 13 18:51:34 "man shemale" Jan 13 18:51:40 eh Jan 13 18:51:42 Zalamander: how well does it impliment them? Jan 13 18:51:47 No manual entry for shemale Jan 13 18:51:53 AcidChild: please stop Jan 13 18:51:54 Kyle_S I don't know, I don't develop MySQL Jan 13 18:51:57 AcidChild, meowwuff has a point Jan 13 18:51:57 Zalamander: and how big of a speed hit does it take :) Jan 13 18:51:59 kk :) Jan 13 18:52:04 XandriX: i know :) Jan 13 18:52:05 ahh ok. Do you use any particular dbs for devel? Jan 13 18:52:10 In ancient greece homosexuality was normal. Jan 13 18:52:11 i am only messing Jan 13 18:52:17 wtf Jan 13 18:52:20 so it should be :) Jan 13 18:52:24 Kyle_S I use MySQL and Postgres both for my apps. Jan 13 18:52:24 \o/ Jan 13 18:52:25 this is ##slackware Jan 13 18:52:31 <-- meowwuff (~mreith@69.90.194.233) has left ##slackware Jan 13 18:52:38 --> meowdog (~mreith@69.90.194.233) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:52:42 much better Jan 13 18:52:47 is there anything i should configure before i '/etc/rc.d/rc.ip_forward start' Jan 13 18:53:01 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@69.90.194.233 Jan 13 18:53:01 <-- nixor has kicked meowdog from ##slackware (banned: meow - ban evasion) Jan 13 18:53:05 meowdog: you're gonna be banned now Jan 13 18:53:08 smokey time Jan 13 18:53:09 nevermind Jan 13 18:53:14 what else should i do to share my connection? Jan 13 18:53:31 :-) Jan 13 18:53:34 Kyle_S My experience is that MySQL is still faster, while Postgres allows me cleaner, simpler SQL. Postgres still has some features that MySQL won't have until 5.0: like Views for example Jan 13 18:53:46 Zalamander: I'm writing this stuff in mysql, but it will have to work with postgres. Not a big deal, I'm using all the very very standard sql calls I used to use for stuff that had to work on both informix and db2. Jan 13 18:54:02 no views in mysql? Jan 13 18:54:03 argh. Jan 13 18:54:25 --> SlackUX (~SuseUX@cpc1-mapp3-6-1-cust78.nott.cable.ntl.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:54:30 hello! Jan 13 18:54:34 --- solsTiCe_ is now known as solsTiCe Jan 13 18:54:37 <-- Polleke has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 18:54:38 mind you I've never had to create my own databases before, so I'm not sure if that stuff will transfer cleanly ;) Jan 13 18:54:50 nullvalue: you can do all the simple connection sharing and stuff using iptables to control netfilter. You dont need anything else really. You just setup the internet connected pc as the gateway and have other computers use it. Jan 13 18:54:57 ugh...iptables are too difficult for me Jan 13 18:55:11 blah Jan 13 18:55:17 * StevenR is slowly learning how iptables works Jan 13 18:55:24 Kyle_S the hardest columns to translate are datetime/timestamp. Jan 13 18:55:27 thr1ce, use shorewall Jan 13 18:55:39 does it have a front end? Jan 13 18:55:41 anyone know where to put the compmgr for it to load on startup? Jan 13 18:55:51 shorewall Jan 13 18:55:54 ya Jan 13 18:55:55 StevenR, i dunno where to start :/ Jan 13 18:55:59 well u can use webmin Jan 13 18:56:02 ooo Jan 13 18:56:05 ya i rember. Jan 13 18:56:07 cool. Jan 13 18:56:08 <-- ximpul has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 18:56:24 --> nachox (~nacho@200-122-57-164.dsl.prima.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 18:56:32 nullvalue: start by reading the iptables manpages and the howtos on your system, in /usr/doc/LinuxHOWTOS or something. Jan 13 18:56:35 Zalamander: if you use the native now calls when populating the database (and don't have to move data from one db to the other) it shouldn't be an issue though, corret? Jan 13 18:56:39 XandriX: do u know the module for the kernel for power managment? Jan 13 18:56:40 s/corret/correct. Jan 13 18:56:43 nullvalue: google is your friend. Jan 13 18:56:56 http://www.pastebin.com/228454 Jan 13 18:57:01 that is where i'm at right now Jan 13 18:57:02 i don't think it is :| Jan 13 18:57:07 APM thats it Jan 13 18:57:07 acpi Jan 13 18:57:11 i'm not a very good googler :) Jan 13 18:57:15 deoends wich one u use Jan 13 18:57:23 oh =/ Jan 13 18:57:25 thr1ce: paste the rc.firewall tooo :) Jan 13 18:57:25 nullvalue: learn to be a good googler Jan 13 18:57:31 how can I do that? Jan 13 18:57:36 XandriX: eermm what one u think is a good idea. Jan 13 18:57:38 pastebin.com Jan 13 18:57:47 thr1ce: cat rc.firewall and put it in the pastebin Jan 13 18:57:50 leme check wich one i use Jan 13 18:57:55 kk :)) Jan 13 18:58:07 on a nForce 3 mobo is that matters Jan 13 18:58:14 aah...i was trying copy/paste from vi Jan 13 18:58:16 oooo Jan 13 18:58:19 i have nforce2 Jan 13 18:58:27 64bit CPU XD Jan 13 18:58:29 * StevenR has nforce2 too Jan 13 18:58:31 \o/ Jan 13 18:58:33 Kyle_S yes, that sounds about right. It's the column definitions that are "interesting" to translate, not the data. For example, Postgres's "timestamp without timezone" column type is probably closest to MySQL's datetime column, while MySQL's timestamp column is an abberation with no equivalent. In general, I find it easier to go from Postrgres -> MySQL than the other way around. Jan 13 18:58:37 in a laptop thats very nice :) Jan 13 18:58:42 XandriX: do you use nvidia binary mobo drivers? Jan 13 18:58:44 gimme a sec Jan 13 18:58:46 yeah Jan 13 18:58:51 the ones nv gave me Jan 13 18:58:55 nvsound Jan 13 18:58:56 nvnet Jan 13 18:59:03 cool.... Jan 13 18:59:11 Zalamander: in that case I'm going to be in for a treat ;) Jan 13 18:59:12 XandriX: yuck...use the ones in the kernel :) Jan 13 18:59:18 its a Realteck NIC on this laptop. Jan 13 18:59:21 um AcidChild i use acpi Jan 13 18:59:24 ah Jan 13 18:59:31 how do i go about installing that then? Jan 13 18:59:38 or loading it in Jan 13 18:59:39 --> fubar (~mike@secure.deadbolt.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:00:07 StevenR, if u se the soudn drivers that are pure shit that come with 2.6.7 it works half the tiem and in the 2.6.7 kernel does nto have the correc nor does 2.4.26 for the network Jan 13 19:00:11 i have a problem with my X Windows startx fails and tells me it can't write to /tmp Jan 13 19:00:33 --> GuBA (~oficina@208.29.128.59) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:00:42 chmod /tmp then :) Jan 13 19:00:56 <-- GuBA (~oficina@208.29.128.59) has left ##slackware ("http://galeria.gsol.ws") Jan 13 19:00:57 <-- lab_rat (~Lab_Rat@205-178-43-169.s423.tnt1.sfrn.ca.dialup.rcn.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 13 19:01:06 AcidChild, i use acpi Jan 13 19:01:17 AcidChild: chmod 000 /tmp? Jan 13 19:01:25 XandriX: forcedeth is the net driver, alsa uses snd-intel8x0.....works perfectly here :) very pleased with it. nvidia ones caused depmod problems and breakages Jan 13 19:01:40 nto on my pc lol Jan 13 19:01:44 aas i will always say Jan 13 19:01:50 well, as always, YMMV Jan 13 19:01:59 XandriX: do i have to patch the kernel? Jan 13 19:02:06 for acpi to work? Jan 13 19:02:06 it depends on the pc and how you config your kernel and system etc Jan 13 19:02:09 no Jan 13 19:02:12 it's too big to fit in a terminal when I cat it Jan 13 19:02:16 ah. Jan 13 19:02:26 StevenR: snd-intel8x0 can't do all the things the current nvidia driver can, hardware mixing being the biggie but I've learned to live without that Jan 13 19:02:51 LSD`: well i spend my time in kde, so arts does all i want so far Jan 13 19:03:01 :)) Jan 13 19:03:25 * StevenR goes for fooooood Jan 13 19:04:38 Zalamander: I take it you've designed databases right? Jan 13 19:05:04 <-- thr1ce has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 13 19:05:04 --> blaylock (~sfv100@24-49-51-43.chvlva.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:05:24 <-- Tw33Ty has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 19:05:37 are there any video editors that can edit wmv, divx etc ? Jan 13 19:05:59 three_11: anyone that uses mplayer to read in the video would be able to. Jan 13 19:06:07 as mplayer can play and convert from those formats. Jan 13 19:06:08 Kyle_S yep, all too much Jan 13 19:06:12 three_11: for linux? Not that I know of, Linux sucks more than usual in this area Jan 13 19:06:14 <-- AcidChild has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 19:06:15 three_11, mplayer, transcode, Kino ........ Jan 13 19:06:32 Zalamander: mind if I ask you some (dumb?) questions? Jan 13 19:06:47 --> AcidChild (~ash@dsl-80-41-87-209.access.uk.tiscali.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:06:48 omg Jan 13 19:06:49 Kyle_S not at all ("there are no dumb questions, only dumb people :-) Jan 13 19:06:55 battery just died =/ Jan 13 19:06:58 Heh Jan 13 19:07:08 AcidChild: that's what mains power is for :P Jan 13 19:07:09 thats why i need APM Jan 13 19:07:21 :P LSD` Jan 13 19:07:28 LSD`, crap Jan 13 19:07:39 well i know mplayer can encode /decode Jan 13 19:07:53 brb startx ... Jan 13 19:07:54 smps, whats transcode, Kino Jan 13 19:07:55 <-- AcidChild has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 19:08:16 smps, google for it .. something similar to mplayer -............ Jan 13 19:08:19 transcode basically does what it's name suggests: it transcodes files from one format to another Jan 13 19:08:21 Zalamander: Cool. So if you had a bunch of tables(education edudetails experience experiencedetails yadda yadda) and you wanted to make another table that had n instances of those per entry... how would you do it? Jan 13 19:08:43 Kyle_S brb phone call Jan 13 19:08:50 Cool. Jan 13 19:08:54 --> AcidChild (~ash@dsl-80-41-87-209.access.uk.tiscali.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:08:56 :)) Jan 13 19:09:12 o so not a vid editor Jan 13 19:09:14 AcidChild acidkill Jan 13 19:09:19 * nachox thinks he went to ask a real db admin ;) Jan 13 19:09:20 three_11: alot of "simple" editors use other projects for the backend. I belive some use mplayer. Jan 13 19:09:21 AcidChild, died again ? Jan 13 19:09:25 --- SlackUX is now known as SuseUX Jan 13 19:09:30 smps: naarr Jan 13 19:09:32 just started X Jan 13 19:09:36 three_11: not what I'd call a video editor Jan 13 19:09:42 three_11, look for kino Jan 13 19:09:42 :-) Jan 13 19:09:44 <-- SuseUX (~SuseUX@cpc1-mapp3-6-1-cust78.nott.cable.ntl.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 13 19:09:45 three_11: besides, if your good with mplayer/mencoder you CAN use it as a video editor.. just a command line video editor. Jan 13 19:09:48 i need APM now. Jan 13 19:09:53 * Kyle_S has actually done that. Jan 13 19:10:23 Kyle_S, lol , now im a command line junkie, but command line video editing? Jan 13 19:10:24 :P Jan 13 19:10:25 do people think its a good idea to update my kernel? Jan 13 19:10:33 i had problems last time. Jan 13 19:10:43 every thing worked but the mouse. Jan 13 19:10:46 =/ Jan 13 19:10:49 on 2.6.10 Jan 13 19:10:51 three_11, what do you want to edit ? Jan 13 19:10:53 --> thr1ce (~andrew@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:10:54 ok Jan 13 19:11:01 http://www.pastebin.com/228459 Jan 13 19:11:06 three_11: You would be surprised man :) Try using imagemagick for command line image editing sometime. You grit your teeth at first, but after a few minutes, it makes sense. Jan 13 19:11:12 smps, video from my camera Jan 13 19:11:17 http://www.pastebin.com/228454 Jan 13 19:11:25 three_11, exactly what do you want to do ? Jan 13 19:11:25 that is my rc.firewall, and the errors I get Jan 13 19:11:39 smoke__, cut out parts, add effects, music etc Jan 13 19:11:43 smps, Jan 13 19:11:43 kino looks likes it could evolve into something. Being only a 0.x release atm means it's probably a POS compared to more developed Windows packages tho (not that reaching 1.x will likely make that much of a difference) Jan 13 19:11:55 nevermind Jan 13 19:11:56 smps, than use transcode and mplayer in console Jan 13 19:11:57 thrice: The problem is that you copied and pasted without making sure your browser was set wide enough to avoid wrapping lines. Jan 13 19:11:58 they are stupid Jan 13 19:11:59 thr1ce three_11 Jan 13 19:12:01 yep Jan 13 19:12:07 XandriX: what waz it u used again sorry i forgot =/ Jan 13 19:12:15 this is the first time I have seen my rc.firewall layed out Jan 13 19:12:24 Kyle_S, hmm, while youre editing the picture you have to imagine it? ;) Jan 13 19:12:26 acpi Jan 13 19:12:32 thx :) Jan 13 19:12:35 np Jan 13 19:12:47 hey does anyoen here no howto right tcl sripts Jan 13 19:12:51 root@lappy:/home/ash# acpid Jan 13 19:12:52 acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: No such file or directory Jan 13 19:12:53 XandriX: what board do you have out of curiosity? Jan 13 19:13:00 XandriX: yes Jan 13 19:13:10 nachox: well I was on a windos box in another country and they didn't allow you to download software... so I was imagemagicking an image in my ~/public_html/ and viewing it after each edit. Jan 13 19:13:19 what does that mean ^^ ? Jan 13 19:13:21 nachox: sick, but actually it worked fine. Jan 13 19:13:23 LSD`, i use an A7N8X-E delux edition Jan 13 19:13:33 AcidChild, you no howto tcl script Jan 13 19:13:45 XandriX: Ah, the Asus boards are notorious for haviung buggy ACPI BIOSes Jan 13 19:13:46 AcidChild, if so i need to ask you a big big big favor Jan 13 19:13:47 nachox: does showjpeg still get shipped with slack? Jan 13 19:13:56 XandriX: i know a HOWTO on em Jan 13 19:13:58 LSD`, works fine for me Jan 13 19:14:00 and i know a lil bit Jan 13 19:14:03 Kyle_S, hmm ssh + xforwarding wasnt good enough? Jan 13 19:14:04 <-- smoke__ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 19:14:05 send me the link plz Jan 13 19:14:08 kk Jan 13 19:14:12 Kyle_S, dunno Jan 13 19:14:19 as i said Jan 13 19:14:21 help me with this apm thing then >_< Jan 13 19:14:23 depends on the revisions Jan 13 19:14:26 and alot of things Jan 13 19:14:28 nachox: I was on a windos box in an internet cafe. It already had putty on it, but they didn't let you download and run exes. Jan 13 19:14:31 no pc is exactly the same Jan 13 19:14:59 anywyas nice discussing this with you LSD` Jan 13 19:14:59 Kyle_S, ouch, those damn windows boxes ;) Jan 13 19:15:04 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:15:30 um AcidChild the howto on tcl plz Jan 13 19:15:31 nachox: I've heard of php image editors for doing stuff on the serverend through a webpage, but that box didn't have php. Jan 13 19:15:31 lol Jan 13 19:15:49 hey LSD` you use apm ??? Jan 13 19:15:52 Kyle_S, and a java based one? Jan 13 19:16:02 http://www.pastebin.com/228465 Jan 13 19:16:05 how's that look? Jan 13 19:16:05 --> rebewt (~rebewt@h16n3c1o1120.bredband.skanova.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:16:14 thr1ce: If you can manage to find a 1.x release of fwbuilder, it's very worth looking into Jan 13 19:16:25 Dagmar: I think that did it Jan 13 19:16:26 i hope Jan 13 19:16:27 nachox: Java is just so... slow usually. Jan 13 19:16:37 does that output look all right? Jan 13 19:16:53 Kyle_S, depends Jan 13 19:16:53 XandriX: nah, ACPI and it was working perfectly while Asus owners were complaining of lockups and other nasty things. One of many reasons why I won't buy Asus' shit where I can possibly avoid it Jan 13 19:16:55 on the system Jan 13 19:17:04 thr1ce: That version of fwbuilder behaves more or less like Checkpoint-FW1's management console, with support for more output targets Jan 13 19:17:06 Kyle_S, slower than editing the image in the cli and reloading every time? Jan 13 19:17:10 ...and much less annoying lisp code. Jan 13 19:17:10 aaaaaaaa Jan 13 19:17:12 LSD`, Jan 13 19:17:15 nachox: Hey man it was fun ;) Jan 13 19:17:19 Dagmar: did you see the last one Jan 13 19:17:23 sry but asus is like on of the best companies Jan 13 19:17:25 Dagmar: interesting; i'll look into it Jan 13 19:17:35 i never had problems and thats the oonl thing i bot all my life man Jan 13 19:17:42 nachox: not to mention imagemagick has more abilties and functions than any java image editor would hope to. Jan 13 19:17:48 LSD`: I've gone through several ASUS boards. Never had any problems like what you're describing. Jan 13 19:17:54 http://www.pastebin.com/228465 Jan 13 19:17:55 XandriX: hold on man Jan 13 19:18:03 i will be back in about 20min Jan 13 19:18:08 k Jan 13 19:18:08 i got a realy good HOWTO. Jan 13 19:18:09 someone good at iptables- is that a good output when I run /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall? Jan 13 19:18:11 Of course, generally I wait until they've gone through at least one hardware revision before I buy a particular board anyway so that could have something to do with it. Jan 13 19:18:13 XandriX: Asus are overpriced, overrated crap Jan 13 19:18:18 i just wish i could solve this fscking network problem Jan 13 19:18:29 LSD`: No, you're getting them confused with Intel now. Jan 13 19:18:29 * XandriX pities LSD` its nto overpriced man Jan 13 19:18:38 yeah exactly Jan 13 19:18:39 someone...? Jan 13 19:18:43 thx Dagmar Jan 13 19:18:54 I sure hope you're not holding up someone like pcchips, ecs, or fic as a company to buy from. Jan 13 19:18:55 <-- rebewt_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 19:18:58 Dagmar: No, no I'm not Jan 13 19:19:07 LSD`, yes you are Jan 13 19:19:18 Amptron I'd take over those three Jan 13 19:19:24 i hate my asus board, but that cuz the a7n8x wasnt out yet, so i have an a7v8x Jan 13 19:19:28 Generally I'll get ASUS or MSI if I'm feeling cheap Jan 13 19:19:47 --> AcidChil1 (~ash@dsl-80-41-26-182.access.uk.tiscali.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:20:02 wow allenmh lol ive had that board befor Jan 13 19:20:08 its an ok board Jan 13 19:20:23 <-- fxer has quit ("Do it byte by byte") Jan 13 19:20:27 um Dagmar where do i get fwbuilder Jan 13 19:20:59 XandriX: dont get my wrong ive had no problems with it, it just wasnt the one i wanted, oh and i accidently bought the special audio version Jan 13 19:21:02 o nvm found it Jan 13 19:21:11 i have some wierd audio ports on it Jan 13 19:21:21 well still you prob got a better soudn card then i did Jan 13 19:21:22 can someone look at this, and see if it's a good output? http://www.pastebin.com/228465 Jan 13 19:21:37 i had a crapy no suround sound one Jan 13 19:21:41 <-- nachox has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 19:21:45 where is /etc/sysconfig/network for slackware? :/ Jan 13 19:21:46 but i ahve a surround sound system fro my ppc Jan 13 19:22:05 XandriX: The 2.x version uses QT and is a little crazy. The 1.x version is no longer (visually) available on Sourceforge, but is a lot easier to deal with, IMHO. They both have configuration wizards that mostly make a working (if not very efficient) ruleset. Jan 13 19:22:10 i want that nforce2 surround sound, its like the best onboard sound, it has dolby digital encoding i believe Jan 13 19:22:21 nullvalue: It doesn't exist. Try /etc/rc.d/rc.inet* Jan 13 19:22:24 I have that but I have the 5.1 encoding turned off for the most part Jan 13 19:22:25 --> beltorak (~kvirc@ip68-230-199-179.rd.hr.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:22:30 oh ok :) Jan 13 19:22:34 yep Jan 13 19:22:34 --> XGizzmo (1001@xgizzmo.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:22:37 Dagmar: ek; that didn't work Jan 13 19:22:39 thats the one i have Jan 13 19:22:44 NVIDIA SOUNDSTORM Jan 13 19:22:45 --> fxer (fxer@c-1ad1e253.017-2113-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:22:47 beltorak: What didn't work Jan 13 19:22:59 ndiswrapper -- does it require windows XP drivers? Jan 13 19:23:00 um Dagmar any idea where to get the 1.x Jan 13 19:23:02 i just have some wierd thing where my mic/line in inputs are switched to rear/sub output Jan 13 19:23:09 i hate it Jan 13 19:23:17 k Jan 13 19:23:18 well Jan 13 19:23:21 save your money Jan 13 19:23:34 and get a new board Jan 13 19:23:36 recompile the kernel for your new board Jan 13 19:23:38 and boom Jan 13 19:23:39 my rear speakers havent work in months :P Jan 13 19:23:39 beltorak, windows drivers on *nix? :S Jan 13 19:23:42 XandriX: You pretty much have to guess filenames, since they won't _show_ you the files as being available, but they're there. Jan 13 19:23:48 worked* Jan 13 19:23:51 ndiswrapper requires the windows drivers, yes Jan 13 19:23:54 Kyle_S still here? Jan 13 19:24:06 thats what it does -- wraps the windows ndis drivers Jan 13 19:24:19 hrm... Jan 13 19:24:25 fwbuilder-1.1.2.tar.gz Jan 13 19:24:25 XandriX: i want to do that, but i want an athlon64, and i still need to replace my aging geforce4 video card Jan 13 19:24:28 rigth Dagmar Jan 13 19:24:38 geforce 4 ti or mx Jan 13 19:24:39 XandriX: Yeah, you also need libfwbuilder-1.0.2 I believe Jan 13 19:24:45 ti4600 Jan 13 19:24:46 cuz ti is good Jan 13 19:24:49 Ther'es no libfwbuilder-1.1.x so don't let it confuse you Jan 13 19:24:53 i ahve TI4400 Jan 13 19:25:08 mine cost me $260 new Jan 13 19:25:11 my old board did the port switching trick (one of the reasons it didn't get full SoundStorm certification despite all the hardware being there). I think I have the individual connectors - including S/PDIF I/O - on the new one though Jan 13 19:25:15 Zalamander: Yea man I'm here. Jan 13 19:25:18 My only problem with it is that by default it makes a bunch of rules that apply to all the interfaces, which is sloppy. Jan 13 19:25:20 Kyle_S I think I wouldn't create such a table -- one item, one row is the rule I try to follow. Instead, I'd create a join table with all the data, and select random slices of size N from it. Jan 13 19:25:22 * Dominian uses ndiswrapper to power his wifi card on his notebook Jan 13 19:25:27 works great Jan 13 19:25:37 I considered a GF4 Ti but reading the reviews indicated the 9500 Pro shat all over it so I bought that instead Jan 13 19:25:38 it looked like an overclocking monster but is only stable after a 5-10mhz increase Jan 13 19:25:48 * Dagmar uses madwifi... and it works like crap, but Atheros is kinda sketchy anyway Jan 13 19:25:56 whois phrag hi, you around? Jan 13 19:25:58 oops Jan 13 19:26:01 Zalamander: so you'd have tables for all the random parts of the final (in this case resume), then just use a join to put it togeather? Jan 13 19:26:02 what a day :) Jan 13 19:26:12 Kyle_S yep Jan 13 19:26:27 hrumm. Jan 13 19:26:50 What would be the disadvantage of creating some table for it? /* although I think I'm going to follow your advice */ Jan 13 19:27:26 <-- AcidChild has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 19:27:31 thx Dagmar Jan 13 19:27:40 * XandriX uninstalls shorewall Jan 13 19:27:49 shorewlal wouldnet even start anywyas Jan 13 19:28:06 Kyle_S I'm not sure I understand the specific difference you are distinguishing. Do you mean to create a single large table containing all the data, rather than separte tables for each part? Jan 13 19:30:15 Zalamander: I have seperate tables for all the parts. I was origonally thinking of having a table that, for each row, referenced a bunch of other tables. Problem being it would need to reference some of the other tables n times. Jan 13 19:30:16 * XandriX thanks Dagmar for showing him fwbuilder Jan 13 19:30:26 Kyle_S I think it's fine to create an interim table, I just suggest not creating rows that contain N items. Rather, create rows that contain 1 item, and select N rows from it. The advantage is that this leaves the data searchable, with the full power of the database. Jan 13 19:31:03 OK. Doing it like that won't have an adverse affect on speed (when it gets a whole lot of users/data)? Jan 13 19:31:50 Kyle_S well, that depends on what is a whole lot. With MySQL, that would have to be billions of rows to create a noticeable difference probably. Jan 13 19:32:12 * Kyle_S nods nods Jan 13 19:32:16 More than this will ever see. Jan 13 19:32:35 OK Just wanted to make sure, because I've never actually designed one of these before ;) Jan 13 19:33:07 cool, it's nice to be able to share. I so seldom actual iterate these things ... it's good for me. Jan 13 19:33:40 Hehe. Cool. Jan 13 19:33:47 I'll let you know how it all comes out! Jan 13 19:33:54 --> _Hitek_ (~Hitek@ALille-209-1-16-240.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:33:55 --> elius (~elius@CBL217-132-104-8.bb.netvision.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:35:12 --> sami (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:36:07 hey um Dagmar what is the command to start fwbuilder Jan 13 19:36:17 --> UQlev (~yuriy@ykulyev.logos.cy.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:36:22 libsigc++ whats that Jan 13 19:37:11 --> specialsauce (~captainho@ip68-104-201-117.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:38:07 How to change a modification date time of a file ? Jan 13 19:38:39 I am trying to mount a usb flash hard drive. I am running kernel 2.6.9 and when I run lsusb I can see Bus 001 Device 002: ID 041e:4106 Creative Technology, Ltd Nomad MuVo MP3 Player. Do I need to enable scsi device support to mount this drive? Jan 13 19:39:21 What is the command to change a file modification date & time? Jan 13 19:39:42 kosmonaft: touch Jan 13 19:39:45 kosmonaft the command "touch" will update it to the present moment Jan 13 19:39:48 um Dagmar im gonna guess its fwbuilder Jan 13 19:40:07 specialsauce: yes Jan 13 19:40:20 specialsauce: should be using usb_storage module and scsi_mod module Jan 13 19:40:36 --- AcidChil1 is now known as AcidChild Jan 13 19:40:44 <-- button has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 19:40:46 eermm Jan 13 19:40:48 did i time out? Jan 13 19:41:01 AcidChild sorry, you're out of time outs Jan 13 19:41:03 um Dagmar gtkmm not present or not configured Jan 13 19:41:16 ... Jan 13 19:41:43 --> raindog (~raindog@dervish.library.oregonstate.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:41:57 <-- Epidemical has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 19:42:26 Zalamander, i don't want it to upadte to a present... I want to move it back ... Jan 13 19:42:30 Can anyone help me understand what this netfilter log entry means? Jan 13 18:39:08 polaris kernel: FIREWALL: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:0c:6e:97:d3:92:00:06:25:96:f6:e8:08:00 SRC=64.154.80.250 DST=10.0.0.42 LEN=41 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=245 ID=23310 PROTO=TCP SPT=80 DPT=34114 WINDOW=7032 RES=0x00 ACK PSH URGP=0 Jan 13 19:42:45 Dominian, what module scsi_mod in xconfig? Jan 13 19:42:47 <-- Marverick has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 13 19:42:58 specialsauce: make menuconfig in your kernel Jan 13 19:43:05 * Dominian doesn't recall which one it is, but it is there Jan 13 19:43:14 kosmonaft hm, sounds nefarious to me! Jan 13 19:44:05 --> simedw (1000@h10n4c1o1043.bredband.skanova.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:44:44 Zalamander, alright Jan 13 19:45:00 Hi, I tried to get firefox to use java, but I can't get it to work. I downloaded j2re1.4.2_01 and installed it. Jan 13 19:46:05 Dominian, yeah, thats what I did Jan 13 19:46:05 and after that I made a symbloic link from usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so to /usr/local/firefox/plugin Jan 13 19:46:20 but when I start firfox nothing has change Jan 13 19:46:25 I am just wondering what module it was. do i just need scsi disk support? Jan 13 19:46:35 specialsauce: I think you just have to install basic scsi support.. but make sure it is a module and not directly compiled into the kernel Jan 13 19:46:39 StevenR that is part of a web page coming back to you from 64.154.80.250 Jan 13 19:46:52 StevenR (presumably one you asked for) Jan 13 19:46:54 Zalamander: why did it drop into my logs then? Jan 13 19:47:19 StevenR no idea. One of your iptables rules with a LOG target must have matched that packet. Jan 13 19:47:34 simedw: do: locate libjavaplugin_oji.so Jan 13 19:47:38 make sure that it's in that directory first Jan 13 19:47:57 Zalamander: $IPT -t filter -A INPUT -m limit --limit 1/second --limit-burst 5 -j LOG --log-prefix "FIREWALL: " is the only thing that logs Jan 13 19:48:29 <-- beltorak has quit ("Using KVIrc 3.0.1 'System Virtue'") Jan 13 19:48:52 StevenR hm, that appears that it would log everything that comes into the machine. Jan 13 19:49:05 formatting 400gb harddrive partition... this sucks Jan 13 19:49:09 taking forever Jan 13 19:49:10 hehe Jan 13 19:49:27 Zalamander: yes, it should, nothing that isn't sent by me should be dropped and logged Jan 13 19:49:48 StevenR: what log is the writing to? Jan 13 19:49:49 Zalamander: i run no services on this box, not even sshd Jan 13 19:50:06 Dominian: it writes to syslogd Jan 13 19:50:09 --> jjdm (~jjdm@84-72-61-16.dclient.hispeed.ch) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:50:11 ok thats what I thought Jan 13 19:50:20 --- foquinha is now known as palerma Jan 13 19:50:24 /usr/lib/j2sdk1.4.2_04/jre/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so Jan 13 19:50:26 StevenR: I've not messed with the log-prefix switch yet Jan 13 19:50:33 <-- ximpul has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 19:50:33 StevenR OK, but there's nothing in that rule that specifies only new connection attempts -- it would log things like that web page that is returned to you by request. Jan 13 19:50:34 simedw: ok then go into /usr/local/firefox Jan 13 19:50:45 simedw: not plugins.. /usr/local/firefox Jan 13 19:50:53 --> tankbiotech (same@69.90.159.111) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:50:54 simedw: while in /usr/local/firefox issue this command: ln -s /usr/lib/j2sdk1.4.2_04/jre/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so Jan 13 19:50:55 <-- sami_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 19:50:57 simedw: then try again Jan 13 19:51:13 * Dominian has done this same thing on two machines.. works great Jan 13 19:51:26 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:51:56 StevenR actually, you have "-m limit". Now that I think about it, this rule would only log packets that exceeded that limit. Jan 13 19:52:07 <-- thr1ce has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 13 19:52:20 where is the kernel src kept? Jan 13 19:52:22 hehe so ping yourself continously Jan 13 19:52:27 AcidChild: /usr/src Jan 13 19:52:29 StevenR ... I think. It sounds like what you're looking for is "-m state --state NEW" Jan 13 19:52:30 Nothing changed Jan 13 19:52:34 ta :)) Jan 13 19:52:38 --> thr1ce (~andrew@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:52:41 simedw: then something in your install is borked Jan 13 19:52:46 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:52:51 Zalamander: it's one log entry, there's only one of it, that's why i'm curious Jan 13 19:52:51 hey...can someone tell me if this is a good output? : http://www.pastebin.com/228465 Jan 13 19:52:58 Limits in netfilter do not work in what most people would consider a straightforward manner Jan 13 19:53:03 simedw: Not sure where you got the install for firefox at. I just instaleld into my local user directory and used it from my /home directory Jan 13 19:53:20 StevenR yeah, that's why I think that it only logs packets that exceed the specified burst rate, as the rule is written Jan 13 19:53:24 --> tai (~tarun@CPE00122553c74f-CM001225419a92.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:53:29 anyone...? Jan 13 19:53:33 i think i've done it! Jan 13 19:53:42 thr1ce: looks fine to me Jan 13 19:53:49 awesome Jan 13 19:53:49 --> button (~daemon@ns.sevsky.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:53:51 --> JustinTArthur (~JustinTAr@static-151-199-9-6.roa.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:53:51 thanks :) Jan 13 19:54:02 But you wont know till those firewall rules start getting "used" Jan 13 19:54:05 fixed it :)it had something with ownerthings to do :) Jan 13 19:54:31 sigh linux doesn't have a driver for my printer Jan 13 19:54:32 Zalamander: here's my firewall setup....start/stop/restart bits removed http://rafb.net/paste/results/hcEDFf26.html Jan 13 19:54:45 simedw: hehe Jan 13 19:55:23 --> bukenn (~weqwe@h224n2fls35o258.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:55:28 --> sami_ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:55:47 woops Jan 13 19:56:04 pulls the network lead out =/ Jan 13 19:56:07 am i still here? Jan 13 19:56:15 <-- tankbiotech (same@69.90.159.111) has left ##slackware Jan 13 19:56:17 <-- feross has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 19:56:34 AcidChild, yes. Jan 13 19:56:37 :D Jan 13 19:56:38 AcidChild: no Jan 13 19:56:39 thx Jan 13 19:56:42 You only imagine you are Jan 13 19:56:43 Dominian: pfftt Jan 13 19:56:45 Anyone knows whats wrong if i dont get the network works on my slack comp? It have work before but now it just says network notreachable or something when i try to ping google.com etc. Someone who maybe have time to help me? Jan 13 19:56:56 i guess windows it is Jan 13 19:57:20 StevenR I see, so the rule should log everything that is dropped (up to the rate limit for logging). So why was that dropped? The first rule would seem to accept it, assuming you actually did make that HTTP request from that machine? Jan 13 19:57:40 Zalamander: adware packet? Jan 13 19:57:50 <-- XandriX has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 19:58:18 bukenn: give us more info, as much as you can... cards,versions, kernel...etc.etc Jan 13 19:58:19 <-- tai has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 19:58:21 StevenR ah, very possibly some something like that. Jan 13 19:58:45 --> roa (~roa@201.129.192.136) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 19:59:20 --- roa is now known as Roa Jan 13 20:00:05 StevenR: I use defualt kernel from slack 10.0..And i have a netgear card... And slack did find my network card from the begining of the slack installation and so. Jan 13 20:00:44 StevenR and i did the netconfig and evrythings there is right =/ Jan 13 20:01:01 <-- sami has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 13 20:01:35 bukenn: physical connections ok? how are you connecting? Jan 13 20:02:18 Im using a router D-Link.... StevenR i cant still ping in the local network eather Jan 13 20:02:51 <-- Lurkan has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 20:03:13 <-- kosmonaft has quit ("...") Jan 13 20:03:15 bukenn: you connect the router to what? Jan 13 20:03:28 bukenn: type: route as root Jan 13 20:03:34 Do you have a default route Jan 13 20:03:37 and it will be labeled default Jan 13 20:03:57 <-- alisson__ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 20:03:59 Dominian i mean a router, how do i explain this its like a ADSL Modem...u know Jan 13 20:04:11 oh, sry Jan 13 20:04:23 hehe i saw wrong..ok gona test that Jan 13 20:04:40 Zalamander: also im getting these, any idea what they mean? Jan 13 14:54:47 polaris kernel: FIREWALL: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:06:25:96:f6:e8:08:00 SRC=10.0.0.84 DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=576 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=150 ID=1 PROTO=UDP SPT=67 DPT=68 LEN=556 Jan 13 20:04:51 <-- fubar has quit ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") Jan 13 20:04:53 I had the same type of issues setting up my wifi card Jan 13 20:04:54 brb Jan 13 20:05:06 Dominian i see some called loopback and my gateway Jan 13 20:05:24 bukenn: make sure the physical connections are sound. is it a wire connection or wireless? Jan 13 20:06:13 StevenR my english is bad so i try to understand best i can... I have direct Internet connection....with cable Jan 13 20:06:32 hello all. does anyone see anything wrong with my code at http://www.ezrafree.com/shoutcast.pl.txt ? Jan 13 20:06:49 bukenn: you connect the cable to the router, which is a hub for all of your pc's too? Jan 13 20:07:03 StevenR yes that right :) Jan 13 20:07:13 bukenn: check the wires are all connected and that the router lights are on Jan 13 20:07:23 --> whiny (whiny@whiny.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:07:34 <_SiegeX> StevenR: looks like a DHCP broadcast from 10.0.0.84 Jan 13 20:07:36 StevenR yes, done...all lights is working Jan 13 20:07:46 bukenn: can you ping the router's ip address? Jan 13 20:08:01 gona test w8 Jan 13 20:08:19 <-- whiny (whiny@whiny.user) has left ##slackware Jan 13 20:08:19 --> viLeR (~miv@aurora.telesat.com.co) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:08:20 --> XandriX (~slack@dsl-147-129.aei.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:08:29 StevenR nope it doesnt work =/ Jan 13 20:08:37 _SiegeX: thanks. Jan 13 20:08:44 <_SiegeX> btw, you can test to make sure your physical connections are OK buy running the command 'mii-tool' Jan 13 20:08:59 StevenR that's a broadcast packet from one of your local machines, maybe a router doing arp? Jan 13 20:09:01 <_SiegeX> as root Jan 13 20:09:28 <_SiegeX> Zalamander: close, DHCP Jan 13 20:09:28 hey if i want a good rc.firewall that gives priorirty to certain ports and accepts certian prots Jan 13 20:09:29 _SiegeX it says etho0 link ok and stuff Jan 13 20:09:33 anyy good primers for that Jan 13 20:09:34 Zalamander: it'll be the router doin dhcp then Jan 13 20:09:39 _SiegeX ah yes, I see now Jan 13 20:09:46 yep, port 68 Jan 13 20:09:49 --- _SiegeX is now known as SiegeX Jan 13 20:09:52 --> bubba_ (~bubba@c-67-171-159-156.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:10:19 sorry, one last log entry: Jan 13 14:54:46 polaris kernel: FIREWALL: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:e0:98:97:49:5b:08:00 SRC=0.0.0.0 DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=128 ID=0 PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308 Jan 13 20:10:25 um Jan 13 20:10:45 any webpage with a prebuilt rc.firewall and a lil primer for iptalbe rules woudl be very apreciated Jan 13 20:10:53 Im trying to upgrade an old slack kernel with a 2.6.7 slack kernel, mkinitrd blows up on me thoguh. i get errors about mount, unmount, rm, cp, mktmp... Jan 13 20:10:54 XandriX: netfilter.org Jan 13 20:11:09 StevenR i did run the mii-tool command and it says its "O.K" =/ Jan 13 20:11:13 --> Destructo (~destructo@pool-68-161-113-196.ny325.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:11:14 thx StevenR Jan 13 20:11:16 StevenR also something to do with DHCP, but I don't know what the SRC=0.0.0.0 means Jan 13 20:11:19 XandriX: Iptables Tutorial -> http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html Jan 13 20:11:28 better than the docs at netfilter.org IMHO Jan 13 20:11:32 bukenn: ok, so physical connection is good. what does ifconfig show? Jan 13 20:11:33 hey hey. i need some qt help.. how many lines can i paste ? Jan 13 20:11:40 thx SiegeX Jan 13 20:11:42 Zalamander: an uber-broadcast packet? Jan 13 20:11:45 no matter how I run mkinitrd, it does the same thing. just error messages. Jan 13 20:11:48 StevenR ok, i gona run and look...w9 Jan 13 20:11:55 especially try to understand chapter 3 Jan 13 20:12:01 <-- seemawn has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 20:12:10 ie, how packets traverse netfilter Jan 13 20:12:31 bash-3.00$ qtorrent Jan 13 20:12:31 Traceback (most recent call last): Jan 13 20:12:31 File "./qtorrent", line 10, in ? Jan 13 20:12:31 from qt import QApplication - ImportError: No module named qt Jan 13 20:12:32 <-- nixor has kicked Destructo from ##slackware (flood) Jan 13 20:12:37 StevenR I'd guess (maybe SiegeX can confirm) that it's a broadcast packet requesting that each machine return a broadcast itself. Jan 13 20:12:44 meenign i shoudl only rea chapter 3 or the hole thing Jan 13 20:12:47 --> Destructo (~destructo@pool-68-161-113-196.ny325.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:12:53 yeah yeah Jan 13 20:13:53 XandriX: depends on how much background you currently have in networking protocols Jan 13 20:13:59 StevenR inet add... is just 127.0.0.1 and so, and i see some package send errors Jan 13 20:14:19 port forwarding port allow deny etc Jan 13 20:14:21 all i no Jan 13 20:14:35 --> _mps_ (~mps@carol-225-216-097.ctbctelecom.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:14:50 <-- UQlev (~yuriy@ykulyev.logos.cy.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 13 20:15:17 I would suggest you read chapters 3 and 4 front to back before starting with chapter 6 which is where the tutorial really starts Jan 13 20:15:28 kj Jan 13 20:15:29 bukenn: run netconfig again, and make sure you give yourself a proper ip address, similar to the one of the router. what is the router's ip? Jan 13 20:15:30 thx Jan 13 20:15:30 <-- khronus has quit () Jan 13 20:15:45 --> rebewt_ (~rebewt@h3n3c1o1120.bredband.skanova.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:15:50 StevenR 192.168.0.1 Jan 13 20:16:11 bukenn: are there other pc's connected to it? what are their ip's? Jan 13 20:16:16 I know that i have done all right thing in the netconfig thats the wierd thing... Jan 13 20:16:30 StevenR you mean local IP or the net ip? Jan 13 20:16:52 make sure you give ip's like 192.168.0.x Jan 13 20:16:57 where x is unique Jan 13 20:17:00 <-- rebewt has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 20:17:07 StevenR yeah i have done that Jan 13 20:17:22 --> Epidemical (mmelin@c-6f3ae253.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:18:00 bukenn: try /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 stop , then /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 start Jan 13 20:18:17 StevenR ok, gona write it down and run to my room hehe...brb Jan 13 20:18:19 bukenn: are you sure you've loaded the correct modules? Jan 13 20:18:33 <-- _mps_ (~mps@carol-225-216-097.ctbctelecom.com.br) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 13 20:18:57 StevenR yeah, it worked like last week Jan 13 20:19:02 but i reinstalled the comp Jan 13 20:19:20 Ok, gona test the thing now...brb Jan 13 20:19:20 ssh is tcp or udp Jan 13 20:19:35 tcp Jan 13 20:19:38 thx Jan 13 20:19:42 making firewall rules Jan 13 20:19:44 --- rebewt_ is now known as rebewt Jan 13 20:21:58 StevenR: Now it works...thank you so much for the help ;) Jan 13 20:22:05 bukenn: np Jan 13 20:22:09 :) Jan 13 20:22:43 anyone any ideas what connects on port 138? Jan 13 20:23:04 <-- TaQ has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 20:23:40 StevenR I wonder if you maybe now why i cant have 1600x1200 in resulution, when i startx its allways like 1204xdefualt... but i have change the resolution in the xorg conf file.. i think its pretty wierd :) Jan 13 20:23:57 Thats only my last question StevenR ^^ Jan 13 20:24:00 bukenn: dunno about xorg really. Jan 13 20:24:06 aha ok :) Jan 13 20:24:18 --> larry_lumbo (~dev@bgp01014816bgs.rosvle01.mi.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:24:50 hey guys my cpu is running at 99% constantly Jan 13 20:25:15 something is seriously wrong Jan 13 20:25:17 larry_lumbo: top will show you what's eating cpu time Jan 13 20:26:19 its vi Jan 13 20:26:24 jesus christ Jan 13 20:26:44 kill it Jan 13 20:26:47 how do i kill it Jan 13 20:26:52 kill vi? Jan 13 20:26:57 kill -9 pid Jan 13 20:27:07 top shows you the pid Jan 13 20:27:09 --> mparthas (~mparthas@174pc.wohnheimg.uni-frankfurt.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:27:26 <-- jjdm has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 20:28:04 bash: kill: (6390) - Operation not permitted Jan 13 20:28:12 shorewall failed to start iptables: No chain/target/match by that name Jan 13 20:28:21 <-- viLeR has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 20:28:34 killall vi Jan 13 20:28:41 StevenR I dont gona bother you anymore, thank you again. Do you know any site that i can read and learn how to fix the bash-2...thing in my terminal..because it should be like bukenn@toilet etc.. Jan 13 20:28:45 killall -9 vi Jan 13 20:28:54 ahh that did it Jan 13 20:29:01 :) Jan 13 20:29:06 thanks guys Jan 13 20:29:12 --> adjacent (~scott@63.209.153.130) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:29:18 i was starting to get scared Jan 13 20:29:25 bukenn: does source /etc/profile fix it? Jan 13 20:29:36 gona look Jan 13 20:29:51 bukenn: gateway eh Jan 13 20:30:05 should i recompile my kernel to 2.6 Jan 13 20:30:16 localnet * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 Jan 13 20:30:17 loopback * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo Jan 13 20:30:17 default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 1 0 0 eth0 Jan 13 20:30:20 or should i stay with 2.4.28 Jan 13 20:30:21 Look anything like that bukenn Jan 13 20:30:29 * StevenR holds up his "2.4 series kernels forever" sign Jan 13 20:30:36 StevenR: DIE 2.4! Jan 13 20:30:39 * Dominian smiles Jan 13 20:30:48 will i benifit form the newer kernels Jan 13 20:30:49 --> Zarco (~chatzilla@ip-195-95-33-61.dsl.scarlet.be) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:30:57 * StevenR watches Dominian 's 2.6 kernel crash Jan 13 20:31:05 StevenR: Never had an issue yet Jan 13 20:31:08 StevenR: even using udev Jan 13 20:31:11 * Dominian :P Jan 13 20:31:17 StevenR: Yeah it works, but after i shutdown my terminal then it says bash again.. :) Jan 13 20:32:22 StevenR 138 is NETBIOS Jan 13 20:32:55 <-- ximpul has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 20:33:06 Zalamander: so it's a windows machine saying "woooooo! anybody theeerrrreeee" ? Jan 13 20:33:21 StevenR: Do you run samba? Jan 13 20:33:23 StevenR yeah, or a samba server running nmbd Jan 13 20:33:30 bukenn: add that line to ~/.bashrc Jan 13 20:33:40 If you run samba as a wins client or a wins server.. you'll get that Jan 13 20:33:40 StevenR thank you! Jan 13 20:33:46 np bukenn Jan 13 20:33:58 Dominian: only linux box here is me Jan 13 20:34:06 StevenR: doesn't matter... is samba running? lol Jan 13 20:34:07 and i aint runnin it Jan 13 20:34:12 ok Jan 13 20:34:45 <-- UZY (~jack@200-103-150-114.ctame7041.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has left ##slackware Jan 13 20:34:56 --> UZY (~jack@200-103-150-114.ctame7041.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:35:08 <-- UZY (~jack@200-103-150-114.ctame7041.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has left ##slackware Jan 13 20:35:19 <-- rignes has quit ("leaving") Jan 13 20:35:53 iptables -A smurfs -s 192.168.0.255 -j ULOG --ulog-prefix Shorewall:smurfs:DROP: Jan 13 20:35:53 --> UZY (~jack@200-103-150-114.ctame7041.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:35:53 iptables: No chain/target/match by that name Jan 13 20:36:07 sorry Jan 13 20:36:18 any idea Jan 13 20:36:36 --> bsdevious (~bsd@deadnetwork.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:36:40 iptables: No chain/target/match by that name Jan 13 20:36:43 iptables -A smurfs -s 192.168.0.255 -j ULOG --ulog-prefix Shorewall:smurfs:DROP: Jan 13 20:37:03 * StevenR is wondering which computer 10.0.0.12 is Jan 13 20:37:10 --> havran_ (~havran@158.195.102.161) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:37:31 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:37:48 <-- debd00d has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 20:37:54 --> x1nux (~internet@64.76.81.101) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:38:18 --> SystemX (~systemx@static24-72-27-78.reverse.accesscomm.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:38:25 --> bob1 (~luke@82-34-124-164.cable.ubr01.gray.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:38:29 --> OhMyAchinLap (~chris@acs-24-144-154-158.zoominternet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:38:40 be back in a bit. Jan 13 20:38:45 <-- x1nux (~internet@64.76.81.101) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 13 20:38:49 XandriX you have no "smurfs" chain. You have to create it before you can add a rule to it. Jan 13 20:38:51 later Jan 13 20:38:59 ??? Jan 13 20:39:05 what is smurf Jan 13 20:39:18 i dont know what i was thinking using kde/gnome fluxbox is great Jan 13 20:39:20 im using shorewall Jan 13 20:39:41 larry_lumbo: just wait til you get the menu, background, etc. customized Jan 13 20:39:48 XandriX um, I don't know what shorewall is. But if you are running it correctly, and it generates that error, then it is broken. Jan 13 20:39:50 i am starting Jan 13 20:39:57 transparent Jan 13 20:40:01 a ok Jan 13 20:40:04 installing themes Jan 13 20:40:06 well thx Zalamander Jan 13 20:40:14 but hwo do i create what you said i shoudl create Jan 13 20:40:17 larry_lumbo: edit ~/.fluxbox/menu to your liking Jan 13 20:40:28 yes i have Jan 13 20:40:34 XandriX iptables -C smurfs (iirc) Jan 13 20:40:37 do you know how to set a wallpaper? Jan 13 20:40:50 stuck on changing colors on xterm though Jan 13 20:40:55 <-- rebewt has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 20:40:56 (iirc) ??? Jan 13 20:41:04 --> sami___ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:41:05 XandriX "if I recall correctly" Jan 13 20:41:12 ok Jan 13 20:41:15 larry_lumbo: man xterm Jan 13 20:41:29 thanks Jan 13 20:41:29 Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information. Jan 13 20:41:31 ... Jan 13 20:41:41 StevenR Hi again, this maybe sounds pretty silly but i cant find the .bashrc file, it should be in the home directory right? Jan 13 20:41:47 larry_lumbo: check out Eterm, it's pretty nice Jan 13 20:41:49 XandriX check out the "wtf" command, like "wtf iirc" Jan 13 20:41:54 eterm Jan 13 20:42:07 Eterm is very customizable, and pretty quick Jan 13 20:42:07 Zalamander, comon Jan 13 20:42:10 where is the kernel 2.6.* on the slackware 10 disks? Jan 13 20:42:14 okay i will do that now Jan 13 20:42:18 in /testing Jan 13 20:42:23 XandriX ah, it's "iptables -N smurfs" (for "new", not "create") Jan 13 20:42:30 larry_lumbo: I think there is even a slack-pack on the eterm website Jan 13 20:42:33 AcidChild, dont take the one on the cd Jan 13 20:42:36 XandriX I'm serious about the "wtf" command Jan 13 20:42:40 XandriX: ... Jan 13 20:42:40 tkae it form kernel.org Jan 13 20:42:45 i made a mistake by installing swaret i will never do that again Jan 13 20:42:47 well. Jan 13 20:42:50 Zalamander, wtf doe snot exist Jan 13 20:42:55 larry_lumbo: yes, bad idea Jan 13 20:43:01 XandriX hm, you running slackware? Jan 13 20:43:03 it fucked everything up Jan 13 20:43:04 i cant get *.*.10 working. Jan 13 20:43:05 =/ Jan 13 20:43:13 it fucks stuff up Jan 13 20:43:19 awww Jan 13 20:43:28 <-- blaylock has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 20:43:28 using the correct way now Jan 13 20:43:32 * XandriX pats AcidChild on the back 3 times Jan 13 20:43:34 http://www.eterm.org/download/EtermSlackware.tar.gz Jan 13 20:43:38 there is eterm site Jan 13 20:43:39 aakk Jan 13 20:43:50 XandriX: my mouse just didnt work =( Jan 13 20:43:55 thr1ce: thanks Jan 13 20:44:02 shit Jan 13 20:44:04 no mous Jan 13 20:44:05 --> rebewt (~rebewt@h166n2c1o1120.bredband.skanova.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:44:06 can i use the 2.4.* confile file on 2.6.* compile Jan 13 20:44:09 did you enable mouse support Jan 13 20:44:12 the "correct" way really isn't much harder; a little more time consuming, maybe, but you know it's right Jan 13 20:44:15 um Jan 13 20:44:15 no Jan 13 20:44:20 k Jan 13 20:44:23 well i thoght i did. Jan 13 20:44:28 but looks like i didnt =( Jan 13 20:44:34 i will see. this time i go thu it Jan 13 20:44:35 i like installpkg Jan 13 20:44:36 Anyone knows how i can find the .bashrc file? Cant see anyone =/ Jan 13 20:44:40 me too XD Jan 13 20:44:42 no Jan 13 20:44:42 bukenn, ls Jan 13 20:44:43 pretty simple Jan 13 20:44:45 take that back Jan 13 20:44:49 i hate packaged Jan 13 20:44:50 or if it isn't there 'touch ~/.bashrc' Jan 13 20:44:52 ls -a Jan 13 20:44:54 i should say Jan 13 20:44:54 larry_lumbo: that link i gave you has packages in it, you just have to untar it first Jan 13 20:44:55 /s/d/s Jan 13 20:44:56 reading changelogs etc.. Jan 13 20:44:56 Squall` yea in the home directory Jan 13 20:44:57 <-- specialsauce has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 20:45:04 Squall` ok Jan 13 20:45:07 tar xvfz etermslackware.tar.gz or whatever it was Jan 13 20:45:08 src rules!! Jan 13 20:45:08 yep Jan 13 20:45:09 <-- SystemX has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 20:45:15 you need to add the -a flag to see anything that begins with a . Jan 13 20:45:17 \o/ Jan 13 20:45:26 thr1ce: thank you Jan 13 20:45:30 source is a pain to uninstall Jan 13 20:45:55 Squall` i dont see anyone.... Jan 13 20:46:03 then create the file Jan 13 20:46:04 FINALLY have iptables working :) Jan 13 20:46:09 it doesn't come by default Jan 13 20:46:11 you have to make it Jan 13 20:46:13 why do people use swaret if it breaks things ? Jan 13 20:46:20 larry_lumbo, because they are communists Jan 13 20:46:21 source IS a pain to uninstall.. that's why you build slackpacks Jan 13 20:46:21 people are lazy Jan 13 20:46:23 next question Jan 13 20:46:31 phrag: which reminds me.. I have updated Evolution packages. Jan 13 20:46:34 <-- sami_ has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 13 20:46:41 hey Dominian Jan 13 20:46:42 <-- havran has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 13 20:46:43 Squall` aha ok, so i should just make in the /home directory? not /home/bukenn ? Jan 13 20:46:43 larry_lumbo people are under the misimpression that slackware's native tools are somehow difficult to use Jan 13 20:46:45 hey thri Jan 13 20:46:47 er.. Jan 13 20:46:48 isnt that what this distro is based on though doing it own your own ? Jan 13 20:46:49 thr1ce: Jan 13 20:46:52 bukenn, no Jan 13 20:47:00 larry_lumbo: yep Jan 13 20:47:03 --> duardo (~Eduardo@200.168.58.218) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:47:07 larry_lumbo: yes Jan 13 20:47:09 you couldn't make it in /home anyway, you don't have permission in there Jan 13 20:47:24 see i am learning Jan 13 20:47:30 Squall` ok, so it would be in /home/bukeen then? Jan 13 20:47:31 larry_lumbo: check out ikaro.dk for some really cool fluxbox themes Jan 13 20:47:31 <-- bob1 (~luke@82-34-124-164.cable.ubr01.gray.blueyonder.co.uk) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 13 20:47:45 --> ondebian (~compunix@200.101.124.204) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:47:45 yes, that's the only directory where you CAN put your stuff in, besides /tmp Jan 13 20:47:53 uuuu Jan 13 20:47:54 ok, thx alot Squall` Jan 13 20:47:57 larry_lumbo: what fluxbox are you running? Jan 13 20:47:58 Where do you as user set which script need to run on logon? .bashrd isn't helping me much .... Jan 13 20:48:04 bukenn: sorry, i was on the phone....just create the .bashrc file in your home directory Jan 13 20:48:18 ok :) Jan 13 20:48:20 Hello people, I'm from Brazil Jan 13 20:48:26 the one in current Jan 13 20:48:45 ondebian, hi Jan 13 20:48:59 Hello ondebian, I'm not from Brazil Jan 13 20:49:25 Dominian, Where are you? Jan 13 20:49:31 larry_lumbo: you are running all -current? Jan 13 20:49:33 ondebian: USA Jan 13 20:49:36 how do you see what version Jan 13 20:49:43 fluxbox -version Jan 13 20:49:45 /etc/slackware-version Jan 13 20:49:47 oh Jan 13 20:49:48 lol Jan 13 20:49:50 fluxbox Jan 13 20:49:57 or: ls /var/log/packages | grep fluxbox Jan 13 20:50:02 --> Analyzer (~Analyzer@ts3-a186.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:50:03 Dominian I'm unlike your president George Bush Jan 13 20:50:11 ondebian: Hooray.. join the crowd Jan 13 20:50:16 ondebian, don't bring politics in here Jan 13 20:50:17 Zarco you can specify it with "bash --rcfile ~/.bashrd", or easier, use the deafult ".bash_profile" instead Jan 13 20:50:18 fluxbox 0.9.10 Jan 13 20:50:26 Squall`, yes ok Jan 13 20:50:29 larry_lumbo: are you running all current? Jan 13 20:50:34 Squall`, I'm sorry Jan 13 20:50:39 it's okay Jan 13 20:50:42 Zarco .bash_profile is default for login shells ... for non-login shells .bashrc is the default Jan 13 20:50:51 um well just the security updates Jan 13 20:51:00 <-- candy_cane has quit () Jan 13 20:51:10 larry_lumbo the security updates from 10.0? Jan 13 20:51:10 the security updates from stable changelog or current? Jan 13 20:51:11 --- nixor removes ban on *!*@adsl-70-240-98-75.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net Jan 13 20:51:23 stable changelog Jan 13 20:51:28 ok, good Jan 13 20:51:36 Zalamander: thx, I red that .bash_profile was like _not done anymore_ ..., I'll check out ;) Jan 13 20:51:40 larry_lumbo: it is bad to download and use only certain packages from -current Jan 13 20:51:45 anyone here use shorewall Jan 13 20:51:50 larry_lumbo: go either go all out, or not at all Jan 13 20:51:57 ondebian: please dont /msg or /query me if you have a question for Slackware.. please post it to the room. If it has to pertain to anything else.. I really don't care. Jan 13 20:52:06 if anyoen here uses shorewall msg me Jan 13 20:52:10 yes just from the changelog Jan 13 20:52:24 larry_lumbo: good :) Jan 13 20:52:33 Zarco I dunno where you read that, but it is the first file that bash looks for when starting up. Only if it does not exist does bash then look for .bash_login and then .profile Jan 13 20:52:39 i have to learn the right way first Jan 13 20:52:44 Dominian, okay Jan 13 20:52:57 larry_lumbo: slackware 10.1 will come out soon Jan 13 20:53:04 yay Jan 13 20:53:28 --> Gartt_ (~brian@ip68-14-81-92.ri.ri.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:53:46 larry_lumbo to be clear, there is also a "current changelog" in addition to the "stable changelog". Jan 13 20:53:54 thr1ce: I would t hink so.. considering the last update to the -current changelog was Jan. 3 Jan 13 20:54:13 Dominian: yes; i think he's busy working on 10.1 Jan 13 20:54:51 Zalamander: Seems to work partially, I login, script runs and I get logouted instantly ... Jan 13 20:55:15 thr1ce: That would be my guess Jan 13 20:55:19 Zarco heh, I don't know what's causing that. Do you have "logout" in your startup script or something? Jan 13 20:55:42 Zarco or maybe "exit" ? Jan 13 20:56:43 * Zalamander goes to eat something Jan 13 20:56:52 its a user dedicated to run zope and development, calls zopectl start, thats all Jan 13 20:56:54 --> debd00d (~bacardi@c-24-19-219-0.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:56:56 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:56:59 should i keep mozilla or should i install firefox also Jan 13 20:57:23 Zarco huh, does the user have a real shell? Are you sure the script runs? Jan 13 20:57:32 * Zalamander really goes to eat something now Jan 13 20:57:43 larry_lumbo: I use firefox, but still have mozilla installed Jan 13 20:57:46 --> HeatHawk (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:58:08 --> systemx_ (~systemx@static24-72-27-78.reverse.accesscomm.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:58:30 --> specialsauce (~captainho@ip68-104-201-117.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 20:58:32 nice and clean Jan 13 20:58:34 heh i just my gkrellm transparent cool as hell Jan 13 20:58:58 little things amuse me Jan 13 20:59:03 * XandriX jsut freed 7.9 gb on his main harddrive Jan 13 20:59:04 lol...me too Jan 13 20:59:08 I can logon to zope Jan 13 20:59:12 i am sold Jan 13 20:59:42 i probably should buy the next version Jan 13 20:59:47 anyone here using sis onboard graphic chipset (Real 3D) ? Jan 13 21:00:05 <-- Roa has quit ("brb") Jan 13 21:00:06 is there a way to debug the workflow login -> script -> logout? Jan 13 21:00:55 Dominian, I enabled scsi and when I booted dmesg displayed that it found the device and enabled scsi emulation for it Jan 13 21:01:11 --> Roa (~wer@201.129.192.136) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:01:12 I still don't see any scsi listings in the /dev/ directory Jan 13 21:01:43 <-- Gartt has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 13 21:01:51 --> sdogi_ (~java@84-50-19-180-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:02:25 wth... doesn't slackware come with ipchains??? Jan 13 21:02:57 so should i attempt to recompile a kernel of the 2.6 series or stay with 2.4.28 Jan 13 21:03:12 nullvalue: you use iptables with slack10 and 2.4 kernel Jan 13 21:03:20 Dominian, nevermind, I pluged it back in and i noticed that module sd_mod loaded Jan 13 21:03:38 StevenR, another problem with reading docs... many times they're outdated :P Jan 13 21:04:02 --> ZapBrannigan (~ZapBranni@pool-68-161-113-196.ny325.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:04:19 anyne here use iwlist or iwconfig Jan 13 21:05:04 it said to use /sbin/ipchains in the /usr/docs/Linux-HOWTOs/Home-Network-mini-HOWTO :P Jan 13 21:05:09 <-- Destructo has quit (Success) Jan 13 21:07:49 --- nixor removes ban on *!*@69.90.194.233 Jan 13 21:08:26 nullvalue: well it's old then. but still probably mostly valid Jan 13 21:08:26 --> seemawn (~zomtec@p508102F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:08:27 <-- seemawn has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 21:08:43 --> zomtec (~zomtec@p508102F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:08:48 --> snarf (~rrtrett@12-220-134-83.client.insightBB.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:09:06 larry_lumbo: you have compiled 2.4.28? Jan 13 21:09:49 yes Jan 13 21:09:50 <-- taortan has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 21:10:37 whats the mac equiv of "wget" ? Jan 13 21:10:42 <-- UdontKnow has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 13 21:10:43 just not sure if i should go to the 2.6 series Jan 13 21:10:54 i am :) larry_lumbo Jan 13 21:10:54 same here, larry_lumbo Jan 13 21:11:00 i really like 2.4.28, though Jan 13 21:11:12 2.6.10 is downloading now :) Jan 13 21:11:14 \o/ Jan 13 21:11:15 --> taortan (~taortan@83.145.62.70) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:11:26 whats not to like about 2.6.* ? Jan 13 21:11:41 thr1ce: do you use hotplug Jan 13 21:11:48 ... Jan 13 21:11:51 <-- specialsauce has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 21:11:56 --> feross (~feross@techdept.boca.prosolutionsinc.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:11:59 been using 2.6 for a log time now Jan 13 21:12:20 AcidChild, why not just try the image in /testing ? :) Jan 13 21:12:22 2.6.10.... for along time too Jan 13 21:12:37 nullvalue: dont wana :) Jan 13 21:12:42 kk Jan 13 21:12:43 cause its better to compile it Jan 13 21:12:45 i want *.10 :) Jan 13 21:12:54 yes indeed oneforall Jan 13 21:13:00 larry, i will take a screenshot for you :) Jan 13 21:13:13 of my fluxbox Jan 13 21:13:17 okay sounds good to me Jan 13 21:13:21 fluxbox RULES!! Jan 13 21:13:23 \o/ Jan 13 21:13:36 i use blackbox for windows :) Jan 13 21:13:38 nahh XFce RULES!! Jan 13 21:13:43 its so fast like i said i dont know what the hell i was thinking using kde Jan 13 21:13:45 ;) Jan 13 21:13:47 NO. Jan 13 21:13:51 rulers rules! Jan 13 21:13:55 bad feross Jan 13 21:14:00 haha true Jan 13 21:14:08 xfce = fake gnome Jan 13 21:14:16 fluxbox rules. does anyone do wireless ? Jan 13 21:14:24 well when its empty of course its faster :) Jan 13 21:14:26 ZapBrannigan, yup :-D Jan 13 21:14:27 yes.. :) Jan 13 21:14:32 me me me me :)) Jan 13 21:14:44 with ndiswrapper and pris Jan 13 21:14:53 i use orinoco_pci :/ Jan 13 21:14:58 * feross pets his XFce mice... Jan 13 21:14:58 still haven't figured out hostap Jan 13 21:14:59 nullvalue how do you set your various connections. i have one but it keeps falling to a non open Jan 13 21:15:08 we av me wardrivin card and me round da house card :) Jan 13 21:15:16 iwconfig wlan0 essid "ssid name" Jan 13 21:15:22 i did that Jan 13 21:15:28 hrm Jan 13 21:15:39 then you did dhcpcd -d wlan0 again? Jan 13 21:15:41 should i retsrat it ? Jan 13 21:15:50 --> Ava3ar (~ava3ar@user-1256.l6.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:16:25 you can probably edit /etc/rc.d/rc.wireless so it just uses the ap you use all the time Jan 13 21:16:28 gotta admit tho fluxbox is ok on my 233Mhz laptop. Never use the old piece of **** but it works. Jan 13 21:16:30 <-- debd00d has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 21:16:42 <-- sdogi has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 13 21:17:09 feross, what x do you use? Jan 13 21:17:18 <-- MacGuyver_ has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 13 21:17:29 nullvalue, whatever comes with slax... Jan 13 21:17:33 ZapBrannigan: do iwlist wlan0 scanning Jan 13 21:17:42 then do iwconfig essid "" Jan 13 21:17:47 larry_lumbo: http://www.slackwaregallery.com/displayimage.php?pos=-1528 Jan 13 21:17:52 to make it lock to the nearst one. Jan 13 21:17:58 ifconfig wlan0 up Jan 13 21:17:59 nullvalue, I installed slax to the hd of an old laptop works great Jan 13 21:18:01 dhcpcd wlan0 Jan 13 21:18:09 jobs a good en Jan 13 21:18:13 <-- snarf (~rrtrett@12-220-134-83.client.insightBB.com) has left ##slackware Jan 13 21:18:18 feross, cool :) Jan 13 21:18:32 i have an 152mhz with 2gb hdd :/... Jan 13 21:18:40 i wanted to try x on that Jan 13 21:18:45 iptables -A smurfs -s 192.168.0.255 -j ULOG --ulog-prefix Shorewall:smurfs:DROP: Jan 13 21:18:45 iptables: No chain/target/match by that name Jan 13 21:18:57 but i'm comfortable with just a terminal (trustix secure linux) :) Jan 13 21:18:59 --> Destructo (~destructo@pool-68-161-113-196.ny325.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:19:05 thr1ce: cool as hell Jan 13 21:19:09 any ideas Jan 13 21:19:23 k back :) Jan 13 21:19:37 you like it? Jan 13 21:19:45 hell yea i like it Jan 13 21:19:56 nullvalue, I gotta have some eye candy on workstations, servers ok but workstation has to at least do snake, xchat, firefox Jan 13 21:20:20 ah, i'm using the 152mhz as a server :) Jan 13 21:20:28 doh! Jan 13 21:20:56 when i get mine the way i like it i will show ya Jan 13 21:21:02 pretty lame as of now Jan 13 21:21:07 sounds good :) Jan 13 21:21:12 all right, time to head to class Jan 13 21:21:15 take it easy Jan 13 21:21:16 i telnet to irc Jan 13 21:21:25 see ya Jan 13 21:21:32 take care Jan 13 21:22:32 whats wrong with this.. ..-> mount -o loop -t msdos file.bin /dir Jan 13 21:22:58 Is there any command in slack there you can see what "resulution" you using on the monitor? Jan 13 21:23:02 iptables -A smurfs -s 192.168.0.255 -j ULOG --ulog-prefix Shorewall:smurfs:DROP: Jan 13 21:23:09 to anyoen who uses shorewall Jan 13 21:23:30 --> debd00d (~bacardi@c-24-19-219-0.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:24:08 `-+ Jan 13 21:24:27 hey those sceenshots look spiffy. didn't know fluxbox could do transparancy that well Jan 13 21:24:40 eh.. fake transparency Jan 13 21:24:54 --> boow (~boow@dyn15-ter1-pittsburg.fament.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:24:54 * Dominian wants true transparency Jan 13 21:25:04 <-- Zarco has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041221]") Jan 13 21:25:25 oh, larry_lumbo Jan 13 21:25:30 yes Jan 13 21:25:30 here is my old one: http://www.slackwaregallery.com/displayimage.php?album=4&pos=18#body Jan 13 21:25:51 Dominian, you mean like when you put a tile in front of another to be able to see the rear one through the front? Jan 13 21:25:56 where are the docs for ip masquerading on slack? :/ Jan 13 21:26:06 feross: yep Jan 13 21:26:45 ahh, no gui that I've seen does that except OSX. Jan 13 21:26:53 does anyone have bittorrent can't get gui to work with wxpython Jan 13 21:27:16 i use shareaza for torrents :) Jan 13 21:27:21 feross: Xorg is supposedly working on true transparency Jan 13 21:27:22 larry_lumbo: you like that one? Jan 13 21:27:25 --> eelriverlt (~murph@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:27:26 boow of course. you have 2 choices. Jan 13 21:27:31 <-- Epidemical has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 21:27:31 thr1ce: yea i do Jan 13 21:27:36 is 17 yours also Jan 13 21:27:37 but you need to install shareaza with wine Jan 13 21:27:42 aezeruz is nice for bittorrent Jan 13 21:27:49 dont use shareazza Jan 13 21:27:50 <-- unixfool has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 21:27:51 um...dunno, i have a few on there Jan 13 21:28:01 larry_lumbo: sign up for that site (free) and upload when you're done! Jan 13 21:28:08 i am gonna Jan 13 21:28:11 <-- ZapBrannigan (~ZapBranni@pool-68-161-113-196.ny325.east.verizon.net) has left ##slackware ("Daddy Drinks Because You Cry Alot ..") Jan 13 21:28:14 why no shareaza? Jan 13 21:28:25 --> terra1 (~terra1@pD95D0AFE.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:28:33 aaaaaaa Jan 13 21:28:39 i need a shorewall user Jan 13 21:28:40 hi Jan 13 21:28:47 that now hsi way around it a bit Jan 13 21:28:53 XandriX you need an iptables tutorial :-) Jan 13 21:28:55 i have azureus but wanted to know if anyone else had the wxpython problem Jan 13 21:29:05 Zalamander, i will not sue iptables Jan 13 21:29:16 *use Jan 13 21:29:19 XandriX that's what shorewall is using. Jan 13 21:29:23 <-- terra1 (~terra1@pD95D0AFE.dip.t-dialin.net) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 13 21:29:24 i need a shorewall user Jan 13 21:29:30 i no and i dont friging care Jan 13 21:29:34 ok...see ya later Jan 13 21:29:40 boow nah i use bittorent src.. then i added wxpython to make it a gui Jan 13 21:29:42 see ya Jan 13 21:29:49 --> kosmonaft (~kosmonaft@c-67-165-134-137.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:29:50 you didint even understant the point of my question Zalamander Jan 13 21:29:58 --> sami_ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:30:00 * XandriX slaps Zalamander wiht a trout Jan 13 21:30:13 Does anybody use subversion here? Jan 13 21:30:15 XandriX indeed I did (and do) understand exactly what the error means. Jan 13 21:30:17 boow you can also use qtorrent which is cool it has multiple files Jan 13 21:30:20 kosmonaft I do Jan 13 21:30:53 i guess ill stick with azureus Jan 13 21:31:03 why /> Jan 13 21:31:12 Zalamander, I installed it using a package i got from linuxpackages.com. Where is the repos by default? Jan 13 21:31:15 all i want is a person who nows his way around shorewall Jan 13 21:31:42 Validating rules file... Jan 13 21:31:43 Error: No policy defined from zone fw to zone net Jan 13 21:31:51 boow http://thegraveyard.org/qtorrent.php Jan 13 21:32:03 --> Epidemical (~mmelin@c-3c3be253.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:32:18 kosmonaft there isn't one by default. You'd either run the repository as a web share through apache, or create a local one for your own use using the "svnadmin create" command Jan 13 21:33:14 Someone know about a plugin to firefox that checks your spelling? Jan 13 21:34:05 Zalamander, got ya Jan 13 21:34:15 kriss check mozdev Jan 13 21:34:19 all the ip masq documents are out of date... where can i get instructions for setting one up on slack 10? :S Jan 13 21:34:44 Destructo, I have, do you have a name for me? Jan 13 21:34:46 hmmm anyone here use nicotine Jan 13 21:34:58 no just beer Jan 13 21:35:10 nullvalue http://netfilter.org has documentation for iptables and NAT, including a quick-start chapter for MASQ Jan 13 21:35:29 --> AcIdR3IgN (~someone@63-204.245.81.adsl.skynet.be) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:35:30 Kriss, I have that, hold a sec while I look Jan 13 21:35:56 kriss its called spellbound Jan 13 21:35:59 spellbound is the name Jan 13 21:36:01 <-- ezrafree has quit ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") Jan 13 21:36:05 :) Jan 13 21:36:24 i read the docs from there already :/ Jan 13 21:36:32 :/ lost by a millisec Jan 13 21:36:41 nullvalue well they certainly aren't out of date Jan 13 21:36:45 spellbound.sourceforge.net Jan 13 21:36:54 so does slack support masq out of the box? Jan 13 21:36:55 --> rjr (~rob@tx-67-76-51-152.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:37:08 nullvalue no Jan 13 21:37:19 :( Jan 13 21:37:28 i need to compile the kernel? :( Jan 13 21:37:31 hey all... me being the stupid douche that I am, did not compile ntfs support into my kernel...well, at the time I didnt think I would need it, but... I need to mount an ntfs hdd, but seeing i have no ntfs support I was thinking of a kernel module, but I have no clue where to find a trustworthy module. Can anyone point me in the right direction?? Or if you have any better ideas than a kernel module...? Jan 13 21:38:16 recompile Jan 13 21:38:19 nullvalue no, you don't need to compile anything, just configure iptables: http://netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//NAT-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.1 Jan 13 21:38:36 ok... someone told me to read chapter 5 :P Jan 13 21:38:40 boow: is that the only option? ;) Jan 13 21:38:51 thanks :) Jan 13 21:39:00 i guess Jan 13 21:39:06 --> bghfhfg (~debian@alb-24-194-1-64.nycap.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:39:12 nullvalue chapter 5 is good too :-) That URL is the "quick start" guide to masq Jan 13 21:39:27 Acl Jan 13 21:39:35 will xine play DVD's? Jan 13 21:39:36 :/ Jan 13 21:39:41 AcidChild, yes Jan 13 21:39:43 yep Jan 13 21:39:45 \o/ Jan 13 21:39:45 When I boot using the Adaptec boot disk, I use the parameter aha152x=0x340,11, yet it still tries to use IRQ 12. Why? Jan 13 21:40:12 AcIdR3IgN "modules" are also built from the kernel source. You can actually build just a single module from the source tree, and install it. It's a little tricky Jan 13 21:40:15 you can boot up a knoppix disk and read the ntfs data to your linux partitions Jan 13 21:40:18 some people prefer mplayer for unknown reasons :/ Jan 13 21:40:27 you might need libdvdcss Jan 13 21:40:29 ah Jan 13 21:40:36 its trying to open /mnt/dvd Jan 13 21:40:40 i donno why Jan 13 21:40:47 AcidChild my xine plays dvds from a drive on another computer even :-) Jan 13 21:41:00 nice :) Jan 13 21:41:04 not set my one up yet Jan 13 21:41:10 xine looks bangin cool :) Jan 13 21:41:21 my favorite part: it comes with Slackware Jan 13 21:41:25 ya :) Jan 13 21:41:31 Zalamander: thanks... but i guess i should just recompile.. might save me the hassle.. :D know what, instead of wasting my time whining in here about it, I couldve nearly already have compiled it ;) Jan 13 21:41:42 you need to make a symlink to your dvd as /dev/dvd Jan 13 21:41:45 make sure /dev/dvd is symlinked to your dvd drive Jan 13 21:41:47 for xine Jan 13 21:41:56 AcIdR3IgN heh, yep. Just change the one option, and set it rolling again. Jan 13 21:42:12 will it play DVD sttt8 oooufhebx? Jan 13 21:42:18 aaakkk Jan 13 21:42:22 lagging up pc Jan 13 21:42:42 AcIdR3IgN-> try this http://freshmeat.net/projects/captive/ Jan 13 21:42:43 will it play DVD's srt8 out of the box? Jan 13 21:42:45 AcidChild I'm pre33iky alwkkkk987 yy8 Jan 13 21:42:52 rofl. Jan 13 21:43:09 AcidChild, it should... after you make the symlinks Jan 13 21:43:12 AcidChild for most "normal" commercial DVDs, you will need to install libdvdcss to get them to work Jan 13 21:43:14 yes but make sure your dvd drive has the symlink to /dev/dvd Jan 13 21:43:18 that was funny.... looked like you went into ceisure or something Jan 13 21:43:33 yeah, you need to make sure you've got all the libs Jan 13 21:43:45 so how do i play a DVd then? Jan 13 21:43:50 i have it in the drive Jan 13 21:43:52 and its mounted. Jan 13 21:43:59 ...yes its a DVd drive Jan 13 21:44:00 AcidChild don't mount Jan 13 21:44:07 ok Jan 13 21:44:15 ln -s /mnt/dvd /dev/dvd Jan 13 21:44:29 its on /mnt/cdrom Jan 13 21:44:33 =/ :) Jan 13 21:44:36 AcidChild 1. configure xine to play /dev/dvd and 2. make a symlink from /dev/dvd to /dev/hdd (or whatever your dvd drive is) Jan 13 21:44:45 no no not /mnt Jan 13 21:44:52 k. Jan 13 21:45:00 ln -s /dev/hdd /dev/dvd <--something like that Jan 13 21:45:08 good evening Jan 13 21:45:09 yours might be /dev/hdc Jan 13 21:45:18 ln -s /dev/hdd /dev/dvd Jan 13 21:45:24 /dev/hdc on /mnt/cdrom type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev) Jan 13 21:45:26 atm Jan 13 21:45:31 thanx ximpul... but doesnt seem to be what i need... + you need wine and all that junk for it... (i don't have x, and don't have wine -> the ntfs disk is on my server) thanks anwayz Jan 13 21:45:42 <-- sami___ has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 13 21:45:45 woah? Jan 13 21:45:58 AcIdR3IgN-> ok Jan 13 21:46:03 right. Jan 13 21:46:03 <-- bghfhfg has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 21:46:06 AcidChild ok, so umount it ("umount /dev/hdc") and run "ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd" Jan 13 21:46:33 AcidChild, sometimes there are problems when you try to play dvd's as a user... if you still have probs. login as root and run xine Jan 13 21:46:46 no Jan 13 21:46:50 AcIdR3IgN-> theres a bunch of stuff on freshmeat, that you might want to take a look at, maybe even knoppix into it but recompining in ntfs would be the best imo Jan 13 21:46:51 hey can someone goto #flood so i can paste an error Jan 13 21:46:59 change the permissions on /dev/hdc instead of running xine as root Jan 13 21:47:09 very true tewmten :) Jan 13 21:47:09 yeah, that's what i did eventually Jan 13 21:47:12 Destructo what kind of error? Jan 13 21:47:39 nicotine error.. but its not locating a file i installed Jan 13 21:47:43 just put user in your fstab as an option Jan 13 21:47:50 <-- palerma has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 13 21:48:01 oh man... :'( Jan 13 21:48:10 my mum put my cloths at the bottom of my stairs Jan 13 21:48:12 and i tryed Jan 13 21:48:12 Destructo looks like you have to install pygtk Jan 13 21:48:22 and i have a dint in my leg =/ Jan 13 21:48:26 like a proper Dint Jan 13 21:48:35 Zalamander its installed Jan 13 21:48:40 AcidChild, i don't think i could possibly care less Jan 13 21:48:43 honestly Jan 13 21:48:46 Destructo reinstalled since upgrading to python 2.4? Jan 13 21:48:47 aw :( Jan 13 21:48:47 it's not possible Jan 13 21:48:53 yes Jan 13 21:48:55 --> inflex (~PLD@dsl-171.156.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:49:13 <-- Squall` has quit ("see ya'll in an hour") Jan 13 21:49:20 --> Resonance (~none@DIALUP-147-137.TNKNO2.USIT.NET) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:49:28 <-- sami_ has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 13 21:49:28 AcidChild, dint? Jan 13 21:49:36 limp? Jan 13 21:49:38 no Jan 13 21:49:42 --> felipe (~felipe@200.21.71.61) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:49:46 like a indent in my leg Jan 13 21:49:51 anyway.. Jan 13 21:49:53 i will live. Jan 13 21:49:54 Destructo odd. You might check the permissions on /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pygtk (and it's contents) Jan 13 21:50:06 ok Jan 13 21:50:07 its Jan 13 21:50:41 <-- rjr has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.3/20040919]") Jan 13 21:50:52 AcidChild: no no, you should say it with more of a Invader Zim attitude, like "I will LIVE!! Stinking earth beeings, you cannot stop me, for I AM ZIM!! HAHAHAHAAH!!!" Jan 13 21:51:12 anyways, I'm gonna go make tea now Jan 13 21:51:30 --> Epidemic1l (~mmelin@c-3c3be253.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:51:31 tewmten a nice Ceylon for me, thank you Jan 13 21:51:40 <-- XandriX has quit ("chow") Jan 13 21:51:51 I see what I can find :] Jan 13 21:51:58 --> KaioRafael (~kaio@200.222.15.249) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:52:08 * feross requests camemile with a hint of mint Jan 13 21:52:19 ;) Jan 13 21:52:25 <-- slk has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 21:52:25 it says "there is no input plugin available to handle 'dvd:/' maybee mrl syntax is wrong or file/stream source doesnt exist" Jan 13 21:52:29 =/ Jan 13 21:52:39 i sent it to go to /dev/cdrom Jan 13 21:52:40 <-- systemx_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 21:52:40 <-- KaioRafael has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 21:52:44 and i ran it as root. Jan 13 21:52:47 you need libdvdcss Jan 13 21:52:53 ah :) Jan 13 21:53:24 you can get it at www.linuxpackages.net Jan 13 21:53:26 is that somthing just for xine or for all? Jan 13 21:53:35 AcidChild for all Jan 13 21:53:39 ah :) Jan 13 21:53:51 for all Jan 13 21:54:01 --> ryen (~ryen@83.72.184.157.ip.tele2adsl.dk) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:54:49 thx very much :) Jan 13 21:54:53 <3 DVD's Jan 13 21:54:57 and xine looks good :) Jan 13 21:55:11 mplayer ownz Jan 13 21:55:18 mplayer rox Jan 13 21:55:22 --> bobert (~steve@ppp-66-143-155-96.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:55:35 i have xine mplayer an totum Jan 13 21:56:26 boow did you see the link i posted for an alternative torrent client with gui Jan 13 21:56:38 sure Jan 13 21:56:58 --> XandriX (~slack@dsl-147-129.aei.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:57:30 too bad suprnova's gone Jan 13 21:57:33 * XandriX needs a person who knwos his way around shorewall Jan 13 21:57:36 indeed Jan 13 21:57:44 its a shame Jan 13 21:58:35 --> Polleke (polleke@polleke.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:58:49 boow theres also pisexy.org Jan 13 21:59:25 and torrentreactor Jan 13 21:59:30 .net Jan 13 21:59:37 --> IronBob (~ironbob@adsl-208-191-166-220.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 21:59:42 thank for the links Jan 13 22:01:09 anyone here use shorewall Jan 13 22:01:28 my dvd is very low quility Jan 13 22:01:34 how do i fix that? Jan 13 22:01:36 what the hell, is hotmail down? Jan 13 22:01:38 <-- Epidemical has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 13 22:01:45 raela: HOTMAIL???????? Jan 13 22:01:53 MS Hotmail??? Jan 13 22:01:56 AcidChild: yes, hotmail Jan 13 22:02:01 i could not careless Jan 13 22:02:06 raela: its been down for a bit now. Jan 13 22:02:08 :) Jan 13 22:02:13 what kind of video card do you have Jan 13 22:02:15 care less, not careless Jan 13 22:02:18 nvidia Jan 13 22:02:22 yep its down Jan 13 22:02:24 raela: use gmail Jan 13 22:02:29 the one time I want to check my email.. Jan 13 22:02:38 do you have the nvidia driver installed Jan 13 22:02:38 raela: use the Telnet.... Jan 13 22:02:43 yes, joing the gmail cult Jan 13 22:02:44 boow: nope. Jan 13 22:02:46 Dominian: I have a gmail addy, just I've had this one for awhile so it's what everyone knows Jan 13 22:02:50 -join us- ! Jan 13 22:02:54 is that wat it will be? Jan 13 22:03:01 raela: tell them to updat etheir address books or forever lose your presence hehe Jan 13 22:03:05 oh yeah, anyone want gmail account. have a couple of invites Jan 13 22:03:16 im already a part of gmail cult then lol Jan 13 22:03:17 feross: I think everyone has a few invites that comes in ##slackware lol Jan 13 22:03:24 hehe Jan 13 22:03:27 I have 6 Jan 13 22:03:27 yeah i do too so if your baby daddy wants an invite let me know Jan 13 22:03:33 I think I have 6 too Jan 13 22:03:42 * StevenR has no gmail invites Jan 13 22:03:42 it will speed up video acceleration Jan 13 22:03:46 I have 6 too Jan 13 22:03:48 argh, why am I so lagged Jan 13 22:03:49 i do :) Jan 13 22:03:50 20 Jan 13 22:04:02 shit Jan 13 22:04:05 anyone else give out gmail invites for christmas? Jan 13 22:04:07 that invite thing has got to go. What's the deal just open it up Jan 13 22:04:07 how does gmail speed up video acceleration ? Jan 13 22:04:09 how did you get 20 invites Jan 13 22:04:15 feross: still in beta Jan 13 22:04:27 --> sami__ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 22:04:28 haha futrama rules!! Jan 13 22:04:29 XandriX: they accumulate over time Jan 13 22:04:33 thats wat i am watching. Jan 13 22:04:35 aaaaaaaaa Jan 13 22:04:35 XandriX: I had 20 at one point Jan 13 22:04:41 heh, all you have to do to get an account is go into an irc room Jan 13 22:04:53 um Dominian u use shorewall or rc.firewall Jan 13 22:04:53 raela: yep Jan 13 22:05:04 XandriX: I use the built in iptables Jan 13 22:05:11 yeah ok Jan 13 22:05:11 --> maddler (~maddler@195.110.158.19) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 22:05:14 I don't have an rc.firewall I dont believe Jan 13 22:05:19 i need a godo shorewall user Jan 13 22:05:29 *good Jan 13 22:05:34 XandriX, what's the problem with shorewall? I keep seeing complaints but I don't think I've seen the actual problem... Jan 13 22:05:35 I've had my hotmail email for around 4 years, don't feel like changing it Jan 13 22:05:43 <-- button has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 22:06:01 raela, then do email forwarding Jan 13 22:06:02 :) Jan 13 22:06:04 o feross ill paste the erroe line in a sec Jan 13 22:06:15 hotmail was good until they started charging Jan 13 22:06:28 <-- felipe (~felipe@200.21.71.61) has left ##slackware Jan 13 22:06:30 I think I get free upgrades Jan 13 22:06:51 feross iptables -A smurfs -s 192.168.0.255 -j ULOG --ulog-prefix Shorewall:smurfs:DROP: Jan 13 22:06:51 iptables: No chain/target/match by that name Jan 13 22:06:55 i use yahoo mail for all my spam Jan 13 22:06:56 I got one (for paying customers) because we had msn briefly and I used my hotmail addy as an account Jan 13 22:06:58 raela, still can't get pop from them right? that's what got me off of hotmail. dislike the webinterface Jan 13 22:07:27 <-- kosmonaft has quit ("...") Jan 13 22:07:30 feross: I don't check my email using any programs, never liked it ;/ Jan 13 22:07:32 feross did you read Jan 13 22:07:36 feross iptables -A smurfs -s 192.168.0.255 -j ULOG --ulog-prefix Shorewall:smurfs:DROP: Jan 13 22:07:40 iptables: No chain/target/match by that name Jan 13 22:07:56 XandriX, yes read it Jan 13 22:08:16 any ideas Jan 13 22:08:20 <-- boow has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 22:08:45 its sorta tickign me off Jan 13 22:09:22 <-- Frost^ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 22:09:29 --> sinope (1000@bur-jud-175-061.rh.uchicago.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 22:09:54 <-- taortan has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 22:10:03 nope never used iptables, have a PIX for that. what is that line anyway a log entry? what is it preventing you from doing? Doesn't shorewall have a gui to make sure things like that don't happen? Jan 13 22:10:29 nope Jan 13 22:10:33 no gui for shorewall Jan 13 22:10:38 um whats pix Jan 13 22:10:48 Cisco PIX firewall Jan 13 22:11:01 aaaaaa Jan 13 22:11:03 a cisco Jan 13 22:11:32 well i meen its just to protect my pc im not gonna oay for a cisco jsut fro that Jan 13 22:11:40 * ximpul uses guarddog for iptables configuration Jan 13 22:11:46 i need to get soe cisco hardware Jan 13 22:11:48 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 22:11:58 just to make use of the cisco icons on dia ;) Jan 13 22:12:19 good reason Jan 13 22:13:03 * XandriX thanks ximpul Jan 13 22:13:22 hey Jan 13 22:13:23 heh Jan 13 22:13:29 --> sugar (~sugar@c-24-17-164-73.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 22:14:09 yummy sugar Jan 13 22:14:11 --> Vayn0r (~Vayn0r@CPE0050047e7f32-CM0f2049994695.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 22:14:28 thx ximpul Jan 13 22:14:42 um Jan 13 22:14:55 xipul guarddog is a gui to rc.firewall ??? Jan 13 22:16:55 um Jan 13 22:16:57 bye brothers Jan 13 22:17:05 whats the comamnd i issue for guarddog to start ??? Jan 13 22:17:24 I'm going to sleep Jan 13 22:17:25 nvm Jan 13 22:17:29 XandriX: yes Jan 13 22:17:31 good night Jan 13 22:17:37 i dont like guarddog Jan 13 22:17:46 XandriX: its guarddog to start it Jan 13 22:17:49 duurrhh :P Jan 13 22:17:54 <-- ondebian (~compunix@200.101.124.204) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 13 22:18:22 ?????? Jan 13 22:18:24 wtf Jan 13 22:18:36 guarddog wotn start in su command does nto exist Jan 13 22:18:37 xipul guarddog is a gui to rc.firewall ??? Jan 13 22:18:38 21:15 < XandriX> um Jan 13 22:18:40 o crap Jan 13 22:18:57 :) Jan 13 22:18:58 aaaaaaaaaa Jan 13 22:18:59 rofl. Jan 13 22:19:06 wtf why wont it start in su Jan 13 22:19:16 AcidChild-> yea Jan 13 22:19:17 i donno Jan 13 22:19:26 do "whereis guarddog" Jan 13 22:19:31 Anyone here use Cedega + Steam? Jan 13 22:19:44 /opt/kde/bin/guarddog Jan 13 22:19:48 ya Jan 13 22:19:51 just run it Jan 13 22:19:53 :) Jan 13 22:20:04 heh Jan 13 22:20:15 straterra, what is Steam??? for CS??? Jan 13 22:20:21 Analyzer, yes Jan 13 22:20:45 mmm HL2 Jan 13 22:21:15 <-- djspark (~djspark@cable-59-63.sssnet.com) has left ##slackware Jan 13 22:21:24 I installed Cedega and Steam from inside of Cedega, but I can see no text and it says I should install the Mozilla text crap package, so I did..nothing changed Jan 13 22:21:52 <-- XandriX has quit ("chow") Jan 13 22:22:03 is version without Steam? Jan 13 22:22:09 What? Jan 13 22:22:25 <_erik> you installed cedega inside cedega? Jan 13 22:22:39 No Jan 13 22:22:49 I installed cedega, then installed Steam inside of Cedega Jan 13 22:22:53 <-- Dominian has quit ("I AM a geek! What's your excuse?") Jan 13 22:22:58 <-- elius has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 22:23:07 --> elius (~elius@CBL217-132-69-41.bb.netvision.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 22:23:10 --> clingen (~clingen@pool-141-157-9-192.balt.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 22:23:16 straterra, i know that version without steam is. Jan 13 22:23:22 where is timezone data stored other than /etc/timezone ? Jan 13 22:23:49 Analyzer, its the latest release of Cedega Jan 13 22:24:17 <-- sinope has quit ("leaving") Jan 13 22:24:26 --> sinope (1000@bur-jud-175-061.rh.uchicago.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 22:24:35 straterra, version of CS Jan 13 22:24:38 can someone tell me the contents of their /etc/timezone ?? Jan 13 22:24:41 i think mine might be messed up Jan 13 22:24:43 Analyzer, Its not CS Jan 13 22:24:45 Ot Jan 13 22:24:53 It's steam, I can't see any text inside of steam Jan 13 22:25:02 All buttons are textless.. Jan 13 22:25:10 anyone ? :( Jan 13 22:25:57 sinope, one moment. Jan 13 22:26:09 :) Jan 13 22:26:10 ty Jan 13 22:26:29 sinope, if I had one I would post Jan 13 22:26:41 Asia/Vladivostok Jan 13 22:26:51 hmm. mine is formatted right then... Jan 13 22:26:55 America/Chicago Jan 13 22:27:13 qemu not working. it says that there is a disk error. any ideas Jan 13 22:27:14 ? Jan 13 22:27:32 here's the problem.... my system time is correct. but for some re4ason if i do i get the wrong timezone. Jan 13 22:27:35 sinope, what is problem? Jan 13 22:27:39 i don't even have that file Jan 13 22:27:42 i recently moved between timezones and it's showing the old one. Jan 13 22:27:53 i can't imagine why since i fixed the system time Jan 13 22:28:03 <-- chrismo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 22:28:07 sinope, did timeconfig right Jan 13 22:28:13 feross: yes Jan 13 22:28:45 and when you cat /etc/timezone its the correct one? Jan 13 22:28:54 yes Jan 13 22:29:16 ~$ date -R Jan 13 22:29:16 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:27:55 -0600 Jan 13 22:29:23 but the php output is: Jan 13 22:29:40 Thu Jan 13 4:28:17 PM EST 2005 Jan 13 22:29:56 er... they're formatted different but you get the idea Jan 13 22:30:16 and i tried restartinga apache already Jan 13 22:30:22 this page may help http://us4.php.net/date Jan 13 22:30:32 --> Epidemical (~mmelin@c-3c3be253.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 22:32:19 --> UdontKnow (udontknow@udontknow.staff.freenode) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 22:33:35 --> thenuke (~thenuke@a84-230-6-130.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 22:33:46 --> crackjack (1000@ip5452b530.speed.planet.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 22:34:18 <-- AcidChild has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 13 22:35:21 ximpul: one of the comments on that page had a fix :) thanks man Jan 13 22:35:28 putenv('TZ=America/Chicago'); Jan 13 22:35:33 ^^ in case you're curious Jan 13 22:36:08 thanks again Jan 13 22:36:09 <-- sinope has quit ("leaving") Jan 13 22:37:11 --- mako-sam1 is now known as mako-sama Jan 13 22:37:25 --> cap (~cap@h246-63-238-213.mesh.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 22:38:15 --> ajb (~user@arva.serial.fb.staffnet.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 22:40:05 --> rada (~rada@r3x178.chello.upc.cz) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 22:40:09 evening Jan 13 22:40:14 cool Jan 13 22:40:32 can I get EXACT messages from booting time? Jan 13 22:40:52 rada-> how EXACT do you want to get? Jan 13 22:41:08 rada-> tried dmesg? Jan 13 22:41:11 dmesg ? Jan 13 22:41:35 that was an answer ;/.. kinda Jan 13 22:41:46 dmesg doesn't give what I want. Exact = all Jan 13 22:42:06 i think that's the most you can get Jan 13 22:42:10 I was watching the screen and I am missing some 'warnings' if I run dmesg Jan 13 22:42:32 rada-> what do you want exactly? Jan 13 22:42:33 you can check /var/log/syslog but i think it'll be the same as dmesg Jan 13 22:42:53 there is a /var/log/dmesg , but I think its the same Jan 13 22:43:00 if there is a warning, then check syslog Jan 13 22:43:40 ximpul as I said I was watching the screen during boot time. there was something I didn't pick up. so can I get it somewhere and find out if it was relevant? Jan 13 22:43:50 heh Jan 13 22:44:03 --> tvv (~tvv@193.23.122.22) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 22:44:20 rada-> try dmesg | grep and it will output the warning Jan 13 22:44:36 rada-> if you are just looking for warnings Jan 13 22:44:39 --- nikon is now known as LadyNikon Jan 13 22:44:44 rada-> you might type Jan 13 22:44:50 <-- Epidemic1l has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 13 22:44:57 rada-> dmesg | grep warning Jan 13 22:45:27 grep will filter out the term so you can read it ;) Jan 13 22:45:34 ximpul there was something if NIC driver was loaded. but nothing in dmesg nor syslog like that Jan 13 22:45:43 <-- ajb has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 22:45:53 rada-> grepped for 'module' ? Jan 13 22:45:57 I like dmesg |more better Jan 13 22:46:03 :-p Jan 13 22:46:10 it is NOT there Jan 13 22:46:18 rada-> if you like more you will like less even better ;) Jan 13 22:46:28 hmm Jan 13 22:47:01 <-- j0k3r has quit ("cd ~") Jan 13 22:47:08 ximpul I think so Jan 13 22:47:55 rada-> are you having issues with the NIC ? Jan 13 22:48:36 no :-) but I wanted to know what the message was about Jan 13 22:49:17 rada-> you may be able to recreate it if you run the rc.inet scripts that are ran at boot time Jan 13 22:50:18 good idea. wouldn't it matter if the NIC's are alreadu up? Jan 13 22:51:04 rada-> yes, you will have to take it down temporarily Jan 13 22:51:24 <-- tvv (~tvv@193.23.122.22) has left ##slackware ("Покидаю") Jan 13 22:51:37 can you tell where are modules for NIC on installation CD? Jan 13 22:52:20 <-- Polleke has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 22:52:24 <-- SgtTux has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 22:52:53 --> SgtTux (~SgtTux@24-119-228-38.cpe.cableone.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 22:52:55 I got 3 NIC's in my box. I boot up from install cd #1. run network let it search for proper modules and it found out only one :-( Jan 13 22:53:21 --- Gartt_ is now known as Gartt Jan 13 22:53:58 <-- nullvalue has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 22:54:35 --> adjacent_ (~scott@63.209.153.130) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 22:54:53 <-- three_11 has quit ("Get away from me biatch") Jan 13 22:55:09 i dont know where they are on a boot cd, but on a system they are at /usr/src/linuxXXX Jan 13 22:55:28 where XXX is your version Jan 13 22:56:09 already compiled? Jan 13 22:56:18 ready to load? Jan 13 22:57:08 <-- feross has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 22:57:12 <-- HW_Asleep has quit (Client Quit) Jan 13 22:57:44 rada-> for the default slackware kernel yea Jan 13 22:58:08 rada-> you have to do a make_modules if you are compiling your own Jan 13 22:58:21 <-- zomtec has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 22:58:52 bash question--> $1 and $2 are great to refer to 1st and 2nd args but what if you have a VARIABLE number of args? How capture all of them in a for loop without knowing the count? Jan 13 23:00:00 ximpul thank you Jan 13 23:01:26 seberino I think it's possible somehow I forgot how though :-( Jan 13 23:01:30 <-- mo699898 has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 23:02:00 man bash? Jan 13 23:02:31 --> seemawn (~zomtec@p508102F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:02:37 seberino: $# = number of args Jan 13 23:03:13 no problem rada Jan 13 23:04:37 SiegeX1 :-) I knew.. years ago Jan 13 23:06:22 <-- duardo has quit (No route to host) Jan 13 23:07:46 <-- NeoLaptop has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 23:07:57 --- rh0` is now known as rh0`away Jan 13 23:07:57 --- nixor sets ban on *away!*@* Jan 13 23:07:58 <-- nixor has kicked rh0`away from ##slackware (banned: Please disable all broadcasting away messages. Do not put away messages within your nick: nick-away, nick-zzz, nick-afk, nick-goingtothestore. Some regular visitors put "-work" after their nicks, as they IRC from their jobs, which is fine.) Jan 13 23:08:36 <-- Destructo has quit ("Daddy Drinks Because You Cry Alot !") Jan 13 23:09:45 what bad about puttin away whithin my nick? Jan 13 23:10:11 <-- IronBob has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 23:10:48 indeed... Jan 13 23:10:54 <-- aedigital has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 13 23:10:58 hmm abiword won't open my 22mb word file, just freezes Jan 13 23:11:15 http://slackcon.org/rules Jan 13 23:11:26 <-- adjacent has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 13 23:11:32 Anything "better" than abiword that anyone's used? Jan 13 23:11:50 OOo? Jan 13 23:12:00 meh? Jan 13 23:12:05 OpenOffice.org Jan 13 23:12:07 Open Office Jan 13 23:12:19 You prefer that to abiword? Jan 13 23:12:33 Well yeah Jan 13 23:12:34 never used, but ooo is very nice Jan 13 23:12:35 seberino: for example Jan 13 23:12:36 [seand@maximus]$ my_function(){ echo $#; }; my_function one two three Jan 13 23:12:36 3 Jan 13 23:12:38 all i need Jan 13 23:13:04 Alright, I'll give it a shot, thanks Jan 13 23:15:22 <-- Pa^2 has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 23:15:29 <-- ximpul has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 23:15:49 <-- Xgates has quit ("Ping Timeout ( 0 Seconds )") Jan 13 23:16:17 anyone can tell me why GNOME work so slow??? Jan 13 23:16:31 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:16:38 --> Xgates (~Xgates@xgates.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:16:47 <-- qmasterrr has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 23:16:55 why on Linux-XP it work very fast, but on Slackware so slowly??? Jan 13 23:17:19 * ximpul chuckles @ linux-XP Jan 13 23:17:26 linux-xp ? Jan 13 23:17:51 --> Epidemical2 (~mmelin@c-3c3be253.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:18:32 --> qmasterrr (1000@pD9E66754.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:18:54 --> whiny (whiny@whiny.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:18:57 Kidding? On every comp I've put slack on, it outperformed windows Jan 13 23:19:05 smps, yes and on others distributions... Jan 13 23:19:09 what's the difference between a dev/hd* and a dev/dsk* ? Jan 13 23:19:10 Analyzer ananke Jan 13 23:19:17 Analyzer, what the HELL is Linux-XP ? Jan 13 23:19:22 and gnome should load faster than windows, at least itdid for me Jan 13 23:19:37 for me slackware is faster 5x Jan 13 23:19:40 Looks like it's a Russian distro based on Fedora Jan 13 23:19:40 than win Jan 13 23:19:58 hehe smps, well... you always wanted that start button integrated into slackware... Jan 13 23:20:02 :P Jan 13 23:20:06 I'm waiting for Linux Millenium Edition... Jan 13 23:20:10 hello ? Jan 13 23:20:12 hehe epi Jan 13 23:20:21 :) Jan 13 23:20:34 It actually says "Linux XP Professional Edition" on the distrowatch page for it. Jan 13 23:20:56 never heard Jan 13 23:21:07 <-- HeatHawk has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 23:21:08 * inflex wonders when we're going to fix/resolve the unix-timestamp rollover issue Jan 13 23:21:21 Gartt, what is Kidding?? Jan 13 23:21:47 Analyzer, kidding = can't be serious Jan 13 23:21:50 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 23:21:56 joking Jan 13 23:22:25 KDE outperformed than GNOME Jan 13 23:22:25 why??? Jan 13 23:22:38 why on other distributions GNOME work faster then on Slackware? Jan 13 23:23:51 just run fluxbox, there's fast right there :P Jan 13 23:23:54 --> IronBob (~ironbob@adsl-208-191-166-220.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:24:04 is there /dev/dsk on linux ? Jan 13 23:25:06 .. Bloody hell how long will it take Epidemical to time out... Jan 13 23:25:14 <-- zechim has quit ("leaving") Jan 13 23:25:57 --> Dagmar_bongo (~dagmar@209.149.57.115) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:28:39 <-- war- has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 23:28:41 so... why KDE work faster than GNOME? Jan 13 23:28:56 is there /dev/dsk on linux ?? Jan 13 23:29:09 whiny: why don't you check for yourself? Jan 13 23:29:23 whiny, find out yourself , ls -al /dev/dsk* Jan 13 23:29:38 IronBob: i don't wanna boot linux just for that Jan 13 23:29:44 leastways on Slackware 10 Jan 13 23:30:39 whiny, /usr/bin/ls: /dev/dsk*: No such file or directory Jan 13 23:31:29 <-- mazzanet has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 23:31:32 Analyzer: because the Gnome that comes with Slackware is significantly older than the current state of the art Jan 13 23:31:34 Epidemical2: /cs ghost Epidemical Jan 13 23:31:35 phrag: /cs? chanserv? Jan 13 23:31:36 <-- whiny (whiny@whiny.user) has left ##slackware Jan 13 23:32:01 --> mazzanet (~mazzanet@mazzanet.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:32:07 <-- Epidemical has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 13 23:32:15 --- Epidemical2 is now known as Epidemical Jan 13 23:32:26 Analyzer, I thought Gnome would be faster than KDE Jan 13 23:32:35 thanks phrag Jan 13 23:32:40 welcome Jan 13 23:32:45 how do i enable outbound nmap scans with iptables? Jan 13 23:33:00 Oh well, I always preferred the look and feel of gnome over KDE, but I use fluxbox, and it's great Jan 13 23:33:01 The latest versions of each (Gnome/KDE) are pretty much matched for speed now Jan 13 23:33:16 ximpul: "with great care" is one answer Jan 13 23:33:36 heh Jan 13 23:33:39 ximpul: The other answer would be to look into iptables' ability to match packets against socket ownershipt Jan 13 23:33:56 crud... Jan 13 23:34:01 It's significantly easier to use that to let root do anything it wants in the way of packet tossing Jan 13 23:34:37 <-- Prefect has quit () Jan 13 23:34:51 Gartt, u mean that it's problem just on my system?? Jan 13 23:34:58 I've got a nessusd that uses that mechanism actually. It's not very hard to set up. Jan 13 23:35:14 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:35:17 Dagmar_bongo-> do tell Jan 13 23:35:57 Just check the man page for iptables or the documentation at www.netfilter.org. It's no more complex than what you use to invoke the state module for allowing packets related to existing connections back in. Seriously. Jan 13 23:36:07 <-- elijah_b has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 23:36:12 ok, thx Jan 13 23:36:31 I've dropped rules like that in on shell hosts to cripple lamers' ability to run bots Jan 13 23:36:34 <-- oneforall has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 13 23:36:36 Analyzer, gnome should be just as fast, if not faster than windows Jan 13 23:36:44 maybe kde as well Jan 13 23:37:11 Gartt-> i find xfce4 to be the fastest between them Jan 13 23:37:35 That might have something to do with xfce's comparatively limited feature set Jan 13 23:37:54 <-- solsTiCe has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 23:38:13 its like if gnome+kde had a rebellious child who said: im never going to be like you! yet it retains the qt/gtk roots Jan 13 23:38:25 package VMwareWorkstation-4.5.2-8848 is already installed Jan 13 23:38:34 where is slackware keeping his rpm logs ? Jan 13 23:38:41 Dagmar_bongo-> yeah, kde is more developed Jan 13 23:38:47 heh Jan 13 23:39:30 Well, more developed yes, but only by a small margin. The main difference is that both KDE and Gnome pay attention to a metric fsckton more things than xfce does Jan 13 23:39:38 --> MacGuyver (~amaral@200.174.116.166) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:39:41 xfce is pretty tight Jan 13 23:39:55 I'd be using it if it weren't for the fact that I have nothing that fits in that memory footprint range. Jan 13 23:40:27 I've got this poor-ass notebook (P150, 32Mb of RAM) which can barely stomach xfce, and then the next step up is a 768Mb AthlonXP Pro1800+ Jan 13 23:40:50 I'd have to bump the notebook up to about 96Mb of RAM to be happyw ith xfce on it Jan 13 23:41:07 --> elijah_b (~avenger@modemcable067.250-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:41:49 --> oneforall (guru@216.123.245.148) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:42:04 --> war- (war@oper.us) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:42:20 ...and well, spending $25 to get a 64Mb PC66 SODIMM on a notebook that woulnd't be worth $20 if you melted it down for its metals or sold it to an art student... Jan 13 23:42:23 <-- Putz has quit ("Hey, look; a grenade without a pin!") Jan 13 23:43:15 --> Caveman (~biocorp@caveman.ipv6tb.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:44:32 <-- JustinTArthur has quit ("Leaving") Jan 13 23:45:20 ...and people who shill up 3.2Ghz notebooks on eBay with a "approved bidders list" should be dragged out and shot. Jan 13 23:45:32 <-- nazgul_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 23:46:25 approved bidders? what like they have to perform oral in order to win the auction? Jan 13 23:48:09 Nah, the lamer had about a dozen high end, 3.2Ghz 1Gb RAM sony vaios up at an initial bid of $1.99 with the "approved bidders only" thing turned on Jan 13 23:48:20 Typically that's a feature only used by people selling massive dollar items like cars and stuff Jan 13 23:48:35 I email the guy and he's like "Oh no need to bid, I'll sell you one for $1500 shipping included" Jan 13 23:48:43 ximpul: enough please Jan 13 23:48:48 I sent him an email back saying "I'll give you $20." Jan 13 23:48:59 phrag-> what am i doing? Jan 13 23:50:50 ximpul: On the iptables man page, if you skip down to the section on the match target "owner" ( "/ owner" will probably go straight to it) you'll find the section you need about matching owning process uids Jan 13 23:50:58 vaios suck Jan 13 23:51:11 Dagmar_bongo-> thats what i was readin Jan 13 23:51:12 heh Jan 13 23:51:22 Digging through man pages is even slow on this machine Jan 13 23:51:22 I gotta hack cached man page support back into this beast Jan 13 23:51:42 skubee: Yeah, but would you turn one down for $2? Jan 13 23:52:01 <-- war- has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 23:52:11 im going to end up using something with --uid-owner userid yes ? Jan 13 23:52:15 --> rh0-work (~rolando@205.241.35.189) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:52:16 and the uid of root Jan 13 23:52:18 Yep Jan 13 23:52:25 <-- rada (~rada@r3x178.chello.upc.cz) has left ##slackware Jan 13 23:52:27 hmm.. is there something i'm not doing right?? Trying to recompile the kernel. I do the make menuconfig, goto filesystems and select NTFS support and such. Then save, and compile.. copy stuff into boot... reboot, blah blah... mount my ntfs drive.. and still telling me the it has no ntfs support :| Jan 13 23:52:32 --> war- (war@oper.us) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:52:46 I'd suggest coercing nessusd to using a set number of ports for connections if you can tho Jan 13 23:52:59 <-- SiegeX has quit ("changing servers") Jan 13 23:53:00 AcIdR3IgN-> sure your booting the right kernel? Jan 13 23:53:11 yes :| Jan 13 23:53:23 I mean, if you've gone that far you might as well go ahead and apply some heavy access restrictions to all outbound connections. It can firmly break several types of exploits Jan 13 23:53:24 Dagmar_bongo-> eh im only interested in nmap atm Jan 13 23:53:41 <-- blackpit_ has quit (Network is unreachable) Jan 13 23:54:00 --> SiegeX (~SiegeX@adsl-67-122-204-69.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:54:02 <-- war- has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 13 23:54:23 ximpul: for ntfs support, I only need to select that in the filesystem section right?? nothing else that is important concerning the ntfs support? Jan 13 23:54:35 --> blackpit (~blackpit@reverse.cti.gr) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:54:51 AcIdR3IgN-> iirc yea Jan 13 23:55:09 ok thx Jan 13 23:55:23 np, gl Jan 13 23:55:40 AcIdR3IgN: Just do not attempt to mount the ntfs filesystem in read-write mode. Jan 13 23:55:40 Very Bad Things will happen if you do that and write to the filesystem the wrong way Jan 13 23:56:07 and recompiling doesnt mean i need to first wipe out the 'badly' compiled kernel does it?? (i reboot back to the old kernel to recompile the new kernel) Jan 13 23:56:33 --> three_11 (~three_11@69-163-15-87.kntnny.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 13 23:56:53 Not really. So long as you do a `make mrproper` (back up your .config first!!) before you start building you should be fine Jan 13 23:57:10 ...provided the system doesn't explode while you're compiling the new kernel Jan 13 23:57:11 Dagmar_bongo: I only intend to read from it... cause today that hard disk is giving my windows machine a hard time...lol.. i plug the psu output into it, and pc wont boot, i unplug it, pc boots :| Jan 13 23:57:28 psu output? Jan 13 23:57:52 yeah well.. you know.. the cable thingy you plug into the hard disk :D... for power.. type stuff! Jan 13 23:58:25 Umm... have you tried changing the BIOS to boot from CD first and then booting a cd? Jan 13 23:58:40 You may just have a partition with a trashed boot sector marked as bootasble Jan 13 23:59:05 <-- Analyzer has quit ("good-bye for everybody...") Jan 13 23:59:18 Modern motherboards really don't seem to care if the bootable flag is set on a partition or not, but if there's one actually marked bootable, that's the one it will lunge at Jan 14 00:00:06 s/psu output/power connector/ or if you're really wanting to be technical "molex connector" Jan 14 00:00:51 Hardly anyone who hasn't read A+ docs seems to know what a molex connector is tho (probably a good thing) Jan 14 00:01:18 I'm just waiting for Molex lawyers to formally join the ranks of the Unclued Masses and start sending C&D letters out to people mentioning Molex connectors on their web sites Jan 14 00:01:45 what? molex is a tm/c/pat.pend ? Jan 14 00:01:52 well.. see thing is... I have this 400W psu, i connect 2x 30gb hard disks to it, 1x 120gb, a cd-rw and dvd-rw... now lately ive been having trouble booting, this morning it wouldnt boot at all.. so i decided to investigate (better late then never).. anyhoo.. i discovered, if i only plug in the 120gb hard disk (which has no OS on it, just data) then pc doesnt boot.. if i plug everything else in (including 120gb disk) still doesnt boot, i Jan 14 00:02:26 heh Jan 14 00:02:28 Sounds like you've got one of those cheap taiwanese "model 400W" power supplies and it's finally going south on you Jan 14 00:02:39 yes i think so :D Jan 14 00:02:41 AcIdR3IgN-> smell anything? Jan 14 00:03:08 except i think it's dutch... its from Q-tec (never really heard of em :)).. and it was a present from my girlfriend.. Jan 14 00:03:11 and no i don't smel anything Jan 14 00:03:31 AcIdR3IgN, Your not using a splitter from the PSU molex to both drives are you? Jan 14 00:03:40 --> war- (war@oper.us) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:03:49 <-- rebewt has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 14 00:03:55 Why does open office want to install to /opt/ ? what's wrong with /usr/local? Jan 14 00:04:01 heheehe Jan 14 00:04:22 --> Epidemic1l (~mmelin@c-3c3be253.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:04:24 dirty thing Jan 14 00:04:28 <-- simedw has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 00:05:00 eelriverlt: I did! Jan 14 00:05:04 but not anymore.. Jan 14 00:05:27 THe OO people come from a different crowd of unix folks who treat the filesystem installation like a hostile battle against shared object anarchists Jan 14 00:05:44 Each drive should have it's own dedicated psu line Jan 14 00:05:47 --> unixfool (~usuck@wigglit.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:06:12 --> XandriX (~slack@dsl-147-129.aei.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:06:24 the odd thing is.. (and i only noticed this on closer inspection).. is that all 'molex connectors' are kind of joined together.. so I have 2 strands of cable bunches if you can call it that, and there are like 2 molex connecters per bunch. really odd, as i've never seem them like that before... maybe they were too cheap to make it properly! Jan 14 00:06:25 hrmmm...suspicious activity Jan 14 00:06:56 um stupid in kde how do i make a shortcut that will start 3 things at once Jan 14 00:07:04 AcIdR3IgN: yeah, believe it or not a lot of power supplies are designed so that each of those sets of wires coming out of the PSU is expected to handle a certain load Jan 14 00:07:26 --> spenser (~spenser@user-0c8hmse.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:07:34 They're not just split willy nilly inside the PSU because that's how you get fun things like grounding loops (which are bad for audio, but far worse for sensitive computer stuff) Jan 14 00:07:34 mhm.. i gathered that! Jan 14 00:07:37 <-- Epidemical has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 00:07:50 --> Packeteer (~zed@53.75.233.220.exetel.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:08:42 XandriX-> (guess) the command inside the symlink will read as: thing1 && thing2 && thing3 Jan 14 00:08:44 oh.. so this (interjoining of molex connectors) is normal? Jan 14 00:08:49 <-- DieRatte has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 00:08:53 <-- XandriX has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 00:08:54 XandriX: Use semicolons to separate the commands, or just make a shell script that does them and have hte launcher fire that up Jan 14 00:09:36 AcIdR3IgN: If you're talking about what I think you're talkig about with some circuits having two plugs and some only one, then yes Jan 14 00:09:59 Ya stick too many things on one bus and you generally get grounding loops that make the equipment less able to handle power fluctuations Jan 14 00:10:48 --> aedigital (~aedigital@200-168-147-186.dsl.telesp.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:11:17 ...if you're having issues where connecting "one more device" makes one or more of them just not work, then your PSU is definitely dying Jan 14 00:11:34 You should make obtaining a replacement a high priority Jan 14 00:11:38 --> tewmten_ (tewmten@ulug.org) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:11:47 A bad PSU can (and frequently will) cook most of your hardware Jan 14 00:12:13 damn.. bad news for my girlfriend then :) but i was planning on buying a new one... Jan 14 00:12:14 The PSU is usually the #2 thing to not scrimp on for most people who build their own systems from parts Jan 14 00:12:17 <-- meta-ridley has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 00:12:29 * ximpul agrees with Dagmar_bongo Jan 14 00:12:30 #1 memory, #2 PSU, #3 hard disk Jan 14 00:12:54 motherboard, case, and video card are kind of interchangeable in that list Jan 14 00:12:55 --> nomasteryoda (~nomastery@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:12:56 well i flunk on #1 and 2 :D Jan 14 00:12:58 ehh i think its #3 mobo Jan 14 00:13:16 ximpul: You've not yet had a hard disk just up and die on you yet, then. :) Jan 14 00:13:40 That only has to happen _once_ and you'll be all about paying that extra $20 for western digital over maxtor Jan 14 00:13:46 <-- tewmten has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 00:13:56 The 5 year warrant on WD drives is nice, too Jan 14 00:14:02 Dagmar_bongo-> no, i have, a few times from reputable manufacturers, but i see alot of folks scrimping on their mobos and getting awkward issues Jan 14 00:14:03 er warranty Jan 14 00:14:06 mhm.. and just fyi, my hard disk (120gb one) is WD :) Jan 14 00:14:32 ximpul: Well, there's scrimping, and there's shooting yourself in the face by buying from PCChips Jan 14 00:14:38 wow, Seagate warranty service is *fast* Jan 14 00:14:48 took them like 2 days to turn it around. Jan 14 00:15:36 Dagmar_bongo-> yep, ive seen that, even seen some less than savory ecs boards Jan 14 00:16:20 that pause the ps2 mouse every 6 seconds Jan 14 00:17:14 Can anyone suggest a mailing list suitable for someone who is trying to rebuild an Altair 8800? :) Jan 14 00:17:21 I mean, there has to be something.. Jan 14 00:18:00 <-- adjacent_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 00:19:31 WD and Seagate are both hot and heavy for one of the other of them to fall behind Jan 14 00:19:31 My attitude towards case purchases is basically bound to the fact that I know how to paint metal. Jan 14 00:19:31 ...but some people wanna spend $200 on a pretty case Jan 14 00:19:31 Never, ever keep the PSU in a case you get for under $50. Jan 14 00:19:32 <-- nixor has kicked Dagmar_bongo from ##slackware (flood) Jan 14 00:19:55 --> smoke_ (~nelsonch@64.140.93.2) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:19:59 seagate? Jan 14 00:20:20 <-- r3z has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 00:20:20 --> Dagmar_bongo (~dagmar@209.149.57.115) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:20:24 hehe Jan 14 00:20:47 Love this atheros card. :/ Jan 14 00:21:00 <-- rh0-work has quit ("Abandonando") Jan 14 00:21:04 ECS has some serious revision control issues Jan 14 00:21:31 I've got a K7SEM from them, and ther'es like six different sub-revisions on it, and you dooon't wanna mix and match the BIOS between them Jan 14 00:21:38 huh? Jan 14 00:22:40 anyone here familiar with ethernet bridging? Jan 14 00:22:41 skubee: The K7SEM typically has a athlon soldered right onto it, but ther'es the 1.0, the 3.0a, the 3.0c, all with different memory controllers, and the 3.0M (the one I have) that has yet another memory and AGP controller on it, and 256Mb of RAM also soldered to the board Jan 14 00:22:45 smoke_: Yep Jan 14 00:22:46 <-- IronBob (~ironbob@adsl-208-191-166-220.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has left ##slackware Jan 14 00:22:55 Usually you're doing something wrong when you think you need it tho Jan 14 00:23:01 --> IronBob (~ironbob@adsl-208-191-166-220.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:23:15 arp publishing is what most people should do Jan 14 00:23:32 dag, im ahving this problem with my traffic, im trying to mirror all my traffic to this machine, and monitor the traffic, but the porblem im having is that the traffic only gets to my prerouting chain... how do i have it go past that and go int o the forwarding/postrouting chains? Jan 14 00:23:44 yeah i had to find a hacked bios to get that ecs fsb correct Jan 14 00:23:57 <-- maddler has quit ("KDE 3.4... well... I hope so!") Jan 14 00:24:38 smoke_: What, it's not bridging across like it's supposed to? Jan 14 00:24:56 <-- qmasterrr has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 00:25:18 smoke_: Do you understand what role ARP plays in ethernet communication? Jan 14 00:25:30 --> rada (~rada@r3x178.chello.upc.cz) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:25:33 morning Jan 14 00:25:36 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:26:16 heya Jan 14 00:26:30 --> rh0-work (~rolando@205.241.35.189) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:27:01 <-- Slack_Rox has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 00:27:34 hey Jan 14 00:27:35 --> Slack_Rox (~Slack_Rox@pcp0010004482pcs.centrl01.va.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:27:50 --> maddler (~maddler@195.110.158.19) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:27:52 dagmar, umm, well Jan 14 00:27:57 dagmar, its bridging fine Jan 14 00:28:03 smoke_: but... Jan 14 00:28:16 dagmar, but for some reason when i mirror traffic from the switch to the machine, it only gets to the PREROUTING table. Jan 14 00:28:18 not any further. Jan 14 00:28:58 To _which_ machine is the next question Jan 14 00:29:24 the machine with the bridging on it Jan 14 00:29:27 I take it that you're trying to pass the stuff through a quasi-firewall to the actual host? Jan 14 00:29:28 <-- Squall` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 00:29:55 --> gerardo (gerardo@200.52.211.206) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:30:25 ...or have you got the switch mirroring two ports Jan 14 00:30:34 I want to edit crontab using the editor I like. I set up VISUAL and EDITOR to joe but I still have to deal with vi Jan 14 00:30:45 <-- shagin has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 00:30:46 Topology is kind of important Jan 14 00:32:35 naa Jan 14 00:32:36 <-- cap has quit ("leaving") Jan 14 00:32:52 --> AllenOne (~Matt@68.188.175.165.bay.mi.chartermi.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:32:58 i have a switch mirroring its T1/wan port to another port which has the bridging machine connected to it Jan 14 00:33:05 im trying to log aol traffic Jan 14 00:33:07 ont he network Jan 14 00:33:09 --> Prefect (Prefect@CPE00c049e45263-CM000e5cde4c9a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:33:10 <-- spenser has quit () Jan 14 00:33:15 Oh Jan 14 00:33:22 but for some reason it doesnt work when i mirror the traffic to the maachine, it only gets to the prerouting table. Jan 14 00:33:24 lol Jan 14 00:33:28 You will need to add an explicit rule in the prerouting table Jan 14 00:33:49 what target do i use? Jan 14 00:33:51 REDIRECT? Jan 14 00:33:51 It's getting that traffic, looking at it, and saying to itself "Nope, it's not for me. Someone messed up" and that's why it's dropping it Jan 14 00:34:08 dag, but when i ifconfig br0 it shows no dropped packets. Jan 14 00:34:17 no errored or dropped packets. Jan 14 00:34:23 thats whats really wierd. Jan 14 00:34:34 Because that only logs dropped packets that were dropped because of a buffer being overly taxed Jan 14 00:34:43 if i use iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING/POST/FORWARD/INPUT -p tcp --dport 5190 -j LOG Jan 14 00:34:49 that should show the correct results right? Jan 14 00:34:59 dag, ahhh ok Jan 14 00:35:10 dag, so what kind of rule would ih ave to set to get it to forward correctly? Jan 14 00:35:32 crackjack, got the bittorent? Jan 14 00:35:34 One that neither you nor your switch are likely to be happy with... Lemme think a amoment Jan 14 00:35:42 export VISUAL=/usr/local/bin/nano worked for me rada, try replacing nano with joe Jan 14 00:35:52 You're trying to forward the aol traffic through the bridged host to a logging host? Jan 14 00:36:00 rada-> also make sure your pointing to the right location Jan 14 00:36:08 dagmar, yeah pretty much Jan 14 00:36:13 dag, well the logging host IS the bridge Jan 14 00:36:24 --> spenser (~spenser@user-0c8hmse.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:36:28 Hmm... so what's it bridging to then? Jan 14 00:36:32 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:36:33 i event ried turning the bridging off, and it seems like its not working Jan 14 00:36:41 dag, originally i had it inline Jan 14 00:36:43 and it worked. Jan 14 00:36:51 but i wanted to move it and mirror traffic to it and then this happened heh Jan 14 00:36:54 does anyone know what module is used for atheros wlan cards? Jan 14 00:37:26 You're probably better off just running tcpdump on the interface connected to the switch Jan 14 00:37:48 ...or... use -I instead of -A Jan 14 00:38:09 ximpul didn't work :-( Jan 14 00:38:12 AllenOne-> try http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/index.php Jan 14 00:38:14 dag, that doenst work Jan 14 00:38:20 dag, tcpdump doesnt catch the aol traffic for some reason. Jan 14 00:38:30 <-- Squall` has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 00:38:35 if i do Jan 14 00:38:42 ximpul VISUAL=/usr/bin/joe and I still get vi Jan 14 00:38:47 tcpdump -i br0/eth0/any tcp and port 5190 Jan 14 00:38:54 doesnt get any results. Jan 14 00:39:02 --> HeatHawk (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:39:12 its really frustrating, i dont get it, its the wierdest thing ive seen in a while. Jan 14 00:39:37 something about the bridging causing the system to thinking its not allowable or something i guess. Jan 14 00:39:39 AllenOne: madwifi.sourceforge.net Jan 14 00:39:39 AllenOne: And may god have mercy on your soul. Atheros support works in a very weird way at the moment Jan 14 00:39:39 smoke_: Yeah, your interface is still filtering ARP stuff not destined for it Jan 14 00:40:26 well it is better than Broadcom :| Jan 14 00:40:32 i'm stuck with ndiswrapper Jan 14 00:40:39 AllenOne: ath_pci Jan 14 00:40:46 rada-> and your doing this all for the same user yes ? Jan 14 00:40:47 dag, there is no way around it? Jan 14 00:41:16 dag, i mean it doenst matter how crappy hackish it is, i just want to fix it heh Jan 14 00:41:16 smoke_: Sounds like the switch isn't mirroring to me Jan 14 00:41:21 dag, its impossible Jan 14 00:41:37 dag, because, i plugged a laptop on the other end of the bridging machine, and ethereal can see the packets. Jan 14 00:41:37 If the packets were coming down the wire _at all_ then tcpdump would see them for sure Jan 14 00:41:56 like i dont get it Jan 14 00:42:06 ONLY the aol traffic gets filtered it seems like, i even see http traffic Jan 14 00:42:20 ximpul hm. editing /etc/profile logged as root. set tells me that VISUAL=/usr/bin/joe Jan 14 00:42:21 No idea man. Jan 14 00:42:25 i see samba traffic on tcpdump.. ssh , p2p, just not the aol stuff.. Jan 14 00:42:26 ok. Jan 14 00:42:44 The AOL stuff should be coming through if that switch is properly mirroring traffic Jan 14 00:44:40 smoke_: You don't need to have bridging enabled on your host box if the switch has you bridged Jan 14 00:44:51 <-- HeatHawk has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 00:45:06 It may be that your iptables rule is actually causing the packets to be dropped Jan 14 00:45:09 --> W|GG-Laptop (~deez@ip68-98-179-238.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:45:15 dag, i ahve to have the bridging on for iptables to work correctly. Jan 14 00:45:22 --> express_ (1000@203-219-235-45-syd-ts26-2600.tpgi.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:45:23 dag, the traffic has to pass thru the box to even have iptables catch it. Jan 14 00:45:27 or i wouldn't enable bridging. Jan 14 00:45:46 Yeah, for iptables to catch it... tcpump no Jan 14 00:45:57 W|GG-Laptop: Heya Jan 14 00:46:04 hi Jan 14 00:46:05 <-- IronBob has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 00:46:09 Part of the nic driver's function is to tell the nic card whether or not to operate in promiscuous mode Jan 14 00:46:10 * ^Jenn pokes W|GG-Laptop Jan 14 00:46:16 when i got home, my cable modem was locked Jan 14 00:46:36 * FriedBob thinks he just stumped #gimp. :/ Jan 14 00:46:36 If the card is not in promiscuous mode, it will silently ignore all traffic not destined for it's MAC without ever bothering to tell the computer about it Jan 14 00:46:48 --> seemawn_ (~zomtec@p50811D24.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:46:58 * W|GG-Laptop pokes ^Jenn and hands her a pregnancy test Jan 14 00:47:33 --> r3z (~Uhm@adsl-065-007-146-053.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:47:48 and i didn't have my snort process up and running so I don't know what happened to lock the modem Jan 14 00:48:00 <-- neoslak has quit ("Linux, the free OS....except for your SOUL! MOUHAHAHAHA!") Jan 14 00:48:06 <^Jenn> dude! Jan 14 00:48:18 lol Jan 14 00:48:34 ...which is why iptables isn't seeing it Jan 14 00:49:03 You can try a wildcard arp entry, but be careful not to have it actually publish that to the segment Jan 14 00:49:08 <-- AllenOne has quit (" I love my HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") Jan 14 00:50:05 <-- avaurus has quit ("und ich werde doch sterben wie ihr auch :D") Jan 14 00:50:34 I want to edit crontab using the editor I like. I set up VISUAL and EDITOR to /usr/local/joe but I still have to deal with vi :-( Jan 14 00:50:40 --> str (~str@216.230.158.50) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:50:47 If you forcibly bring up the interface in promisc mode, (it'll be hell on CPU load, but I'm sure you're expecting that) it will disable that and iptables should (hopefully) be able to catch those packets Jan 14 00:51:11 dag, yeah i have it in promisc mode Jan 14 00:51:13 well ntfs support is working finally :) Thank you for the tip on 'make mrproper' (whoever told me to do that, I think Dagmar_bongo did) Jan 14 00:51:13 but still not working Jan 14 00:51:14 i have no idea Jan 14 00:51:15 --> Epidemical (~mmelin@c-3c3be253.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:51:23 i give up ill try again tommarow, this problem is just too f'n wierd Jan 14 00:51:27 Hi there.. Jan 14 00:51:34 rada: Did you _export_ the variable? Jan 14 00:51:44 <-- mute_ has quit ("Changing server") Jan 14 00:52:01 I'm having problems with wget..... it is saving the headers in the downloaded html.. how can I supress that? Jan 14 00:52:18 <-- oneforall has quit ("I like Boobies") Jan 14 00:52:32 str: Use fewer command-line arguments Jan 14 00:52:42 Dagmar_bongo no. but set tells that it is filled properly. I mean I didn't put export before VISUAL=/usr/local/joe Jan 14 00:52:43 ..and check your /etc/wgetrc for wackiness Jan 14 00:53:05 rada: You need to export it, or at least, it works fine over here when I export VISUAL Jan 14 00:53:23 let's try Jan 14 00:53:34 It ignores VISUAL when it's not exported Jan 14 00:53:48 Dagmar_bongo, I'm only using: wget www.domain.com -O index2.html --load-cookies cookies.txt -save-cookies cookies.txt -o/dev/null Jan 14 00:54:11 --> DarkTide (~nerd@dialup-4.156.105.195.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:54:30 <-- Epidemic1l has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 00:54:31 Dagmar_bongo, and i need all those comand-lines Jan 14 00:55:16 --> HeatHawk (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:55:20 --> cap (~cap@h246-63-238-213.mesh.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:55:34 Dagmar_bongo hm, strange. it works fine now. thank you. Jan 14 00:55:38 <-- seemawn has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 00:56:49 str: REad your command arguments _carefully_ Jan 14 00:57:10 You are missing a dash that is causing something (hemhem) to be interpreted as -s (--save-headers) Jan 14 00:57:26 Dagmar_bongo I don't understand. set tells that system variable is filled Jan 14 00:57:39 rada: Because set just shows you variables local to that process Jan 14 00:57:53 These are not to be confused with _environment_ variables Jan 14 00:58:19 If you type `export` by itself you will see the variables that have been explictly set in the environment Jan 14 00:58:29 There's actually a subtle difference between them Jan 14 00:58:37 --> Rasta|Ganja (metro@200.92.35.102) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 00:59:36 Anything you set without export is only considered set for bash, and is basically unavailable to any commands you run from that shell Jan 14 00:59:51 s/for/by/ Jan 14 01:00:08 learning every day. hm. morning Jan 14 01:00:14 no biggie Jan 14 01:00:18 Dagmar_bongo thank you Jan 14 01:01:11 rada: It seems silly at first until you start doing things with lots and lots of subshells and find values propagating down like mad and wasting memory because of them being exported to the environment Jan 14 01:01:41 That's the main reason they're treated differently... to facilitate the non-propagation to subshells Jan 14 01:01:45 --> chrismo (~chrismo@rdlax12-b241.dialup.optusnet.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:01:55 Dagmar_bongo or untill you tell me :-) Jan 14 01:02:13 Dagmar_bongo, that was it . .thanks Jan 14 01:03:06 str: Until I did a little experiment in another terminal I thought you'd just typod that argument Jan 14 01:03:21 thanks Jan 14 01:03:40 rada: Just be glad you're not coding the kind of shell madness I'm working on in another vt Jan 14 01:04:18 <-- ximpul has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 01:04:26 I managed to actualy hit the environment size limit twice today Jan 14 01:04:33 I just figured bash would blow up and die. Jan 14 01:04:36 Hehe Jan 14 01:04:44 --> leroy (1000@dial068.norfolk.252.crosslink.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:05:11 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:05:34 <-- HeatHawk has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 01:05:41 It'll teach me to be more careful about what I do with bash arrays, that's for sure Jan 14 01:06:16 :-) Jan 14 01:06:22 Heh Jan 14 01:06:28 <-- leroy (1000@dial068.norfolk.252.crosslink.net) has left ##slackware Jan 14 01:06:29 thank you again. 1am here. ready for bad Jan 14 01:06:30 bed Jan 14 01:06:33 Doubly-linked lists in bash, no matter how well-intentioned, are not to be attempted Jan 14 01:06:37 <-- rada (~rada@r3x178.chello.upc.cz) has left ##slackware Jan 14 01:08:26 Time for me to go pick up the gf and take her to see Phantom. Jan 14 01:08:26 Bleh Jan 14 01:08:26 <-- Dagmar_bongo has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 01:08:28 --> adjacent (~scott@63.209.153.101) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:08:29 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:09:39 Phantom? Jan 14 01:09:42 of the Opera? 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Jan 14 01:19:50 --> HeatHawk (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:20:08 <-- oatmeal has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 01:20:49 night all Jan 14 01:20:59 <-- AcIdR3IgN has quit () Jan 14 01:21:00 --> nomasteryoda (~nomastery@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:21:48 slicslak: i used to use cyrus imapd looooong ago on freebsd Jan 14 01:22:10 ananke, you there man? Jan 14 01:22:21 thx Vayn0r Jan 14 01:22:41 slicslak slackware comes with a simple one. (it can be complexified through recompiling) Jan 14 01:22:49 --- nixor removes ban on *away!*@* Jan 14 01:24:34 Zalamander, this is actually on a gentoo box. i'm just asking here as slackware users tend to have the most epxerience. :-) Jan 14 01:24:42 --> Destructo (~destructo@pool-68-161-135-47.ny325.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:24:46 haha Jan 14 01:25:02 slicslak, duh :) Jan 14 01:25:03 hey where can i paste something besides #flood Jan 14 01:25:06 we know everything Jan 14 01:25:10 Destructo: pastebin.com Jan 14 01:25:15 Destructo, #gentoo loves flooding Jan 14 01:25:21 slicslak heh, I see. So "already installed" isn't an advantage for you :-) Jan 14 01:25:49 --> maddler (~maddler@195.110.158.19) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:25:58 lol Jan 14 01:25:58 <-- D3 has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 01:26:00 Squall`: heh...they gotta have something to look at that reminds them of gcc output scrolling... Jan 14 01:26:10 raindog, lol, yeah Jan 14 01:26:14 :-D Jan 14 01:26:35 --> krao (~krao@CM-14-201.attla.cl) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:26:36 --> sladegen (~sladegen@xdsl-532.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:27:39 <-- seemawn_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 01:29:20 <-- cap has quit (Success) Jan 14 01:30:03 --> nachox (Emi@200-122-59-163.dsl.prima.net.ar) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:31:58 <-- Vayn0r (~Vayn0r@CPE0050047e7f32-CM0f2049994695.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!") 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Jan 14 01:37:04 :/ Jan 14 01:37:13 --> oneforall (guru@216.123.245.148) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:37:14 I have just installed slackware 10 Jan 14 01:37:15 no just rc.d Jan 14 01:37:21 but I cant listen mp3s Jan 14 01:37:21 /etc/rc.d Jan 14 01:37:28 I wanted to use xmms Jan 14 01:37:30 skubee, slack doesnt use sysv system Jan 14 01:37:31 --> Squall`` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:37:39 but there is just noise Jan 14 01:37:43 nothing more Jan 14 01:37:46 skubee: Slack uses BSD-style init Jan 14 01:37:47 not SysV Jan 14 01:37:53 which is part of the reason why it kicks so much more ass Jan 14 01:37:57 skubee, or uses but just barely ;() Jan 14 01:38:03 --> [baton] (~daemon@ns.sevsky.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:38:04 tryin to install vmware... how would i go about that? Jan 14 01:38:44 there is a how-to online somewhere, google for 'slacware vmware.' Jan 14 01:38:55 kurt ...? Jan 14 01:39:00 create them dirs... to satisfy its needs Jan 14 01:39:01 you need to create a few directories and do some stuff. isnt too hard. Jan 14 01:39:11 what is the problem ? Jan 14 01:39:13 :( Jan 14 01:39:21 danke Jan 14 01:39:44 hatram: you said that you need to help Jan 14 01:39:47 so I told you to help Jan 14 01:39:53 yeah Jan 14 01:39:55 hatram check your mixer settings, and your XMMS output plugin option Jan 14 01:40:05 I have a problem about listening songs Jan 14 01:40:13 I cant hear them when I use xmms Jan 14 01:40:17 I just hear noise Jan 14 01:40:25 you didn't say that you needed help Jan 14 01:40:29 you just said that you needed TO help Jan 14 01:40:35 so, I told you to go help Jan 14 01:40:43 kurt ok .........I needed help Jan 14 01:40:52 I need help........ Jan 14 01:40:53 :) Jan 14 01:40:54 ok? Jan 14 01:41:00 hatram :-) Jan 14 01:41:25 zalamander :) Jan 14 01:41:28 jokes about language are funnier when there isn't a language barrier Jan 14 01:41:44 YEAH Jan 14 01:41:56 I need help....... Jan 14 01:41:57 :) Jan 14 01:42:03 hatram check your mixer settings Jan 14 01:42:20 mixer settings? Jan 14 01:42:29 what could be the possible problem? Jan 14 01:42:30 hatram are you using KDE? Gnome? Something else? Jan 14 01:42:36 Kde Jan 14 01:42:37 yes, make sure it's set on chop rather than puree' Jan 14 01:42:56 chop the ice, then add alchohol Jan 14 01:43:01 hatram then kmix. The problem could be that you have some input turned all the way up, and pcm turned all the way down Jan 14 01:43:01 I tried it on kde..... Jan 14 01:43:22 there is just noise as output... Jan 14 01:43:52 just do it Jan 14 01:44:10 <-- HeatHawk has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 01:44:11 hatram make sure that you're using the ALSA output plugin in your XMMS preferences Jan 14 01:44:26 ok I will ...... Jan 14 01:44:43 --> HeatHawk (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:44:51 <-- HeatHawk has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 01:45:04 zalamnder thank you verymuch Jan 14 01:45:07 --> HeatHawk (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:45:08 see you later again Jan 14 01:45:10 thanks....... Jan 14 01:45:14 bye, good luck Jan 14 01:45:25 <-- Epidemical has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 01:45:27 <-- hatram has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 01:47:23 --> oatmeal (~pioneer@oatmeal.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:49:31 <-- _Hitek_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 01:53:24 HDA timeout error ?! Jan 14 01:54:18 --> h|barbobot (~h@bgp01137033bgs.ypwest01.mi.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:54:25 Dying drive? Jan 14 01:54:30 fred87, hows your slack64 comin? Jan 14 01:54:46 --> craig_ (~craig@hlfxns01bbg-142068111203.ns.aliant.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:55:19 dunno Jan 14 01:55:24 what could be the problem Jan 14 01:55:39 --> candy_cane (0@200191154225-dial-user-ECP.acessonet.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:55:39 --- nixor sets ban on *!0@* Jan 14 01:55:39 <-- nixor has kicked candy_cane from ##slackware (banned: It is very dangerous to IRC as root. Please return under a user account.) Jan 14 01:56:21 how do i detatch a screen? (screen man page is confusing the shit out of me :( ) Jan 14 01:57:03 ctrl-a d Jan 14 01:57:20 hahahahaha Jan 14 01:57:21 :)) Jan 14 01:57:26 <-- usr13 has quit ("leaving") Jan 14 01:57:27 WTF does that do? Jan 14 01:57:31 thanks aestus Jan 14 01:57:34 <-- bri|zor-nix has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 14 01:57:43 ezrafree, np Jan 14 01:57:56 i guess i need to do something to get it back now? Jan 14 01:57:57 :) Jan 14 01:58:01 do i just type screen again? Jan 14 01:58:02 screen -RD Jan 14 01:58:04 any way for me to check the drive for error or something ? Jan 14 01:58:05 works well Jan 14 01:58:05 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 01:58:05 ahh Jan 14 01:58:07 thanks Jan 14 01:58:19 hrm, im setting an ID3 tag for an mp3, but this single one wont set.... Jan 14 01:59:02 i like the manpage for screen. "-D -RR Attach here and now. Whatever that means, just do it." Jan 14 01:59:17 I like the option -d -R myself Jan 14 01:59:40 <-- HeatHawk has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 01:59:52 --> HeatHawk (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:00:00 i run epic and have ALT-1, ALT-2, ALT-3, etc... set up to let me view the different windows in epic... with screen they're all offset by 1 though Jan 14 02:00:10 <-- straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 02:00:17 i love split screens Jan 14 02:00:17 Hummm.... any hear speak 31337? how would you best render lamescriptkiddie? Jan 14 02:00:18 mmm Jan 14 02:00:26 like what used to be ALT-1 is now ALT-2 Jan 14 02:00:28 and so on Jan 14 02:00:34 aestus: split screens or dual head? Jan 14 02:00:39 am i doing something wrong or is that just the way it goes? Jan 14 02:00:42 Ahhh. Jan 14 02:00:45 14m3 5cr1p7 k1dd13? Jan 14 02:01:02 * Kyle_S loves irssi and its multi windows. Jan 14 02:01:06 hehe Jan 14 02:01:07 aestus: thats prettymuch what I came up with. Jan 14 02:01:20 Kyle_S: in irssi i wouldn't have these problems then? Jan 14 02:01:25 * ^Jenn wet willies W|GG-Laptop Jan 14 02:01:31 i like screen -x, controlling a screen that's displayed on a remote computer Jan 14 02:01:46 hahahahaha Jan 14 02:01:53 ezrafree: you know what I mean, its multiple views... you know swtiching back and forth between channels, things like that. Jan 14 02:01:54 Kyle_S: Do you have one of those clients with a filter to translating your text to '31337' ? Jan 14 02:01:57 <^Jenn> ops there you are lol Jan 14 02:02:03 <^Jenn> ya sneaker Jan 14 02:02:18 FriedBob: No I don't... heh thats OK I think I'll stick with what I've got. Jan 14 02:02:29 --> jabooty (~ebates@63.78.28.225) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:02:46 Kyle_S: I think Xchat has one, or at least has it available. Jan 14 02:02:50 Kyle_S: that's how i have epic set up too Jan 14 02:03:00 BTW where can I get a tiny win32 executiable that will crash a win2k/xp machine Jan 14 02:03:08 <-- HeatHawk has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 02:03:18 --> HeatHawk (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:03:23 ... I need to put one in place in the right path for all those stupid windos worms that are hitting my poor poor little ibook. Jan 14 02:03:32 Kyle_S: www.microsoft.com ;P Jan 14 02:03:44 FriedBob: all of there executables are HUGE though. Jan 14 02:03:56 HDA timeout error ?! is my HDD sick ? will it die ? Jan 14 02:03:57 :) Jan 14 02:04:28 would you recommend upgrading from 2.4 to 2.6? Jan 14 02:05:00 there's no reason to NOT migrate to 2.6 Jan 14 02:05:15 <-- ezrafree has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 02:05:18 ok, then my next question is Jan 14 02:05:18 Kyle_S: too bad they fixed the com/com/com crash Jan 14 02:05:20 but it totally depends on what you need...its not actually needed in most cases Jan 14 02:05:26 how do I migrate to 2.6? :) Jan 14 02:06:19 <-- larry_lumbo has quit ("Connection reset by pheer") Jan 14 02:06:27 aestus: Humm? Jan 14 02:06:35 jabooty lllllllooolllllllll nice . not upgrade 2.6.10 u will have some system problems if slackware 10 Jan 14 02:06:51 <-- r3z has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 02:06:52 <-- three_11 has quit ("Get away from me biatch") Jan 14 02:06:58 <-- HeatHawk has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 02:07:01 so stay with 2.4 since I'm on slack10? Jan 14 02:07:11 --> HeatHawk (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:07:18 --> Tw33Ty (~Tw33Ty___@81.10.60.126) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:07:21 jabooty: well lets see... do you need any of the new drivers available in 2.6? No? Then no /need/ to upgrade. Computer is currently stable/fast? Again no /need/ to upgrade. Jan 14 02:07:25 Kyle_S: you used to be able to access a certain path on a win box and crash the machine, file:///com/com/com or something Jan 14 02:07:31 ;) unless you just want somene to give you an excuse to upgrade. Jan 14 02:07:42 aestus: Heh. Thats just funny. Jan 14 02:08:18 Kyle_S: lol. Yeah, everything runs fine. I just thought it would be nice to be at the bleeding edge :) Jan 14 02:08:30 aestus: Still can, actually. Unless you cripple the command line shell. Jan 14 02:08:31 Kyle_S need to upgrade if he wants a secure lcal box and has some untrustable users i think Jan 14 02:08:51 sunbx: ooh thats a good point... Jan 14 02:08:52 <-- xemon has quit ("Ping timed out") Jan 14 02:09:06 sunbx: patch Jan 14 02:09:08 <-- krao has quit ("Abandonando") Jan 14 02:09:10 <-- HeatHawk has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 02:09:17 have they stopped patching 2.4? Jan 14 02:09:25 security patches, i mean Jan 14 02:09:49 <-- [Granger] has quit () Jan 14 02:10:01 --> aqua (~blegha@217.238.33.65.cfl.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:10:31 what is the quickets way to update slackware? Jan 14 02:10:50 unixfool: probably not. I think 2.2 still gets patches even. Jan 14 02:11:08 aqua, we are still working on that one... :-p Jan 14 02:11:14 --> odraude (~unix@201.1.68.11) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:11:20 what are some good ways Jan 14 02:11:22 i'm sure since 2.6 is still in /testing, 2.4 patches are supported...so, if jabooty still wants to run 2.4, he can patch any holes Jan 14 02:11:23 I tried swaret Jan 14 02:11:28 it's not bad Jan 14 02:11:34 though not like pkgsrc or apt-get Jan 14 02:11:42 2.0 gets patched... or did some not long time ago... Jan 14 02:11:43 aqua: slackpkg is what slackware comes with Jan 14 02:11:44 dunno i like 2.6 kernel . with the 2.4 kernel i always have a above 1.50 load average , and with this one i have 0 in the line and httpd is almous killed Jan 14 02:11:45 aqua: Don't come crying to use when it borks your system. Jan 14 02:11:51 i believe its in /extra Jan 14 02:12:06 is that what you recommend? Jan 14 02:12:10 FriedBob, ? Jan 14 02:12:20 sunbx: i run 2.4 on all my slack machines but one...2.4 is fine for the average user Jan 14 02:12:27 * sunbx is compiling the 2.6.10 kernel wirh grsec right now and wonders how will his stupid system work Jan 14 02:13:01 like a detention camp :?) Jan 14 02:13:12 <-- odraude (~unix@201.1.68.11) has left ##slackware Jan 14 02:13:20 --> odraude (~unix@201.1.68.11) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:13:21 aqua: When swaret breaks your system, don't come here for help, we don't support it. Jan 14 02:13:24 ahh Jan 14 02:13:46 * sunbx also wonders how did the system crashed about 5 mins ago and added a monitor to his system and saw some HDA timeout shit and is very afraid that he will have to buy a new one ? Jan 14 02:13:46 --> HeatHawk (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:13:48 aqua: slackpkg is made by a slackware developer, from what i understand, so that makes me think that slackpkg is inherently better than any other third party pkg mgt tool Jan 14 02:14:01 was made, that is Jan 14 02:14:02 lol Jan 14 02:14:06 can it get the packages from the net? Jan 14 02:14:27 * aqua is loading slackpkg.sf.net right now Jan 14 02:14:30 so wich one is the good one ? a 2.6.7 kernel with grsec or a 2.4.26 kernel with grsec ? ppl ? Jan 14 02:14:33 yeah, the slackpkg docs can tell you Jan 14 02:14:46 hmmm Jan 14 02:14:48 looks nice Jan 14 02:14:56 I'll try it out Jan 14 02:15:07 lol FriedBob do you not like swaret? Jan 14 02:15:22 --> ReKleSS (~rek@nat20.cyber.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:15:33 jabooty: Never used it, but seen too many people crying in here and wanting help after it screwed them over. Jan 14 02:15:38 many people don't care for swaret here...seen too many people come looking for help after using swaret Jan 14 02:15:44 little question... Jan 14 02:15:44 dayam Jan 14 02:15:47 jinx Jan 14 02:15:48 lol Jan 14 02:15:54 I've just installed slack, with my own 2.6 kernel Jan 14 02:16:08 whenever I try to start rxvt under X, in complains that /dev/tty is a directory Jan 14 02:16:14 auch Jan 14 02:16:15 :) Jan 14 02:16:15 what's going on? Jan 14 02:16:31 I've never had problems with swaret. What do you guys suggest using instead? Jan 14 02:16:39 --> xemon (~zxemon@65.171.164.98) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:16:40 * unixfool points up Jan 14 02:17:01 unixfool: did I miss something in the topic? Jan 14 02:17:12 ReKleSS came in a little late for that. Jan 14 02:17:16 * ^Jenn points out Jan 14 02:17:20 5 times out of 10, someone that's asking swaret questions in here has borked their system Jan 14 02:17:21 lol Jan 14 02:17:25 Resonance: oh Jan 14 02:17:27 lol Jan 14 02:17:28 --> fhobia (~fhobia@24-205-238-48.slo-cres.charterpipeline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:17:34 ReKleSS: slackpkg Jan 14 02:17:45 it comes with slackware...i believe its under /extra Jan 14 02:17:55 --> larry_lumbo (~dev@bgp01014816bgs.rosvle01.mi.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:18:03 <-- fhobia has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 02:18:07 And it wasn't him anyway, so we're all messed up in the head. Jan 14 02:18:13 * unixfool moves back to the laptop upstairs Jan 14 02:18:27 i installed EtermSlackware.tar.gz and it seems that i cant start it Jan 14 02:18:28 wich is the best kernel ? Jan 14 02:18:29 unixfool: which cd? Jan 14 02:18:41 --> nullvalue (~echelon@ool-43576ba8.dyn.optonline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:18:48 ^Jenn, i was kidding :( Jan 14 02:18:49 can someone guide me through the internet connection sharing process between two linux pc's... i tried reading the nat howto's, etc... but i don't know where to start! :) Jan 14 02:18:51 now i feel guilty Jan 14 02:18:53 i'm sorry Jan 14 02:19:01 eh? Jan 14 02:19:02 --> straterra (~straterra@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:19:16 hey W|GG-Laptop =) Jan 14 02:19:21 eh, don't worry about it Jan 14 02:19:34 nullvalue try NAT Jan 14 02:19:35 ;) Jan 14 02:19:45 what about it? Jan 14 02:19:46 --> usr13 (~cap@h246-63-238-213.mesh.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:19:48 hi nachox Jan 14 02:19:59 --> ideal (~idealm@211.100.227.107) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:20:03 W|GG-Laptop, any news about sand? Jan 14 02:20:05 should solve your problem. Jan 14 02:20:14 hey... what happened to pkginstall? Jan 14 02:20:19 or am I thinking of the wrong distro? Jan 14 02:20:25 he's ok...me /msg'd me Jan 14 02:20:29 * sunbx wonders witch is the most sexy and fanci kernel of all times. Jan 14 02:20:35 pkgtool? Jan 14 02:20:36 * sunbx rr fancy Jan 14 02:20:39 or installpkg? Jan 14 02:20:47 * Squall`` wonders if sunbx can spell Jan 14 02:20:54 --> dwolf (~unknown@dwolf.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:20:58 how do you start eterm Jan 14 02:21:04 larry_lumbo, Eterm Jan 14 02:21:04 dayam...brent spiner is on "Joey" Jan 14 02:21:09 <-- aqua (~blegha@217.238.33.65.cfl.rr.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 14 02:21:10 sunbx, that's what i've been reading up on Jan 14 02:21:19 heh Jan 14 02:21:21 i still haven't figured out where to start Jan 14 02:21:22 thanks Jan 14 02:21:25 is 3 hrs past midnight here and i haven't sleeped about 4 days so i am tired so ... sorry about that spelling stuff Jan 14 02:21:26 <^Jenn> fa la la la Jan 14 02:21:37 how do i get it in my flux menu Jan 14 02:21:46 lol Jan 14 02:21:56 stifler's mom is on "Joey" Jan 14 02:21:57 --> Epidemical (~mmelin@c-3c3be253.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:22:01 <-- rh0-work has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 02:22:03 larry_lumbo, you don't, because you don't wanna use flux Jan 14 02:22:03 heh Jan 14 02:22:10 <^Jenn> id do stiflers mom Jan 14 02:22:14 why not Jan 14 02:22:15 lol Jan 14 02:22:20 i'd watch Jan 14 02:22:24 * nachox beats Squall` Jan 14 02:22:35 why not Jan 14 02:22:48 um... because nachox uses it :X Jan 14 02:22:50 apparently Jan 14 02:22:52 <-- ReKleSS has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 02:22:56 I use it Jan 14 02:23:06 The latest version is sweeeeet Jan 14 02:23:10 <-- h|barbobot has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 02:23:11 <^Jenn> stifflers moms mouth is too ugly Jan 14 02:23:13 hey ppl Jan 14 02:23:14 yeah, and you also use you-know-what, so what's the point? Jan 14 02:23:15 <^Jenn> have to bag her Jan 14 02:23:23 larry_lumbo, use your fav text editeur Jan 14 02:23:24 LOL! Jan 14 02:23:28 anyone knows how can i mount .mdf image in linux ? Jan 14 02:23:28 Squall`, use-know-what? Jan 14 02:23:32 nachox: how do i get it in my fluxbox menu Jan 14 02:23:33 Squall`, heh Jan 14 02:23:37 <^Jenn> =) Jan 14 02:23:41 I don't know what Jan 14 02:23:50 I use alot of stuff...gnomad2..a P3 Jan 14 02:23:51 --> ReKleSS (~rekless@nat20.cyber.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:23:53 much better Jan 14 02:23:58 larry_lumbo, i dont know what you mean Jan 14 02:23:59 i think she has lip implants Jan 14 02:24:01 Firefox... Jan 14 02:24:05 <^Jenn> colegen Jan 14 02:24:06 whoaaaaa Jan 14 02:24:09 oh Jan 14 02:24:13 <-- Squall` has quit ("-`") Jan 14 02:24:13 lucy liu is on there Jan 14 02:24:22 <-- craig_ has quit (Connection reset by peer) Jan 14 02:24:25 <^Jenn> shes annoying Jan 14 02:24:44 like when i go into terminals i see xterm gnome-terminal Jan 14 02:25:06 * W|GG-Laptop wonders if she's done a Maxim spread yet Jan 14 02:25:08 larry_lumbo, you want to edit the menu? Jan 14 02:25:30 yes i believe so Jan 14 02:25:31 * straterra buys a Maxim Jan 14 02:25:36 --> jnx_ (~jnx@marvin.ynet.sk) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:25:46 ~./fluxbox/menu ? Jan 14 02:25:53 larry_lumbo, edit ~/.fluxbox/menu (i think thats the file not sure) Jan 14 02:25:54 Yes Jan 14 02:26:00 larry_lumbo, it should be smwh in ~/.flux... whatever Jan 14 02:26:02 <-- aD0_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 02:26:03 --> aD0 (~zero@adsl-64-166-87-127.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:26:06 * Squall`` buys a Linux magazine! i'm super cool and get all the chicks! Jan 14 02:26:09 ah, found the problem... misconfigured udev Jan 14 02:26:10 Or fluxmenu if you want GUI Jan 14 02:26:11 <-- jnx has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 02:26:26 larry_lumbo, im not sure avout the exact location, but menu is the file to edit Jan 14 02:26:34 --> rh0` (~rolando@205.241.35.189) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:26:48 okay that is right thank you Jan 14 02:26:49 *about Jan 14 02:26:49 --> rolando_ (~rolando@205.241.35.189) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:26:53 <^Jenn> i got ice cream and you dont phtpthpthpth Jan 14 02:26:53 <-- rolando_ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 02:27:15 ^Jenn, you got colegen? hehehe Jan 14 02:27:21 ^Jenn, i'm lactose intolerant Jan 14 02:27:33 <^Jenn> so am i Squall`` Jan 14 02:27:34 <^Jenn> lol Jan 14 02:27:38 <^Jenn> no W|GG-Laptop Jan 14 02:27:38 lofl Jan 14 02:27:42 doh...i got ice cream...thanks for reminding me Jan 14 02:27:42 <^Jenn> lol my lips are real Jan 14 02:27:46 ouch, thats a pita Jan 14 02:27:56 <-- ReKleSS has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 02:28:15 <^Jenn> yea but mines a 2.00 cone from the store with nuts and chocolate and a chocolate bottom in the coneeeeee Jan 14 02:28:25 * nachox kills W|GG-Laptop and eats the ice cream Jan 14 02:28:27 <^Jenn> so im kewler Jan 14 02:28:46 i already got nuts Jan 14 02:29:10 <^Jenn> would never know it..you keep em in yer mommas purse lol Jan 14 02:29:12 <^Jenn> j/k lol Jan 14 02:29:14 i wonder if i can make a shake and add some baileys Jan 14 02:29:19 dayam Jan 14 02:29:19 <^Jenn> ewww Jan 14 02:29:21 lol Jan 14 02:29:31 oh hell yes i did it.. correct at that Jan 14 02:29:47 --> three_11 (~three_11@69-163-15-87.kntnny.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:29:54 <-- InphraRed has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 02:29:54 --> InphraRed (~admin@adsl-63-204-104-176.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:29:57 W|GG-Laptop: amaretto is good in a shake. Jan 14 02:30:02 <^Jenn> i have a glass of rum & coke but its makin my arms go numb so im laying off a bit lol Jan 14 02:30:17 <^Jenn> oo0o0o0 get some dooleys! Jan 14 02:30:20 really? i would've never thought of adding amaretto Jan 14 02:30:41 <^Jenn> dooleys would be awesome in a shake Jan 14 02:30:48 <^Jenn> dooleys would be good in anything Jan 14 02:31:20 <-- kossy (k0s@connection.refused.us) has left ##slackware Jan 14 02:31:28 hell, i haven't eaten yet Jan 14 02:31:39 <^Jenn> i had pizza!!!!!!!!!! Jan 14 02:31:42 i gotta eat food before ice cream or i'll bounce off the walls Jan 14 02:31:43 I'm getting a new router tommorrow Jan 14 02:31:45 * straterra dances Jan 14 02:31:47 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:31:58 A new Linksys Wireless B router for $10.. Jan 14 02:31:58 which one Jan 14 02:32:00 my wife cooked a filipino dish Jan 14 02:32:02 * straterra dances some more Jan 14 02:32:06 what's /etc/rc.d/init.d/iptables restart in slack? :S Jan 14 02:32:19 <^Jenn> yer wife filipino? Jan 14 02:32:22 yeah Jan 14 02:32:25 <^Jenn> she ever make sticky rice? Jan 14 02:32:27 nullvalue, you make your own script in /etc/rc.d Jan 14 02:32:38 <^Jenn> i work with alot of filipino ppl...make the best food Jan 14 02:32:53 no...we usually go to the asian store and buy it already made...lol Jan 14 02:32:59 <^Jenn> lol Jan 14 02:33:16 <^Jenn> its a little too sweet for me but theres a few other things she brings in i like Jan 14 02:33:21 <-- Epidemic1l has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 02:33:25 her mom knows how to make it though...everytime i go to the inlaws, i gain like 10 lbs Jan 14 02:33:37 <^Jenn> lol yea they dont play around Jan 14 02:34:01 --> ReKleSS (~rek@nat20.cyber.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:34:03 --> craig_ (~craig@hlfxns01bbg-142068111203.ns.aliant.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:34:08 --- craig_ is now known as meta-ridley Jan 14 02:34:10 <^Jenn> i work with so many differnt ppl so many ethnicitys i tried more kinds of food in this last yr then all my years combined Jan 14 02:34:27 filipino food is almost like southern food, imo...same fat levels but without the fat, it'd taste like shit Jan 14 02:34:28 and still wont eat my cooking Jan 14 02:34:33 <^Jenn> i do too Jan 14 02:34:56 <^Jenn> one woman brought in vegetable samosis it was so good Jan 14 02:34:59 I know its taboo to talk about, but anyone program win32 in here? I had a quick Question... Jan 14 02:35:09 i try not to pass up asian pacific week Jan 14 02:35:22 erm... can anyone tell me how to make slack 10 change the keymap on boot? Jan 14 02:35:24 Kyle_S: been a real long time ago Jan 14 02:35:46 XGizzmo: well I was wondering why this isn't shutting down my windows box :) InitiateSystemShutdown(NULL,NULL,0,1,0); Jan 14 02:36:04 <^Jenn> most the food is too hot for me like thai food Jan 14 02:36:29 <-- Ava3ar has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 02:36:44 mmmm thai food. Jan 14 02:37:01 --> slowdude (~slowdude@cpe-24-92-103-19.elp.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:37:01 --- nixor sets ban on slowdude!~slowdude@*.elp.rr.com Jan 14 02:37:01 <-- nixor has kicked slowdude from ##slackware (banned:this isn't Pot 101, I asked you to refrain from drug chat and its laws...see me when you're ready to comply with op guidance) Jan 14 02:37:17 i had thai food this past weekend...i can usually bust my gut off of thai food Jan 14 02:37:30 <^Jenn> had kooskoos for the first time yesterday lol think thats spelled wrong? it was not bad..once ya get past the texture Jan 14 02:37:47 couscous... umm. Jan 14 02:37:48 I think. Jan 14 02:37:51 <^Jenn> yea that Jan 14 02:37:56 * Kyle_S loves the texture of it actually. Jan 14 02:38:01 you're right though...gotta pick your battles with thai food....the spicy stuff can burn fire itself Jan 14 02:38:06 Kyle_S: i dont know it looks right Jan 14 02:38:08 <^Jenn> yea Jan 14 02:38:13 --> Gartt_ (~brian@ip68-14-81-92.ri.ri.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:38:20 you like thai tea? Jan 14 02:38:21 XGizzmo: Hrummm. Jan 14 02:38:23 <-- snarf has quit (Success) Jan 14 02:38:39 and still wont eat my cooking Jan 14 02:38:41 just saw that Jan 14 02:38:42 lol Jan 14 02:38:58 <^Jenn> went to mandarin on new years and didnt have the balls to try the green stuff... wasabi? Jan 14 02:39:01 <^Jenn> lol Jan 14 02:39:08 <^Jenn> i do too eat his cooking Jan 14 02:39:29 lol Jan 14 02:39:44 <^Jenn> im picky i cant help it Jan 14 02:39:58 <-- odraude has quit () Jan 14 02:40:03 a bit of carbon isn't bad Jan 14 02:40:04 lol Jan 14 02:40:19 Kyle_S: what OS? Jan 14 02:40:22 oh man, wasabi will burn nose hair Jan 14 02:40:23 asian food here consists of a buffet, they dont know real good chezuan or cantonese food here Jan 14 02:40:31 Eterm is nice Jan 14 02:40:32 <^Jenn> i grew up eating like 5 different meals...once i met him i startted eating much different things... i used to be way worse Jan 14 02:40:54 <^Jenn> oatmeal had wasabi on some sushi Jan 14 02:40:54 <^Jenn> lol Jan 14 02:40:59 i eat people Jan 14 02:41:06 XGizzmo: win2k pro. But I want it to work on as many windos boxes as possible. Jan 14 02:41:16 XGizzmo: And I'm compiling it with mingw. Jan 14 02:41:27 <^Jenn> aint no mexican restaurants around here either Jan 14 02:41:36 <^Jenn> less ya wanna take a 40 minutes train ride and walk ab it Jan 14 02:41:42 werd on the no burritos Jan 14 02:41:54 yeah, when i eat wasabi, my wife always laughs...says everytime i eat food with wasabi, my nostrils flare Jan 14 02:41:55 XGizzmo: with ExitWindowsEx I can get it to force-quit all applications and logout, but no reboot. Jan 14 02:41:56 Kyle_S: better use ExitWindowEx Jan 14 02:41:59 or shut down. Jan 14 02:42:03 Heh. Jan 14 02:42:05 <-- Squall`` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 02:42:08 * Kyle_S will try harder. Jan 14 02:42:13 <^Jenn> must be lovely eating across from you lol Jan 14 02:42:39 Kyle_S: maybe this will help http://www.codersource.net/mfc_shutdown_timer.html Jan 14 02:43:16 <-- ReKleSS has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 02:43:21 <-- Tw33Ty has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 02:43:22 lol Jan 14 02:43:26 <^Jenn> W|GG-Laptop you like gritts? Jan 14 02:43:48 oh yeah...born and raised off grits Jan 14 02:43:54 <^Jenn> bleck Jan 14 02:43:54 please, he dont know nothin bout no soul food Jan 14 02:44:02 my kids love grits too Jan 14 02:44:05 XGizzmo: Ooh thanks. BTW with these ms predefined constants like dwTimeout and bForceAppsClosed, think you just binary or them togeather? Jan 14 02:44:34 oatmeal, lol Jan 14 02:44:40 <^Jenn> it reminds me too much of the time i did a face plant and ate sand for a week Jan 14 02:44:48 lol Jan 14 02:44:56 --- Rasta|Ganja is now known as Rasta Jan 14 02:45:12 XGizzmo: sorry predefined variables like EWX_LOGOFF EWX_LOGOFF and such ;) was copy and pasting off of the wrong page. Jan 14 02:45:21 someone cooked me some grits once and it was undercooked....it was JUST LIKE SAND Jan 14 02:45:33 <^Jenn> yea aint no way ima eat that crap Jan 14 02:45:36 what are grits Jan 14 02:45:41 Kyle_S: i would think so Jan 14 02:45:42 sounds like a tasty treat Jan 14 02:45:42 <^Jenn> grits are sand Jan 14 02:45:43 i could have cleaned my truck's tires with that bowl Jan 14 02:45:43 <^Jenn> lol Jan 14 02:45:57 corn bread, catfish, collard greens, sweet potatoe pie........mmmmmmmmmm ^Jenn s mom looks at me stupid everytime i mention a sweet potatoe Jan 14 02:45:57 <^Jenn> fish and gritts Jan 14 02:46:10 XGizzmo: cool Jan 14 02:46:41 oatmeal, dayam...you're making me hungry!! Jan 14 02:46:42 where you from W|GG-Laptop ?? Jan 14 02:46:50 oatmeal, north carolina Jan 14 02:46:54 you say potatoe she says pototoe Jan 14 02:47:00 deeeeep in the woods Jan 14 02:47:08 white people are oddities there Jan 14 02:47:09 lol Jan 14 02:47:09 <^Jenn> no my mom dont think a tatoe should be orange inside lol Jan 14 02:47:11 please, your a yankee Jan 14 02:47:22 <^Jenn> lol@white people Jan 14 02:47:34 <^Jenn> im as honkey as they come Jan 14 02:47:41 i stopped visiting my relatives when they kept saying i had "white babies" Jan 14 02:47:45 ignorant people Jan 14 02:47:51 werd! Jan 14 02:47:56 Whuu, you can't be white and eat catfish cornbread and greens? Jan 14 02:48:02 lol Jan 14 02:48:04 * Kyle_S frowns. I grew up on that stuff. Jan 14 02:48:20 * Kyle_S checks his picture on the ##slackware site. Jan 14 02:48:29 well, my people are dark so my daughters stick out when visiting Jan 14 02:48:52 Kyle_S, lol Jan 14 02:49:02 <^Jenn> you arent too dark tho..from yer pics anyways Jan 14 02:49:06 --> Cirkit (~linux_pen@c-24-10-108-132.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:49:11 W|GG-Laptop: your not "dark" Jan 14 02:49:17 <-- nachox has quit ("cya") Jan 14 02:49:33 that's because my dad is very light Jan 14 02:49:40 <^Jenn> <---casper white Jan 14 02:49:41 <^Jenn> lol Jan 14 02:49:53 lol Jan 14 02:49:55 ^Jenn: snowwhite Jan 14 02:49:56 i have a CRT tan going...does that count? Jan 14 02:49:59 im color blind anyway Jan 14 02:50:16 <^Jenn> nah milk white lol Jan 14 02:50:40 <-- chrismo has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 02:50:45 can i use screen in four different eterms at once? Jan 14 02:50:53 acidkill yeah, we're all the same color with enough monitor burn Jan 14 02:51:00 the day after my first daughter was born, i went back to the hospital to visit and they were feeding my daughter at the reception desk. i told them that she was my daughter and they thought i was joking Jan 14 02:51:05 ^Jenn: look at the pic of me on the ugly mugs gallery. thats as dark as I can get. Jan 14 02:51:06 ezrafree sure Jan 14 02:51:15 <^Jenn> k Jan 14 02:51:16 Zalamander: how would i name them each? Jan 14 02:51:28 <^Jenn> W|GG-Laptop did you go ghetto on they ass? Jan 14 02:51:29 W|GG-Laptop: did ya slap em? Jan 14 02:51:31 ezrafree I don't understand what it is you want to achieve Jan 14 02:51:32 i've been reading the screen man page but for some reason it isn't jumping out at me... Jan 14 02:51:41 i had to show my ID Jan 14 02:51:42 lol Jan 14 02:51:46 <^Jenn> wow Jan 14 02:51:57 i had to show id when my son was born too Jan 14 02:52:05 which is cool Jan 14 02:52:13 oatmeal yeah, but in your case you're a wanted felon!@! Jan 14 02:52:13 yeah, true Jan 14 02:52:14 Zalamander: well, on my desktop at home i have four different Eterm windows i keep opened, in each of them i log in to my server and run an irc client Jan 14 02:52:36 <-- Neurotoxin has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 02:52:37 they just looked at me and said "yeah, right" Jan 14 02:52:38 ezrafree ok, I get that much so far Jan 14 02:52:42 Zalamander: wasnt the man i was showin my id to Jan 14 02:53:05 Zalamander: well i want to run screen in each window, so that when the window closes for some reason i can resume my session again Jan 14 02:53:15 <^Jenn> Kyle_S you call that dark? lol Jan 14 02:53:18 or say, if my internet connection dies for isntance Jan 14 02:53:46 W|GG-Laptop: that aint nothin, i had my boy on lock down, i requesated a list of people allowed to see him, and guess how many made the list? Jan 14 02:53:48 chemlight white? Jan 14 02:53:53 ezrafree I see, so you want to be able to reconnect to the one that died specifically. Well, if you type screen -r, it will automatically resume the one that died, or show you a list of names if there is more than one. Jan 14 02:54:06 oatmeal, how many? Jan 14 02:54:10 2 Jan 14 02:54:10 Zalamander: ahhh i get it :) Jan 14 02:54:18 thanks Zalamander Jan 14 02:54:22 no problem :-) Jan 14 02:54:24 brb lemme try this out :) Jan 14 02:54:26 <-- ezrafree has quit ("BitchX: you'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel") Jan 14 02:54:32 --> ThEcHaCaL (~ThEcHaCaL@host197.o.digizap.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:54:35 oatmeal, dayam Jan 14 02:54:39 <-- Gartt has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 02:54:39 heh.. X using 448MB, firefox using 472MB, and xmms is using 213MB. Jan 14 02:54:51 xmms should be taken out back of the shed and beaten. Jan 14 02:55:02 --> keanne (~riken@mnc04.mei.co.jp) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:55:02 <-- UZY (~jack@200-103-150-114.ctame7041.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has left ##slackware Jan 14 02:55:09 --> UZY (~jack@200-103-150-114.ctame7041.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:55:15 acidkill either you're reading that incorrectly, or you have some serious memory leaks Jan 14 02:55:23 <^Jenn> how many kids you have W|GG-Laptop? Jan 14 02:55:23 werd Jan 14 02:55:24 very serious Jan 14 02:55:30 2 girls Jan 14 02:55:32 its virtual memory... lol. Jan 14 02:55:37 you guys? Jan 14 02:55:43 <^Jenn> ahh yer outnumbered by estrogen Jan 14 02:55:47 <-- Kurt has quit ("Given a sufficiently strong spring, any Maglite battery compartment cover is impossible to close.") Jan 14 02:56:06 <^Jenn> i have a step son and daughter Jan 14 02:56:15 ^Jenn, yep but there's alot of testosterone here too...hehe Jan 14 02:56:18 i'm the king! Jan 14 02:56:20 <^Jenn> lol Jan 14 02:56:26 <^Jenn> yea wait till they turn 14 Jan 14 02:56:38 <^Jenn> wait till the pms hits Jan 14 02:56:39 <^Jenn> LOL Jan 14 02:56:39 13/14 year olds are annoying Jan 14 02:56:46 especially siblings :) Jan 14 02:56:47 no worries, i practice the shoe method Jan 14 02:56:52 hehe...they can have their pms...if they don't tame it, they won't date Jan 14 02:56:56 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:57:17 <^Jenn> girls dont needa date Jan 14 02:57:19 you know what the shoe method is? Jan 14 02:57:25 <^Jenn> they get enuff attention at school Jan 14 02:57:37 not if its an all-girl school Jan 14 02:57:38 * acidkill can see W|GG-Laptop now... 'no boys untill you turn 35!!' =) Jan 14 02:57:44 <-- war- has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 02:57:46 well that seemed to have worked Jan 14 02:57:48 <^Jenn> youd be surprised lol Jan 14 02:57:48 ack Jan 14 02:57:52 except that the letters are disappearing as i type them lol Jan 14 02:57:56 BitchX bug maybe? it works fine in epic Jan 14 02:57:57 dating is a nightmare invented by sadists. Girls and boys should just hook up with their *friends* Jan 14 02:57:59 i know just what to tell the first boy that comes to the house Jan 14 02:58:16 W|GG-Laptop: and what is that Jan 14 02:58:22 <^Jenn> lmao my brother played that role with me...my dad had no clue Jan 14 02:58:27 oops, I meant IMO Jan 14 02:58:44 ^Jenn: I don't call it dark, I call that as dark as I can get. Jan 14 02:58:47 i'm gonna have a bullet in my hand and throw it at him and hit him in the chest...then i'm gonna say "you better take care of my daughter or the next one will come alot faster" Jan 14 02:59:01 LOL!! Jan 14 02:59:01 --> dadexter (~dadexter@modemcable032.0-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:59:01 nice one Jan 14 02:59:08 back in a bit Jan 14 02:59:10 <-- ezrafree has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 02:59:36 <^Jenn> my bro threatened the first guy i held hands with in grade 4 and he was scared to talk to me.... when i met oatmeal b4 him and my bro met my bro was talkin smack like hes gunna make sure he knows his place...till the day they met and oatmeal is like a foot taller.... my bro never said a word LOL Jan 14 02:59:45 W|GG-Laptop: that one is lost on "thugs" i got a story for you though Jan 14 02:59:57 --> quittt (HkdNorU@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 02:59:59 hi Jan 14 03:00:02 <^Jenn> huh Kyle_S? Jan 14 03:00:19 I cant burn with my cdrw at full 16x Jan 14 03:00:26 I can only burn in 4x... Jan 14 03:00:28 <^Jenn> ohhh yer skin pigmentation lol Jan 14 03:00:31 ^Jenn, lol...that's called survival of the fittest...if that boy got punked out by your brother, then you prolly didn't want him anyways :oP Jan 14 03:00:33 <^Jenn> gotcha Jan 14 03:00:36 is it a motherboard limitation?? Jan 14 03:00:55 <^Jenn> W|GG-Laptop i was like 10 lol Jan 14 03:01:00 lol Jan 14 03:01:04 <-- dwolf has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 03:01:05 <-- toshin has quit ("-") Jan 14 03:01:07 <-- mmu_man has quit ("Vision[0.9.6-0203]: i've been blurred!") Jan 14 03:01:11 good point Jan 14 03:01:34 W|GG-Laptop: I'm just gonna meet 'em at the door with a sawed off double barrel cradled in my arms. Jan 14 03:01:50 my sons aunts father is of a "predominant" motor cycle club in detroit, he didnt like said aunts boyfriend so much, so he arranged a lunch with him, complete with mac-10 and all, needless to say.................. she got preggers by 4 dudes other than that guy Jan 14 03:01:52 lol Jan 14 03:02:05 <^Jenn> W|GG-Laptop is gunna be jack from meet the fockers Jan 14 03:02:25 FriedBob, that's what my granddad did to my father when he took my mom on the first date...had a shotgun in his lap on the porch Jan 14 03:02:59 werd, pistol grip pump on my left at all times Jan 14 03:03:02 W|GG-Laptop: My current GF's dad did that to some one who was taking her out once. Met him at the door with a 12 gauge. Jan 14 03:03:22 She even told the guy he was gonna do it, ahead of time. Jan 14 03:03:23 http://pastebin.com/228664 what am i doing wrong Jan 14 03:03:36 how do I see my cdrw burning time? Jan 14 03:03:40 I mean Jan 14 03:03:46 FriedBob, now that's love for ya Jan 14 03:03:48 it is 12x or 6x Jan 14 03:03:51 how do I see it? Jan 14 03:03:55 i don't think i loved a girl that much Jan 14 03:03:56 lol Jan 14 03:03:58 look at it Jan 14 03:04:06 --> _SiegeX (1000@adsl-67-122-204-69.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:04:24 Destructo: I think that tarball is corrupt Jan 14 03:04:33 yeah i thik so too Jan 14 03:04:35 Destructo, tar -jxvf Jan 14 03:04:36 W|GG-Laptop: It was a blind date, and there was another guy with him at the time. The person who was sposed to take my girl out, made the other guy go first when they got to her hjouse. Jan 14 03:04:43 --> Epidemic1l (~mmelin@c-3c3be253.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:04:56 <^Jenn> did he crap himself? Jan 14 03:04:59 FriedBob, LOL! Jan 14 03:05:21 bubba_ same error Jan 14 03:05:28 bubba_: the - doesn't matter Jan 14 03:05:53 16X CD-R, 10X CD-RW Jan 14 03:05:57 what does it mean? Jan 14 03:06:14 Destructo, try bzip2 -d file.bz2, then tar -xvf file.tar Jan 14 03:06:29 time to get some good eatins Jan 14 03:06:31 bbiab Jan 14 03:06:36 thats not cool really, i mean its fun to say, but you need to be your kids friend more than anything, cuz all that fright shit only makes them hide the shit they gonna do anyway Jan 14 03:06:38 Destructo: you sure the file is not damaged? Jan 14 03:06:53 i thnk it is.. so im trying another mirror Jan 14 03:06:56 raindog, aparently the j not being first doesnt matter either. Jan 14 03:07:54 <-- jmedina has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 03:08:03 bubba_: right, the only order that matters in the sequence is that the filename must immediately follow the "f" Jan 14 03:09:37 Im not sure why, but ive had compressed archives, that did require uncompressing first, then untarring... I couldnt figure out why... Jan 14 03:10:06 bubba_: I've seen that too... :-\ Jan 14 03:10:12 It used to be cool to remember all the arcane idiosyncrasies of the various command line tools in Unix/Linux. Now, after doing this business for 10+ years, I am finding it to be rather annoying. :-\ Jan 14 03:10:15 <-- quittt has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 03:10:29 what port do you guys use .. because 6881 i get NAT eror\ Jan 14 03:10:38 for bitttorent Jan 14 03:10:47 yay i forgot how to setup ati's radeon drivers Jan 14 03:10:53 --> lab_rat (~Lab_Rat@205-178-43-169.s423.tnt1.sfrn.ca.dialup.rcn.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:11:31 --> ReKleSS (~ReKleSS@nat20.cyber.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:11:52 meta-ridley, tell me... I need to do that. Ive compiled the kernle with that radeo support... but I will want to be able to run both a monitor, and the tv out. I figure i'll have to fuss with it a lot :( Jan 14 03:12:22 aren't there some open source drivers now as well taht support opengl? Jan 14 03:12:24 I gave up on my radeon tv out Jan 14 03:12:31 err sorry support dri Jan 14 03:12:47 I was happy just getting dri going in X Jan 14 03:13:28 from what Ive read, you should be able to run x on both the tv, and the monitor... I figure multimedia stuff (movies, tv, ...) would look better on the tv... Jan 14 03:13:29 ahh there we go i think i got dri working Jan 14 03:14:30 Im going to try out some of the new bootable distro's tonite at a linux meeting... any suggestions? Jan 14 03:14:42 slax Jan 14 03:14:53 hmm Jan 14 03:14:55 mozilla broke Jan 14 03:15:03 pclinux looks cool Jan 14 03:15:05 <-- Epidemical has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 03:15:08 it gets to the splash screen, then just sits there... Jan 14 03:15:23 I have slak on a hard disk in the computer... I'll probably end up running slack... but I want to try some new stuff on new hardware. Jan 14 03:18:48 heh... a friend of mine setup xandros for his wife... it was easy, but it sounds pretty sucky... Jan 14 03:22:22 <-- lab_rat has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 03:23:08 hey any azerous torrent users here .. ? Jan 14 03:23:34 <-- Zalamander has quit ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") Jan 14 03:25:42 --> mwMepis (~tman@CPE-24-166-178-183.kc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:26:24 Hello people. Trying to dual boot two linux systems with Grub with no luck. Can someone lend a hand? Jan 14 03:27:15 slackware comes with lilo and its very easy Jan 14 03:27:52 I'm using Mepis for my main with Slackware on a second hard drive (hdc). Jan 14 03:28:44 I have grub for my boot loader. I've check man pages, tutorials, etc... but still no luck. Jan 14 03:29:16 <-- SuperGear has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 03:30:06 just copy slack kernel over nto boot... and edit grub.conf to point it in second entry to it... Jan 14 03:30:07 Destructo, i use btlaunchmanycurses.py ;) Jan 14 03:30:16 The error I get is 'Error 13: invalid or unsupported executable format' or something to that affect. Jan 14 03:30:24 s/nto /into \// Jan 14 03:31:03 grub is too much for me Jan 14 03:31:15 soon it'll become like EmacsOS :p Jan 14 03:31:18 GrubOS Jan 14 03:32:47 FattatOSs Jan 14 03:32:47 --> bearry (~bhando@S0106004005c5f406.wp.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:32:53 So copying my kernal and system.map files over to my main boot partition will let it boot the second hard drive? Jan 14 03:33:06 <-- bearry (~bhando@S0106004005c5f406.wp.shawcable.net) has left ##slackware Jan 14 03:33:32 just kernel... no real need for system.map Jan 14 03:33:53 --- MacGuyver is now known as MacGuyver_ Jan 14 03:34:03 like i said... edit grub conf... take the default entry as a template Jan 14 03:34:13 k... Jan 14 03:34:31 <-- SiegeX has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 03:34:40 you must edit/fix path to the kernel and prolly root= param Jan 14 03:35:50 Here's what the kernel line looks like: Jan 14 03:35:54 kernel (hd1,0)/boot/vmlinuz-ide-2.4.26 root=/dev/hdc1 Jan 14 03:36:16 Does that look correct? Jan 14 03:36:59 is enlightenment fairly lightweight? Jan 14 03:37:02 anyone here use it? Jan 14 03:37:25 <-- raindog has quit ("Let's blow this taco stand!") Jan 14 03:37:54 E is fairly lightweight by todays standards Jan 14 03:38:24 * d_low remembers when E was one of the slowest window managers Jan 14 03:38:35 mwMepis, not sure about (hd1,0) part... is your boot located on hdb1 ? Jan 14 03:38:36 meta-ridley: what kind of machine are you looking to run this on? Jan 14 03:38:48 --> chibo (~chibo@ip24-251-64-19.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:38:51 <-- ximpul has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 03:38:54 --> ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:38:56 d_low: a sempron 2600 with 512 ram :) Jan 14 03:39:06 ohh thats more than enough Jan 14 03:39:08 just wondering.. i like the quickness of fluxbox, sometimes it urks me though Jan 14 03:39:12 --> Lurkan (~Lurkan@201.135.159.181) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:39:16 ok, what is going on here Jan 14 03:39:21 well E is a very different window manager Jan 14 03:39:22 root has no password set Jan 14 03:39:28 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:39:28 i type root at the login prompt Jan 14 03:39:32 takes a good bit of configuration to get it the way you want Jan 14 03:39:38 hit enter, and it just throws me back to a new prompt Jan 14 03:39:51 login as a normal user and su Jan 14 03:40:03 there are no normal users Jan 14 03:40:18 do you know what may have caused this? Jan 14 03:40:22 nope Jan 14 03:40:24 it appears root doesnt have a shell Jan 14 03:40:31 --> SuperGear (~supergear@c-24-9-154-178.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:40:51 so you type "login: root" hit enter and you dont get a "password: " line? Jan 14 03:41:01 sladegen, my grub installation is on hda using Mepis and my slackware is on my 2nd hard drive (hdc). Jan 14 03:41:11 nope Jan 14 03:41:17 right back to login Jan 14 03:41:20 ang: very odd, new install? Jan 14 03:41:38 yes, it's an install of an alpha port of slackware Jan 14 03:41:39 d_low, heh... I upgraded E to the .17 package on linuxpackages, didnt like it, tried to go back, now e16 wont work! so I had to re-install 17! Jan 14 03:41:59 d_low, but .17 is better than kde or something... Jan 14 03:42:04 ang: ohh an alpha port... that may be the cause for the odd ness. Anyways, do you know how chroot works? Jan 14 03:42:35 alpha port as in DEC Alpha :) Jan 14 03:42:40 --> sfrong (~sfrong@ip68-111-89-8.oc.oc.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:42:48 ang: lol, i know what an alpha is ;) Jan 14 03:42:59 --> DarkTide_ (~nerd@dialup-4.156.102.92.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:43:05 whats the easyest way to burn mp3s to a CD as CDDA? Jan 14 03:43:14 Can somebody help me set up my wireless pcmcia card? I've installed ndiswrapper and the drivers for it, but the power light won't even turn on. Jan 14 03:43:16 mp32wav? Jan 14 03:43:33 I'm pretty sure that all the networking end stuff is okay, it's just that something might not be working with PCMCIA Jan 14 03:44:07 Is there anyway I can tell whether the system knows that the card is plugged in or not? Jan 14 03:44:15 OhMyAchinLap useless :0 Jan 14 03:44:54 imtrying to open ports but in azureus i get NAT error Jan 14 03:45:07 acidkill, easiest? k3b then Jan 14 03:45:10 heh, looks like k3b can do it. lol. Jan 14 03:45:13 <-- jabooty has quit ("[BX] "I did not have sexual relations with that client, BitchX."") Jan 14 03:46:08 --> douglas (~douglas@200.149.180.169) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:46:19 <-- douglas (~douglas@200.149.180.169) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 14 03:48:24 <-- ThEcHaCaL has quit ("Fui!") Jan 14 03:48:27 <-- sunbx has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 03:49:04 --> ab20lut3_z3r0 (1000@host81-155-101-88.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:49:43 <-- blackhat-- has quit ("kill -9 irc -.-") Jan 14 03:49:48 --> nologo (~nologo@Toronto-HSE-ppp3740019.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:50:01 <-- ab20lut3_z3r0 (1000@host81-155-101-88.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 14 03:51:38 --> Epidemical (~mmelin@c-3c3be253.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:51:50 <-- JackaLX has quit ("[BX] Chester Cheeta uses BitchX. Ayeuhayueuhayueuh!") Jan 14 03:51:58 even booting in to single user mode gives the same problem Jan 14 03:52:04 Destructo, works really well for me, i run it in screen :) Jan 14 03:52:25 m ports Jan 14 03:53:00 --> Neurotoxin (1001@nc-65-40-164-133.sta.sprint-hsd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:53:22 <-- mwMepis (~tman@CPE-24-166-178-183.kc.rr.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 14 03:54:09 --> JackaLX (~steve@JackaLX.project-lead.sxemacs) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:55:42 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:55:45 anyone know which package would have the xlibs? Jan 14 03:56:06 x11-6.8.1-i486-2.tgz? Jan 14 03:56:17 x11-devel-6.8.1-i486-2.tgz? Jan 14 03:56:21 <-- debd00d has quit ("buttfuck me once, shame on you, buttfuck me twice, shame on me") Jan 14 03:58:42 acidkill: k3b works pretty nice Jan 14 03:58:51 indeed it does. im seeing that now. Jan 14 03:58:53 --> Epidemic2l (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:58:55 k3b works pretty well Jan 14 03:58:56 --> sanish (~sp@CPE0004e23a0211-CM014500115762.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:58:58 <-- thr1ce has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 14 03:59:02 i never bothered to look at what it does, i just usually burn ISOs. Jan 14 03:59:07 --> thr1ce (~andrew@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 03:59:11 k3b works pretty well Jan 14 03:59:35 i have a stack of 50 linux distro and *BSD CDs. Jan 14 03:59:59 and more that are just laying, but they have been reburned as upgrades have been released. Jan 14 04:00:01 --> althalus (~althalus@c-67-170-176-30.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:00:05 a soomeone help me stup my network card on slack 10 Jan 14 04:00:07 acidkill: only 50 Jan 14 04:00:09 hm...my irssi isn't scrolling properly Jan 14 04:00:14 <-- d_low has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 04:00:15 sanish: did you run netconfig? Jan 14 04:00:20 XGizzmo: i just got a burner for xmas. =( Jan 14 04:00:24 --> debd00d (~bacardi@c-24-19-219-0.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:00:29 no Jan 14 04:00:49 --> d_low (~d_low@dlow-00000001.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:00:54 i will Jan 14 04:01:04 can you run linux on a GBA? Jan 14 04:01:16 * acidkill remembers something about that... Jan 14 04:01:31 acidkill: i think they made a version for GBA Jan 14 04:02:06 i know they've been working on it Jan 14 04:02:36 --> Xyaon (~Xyaon@clt-84-32-46-199.ktv.lt) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:02:50 http://linux.gbadev.org/ Jan 14 04:03:17 <-- DarkTide has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 04:03:35 <-- Epidemic1l has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 04:04:24 after netconfig is a reboot needed? Jan 14 04:04:31 <-- Destructo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 04:04:44 no Jan 14 04:04:51 oh wait, i was thinking of the dual screen gameboy or whatever Jan 14 04:04:59 GBA has had it for a while Jan 14 04:05:17 afterstep = aterm ? Jan 14 04:05:37 think so Jan 14 04:05:41 you can get aterm on its own though Jan 14 04:05:52 any idea where? I can only find afterstep Jan 14 04:06:06 nevermind Jan 14 04:06:06 got it Jan 14 04:07:14 <-- Epidemical has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 04:08:10 <-- sfrong has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 04:09:50 --- nixor removes ban on *!0@* Jan 14 04:10:10 --> tepus6 (1000@pool-141-150-218-213.delv.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:10:54 <-- thr1ce has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 14 04:11:09 can someone help me, im trying to setup my network crd Jan 14 04:11:09 can i compile by hand a program built for debian redhat etc??? Jan 14 04:11:53 --> thr1ce (~andrew@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:12:09 <-- thr1ce has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 04:12:16 Just get the source package for it Jan 14 04:12:26 --> rOgeR_uRiCk (~uRicK@200227057098-dial-user-ECP.acessonet.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:12:34 hello guys Jan 14 04:13:22 --> michaelks (~michael@201008085001.user.veloxzone.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:13:36 <-- xemon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 04:13:59 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:14:44 --> xemon (~zxemon@65.171.164.98) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:14:57 <^Jenn> http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm Jan 14 04:15:21 .tgz is the sorce code right??? Jan 14 04:16:12 tepus6: No, it's a gzipped tar file. Jan 14 04:16:16 ok Jan 14 04:16:17 --> spenser (~spenser@user-0c8hmse.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:16:25 It may or may not contain source. Jan 14 04:16:39 the only other one they offer is a rpm Jan 14 04:17:43 <-- Cirkit has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 04:18:02 --> e-twin (1000@203-213-127-59-syd-ts20-2600.tpgi.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:18:09 ^Jenn: time to switch to internet 2.0 Jan 14 04:18:09 should i go with the .tgz Jan 14 04:18:31 <^Jenn> lol Jan 14 04:18:46 <^Jenn> something like that Jan 14 04:19:14 <-- express_ has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 14 04:19:24 tepus6: Yes, rpms on slack are bad. Jan 14 04:19:53 k thanks Jan 14 04:19:59 <-- e-twin (1000@203-213-127-59-syd-ts20-2600.tpgi.com.au) has left ##slackware Jan 14 04:20:14 <-- ezrafree has quit (Excess Flood) Jan 14 04:20:18 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:20:20 <-- ezrafree has quit (Excess Flood) Jan 14 04:20:22 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:20:22 <-- ezrafree has quit (Excess Flood) Jan 14 04:20:23 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:20:25 --> express_ (1000@203-213-127-59-syd-ts20-2600.tpgi.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:20:40 --> thr1ce (~andrew@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:21:47 oops Jan 14 04:21:57 durn Jan 14 04:22:11 Anyone know of a plugin for XMMS that plays audio cd's? Jan 14 04:22:25 * thr1ce thought it did by default Jan 14 04:22:34 That is what I though too Jan 14 04:22:46 The plugin that comes with it is enabled, but it won't play a CD Jan 14 04:22:46 <-- tepus6 has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 04:23:13 is there a howto to upgrade to current? Jan 14 04:23:15 :/ Jan 14 04:24:26 dont' mount it Jan 14 04:24:28 --> jackflash (~jf@cpc2-rdng8-4-0-cust187.winn.cable.ntl.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:24:53 I know Jan 14 04:24:59 I'm not mounting it Jan 14 04:25:05 --> lab_rat (~Lab_Rat@205-178-43-169.s423.tnt1.sfrn.ca.dialup.rcn.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:25:19 hm...that's weird Jan 14 04:25:28 I am trying to pass the location of the drive to XMMS Jan 14 04:25:32 /dev/cdroms/cdrom1 Jan 14 04:25:54 hm, that's weird Jan 14 04:27:28 <-- ezrafree has quit ("[A] kill what you want me to, take what's left and eat it") Jan 14 04:27:50 <-- ReKleSS has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 04:28:11 <-- spenser has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 04:28:11 --> DarkTide (~nerd@dialup-4.156.99.125.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:28:13 yeah, playing cds with xmms is quirky Jan 14 04:28:21 it comes with the plugin already Jan 14 04:28:54 How do I get it to work? Jan 14 04:28:54 --> r3z (Uhm@adsl-065-007-146-053.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:28:57 LoL Jan 14 04:29:01 ok, empty your playlist Jan 14 04:29:19 It's empty Jan 14 04:30:08 --> ClamIAm (ClamIAm@199.199.183.169) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:30:24 ok, go to options->preferences Jan 14 04:30:39 --> Putz (~putz@ame-broadband2-ws-60.dsl.airstreamcomm.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:30:55 cd audio player should be listed, make sure it's enabled Jan 14 04:30:56 Ok Jan 14 04:31:12 click configure Jan 14 04:31:20 Ok Jan 14 04:31:27 is device right? Jan 14 04:31:43 mine is /dev/hdc Jan 14 04:31:50 and directory is /mnt/cdrom Jan 14 04:31:54 --> d3ity_ (1000@207.172.254.149) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:31:54 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@207.172.254.149 Jan 14 04:31:55 <-- nixor has kicked d3ity_ from ##slackware (banned: d3ity - perm ban - constant trolling) Jan 14 04:32:02 Oooh, thanks Jan 14 04:32:08 Device wasn't. Jan 14 04:32:11 now do check drive Jan 14 04:32:15 I did Jan 14 04:32:15 make sure that info looks ok Jan 14 04:32:17 <-- DarkTide_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 04:32:19 I does Jan 14 04:32:21 Now what? Jan 14 04:32:54 now go back to the main mms window and hit the eject button, then go to /mnt/cdrom Jan 14 04:32:58 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 04:33:14 <-- SuperGear has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 04:33:17 --> SuperGear (~supergear@c-24-9-154-178.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:33:19 you should see all the tracks Jan 14 04:33:48 --> PuGz (~woodsb02@woodsb02.student.dialup.uwa.edu.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:34:02 Not really Jan 14 04:34:14 I double click on /dev/hdd and it does nothing Jan 14 04:34:16 Wow, that is quirky, but it worked. Jan 14 04:34:26 now go back to the main mms window and hit the eject button, then go to /mnt/cdrom Jan 14 04:34:27 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Ottawa-ppp325045.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:34:31 I did that Jan 14 04:34:38 Wait Jan 14 04:34:38 <-- HeatHawk has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 04:34:39 Haha Jan 14 04:34:39 --> Epidemical (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:34:40 I double click on /dev/hdd and it does nothing Jan 14 04:34:41 No I didn't Jan 14 04:34:45 that's not what i said :) Jan 14 04:34:58 hello slackers... i just moved to slackware last night... and i like it! Jan 14 04:35:03 Ok, I see the tracks Jan 14 04:35:06 can someone point me in the right direction to update my kernal Jan 14 04:35:09 I just select 'em all and play? Jan 14 04:35:10 StarScream: add all files Jan 14 04:35:22 it might take a few seconds while it does the cddb lookup Jan 14 04:35:35 Alright! Jan 14 04:35:36 Thanks Jan 14 04:35:38 PuGz: glad to hear Jan 14 04:35:51 sanish: kernel.org Jan 14 04:36:08 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:36:09 straterra: no problemo Jan 14 04:36:25 <-- ezrafree has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 04:36:30 i just tried to install k3b from a slackware 10 package on their site and it didnt work... the setup works fine, but after it runs for about 2 secs the splash screen disappears and the process stops Jan 14 04:36:37 took me a while to figure it out the first time :) Jan 14 04:36:47 :P Jan 14 04:36:55 i get this error when i run it from a console: Jan 14 04:36:56 k3b: relocation error: k3b: undefined symbol: _ZN11KMainWindow7setIconERK7QPixmap Jan 14 04:37:05 anyone know what that is? Jan 14 04:37:09 PuGz: did you have it previously installed? Jan 14 04:37:15 no Jan 14 04:37:18 PuGz: you didn't use one from the -current dir instead of -slack10, did you Jan 14 04:37:25 dont think so Jan 14 04:37:31 i am pretty sure it was 10 Jan 14 04:37:35 from the /extra dir? Jan 14 04:38:16 is there anyway to tell the info about a downloaded package? Jan 14 04:38:31 --> ZapBrannigan (~ZapBranni@user-12lca9r.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:38:32 does k3b have any dependencies Jan 14 04:38:33 ? Jan 14 04:38:38 <-- sanish has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 04:38:57 hello all ive run inot a weird problem. i was using xchat but now it doesnt connect.. everything else is online.. Jan 14 04:39:04 inot=into Jan 14 04:39:20 PuGz: did you do a full slack install? Jan 14 04:39:28 yes Jan 14 04:39:39 PuGz: removepkg the one you just installed Jan 14 04:39:49 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-216-76-227-186.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:39:50 ok Jan 14 04:39:57 then run this Jan 14 04:40:01 wget ftp://inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu/slackware/slackware-10.0/extra/k3b/k3b-0.11.11-i486-1.tgz Jan 14 04:40:01 aiiight Jan 14 04:40:15 nm. stupid firewall Jan 14 04:40:18 <-- ZapBrannigan (~ZapBranni@user-12lca9r.cable.mindspring.com) has left ##slackware ("Daddy Drinks Because You Cry Alot ..") Jan 14 04:40:19 PuGz: info on d/l packages: /var/log/packages Jan 14 04:40:44 the one i downloaded is k3b-0.11.18-i486-1pcx.tgz Jan 14 04:41:14 well, that wasn't from slackware 10 site then :D Jan 14 04:41:34 no, from the k3b site... it said it was for slackware 10 Jan 14 04:41:37 slackware -current has dependencies that slackware 10 does not Jan 14 04:41:59 oh...hm Jan 14 04:42:03 <-- Roa has quit ("Fuga http://roa.codexploiters.net/index.php") Jan 14 04:42:12 <-- lab_rat has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 04:42:49 that's compiled for kde 3.3.2 Jan 14 04:42:56 damn Jan 14 04:43:07 ok... i am getting the other version now Jan 14 04:43:08 cheers Jan 14 04:43:13 that should work Jan 14 04:43:39 PuGz: it sould be on your install cd Jan 14 04:44:06 (notes that he used a pack from linuxpackages.net) Jan 14 04:44:09 :P Jan 14 04:44:22 really? Jan 14 04:44:23 sweet Jan 14 04:45:03 i am not a big fan of linuxpackages.net Jan 14 04:45:40 --> Destructo (~destructo@pool-68-161-61-190.ny325.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:45:48 --> chodapp (1000@blackbird-day-216-68-113-21.fuse.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:46:17 --> lab_rat (~Lab_Rat@205-178-43-169.s423.tnt1.sfrn.ca.dialup.rcn.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:46:18 <-- Epidemic2l has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 04:47:39 XGizzmo, it isnt on my dvd (i used a dvd from linux format magazine) Jan 14 04:47:53 PuGz: it should be Jan 14 04:47:56 check in /extra Jan 14 04:48:07 it's the same version you just downloaded Jan 14 04:48:09 there is no extra Jan 14 04:48:21 slackware, extra Jan 14 04:48:22 something odd happens with limewire,every now and then it grabs all the cpu,i have to stop it and restart to get back to normal,anyone saw that happen? Jan 14 04:48:27 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:49:09 thr1ce, nope, no /slackware/extra either Jan 14 04:49:22 i just did a search for extra on the cd, and none of them are folders Jan 14 04:49:26 ftp://slackware.mirrors.pair.com/slackware-10.0/extra/k3b Jan 14 04:49:48 PuGz: did you download the one I told you to? Jan 14 04:50:10 soon i will Jan 14 04:50:16 but the address u gave me didnt work Jan 14 04:50:26 i am looking at it right now Jan 14 04:50:26 so i am getting off of the slackware page from v10 now Jan 14 04:50:37 damn... the ftp wasnt happening for me hey! Jan 14 04:51:20 never mind... i am getting it from the planetmirror mirror as i live in aus and its working fine Jan 14 04:51:20 its for slack 10 as well Jan 14 04:51:32 what do you guys think of slapt-get? Jan 14 04:51:44 don't use it Jan 14 04:51:45 is it a waste of time? Jan 14 04:51:49 --- nixor removes ban on slowdude!~slowdude@*.elp.rr.com Jan 14 04:51:53 ehey you guys where can i go in my system to let some ports in .. Jan 14 04:52:00 --> HeatHawk (~kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:52:12 Destructo: look into iptables Jan 14 04:52:22 thr1ce, do u use anything? Jan 14 04:52:22 or just manual? Jan 14 04:52:24 gonna try fedora again, on this lappy Jan 14 04:52:28 Destructo : nowhere. Jan 14 04:52:31 PuGz: manual Jan 14 04:52:41 W|GG-Laptop: noooo! Jan 14 04:52:49 W|GG-Laptop, why would u go there? Jan 14 04:52:56 slack! Jan 14 04:53:03 thr1ce, thats wat i think i am gonna do Jan 14 04:53:10 stick fedora! Jan 14 04:53:16 haha my county made slashdot Jan 14 04:53:17 PuGz: slapt-get and swaret tend to ruin alot of systems Jan 14 04:53:29 only here would such crap be allowed in school in the first place Jan 14 04:53:36 swaret never ruined mine Jan 14 04:53:45 cool Jan 14 04:54:00 i talked to two people today who ruined their boxes Jan 14 04:54:10 how so? Jan 14 04:54:22 it ruined dependencies and wouldn't boot? Jan 14 04:54:47 it has a dependency check Jan 14 04:54:55 <-- Neur0 has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 04:55:38 i did a distro upgrade from 9 to 10 and it went smothly Jan 14 04:55:44 oo Jan 14 04:56:16 --> chrismoh (~chrism@rdlax9-033.dialup.optusnet.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:56:31 It's successful for some, and not for others. I've heard good stuff along with the bad. Jan 14 04:56:57 <-- ezrafree has quit (Excess Flood) Jan 14 04:56:57 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:57:00 <-- ezrafree has quit (Excess Flood) Jan 14 04:57:01 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:57:01 <-- ezrafree has quit (Excess Flood) Jan 14 04:57:02 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:57:14 PuGz, because i get paid to know of such things Jan 14 04:57:24 * W|GG-Laptop is about to put the hammer down on ezrafree Jan 14 04:57:25 --> Rumo (~unknown@200.101.143.225) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 04:57:34 Drop that hammer Jan 14 04:57:47 <^Jenn> make sure its a sledge Jan 14 04:57:55 lol Jan 14 04:58:02 donkey kong hammer Jan 14 04:58:36 <-- ClamIAm has quit () Jan 14 04:58:41 W|GG-Laptop: i take it the fc3 install never did finish? Jan 14 04:58:43 oh no! the princess has escaped again! Jan 14 04:58:51 put in three more quarters to rescue her Jan 14 04:59:01 or never did boot Jan 14 04:59:10 <-- express_ has quit () Jan 14 04:59:17 <-- Rumo (~unknown@200.101.143.225) has left ##slackware Jan 14 04:59:20 how many CD's is FC3? Jan 14 04:59:25 isn't it 4 of all packages? Jan 14 04:59:44 hey thr1ce Jan 14 04:59:51 hey larry_lumbo Jan 14 04:59:54 how's it coming? Jan 14 05:00:01 going good Jan 14 05:00:02 * W|GG-Laptop has a fc3 dvd Jan 14 05:00:12 got eterm installed Jan 14 05:00:15 one disk, full install Jan 14 05:00:17 yes Jan 14 05:00:34 --> sanish (~sp@CPE0004e23a0211-CM014500115762.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 05:00:35 but more packages come on the other 3 cds Jan 14 05:00:47 :P Jan 14 05:00:57 can somone hlp me and point me in the right direction, im trying to update my kernal Jan 14 05:01:02 frm 2.4 Jan 14 05:01:05 PuGz, i said DVD Jan 14 05:01:05 kernel.org Jan 14 05:01:18 4.2gb vs 650/700/800mb Jan 14 05:01:19 thr1ce, i, there now, it doesnt give much help Jan 14 05:01:24 oh Jan 14 05:01:57 sanish: there is a 2.6 kernel in /testing Jan 14 05:02:06 W|GG-Laptop, thanks for pointing that out Jan 14 05:02:15 sanish: ftp://sandman777.homelinux.com/Tutorials/kernel.txt Jan 14 05:02:20 sanish, what you upgrading from and to? Jan 14 05:02:24 <-- HeatHawk has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 05:02:25 huge difference Jan 14 05:02:28 2.4 to 2.6 Jan 14 05:02:54 thr1ce, i am getting gaim-1.0.2 from the slackware site... its says it comes from patches Jan 14 05:03:18 brb Jan 14 05:03:23 how do i install it? do i need to remove the old one first and then run installpkg on it? Jan 14 05:03:46 upgradepkg gaim-1.0.2.-xxx.tgz Jan 14 05:04:23 sanish, what ones exactly? Jan 14 05:04:37 i suggest u do wat XGizzmo and thr1ce said above... use the one in /testing Jan 14 05:04:51 thr1ce, cheers Jan 14 05:04:58 :) Jan 14 05:05:17 or, compile yourself- ftp://sandman777.homelinux.com/Tutorials/kernel.txt Jan 14 05:05:50 gaim is up to 1.1.1 Jan 14 05:05:57 1/0/2 os quite old Jan 14 05:06:03 1.0.2 Jan 14 05:06:04 :-) Jan 14 05:06:07 Xgates: not on stable slack Jan 14 05:06:11 err my typing Jan 14 05:06:28 darn, it is really pouring out there Jan 14 05:06:38 bye bye good weather Jan 14 05:06:43 thr1ce: Gaim isn't OS dependant doesn't matter, BUT if your looking in Slackware I can understand then Jan 14 05:06:45 Hrumm. Can anyone point me to a site that loads a TON of spyware onto a machine? Jan 14 05:06:59 Kyle_S: LOL Jan 14 05:07:10 well, you asked for it: microsoft.com Jan 14 05:07:15 Kyle_S : uhmm, install windows. don't patch it. go with ie on any porn site. Jan 14 05:07:17 <-- Rasta has quit () Jan 14 05:07:37 http://slackwiki.org/Special:Search?search=kernel&go=Go Jan 14 05:07:43 thr1ce: Slackcare has the latest version but there is a membership Jan 14 05:08:00 Hey I'm trying to get example code here ;) Its for my mod_rewrite redirect... Jan 14 05:08:22 --- ChanServ gives voice to unixfool W|GG-Laptop Jan 14 05:08:29 <-- zuurcool has quit (Ping timeout: 14400 seconds) Jan 14 05:09:12 you guys watching shock tv on hbo? Jan 14 05:09:14 <-- straterra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 05:09:23 <^Jenn> i dont have cable Jan 14 05:09:25 <^Jenn> so no Jan 14 05:09:25 <^Jenn> lol Jan 14 05:09:42 you don't know what you're missing Jan 14 05:09:43 lol Jan 14 05:09:51 you better steal it Jan 14 05:10:28 Heh Jan 14 05:10:48 <^Jenn> nah Jan 14 05:10:54 /exec ssh -X deez@wigglit.user mplayer -vo x11 tv:// Jan 14 05:10:57 <-- adjacent has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 05:11:05 W|GG-Laptop: Damnit, don't you have a capture card? ;) Jan 14 05:11:23 lol Jan 14 05:11:39 i would've recorded it on the tivo if i'd have known it was coming on Jan 14 05:11:48 thr1ce, k3b works now! go stable slack Jan 14 05:11:53 W|GG-Laptop: can mplayer play TiVo files yet? Jan 14 05:12:14 <-- ezrafree has quit ("[A] deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow") Jan 14 05:12:15 hrmm...i haven't checked the tivo forums in awhile, so i don't know Jan 14 05:12:17 when people say a cdwriter is 12x/8x/32x, what is its writing speed? Jan 14 05:12:20 i forget which one Jan 14 05:12:26 i dont mean for cdrw's either Jan 14 05:12:31 is it the 12? Jan 14 05:12:33 PuGz: 12 burn 8 rewrite 32 read. Jan 14 05:12:38 cheers Jan 14 05:12:55 <-- nologo has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 05:13:03 PuGz: but thats the MAX it can do. 4x burners were the last that actually worked at the speed on the front. Jan 14 05:13:15 anyone has gmail and care to send me an invitation? Jan 14 05:13:27 everything faster than them the speed goes up and down depending, and the speed on the front is the max (but it almost never hits it) Jan 14 05:13:30 yea me too Jan 14 05:13:44 Kyle_S, yeah... i just needed to tell k3b what the max speeds of my cdwriters are Jan 14 05:13:49 --> Neur0 (~nick@227.011.dsl.vic.iprimus.net.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 05:13:53 i am the only one without a gmail account Jan 14 05:13:57 /server Jan 14 05:13:58 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 05:15:00 larry_lumbo: isn't it sad when your fellow netizens dont give what they can at no cost, by only sacrificing a bit of their time? Jan 14 05:15:06 Ahh ok. Jan 14 05:15:15 My 40x burner seems to be able to do 32x max. Jan 14 05:15:32 FriedBob: are you using 40x cds? Jan 14 05:16:19 FriedBob: once i couldn't figure out why my brand new 8x dvd burner was burning at 2x... then i realized i had bought 2x dvd-r :) Jan 14 05:16:25 my 32x burner got fscked the other night, and only works as a reader now (and i even doudt its reading capabilities to tell you the truth) Jan 14 05:16:25 well i could have had one quite some time ago i didnt jump on it Jan 14 05:16:28 when you are doing the "make menuconfig" for the kernel, whats the difference between modules and to haveit compiled in (M and *) Jan 14 05:16:30 shame on me Jan 14 05:16:40 everyone on irc has one Jan 14 05:16:43 ezrafree: I've had a similar experience with a 48 speed gburner (it usually hit 38-42) with 48 speed discs. Jan 14 05:16:46 i just want to fit in Jan 14 05:17:15 what are you going on about larry :) Jan 14 05:17:25 ezrafree: gmail Jan 14 05:17:33 when you are doing the "make menuconfig" for the kernel, whats the difference between modules and to haveit compiled in (M and *) Jan 14 05:17:35 i suppose nothing Jan 14 05:17:51 just wait till i get a invite Jan 14 05:18:59 sanish: the difference is, modules you can load/unload that feature into/out of the kernel at will... otherwise it's always there. Jan 14 05:19:09 larry_lumbo: whats your email. i got an invite you can have Jan 14 05:19:15 invite to what? Jan 14 05:19:17 gmail? Jan 14 05:19:24 ya Jan 14 05:19:25 is that all you wanted larry Jan 14 05:19:26 sanish: having something compiled in, will get it loaded on boot-up. Having it as a module, will load it after the boot process, once the device has been inserted (for removable devices you dont use often), or once you need the device and instruct your computer to load the driver. Jan 14 05:19:33 shoulda said so, i have a gmail invite you can have too Jan 14 05:19:35 yes sir Jan 14 05:19:57 skubee: do you have an invite for me too by any chance? Jan 14 05:20:02 thanks guys Jan 14 05:20:27 <-- larry_lumbo has quit ("BitchX: it's what's for lunch") Jan 14 05:20:40 i can spare a few invites Jan 14 05:20:46 ok octavious Jan 14 05:21:13 haha Jan 14 05:21:20 brb...gotta reboot Jan 14 05:21:27 all that and then he just left Jan 14 05:21:28 --> larry_lumbo (~dev@bgp01014816bgs.rosvle01.mi.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 05:21:30 --> Epidemic1l (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 05:21:30 <-- W|GG-Laptop has quit (Connection reset by peer) Jan 14 05:21:35 ah wb larry_lumbo Jan 14 05:21:47 hello Jan 14 05:22:02 ok, what does it mean when you try to log in and after you type your username, it just kicks you back to the login prompt Jan 14 05:22:15 you don't even get a chance to enter your password Jan 14 05:22:18 ang: try to log in to what? Jan 14 05:22:48 my slackware box Jan 14 05:22:49 thanx for all the help guys Jan 14 05:22:49 i am sure to see u round some other time Jan 14 05:22:54 who was being a nice guy with the gmail invite Jan 14 05:23:12 larry_lumbo: join #gmail Jan 14 05:23:25 actually, before i go... anyone know why xcdroast isnt detecting all of my cdrom, cdrw and dvd drives? Jan 14 05:23:30 <-- Destructo has quit ("Daddy Drinks Because You Cry Alot !") Jan 14 05:23:36 ang: doesn't sound good :) Jan 14 05:23:37 the program works fine... i got the package from the xcdroast website Jan 14 05:24:08 PuGz: just a guess, but, perhaps not all hardware is supported by cdroast? Jan 14 05:24:42 ezrafree: well obviously something is missing Jan 14 05:24:46 jackflash: check PM Jan 14 05:25:02 ezrafree, i have had it working in xcdroast in other distros Jan 14 05:25:17 thanx tho Jan 14 05:25:18 ang: are you sitting at the actual terminal when trying to do this Jan 14 05:25:27 yup Jan 14 05:25:42 ang: did it just start doing this out of nowhere or is this a new install Jan 14 05:25:50 new install Jan 14 05:26:05 And that's the alpha port Jan 14 05:26:35 Resonance: yup, trying to figure out what is missing Jan 14 05:26:55 <-- FriedBob has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 14 05:27:02 anybody know where root's prompt is set in slack 10? Jan 14 05:27:32 thought it might be /etc/profile but it doesn't seem to be (unless I'm missing somehting) Jan 14 05:28:23 --> bri|zor-nix (~poweruser@pcp08364797pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 05:28:25 <-- PuGz has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 05:28:31 --> jmedina (~jmedina@209.205.213.234) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 05:28:34 Packeteer: in ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc i imagine Jan 14 05:29:05 it should be /etc/profile Jan 14 05:29:24 but only if ~/.bashrc does not exist Jan 14 05:29:34 specifically i am trying to find where the '#' comes from Jan 14 05:29:36 there we go, i was close :) Jan 14 05:29:55 --> Mellar (~brebbesvi@vpn-75-18.hib.no) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 05:30:09 <-- chrismoh has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 05:30:21 PuGz:xcdroast won't see mine either,i use command line or k3b Jan 14 05:31:05 I'm just wondering, with all these nifty new video cards taht have programmable shaders and stuff that you can program and save right on them... howcome no one has made a shader virus yet? Jan 14 05:31:11 Packeteer: bash changes the `$` character in $PS1 to $ for users and # for root Jan 14 05:32:22 <-- Epidemical has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 05:33:10 Kyle_S, Well, for Ati drivers, who could tell? Jan 14 05:33:25 eelriverlt: ooh good point.... Jan 14 05:33:44 --> imnes (~root@12-205-157-136.client.mchsi.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 05:33:45 --- nixor sets ban on *!~root@* Jan 14 05:33:45 <-- nixor has kicked imnes from ##slackware (banned: It is very dangerous to IRC as root. Please return under a user account.) Jan 14 05:33:53 big thanks octavious Jan 14 05:34:04 np Jan 14 05:35:07 Kyle_S-> someone will, on slashdot today a story read: Windows Longhorn to make Graphics Cards more Important Jan 14 05:35:36 ximpul: heh, well of course. I mean apple did it a few years ago, means WinDos will do it now. Jan 14 05:35:37 <-- ezrafree has quit (Excess Flood) Jan 14 05:35:39 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 05:35:40 ;) Jan 14 05:35:41 <-- ezrafree has quit (Excess Flood) Jan 14 05:35:41 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 05:35:43 thx octavious Jan 14 05:36:08 * Kyle_S decides to play deus ex until the windos machine crashes and reboots since the stupid ati card ovheats. Jan 14 05:36:22 Kyle_S-> yeah it was such a great idea to intergrate the graphics card with the os functioanlisty in quartz Jan 14 05:36:44 <-- dadexter has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 05:37:02 anyone else want a gmail invite? *shudder* i feel so dirty. Jan 14 05:37:24 i have ~10 spare invites Jan 14 05:37:29 :/ Jan 14 05:37:47 12 here Jan 14 05:38:06 maybe we can make a gmail invite beowulf cluster.... Jan 14 05:38:19 omg Jan 14 05:38:33 all it will do is distributed gmail invites to anyone who asks Jan 14 05:38:34 lol Jan 14 05:38:45 hehe Jan 14 05:40:45 anyone get superkaramba+liquid_weather working on slack-current ? Jan 14 05:41:11 --> chrismoh (~chrism@rdlax12-b170.dialup.optusnet.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 05:44:01 <-- Resonance has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 05:44:05 whats the command to set your console fonts Jan 14 05:44:33 read /etc/rc.d/rc.fonts Jan 14 05:44:37 thanks Jan 14 05:45:59 i swear im gonna throw this vaio out the window one of these days Jan 14 05:46:21 --> ReNz0r` (objorkum@ti411110a080-0534.bb.online.no) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 05:46:24 * chodapp opens the window Jan 14 05:46:29 * chodapp pulls up a trampoline Jan 14 05:46:34 * acidkill stands ready to catch it. Jan 14 05:46:38 <-- ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) has left ##slackware ("Client exiting") Jan 14 05:46:51 --> Zalamander (~zal@zalamander.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 05:48:28 <-- Caveman has quit ("How can I know all this, but not know who I am ?") Jan 14 05:49:07 is it possible to change the fonts and screen resolution of your boot sequence Jan 14 05:49:15 when ts lists whats its doing Jan 14 05:49:23 --> yanger (1001@yanger.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 05:49:27 sorta. Jan 14 05:49:34 sanish yes Jan 14 05:49:34 hey yanger! Jan 14 05:49:38 well, i just recompild 2.6.10 Jan 14 05:49:39 you can enable framebuffer textmode, or look at something like bootsplash Jan 14 05:49:39 Riddick! Jan 14 05:49:40 where've you been? Jan 14 05:49:42 Squall`! Jan 14 05:49:51 and it switched the font Jan 14 05:49:53 i returned to #slackware Jan 14 05:49:56 :P Jan 14 05:49:57 how do i do that Jan 14 05:50:01 :) Jan 14 05:50:07 i had fun with #gentoo until i messed up my system :P Jan 14 05:50:09 sanish run "setconsolefont" Jan 14 05:50:14 eww yanger Jan 14 05:50:18 you need cleansing Jan 14 05:50:25 mmm bathe me Jan 14 05:50:26 :| Jan 14 05:50:28 sanish and for resolution, you can set the vga value in /etc/lilo.conf, and then run "lilo" Jan 14 05:50:40 ahh Jan 14 05:50:42 * Squall` gets plenty of soap to wash off the gentoo scent Jan 14 05:50:53 ok, ill give it a try Jan 14 05:51:12 :D Jan 14 05:51:29 man, gentoo took hours and hours to install at stage1 Jan 14 05:51:32 <-- ezrafree has quit ("[A] as below, so above, and beyond I imagine ..") Jan 14 05:51:40 lolz Squall` Jan 14 05:51:42 i got back into slack in 1 hour :P Jan 14 05:51:44 yanger, slackware still loves you, you know Jan 14 05:51:49 yay Jan 14 05:52:08 i tried gentto for 2 weeks once, painful 2 weeks Jan 14 05:52:35 <-- ReNz0r`_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 05:52:47 i installed a stage3 pretty quick, havnt touched it after a few emerges failed Jan 14 05:52:52 :P Jan 14 05:53:14 * yanger sighs. Jan 14 05:53:24 Slackware is the coolest-named distro, that's why I use it. I couldn't use a distro named "gentoo". Jan 14 05:53:50 heh, well its a better name than windows Jan 14 05:53:51 Zalamander, i heard that gentoo was responsible for global warming, many scientists now support that theory Jan 14 05:53:54 doh, now i forgot my q Jan 14 05:53:56 Debian is a pretty weird name too Jan 14 05:54:04 yanger, :X Jan 14 05:54:15 i just feel weird about putting 'slackware' on ym resume Jan 14 05:54:19 husband and wife Jan 14 05:54:20 *my Jan 14 05:54:23 ximpul heh Jan 14 05:54:30 ximpul just put "linux" Jan 14 05:54:36 i'd put UNIX Jan 14 05:54:39 to be safe Jan 14 05:54:40 i have to use debian at work... i really hate debian now Jan 14 05:54:53 i use sunos @ work :( Jan 14 05:54:55 Zalamander-> yea, its like depending on the person reading it to know that its a distro Jan 14 05:55:05 solaris 9 Jan 14 05:55:09 "Ubuntu" -- pretty cool name. Jan 14 05:55:13 then i went the extra mile and put the kernel revision Jan 14 05:55:20 lol ubuntu sucks Jan 14 05:55:22 Vector -- not bad. Jan 14 05:55:22 ooh, i quit my waitress job Jan 14 05:55:29 Riddick phooy! :P Jan 14 05:55:31 well for a name anyway Jan 14 05:55:56 ximpul sounds pretty cool to my (American) ears Jan 14 05:56:11 --> KruMn (~KloS@27tdev11.codetel.net.do) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 05:56:11 after i install a new kernel do i need to reconfig my video card Jan 14 05:56:13 hi Jan 14 05:56:14 ? Jan 14 05:56:30 heh, its pronounced 'simple' Jan 14 05:56:32 how its the name of apsfilter packages? Jan 14 05:56:34 sanish for console? no Jan 14 05:56:35 sanish, if the kernel version is different, yes Jan 14 05:57:02 sanish if your vga isn't working, you might need to add framebuffer support to your kernel. Jan 14 05:57:06 u can't use 2.4.x nvidia modules in a 2.6.x kernel :| Jan 14 05:57:36 yanger not everyone uses nvidia's drivers though Jan 14 05:57:46 :) Jan 14 05:57:54 using nvidia as a example Jan 14 05:58:00 anyone here managed to install the latest vlc to play wmv 9 ? Jan 14 05:58:19 i can't get vlc to work at all :| Jan 14 05:58:20 ximpul it probably rhymes with word for "dirty diaper" in that language Jan 14 05:58:46 yanger yeah, but that's only true for nvidia's proprietary driver pacakges Jan 14 05:58:58 --> W|GG-Laptop (~deez@wigglit.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 05:59:08 maybe I'm confused about what you're saying Jan 14 05:59:10 eh, # of the day... why ##slackware ? Jan 14 05:59:19 i mean at console Jan 14 05:59:35 <-- debd00d has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 05:59:58 sanish I bet that you need framebuffer support. Both general support, and a specific framebuffer (like VESA) Jan 14 06:00:09 in your kernel Jan 14 06:00:16 how o i do that Jan 14 06:00:38 sanish reconfigure/recompile your kernel Jan 14 06:00:39 oh yeah.. Jan 14 06:00:43 lemme pastebin.. Jan 14 06:00:46 --> fhobia (~fhobia@24-205-238-48.slo-cres.charterpipeline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:00:57 thats sucks Jan 14 06:01:00 any other way Jan 14 06:01:00 YO YO YO Jan 14 06:01:12 yanger ## is to reflect the unofficial nature of the channel. None of us own Slackware. Jan 14 06:01:25 sanish nope Jan 14 06:01:33 damn Jan 14 06:01:49 sanish unless you already have it compiled in and something else is wrong. It sounds like you might be missing it. Jan 14 06:02:30 <-- smoke_ has quit (No route to host) Jan 14 06:02:31 lol ximpul is african for bringer of much sexual dissapointment Jan 14 06:02:37 (jk) Jan 14 06:03:44 http://pastebin.com/228702 <- my middle mouse doesn't work Jan 14 06:03:51 the middle mouse scroll Jan 14 06:04:20 --> Epidemical (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:04:22 that was my usual setup too, am i typing it wrong? Jan 14 06:04:22 heh Jan 14 06:04:32 yanger use "IMPS/2" instead of "PS/2", restart X Jan 14 06:04:44 Zalamander so how would i compile that into the kernel Jan 14 06:04:53 i see, so #channels are owned by owners, and ##channels are just channels but the owner doesn't #own the channel? Jan 14 06:04:56 <-- bobert has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 14 06:05:06 yanger, yes Jan 14 06:05:07 kind of Jan 14 06:05:12 :| Jan 14 06:05:16 sounds complicated Jan 14 06:05:18 anyways Jan 14 06:05:21 gonan restart kde Jan 14 06:05:25 sanish same way you compiled everything into the last kernel you made -- run menuconfig, find those options, and add them. Then recompile. Jan 14 06:05:30 yanger, there are reads about it on www.freenode.org Jan 14 06:05:39 --> sunbx (~awx@82.76.44.123) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:05:45 yeah, but i mean which otions are they Jan 14 06:05:54 --- ChanServ gives voice to W|GG-Laptop unixfool Jan 14 06:06:00 what about Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Jan 14 06:06:04 oh yeah, last 1. do i have to uninstall java before upgrading to jdk5 w/ netbeans? Jan 14 06:06:13 guys... i got some HDA timeout .... is it bad ? Jan 14 06:06:34 sanish you need framebuffer, and then you need to pick a specific frame buffer, like vesa. I believe they are in the console drivers Jan 14 06:06:37 larry_lumbo-> that enabled the mousewheel to scroll Jan 14 06:06:54 hey larry_lumbo Jan 14 06:06:58 how's it coming? Jan 14 06:06:59 hey Jan 14 06:07:04 going good Jan 14 06:07:16 thanks man Jan 14 06:07:20 sunbx probably Jan 14 06:07:24 still likin slackware? Jan 14 06:07:27 <-- ximpul has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 06:07:27 i got eterm installed Jan 14 06:07:32 oh yea Jan 14 06:07:36 hello Jan 14 06:07:41 <-- Epidemic1l has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 06:07:41 hey UDK Jan 14 06:07:44 sanish no problem. Sorry to be the bringer of bad news :-) Jan 14 06:07:50 * Zalamander waves at UdontKnow Jan 14 06:07:50 thr1ce: how goes? Jan 14 06:07:54 i will never go back to anything else Jan 14 06:07:54 larry_lumbo: man eterm, you will see there is alooot of options to fool around with :P Jan 14 06:07:57 Zal! Jan 14 06:07:59 UdontKnow: not bad, you? Jan 14 06:08:02 long time no see Jan 14 06:08:16 i must say though fluxbox rox Jan 14 06:08:18 hello :-) Jan 14 06:08:20 thr1ce: pretty good, despite the hurry Jan 14 06:08:35 --> viLeR (~miv@aurora.telesat.com.co) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:08:38 larry_lumbo: very fun to play around with Jan 14 06:08:54 i will never go into kde or gnome again Jan 14 06:09:11 yeah, i only use flux, and the new xfce Jan 14 06:09:18 fuck that nonsense Jan 14 06:09:27 fluxbox is great Jan 14 06:09:35 hi, under slack10, if i am installing jdk 1.5.x w/ netbeans, do i have to remove the old version of j2sdk 1.4.x? Jan 14 06:09:37 :P Jan 14 06:09:41 you don't like xfce? Jan 14 06:09:46 never tried Jan 14 06:09:53 just plain gnome or kde Jan 14 06:09:59 i really like the 4.2 beta that is out Jan 14 06:10:21 yanger probably not -- but it's probably a good idea. You might try upgrading instead, using the package from Slackware-current Jan 14 06:10:29 i had dropline gnome for a minute Jan 14 06:10:37 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:10:39 larry_lumbo: i HATe dropline gnome Jan 14 06:10:41 uhm, didn't see it in current.. Jan 14 06:10:43 it's in there? Jan 14 06:10:52 yep me too Jan 14 06:10:58 yanger I think so. You can check at http://slackware.com/pb Jan 14 06:11:03 http://www.slackwaregallery.com/displayimage.php?album=lastupby&cat=0&pos=5#body Jan 14 06:11:11 that was my other OS X look attempt, using the new xfce Jan 14 06:11:22 http://www.slackwaregallery.com/displayimage.php?album=lastupby&cat=0&pos=2#body Jan 14 06:11:29 i think i showed you that one before, the OS X fluxbox Jan 14 06:11:45 oh yeahh.. Jan 14 06:11:59 <-- chrismoh has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 06:12:01 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:12:07 --> qmasterrr (1000@pD9E66A86.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:12:08 <-- KruMn has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 06:12:19 1.5.0 Jan 14 06:12:23 <-- ezrafree has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 06:12:35 oh well it'll be fine i think.. (some websites want 1.5.x and not 1.4.x :() Jan 14 06:12:55 yanger, did you take a bath yet? Jan 14 06:12:57 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:13:05 --> debd00d (~bacardi@c-24-19-219-0.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:13:05 <-- At0mic_PC has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 06:13:09 Zalamander, "VESA VGA graphics supports" Jan 14 06:13:09 :P thanks Squall` Jan 14 06:13:10 ?? Jan 14 06:13:17 Squall`, i need u to scrub my back :( Jan 14 06:13:19 yanger it's not always safe to use -current packages on 10.0, but I think for java it wouldn't matter. Jan 14 06:13:27 O_O Jan 14 06:13:28 sanish yes, that sounds right Jan 14 06:13:37 --> supergoad (~supergoad@pcp08611785pcs.waldrf01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:13:37 Zalamander, as long as it dun break gcc-java :? :| Jan 14 06:13:37 <-- ezrafree has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 06:13:46 sanish and framebuffer support Jan 14 06:14:01 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:14:09 yanger, why would you want that? Jan 14 06:14:10 yanger Hm, i don't think it would. Jan 14 06:14:35 yanger but worse that happens is it doesn't work, and you can always remove it, or replace the old one Jan 14 06:14:37 geez that was confusing :) Jan 14 06:14:47 if anyone here is in #perl can you tell them i'm done now and they can unban me :) i was just fixing my script sorry hehe Jan 14 06:14:50 yanger, you do Java? Jan 14 06:15:20 <-- Pechorin has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 06:15:23 --> _Daedric (~noneof@adslsapo-b5-214-183.telepac.pt) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:15:28 <-- Daedric has quit ("changing servers") Jan 14 06:16:40 --> Caveman (~biocorp@caveman.ipv6tb.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:18:28 --> Pechorin (~cabrilo@adsl-66-139-120-80.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:18:33 <-- ximpul has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 06:18:35 Squall`, no, websites do java :| Jan 14 06:18:47 yanger, those are bad, bad websites then Jan 14 06:19:02 :| yes they are Jan 14 06:19:05 i brb now Jan 14 06:19:08 <-- yanger has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 06:21:19 <-- ezrafree has quit (Excess Flood) Jan 14 06:21:20 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:21:21 <-- ezrafree has quit (Excess Flood) Jan 14 06:22:05 --> brontos (~brontos@c-24-30-25-19.mw.client2.attbi.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:22:26 wtf's he doing...he keeps leaving with excess flood messages Jan 14 06:22:29 --> LSD`_ (~ianweb@dsl-202-173-170-204.wa.westnet.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:22:36 <-- mparthas has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 06:24:51 --> frogger__ (~frogger_@roc-66-67-58-171.rochester.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:25:35 <-- Zalamander has quit ("=") Jan 14 06:25:46 --- Xyaon is now known as Methoth Jan 14 06:25:52 --> mo699898 (~mo699898@c66.168.24.174.mad.wi.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:27:39 guys... i got some HDA timeout .... is it bad ? what can I do ? Jan 14 06:27:57 reboot? Kick it? Jan 14 06:27:59 you can hit google instead of spamming the channel half the night Jan 14 06:28:03 yes a HD timeout is bad generally Jan 14 06:28:11 <-- _Daedric has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 06:28:19 --> beltorak (~kvirc@ip68-230-199-179.rd.hr.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:28:24 bout the only thing you can do is backup your data and get a new drive... usually Jan 14 06:28:36 some drives just timeout on Linux for no apparent reason. Jan 14 06:29:02 hey all; I just got a new install of slack 10.0 using kernel 2.6.7 and anything that needs a psuedo terminal (konsole, sshd, etc) is failing; what do i need to check? Jan 14 06:29:12 <-- LSD` has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 14 06:29:15 --- LSD`_ is now known as LSD` Jan 14 06:29:22 hi inflex Jan 14 06:29:30 hi beltorak Jan 14 06:29:39 <-- thr1ce has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 14 06:29:57 oh, using udev of course Jan 14 06:30:18 and how (when i modify the udev config files) do i get the udev system to reread them and automagically deal with the new settings? Jan 14 06:31:23 --> Daedric (~noneof@82.154.214.183) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:31:30 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:32:29 how can i fully check my hd? aaa how can i change a ext2 in ext3 ? Jan 14 06:32:50 aaaa? what? Jan 14 06:32:54 <-- SlackFart has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 06:33:55 sunbx : stfw Jan 14 06:34:06 sunbx : you seem to confuse ##slackware for your personal google assistant Jan 14 06:34:16 ananke, what's the w? Jan 14 06:34:19 stfw? Jan 14 06:34:19 <-- maddler has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 14 06:34:20 sunbx, you need to learn to start researching or give up on linux Jan 14 06:34:25 Squall` : search the fine web Jan 14 06:34:33 ah Jan 14 06:34:43 i could have googled for that, you know :) Jan 14 06:34:47 lol Jan 14 06:35:07 man, i want a pga Jan 14 06:35:23 i want a car, boo hoo Jan 14 06:35:24 pga? golf tournament? Jan 14 06:35:25 'wtf' needs to be updated for all those fine acronyms :) Jan 14 06:35:35 W|GG-Laptop: personal google assistant :D google it Jan 14 06:35:38 yeah, i don't think wtf has been updated since the bsd days Jan 14 06:35:49 but i think it's on netbsd Jan 14 06:36:03 i got yer google Jan 14 06:36:16 g ( o )( o ) gle Jan 14 06:36:25 if i googled every acronym i saw, i'd not have time for anything else :o) Jan 14 06:36:34 W|GG-Laptop: /exec wtf Jan 14 06:36:58 i already researeched and says something about the kernel but is not that issue Jan 14 06:37:02 EXEC The system cannot find the file specified. Jan 14 06:37:04 lol Jan 14 06:37:16 its in the bsdgames Jan 14 06:37:20 soooo....anybody excited about latest updates in bsdgames ? Jan 14 06:37:27 "worms" rocks Jan 14 06:37:33 haha Jan 14 06:37:42 does anybnody have trouble with their frae buffer at 1024x768 Jan 14 06:37:43 ? Jan 14 06:37:52 nope Jan 14 06:37:59 yea bsdgames are pretty exciting aren't they?! Jan 14 06:38:05 sanish: this question is kinda pointless, isnt it? Jan 14 06:38:10 sometimes i play hangman in the library Jan 14 06:38:12 no Jan 14 06:38:14 Yeah, Fortune has Andrew Dice Clay quotes now Jan 14 06:38:20 not at all Jan 14 06:38:24 it is Jan 14 06:38:28 i need some more fortune -o's :| Jan 14 06:38:31 how so Jan 14 06:38:34 i've seen them all :\ Jan 14 06:39:21 sanish: maybe you could reverse it to something like... I am trying to do X, but its happening Y instead of Z. I already tried looking at A and B, and tried C and D, but no success Jan 14 06:39:30 so does anyone else have an idea what i need to do to get psuyedo terminals working sanely on a fresh slack install? Jan 14 06:39:35 or use a pga Jan 14 06:39:41 ok... Jan 14 06:39:52 --> thr1ce (~andrew@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:39:53 sanish, you'll get better help if you DESCRIBE your problem instead of asking people if they have problems...anyone having issues may or may not have the same issue as yourself Jan 14 06:40:02 so yeah, that question was pointless Jan 14 06:40:09 after installing the 2.6.10 kernal i cant get the console resolution back to 1024x768x16bit, whereit as before Jan 14 06:40:31 *was Jan 14 06:41:07 sanish-> set vga=791 in lilo.conf? Jan 14 06:41:12 * W|GG-Laptop runs at 1280x1024 on his desktop, no problem Jan 14 06:41:21 i can on the desktop Jan 14 06:41:24 not on the console Jan 14 06:41:33 W|GG-Laptop, i'm thinking of buying a laptop Jan 14 06:41:37 any recommendations? Jan 14 06:41:47 did you follow ximpul's example? Jan 14 06:41:50 vga = 773 Jan 14 06:41:58 1027x768x256 Jan 14 06:42:06 thats what i have un commenetd Jan 14 06:42:19 Squall`, i use dell and toshiba Jan 14 06:42:27 which models? Jan 14 06:42:32 ..use 791 for 1024x768@16 Jan 14 06:42:37 did you re-execute lilo after the change? Jan 14 06:42:42 yes Jan 14 06:42:44 <-- frogger_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 06:42:59 ximpul, i cant get the screen res at that Jan 14 06:43:08 im not worried about the color depth Jan 14 06:43:24 --> riken (~riken@mnc04.mei.co.jp) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:43:27 sanish-> k, if you put it on there the screen goes black at boot? Jan 14 06:43:34 yes Jan 14 06:43:40 <-- riken has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 06:43:45 until it finishes boot Jan 14 06:43:50 then i go to the login screen Jan 14 06:43:50 hell, try every vga code Jan 14 06:44:07 sanish-> then you have to recompile, make sure to include all the vga options that seem relevant Jan 14 06:44:15 --> Tukon (~Tukon@adsl-63-202-180-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:44:21 --> umair (~umair@202.147.174.97) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:44:25 Squall`, i've a dell inspiron 8500 and a toshiba satellite 1805-S274 Jan 14 06:44:29 hi all Jan 14 06:44:33 cool Jan 14 06:44:41 hey Caveman Jan 14 06:44:58 dell has $500 off today Jan 14 06:45:11 the toshiba has an LCD issue...a hardware issue that i've sent 3 times to get repaired, so don't get that model (its an old model anyways) Jan 14 06:45:22 --> CrazyP (pete@cpe-66-8-207-161.hawaii.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:45:41 you lookin at new or used? Jan 14 06:46:04 <-- keanne has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 06:46:15 ximpul, everythign is alredy included Jan 14 06:46:27 ive recompiled trwice tonight Jan 14 06:46:33 all, my slack 10 dies on boot..says no more processes left in this runlevel Jan 14 06:46:44 also rc.inet1 and rc.inet2 are missing in /etc/rc.d/ Jan 14 06:46:50 --- nixor removes ban on *!*@207.172.254.149 Jan 14 06:47:11 is there anyway to change the resolution o the console after boot Jan 14 06:47:15 ? Jan 14 06:47:21 no Jan 14 06:47:28 umair: check that the getty's are running on extant terminals Jan 14 06:47:36 umair upgraded anything lately ? Jan 14 06:47:37 :) Jan 14 06:47:41 umair: hey.. did you get your box working ? Jan 14 06:48:04 moving from or to the devfs will do that too ya if ya don't have the oldcompats there Jan 14 06:48:09 all, my slack 10 dies on boot..says no more processes left in this runlevel Jan 14 06:48:10 Caveman, well i can get slack to boot the kernel...after starting hotplug it dies.. Jan 14 06:48:11 :o) Jan 14 06:48:27 umair: damm :| Jan 14 06:48:33 W|GG-Laptop, well i installed slack 10 on my machine while i was booted in debian Jan 14 06:48:47 umair: thats the last step in the boot rc's -- check your getttys in /etc/inittab Jan 14 06:48:49 W|GG-Laptop, i installed the A and AP group but i still feel stuff is missing Jan 14 06:48:59 <-- chibo has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 14 06:49:04 beltorak, i commented out the gettys as it was referencing agetty Jan 14 06:49:13 and it says couldnot execute /sbin/agetty Jan 14 06:49:18 clearly, you need fortune from the Y package to have a functional system Jan 14 06:49:30 you need something to listen to the terminals or you won't be able to login.... right? Jan 14 06:49:40 beltorak, right.. Jan 14 06:49:48 so what do you have? Jan 14 06:50:12 umair upgraded libs ? Jan 14 06:50:31 got that same issue when i was upgrading the glib things... Jan 14 06:50:41 sunbx, its a fresh install Jan 14 06:50:48 hang on guys...let me do a reboot on this machine.. Jan 14 06:51:03 brb in 5 minutes..will report the results after this reboot :) Jan 14 06:51:07 fingers crossed.. Jan 14 06:51:08 <-- Squall` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 06:51:11 ok Jan 14 06:51:25 <-- umair has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 06:51:32 sanish-> did you compine in the drivers for your video card ? Jan 14 06:51:44 ximpul-> *compile Jan 14 06:52:11 --> Epidemic1l (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:52:33 * W|GG-Laptop is watching Screensavers Jan 14 06:52:37 <-- rOgeR_uRiCk (~uRicK@200227057098-dial-user-ECP.acessonet.com.br) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 14 06:52:46 screensavers is so bad... Jan 14 06:52:46 --> PuGz (~woodsb02@woodsb02.student.dialup.uwa.edu.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:52:46 who's that short little blonde? Jan 14 06:53:28 W|GG-Laptop: the the screensavers on techtv ? Jan 14 06:53:37 or g4techtv to be correct ? Jan 14 06:53:46 G4 now :o) Jan 14 06:53:48 but yeah Jan 14 06:53:49 same show Jan 14 06:53:52 ok. Jan 14 06:53:57 hey guys... i want slackware to boot straight into either kdm or gdm... how can i set it up to do that? cause i will still want to use the ctrl-alt-f1 to get to the consoles... but if i use a different run level, the consoles are not working anymore Jan 14 06:53:59 used to be such a good show. Jan 14 06:54:04 yeah, i know Jan 14 06:54:11 until the killed it by removing kevin rose. Jan 14 06:54:19 and pat and leo and alex :) Jan 14 06:54:22 i stopped watching as soon as the merger Jan 14 06:54:30 that didn't sit right with me Jan 14 06:54:33 you know. the "old" gang left. Jan 14 06:54:38 yeah Jan 14 06:54:52 man tssv was the best Jan 14 06:54:57 now they have all these "good" looking people who know shit about tech. Jan 14 06:55:15 although i would of liked more linux stuff but hey they kept me up to date with the projects Jan 14 06:55:31 i'm about to change the channel....its just background noise now Jan 14 06:55:32 lol Jan 14 06:55:39 haha Jan 14 06:55:40 yep Jan 14 06:55:43 --> express_ (1000@203-219-67-42-syd-ts23-2600.tpgi.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 06:55:44 OH well. Jan 14 06:55:55 I see kevinrose is going ot start his own show on the net. Jan 14 06:56:02 or something of the sort. Jan 14 06:56:02 PuGz: there should be console 4 still open.... Jan 14 06:56:07 whoa Jan 14 06:56:10 which will be hella cool. Jan 14 06:56:11 that'd be cool Jan 14 06:56:20 W|GG-Laptop: www.kevinrose.com Jan 14 06:57:00 checking Jan 14 06:57:30 <-- dimm0k has quit ("g'night piglets") Jan 14 06:57:55 beltorak, so why do the first three not stay open? Jan 14 06:57:57 hrmmm...now i'm thinking of making a donation :o) Jan 14 06:58:01 like in every other distro? Jan 14 06:58:33 hehe Jan 14 06:58:43 W|GG-Laptop: you have seen the broken have you not ? Jan 14 06:59:02 no Jan 14 06:59:16 W|GG-Laptop: OMG.. ok. www.thebroken.org Jan 14 06:59:29 * Caveman drags W|GG-Laptop out of his shell Jan 14 06:59:40 lol Jan 14 06:59:52 work has priority :o) Jan 14 06:59:55 W|GG-Laptop: this might also be of interest http://www.scopetech.net/ Jan 14 07:00:06 its in /etc/inittab -- check the comments for runlevel 4; and you can edit the consoles that are open for the runlevels (near the bottom iirc) Jan 14 07:00:14 written by dan FOO huard Jan 14 07:00:17 PuGz: ^^^^ Jan 14 07:00:49 this is gonna make for some GOOD reading! Jan 14 07:01:03 nice! Jan 14 07:01:15 W|GG-Laptop: hehe Jan 14 07:01:35 --> spenser (~spenser@user-0c8hmse.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 07:01:45 W|GG-Laptop: alex also has a interesting blog http://alexalbrecht.typepad.com/ Jan 14 07:02:40 bookmarking all these Jan 14 07:02:50 * W|GG-Laptop is now stoked Jan 14 07:03:23 --> DarkTide_ (~nerd@dialup-4.156.102.67.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 07:03:36 <-- Epidemical has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 07:04:32 thx Caveman ! Jan 14 07:05:17 <-- CrazyP has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 07:05:43 beltorak, it says "x1:4:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc.4"... so that leaves open console 4... how do i edit it to leave open 1,2,3&4? Jan 14 07:06:08 W|GG-Laptop: NP.I cant believe you had not seen them before !! Jan 14 07:06:20 watching extreme dodgeball now...lol Jan 14 07:06:21 * Caveman wonders if W|GG-Laptop have slashdot in his bookmarks :) Jan 14 07:06:27 Caveman, yeah, i've been working hard lately Jan 14 07:06:32 --> CrazyP (pete@cpe-66-8-207-161.hawaii.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 07:06:34 oh...and i can't stand slashdot Jan 14 07:06:35 lol Jan 14 07:06:41 W|GG-Laptop: haha Jan 14 07:06:46 that reminds me. Jan 14 07:06:56 how do i edit my timezone? Jan 14 07:06:58 I am out of the slackware circle these days// any word on pat ? Jan 14 07:07:17 there is something on the slackware.com site about his health Jan 14 07:07:20 --> kerio2004 (~Port@210.213.150.64) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 07:07:27 dunno how old that is Jan 14 07:07:33 yeah I have read that Jan 14 07:07:38 is that the lastest we have? Jan 14 07:08:26 dunno Jan 14 07:08:36 wat is wrong with him? Jan 14 07:08:44 check come of the recent changelogs. pat's fine Jan 14 07:09:43 anyone know how to edit the /etc/inittab to leave open more than just the 4th console in run level 4? Jan 14 07:09:45 it says "x1:4:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc.4"... so that leaves open console 4... how do i edit it to leave open 1,2,3&4? Jan 14 07:10:20 skubee: ok good. was sounding bad there for awhile. Jan 14 07:11:26 * fhobia eagerly anticipates the next release Jan 14 07:12:43 hrmm...this fc3 ain't bad, so far Jan 14 07:12:50 faster than the suse install Jan 14 07:13:11 <-- brontos has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 07:13:13 PuGz: You need to edit the lines that begin with letter 'c'. E.g. change "c5:1235:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux" to "c5:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux" The added 4 means runlevel 4, c5 means console number 5. Jan 14 07:13:42 <-- sanish has quit () Jan 14 07:13:54 PuGz: I hope you have at least skimmed "man inittab". Jan 14 07:14:05 PuGz, Like this http://www.pastebin.com/228710 Jan 14 07:14:08 oh Jan 14 07:14:29 Larhzu, actually... i hadnt read that... didnt know it existed... will do Jan 14 07:14:48 hey guys... hows this for a nice exam paper!? Jan 14 07:14:50 http://infocom.cqu.edu.au/Units/aut98/85321/Old_Stuff/1997_Website/Assessment/Past_Exams/1996_Exam/ Jan 14 07:15:00 thats seems like a good unit! haha Jan 14 07:15:03 <-- ximpul has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 07:17:08 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 07:18:53 <-- ryanc has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 07:19:47 anyone know how will i config nautilus to open only one window whenever i open new folder... Jan 14 07:20:23 kerio2004-> search google for 'disable spatial nautilus' the first site should have a command for it Jan 14 07:20:33 cheers guys Jan 14 07:20:36 <-- PuGz has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 07:20:49 ximpul:tnxs dude ..ill try Jan 14 07:21:38 naughty nautilus Jan 14 07:21:57 is KDE on the second cd ? Jan 14 07:22:10 fhobia : yep Jan 14 07:22:15 :| Jan 14 07:23:07 anybody have experience with thinkpad notebooks ? worth extra cost or just inflated price ? Jan 14 07:26:11 fhobia, i have 2 any love them both Jan 14 07:26:19 <-- DarkTide has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 07:26:24 fhobia, very linux compatible Jan 14 07:26:35 ok :] Jan 14 07:26:46 my laptop right now is 733...wondering if i should upgrade soon Jan 14 07:26:54 you know for linux its good enough Jan 14 07:26:59 but for windows...pretty sluggish Jan 14 07:27:13 i was kinda eyeing the thinkpads, but they are quite $$$ Jan 14 07:27:18 fhobia, although since i run linux i don't have the need to get the latest and greatest. i buy used ones. Jan 14 07:27:39 fhobia, the one i am on right now was $540 Jan 14 07:27:48 fhobia, the other one was $20 Jan 14 07:28:04 ah, like on overstock or something ? Jan 14 07:28:17 any good discount places you recommend ? Jan 14 07:28:19 fhobia, "certified pre-owned" Jan 14 07:28:44 * fhobia goes to look Jan 14 07:28:57 <-- michaelks has quit () Jan 14 07:28:58 fhobia, ibm.com has a good refurbished section, i got one from tigerdirect.com and the other i got at a tech auction in town. Jan 14 07:29:00 --> _Daedric (~noneof@adslsapo-b5-209-200.telepac.pt) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 07:29:13 fhobia, only look at the T series though Jan 14 07:29:22 I am on a stinkpad right now.. My opinon is they ain't worth the price Jan 14 07:29:38 lab_rat: go on :) i want to hear this Jan 14 07:30:23 The problem here is the battery and charging circuit are rotten Jan 14 07:30:27 --> toor (~sterling@67-138-137-160.br1.fod.ia.frontiernet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 07:30:27 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@*.br?.fod.ia.frontiernet.net Jan 14 07:30:28 <-- nixor has kicked toor from ##slackware (banned:you were supposed to be permbanned @ ops, this guy has been a thorn in ##slackware for ages. i'm permbanning him....again) Jan 14 07:30:46 <-- oatmeal has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 07:30:54 IBM has known about this for a long time and did nothing to really address it Jan 14 07:31:23 They put out a fix or should I call it a joke that of course did not work Jan 14 07:32:07 <-- bsdevious has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 07:32:13 :| what stinkpad model is this ? Jan 14 07:32:57 it's an old one but I have no reason to believe IBM has gotten any better 600e Jan 14 07:33:06 that's the model Jan 14 07:33:45 ah...my friend has trouble with that model too Jan 14 07:33:59 linux won't detect cdrom whether its slackware, ubuntu, fedora... Jan 14 07:34:07 Mind you ... It's my opinion but I am not the only one who thinks that way Jan 14 07:34:42 Ah... I admit I am cheating... Under linux is win98se Jan 14 07:34:42 lab_rat: its cool lab_rat, i wanted to hear it :D Jan 14 07:35:01 --> Epidemical (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 07:35:18 <-- viLeR has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 07:35:39 I am using winxpro ontop of windows 98 and connecting to a slack box Jan 14 07:35:54 i have a Thinkpad 560 and a Thinkpad T23. wouldn't trade them for anything. Jan 14 07:36:22 I have slackware on the 560 and arch linux on the T23. both work great. haven't had any problems. Jan 14 07:36:42 they are light and the build quality is great. Jan 14 07:37:02 Spenser I wouldn't doubt that at all.. At one time IBM made good stuff.. At the point they made the 600 series they seemed to have lost the concept Jan 14 07:37:08 i checked out some others, but the only other one I would even consider is the emachines with the AMD64. Jan 14 07:37:20 haha the $899 used one on tigerdirect ? Jan 14 07:37:21 they had a hiccup? Jan 14 07:37:21 i just saw that Jan 14 07:37:37 fhobia, $899 for what? Jan 14 07:37:45 <-- Epidemic1l has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 07:37:51 $899 for some used emachines with amd64 and 512 ram...blah blah Jan 14 07:37:54 it was on the front page just now Jan 14 07:38:05 laptop Jan 14 07:38:07 yeah, one of the guys at work has it and loves it. Jan 14 07:38:18 I think a lot of people especially corporations bough fleets of these things and were pretty ticked off when they realized they bought the name but the goods were not up to snuff Jan 14 07:38:24 but then again he is a windows guy. Jan 14 07:38:41 lab_rat, the 600e? Jan 14 07:38:50 yes spenser Jan 14 07:39:06 lab_rat: do you have any recommendations for laptops ? Jan 14 07:39:30 i used to like toshiba a lot..but seems they are really missing the mark these days especially with their ugly designs Jan 14 07:39:41 and well dell...dell's just hit or miss... Jan 14 07:39:42 fhobia I don't use them and don't know enough to recommened a good one.. Jan 14 07:39:45 <-- thr1ce has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 07:39:51 lab_rat: ok, fair enough - thank you Jan 14 07:39:59 This thing fell into my hands because of the battery problem Jan 14 07:40:00 i hate dell. Jan 14 07:40:10 --> phiend (~phiend@64.86.231.103) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 07:40:49 I have an external 12v 7ah battery attached to it to be here.. Jan 14 07:40:59 Looks like a bad science project Jan 14 07:41:32 man, we have 5 dells at home...3 suck Jan 14 07:41:46 their cases fell apart like crumbs of bread Jan 14 07:41:55 my dad still uses one but you can see the metal frame Jan 14 07:42:02 like using a skeletion Jan 14 07:42:15 Dell just sent me their latest catalogue of offerings.. Don't have any inclination to look at it Jan 14 07:42:16 mine stays plugged in most of the time, but that's just because i'm always close to an outlet. on the battery it lasts about 2 hours, but i turned all the power saving features off. Jan 14 07:42:26 <-- qmasterr1 has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 07:42:26 <-- qmasterrr has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 07:42:54 Spenser.. Intersting you should say that.. The 600E has an interesting problem Jan 14 07:43:16 half my stuff is dell...lol Jan 14 07:43:30 no issues here Jan 14 07:43:31 What they did was imbed the battery charging and sensing circuit in the system board Jan 14 07:43:49 At this point the external charger will not work Jan 14 07:44:28 when dell works, its fine imho Jan 14 07:44:42 That's why I am using an external battery and external chargig system and bypassing the internal stuff Jan 14 07:44:55 lol Jan 14 07:45:18 To fix it I would have to buy another system board and the laptop is not worth the $100 Jan 14 07:46:39 about two hours sound right for those... Jan 14 07:47:46 and i love the little light at the top. Jan 14 07:47:50 --- nixor removes ban on *!~root@* Jan 14 07:48:06 just enough light to type with, but not to bright. Jan 14 07:48:22 Oh yeah hat's another thing... The viewing angle is garbage on this thing Jan 14 07:48:34 lol Jan 14 07:48:51 <-- althalus has quit () Jan 14 07:48:54 I have to have it set at just the right angle or portions of the screen washout Jan 14 07:48:58 really? Jan 14 07:49:13 side to side is ok but not above and below Jan 14 07:49:17 --- frogger__ is now known as frogger_ Jan 14 07:49:34 the viewing angle on the 560 isn't great, but it's an old machine, this t23 is great, and it's a little old. Jan 14 07:49:49 <-- grey (~grey@Sudbury-HSE-ppp3980428.sympatico.ca) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 14 07:49:53 lab_rat, did you do research before you purchased? doesn't sound like it Jan 14 07:50:16 No I never wanted it in the first place It fell into my hands Jan 14 07:50:33 maybe you shoulda gave it back Jan 14 07:51:02 I could... the owner doesn't want it and I am just messing with it because it's here Jan 14 07:51:17 that last time i bitched about something that bad, i got rid of it Jan 14 07:51:55 I was asked an opinion and I gave it... I have no reason to bitch about a freebee toy Jan 14 07:52:51 I am in fact having great fun with it.. Jan 14 07:52:51 <-- Daedric has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 07:52:58 i'm just stating that instead of complaining about a situation you have control of, control the situation Jan 14 07:53:12 <-- beltorak has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 07:54:09 I see your point if I had bought it or cared that much about it.. I was only responding to fhobias quetion about ibm thinkpad Jan 14 07:55:02 the 600e Jan 14 07:55:10 not all thinkpads Jan 14 07:55:10 you shit on almost every main brand...lol, but oh well Jan 14 07:55:14 right the 600e specifically Jan 14 07:55:31 ok guys! thx alot for your opinions! Jan 14 07:55:32 lol Jan 14 07:55:32 thanks for that spenser Jan 14 07:55:35 back to regular programming Jan 14 07:55:36 lol Jan 14 07:55:41 Lol Jan 14 07:56:08 lol Jan 14 07:56:49 It's running slack even if it is drowning out win98... I can hear the screams in the backgound Jan 14 07:57:11 <-- slackd00d has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 07:57:21 man I wonder why Slack has such a old version og bison hmm Jan 14 07:57:29 og/of ... Jan 14 07:57:29 --> mmu_man (revol@ALyon-112-1-4-6.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 07:57:43 hmm is bison tasty ? Jan 14 07:57:48 anybody try bison ? Jan 14 07:57:52 juicy ? Jan 14 07:57:59 hey fhobia say ya whooping it up in slackcare Jan 14 07:58:00 hehe Jan 14 07:58:04 hehehe Jan 14 07:58:15 saw ya..... Jan 14 07:58:24 I have deer Jan 14 07:58:24 now bison for me Jan 14 07:58:24 :p Jan 14 07:58:26 no... Jan 14 07:58:26 <-- nixor has kicked Xgates from ##slackware (flood) Jan 14 07:58:37 --> Xgates (~Xgates@xgates.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 07:58:41 that DAMM BOT Jan 14 07:58:41 :) Jan 14 07:58:56 oh boy I was really flooding there Jan 14 07:59:01 that DAMN FLOOD Jan 14 07:59:03 ;) Jan 14 07:59:17 I thought they fixed that thing Jan 14 07:59:22 UNCLE WIGGLy Jan 14 07:59:24 fix Da BoT Jan 14 08:00:00 I do have a question about kde on 9.1 Using konquerer as the file manager I use the tree/files display Jan 14 08:00:39 Sometimes but not consistantly when the mouse pointer is clicked on a floder to open it it will drag the folder Jan 14 08:01:23 A single click should open the folder not grab it and drag it Jan 14 08:01:36 --- fhobia is now known as awesomepossum Jan 14 08:01:43 --> four_o_one (~four_o_on@commons10k1.mo24.107.117.140.charter-stl.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 08:01:58 --- awesomepossum is now known as changeyournick Jan 14 08:02:12 <-- m-00kie has quit () Jan 14 08:02:18 I don't exactly know where to start looking... an XFree problem or a KDE problem Jan 14 08:03:30 --- changeyournick is now known as fhobia Jan 14 08:03:31 lab_rat, There's been a few changes in both since 9.1 Jan 14 08:04:19 I have all of the latest updates from slack but I suspect your talking about KDE 3.2 Jan 14 08:04:45 <-- spenser has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 08:05:00 also the change to Xorg Jan 14 08:05:31 Yeah, I was having a problem dragging before but it hasn't happened for a while. Either that or I became a better mouser Jan 14 08:06:31 Let me ask this... HOw much trouble am in for to change to Xorg and the latest KDE without moving to slack 10 Jan 14 08:06:36 Or if it's on that laptop you were talking about, maybe your not holding your head the right way Jan 14 08:07:00 <-- fhobia has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 08:07:17 lol eelriver... No it's not onthe laptop.. it's on a desktop Jan 14 08:07:43 I expect the laptop to do strange things..that's ok Jan 14 08:08:38 lab_rat, You would probably have to compile them, the Xorg and KDE packages were made using the shared libs and such in 10, Jan 14 08:09:44 Ok thanks... I better do some reading before I dig in.. If I knew it would fix the problem I would be more apt to dive right in Jan 14 08:09:50 <-- chodapp has quit () Jan 14 08:09:59 Xgates, the bot doesn't need fixing...you need to fix your flooding :o) Jan 14 08:11:08 I also hate to mess with a pretty much pristene 9.1 and turn it into a bastardized x between 10 and 9.1 Jan 14 08:12:17 ez Jan 14 08:12:20 ooops Jan 14 08:12:44 --> DaoPhung (~OhDao@81-86-75-188.dsl.pipex.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 08:13:05 people, I have slack10 with gnome2.6 Jan 14 08:14:14 and i want to mount a usbdisk Jan 14 08:14:19 how can i do this please? Jan 14 08:14:38 <-- Tukon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 08:14:54 hey ya everyone Jan 14 08:16:07 so i have a problem with my man pages...they dont' work ;/ Jan 14 08:16:31 --> umair (~umair@202.147.174.97) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 08:16:33 hi all Jan 14 08:16:42 hey guys..it worked... Jan 14 08:16:53 i just enabled all the commented out gettys and it worked.. Jan 14 08:16:55 :) Jan 14 08:18:54 info on the man pages: I just upgraded my stock 2.4.26 kernel to 2.10, got the source from Kernel.org...now when i try "man man" i get the first page of the man page, and then "error executing formating or display command System command /bin/bzip2 -t -d /usr/ma/cat1/info.1.bz2 | /usr/bin/less -is...." Jan 14 08:19:30 i tried getting the .tgz from slackware.com and installing it, but it does the same thing Jan 14 08:19:40 four_o_one, /www.pastebin.com/228718 Jan 14 08:19:42 Caveman, ifconfig is missing..which pacakge contains it? Jan 14 08:20:01 eelriverlt, do you know which package contains ifconfig? Jan 14 08:20:06 <-- neoslak has quit ("Linux, the free OS....except for your SOUL! MOUHAHAHAHA!") Jan 14 08:20:20 www.slackware.com/pb Jan 14 08:21:08 --> McDutchie (~martijn@inlv.demon.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 08:21:24 eelriverlt, am i supposed to run that code? Jan 14 08:21:49 <-- Epidemical has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 14 08:22:05 <-- Lupust has quit ("No Reason") Jan 14 08:22:15 --> Epidemical (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 08:22:22 no, your supposed to edit the file, or recompile your kernel w/o legecy pty support Jan 14 08:22:55 W|GG-Laptop: hehe I didn't flood I was just chatting Jan 14 08:22:57 :-) Jan 14 08:22:58 eelriverlt, right on, so that is what is causing it you think? Jan 14 08:23:06 Yes Jan 14 08:23:36 and i want to mount a usbdisk, does anyone know how to please? Jan 14 08:23:39 <-- McDutchie has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 08:23:47 the bot has threshholding and based on that threshholding, you were flooding. the bot is just doing what it was told to do by the ops :oP Jan 14 08:23:52 cool ill check that out...is that under character devices or do you remember? Jan 14 08:24:16 umair: um ipuitils ? Jan 14 08:24:21 W|GG-Laptop: wow you have to be careful just chatting a few lines then Jan 14 08:24:22 hehe Jan 14 08:24:42 What, the kernel config? Or the udev.rules file? Jan 14 08:24:42 not many people get kicked like that Jan 14 08:24:56 kernel config, i feel more comfortable doing that Jan 14 08:24:57 i think sandman1 has, but he always chats fast Jan 14 08:25:21 Caveman, its tcpip package..thnx eelriverlt ... found from slackware.com/pb\ Jan 14 08:25:36 rebooting again for the test Jan 14 08:25:44 <-- umair has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 08:26:49 I don't remember, it looks like this CONFIG_LEGACY_PTYS=y <--change to N Jan 14 08:30:13 <-- Lurkan has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 08:30:16 eelriverlt, do i have to restart after i do the change to that file? Jan 14 08:31:07 four_o_one, It's best, I hosed all my terms. trying to do it by just restarting udev Jan 14 08:31:10 --> chibo (~chibo@ip24-251-64-19.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 08:31:18 ok brb then Jan 14 08:31:34 <-- four_o_one has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 08:33:14 <_erik> something tells me he didn't recompile Jan 14 08:33:34 I don't know what he did Jan 14 08:34:04 --> jose1711 (~jose@195.113.99.254) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 08:36:47 --> Drago5 (drago5@CBL212-235-21-172.bb.netvision.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 08:37:06 <-- xemon has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 08:38:00 --> PuGz (~woodsb02@woodsb02.student.dialup.uwa.edu.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 08:39:14 --> four_o_one (~four_o_on@commons10k1.mo24.107.117.140.charter-stl.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 08:39:22 <-- flock has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 08:39:33 eelriverlt, thanks a bunch man, know better in the future Jan 14 08:43:22 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 08:45:09 cool, since that got figured out, my next deal is how do i work DHCP? i have a wireless card, and when i set up everything with iwconfig (essid,key,mode,channel,ect) and manually set an IP it works great, but if i type in "dhclient eth0" i get "no broadcast interfaces found" ...however it set the IP to the same network it will send out a discover but never get an offer so it can not complete the cycle..any ideas? Jan 14 08:45:44 dhcpcd Jan 14 08:45:49 <-- Drago5 (drago5@CBL212-235-21-172.bb.netvision.net.il) has left ##slackware ("Client exiting") Jan 14 08:46:08 skubee, dhcpd...ill check into it Jan 14 08:46:18 dhcpcd eth0 Jan 14 08:47:08 <-- DaoPhung (~OhDao@81-86-75-188.dsl.pipex.com) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 14 08:47:10 skubee, complains about a ddns-style-update in dhcpd.conf Jan 14 08:47:16 skubee, checking the man page now Jan 14 08:47:23 four_o_one: can u give me the 4o1 on how to change my setup from thinking the system clock is set to UTC rather than localtime? Jan 14 08:47:32 four_o_one, In /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf make sure USE_DHCP[0]="yes" for the eth* card you want to use Jan 14 08:48:21 theres also an rc.wireless you can look into. Jan 14 08:48:30 PuGz, pkgtool will let you run the setup portion again Jan 14 08:48:40 skubee, cool ill check it Jan 14 08:48:50 eelriverlt, checking that now Jan 14 08:49:42 four_o_one: cheers! Jan 14 08:50:00 PuGz, :) Jan 14 08:51:44 oh boy linux email bombing Jan 14 08:51:46 http://gitmail.sourceforge.net/ Jan 14 08:51:47 lol Jan 14 08:52:01 <-- crackjack has quit ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") Jan 14 08:52:08 --> popobsd (~xmms@211.162.76.253) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 08:52:56 eelriverlt, "$USE_DHCP[$1]}" = "yes" Jan 14 08:53:02 --> seemawn (~zomtec@p50811D24.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 08:53:19 eelriverlt, "${USE_DHCP[$1]}" = "yes" * Jan 14 08:54:42 four_o_one, Set it in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf not in rc.inet1 itself Jan 14 08:56:00 :) Jan 14 08:59:08 Bush Chimp comparision Jan 14 08:59:10 LMA) Jan 14 08:59:12 ---> http://www.slackcare.com/bushorchimp.jpg Jan 14 08:59:15 LMAO Jan 14 08:59:24 ohh thats to funny Jan 14 09:00:20 <_erik> wrong channel Jan 14 09:01:20 wow. theres a monthly fee now for slackcare? Jan 14 09:02:06 <-- jose1711 has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 09:02:44 ahh.. guess its not a monthly fee Jan 14 09:04:14 --> Epidemic1l (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 09:05:52 skubee: been like that for sometime, it's monthly Jan 14 09:06:10 guess thats why my username is missing Jan 14 09:08:48 --> four_o_one_ (~four_o_on@commons10k1.mo24.107.117.140.charter-stl.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 09:09:09 figure it out four_o_one ? Jan 14 09:09:29 <-- seemawn has quit () Jan 14 09:09:57 --> seemawn (~zomtec@p50811D24.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 09:10:55 <-- ximpul has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 09:10:58 <-- four_o_one has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 09:16:06 heh... guess not Jan 14 09:16:30 <-- Epidemical has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 09:17:02 skubee: you talking to me? Jan 14 09:17:25 to four_o_one Jan 14 09:17:28 k Jan 14 09:17:36 skubee, sorry didn't get your questoin? Jan 14 09:17:57 figure out your wireless setup? Jan 14 09:18:12 skubee, figured out how to use dpcpd yes....thanks a ton man Jan 14 09:18:28 you and eelriverlt helped me out alot ;p Jan 14 09:18:46 rc.wireless is a great convienience when you get it working right Jan 14 09:19:35 skubee, yeap...last box i just pluged in differnt things in rc.local ;/ Jan 14 09:19:56 :) Jan 14 09:20:52 --> dsabenz (~bodonQ@219.83.23.229) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 09:30:13 <-- jmedina has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 09:30:13 <-- logged has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 09:31:46 --> Polleke (polleke@polleke.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 09:32:54 Message: 17 Jan 14 09:32:55 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:50:07 +0700 Jan 14 09:32:55 From: "Agung windarto" Jan 14 09:32:55 Subject: Passwd decript howto Jan 14 09:32:55 Maap..mas..mas.. Jan 14 09:32:55 Saya ingin menanyakan ada gak ya program buat passwd/shadow decript? Jan 14 09:32:55 <-- nixor has kicked dsabenz from ##slackware (flood) Jan 14 09:33:15 --> dsabenz (~bodonQ@219.83.23.229) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 09:33:24 sorry ... wrong window :-( Jan 14 09:33:57 i have a problem with `df` and have describe it at http://www.geocities.com/junkshouse/df-question.txt. any solution for that problem? Jan 14 09:36:23 interesting problem you got there... i have no idea Jan 14 09:37:09 skubee: interesting ... but quite annoying :-) Jan 14 09:38:51 --> seemawn_ (~zomtec@p508101AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 09:43:43 --- _Cyberjames is now known as Cyberjames Jan 14 09:43:45 --> keanne (~riken@mnc04.mei.co.jp) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 09:44:50 --- nixor removes ban on *!*@*.br?.fod.ia.frontiernet.net Jan 14 09:46:31 --> Frost^ (~Weiss@tony02-24-197.inter.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 09:47:40 --> sami (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 09:47:57 --> tvn (~tvn@pool-151-205-192-107.cap.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 09:47:59 --> wobbles (~huntsman@171.cust2.sa.dsl.ozemail.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 09:49:34 <-- tvn has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 09:52:11 --> Epidemical (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 09:52:20 --> elwood (~io@ppp-62-11-186-31.dialup.tiscali.it) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 09:52:23 guys try this: www.nothing.net ... cool website lol is lame Jan 14 09:52:43 now i have another q... do i really have to replace the hdd when i got errs like DAM timeout ? Jan 14 09:52:43 :) Jan 14 09:52:50 anyone know how I can save files as SVG with gimp? Jan 14 09:52:54 the hd works fine but ... dunno Jan 14 09:53:20 i can open, but when I try to save, it fails ;\ Jan 14 09:53:30 <-- sami__ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 09:54:37 --> radiohead (~dev_loop@80.80.160.51) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 09:55:21 #slackware Jan 14 09:55:30 DAM timeout? Jan 14 09:56:09 <-- seemawn has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 09:56:46 hey is anyone running kde 3.4 Jan 14 09:57:31 nm, i feel like a turd Jan 14 09:57:36 didn't know 3.4 was out Jan 14 09:58:06 well its not Jan 14 09:58:10 beta1 is Jan 14 09:58:27 just wondering if the packages were likley to b0rk everything Jan 14 09:58:34 or if it just crashes a bit Jan 14 09:58:35 an, i got 3.3.2-r1 on my other box Jan 14 09:59:04 how can i join #slackware not ##slackware ? Jan 14 09:59:06 * sunbx smiles. Jan 14 09:59:14 <-- kobs_ has quit (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) Jan 14 09:59:23 can't Jan 14 09:59:27 sunbx, read the link in the topic Jan 14 09:59:36 now, technically, there is no #slackware Jan 14 10:00:09 this is the same channel as #slackware, just ##slackware Jan 14 10:02:21 --> rlm (~rlm@n216.isratek.edunet.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 10:03:31 <-- Epidemic1l has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 10:04:19 --> LSD`_ (~ianweb@dsl-202-173-161-62.wa.westnet.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 10:06:38 <-- kiwi_uk has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 10:10:17 <-- Frost^ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 10:10:51 sniz Does this help http://registry.gimp.org/list?name=svg Jan 14 10:18:31 --> bsdevious (~bsd@deadnetwork.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 10:19:12 <-- LSD` has quit (No route to host) Jan 14 10:19:54 sunbx: slackware channel moves on ## from #. Jan 14 10:20:47 <-- kerio2004 has quit () Jan 14 10:20:51 --> j-money (~eastwood@66-65-37-250.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 10:20:53 I finally have a raid working, but I had to get a different raid controller... Jan 14 10:20:58 eelriver: i kinda figured it out Jan 14 10:21:09 anyway, its working, but its slow :( how do I tune it up? Jan 14 10:21:21 gonna try out inkscape ;p Jan 14 10:21:21 eastwood@jmoney:~$ bsetbg imgs/dodge_magnum.jpg Jan 14 10:21:21 bsetbg: couldn't find a suitable image program. Jan 14 10:21:24 whats wrong there? Jan 14 10:21:53 j-money: you got imagemagick installed? Jan 14 10:22:01 j-money, well, roughly, Id say "bsetbg: couldn't find a suitable image program." Jan 14 10:22:06 oh no Jan 14 10:22:18 try it ;p Jan 14 10:22:24 k thanks Jan 14 10:22:28 bsetbg uses a image program... Jan 14 10:22:37 oh ok Jan 14 10:22:46 you can snag it from just about any slackware mirror Jan 14 10:22:49 <-- PuGz has quit ("leaving") Jan 14 10:23:17 is hdparm a good tool to test/compare disk/array performance ? Jan 14 10:23:51 could be Jan 14 10:24:06 sniz, well, if it is, my array sucks :( Jan 14 10:24:25 whats a good cd ripper? Jan 14 10:24:49 <-- four_o_one_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 10:25:04 I think grip is a popular one, but I dont use them... so i dont know what a good one is. Jan 14 10:25:36 <-- elwood has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 10:25:43 --> Frost^ (~Weiss@tony02-24-197.inter.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 10:25:48 cool Jan 14 10:25:59 <-- eelriverlt (~murph@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) has left ##slackware ("Gonna try something, I hope I'll be back") Jan 14 10:26:01 --> epic (~epic@220.80-202-211.nextgentel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 10:26:21 how can i change my gtk theme? Jan 14 10:27:12 --> elwood (~io@ppp-62-11-186-31.dialup.tiscali.it) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 10:27:43 I have 3 ide hard disks. all ata133, each on its own cable/controller. Jan 14 10:28:26 hda is 160 gb. hde/g are 200 gb ide disks (all maxtor, 8mb cache, and new). Jan 14 10:29:05 j-money: in kde or gnome? Jan 14 10:29:10 bb Jan 14 10:29:11 --> maddler (~maddler@195.110.158.19) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 10:29:15 o Jan 14 10:29:15 hda is onboard ide controller (asus MB), hde/g are on a pci ide raid controller Jan 14 10:29:46 I get about 57 MB/s performance on hda Jan 14 10:29:53 <-- Frost^ has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 10:29:54 lets see... isn't there a menu when you right click, it should say something like "system->theme" Jan 14 10:30:05 I get about 45 MB/s on hde or g Jan 14 10:30:17 I get about 50mbs on /dev/md0 Jan 14 10:30:41 j-money: modify your `.gtkrc' and/or `.gtkrc-2.0' files Jan 14 10:30:43 my non raid drive is faster than my raid array. Jan 14 10:31:02 cool Jan 14 10:31:23 --> Frost^ (~Weiss@tony02-24-197.inter.net.il) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 10:31:27 hmm i dont have any gtkrc file Jan 14 10:31:39 create one Jan 14 10:31:50 Im not seeing how a stripped array is any faster than a single disk. Jan 14 10:31:56 mine reads: include "/home/express/themes/Glacier 3.x/gtk/gtkrc" Jan 14 10:32:04 bubba_: write twice, read twice. Jan 14 10:32:10 oo k thx Jan 14 10:32:17 welcome Jan 14 10:32:18 i love u guys Jan 14 10:32:20 Tubez, ? how do you mean? Jan 14 10:32:22 <-- Polleke has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 10:32:27 <-- dsabenz has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 10:33:04 bubba_: well, usually the idea behind striping is that you use two drives in parallel so you can get twice the throughput. Of course, under ideal conditions. Jan 14 10:33:22 u know what i always wonder why bb dont have a lil desktop icons thingy n shit Jan 14 10:33:50 bb as in blackbox? Jan 14 10:33:59 ya Jan 14 10:34:06 j-money: that is available Jan 14 10:34:12 werd! Jan 14 10:34:17 only I forget the name of the program :/ Jan 14 10:34:17 fluxbox has a little app called fbdesk for desktop icons Jan 14 10:34:21 :( Jan 14 10:34:40 Tubez, yeah, I guess I prefer to think of it as splitting the data over 2 controllers/drives. Jan 14 10:34:41 you could always switch to flux :) Jan 14 10:34:57 --> Epidemic1l (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 10:35:12 when I used fluxbox i used vdesk Jan 14 10:35:14 --> war- (war@oper.us) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 10:35:19 for icons, it was decent Jan 14 10:35:39 I wonder... If I take the dvd rom off, I can put the 200 gb disks on the secondary ide controller... Jan 14 10:35:40 it was a while ago, when fbdesk was being born, it was really buggy. Jan 14 10:35:47 bubba_: yeah, but the idea is that you split every datum down the middle, so to speak. Anyway, in my experience striping is only good for boasting to your friends and losing data :D Jan 14 10:35:55 hrm so flux is betta den bb Jan 14 10:36:04 noo Jan 14 10:36:10 k Jan 14 10:36:13 talking about fbdesk Jan 14 10:36:28 Tubez, well, im interested in fast hardware at a minimal cost... Jan 14 10:36:30 i never really used blackbox much Jan 14 10:36:38 fluxbox is essentially an extension of blackbox code Jan 14 10:36:38 o Jan 14 10:36:52 what about openbox? Jan 14 10:37:05 bubba_: then gettign a single fast drive is almost always cheaper than gettign two :D Jan 14 10:37:18 hmm whats the next name for the box:) Jan 14 10:37:22 narrowbox Jan 14 10:37:27 Tubez, how does that make sense? Jan 14 10:37:28 longbox Jan 14 10:37:38 j-money: fluxbox is a fork of blackbox as blackbox hasntn't been maintained Jan 14 10:37:53 ok Jan 14 10:38:02 dickbox Jan 14 10:38:06 bubba_: never mind me. It's just my striping allergy speaking. Jan 14 10:38:19 j-money: check out the fluxbox beta... i think you'll like it Jan 14 10:38:25 i'll stick with the big boys like kde/gnome :D Jan 14 10:38:25 --> kiwi_uk (~kiwi_uk@212.219.225.104) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 10:38:31 but i like bb cuz is nice n simple Jan 14 10:38:43 i was just wonderin bout da desktop thingy shit Jan 14 10:38:49 flux is cool, but i prefer E Jan 14 10:39:02 so far, not too keen on .17 though... Jan 14 10:39:09 <-- chibo has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 10:39:11 flux kept to the mimialist ideal... just has more features Jan 14 10:39:17 whats like the main wm ppl use now n days besides kde and gnome Jan 14 10:39:30 flux Jan 14 10:39:45 e Jan 14 10:39:48 XFCE. Jan 14 10:39:50 open Jan 14 10:39:54 that to Jan 14 10:39:54 Tubez, heh! Jan 14 10:39:55 It's just too neat. Jan 14 10:40:00 hehe Jan 14 10:40:20 been a while but i didn't care for it Jan 14 10:40:26 i hear so much about the new xfce. i must try it one day Jan 14 10:40:29 anybody listens to hiphop music i make beats im a producer Jan 14 10:40:30 Tubez, oh, I thought you says XPDE... I tried that ... cracked me up! Jan 14 10:41:10 j-money: what kind of hiphop Jan 14 10:41:14 :P Jan 14 10:41:28 see for yaself http://jmoney.homeip.net/ Jan 14 10:41:32 :o Jan 14 10:41:33 u can download dem Jan 14 10:41:41 tell me what u think 2 Jan 14 10:41:49 gangsta Jan 14 10:41:54 LOL Jan 14 10:42:02 yeah im from new york city Jan 14 10:42:11 manhattan Jan 14 10:42:14 bang bang! Jan 14 10:42:27 checkin out cake off Jan 14 10:42:29 <-- lab_rat has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 10:42:39 yeah dats a rapper from the diplomats Jan 14 10:42:49 they a rap group Jan 14 10:42:58 dey're pretty big Jan 14 10:43:28 Cake has a cool version of "I Will Survive" Jan 14 10:43:34 the 1st 26 of dem are instrumental Jan 14 10:43:35 Dey don't spell reel good ? Jan 14 10:43:40 cake is from da nba theme Jan 14 10:43:59 mmmmm cake. Jan 14 10:44:04 lol Jan 14 10:44:08 im hungry Jan 14 10:44:11 bout to cook Jan 14 10:44:31 hehe... i thought he meant jr rider Jan 14 10:44:39 then i looked at his name Jan 14 10:44:40 LOL Jan 14 10:44:54 --> okmeufilho (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 10:45:02 damn, now I have to clean my kitchen, go to the store, bake a cake.... when did this become the food channel? Jan 14 10:45:09 http://www2.rocafella.com/diplomats/ Jan 14 10:45:12 thats them Jan 14 10:45:31 lol @ bubba_ Jan 14 10:45:42 im bout to get high Jan 14 10:45:54 --> eelriverlt (~murph@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 10:46:11 dude, your late, its 4:44 there! Jan 14 10:46:35 <-- Epidemical has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 10:46:42 lol Jan 14 10:46:44 so Jan 14 10:46:48 i smoke everyday Jan 14 10:46:52 everyhour Jan 14 10:47:00 <-- StarScream has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 10:47:04 we dont sleep out here Jan 14 10:47:16 everybody sell drugs in da nite Jan 14 10:47:25 hope ders no fbi in here Jan 14 10:47:26 And don't use the Enter key much either Jan 14 10:47:45 LOL! k Jan 14 10:48:28 j-money, well... with all that going for it, its no wonder everyone and their dog wants to live there. Jan 14 10:48:39 hey one more ? how i wget but to dl all da files Jan 14 10:49:10 j-money, use the -m (mirror) its the easiest way to backup a website/ftp dir... Jan 14 10:49:38 j-money, you could also read the man page... thers like 50 options for wget. Jan 14 10:49:47 cool thx Jan 14 10:49:52 j-money, you are going to DIE!! Jan 14 10:49:57 why Jan 14 10:50:03 lol Jan 14 10:50:06 lol Jan 14 10:50:07 because nobody lives forever Jan 14 10:50:13 okmeufilho, who isnt? Jan 14 10:50:16 shit i do Jan 14 10:50:29 im down wit the xmen Jan 14 10:50:41 <-- kiwi_uk has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 10:50:43 everyone knows weed prolongs life Jan 14 10:50:51 j-money, I like gals. Jan 14 10:50:57 <-- clingen has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 14 10:51:14 somehow i don't think its weed that is pumping through j-money's veins Jan 14 10:51:15 --> kiwi_uk (~kiwi_uk@212.219.225.104) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 10:51:31 LOL Jan 14 10:51:33 I asked a gay frined what it was like kissing a guy, you know, with stubble, mustache/beard.... Jan 14 10:51:35 i like that dream track Jan 14 10:51:40 thx Jan 14 10:51:46 phiend, Jan 14 10:51:47 stupidest damn question Ive ever asked. Jan 14 10:51:48 phrag, Jan 14 10:51:53 why I am banned?? Jan 14 10:52:11 heh, bubba_ Jan 14 10:52:14 --- _kop_ is now known as kop Jan 14 10:52:15 bubba_, hahahahaha Jan 14 10:52:20 bubba_, is it true?? Jan 14 10:52:54 true... his reply was a big smile, and he softly said "its great!". Jan 14 10:53:08 hahahaaahahaa Jan 14 10:53:14 I was like... uhh ok. dumb question.... Jan 14 10:53:31 does he still your friend? Jan 14 10:53:42 does he ever tried to kiss you?? Jan 14 10:53:43 okmeufilho: what Jan 14 10:53:51 okmeufilho, well, Ive moved and havnt seen him in over 10 years... but he was cool. Jan 14 10:53:59 welp... j-money you got skills ill give you that... now if jr writer could rap in beat... :) Jan 14 10:54:04 oh... Jan 14 10:54:04 okmeufilho, ofcourse not!' Jan 14 10:54:15 bubba_, hehe Jan 14 10:54:23 okmeufilho: what Jan 14 10:54:25 skubee, he is thats the new way of rappin ou here Jan 14 10:54:25 Of course not kiss or of course not friend? Jan 14 10:54:28 thats the new style Jan 14 10:54:32 okmeufilho, I dont have that problem with women eihter sadly. Jan 14 10:54:37 * wobbles checks the topic to make sure he is realy in the right channel Jan 14 10:54:41 i c Jan 14 10:54:48 --> logged (1000@rrcs-24-227-56-178.se.biz.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 10:55:04 <-- seemawn_ has quit () Jan 14 10:55:06 wobbles, if you wanna talk only about PCs you CANT be a alive person Jan 14 10:55:15 * radiohead is downloading kde-3.4 beta1 "krokodile" :) Jan 14 10:55:37 <-- elwood has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 10:56:00 hmmm... Jan 14 10:56:53 looks like i finally got this laptop to stop crashing during an smb transfer Jan 14 10:58:16 well.. its 2am here... im tired.... good nite. Jan 14 10:58:26 lata Jan 14 10:59:51 --> kobs (kobs@indecoro.us) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 11:03:49 configure: error: libcurl headers are missing Jan 14 11:03:55 whats that Jan 14 11:04:11 --> ptlo (~senko@darguner.rdlab.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 11:06:37 n/m Jan 14 11:09:33 bubba_, hehe Jan 14 11:09:42 --> elwood (~io@ppp-62-11-186-101.dialup.tiscali.it) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 11:10:18 <-- eelriverlt has quit () Jan 14 11:10:20 i just installed curl and its asking for me curl libs is missing? Jan 14 11:11:11 check the l folder in the install cd for libcurl Jan 14 11:11:26 thx Jan 14 11:11:36 if its not there then try ldconfig Jan 14 11:12:24 --> StevenR (~foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 11:16:11 <-- okmeufilho has quit ("Fui embora") Jan 14 11:20:51 <-- express_ has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 11:20:59 --> TaQ (~TaQ@200.211.78.140) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 11:21:52 --> Epidemical (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 11:22:40 --> stevo (1001@user-2iveraa.dialup.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 11:23:13 hello. i'm curious if anyone in here does shell hosting Jan 14 11:24:40 --> DieRatte (~Reilly@pD95F25E8.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 11:25:34 are you looking for a shell? Jan 14 11:25:34 btw... anyone know how I write to restart sshd? Jan 14 11:26:00 yes i am Jan 14 11:26:04 stevo: free shells > http://www.ductape.net/~mitja/freeunix.shtml Jan 14 11:26:22 dunz0r: /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd restart should work Jan 14 11:26:49 skubee: thnx alot Jan 14 11:26:58 does that give me c++? Jan 14 11:27:08 was getting a bit annoyed at having to reboot everytime Jan 14 11:27:08 checking it out Jan 14 11:27:14 dunno stevo Jan 14 11:27:22 stevo, i prefer http://www.rootshell.be :) Jan 14 11:27:35 <-- elwood has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 11:27:37 they let you compile your own code Jan 14 11:27:40 there you go stevo Jan 14 11:28:06 you have to wait a bit for your registration to get through Jan 14 11:28:12 since it's approved manually Jan 14 11:28:34 they as in both providers? Jan 14 11:29:03 haha Jan 14 11:29:07 i was already at that page Jan 14 11:29:09 nullvalue meant rootshell.be Jan 14 11:29:18 small internet Jan 14 11:29:46 <-- maddler has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 14 11:30:12 --> maddler (~maddler@195.110.158.19) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 11:30:49 --> toshin (~toshin@nat.w-s.pl) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 11:30:58 <-- eelriver has quit () Jan 14 11:31:15 --> SlackFart (~el_fart0@dc51468581.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 11:31:45 nullvalue, it says they dont allow IRC. do you think i can still connect through a bot? Jan 14 11:32:04 im thinking what they mean is, they dont have a client installed Jan 14 11:32:20 i doubt you'd be able to use a bot Jan 14 11:32:22 oh darn Jan 14 11:32:30 no they dont allow connections to/from irc Jan 14 11:32:32 it says they dont allow bots Jan 14 11:32:56 stevo, you can telnet to the irc server :) Jan 14 11:33:05 heh Jan 14 11:33:11 <-- ryen has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 11:33:13 what do you need a shell for? Jan 14 11:33:35 yea i was thinking that Jan 14 11:33:38 for a bot Jan 14 11:33:39 --> Venson (~Venson@user-0cdf60m.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 11:33:54 i was going to try and hack some games Jan 14 11:33:58 and use it as a scorebot Jan 14 11:34:07 well, I could give you a shell Jan 14 11:34:12 Hey all, anyone know where to get a festival (speech engine) slackpack? Jan 14 11:35:12 <-- j-money has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 11:35:26 DieRatte that would rule Jan 14 11:35:34 you got lots of uptime? Jan 14 11:35:50 24/7 Jan 14 11:36:55 <-- Epidemic1l has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 11:41:16 stevo: http://www.zerged.com/faq.php Jan 14 11:42:06 --> xemon (~zxemon@65.171.164.98) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 11:42:30 ah n/m Jan 14 11:43:11 <-- Venson has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 11:43:42 i never figured how to use festival... i have it on my fedora box Jan 14 11:46:56 --> sami_ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 11:48:47 bleh.. dunno why i was scared to upgrade to current.. so simple im suspicious Jan 14 11:52:21 <-- sami has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 11:53:17 <-- war- has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 11:55:29 --> war- (war@oper.us) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 11:57:39 <-- keanne has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 11:58:14 --> jjdm (~jjdm@84-72-61-16.dclient.hispeed.ch) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:01:19 --- tewmten_ is now known as tewmten Jan 14 12:04:39 --> Epidemic1l (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:05:52 <-- jackflash has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 12:09:36 hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Jan 14 12:09:51 hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } bah hate this thing Jan 14 12:09:59 my stats teacher is an idiot... Jan 14 12:10:01 "So, we've got S1 exam next week." "Actually, sir, the exam finished 10 minutes ago" Jan 14 12:10:05 lo fred87 :) Jan 14 12:10:20 --> Dominian (~dominian@dominian.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:10:27 echo Dominian Jan 14 12:10:50 lo Jan 14 12:10:51 --> jackflash (~jf@cpc2-rdng8-4-0-cust187.winn.cable.ntl.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:11:09 * fred87 has found yet another package wihtout a SlackBuild... Jan 14 12:11:20 hi! i got error from my imap server that stated '* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS STARTTLS AUTH=LOGIN]'. What I shall gonna do? Jan 14 12:11:54 <-- toshin has quit ("-") Jan 14 12:12:14 That doesn't look like an error Cyberjames Jan 14 12:12:24 <-- nomasteryoda has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 12:12:36 Dominian: i see Jan 14 12:12:51 That looks like a status message. Jan 14 12:13:18 Dominian: but when i try to login in the server using kmail and apply imap for receiving msg's, pop-up window showed like that. Jan 14 12:13:33 Welll, did you try checking google... I have no idea what that error is. Jan 14 12:13:38 If in fact it is an error Jan 14 12:13:50 --> sami____ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:14:46 --> duardo (~Eduardo@200.168.58.218) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:15:47 <-- maddler has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 14 12:15:47 <-- ptlo has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 14 12:15:47 <-- rlm has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 14 12:15:47 <-- mmu_man has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 14 12:15:47 <-- Neurotoxin has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 14 12:15:47 <-- rh0` has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 14 12:15:47 <-- XGizzmo has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 14 12:15:47 <-- web_knows has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 14 12:15:47 <-- AeroFoam has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 14 12:15:47 <-- radius has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 14 12:15:47 <-- X[z]X has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 14 12:15:47 <-- idaho45 has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 14 12:15:47 <-- ataxic has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 14 12:15:47 <-- BiGi has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 14 12:15:47 <-- foureyes779 has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 14 12:15:47 <-- Cueball has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 14 12:15:47 <-- jufo has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 14 12:15:48 <-- ZipKid has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 14 12:15:48 <-- DagaZ has quit (benford.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Jan 14 12:17:34 wow Jan 14 12:17:45 class over or what? Jan 14 12:18:16 nah.. freenode freakin' out Jan 14 12:18:24 talk about a mass exodus Jan 14 12:18:41 <-- Epidemical has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 12:18:47 Dominian: or mybe there was a bomb alert Jan 14 12:18:52 :) Jan 14 12:18:55 phiend: heh Jan 14 12:19:13 --> straterra (~straterra@user-0cdv04l.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:19:30 <-- StevenR has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 12:20:54 --> maddler (~maddler@195.110.158.19) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:20:54 --> ptlo (~senko@darguner.rdlab.carnet.hr) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:20:54 --> rlm (~rlm@n216.isratek.edunet.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:20:54 --> mmu_man (revol@ALyon-112-1-4-6.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:20:54 --> Neurotoxin (1001@nc-65-40-164-133.sta.sprint-hsd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:20:54 --> rh0` (~rolando@205.241.35.189) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:20:54 --> XGizzmo (1001@xgizzmo.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:20:54 --> web_knows (~noname@webknows-0001.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:20:54 --> AeroFoam (~aerofoam@68-185-0-156.or.charter.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:20:54 --> radius (cube@bixxnet.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:20:54 --> ZipKid (~ZipKid@d51A48DD0.kabel.telenet.be) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:20:54 --> X[z]X (~xzx@bzq-218-90-241.red.bezeqint.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:20:54 --> idaho45 (~john@201.243.31.212) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:20:54 --> ataxic (~ataxic@a84-230-67-1.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:20:54 --> BiGi (~XXXL@c3eea6219.cable.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:20:54 --> foureyes779 (~theron@65-102-149-233.tukw.qwest.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:20:54 --> Cueball (~lee@lb3.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:20:54 --> jufo (jufo@ufo.mylly.jyu.fi) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:20:54 --> DagaZ (~urwhatuea@klover193.bitnet.nu) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:22:03 its like efnet Jan 14 12:23:51 stevo: heh Jan 14 12:24:03 --> tintin (1000@219.64.133.25) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 12:24:49 <-- mmu_man has quit ("Vision[0.9.6-0203]: i've been blurred!") 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Jan 14 12:59:06 <-- bert2002|work has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 14 13:00:10 --> zuurcool (~zuurcool@zuurcool.xs4all.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:04:59 --> Ahil (~Ahil@213.240.224.47) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:07:17 <-- Epidemic1l has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 13:10:34 --> [4a-52-4d] (~rogue@adsl-69-232-115-112.dsl.bkfd14.pacbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:11:25 <-- sunbx has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 13:14:05 --> NeoLaptop (~NeoLaptop@24.177.219.254) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:19:28 <-- deufo has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 13:20:10 * NeoLaptop cracks open a bud light Jan 14 13:20:47 --> nicre (~nicre@Toronto-HSE-ppp3658279.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:21:18 I need to transfer some portions of one hard disk to another. Jan 14 13:21:24 How can I go about doing this? Jan 14 13:21:32 nicre, "man cp" Jan 14 13:21:46 map cp? Jan 14 13:21:56 yeah, the manual page to cp (copy) command Jan 14 13:22:21 How do I connect the hard disks? Jan 14 13:22:31 I have an old computer system and a new one. Jan 14 13:22:40 uh, you connect them with cables Jan 14 13:23:18 you're saying you want to copy files from one computer to another? do both use linux? Jan 14 13:23:18 What kind of cable? Jan 14 13:23:25 No. Jan 14 13:23:33 what OS do each of them use? Jan 14 13:23:53 Linux and XP. Jan 14 13:24:03 New is laptop with XP. Jan 14 13:24:04 i'd suggest learning how to set up samba Jan 14 13:24:05 nicre, samba Jan 14 13:24:17 samba comes with linux Jan 14 13:24:20 er, with slackware Jan 14 13:24:25 I cannot do much with the old system because the monitor blinks out. Jan 14 13:24:44 you need to swap monitors or something so that you can set up samba on it Jan 14 13:24:58 or use ssh Jan 14 13:25:05 OR you can download the PUTTY client for windows, etc, log into the machine using SSH, but then again, i think it would be easier to connect the monitor for now Jan 14 13:25:18 er, wait, laptop, nevermind Jan 14 13:25:21 get putty lol Jan 14 13:25:23 putty? why not winscp? :P Jan 14 13:25:24 * NeoLaptop smacks himself Jan 14 13:25:28 or winscp Jan 14 13:25:28 whatever Jan 14 13:25:30 I have another system with Windows on it also. Is it simpler transferring Windows files to Windows? Jan 14 13:25:37 putty doesn't let you transfer files Jan 14 13:25:43 nicre, it should be very very easy Jan 14 13:25:49 nullvalue: pscp does... Jan 14 13:25:54 part of putty Jan 14 13:26:05 * NeoLaptop sighs and hands nicre a gun "just shoot windows in the head" Jan 14 13:26:06 well yeah... but it's through a blimey terminal :P Jan 14 13:26:07 How I imagine is it I connect the computers and I see the other one virtually Jan 14 13:26:18 select portions to copy, and proceed. Jan 14 13:26:20 nullvalue: so... Jan 14 13:26:21 Is this possible? Jan 14 13:26:22 nicre, you can .tar.gz your files and scp them onto win box Jan 14 13:26:53 however, bottom line is that dude needs to learn :D Jan 14 13:26:59 hehe Jan 14 13:27:08 nicre, you can install cygwin and run sshd on your xp :) Jan 14 13:27:16 * NeoLaptop barfs Jan 14 13:27:27 emulators < native mode Jan 14 13:27:32 :D Jan 14 13:27:37 (unless it's windows you're emulating, then emulators on linux > windows) Jan 14 13:27:41 cygwin is no emulator :P Jan 14 13:27:54 * NeoLaptop is tempted to say linux > windows ... Jan 14 13:28:29 sad how these days people want a quick solution / fix, never learning how or why (until some cracker bites them in the rear) Jan 14 13:28:32 you have to compile it from src to get it to work Jan 14 13:29:15 however there is an add-on to cygwin that allows you to run native linux apps :) Jan 14 13:29:19 'line' :D Jan 14 13:29:24 neo, why would one want to learn about just anything? Jan 14 13:30:05 i think i would be better off devoting my efforts to my lover, for instance. true or false? Jan 14 13:30:15 false Jan 14 13:30:49 you truly have no devotion for linux :P Jan 14 13:31:09 nicre, lover? uh, maybe you need an upgrade: get married :D Jan 14 13:31:25 :S Jan 14 13:31:53 <-- we2by has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 13:32:16 --> dUc0n (1001@80.148.24.24) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:32:19 --> spenser (~spenser@user-0c8hmse.cable.mindspring.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:32:23 --> d3ity (1000@207.172.254.149) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:32:23 --- nixor sets ban on *!*@207.172.254.149 Jan 14 13:32:24 <-- nixor has kicked d3ity from ##slackware (banned: d3ity - perm ban - constant trolling) Jan 14 13:32:30 sup peoples Jan 14 13:33:17 <-- xemon has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 13:33:18 --> maddler (~maddler@195.110.158.19) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:33:19 i am not a very good cook either. i am very well with a maid handling that. it is important to set boundaries in life. what do you really want? Jan 14 13:33:34 <-- maddler has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 13:33:35 at the end of the day, linux is just a tool to me. Jan 14 13:34:01 nicre, true, software is only good for what you can use it to do Jan 14 13:34:25 i should've dumped kword and abiword, i guess, since they don't have "understandable" replace variables Jan 14 13:34:43 good afternoon Jan 14 13:34:50 abiword is a good piece of software. Jan 14 13:35:19 --> Epidemic1l (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:36:07 --> DrBoB (1000@0-1pool40-20.nas2.little-rock1.ar.us.da.qwest.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:36:11 <-- DrBoB has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 13:36:13 I'm trying to install libgtkspell so I can use Gaim 1.1.1 on Slackware 10.0, but when I run make, it halts with "unable to parse ../gtkspell-docs.sgml". Anyone know what could cause that? Jan 14 13:36:30 I checked the file, and it's the same as I downloaded it, and the md5 was good Jan 14 13:36:41 yeah, until you can't figure out why regexp replace don't work even though your regexp you entered is valid Jan 14 13:36:45 I also ran it as root, so it's not permissions... Jan 14 13:36:59 --> xemon (~zxemon@65.171.164.98) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:37:10 i had to generate 3 tests 125 questions long and do text formatting and editing, eventually i gave up on trying to automate and did it in kedit Jan 14 13:37:25 i should've opened m$ word, as i can say replace (^?^?^?) with "" Jan 14 13:37:34 linux > microsoft Jan 14 13:37:39 NeoLaptop, use OpenOffice instead =-P Jan 14 13:37:41 (until you realize that programs are used) Jan 14 13:37:49 I used it on my winblows box Jan 14 13:37:56 <-- Epidemical has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 13:38:08 dUc0n, sure, ok, let me download a 40mb file to install a 100mb program for what? a replace-all that actually works? sorry, word came with my laptop, and i was at work without internet Jan 14 13:38:21 NeoLaptop: latex. Jan 14 13:38:24 --> qmasterrr (1000@pD9FF5A9F.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:38:36 Tubez, again, learning time < something i already know Jan 14 13:38:38 NeoLaptop: best thing ever. Just define a "question" environemnt and then go Jan 14 13:38:44 NeoLaptop, well, that's a different story :o) Jan 14 13:38:57 Oh well, i wont go on and on and on about it then :D Jan 14 13:39:00 i'm not b*tching, honest, just saying that things need to change Jan 14 13:39:11 i'll go ask the koffice people if they can tell me why it won't work Jan 14 13:39:32 * dUc0n wonders if there's a gaim channel... Jan 14 13:39:32 NeoLaptop: you are totally right. A lot of stuff sucks. Jan 14 13:39:47 NeoLaptop: i mean, come on, have you looked at the mess surroundign wifi cards? Jan 14 13:39:55 Or laptops in general? Jan 14 13:40:09 Tubez, no, i have an intel centrino, source code for drivers and the firmware are all made freely available by intel Jan 14 13:40:13 ipw2200 Jan 14 13:40:20 <-- msamsing has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 14 13:40:25 however, i'm too lazy to compile it, as i don't use wireless at all right now Jan 14 13:40:32 Lucky. Soem other chipset owners arent that lucky :D Jan 14 13:40:36 Winblows is only worthwhile for gaming, and even that's starting to change pretty quick, especially with Cedega's work Jan 14 13:40:38 well i did tons of research :D Jan 14 13:40:44 i got ipw2200 too Jan 14 13:41:08 best advice: burn knoppix, go to stores, ask to try linux on the laptop before you buy, only buy the one on which EVERYTHING works right Jan 14 13:41:08 dUc0n: Dunno man. I can do almost everythign on linux, but that does not mean it's better for everything. Jan 14 13:41:21 yeah, well, sadly, no OS > * Jan 14 13:41:31 all OSes have their pros and cons, just some more than others Jan 14 13:41:34 NeoLaptop, what laptop do you have ? Jan 14 13:41:36 dUc0n: let's be honest, MS Office vs. OO.o is no contest. Jan 14 13:41:39 <-- rlm has quit ("Ïîêèäàþ") Jan 14 13:41:50 * tewmten uses Star Office :) Jan 14 13:41:57 SUN gave me a cd with it Jan 14 13:42:00 --> NoNick (1001@184-98.244.81.adsl.skynet.be) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:42:11 I would like to get thogugh a presentation without ooImpress doing somethign funny on me. Jan 14 13:42:13 Tubez, My standpoint is this... if Windows is what someone likes, go ahead and wrestle with it, but at *least* use the new Mozilla suite (Firefox/Thunderbird) so it's not so damn insecure Jan 14 13:42:27 smps, toshiba satellite (centrino, dothan, etc, 1.5ghz pentium-M) Jan 14 13:42:31 dUc0n: no excuse for IE, agree there. Jan 14 13:42:32 NeoLaptop: well, for a hardcore programmer linux/bsd is surely better, when he wants to go to the first level of forming he's OS :) Jan 14 13:42:36 Tubez, correct, i just can't see an advantage to using ms office. Jan 14 13:43:02 NeoLaptop Neur0 Neurotoxin Jan 14 13:43:12 sdogi_, not always, but technically it should be. Jan 14 13:43:17 spenser: mind you , i say that reluctantly. If oo.o were as good as MSO, it would make my life a LOT easier. Jan 14 13:43:24 NeoLaptop, i got dothan too 1.6, but acpi doesnt work 100%, i dont see my battery and ac adapter Jan 14 13:43:27 OO.o is good on Windows too, and I'm sure there are other replacements for Microsucks software that normally ships-with Jan 14 13:44:00 Tubez, what's wrong with oo.o? Jan 14 13:44:26 smps, well mine on slackware-current doesn't, but mandrake 10.1 hibernate and suspend work flawlessly. Jan 14 13:44:37 Tubez, "as good" is a very subjective statement. Jan 14 13:45:22 spenser: It's "good enough" for most things, with a few exceptions. Check spelling as you type eats up a lot of memory. On my 256 MB workstation, if i right click it takes a full minute (no kidding) before i get suggestions. Jan 14 13:45:57 spenser: ooImpress is really bad at handlign any kind of embedded type, even on windows. Embedded movies are particularly problematic. Jan 14 13:46:33 Embedded formulae export badly. Jan 14 13:46:35 --> maddler (~maddler@195.110.158.19) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:46:48 Nothing major, just a series of things that MS fixed in office thorugh the years. Jan 14 13:46:59 NeoLaptop, i recompiled kernel etc.. (2.6.9 and 2.6.10), but no one of them sees battery and ac Jan 14 13:47:05 Tubez, export to what? Jan 14 13:47:14 smps, i dunno bro Jan 14 13:47:16 NeoLaptop, i got acer , and how i think , acpi does not even handle with battery Jan 14 13:47:41 well honestly companies make computers cheaper by using stuff made cheaper. cheap hardware isn't usually linux friendly Jan 14 13:49:13 --> HW_Asleep (Hard_warE@220-244-236-51-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:49:45 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Ottawa-ppp325400.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:49:59 spenser: PP. BUt i guess that's understandable. Jan 14 13:50:24 NeoLaptop: depends. hackers got no money, so there is a huge incentive to make cheap stuff work. Jan 14 13:50:48 ? Jan 14 13:50:52 NeoLaptop: as logn as there is enough of it floatign around and there is no barrier preventing people fromn working on it (can you say firmware) Jan 14 13:51:23 NeoLaptop, acer have their own protocol to measure battery and ac Jan 14 13:51:25 I mean, realteks are probably the worst network adapters in existence, but their sheer numbers make for great drivers :D Jan 14 13:52:08 yeah, and that's another thing: some companies customize their stuff, which makes for problems. on mine, the battery isn't found by 2.4.28 kernel. Jan 14 13:52:18 but i can see how much battery i have ... Jan 14 13:53:20 Anyone care to help me with my gtkspell problem? 0_o Jan 14 13:53:40 --> Mellen (~tmh@195.135.216.1) has joined ##Slackware Jan 14 13:53:44 hello Jan 14 13:53:54 I'm trying to install libgtkspell so I can use Gaim 1.1.1 on Slackware 10.0, but when I run make, it halts with "unable to parse ../gtkspell-docs.sgml" Jan 14 13:54:45 Anyone got any experience with fiberchannel cards on slackware? Slackware is running mount -a too fast after loading the module for the fiberchannel. Jan 14 13:54:50 neo: yeah i am trying to find a laptop to buy myself, gonna get an IBM only because it's a no brainer to get it to work with slack Jan 14 13:55:23 nologo: quick, hurry up before they are ruined by whoever bought the thinkpad name. Jan 14 13:55:36 yeah gonna get a t42 Jan 14 13:55:44 <-- alindeman has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 14 13:55:52 Nice. Jan 14 13:55:52 * dUc0n beats GTKSpell with a stick Jan 14 13:56:07 yeah well i'd rather get a toshiba or alienware Jan 14 13:56:24 nologo, toshiba is well supported Jan 14 13:56:31 --> Kurt (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:56:42 I have no major qualms abotu my Vaio except for the winmodem. Jan 14 13:56:43 yeah it is but i want the new one the Qosmio Jan 14 13:56:44 i have 2 thinkpads and love them both. Jan 14 13:56:54 BUt i havent actually used a modem in 5 years. Jan 14 13:56:58 One is an old 560 and this one is a T23 Jan 14 13:57:03 yeah i need a modem Jan 14 13:57:11 i dont know ppl Jan 14 13:57:22 all this modems in newer laptops are winmodems Jan 14 13:57:28 i'm only getting it because i am travelling Jan 14 13:57:28 dUc0n, uh, i think gaim 1.0.4 is in 10/patches (and possibly with gtkspell, not sure) Jan 14 13:57:38 Btw, my lappie is up for reinstall. Anyone care to sugest a distro that is specifically lappie-friendly? Jan 14 13:57:48 winmodems truly suck: a truly fresh look at corporate ripoffs: a modem without its own processor, so it rapes your cpu Jan 14 13:58:03 and also, it only works in windows, for added anal pain Jan 14 13:58:04 Tubez, what kind of processor is in it? Jan 14 13:58:09 --> we2by (~chatzilla@dc5146d009.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:58:11 spenser: Duron 1 gig Jan 14 13:58:19 NeoLaptop, But when I tried to run Gaim 1.1.1, it gripes about not being able to find gtkspell... Jan 14 13:58:24 With some stupid ATI card. Jan 14 13:58:26 Tubez, slackware :) Jan 14 13:58:33 Tubez, mandrake hands down, unless you're willing to pay for suse 9.2. however, i'd still use slackware-current (as i am doing right now) Jan 14 13:58:42 dUc0n, then just don't use that feature Jan 14 13:58:43 Tubez, what level of linux user are you? newie or somewhat knowledgeable? Jan 14 13:58:44 --> sinope (1000@bur-jud-175-061.rh.uchicago.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 13:58:49 smps: yeah, that's what it's runnign right now. Jan 14 13:58:57 NeoLaptop, it's required though, isn't it? Jan 14 13:59:23 NeoLaptop, All I gotta do is get make to parse or skip the file (it's only a docs file anyways), but that's what I don't know how to do Jan 14 13:59:25 dUc0n, not that i know of, check the ./configure --help, you might be able to install it without Jan 14 13:59:27 spenser: I'm ok. Been doign it for a long time, but i dont want to spend a lot of time fiddling. And that is exaclty what i ended up doign with my current slack install :D Jan 14 13:59:34 Tubez, why do you want to reinstall then ? Jan 14 13:59:51 I mean, you gotta track down a lot of arcane stuff like drivers for the touchpad and all that. Jan 14 14:00:02 smps: masochism :D Jan 14 14:00:03 :) Jan 14 14:00:04 --> MadMartin (router@BSN-77-179-212.dsl.siol.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 14:00:13 Tubez, then use debian Jan 14 14:00:44 Tubez, i like slack, and run it on my server, but on my laptop I use arch linux. it's fast as hell. the thing is you only do a base install, and have to install any additional software after the initial installation. Jan 14 14:00:49 smps: seriously, i wanna change a few thing in the partition layout and stuff and i dont have anytihng on it i care about enough to keep. So reinstall is the easy way out. Jan 14 14:01:29 Tubez, i suggest you slackware, debian, arch Jan 14 14:01:37 Tubez, the thing is it has a very nice package manager with dependency support and a decent size repository. it has everything I have needed in the repository so far. Jan 14 14:01:41 <-- DarkTide_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 14:01:55 <-- we2by has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 14:01:56 spenser: i had a brief look at arch. Seemed very minimal, which is good. Jan 14 14:02:10 smps: never actually tried deb, perhaps it's a good idea. Jan 14 14:02:10 <-- SuicidJky has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 14:02:14 --> SuicidJky (SuicidJky@S010600095bfe9d1b.mh.shawcable.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 14:02:21 >_ Kurt2 (~kmw@kurt.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 14:02:35 Tubez, it's a big positive to me. In a way arch is everything I wanted slack to be. and i have been using slack for about 4 years. Jan 14 14:02:36 What irritates me most about slack on my lappie is indeed the lack of packages. Not a problem on a server, but on a workstation it's annoying. Jan 14 14:02:47 NeoLaptop, Tried running ./configure --without-docs (guessed at the package name), which ran without errors, but make did the same thing Jan 14 14:02:56 spenser: yeah, I had that feeling too. Jan 14 14:03:18 dUc0n, without-docs means without documentation bro Jan 14 14:03:39 Heh, my first slack install had kernel 1.1.59 on it. Then i've been wayward for a number of years though. Jan 14 14:03:42 <-- [4a-52-4d] has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 14:03:49 That's the file that won't parse though Jan 14 14:04:00 Oh, you mean disable gtkspell in gaim? Jan 14 14:04:13 I installed it from a slack pack though Jan 14 14:04:19 --> we2by (~chatzilla@dc5146d009.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 14:04:41 'make' halts with "unable to parse ../gtkspell-docs.sgml" Jan 14 14:04:53 <-- maddler has quit ("connection reset by beer!") Jan 14 14:05:31 Anyway, thanks for the suggestions. I'll flip a coin and try arch or deb. Jan 14 14:05:31 --> WizeGuy (wize@wizeguy.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 14:05:57 --> logged (1000@rrcs-24-227-56-178.se.biz.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 14:06:08 Btw, how's hardware probing/support in both? Best i've seen so far was rpmdrake, but i'd rather chew glass than put up with the rest of MDK again :D Jan 14 14:06:10 <-- spenser has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 14:06:27 Tubez, i have debian on server and its veeery good Jan 14 14:06:40 --> ondebian (~compunix@201.2.47.243) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 14:06:41 Well damn Jan 14 14:07:02 I just told make and make instal to ignore errors, and gaim works fine now, even with gtkspell seemingly working Jan 14 14:07:15 So I guess that fixes it... don't really need gtkspell anyways Jan 14 14:07:21 Hm. Okie. Lappie of course is an odd scenario since it's bound to a) have nonstandard crap and b) get all manner of odd USB devices shoved into it ;) Jan 14 14:07:58 Tubez, case in point: My laptop has its DVD drive as master on the primary IDE channel (HDA) Jan 14 14:07:59 Is there a way to set ulimit in slackware without the commandline? Say I want all users to have 8 processes only? Jan 14 14:08:19 dUc0n: lol, really? Wouldnt work for mine where the DVSD drive is ejectable :D Jan 14 14:08:46 --- sami____ is now known as sami_ Jan 14 14:08:51 Tubez, I shit thee not, it's a Dell Inspiron 5150, factory refurbed Jan 14 14:09:13 Huh? Arent those ejectable too? Jan 14 14:09:19 Came with a Windows XP Pro+SP1 OEM disc I'll likely be using as a coaster soon Jan 14 14:09:22 Nope, it's permanent Jan 14 14:09:48 <-- duardo has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 14:09:49 --> adam_ (~aestus@69-173-164-6.sbtnvt.adelphia.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 14:09:50 at least I haven't seen any way to eject it... not without taking screws out anyways Jan 14 14:09:57 <-- wobbles (~huntsman@171.cust2.sa.dsl.ozemail.com.au) has left ##slackware ("Off to find a life....") 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But didn't help much. Jan 14 14:33:52 I just need a good idea on how to have slack load the module and wait until the devices show up before continuing to mount stuff. It's the whole slackrc, modules, udev, mount chicken-and-egg-story here. Jan 14 14:34:01 <-- Epidemic1l has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 14:35:11 --> nazgul_ (~anarky@82.53.22.61) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 14:37:03 oi oi Jan 14 14:37:27 Jan 14 14:37:32 g'night :D Jan 14 14:37:44 night NeoLaptop Jan 14 14:38:31 Fri Jan 14 13:37:46 GMT 2005 Jan 14 14:39:08 --> havran (~havran@158.195.102.161) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 14:39:27 --> Pa^2 (~Papa@63.238.104.170) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 14:40:14 wot wot Jan 14 14:41:06 --> guccio (~guccio@218.83.83.158) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 14:43:40 <-- Gartt_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 14:44:46 :) Jan 14 14:44:53 <-- bukenn has quit ("pikkatjo") Jan 14 14:45:35 wot wot? Jan 14 14:45:37 <-- qmasterrr has quit ("leaving") Jan 14 14:46:03 --> volkerdi (3321@slackware.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 14:46:03 wot? wot! Jan 14 14:46:12 how do tewmten Jan 14 14:46:15 greetings Jan 14 14:46:27 hello pat Jan 14 14:46:31 is that really you ? Jan 14 14:46:35 :) Jan 14 14:46:37 yes Jan 14 14:46:55 phrag: well I'm home and sick Jan 14 14:46:56 wow, so please to meet you, we have spoken via email a few times =) Jan 14 14:47:01 --> chronos (~chronos@ppp-67-39-183-89.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 14:47:09 volkerdi: how are you ? Jan 14 14:47:18 have you come to give us #slackware back? :D Jan 14 14:47:20 well, hard to say on that one :) Jan 14 14:47:22 --> MindChild (RntedMule@57.muca.pitt.washdctt.dsl.att.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 14:47:23 <-- Nobbie has quit (".") Jan 14 14:47:28 <-- gerardo has quit () Jan 14 14:47:34 volkerdi: feeling more yourself though ? Jan 14 14:47:47 I feel myself. ;-) Jan 14 14:47:56 volkerdi: it is truely an honour to be blessed with your presence patrick =) Jan 14 14:48:01 --> MAN_Hater (~Too_Rude@adsl-69-151-249-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 14:48:10 ah, hm.. well.. seems quite easy to make opium Jan 14 14:48:12 * Mellen bows down. Jan 14 14:48:12 ahhh, schtopit Jan 14 14:48:16 hehe Jan 14 14:48:50 <-- MindChild has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 14:48:50 I've been meaning to write to the admin to say I'm ok with #slackware opening up again as a general channel, but I've been a bit out of it Jan 14 14:48:51 :o Jan 14 14:49:31 volkerdi: oh, that is good... we created this to give you the option of taking #slackware for yourself... trivial matter though Jan 14 14:49:36 si. 3321@bob.slackware.com is, in fact, me. Jan 14 14:49:43 as long as we have a nice support channel Jan 14 14:49:44 Well well, what an honour ;) Jan 14 14:49:54 hmmm Jan 14 14:50:04 I think I just broke udev Jan 14 14:50:29 I have a friend named Aronson that I talked to on the phone yesterday, but otherwise... I get a lot of mail. :-) Jan 14 14:50:47 volkerdi: oh what a coincidence, I have bob.slackware.se :) Jan 14 14:50:49 bah.. udev isn't broken.. damn module died.. wtf Jan 14 14:51:08 volkerdi: do you frequent freenode often, specifically this channel ? Jan 14 14:51:08 bob is the hostname of the website. Jan 14 14:51:28 I have never visited a public #slackware channel anywhere before. Jan 14 14:51:40 =) Jan 14 14:51:56 we are usually bigger, but the recent move to ##slackware dropped numbers a little Jan 14 14:51:57 Heh, probably wise. Jan 14 14:51:58 This is my #slackware de-virginization. Jan 14 14:52:07 lol Jan 14 14:52:08 heh, ironic =P Jan 14 14:52:13 :) Jan 14 14:52:17 volkerdi: i hope you do not mind me asking.... Jan 14 14:52:19 volkerdi: prolly not the same Jan 14 14:52:33 <-- ptlo has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 14:52:33 --> vitor (~vitor@200.150.64.60) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 14:52:35 volkerdi: but what are your feelings towards 2.6.... stable enough for 10.1 ? Jan 14 14:52:45 i am current running slackware-current with 2.4.28 Jan 14 14:52:54 but am considering 2.6.10 Jan 14 14:52:55 Well, it's stable enough, but will probably wait for 11. Jan 14 14:53:13 eh.. 2.6 still has it's quirks Jan 14 14:53:21 There will be issues with the installer. The way the kernels are designed now, 2.6 ones wouldn't fit on floppies. Jan 14 14:53:23 thought as much... i admire your caution Jan 14 14:53:30 ah, i see Jan 14 14:53:38 I'm running slack-current on 2.6.10 .. My only issues are nvidia drivers and I had to update udev manually. Jan 14 14:53:44 Heh, that was bound to happen someday. Jan 14 14:53:45 Plus, I'd probably want NPTL glibc, which doesn't allow a vanilla 2.4.x kernel to work anymore. Jan 14 14:54:02 I've been meaning to get a newer udev in place. Jan 14 14:54:19 <-- havran_ has quit (No route to host) Jan 14 14:54:20 But my energy level is still really low. Jan 14 14:54:22 lmao... wife just said " your damn linux box is opening and closing the cdrom.. what the hell did you do?" Jan 14 14:54:24 --- nixor gives voice to volkerdi Jan 14 14:54:27 =) Jan 14 14:54:29 It's okay. the slackbuild script did it's thing. :) Jan 14 14:54:34 good :) Jan 14 14:54:39 phrag: I love eject and eject -t Jan 14 14:54:48 Loads of fun when the wife is at home. Jan 14 14:54:49 Dominian: 'tis nice Jan 14 14:54:53 * Dominian smiles Jan 14 14:55:18 volkerdi: That name seems famaliar some how... Jan 14 14:55:30 hehe Jan 14 14:55:31 volkerdi: do you dislike irc then ? Jan 14 14:55:43 skubee: do I need to scroll back to find out why...? Jan 14 14:55:48 --> DexterF (~dexter@pD9E13964.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 14:55:51 well, not really. But I don't usually have a ton of spare time. Jan 14 14:56:29 I mean, I go all the way back to bitnet chat. I'm an old-timer. Jan 14 14:56:36 wow Jan 14 14:56:36 volkerdi: you need to take it easy, do not worry about -current updates, as long as you keep yourself right Jan 14 14:56:38 hehe Jan 14 14:56:48 hmm ARPANET Jan 14 14:56:48 volkerdi: the real one? Jan 14 14:57:00 Btw Patrick, where's your family from? Your last name sounds vaguely "from around here". Jan 14 14:57:16 The name is of German origin. Jan 14 14:57:18 ack ok now I know where tha tname sounds famaliar Jan 14 14:57:33 Roughly translates as "people of the thing (or land)" Jan 14 14:57:42 the thing is a good movie Jan 14 14:57:49 :) Jan 14 14:57:54 Figures. Here in holland it would be roughly exactly the same :D Jan 14 14:58:18 There's a legend that a Volkerding is like a gnome that appears to you when you drink too much and then proceeds to get you in trouble :) Jan 14 14:58:23 volkerdi: is there coming any online update system like portage, ports or apt? Jan 14 14:58:39 I think i've seen him. Jan 14 14:58:42 volkerdi: ahhh yes! I've seen one of those... Jan 14 14:58:47 When I was in the Army Jan 14 14:58:50 volkerdi: as mystical as a grue ? =P Jan 14 14:58:54 Everytime I went to the NCO club hehe Jan 14 14:58:55 sami_: not from me. I'm leaving such things to third parties as Slackware isn't really designed to work like that Jan 14 14:59:09 <-- rlm has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 14:59:20 sami_: Umm.. I find slackpacks easier to manage than rpms or an apt like system.. Jan 14 14:59:20 that thing that gets you into trouble when drinking too much is usually the waiter, but i guess "thing" is a little harsh there... Jan 14 14:59:28 volkerdi: ok just wanted to know :) since it seems like its pretty popular with that kind of thing now Jan 14 14:59:35 sami_: For one, there are times that rpm based distros will install dependencies that will break other things Jan 14 14:59:57 DexterF: in swedene we call them "the police" Jan 14 14:59:58 :) Jan 14 15:00:06 hehe Jan 14 15:00:22 volkerdi: i wrote a little -current monitor and rsync script, without upgrade features... http://phra.gs/code/slackmon Jan 14 15:00:49 Dominian: swaret.. i like swaret. Jan 14 15:00:52 bah Jan 14 15:00:55 swaret.. Jan 14 15:00:58 Just update manually Jan 14 15:01:02 swaret does some funky things Jan 14 15:01:03 volkerdi: btw... we are considering starting slackcon.. a slackware convention Jan 14 15:01:09 Or tell me what slackpacks you want built and I'll build them Jan 14 15:01:12 Swaret can get you into no end of trouble. Jan 14 15:01:12 with dependencies Jan 14 15:01:15 --> Gartt_ (~brian@ip68-14-81-92.ri.ri.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:01:23 swaret is like russian roulette Jan 14 15:01:30 volkerdi: we do not support 3rd party package management in here, as we've seen them do so much damage Jan 14 15:01:31 phrag: btw, Evolution, I've got updated packs Jan 14 15:01:37 Dominian: nice, url ? Jan 14 15:01:41 <-- stevo has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 15:01:43 sometimes you get lucky and it'll work, other times you might not be so lucky Jan 14 15:01:45 dank u Jan 14 15:01:50 phrag: I need to upload them to your server when my ISP fixes my damn connection Jan 14 15:02:04 phrag: My upload stream is hosed Jan 14 15:02:16 acts like it's saturated... they say "oh it must be your router" Jan 14 15:02:20 uhh no.. you dolt.. it isn't Jan 14 15:02:22 mine too... 256k always struggles Jan 14 15:03:07 not to mention I'm dealing with two server crashes this morning Jan 14 15:03:36 *sigh* Jan 14 15:03:40 I want it to be end of month Jan 14 15:03:46 so I get my money Jan 14 15:03:50 <-- Kurt2 has quit ("By rejecting Judeo-Christian ethics entirely, I have managed to make several people extremely angry.") Jan 14 15:03:57 Dominian, certainly not Slack crashes? Surely not. :) Jan 14 15:04:07 Pa^2: no Jan 14 15:04:08 --> cubicool (~cubicool@router.emperor-sw2.exsbs.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:04:10 heheh, never ;-) Jan 14 15:04:25 Pa^2: I'm not lucky enough to work in a company that will allow me to run slack Jan 14 15:04:26 Check that out. :) Heyas, Pat. Jan 14 15:04:27 :) Jan 14 15:04:32 although.. that's going to change. Jan 14 15:04:34 06:03:46 up 408 days, 20:44, 3 users, load average: 0.39, 0.36, 0.34 Jan 14 15:04:37 hnmmmm Jan 14 15:04:48 dominian: me neither.. somehow they think redhat works "better" Jan 14 15:04:48 Any idea how Pat is going these days? Jan 14 15:04:50 * Dominian just found out yesterday he may be pulled into a linux project. Jan 14 15:04:56 hehehe Jan 14 15:04:56 * inflex hasn't seen much on the change log Jan 14 15:04:58 inflex: ask him :) Jan 14 15:05:00 --> Epidemic1l (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:05:01 inflex: ummm yeah ask him Jan 14 15:05:09 tewmten: I don't think he needs mor emails Jan 14 15:05:21 inflex: ummm Jan 14 15:05:23 poor guy probably wants a breka. Jan 14 15:05:25 inflex: volkerdi Jan 14 15:05:29 volkerdi: i hate to ask, but how far are we from 10.1... i leeched store.slackware.com the otherday. bought everything including subscription and was waiting for 10.1 before installation on a new box of mine Jan 14 15:05:30 hint hint Jan 14 15:05:31 inflex: ahhh he's in the channel right now. you're standing right next to him so to speak :) Jan 14 15:05:34 volkerdi: You gonna' be at the LinuxWorld Expo in Feb? Jan 14 15:05:38 inflex: haha Jan 14 15:05:38 oh, .... oops. Jan 14 15:05:55 man.. Jan 14 15:05:59 Feb in NY? I don't think I'm fit for that kind of travel yet. Jan 14 15:06:02 phrag: need to charge for admission intothe channel Jan 14 15:06:04 --> tomr (ehlo@81.19.251.139) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:06:05 * cubicool nods Jan 14 15:06:06 volkerdi: you're insane coming in here - we're all social deprived wierdo - we just happen to like Slackware ;-) Jan 14 15:06:16 i'm not deprived Jan 14 15:06:18 * phrag votes for Pat to put his feat up and relax with a beer Jan 14 15:06:20 inflex: And I'm... ? Jan 14 15:06:27 volkerdi: you're a sick young man Jan 14 15:06:32 volkerdi: you need a cute nurse. Jan 14 15:06:33 phiend: no more beer for me, ever, I guess. Jan 14 15:06:33 volkerdi: Some guys I work with (at EmperorLinux.com) have met you a few times there, was hoping to get a chance this year. :) Jan 14 15:06:35 lol Jan 14 15:06:40 what? Jan 14 15:06:49 no beer?! madness! Jan 14 15:06:52 volkerdi: does it bother you ? Jan 14 15:07:04 Beer, the golden beverage of the Subgenius! Jan 14 15:07:22 ?me Praise BOB fur dat Jan 14 15:07:31 yeah... the infection caused me some problems, so no caffeine, no booze, no sugar. Hey, where's the nearest bridge? ;-) Jan 14 15:07:42 god.. Jan 14 15:07:42 volkerdi: ouch. Jan 14 15:07:48 I would thing caffeine would be worse than beer Jan 14 15:07:48 but frop is okay? ;) Jan 14 15:07:50 wow no sugar Jan 14 15:07:51 is there any life beyond caffiene, booze and sugar? Jan 14 15:07:54 no, no frop. Jan 14 15:07:57 having to do without my Mt. Dew would surely kill me Jan 14 15:07:57 volkerdi, You play bridge? Jan 14 15:07:57 :O Jan 14 15:07:59 volkerdi: forever ? Jan 14 15:08:05 skubee: that eliminates 99.9% of the american diet Jan 14 15:08:05 whist :-) Jan 14 15:08:12 <-- tomr (ehlo@81.19.251.139) has left ##slackware Jan 14 15:08:14 phrag: yup Jan 14 15:08:16 inflex: my thoughts exactly Jan 14 15:08:19 --> tomr (ehlo@81.19.251.139) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:08:20 =/ Jan 14 15:08:25 Pa^2: talking about jumping off of one Jan 14 15:08:28 no coffee, that would kill me Jan 14 15:08:29 * Dominian smiles Jan 14 15:08:30 * inflex has tried various american foods... too sweet for me. Jan 14 15:08:42 sweet? where the hell you been eating? Jan 14 15:08:43 * MAN_Hater hands volkerdi a "diet rite Cola" and say (lookie no nothing just splenda Jan 14 15:08:50 (I've got a sister-in-law who's American - living here in Australia - poor thing, she suffers from sugar withdrawl) Jan 14 15:08:54 <-- tomr (ehlo@81.19.251.139) has left ##slackware Jan 14 15:08:58 please excuse me 5 minutes... coffee time Jan 14 15:08:59 --> tomr (ehlo@81.19.251.139) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:09:21 oh you're just rubbing it in, aren't ya.. you make me sick phrag! ;)) Jan 14 15:09:24 --> rlm (~rlm@n216.isratek.edunet.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:09:24 coffee... awwww. And I always made vacuum extracted java every morning. I miss it. Jan 14 15:09:32 volkerdi: I bet :-\ Jan 14 15:09:41 volkerdi: what about decaf? Jan 14 15:09:52 --> tklauser (~noone@130.60.169.171) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:09:53 why bother Jan 14 15:09:54 * inflex has Lavazza moka decaf if I'm desperate Jan 14 15:09:54 Hi Jan 14 15:10:01 volkerdi: *shrug* keep the habit at least. Jan 14 15:10:07 put some guarana in the decaf then? :) Jan 14 15:10:18 that too, would be verboten. Jan 14 15:10:27 hm Jan 14 15:10:35 volkerdi: you're right - definately not worth living - someone find pat a bridge. Jan 14 15:10:56 Anyway, I added some new stuff at the link that was in the changelog to my "blog" since so many people were asking and mailing about how I'm doing. Jan 14 15:11:22 volkerdi: I had forwarded your symptoms to some docs I knew.. I have no idea if they ever got bakc to you though lol Jan 14 15:11:50 I did get a ton of mail about that. I think about 1500 doctors wrote to me. Jan 14 15:11:58 :O Jan 14 15:12:07 I bet Jan 14 15:12:19 well... see... things like that happen after you create a masterpiece :) Jan 14 15:12:20 a few of the ones I know are world known... so.. was worth a shot Jan 14 15:13:33 --> Polleke (polleke@polleke.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:13:39 volkerdi: umm, if you don't mind talking about in a public chat, has there been a definetly diagnose about your issue? Jan 14 15:13:46 nope Jan 14 15:14:19 the attempt to search for one delayed treatment for a long time, and all the while whatever it was attacked my heart... Jan 14 15:15:12 --> ^slacker^ (~cadavis@wsip-68-15-254-133.dl.dl.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:15:15 volkerdi: Windows Virus Jan 14 15:15:19 damn. been there myself, hardest thing is acting up to the medics and not let them believe your a nut case... Jan 14 15:15:20 indeed. Jan 14 15:16:15 yeah, I just kept getting worse until finally a doc took the shotgun approach with every antibiotic under the sun, and there was improvement within a couple of days, but the damage was already done. Jan 14 15:16:16 Anyone using the ipw2* series of wireless NIC? Jan 14 15:16:36 <-- Epidemical has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 15:16:51 cubicool: Who makes that? Jan 14 15:16:54 Intel Jan 14 15:16:58 eh.. no Jan 14 15:17:01 It's a pretty popular wireless chipset. :) Jan 14 15:17:06 Well, not "popular." Jan 14 15:17:08 At any rate... Jan 14 15:17:17 I've been hacking on its suspend/resume code. Jan 14 15:17:20 And it just won Jan 14 15:17:23 hehe Jan 14 15:17:25 Er, won't. Jan 14 15:17:32 Go ahead, make my.. "Bob" !! Jan 14 15:17:33 --> FriedBob (NoIdent@friedbob.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:17:36 --> LSD` (~ianweb@dsl-202-173-174-247.wa.westnet.com.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:17:37 Well I use a broadcom chipset with ndiswrapper and the Windows XP driver... no hacking involved :P Jan 14 15:17:52 Dominian: can you suspend/resume? Jan 14 15:17:59 cubicool: yeah Jan 14 15:18:02 <-- Gartt has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 15:18:03 ugh. Jan 14 15:18:11 volkerdi: well, if anything else fails we'll clone you ;) Jan 14 15:18:16 Dominian: you suck. :) Jan 14 15:18:20 I had to do some additions to rc.local to get the routes and ip address set though Jan 14 15:18:23 cubicool: hehe Jan 14 15:18:40 my problem is that the kernel isn't repowering the MiniPCI bus. Jan 14 15:18:47 <-- chronos has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 15:18:49 I already am the clone. Jan 14 15:19:12 cubicool: umm using apm or acpi? Jan 14 15:19:20 So I'm almost convinced its something w/ 2.6.10 and not the driver itself. Jan 14 15:19:20 duh acpi Jan 14 15:19:26 In 1998 the original left on the saucers, leaving behind this clone Jan 14 15:19:31 cubicool: Well, get 2.6.9 installed and try Jan 14 15:19:34 Dominian: acpi. :) All the systems here at work are ACPI Jan 14 15:19:46 yeah you can't suspend/resume with apm Jan 14 15:19:47 * meta-ridley puts on his tinfoil hat Jan 14 15:19:52 heheh I loves subgeni quotes Jan 14 15:20:05 * MAN_Hater hidez my helldollars Jan 14 15:20:06 volkerdi: well we can always make more clones, you know, too much is always better than not enough ;) Jan 14 15:20:07 * Pa^2 whistles "Send In The Clones..." Jan 14 15:20:10 meta-ridley: You at work? Jan 14 15:20:20 cubicool: no luckily.. got the day off Jan 14 15:20:20 volkerdi: you might not say the same tommorow :) Jan 14 15:20:36 tewmten: Seen muliplicity, or the Simpsons episode where Homer cloned himself? Jan 14 15:20:44 i might not Jan 14 15:20:49 meta-ridley: If I don't get this damn thing suspending today I'm screwed. my boss will make me stay the weekend... :) (j/k) Jan 14 15:20:53 tryin to figure out why my screen doesn't blank in x anymore Jan 14 15:21:04 FriedBob: not that I can remember Jan 14 15:21:04 meta-ridley: what video card? Jan 14 15:21:06 FriedBob: was that a "Treehouse" episode? Jan 14 15:21:12 if there's activity going on in a terminal would that stop it? Jan 14 15:21:17 <-- LSD`_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 15:21:18 DexterF: Dun remember. Jan 14 15:21:29 meta-ridley: try "xset dpms force off" Jan 14 15:22:01 I'm a bit annoyed with my box right now. 2.6.7 boots just fine with selinux enabled, but 2.6.10-selinux1 boots fine but Selinux won't enable for some reason. :/ Jan 14 15:22:09 oh and i also install ati's radeon drivers.. :P Jan 14 15:22:13 k, ill try that Jan 14 15:22:18 * MAN_Hater finds a bridge in gruene , texas for sale which is over the san marcos river (bids are low so far Jan 14 15:22:22 meta-ridley: with radeon you'll need to use radeontool Jan 14 15:22:34 * inflex tries to decide... go to bed now, wake up in 6 hours and have a 2 hour drive to go flying... or stay up watching Pat talk Jan 14 15:22:42 lol Jan 14 15:22:49 radeontool light off Jan 14 15:22:55 MAN_Hater: I've also got some ocean view property in AZ for sale. Jan 14 15:22:56 MAN_Hater, I bid 1 No Trump. Jan 14 15:23:04 alixu: netconfig Jan 14 15:23:06 ah, I won't hang out for too much longer. I have to upload Puzzling Evidence to serpentx's site. Jan 14 15:23:16 * MAN_Hater upbid with helldollars Jan 14 15:23:28 * cubicool hugs volkerdi. Jan 14 15:23:29 FriedBob - no I am lookin fur a bridge Jan 14 15:23:36 * inflex needs to redo a SW10 box that decided it no longer likes OpenOffice Jan 14 15:23:39 might do that Jan 14 15:24:02 volkerdi: may i ask what you do for a living ? Jan 14 15:24:05 Shame you won't make it to LinuxWorld Expo. Best wishes, though, with everything going on. :) Jan 14 15:24:11 phrag: 3 guesses. Jan 14 15:24:21 volkerdi, well keep up the good work with slackware man, as long as your health permits it. thanks for creating a distro that doesn't suck :) Jan 14 15:24:22 evangelist ? Jan 14 15:24:22 He does slack! Jan 14 15:24:24 fights the conspiracy!! Jan 14 15:24:25 phrag: and the first two don't count lol Jan 14 15:24:36 Slacker! Jan 14 15:24:41 <-- Gartt_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 15:24:41 excellent job =) Jan 14 15:25:07 how many work fulltime on slackware?, just you? Jan 14 15:25:10 phrag: it has its moments, but the hours are sometimes very very long. Jan 14 15:25:28 i know you work very hard Jan 14 15:25:32 There's me, and there's someone running the store site. Jan 14 15:25:38 (some would say too hard) Jan 14 15:25:44 volkerdi: if we were to start a slackware convention, would you considering attending... we would even go to the length of paying/contributing towards your travelling expenses Jan 14 15:25:58 phrag: where? Jan 14 15:26:01 we almost started last year, but left it too late Jan 14 15:26:02 <-- seberino has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 15:26:11 volkerdi, Amsterdam iirc Jan 14 15:26:11 amsterdam, were the frop is cheap! Jan 14 15:26:15 well, we were thinking as central a location as possible, perhaps europe Jan 14 15:26:27 we were going to hold last years in Amsterdam Jan 14 15:26:33 whoa, i'd so be there. i bet my company would pay for it for meh. :) Jan 14 15:26:38 sheeesh, Amsterdamn is like 18,000km from me :-( Jan 14 15:26:38 was many interested in attending Jan 14 15:26:42 which would be great, as I'm living 200 miles from it Jan 14 15:26:45 volkerdi: I wrote you a mail because of an error in the vim.Slackbuild and you didn't answer. Is that a good or a bad sign? Jan 14 15:26:46 s/was/were Jan 14 15:26:51 volkerdi: When I first started using Linux, Slackware was the only distro I could find that would install on the hardware I had at the time. Thanks. Jan 14 15:26:56 well, the last time I went to Amsterdam I got a mega-hassle returning at Customs, and have not gone overseas since 2000. Jan 14 15:27:18 jjdm that no sign Jan 14 15:27:36 They thought I looked like a dirty hippie smuggler. Of course I wasn't, and had nothing, but they were through in their search Jan 14 15:27:45 volkerdi: a location of your choice perhaps ? Jan 14 15:27:53 also the sane.Slackbuild script looks a bit odd Jan 14 15:28:00 although i know many in europe could not make a US convention Jan 14 15:28:04 Sure. I have a big backyard. Jan 14 15:28:09 I'll go Jan 14 15:28:10 as we discussed at the time Jan 14 15:28:15 chortle =) Jan 14 15:28:18 Be careful what you wish for... Jan 14 15:28:20 but then I have to sell most of my stuff Jan 14 15:28:27 phrag: And many in the US wouldn't be able to make it to Europe. Jan 14 15:28:35 exactly =/ Jan 14 15:28:47 SlackCon East and West? Jan 14 15:28:50 how 'bout in the middle of the atlantic ocean then? Jan 14 15:28:51 FriedBob, you forget phrag is living in Europe ;) Jan 14 15:28:54 perhaps a european and us one then Jan 14 15:29:00 hey Pa^2 how did you miss the saucer ? Jan 14 15:29:04 England, UK Jan 14 15:29:30 --> Marverick (~slack4eve@200-101-037-099.cbabm7006.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:29:51 can ps wrap instead of truncate? Jan 14 15:29:56 have it in canada! Jan 14 15:30:02 ps ww Jan 14 15:30:04 * meta-ridley runs away Jan 14 15:30:12 --- dUc0n is now known as Samus-Aran Jan 14 15:30:17 * Samus-Aran chases meta-ridley Jan 14 15:30:23 >:-D Jan 14 15:30:25 * tewmten trips meta-ridly Jan 14 15:30:28 hihi Jan 14 15:30:35 --> Gartt (~brian@ip68-14-81-92.ri.ri.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:30:36 hehe Jan 14 15:30:40 EAT CHARGE BEAM Jan 14 15:30:43 man I'm hungry.. Jan 14 15:30:45 * Samus-Aran lays waste to ridley Jan 14 15:30:50 volkerdi: how is -current fairing... far from 10.1 ? (betting it is the 100th time you have been asked today) Jan 14 15:30:52 give me slack, or give me food, or kill me! Jan 14 15:30:57 * MAN_Hater thought canada was europe since they speak french there Jan 14 15:31:15 --> chibo (~chibo@ip24-251-64-19.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:31:20 --> dadexter (~dadexter@modemcable032.0-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:31:21 --- Samus-Aran is now known as dUc0N Jan 14 15:31:25 Okay, I'm done now Jan 14 15:31:27 --> dadexter_ (~dadexter@modemcable032.0-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:31:32 <-- dadexter has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 15:31:35 <-- dadexter_ has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 15:31:36 phrag: you'll just have to wait until it's ready, like everyone else does! :) Jan 14 15:31:45 making the most of this unique, rare and honoured visit Jan 14 15:31:46 I think it's about close enough to call it 10.1 once I fix udev and make a 2.6.10 kernel (& etc) for /testing Jan 14 15:31:46 --> dadexter (~dadexter@modemcable032.0-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:32:13 But I do think GNOME may have to go to /extra without an update (it pollutes KDE's menu system) Jan 14 15:32:21 volkerdi: spare the effort. 2.6.10 doesn't cut it. ran right into dvd writing issues Jan 14 15:32:22 volkerdi: that is excellent news... i will wait till then to go from 2.4.28 to 2.6.10 =) Jan 14 15:32:25 *again* Jan 14 15:32:37 volkerdi: and thankyou for answering =) Jan 14 15:32:39 volkerdi: about that 2.6 and floopy issue, couldn't it just be solved by booting a 2.4 and then installing a 2.6 with the installera? Jan 14 15:32:41 ahahah bye bye gnome Jan 14 15:32:46 you piece of garbage Jan 14 15:32:46 volkerdi: not many of us bothered i don't think Jan 14 15:32:48 volkerdi: What do you think about groups like Slacksec making unofficial security updates to Slackware while you have been sick? Jan 14 15:33:05 it's sickening? :) Jan 14 15:33:05 volkerdi: what window manager do you use out of interest, blackbox ? Jan 14 15:33:06 meta-ridley, you used gnome? I feel your pain... KDE is the shiznit Jan 14 15:33:13 metaridley didn't you mean huge piece of Jan 14 15:33:24 duc0n: only once.. and it left scars Jan 14 15:33:27 well, I'd already designated Bruno, Piter, and friends to be in charge of that. Slacksec never even bothered to email me... Jan 14 15:33:30 lol Jan 14 15:33:43 but they can do what they like Jan 14 15:33:52 as long as they use slackware! Jan 14 15:34:11 I'm on the console :-) Jan 14 15:34:13 it's like the motto of our LUG "you can use whatever distro you want.. as long as it's slackware!" Jan 14 15:34:19 In X, I use KDE. Jan 14 15:34:29 volkerdi: arg, i should of known that... Jan 14 15:34:33 * phrag kicks himself Jan 14 15:34:38 HAH! Take that you gnome losers! Jan 14 15:34:41 volkerdi, that would be because KDE r0x y0ur s0x ;-P Jan 14 15:34:41 * Tubez gloats. Jan 14 15:34:43 /kick phrag yourself! Jan 14 15:34:50 volkerdi: and linuxpackages... whom have a bit of a bad reputation round here... what are your thoughts on their packages ? Jan 14 15:34:56 --> taortan (~taortan@83.145.62.70) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:35:22 what about slackcare.com? do they know what they're doing? Jan 14 15:35:23 phrag: don't get me started on lp... Jan 14 15:35:25 I really don't test a lot of third party packages, so I can't comment on their QA. I like the guys who run the site though. Jan 14 15:35:30 phrag, I haven't had any trouble with them, per se, but they don't seem to carry quite everything... gotta go with source about half the time Jan 14 15:35:49 dUc0N: I build all my own packs anyway hehe Jan 14 15:35:54 i'd rather build stuff myselfanyways Jan 14 15:35:55 lol Jan 14 15:36:00 unless its like... kde :) Jan 14 15:36:05 dUc0N: IMO, should go with source anyways, with very few exception. Jan 14 15:36:09 fair do's =) Jan 14 15:36:22 KDe isn't that hard to build fellas Jan 14 15:36:29 Have to run off .. thanks for dropping by volkerdi! Jan 14 15:36:30 easier than Gnome.. and I've built both Jan 14 15:36:38 maybe not.. the thought of compiling it has always scared me though Jan 14 15:36:41 nah Jan 14 15:36:44 Not that bad. Jan 14 15:36:45 Sandman managed, so anyone can do that... Jan 14 15:36:47 Just takes time Jan 14 15:36:49 slackcare is perhaps a little closer to stepping on my trademark and acting all official than I'd like, but whatever. I don't really care too much. Jan 14 15:36:49 Dominian, not hard no... just time comsuming Jan 14 15:36:53 Dominian: Yeah, but when a fresh kernel install takes 13+ hours... Jan 14 15:36:54 dadexter: right Jan 14 15:36:55 volkerdi: i shan't bombard you with anymore questions... must... restrain... myself =P Jan 14 15:36:57 but i don't use it anymore so it doesn't matter :) Jan 14 15:37:01 I dunno... for me, if it works, it works... I'm running Gnome, as well as Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird all from slackpacks Jan 14 15:37:02 FriedBob: kernel takes you 13+ hours??? Jan 14 15:37:08 is it just me, but with every new release of gnome it just gets slower and slower.. anyone else experience this? Jan 14 15:37:12 FriedBob: are you on crack when you do it and see Ninjas trying to kill you? Jan 14 15:37:15 friedbob: you using gentoo again? Jan 14 15:37:34 volkerdi: interesting... xgates, the owner frequentes this channel Jan 14 15:37:55 Dominian: After a fresh untarring of the source, yeah, it's an overnight job. Keep in mind, I'm on a dual P90 when in Slack. Jan 14 15:38:01 <_erik> he made a disney copyright violation over the holidays too Jan 14 15:38:07 who? Jan 14 15:38:11 hehe yes ...how can one charge for someonelse's distro Jan 14 15:38:14 heh, how did he manage that ? Jan 14 15:38:24 FriedBob, P90? and I felt retarded with my duron 700 Jan 14 15:38:29 --> avoca (~avoca@159-134-144-76.as1.mvw.galway.eircom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:38:42 dual P90? awesome man :D Jan 14 15:38:45 dadexter: Hey, I /like/ a DUAL P90 and my 486 dx/4 100. Jan 14 15:38:52 s/a/my/ Jan 14 15:38:59 A long time ago at Walnut Creek CDROM, a new employee put a 320x240 gif of Mickey Mouse on a clipart CD. Jan 14 15:39:00 <_erik> and is in here every other day, asking very simple questions. it worries me that people pay for his packages. Jan 14 15:39:32 FriedBob: that's insane Jan 14 15:39:53 * MAN_Hater hands _erik the linspire url Jan 14 15:40:00 nuts. for a second i thought i was on another network Jan 14 15:40:01 _erik: who's that erik? Jan 14 15:40:03 volkerdi: Slacksec and GUS cooperated and exchanged a few packages. Does it sound a good idea if groups that would like to help cooperated more with you and/or GUS? Jan 14 15:40:05 The Disney people showed up with cordless drills and drilled holes through every one of them (or so the legend I heard goes) Jan 14 15:40:05 ananke: lmao Jan 14 15:40:12 ananke: Was wondering when youd pop in Jan 14 15:40:16 ananke: morning.. btw Jan 14 15:40:20 morning Jan 14 15:40:34 hello ananke, how are you ? Jan 14 15:40:35 Dominian: I have a 386sx/16 laying around somewhere, but I haven't tried installing a REAL OS on it, as it only has 2mb RAM. Jan 14 15:40:35 afternoon here, getting dark soon I suppose.. Jan 14 15:40:40 <_erik> MAN_Hater what do i want with linspire? Jan 14 15:40:40 For now, people should work with GUS (IMHO) Jan 14 15:40:47 i got me a state holiday today :) Jan 14 15:40:50 ananke: we have a welcome visitor =) Jan 14 15:40:56 phrag : i noticed Jan 14 15:40:57 Anyone wanna take my speech class for me? =-P Jan 14 15:41:10 what's GUS? Gay Users from Singapore? Jan 14 15:41:13 --> sami__ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:41:15 j/K Jan 14 15:41:17 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to phrag Jan 14 15:41:18 Sadly, I have to get to work now. They scheduled me for 0900 instead of 1100 like normal. Jan 14 15:41:19 --- phrag sets mode +q ##slackware tewmten!*@* Jan 14 15:41:21 --- phrag removes channel operator status from phrag Jan 14 15:41:33 volkerdi: OK, thanks for you answers. Jan 14 15:41:35 volkerdi : side note, i think there may be problems with mdadm in -current Jan 14 15:41:38 tewmten: that was stupid Jan 14 15:41:55 Any dual-monitor users here who will have a quick talk with me? Jan 14 15:42:12 I'll see y'all later. Jan 14 15:42:18 bye FriedBob Jan 14 15:42:23 * dUc0N doesn't have support set up for his yet, even though second monitor is actually a TV Jan 14 15:42:24 yeah, mdadm 1.8.1 is horked. Turns out that 1.8.1 is a completely new, unstable branch compared to 1.8.0. Go figure. Jan 14 15:42:45 --> tewm (~bonker@internetmirkk.ulug.org) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:42:48 phrag that's just silly Jan 14 15:42:52 gay = happy Jan 14 15:42:55 if you didn't know.. Jan 14 15:42:56 <-- tewm has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 15:43:01 oh boy Jan 14 15:43:05 i've been meaning to e-mail you about it, and i kept forgetting. that's just odd the way they'd name the unstable tree Jan 14 15:43:05 I see a ban coming for evasion. Jan 14 15:43:11 volkerdi: Again, thanks for making a great distro that works great on legacy hardware, even when updated. Jan 14 15:43:23 no problem. Glad you like it. Jan 14 15:43:25 here here Jan 14 15:43:27 * dadexter needs coffee Jan 14 15:43:31 FriedBob: Yeah.. my P166 running great for about 2.5 months with no reboots hehe Jan 14 15:43:43 Still need to convert it to reiserfs though Jan 14 15:43:44 volkerdi = Patrick? Jan 14 15:43:53 kiwi_uk: 3 guesses... Jan 14 15:43:58 kiwi_uk: and they all are yes Jan 14 15:43:59 hehehehe Jan 14 15:44:02 hehe Jan 14 15:44:06 What's the advantage to reiserfs over like ext2? Jan 14 15:44:12 I was under the impression that he never visted Jan 14 15:44:14 I mean, it's journaling, but what does that do? Jan 14 15:44:17 but seeing as he has... Jan 14 15:44:17 dUc0N: well if your running ext2... you're insane Jan 14 15:44:18 * dUc0N is confused Jan 14 15:44:20 I never have before Jan 14 15:44:26 volkerdi: Thanks, I love Slackware. Jan 14 15:44:27 dUc0N : 1) speed, 2) journaling, 3) lack of fixed size inodes Jan 14 15:44:35 dUc0N: reiserfs seems to be much faster on older systems.. in my opinion. Jan 14 15:44:37 * volkerdi bows humbly Jan 14 15:44:50 volkerdi: glad your feeling more 'up beat' anyway, or at least have that mindset from what it seems Jan 14 15:44:53 dUc0N: My old Insipiron runs 5 times faster since I converted it to reiser Jan 14 15:44:57 volkerdi, you should come around more often :P Jan 14 15:45:00 ahhh Jan 14 15:45:12 phrag : at least i'm glad pat's here when an op is alive :) Jan 14 15:45:17 Well, I'm running ext2... is it terribly hard to switch to reiser? Jan 14 15:45:22 --> broesel (~broesel@p508B3462.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:45:23 I mean, without losing everything? Jan 14 15:45:24 dUc0N: I've also had no issues with corruption or loss of data due to power failure at all Jan 14 15:45:26 ananke: agreed Jan 14 15:45:27 dUc0N : yes. Jan 14 15:45:32 It would be easier to go ext2 -> ext3. Jan 14 15:45:33 Dominian: Heh. I just took my /home OFF reiser and to ext3 Jan 14 15:45:33 >_< Jan 14 15:45:33 dUc0N: you can convert to ext3 from ext2 Jan 14 15:45:36 volkerdi: slackware user base is growing exponentially at the moment Jan 14 15:45:43 How do I get started on that? Jan 14 15:45:58 phrag, that's because I pimp it to all my friends ;-P Jan 14 15:46:00 dUc0N: ext2-> would be simpler to do losslessly. Jan 14 15:46:01 dUc0N: do a google search for ext2 to ext3 conversion.. great tutorials out there Jan 14 15:46:02 dUc0N : tune2fs -j /dev/yourext2device Jan 14 15:46:08 --> jabooty (~ebates@63.78.28.225) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:46:09 ananke: thank you Jan 14 15:46:11 <-- DieRatte has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 15:46:12 alrighty, thanks Jan 14 15:46:13 --> sami___ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:46:17 wonders if volkerdi has meet or spoken to this kent robotti person that seem to make alot of rescue disk and a nice mc menu add on Jan 14 15:46:18 ananke: I knew it was tunesomething Jan 14 15:46:29 ?quit Jan 14 15:46:31 Meh Jan 14 15:46:32 <-- FriedBob has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 14 15:46:34 --> Heest (~rubert@h224n2fls35o258.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:46:39 MAN_Hater: yes, and Kent has made contributions to Slackware before Jan 14 15:46:39 --- jabooty is now known as jabooty-work Jan 14 15:46:50 --- nixor removes ban on *!*@207.172.254.149 Jan 14 15:46:54 kewlnes - ok I just had to ask - thanx Jan 14 15:47:08 <-- broesel (~broesel@p508B3462.dip.t-dialin.net) has left ##slackware Jan 14 15:47:40 volkerdi: hope we have not scared you off coming back here soon / more often =P Jan 14 15:47:49 So tune2fs -j really just turns on journaling for ext2? Jan 14 15:47:54 phrag: I'm sure his butt is sore right now though ;) Jan 14 15:48:01 dUc0N: basically Jan 14 15:48:04 nuts. i wake up and already see 10 tickets in the queue. on a state holiday Jan 14 15:48:05 Trying to get a grasp of what I'm doing before I nuke something =-P Jan 14 15:48:07 well, I really gotta go, but hopefully I'll pop in again someday. And no -- it's been a nice pleasant experience. Thanks to all of you. Jan 14 15:48:22 <-- sami_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 15:48:23 volkerdi : later Jan 14 15:48:24 volkerdi: nice to "meet" you. Jan 14 15:48:25 I've got 2 physical drives, so I could just clear one off and fix it that way if need be Jan 14 15:48:34 any relatable med info I find I will forward Jan 14 15:48:35 <-- volkerdi has quit ("take care") Jan 14 15:48:36 hehe Jan 14 15:48:47 dUc0N: well going from ext2 to reiser is impossible.. unless you do a full clean install Jan 14 15:48:53 ah, fsck it I'll just turn on journaling Jan 14 15:49:01 thanks peoples =-D Jan 14 15:49:07 volkerdi: also, the channel matter you mentioned earlier, i will relay to lilo, a Network Administrator of freenode Jan 14 15:49:19 phrag: you missed him Jan 14 15:49:23 phrag: need to type faster Jan 14 15:49:28 lol doh! Jan 14 15:49:40 <-- MAN_Hater (~Too_Rude@adsl-69-151-249-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has left ##slackware ("How do parent penguins bring home food to feed their babies?") Jan 14 15:49:55 Well that was fast and easy Jan 14 15:50:02 I'll bet I'm glad I did that Jan 14 15:50:06 Yeah, but man I see a lot of brown.. Jan 14 15:50:18 ah, a pleasant surprise, i'm sure you all agree =) Jan 14 15:50:20 dUc0N: yeah.. converting to ext3 is a breeze Jan 14 15:50:33 That was amazing! Jan 14 15:50:35 But as for reiser--a complete do-over would already be a pain, and we already know I'm out of my mind to begin with ;-) Jan 14 15:50:45 Dominian: pat is a legend, why not =P Jan 14 15:50:52 dUc0N: well when 10.1 comes out I'll do a reinstall Jan 14 15:50:54 * Dominian shrugs.. Jan 14 15:50:58 --> MAN_Hater (~Too_Rude@adsl-69-151-249-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:51:02 phrag: you have to understand man.. I don't make a big deal out of many things. Jan 14 15:51:13 he's a guy just like you and I, but he does mak ea great distro Jan 14 15:51:17 True... I might maintain some kinda local changelog to know what I need to back up when I upgrade Jan 14 15:51:19 --> chrej (~ej@roobol.xs4all.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:51:37 <-- sami__ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 15:51:41 And at least it's not like Windows where you really need a monthly complete reinstall just to keep your sanity Jan 14 15:51:42 <-- chrej has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 15:51:55 --> Epidemical (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:51:55 dUc0N: weekly reboots you mean lol Jan 14 15:52:00 He is just a guy... We have been using _his_ distro since... like forever! Jan 14 15:52:01 so what made pat come here? my logs don't go back that far Jan 14 15:52:06 --> bmg (~bmg@wbs-146-142-107.telkomadsl.co.za) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:52:09 ananke: dunno Jan 14 15:52:15 --> broesel (~broesel@p508B3462.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:52:21 Dominian, are you kidding? My record uptime was like 5 days Jan 14 15:52:30 * MAN_Hater /thinks Dominian should stop it cuz your gonna blow "our" vision (grin Jan 14 15:52:39 * Dominian grins Jan 14 15:52:40 Your vision? Jan 14 15:52:42 i've seen him on irc quite a few times, just never in a channel this size Jan 14 15:53:06 ananke, prolly just seeing what the bulk of his intelligent users are up to ;-) Jan 14 15:53:16 Trust me, I was excited to see the creator of Slackware, but my adrenaline pumps more when I base jump..so... Jan 14 15:53:19 he picked the wrong channel for that then :P Jan 14 15:53:33 <-- broesel (~broesel@p508B3462.dip.t-dialin.net) has left ##slackware Jan 14 15:53:44 13:45:18 --> volkerdi (3321@slackware.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 15:54:07 OHHHH I thought he was the owner of Freenode... didn't know he was the chief slackster... that's a bit bigger than the Freenode guy Jan 14 15:54:09 greetings Jan 14 15:54:09 hello pat Jan 14 15:54:14 I've been meaning to write to the admin to say I'm ok with #slackware opening up again as a general channel, but I've been a bit out of it Jan 14 15:54:29 that is why he came i think Jan 14 15:54:37 ahh Jan 14 15:54:37 <_erik> paste the part about his de-virginizing Jan 14 15:54:46 or maybe just wanted to check us out Jan 14 15:54:47 lol Jan 14 15:55:03 you mean he wasn't here for the chicks? Jan 14 15:55:07 _erik, someone crack a fresh one? =-P Jan 14 15:55:07 :P Jan 14 15:55:23 I have never visited a public #slackware channel anywhere before. Jan 14 15:55:23 =) Jan 14 15:55:23 we are usually bigger, but the recent move to ##slackware dropped numbers a little Jan 14 15:55:23 Heh, probably wise. Jan 14 15:55:23 This is my #slackware de-virginization. Jan 14 15:55:36 hehe Jan 14 15:55:42 Now that was classic Jan 14 15:55:46 lol Jan 14 15:55:47 Need to quote that in the /topic ;) Jan 14 15:55:59 hehe Jan 14 15:56:23 Any final outcome on the decision to maybe drop Gnome from Slack? Jan 14 15:56:27 sounds like a good channel name for n00bs Jan 14 15:56:28 --- nixor has changed the topic to: Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support Channel - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | " This is my #slackware de-virginization." Jan 14 15:56:43 --- bmg is now known as bmgz Jan 14 15:57:47 hehe Jan 14 15:58:09 that made my day... any how... coffee time Jan 14 15:58:14 logs? Jan 14 15:58:28 lmao Jan 14 15:58:37 http://slackcon.org/slackware_botlogs/ Jan 14 15:58:46 people actually take my suggestions seriously? Jan 14 15:58:46 wow Jan 14 15:58:49 :D Jan 14 15:59:00 thnx phrag Jan 14 15:59:20 on that note.. smoke time Jan 14 15:59:45 <-- inflex has quit ("wrong button") Jan 14 16:00:11 I wonder what made him show up today grin ? Jan 14 16:00:29 --> ulix (~ul@irc.americatelnet.com.pe) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:00:38 --> rignes (~rignes@000D615723FD.msns.sm.ptd.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:01:14 <-- ^slacker^ has quit ("leaving") Jan 14 16:02:25 <_erik> anyone know the name of that boot loader that will let you boot to a cdrom/iso before the hd, if your bios doesn't allow it? Jan 14 16:02:34 <-- Epidemic1l has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 16:02:42 <-- guccio has quit ("中国足球丫个操") Jan 14 16:03:13 --> ryanc (~ryanc@silverorb.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:03:14 erik: wont grub do that? Jan 14 16:03:22 try grub Jan 14 16:04:07 _erik smart boot floppy (but not a cdrom iso - but a bootable cdrom Jan 14 16:04:15 <_erik> there was something else Jan 14 16:04:28 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to phrag Jan 14 16:04:33 <_erik> machine i need it on has no floppy or cdrom Jan 14 16:04:38 --- phrag sets mode -q ##slackware tewmten!*@* Jan 14 16:04:39 --- phrag removes channel operator status from phrag Jan 14 16:05:20 volkerdi was here cool, i wasn't able to write anything Jan 14 16:05:36 i just couldn't Jan 14 16:05:40 huh Jan 14 16:05:49 why ? Jan 14 16:06:06 _erik what runs on a floppy and a cd can run from a file on a hard drive ? Jan 14 16:06:19 <-- cubicool has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 16:06:20 phrag: don't know, it was strange Jan 14 16:06:36 hope he got a decent impression of the channel Jan 14 16:06:39 <-- dadexter has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 16:06:41 <-- sami___ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 16:07:25 and glad i was active... surprising how many were considering the time Jan 14 16:07:50 phrag: i don't think he got any impression at all... at least when i was locally famous i didn't belive in first impressions, you just can't Jan 14 16:07:51 phrag speaking of decent ...and since you powered up - eh I take it since I am in here - that I am not banned anymore (or who do I need to speak with if anyone ? am I clean now ? Jan 14 16:08:06 <-- Marverick has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 16:08:59 MAN_Hater: no, you are not banned anymore, or i would of removed you earlier =P Jan 14 16:09:11 I thought so Jan 14 16:09:21 <_erik> ya with this one boot loader you can. i just can't remember the name. anyway it's not grub Jan 14 16:09:22 MAN_Hater: i spoke to lilo about it Jan 14 16:09:28 ok thank you Jan 14 16:09:29 --> _bs (~bs@zeroth.crossbar.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:09:45 and others Jan 14 16:09:52 =) Jan 14 16:09:59 * MAN_Hater kisses nixor Jan 14 16:10:10 i started hating irc today Jan 14 16:10:20 :) Jan 14 16:10:20 I did that yesterday Jan 14 16:10:35 sdogi_, ? Jan 14 16:10:36 i rand XGizzmo earlier, but he didn't answer... unlucky for him =P Jan 14 16:10:39 but seriously, what's GUS? Jan 14 16:10:39 like most of the computer related stuff, it doesn't let me to do important computer related stuff Jan 14 16:10:49 s/rand/rang Jan 14 16:10:56 <-- rlm has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 16:11:06 MAN_Hater: i guess it happens everyday :) Jan 14 16:11:08 sdogi_: IRC ? Jan 14 16:11:15 --> sami_ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:11:27 phrag: yep Jan 14 16:11:29 IRC 'doesn't let me to do important computer related stuff' ? Jan 14 16:11:31 like what ? Jan 14 16:11:38 it is a chat protocol Jan 14 16:11:45 not a shell Jan 14 16:11:51 what more important stuff is there then IRC? ;D Jan 14 16:12:12 don't be picky... ok i'll say chatting here - there... it just takes awfully lot of time Jan 14 16:12:26 tewmten: next time pat comes in... Jan 14 16:12:30 don't speak =P Jan 14 16:12:38 pat seems to know that :) Jan 14 16:12:47 phrag: why? Jan 14 16:12:51 hehe Jan 14 16:12:58 i admire that Jan 14 16:12:58 me mumbles, Harmuph, IRC won't do my laundry. :) Jan 14 16:13:23 phrag, ? Jan 14 16:13:27 irc allows me contact with other humans Jan 14 16:13:41 tewmten: read the logs... notice everyone speaking maturely... except you Jan 14 16:14:09 hey he was just excited Jan 14 16:14:09 tewmten, your speaking license is revoked ;-P Jan 14 16:14:14 :) Jan 14 16:14:17 dUc0N: apparently Jan 14 16:14:48 phrag: I didn't speak less maturly then I usually do, why would today be any different? Jan 14 16:14:57 yeah well, actually it's not only irc, there are also telnet based "chatting systems" and aim, etc Jan 14 16:15:01 exactly the point Jan 14 16:15:02 should go back to email Jan 14 16:15:09 where are xset system defaults kept? Jan 14 16:15:58 tewnmtem - it's south america - not singapore Jan 14 16:16:02 * MAN_Hater grins Jan 14 16:16:18 Hmm... an error is output to the screen while booting, but it scrolls off faster than I can read it. Can't find it in any logs nor in dmesg... How can I catch this error? Jan 14 16:16:23 --> feross (~feross@techdept.boca.prosolutionsinc.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:16:26 tewmten: would of thought you had the sense to conduct yourself properly for like 30 minutes, that is all Jan 14 16:16:37 what is up with this channel?! it's like when someone get op they sucumd to the dark side.. sandman1 is all nice and stuff, but when he was op he was a completly different person, and it's the same with you phrag Jan 14 16:16:47 *sigh* Jan 14 16:17:15 * MAN_Hater thinks ok what tha hell I was banned yesterday (what's twice - some one throw me the url for irc freenode html page please Jan 14 16:17:48 do any of you guys know where xset gets its defaults from? Jan 14 16:18:06 meta-ridley: hm, wait Jan 14 16:19:20 meta-ridley: actually, do it yourself, strace it Jan 14 16:19:37 tewmten: dude.. just follow channel policy Jan 14 16:19:52 my concern is the interest of this channel... any problems you have with my actions regarding channel maintenance and maintaining a peaceful, mature, working enviroment, aswell as a social and nice place to hang out without being to formal, can be directed to myself, unixfool, juhl, kyle_s, and lilo Jan 14 16:20:14 I still don't see what I did wrong during the short period Patrick was in here Jan 14 16:20:27 if a collect disagree on something, i would usually be persuaded Jan 14 16:20:40 has anyone seen sandman around lately? Jan 14 16:20:49 meta-ridley: it seems to open file .Xauthority but that's not it i think Jan 14 16:20:52 ok I am gonna post this because I just feel it is realated to slackware :->>Criticizing someone's behavior on channel holds them up to public scrutiny in a negative way. It's usually overkill. In your messages, don't address the subject of whether you have channel operator privileges; just be courteous. Request nicely that they change their behavior. In many cases you'll discover that problem user you are dealing with is me Jan 14 16:20:52 . An aggressive tone makes for a longer and more involved discussion, and pent-up frustration which will raise the channel temperature sooner or later. Jan 14 16:21:01 meta-ridley: /msg seenserv seen sandman1 Jan 14 16:21:03 if someone does not like my opping because they themselves were subject to a ban, then that is their problem Jan 14 16:21:41 thats a quote from freenode policy Jan 14 16:21:50 not slackware policy Jan 14 16:22:04 True... the banned person isn't exactly going to be objective or fair in their evaluation of an op's performance Jan 14 16:22:22 I can tell you that from opping on EFnet Jan 14 16:22:27 MAN_Hater: i hate repeating myself Jan 14 16:22:34 MAN_Hater: got a problem with me... see lilo Jan 14 16:22:37 tewmten: you too Jan 14 16:22:43 EFnet's a different beast altogether Jan 14 16:23:12 Dagmar, true, but the basic fundamentals of opping are the same for almost any IRC network Jan 14 16:24:07 --> Marverick (~slacker@200-101-037-099.cbabm7006.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:24:21 Yeah, but on EFnet, getting rid of problem users generally requires having some way to "shoot back" because you're not generally getting much support from upstairs aside from "suck it up" Jan 14 16:24:23 phrag: no I don't got a problem with you, but I don't think I acted immature this time. Jan 14 16:24:45 I do. Jan 14 16:24:53 Do I need to find the GUS comment? Jan 14 16:25:07 no, b/c I know what I said Jan 14 16:25:10 and it was a joke Jan 14 16:25:17 * Dominian shrugs Jan 14 16:25:22 perhaps you missed the "j/k" line I said after it Jan 14 16:25:24 obviously according to policy it wasn't a joke Jan 14 16:25:38 why not? Jan 14 16:25:54 Don't ask me. Jan 14 16:25:59 Dominian - he made a guess at what GUS stands for - Jan 14 16:26:07 Ask the Op that did it, he was in his fair judgement to do so Jan 14 16:26:18 MAN_Hater: I really don't care what he guessed.. not my problem. Jan 14 16:26:23 --> duardo (~Eduardo@200.168.58.218) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:26:30 same here - was just offering Jan 14 16:26:34 I'm not the one who got +q Jan 14 16:26:41 yet.. Jan 14 16:26:42 hehe Jan 14 16:26:49 I still don't understand why I got +q for that. Jan 14 16:26:49 * Pa^2 mumbles irc.oftc.net #slackware Jan 14 16:26:53 <- is smiling and ok Jan 14 16:27:29 i generally do not get complaints about my opping... Jan 14 16:27:37 lilo is about now, i am speakign with him in pm Jan 14 16:27:43 so if anyone does have a problem Jan 14 16:27:49 now would be a good time to bring it up Jan 14 16:27:59 I have a problem... I peed on myself when using the restroom... Jan 14 16:28:04 * Dominian smiles Jan 14 16:28:07 I just want to know why I got +q for that joke phrag. Jan 14 16:28:14 bah Jan 14 16:28:17 tewmten: just live with it Jan 14 16:28:28 heh Jan 14 16:28:30 W|GG-Laptop nailed me with one not long ago.. actually I got kicked.. didn't really bitch about it. Jan 14 16:28:39 I just sucked it up and moved on. Jan 14 16:28:54 hell I even got into an argument with ananke and just dealt with it.. cause I lost.. miserably Jan 14 16:28:56 well I don't have a problem getting shit for giving shit, but when I get shit for nothing, it upsets me Jan 14 16:29:12 eh whatever dude Jan 14 16:29:15 most people like freebies Jan 14 16:29:18 --> sybec (syb@sybec.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:29:27 If this stuff upsets you.. You have bigger problems than ##slackware on IRC Jan 14 16:30:07 --> Epidemical2 (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:30:17 <-- Heest has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 14 16:30:18 <-- Epidemical has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 14 16:30:22 --- Epidemical2 is now known as Epidemical Jan 14 16:30:29 i do not like, nor dislike an authoritive role, however i do like ensuring this channel stays clean, as i really like it here... having frequented many irc nets/channels Jan 14 16:30:41 * Pa^2 quickly steps away from this discussion. Time for more coffee. Jan 14 16:30:49 smokey time Jan 14 16:31:03 phrag: you may be right but it does feel a bit over-controlled here at times.... Jan 14 16:31:15 hehe Jan 14 16:31:30 ZipKid: such is life. Jan 14 16:31:46 You think you are free than someone says "hey waiter..I need a refill" Jan 14 16:31:48 ZipKid: thankyou for being honest Jan 14 16:32:46 but nothing will ever be to everyone's liking, some are too narrow minded, others too 'free'.... Jan 14 16:33:01 i try to balance Jan 14 16:33:23 it is hard to please everyone, as i am sure you all know Jan 14 16:33:45 I tell you what phrag ...i will even try to tone down my constant babbling a bit Jan 14 16:33:56 <_erik> considering the discordian/subgenius roots of slackware, i wouldn't get too bent up over some jokes around pat.. Jan 14 16:34:13 * MAN_Hater praise BOB for that Jan 14 16:34:24 i envisaged tewmten going on a drunk rampage Jan 14 16:34:26 like he often does Jan 14 16:34:29 * MAN_Hater crys cus I missed the saucers Jan 14 16:34:42 and wanted to maintain the integrity of the channel Jan 14 16:34:54 being that it was the first pat has visited ever Jan 14 16:34:57 what's "envisaged"? is that like a finer work for "booting him from the channel"? Jan 14 16:35:02 #slackware channel that is Jan 14 16:35:10 tewmten: saw Jan 14 16:35:22 ah. okay. Jan 14 16:36:13 oh my Jan 14 16:36:18 linus looks like a ... Jan 14 16:36:23 gosh, i don't even know Jan 14 16:37:00 * MAN_Hater can't wait till he visits ##slackware cuz maybe I can be adopted Jan 14 16:37:38 * phrag puts his defending stick away and smokes some Jan 14 16:37:54 volkerding looks evil Jan 14 16:38:04 real business man like Jan 14 16:38:13 * Mellen explodes in a cloud of improbability. Jan 14 16:38:29 looks good in a suit Jan 14 16:38:49 http://linuxtoday.com/special/lwesj2000/pics/dcp00676_t.jpg Jan 14 16:38:51 right... with long hair and those big hands... more like a martian in that suit. Jan 14 16:38:54 damn pinx Jan 14 16:38:59 hahaha Jan 14 16:39:13 Ya'll gotta try to keep the loaded questions to a minimum Jan 14 16:39:21 oh well it is the age of the hellcreature Jan 14 16:39:22 Anyone happen to know where Thunderbird stores its junkmail filter's training data? Jan 14 16:40:11 _erik: Discordians are not the same thing as Subgenii Jan 14 16:40:43 Generally any place you'll find both, you'll find some nasty looks being passed between the two camps on general principle Jan 14 16:41:11 so no one can tell me what GUS is then? Jan 14 16:41:12 ...because if it weren't for the other, they'd be the only religion proclaiming proudly that they made it all up Jan 14 16:41:17 * MAN_Hater wants to moph into discordia Jan 14 16:41:26 tewmten: Some german guys who cobble security fixes now and then Jan 14 16:41:26 * MAN_Hater wants to morph into discordia Jan 14 16:41:32 ok Jan 14 16:41:47 <_erik> i never said they were Jan 14 16:41:52 ...or possibly Gravis UltraSound, depending on the context. Jan 14 16:41:55 <-- sybec (syb@sybec.user) has left ##slackware Jan 14 16:42:23 tewmten - do you read slackware changelogs ? (*hint* Jan 14 16:42:26 _erik: " considering the discordian/subgenius roots of slackware [...]" Jan 14 16:42:43 <_erik> excellent job. next topic. Jan 14 16:42:49 tewmten, maybe it stands for "Geniuses Use Slackware" ;-P Jan 14 16:42:51 <_erik> i still have a working gus Jan 14 16:42:59 MAN_Hater: haven't read it in a while, no. Jan 14 16:43:02 pat was not too happy about slackcare Jan 14 16:43:15 I never saw any discordian anything until like Slack 5 or so Jan 14 16:43:43 I picked slack up with v9 Jan 14 16:44:19 phrag: Can you blame him? They're basically purporting to accept money for his work (which is not that big of a deal) but also using the "slack" brand to do it Jan 14 16:44:43 agrees with dagmar - hence my linspire comment Jan 14 16:44:56 I'd be kinda pissed if someone were trying to cash in using my credibility Jan 14 16:45:02 --> four779 (~theron@65-102-149-233.tukw.qwest.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:45:04 --> KaioRafael (~kaio@200.222.15.249) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:45:13 <-- d_low has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 16:45:21 Actually, I'd go on a blood-soaked rampage, but that's just my "special" way of dealing with problems through mass destruction. Jan 14 16:45:39 hmm Jan 14 16:45:40 <_erik> and why did I need linspire Jan 14 16:45:42 --> dadexter (~dadexter@modemcable032.0-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:45:53 --> d_low (~d_low@dlow-00000001.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:46:00 Xgates might have a law suit on his hands soon =P Jan 14 16:46:07 --> no_matter (~no_matter@c-66-41-105-103.mn.client2.attbi.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:46:20 _erik - you mentioned - wait I will go read the log again Jan 14 16:46:27 --> te0x (~te0x@81.208.74.2) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:46:33 Speaking of MickyMouse... I wonder if the Disney people would be interested in the copyright violation taking place on the slackcare website Jan 14 16:46:56 * MAN_Hater mumbles snitch Jan 14 16:47:00 Dagmar: they have drills! Jan 14 16:47:22 <_erik> yeah i said i was worried about people buying packages from xgates. considering he doesn't appear to know much. i saw him learn some very shady package building techniques in this channel. and for some reason I need linspire? Jan 14 16:47:47 A long time ago at Walnut Creek CDROM, a new employee put a 320x240 gif of Mickey Mouse on a clipart CD. Jan 14 16:47:51 <-- KaioRafael has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 16:47:59 --> ratifers (~ratifers@143.107.204.39) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:48:08 Dagmar: ...so i am sure they would Jan 14 16:48:12 _erik - oh i remeber now - you said that scared you - and I said go see linspire ( a deb rip off that doesn't work (well) Jan 14 16:48:22 back Jan 14 16:48:27 lo phrag :) Jan 14 16:48:27 boa tarde !! Jan 14 16:48:29 phrag: Looks like it's time to give that wheel of karma a little extra spin Jan 14 16:48:39 boa tarde !! Jan 14 16:49:14 boa tarde ratifers Jan 14 16:49:22 --> woot (~jason@C01-069.netonecom.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:49:23 installing krokodile :) Jan 14 16:49:31 hehe lilo Jan 14 16:49:45 foi malz mandar 2 X a mesma msg ! Jan 14 16:49:58 ratifers: sorry, I don't speak Portuguese *sighrin* Jan 14 16:50:04 ratifers: but hi 8) Jan 14 16:50:30 * lilo just recognized the cognate from Spanish Jan 14 16:50:30 I will have to keep my eyes peeled for telltales in slackcare packages Jan 14 16:51:03 Unlike Pat, I'm not so mellow about people making money off my work (without givin' me a cut) Jan 14 16:51:04 ratifers: If you like speak portuguese, goes to #slackware-br Jan 14 16:51:17 --> Zxcvb (asdf@client-216-176-89-143.consolidated.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:51:21 lilo, sorry, Jan 14 16:51:31 PiterPunk, ok Jan 14 16:51:47 bye !! Jan 14 16:51:50 <-- ratifers (~ratifers@143.107.204.39) has left ##slackware ("Fui embora") Jan 14 16:51:54 _erik in other words linspire changes (by the month) for the privledge of downloading packages of debian (repackaged by linspire Jan 14 16:52:02 <-- tklauser (~noone@130.60.169.171) has left ##slackware ("bye") Jan 14 16:52:09 changes-=charges Jan 14 16:52:26 <_erik> i know what linspire is. why do you think i need it? Jan 14 16:52:36 is it actually impossible for an x86-64 bit app to use 32 bit libraries, or is it just that 64 bit apps have to be written to handle 32 bit libraries and most aren't? Jan 14 16:52:47 I didn't think you needed it Jan 14 16:53:15 MAN_Hater: Let's not forget the sorry handling of security privs that LInspire does Jan 14 16:53:42 lilo: how come nobodys made a bot or script that can translate thru babelfish or something similiar ? Jan 14 16:53:59 This section on slackcare's site trash-talking linuxpackages.net is just so classy it's "double-wide" Jan 14 16:54:10 --> _Hitek_ (~Hitek@ALille-209-1-1-199.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:54:21 four779: good question....maybe because babelfish and google language and all of those services produce such awful translations 8) Jan 14 16:54:23 dagmar - i was only comparing (linspire charging for debian packages- to others charging for slackware packages Jan 14 16:54:28 <_Hitek_> hello Jan 14 16:54:30 --> maddler (~maddler@195.110.158.19) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:54:33 four779: How much entirely correct English do you see from native English-speakers on IRC? Jan 14 16:54:43 lilo: aah, it can be done then ? Jan 14 16:54:52 so, when will it be switched over to #slackware? maybe later during the evening? Jan 14 16:54:54 Zxcvb: 64bits apps needs 64bits library, 32bits apps needs 32bits library... Jan 14 16:55:14 PiterPunk: but why couldn't a 64 bit app be written so it could use some 32 bit libraries Jan 14 16:55:35 Dagmar: they could just do a /msg translator (br) blah blah blah and it will translate it to english for them Jan 14 16:55:36 Zxcvb: In theory, because the chip doesn't use the same instruction set Jan 14 16:55:36 isn't there emulation for 64bit and 32bit? Jan 14 16:55:47 four779: there are eggdrop scripts Jan 14 16:55:49 PiterPunk: such as 64 bit mplayer using 32 bit codecs Jan 14 16:55:55 PiterPunk someone in another channel was asking about you Jan 14 16:56:01 phrag: aah, didnt know that Jan 14 16:56:07 MAN_Hater: another? Jan 14 16:56:12 been around awhile Jan 14 16:56:16 four779: Not likely to work. We have people who don't speak machine-translatable English as the norm. The other language-speakers are no different. Jan 14 16:56:17 hi PiterPunk Jan 14 16:56:24 phrag: hi man! Jan 14 16:56:25 Dagmar: it shouldn't be any different than a protected mode app using real mode bios calls (see dos4gw) Jan 14 16:56:37 http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=16214 Jan 14 16:56:46 Dagmar: but they could speak in their NATIVE toungue and the script would translate it to english Jan 14 16:56:53 Zxcvb: Well, if you're trying to run Mac binaries in that mode, then sure. Jan 14 16:57:08 Dagmar: no, x86-64 Jan 14 16:57:09 tongue Jan 14 16:57:22 Dagmar: it has built in 32 bit support Jan 14 16:57:32 four779: Again, as just one example, we've got people who, in theory, have had at least 18 years of practical experience with English who can't manage to put a sentence together Jan 14 16:58:10 If people actually used their language properly on IRC, it might work. Jan 14 16:58:19 hola PiterPunk Jan 14 16:58:22 However, they don't, so it won't. Jan 14 16:58:47 Dagmar: I know two languages 1) English and 2) Bad English Jan 14 16:58:48 ^^^loves the sentence dagmar just typed Jan 14 16:58:53 Dagmar: wot U meen, 1 uze propper 3ngl15h @ 1RC LOL :D Jan 14 16:58:58 --> Analyzer (~Analyzer@ts3-a85.Vladivostok.dial.rol.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:59:03 Dominian: hola Jan 14 16:59:10 PiterPunk: Hi! Did you notice what volkerdi said about security updates? Jan 14 16:59:17 hello everybody Jan 14 16:59:28 Give it another 10 years and IRC will devolve into a polyglot that is an equally brutalized melange of enough languages that everyone will type it equally poorly. Jan 14 16:59:29 --> rlm (~rlm@n216.isratek.edunet.ru) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 16:59:35 mentioned slacksec not mailing him at all Jan 14 16:59:56 re all Jan 14 16:59:56 And that other groups should cooperate with GUS. Jan 14 16:59:58 ...which of course is a sign that clearly they're up to something. Jan 14 17:00:03 * MAN_Hater types "however , they don't , so it won't " into a english to dutch translator Jan 14 17:00:07 where is libpam.so.0 in slackware 10? Jan 14 17:00:16 rlm: nowhere Jan 14 17:00:18 ...or it might just be that they didn't want to bother him with what is essentially a zero-thought operation Jan 14 17:00:23 rlm: pam is not included in slackware, you have to install it yourself Jan 14 17:00:28 :(( Jan 14 17:00:30 rlm: Virtually nonexistant, why? Jan 14 17:00:46 --> blackhat-- (1000@217.219.181.48) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:00:56 VMWare-GSX-Server required for libpam.so.9 Jan 14 17:00:58 VMWare-GSX-Server required for libpam.so.0 Jan 14 17:01:09 <-- phiend has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 17:01:13 I know I didn't bother emailing anyone about the tiff update I put on linuxpackages.net. Jan 14 17:01:13 rlm: use the .tgz Jan 14 17:01:41 i knew if i mentioned the channel enough in emails he would come by eventually... thought he would of stealthed it though =P Jan 14 17:01:44 i don't find .tgz gsx server on www.vmware.com Jan 14 17:01:45 phrag: If you know of any good mobo/processor combos and good pricing on mem.. let me know ;) Jan 14 17:02:01 Dominian: in uk ? Jan 14 17:02:10 eh.. preferrably in the US Jan 14 17:02:14 --> r3z` (Uhm@adsl-065-007-146-053.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:02:16 dunno how much shipping from UK to here would be Jan 14 17:02:17 <-- r3z has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 17:02:17 rlm: I don't think I even want to know what you're installing that appears to be claiming you need some server package to install libpam. Jan 14 17:02:17 <-- Neur0 has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 17:02:39 <-- four779 has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 17:02:56 <-- foureyes779 has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 17:03:18 phrag maybe he has for years (grin Jan 14 17:03:21 <-- sladegen (~sladegen@xdsl-532.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 14 17:03:22 Dagmar: I think he is trying to install Vmware ESX server and it needs pam Jan 14 17:03:39 rlm: why are you using gsx/esx server anyway? Jan 14 17:03:41 MAN_Hater: maybe =P Jan 14 17:04:25 rlm: unless you are setting up a server so multiple people can run vmware sessions remotely, don't bother with it Jan 14 17:04:57 ok now I want to know what is GUS ? Jan 14 17:05:03 rlm: i.e. the vmware equivelant of a terminal server Jan 14 17:05:14 MAN_Hater: read changelog in topic Jan 14 17:05:19 ok Jan 14 17:05:25 thanx Jan 14 17:05:30 <-- r3z` has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 17:05:33 welcome Jan 14 17:05:44 --> r3z` (Uhm@adsl-065-007-146-053.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:05:44 MAN_Hater, hi :) Jan 14 17:05:49 MAN_Hater: gravis ultrasound, a very old sound card Jan 14 17:06:02 here there printing Analyzer *wink* Jan 14 17:06:10 I think she's referring to the german package makers Jan 14 17:06:24 hahah yes Zxcvb - that is the gus I am familiar with Jan 14 17:06:37 <_erik> gemeinschaft unabhangiger staaten Jan 14 17:06:52 ahh dutch that explains it Jan 14 17:06:57 That would make a good kmfdm song Jan 14 17:07:35 --> j0k3r (~rddalceno@200.189.78.206) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:08:08 --> foureyes779 (~theron@65-102-149-233.tukw.qwest.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:08:10 MAN_Hater, yes, now i can printing Jan 14 17:08:21 _erik - that comes up in a translator - thank you Jan 14 17:08:29 MAN_Hater, yes, now i can print!!! Jan 14 17:08:44 --> okmeufilho (1000@200-233-51-42.user.ajato.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:09:04 now i can smoking Jan 14 17:09:10 heh Jan 14 17:09:16 phrag, tell me... why am I banned from #ET? Jan 14 17:09:16 ananlyzer - did you write a help page about it ? Jan 14 17:09:20 * foureyes779 roll's a smoke Jan 14 17:09:28 * Dagmar are too smoking Jan 14 17:09:50 okmeufilho: irratic cycling... this is not 'tour de france' =) Jan 14 17:10:15 --> sami__ (~sami@h237n2fls35o954.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:10:16 hehe Jan 14 17:10:31 _erik "commonwealth of states" ?? Jan 14 17:10:44 MAN_Hater, no! it was very easy to write help page:) Jan 14 17:10:50 ok... how would I do that: find all subdirs in a dir tree, cd there, do something there, cd back Jan 14 17:10:57 phrag, can you unban me please? Jan 14 17:11:00 find somehow doesn't work: Jan 14 17:11:09 MAN_Hater, do u stady? Jan 14 17:11:21 find . -type d -exec "cd {}; ls; cd -" \; Jan 14 17:11:24 _erik "commonwealth of Independent States" ?? Jan 14 17:11:28 okmeufilho: Dominian will, i have to go Jan 14 17:11:38 back in a bit Jan 14 17:11:39 analyzer - eh no Jan 14 17:11:42 find works. Jan 14 17:12:04 <-- zer0python has quit (Operation timed out) Jan 14 17:12:13 Dagmar: any clues? the way i put it above won't work Jan 14 17:12:24 phrag: Will do Jan 14 17:12:40 --> liMbiz (~LinuxSlac@192.100.180.253) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:12:43 okmeufilho: unbanned Jan 14 17:12:45 have a nice day! Jan 14 17:12:48 phrag: done Jan 14 17:13:07 DexterF: Not until you say what you're really trying to do. What you posted just looks dumb. Jan 14 17:13:19 There's nothing wrong with ls {}; Jan 14 17:13:24 aw, how nice, thanks Jan 14 17:13:29 ok: Jan 14 17:13:45 there's a tree with some subdirs having zip files in it Jan 14 17:14:07 OKay Jan 14 17:14:13 so i'd like to dive thru all dirs and when there's a zip - unzip it Jan 14 17:14:23 i *can't* do the following Jan 14 17:14:30 find zip -exec unzip Jan 14 17:14:43 find . -type f -name *.zip for one... Jan 14 17:14:49 because the zips will get extracted ... Jan 14 17:14:52 i abbr. it Jan 14 17:14:55 for the moment Jan 14 17:15:12 ... will get extracted all in the dir where i ran the find Jan 14 17:15:12 --> GuBA (~obiwan@208.29.128.59) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:15:24 so i need to cd there and run unzip Jan 14 17:15:38 <-- GuBA (~obiwan@208.29.128.59) has left ##slackware ("http://galeria.gsol.ws") Jan 14 17:15:40 No, you don't. Jan 14 17:15:42 <-- jjdm (~jjdm@84-72-61-16.dclient.hispeed.ch) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 14 17:15:46 `man basename` and `man dirname` Jan 14 17:16:09 do any of you guys play america's army Jan 14 17:16:17 ls *.* | grep zip Jan 14 17:16:21 If you break the problem down into it's component steps instead of focusing on what you can and can't do, it will become much easier Jan 14 17:16:28 nothing to do with slackware i know Jan 14 17:16:31 just wondering :) Jan 14 17:18:48 DexterF: For one thing, spawn to a subshell before cd'ing. Then you don't have to cd back Jan 14 17:18:53 <-- sami_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 17:19:22 uh huh. like -exec bash [...] ? Jan 14 17:19:38 --> orlan (~ruut@ellon.ipv6.slackware-germany.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:19:45 No, like exec blah ; ( cd $dirname ; do foo ) \; Jan 14 17:19:53 ah. ic. Jan 14 17:19:55 single parens = subshell Jan 14 17:20:10 learn sth new every day. Jan 14 17:20:20 --> DuRaZNo (~durazno@200.121.244.32) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:20:38 --> Neur0 (~nick@227.011.dsl.vic.iprimus.net.au) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:21:18 If you only have one level of directories, it would also be simpler to use for dirname in `ls -d`; do done instead of find for the outer iteration Jan 14 17:21:39 <-- orlan (~ruut@ellon.ipv6.slackware-germany.de) has left ##slackware ("No windows for this computer") Jan 14 17:21:40 * Mellen solved his chicken'n'egg fiberchannel problem. Jan 14 17:21:42 yay Jan 14 17:21:49 --> Epidemic1l (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:21:50 --- sami__ is now known as sami_ Jan 14 17:21:56 Dagmar: tree depth varies Jan 14 17:22:06 --> Kyle_S_ (~kyle@c-24-12-143-3.client.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:22:08 --> kyper (~kyper@carbon.redbrick.dcu.ie) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:22:33 upgradepkg , telinit 1 :) see ya latter Jan 14 17:22:35 <-- radiohead has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 17:22:36 DexterF: Cd'ing is still a mistake tho Jan 14 17:22:58 phrag: know gbp->usd exchanging rate? Jan 14 17:23:14 Dagmar: pass dir to extract to to unzip rather? Jan 14 17:23:20 Yes Jan 14 17:23:43 Keep in mind that the cd command doesn't actually do a damn thing beyond setting an environment variable Jan 14 17:23:46 they have received data from Titan (from Huygens):D Jan 14 17:24:09 cool. Jan 14 17:24:24 a minute ago the first data came in Jan 14 17:24:34 URL? Jan 14 17:24:39 nasa tv Jan 14 17:24:43 hey, anyone set up pam using ldap in slackware? Jan 14 17:24:56 --> pamor (~cmc@datasim.cmc.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:24:56 <-- pamor has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 17:25:01 DexterF: You can set PWD just as easily, which is why cd'ing around is generally something you don't need to do Jan 14 17:25:21 Dagmar: say, how long have you been working with unix/linux...? Jan 14 17:25:47 DexterF: Ummm... I'm pre intarweb. ;) Jan 14 17:26:00 k :) Jan 14 17:26:07 Something like 10-15 years now Jan 14 17:26:26 into unix for a living? Jan 14 17:26:30 Yep Jan 14 17:26:32 --> holmes (~truey2k@cpc1-seve1-4-0-cust19.popl.cable.ntl.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:26:39 FAT lot of good it did me in 2001 tho Jan 14 17:26:47 er 2002 Jan 14 17:27:12 like how? Jan 14 17:27:18 --> seberino (~seberino@seberino.spawar.navy.mil) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:27:28 Oh that whole little dot-com blowout thing Jan 14 17:27:45 You know, where 3/4 of San Francisco was unemployed for awhile Jan 14 17:28:59 <-- holmes has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 17:29:44 then came ....well those websites that everyone pays to see (smirk Jan 14 17:30:39 * foureyes779 waits for San Franciso to fall into the ocean Jan 14 17:31:16 --> sunbx (~awx@82.76.44.123) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:31:55 --> iorsi (~iorsi@Toronto-HSE-ppp3665057.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:32:02 hello i replaced my hdd with a new one , exacly the same but with different partitions. how do i update... i mean what do i have to update as it seems to see only 96 gigs but there are 110 there Jan 14 17:32:25 --> zer0python (~zer0pytho@pcp0011004121pcs.longhl01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:32:32 Dagmar: no, hear that 1st time. 3/4 - for real? Jan 14 17:33:06 great, I ran outta dvd blanks Jan 14 17:33:13 bleh... xorg won't give me a higher resolution Jan 14 17:33:18 --> AlienPenguin (~nevyn@host227-142.pool8251.interbusiness.it) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:33:42 <-- Kyle_S has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 17:34:04 --> Zalamander (~zal@zalamander.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:34:09 ok Jan 14 17:34:11 nobody ? Jan 14 17:34:12 :) Jan 14 17:34:14 hello i replaced my hdd with a new one , exacly the same but with different partitions. how do i update... i mean what do i have to update as it seems to see only 96 gigs but there are 110 there Jan 14 17:34:25 needed to repeat yhat sorry i really need help. Jan 14 17:34:43 <-- Epidemical has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 17:34:51 anyone feel like writing me a .SlackBuild? Jan 14 17:35:41 sunbx: both disks same brand? Jan 14 17:35:54 and update *what*? Jan 14 17:36:07 --> jmedina (~jmedina@63.70.73.227) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:36:08 --> jmedina_ (~jmedina@63.70.73.227) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:36:11 fred87: depends.. you write me a sylpheed-kmail script? ;) Jan 14 17:36:16 ping phrag Jan 14 17:36:26 dexterF, give me a small sample sylpheed dir :) Jan 14 17:36:35 and write me a tex.SlackBuild :P Jan 14 17:36:36 phrag ping Jan 14 17:36:43 sunbx, did you try to zero out the new drive and partition it again? Jan 14 17:36:45 tex. umm. Sylpheed is good. Jan 14 17:36:51 lol Jan 14 17:37:08 DexterF, sylpheed-claws is best Jan 14 17:37:24 tex is different from tetex? Jan 14 17:37:25 <-- Zxcvb (asdf@client-216-176-89-143.consolidated.net) has left ##slackware Jan 14 17:38:03 Analyzer: i run claws, but it seriously lacks certain stuff like personal lists, better addressbook, better mime handling etc etc Jan 14 17:38:04 hi, i installed a slacware 10 and upgraded to 'current' via swaret, what should i set in order to see cyrillic fonts in my browsers? Jan 14 17:38:06 zalamander, nope Jan 14 17:38:07 plus gtk1 blows Jan 14 17:38:10 just i need a tetex.slackbuil Jan 14 17:38:18 all there is for tetex is COMPILE.slackware Jan 14 17:38:23 and i'm bored of writing slackbulds :P Jan 14 17:38:47 <-- blackpit has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 17:38:57 --> blackpit (~blackpit@reverse.cti.gr) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:38:58 argh Jan 14 17:39:06 im very tired of aterm Jan 14 17:39:15 and xterm doesnt work since i upgraded to 2.6 Jan 14 17:39:28 try konsole? ;) Jan 14 17:39:45 sorry, i dont like KDE Jan 14 17:39:46 fred87 it appears to me that the only thing the COMPILE script fails to do is run the makepkg command Jan 14 17:40:03 anyone else ever had xterm die with an upgrade to 2.6.10? Jan 14 17:40:10 --> Lurkan (~Lurkan@201.135.159.181) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:40:35 zalamander, if i just tagged that on the end, it would pack *the entire tree* Jan 14 17:40:37 not just tetex Jan 14 17:40:44 sunbx: do you know the command for zeroing out a parttion ? Jan 14 17:40:47 --> aty (~aty@adsl-4-149.pool.tvnet.hu) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:40:57 +i Jan 14 17:41:37 Where do I buy an ethernet-modem cable? Jan 14 17:41:46 Dagmar: find . -name *.zip -exec echo unzip -d $(dirname{} ) $(basename {} ) \; Jan 14 17:41:51 man_hateR: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdX Jan 14 17:41:55 almost there - but dest directory is . Jan 14 17:41:55 or sdXX Jan 14 17:42:03 <-- jmedina_ has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 17:42:11 fred87 thank you Jan 14 17:43:09 iorsi : the same place you bought the modem Jan 14 17:43:28 man_hater, my modem was shipped to me in the mail. Jan 14 17:43:36 man_hater, by my isp. Jan 14 17:43:41 it should have included the cable Jan 14 17:43:50 yes, but i need a fresh one. Jan 14 17:44:26 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-216-77-193-80.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:44:29 well you worded it correctly - altho it is also called somethingelse Jan 14 17:44:36 DexterF that dash before the 'd' option will need to be escaped as well. Jan 14 17:44:40 <-- taortan has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 17:44:41 do you ever get that not-so-fresh feeling when you get online in the morning? Jan 14 17:45:13 iorsi - google for it - they sell them here and there Jan 14 17:45:14 maybe you need a new cable... or, some summer's eve cable cream Jan 14 17:45:45 jabooty- summer eve is not a cream Jan 14 17:45:57 Zalamander: interesting. but for the moment i need to strip the filename from the path Jan 14 17:46:09 what is the name of the cable i seek? Jan 14 17:46:19 wilbur? Jan 14 17:46:25 MAN_Hater: I couldn't think of a fun way to use vagisil :( Jan 14 17:46:33 it plugs from my dsl modem to my ethernet card. it is beefy and with bigger plugs than phone lines. Jan 14 17:46:35 --- Epidemic1l is now known as Epidemical Jan 14 17:46:38 <^Jenn> ewww? Jan 14 17:46:48 iorsi: patch cable. Jan 14 17:46:55 patch cable? Jan 14 17:46:57 plain ethernet or RJ45 Jan 14 17:47:10 DexterF I don't understand how those two things relate, I'm just noticing that the dash will give you problems if you don't escape it (find will interpret it as an option, instead of leaving it for -exec) Jan 14 17:47:15 somethings up with my network today Jan 14 17:47:19 unless you have soem seriously weird modem Jan 14 17:47:21 iorsi - yes you are describing it correctly - so type that in gooogle sales thingie Jan 14 17:47:21 <-- jmedina has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 17:47:27 --> Sklet (~Sklet@200.118.115.240) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:47:34 i have found some cables now. Jan 14 17:47:43 in the audio world, you can buy premium cables. Jan 14 17:47:58 DexterF, think he might need a cross-over? Jan 14 17:48:00 i should like the best cable money can buy - for optimal speed and reliability. Jan 14 17:48:43 Zalamander: find . -name *.zip -exec echo unzip \-d $(dirname {} ) {} \; gives exactly the same result but still doesnt solve my problem Jan 14 17:48:43 iorsi, CAT5e will do just fine Jan 14 17:48:51 they actually *don't* relate at all Jan 14 17:48:52 * MAN_Hater mumblez I am out of here before I mumble cat 6 Jan 14 17:48:59 iorsi cable is rated ... so if you get an "cat5e" ethernet cable, you should be fine. Belkin makes good cables, with decent connectors on the end. Do not use USB though! Jan 14 17:49:05 --> hell|work (~solaris@te-64-146-73-82.transedge.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:49:05 cat6 for dsl modem? Jan 14 17:49:23 --> snarf (~snarf@12-220-134-83.client.insightBB.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:49:23 DexterF ok, I don't know about your situation. I might be able to help though if care to re-explain what you want to achieve. Jan 14 17:49:25 --> Gabrielsan (~gabriel@201009054216.user.veloxzone.com.br) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:49:26 --> AthlonRob (~rob@65.182.230.24) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:49:28 anyone tell me how to get slackware to boot into xwindows (not what i perfer but has to be done for what im doing) Jan 14 17:49:39 feross: if the modem manufacturer isnt all stupid - no Jan 14 17:49:39 xwindows.. Jan 14 17:49:42 just type startx Jan 14 17:49:46 feross - aren't there two types of cable on a dsl modem (one is a simple patch cord i thought the other had pin changes Jan 14 17:49:51 i want it to boot up, straight to xwindows Jan 14 17:49:52 Zalamander: gimme a moment Jan 14 17:49:58 not typing startx Jan 14 17:49:59 hell|work edit /etc/inittab, in the default run level line change the '3' to a '4' Jan 14 17:50:03 theres a deamon i know Jan 14 17:50:03 ah Jan 14 17:50:04 thanks Jan 14 17:50:07 shouldve known that one Jan 14 17:50:07 np Jan 14 17:50:29 Zalamander: dir tree, various depths. soem dirs have zip files in them. zips need to be extracted to the dirs in which they sit Jan 14 17:50:40 hell|work you might want to take a look at /etc/rc.d/rc.4 as well, to make sure you're using the graphical login manager you want to be using. Jan 14 17:50:44 my HD hdb partition is not correctly displayed ... is show 96 gigs but i have 110... Jan 14 17:50:52 <-- Mellen has quit ("Konversation terminated!") Jan 14 17:50:55 anything I can posibly do ? Jan 14 17:50:56 MAN_Hater, you have just plain patch and there's a cross-over patch. The green and the orange are switched on one end Jan 14 17:50:57 ok Jan 14 17:51:25 feross is that the one for the modem ? Jan 14 17:51:54 MAN_Hater, my cable modem requires a cross over to go to the pc. Jan 14 17:52:13 ok thanx that was my point - so does my dsl modem Jan 14 17:52:13 oh phrag: if you aint spoke to lilo yet, normally he will want to phone up an "official project contact" to verify channel etc... Jan 14 17:52:16 MAN_Hater, to connect to a router it doesn't because the router has an uplink port Jan 14 17:52:22 --> nologo (~nologo@HSE-Toronto-ppp296550.sympatico.ca) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:53:22 MAN_Hater, but I guess not all modems are the same. some might have autosense technology that will switch depending on the link they get Jan 14 17:53:27 iorsi - did you see what feross said ? Jan 14 17:53:50 yes Jan 14 17:54:10 ok good research will save you trouble Jan 14 17:54:28 i am looking. also, i had a phone cable that was wide and flat. is this a special/better type than standard phone cables? Jan 14 17:54:36 --> MacGyver (~blah@adsl-66-142-221-11.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 17:54:39 DexterF aha. I see the problem. I could do it in python ... I'd have to investigate deeply to figure that out in bash. Jan 14 17:55:15 iorsi just call your isp's tech support and get them to read you a parts list of what they shipped you Jan 14 17:55:18 hey, i found cat6 550 mhz cable now. Jan 14 17:55:34 ah, so it *is* complex... was starting to think i was dumb ;) Jan 14 17:55:48 iorsi, you will never use the full capability of the CAT6 it's a waste of money Jan 14 17:55:52 iorsi: for a 1MBit DSL Modem :) Jan 14 17:56:04 err dsl modem Jan 14 17:56:05 my modem is 3mbit Jan 14 17:56:07 hehe - I should have never mentioned it - Jan 14 17:56:14 * MAN_Hater mumblez fiber Jan 14 17:56:30 * MAN_Hater hides Jan 14 17:56:34 iorsi, as a matter of fact you will never use a CAT5e full capability but it's reasonably priced and you can use it in the future for internal network stuff Jan 14 17:56:45 <-- te0x has quit ("Bye Bye !") Jan 14 17:56:53 what say you oh people, IBM T42 laptop yay or nay? Jan 14 17:57:06 i connected splitter/modem with two wires from a hard disk flat cable, 5m. works like a charm :) Jan 14 17:57:14 twisted pair, nonsense... Jan 14 17:57:18 feross I hope iorsi just understands which cable goes where and which is needed now Jan 14 17:57:22 nologo: yay. Jan 14 17:57:25 if i run over cable with the wheel of my chair, does that damage it? Jan 14 17:57:36 yes Jan 14 17:57:41 eventually it will brake Jan 14 17:58:01 ok i don't want to get it but people who bought who run slack say it's a joke to get slack to run on it Jan 14 17:58:07 so i'll get it Jan 14 17:58:20 friend of mine has gentoo on it, says absolutely hassle free Jan 14 17:58:23 MAN_Hater, true a simple thing like a cable can be so confusing... :) Jan 14 17:58:39 well i am just worried about impeding the integrity of the wires such that my connection is distorted Jan 14 17:58:45 MAN_Hater, I can't wait for Fiber tho.. !!! common Verizon Jan 14 17:59:05 iorsi - get your parts list - the cables discriptions are on there Jan 14 17:59:07 "network cables will break when doing X" is urban legend. we did awkward things to them at work, even to fibers, you wouldn't believe what those things can take Jan 14 17:59:18 dexter: yeah linux runs well on the T42, i'd rather get a toshiba qosmio or an alienware laptop but they have too many draw backs for linux or just to much power Jan 14 17:59:40 ibm went downhill a couple years ago wrt laptops i think Jan 14 17:59:45 too much power? i don't understand how sth can have too much power Jan 14 17:59:48 nologo, Checked out Dell's also? they have some good lappies Jan 14 17:59:48 t42 cheap lg crap made in china Jan 14 17:59:48 * MAN_Hater throws sandpaper to feross for connectors Jan 14 17:59:58 lg = lucky goldstar Jan 14 18:00:14 iorsi: i heard ibm's laptops were still good but that they won Jan 14 18:00:22 t be for long since they sold the business Jan 14 18:00:26 <-- Epidemical has quit (Nick collision from services.) Jan 14 18:00:29 iorsi: t42=ibm, soon to be lenovo. thats crap from china then alright Jan 14 18:00:41 --> Epidemical (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:01:24 nologo, yeah, IBM selling PC business off so I'd be sceptical. Jan 14 18:01:48 yeah if i wait the t42 will no longer be ibm Jan 14 18:02:00 thanx again OPs and powers that be for my freedom here Jan 14 18:02:09 qpsmio i want but it's so new people can't get everything to work yet Jan 14 18:02:19 * MAN_Hater praise BOB for SLACK ! Jan 14 18:02:24 <-- MAN_Hater (~Too_Rude@adsl-69-151-249-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has left ##slackware ("How do parent penguins bring home food to feed their babies?") Jan 14 18:03:08 i would assume the parent penguins get fish from the ocean and then come back to ice cap and puke it up for the babies Jan 14 18:04:05 nologo, yup Jan 14 18:04:09 <-- maddler has quit ("UH!") Jan 14 18:04:23 --> lizzy_the_lesbo (~Destino@cp142381-a.schoo1.lb.home.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:04:29 like many other birds, they regurgitate the food for the babies Jan 14 18:05:16 hdparm -d1 -c3 -u1 /dev/hda ... is this thing safe ? Jan 14 18:05:17 man, I feel smart today ;) Jan 14 18:05:40 it does encrase my hd speed but ... does it have some bad things ? Jan 14 18:06:50 heh, I'll remember that word.. Someone had regurgitated a shitload of beer on the bus station - that sounds so scientific! :) Jan 14 18:07:39 <-- lizzy_the_lesbo has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 18:08:27 --> NiallJackson (niallj@dsl-80-43-86-70.access.uk.tiscali.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:08:33 <-- NiallJackson (niallj@dsl-80-43-86-70.access.uk.tiscali.com) has left ##slackware Jan 14 18:09:50 DexterF you want that python script? Jan 14 18:10:18 Zalamander: if oyu have it at hand, sure. Jan 14 18:10:32 <-- aty has quit ("leaving") Jan 14 18:10:32 DexterF I just wrote it. I'll post it, one sec Jan 14 18:11:49 DexterF Jan 14 18:11:56 http://cuodan.net/~zal/chzip.py Jan 14 18:12:00 --> fhobia (~fhobia@24-205-238-48.slo-cres.charterpipeline.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:12:10 <-- Gabrielsan has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 18:12:10 run "chzip.py " Jan 14 18:12:11 <-- _Hitek_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 18:12:31 yeah, it should be called "unzip.py" I know :-) Jan 14 18:12:32 --> _Hitek_ (~Hitek@ALille-209-1-1-199.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:13:22 Zalamander: good morning Jan 14 18:13:38 Zalamander: thanks. trying to understand it atm Jan 14 18:13:40 good morning IIII :-) Jan 14 18:13:51 heh Jan 14 18:14:31 DexterF it basically does the same thing as find -- with an added chdir to/from the directory where zip file resides before/after unzipping Jan 14 18:15:21 --> HellBunny (~pinkbunny@openwire.metawire.org) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:15:56 no doubt the same could be done in bash with a for loop ... but I think better in Python Jan 14 18:16:42 bbiab Jan 14 18:16:43 <-- Zalamander has quit ("BitchX-1.1-final") Jan 14 18:16:44 Zalamander: pretty much what i had in mind with find, dagmar talked me outta cd tho Jan 14 18:17:13 heh Jan 14 18:19:27 <-- Guse has quit () Jan 14 18:19:29 <-- AlienPenguin has quit ("Client exiting") Jan 14 18:19:51 bbiab=be back in a ...? Jan 14 18:19:58 --> blixkater (~smess@cust.8.147.adsl.cistron.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:19:59 bit Jan 14 18:20:41 what is the differnce between crossover patch cable and standard patch cable? Jan 14 18:21:03 crossover can connect two computers without hub/switch Jan 14 18:21:13 most hubs/switches won't work with crossover cables Jan 14 18:21:18 (noticable exception: dlink switches) Jan 14 18:21:40 iorsi : to understand the difference, you have to understand what they are and how ethernet works :) Jan 14 18:22:04 iorsi : see, each nic has transmit and receive. they're not on the same cables Jan 14 18:22:29 iorsi : crossover cable takes transmit from one end and puts it on the receive of the other, and vice versa Jan 14 18:22:30 --> Zalamander (~zal@zalamander.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:22:46 <-- jabooty-work has quit ("[BX] I'm out like a light...") Jan 14 18:22:58 hubs/switches do that internally. but for connecting two computers together, you have to use a crossover cable Jan 14 18:23:07 Zalamander: complains about a syntax error in l13: for root, dirs, files in os.walk(sys.argv[1]): Jan 14 18:23:08 when you get real good, like a jedi, you can connect two computers together without superglue. Jan 14 18:23:20 DexterF hm, not here. Lemme check that again Jan 14 18:23:29 Wha, using Wifi makes you a Jedi? :P Jan 14 18:23:52 I'm still using superglue, but one day soon... Jan 14 18:23:54 Epidemical : of course. wifi uses 'the force' :) Jan 14 18:24:03 --> jabooty-work (~Bosco@63.78.28.225) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:24:22 it's simple-- regular patch cable has pin outs 12345678 cross over has 36145278 right Jan 14 18:24:33 DexterF ah, I have an idea -- Python is whitespace sensitive -- make sure that you did not change any of the indentation, or include tabs or anything, in the way that you copy the script. Jan 14 18:24:36 Oh yeah.. but why couldn't the rebels break the imperial probe's signal then? I mean WEP is pretty weak Jan 14 18:25:07 Zalamander: wow. i suspected that. in fact, after inserting it in the editor, i had lotsa extra tabs Jan 14 18:25:13 epidemical, WPA :P Jan 14 18:25:15 (also week) Jan 14 18:25:17 *weak Jan 14 18:25:24 or tunnel via ssh Jan 14 18:25:28 whitespace sensitive... fro crying out loud Jan 14 18:25:29 feross : crossover has those pins only on one end :) Jan 14 18:25:30 DexterF try wgetting it, and using it directly maybe. Jan 14 18:26:21 <-- HellBunny has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 14 18:26:25 <-- ulix has quit ("leaving") Jan 14 18:26:34 thenuke: i get IndexError: list index out of range Jan 14 18:26:37 --> Flendor (Flendor@195.174.32.147) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:26:39 Hello. Jan 14 18:26:43 Zalamander, any tool to split my console up to 4 slices? Jan 14 18:26:45 ananke, you got me on that one :P Jan 14 18:26:46 --> cuba (~kaloyan@spfwsaiac01.securepop.ch) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:26:55 DexterF run it like "chzip.py " Jan 14 18:26:58 chansaw Jan 14 18:27:00 <-- liMbiz has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 14 18:27:03 chainsaw Jan 14 18:27:07 Zalamander: :} Jan 14 18:27:15 <-- vitor has quit ("flwww") Jan 14 18:27:21 <-- epic has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 18:27:34 DexterF all unzipped now? :-) Jan 14 18:27:58 Zalamander: cool, thanks :) Jan 14 18:27:59 we2by, what do you mean 4 slices? what do you want to do exactly Jan 14 18:28:15 DexterF my pleasure (please send donations to the tsunami fund or something :-) Jan 14 18:28:42 tho i really don't understand how this bugger works... I'll tip the pizza man ;) Jan 14 18:28:43 I want to split it up in 4 or mosre pices ao I can see the process change of different servers Jan 14 18:28:50 <-- usr13 has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 18:28:52 like 2 by 2 split or 3 by 3 Jan 14 18:28:54 what des that if __name__ do? Jan 14 18:28:55 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:29:47 Zalamander: nah, ill go read a bok about it or so, don't bother explaining - not #python here :) Jan 14 18:30:14 DexterF not much. It's just the "name" of the current python module, which is always set to "__main__" if the script is run directly. That condition isn't necessary, but it's python habit -- this way you could use the functions defined in that script without *running* the script itself. (sorry too late :-) Jan 14 18:30:17 You know that scene where Obi-Wan senses that the Death Star had blown up Alderaan? He saw a massive netsplit Jan 14 18:30:25 is there any fast way to crypt folders? not single files ? Jan 14 18:30:40 No Jan 14 18:30:56 Epidemical: LOL Jan 14 18:30:57 crypted filesytstem Jan 14 18:31:16 fred87 how do i crypt a filesystem ? do i need a separate partition ? Jan 14 18:31:22 sunbx: try jetico bestcrpt Jan 14 18:31:27 google Jan 14 18:31:30 no you don't, and google will tell you Jan 14 18:31:32 can use container files Jan 14 18:31:40 as can cryptoloop Jan 14 18:31:41 tar it, then encrypt it Jan 14 18:31:54 To my defense, it took my some time to remember the name Alderaan.. Otherwise that would've been sad. Jan 14 18:32:06 Aldebaraan Jan 14 18:32:40 Wha? Jan 14 18:32:53 <-- jabooty-work (~Bosco@63.78.28.225) has left ##slackware Jan 14 18:33:33 nm I'm kinda sickly over here Jan 14 18:33:34 fred87: cryptoloop sucks a$$ imo. way too complicated Jan 14 18:33:47 <-- Lurkan has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 18:33:52 losetup -e aes containerfile /dev/loop0 Jan 14 18:33:57 mount /dev/loop0 /some/place Jan 14 18:34:05 ta-da Jan 14 18:34:33 if that's too awkward, give yourself the suse mount patch Jan 14 18:34:49 then just mount -o loop,enc=aes containerfile /some/place Jan 14 18:35:02 root@sunbx:/database/web/pub/mvs/the_godfather/the_godfather_-_part1> losetup -e aes edata /dev/loop0 Jan 14 18:35:02 /dev/loop0: No such device or address Jan 14 18:35:03 --> usr13 (~cap@h246-63-238-213.mesh.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:35:05 tadddaaaaa Jan 14 18:35:05 :( Jan 14 18:35:06 <-- nixor has kicked sunbx from ##slackware (flood) Jan 14 18:35:06 --> sunbx (~awx@82.76.44.123) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:35:50 So what made you think you could use a /dev that doesn't exist? Jan 14 18:36:05 fred87 made me think that ;) Jan 14 18:36:10 ...and by the way, piracy is bad. Jan 14 18:36:23 i was assuming you had kernel support Jan 14 18:36:39 fred87 i am compiling the kernel right now what shalt i add ? Jan 14 18:36:39 --> StevenR (~foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:37:07 loopback support, cryptoloop support, and your favourite encrypting algorithm in the cryptographic api Jan 14 18:37:11 i'd recommend aes Jan 14 18:37:12 --> jabooty (~Bosco@63.78.28.225) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:37:13 --> At0mic_PC` (1000@216.78.69.38) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:37:16 we2by, can't you monitor the servers in 4 windows instead of splitting the sceen up into 4? Jan 14 18:37:17 Just turn 'em all on Jan 14 18:37:25 --- jabooty is now known as jabooty-work Jan 14 18:37:35 loopback ? Jan 14 18:37:43 can't see it anywere Jan 14 18:37:45 * sunbx is blind Jan 14 18:37:47 block device Jan 14 18:38:19 <-- StevenR has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 18:38:55 Cryptoloop Support Jan 14 18:38:55 ? Jan 14 18:38:59 enable ? Jan 14 18:39:49 --> thr1ce (~andrew@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:40:12 --> Alan_Hicks (~alan@wsip-68-101-44-227.mc.at.cox.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:40:33 yah Jan 14 18:41:24 --> qmasterrr (1000@pD9FF5A9F.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:41:42 --> gnats (~gnats@gnats.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:41:45 --> Papyrus (unique@61.5.8.39) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:41:50 Pat was in here? Jan 14 18:41:54 what did my join say ? Jan 14 18:42:02 Hear that Rob? You do the no-name stuff. I do the things people remember! :^) Jan 14 18:42:43 --> rhodes (~konversat@82-43-64-192.cable.ubr05.croy.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:42:59 thr1ce: Yeah. http://ctrl.tky.hut.fi/slackware.fi/slackware-freenode-2005-01-14.txt Jan 14 18:43:40 Hmmm... Alan? Jan 14 18:43:59 Don't worry about it. :^) Jan 14 18:44:06 You must elaborate now. :-) Jan 14 18:44:11 <-- gnats (~gnats@gnats.user) has left ##slackware Jan 14 18:44:47 Ohhh... I get it... I thought you meant #slacksec was the wrong channel. I see now you didn't mean to make that statement here. :-) Jan 14 18:44:53 <-- thr1ce has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 18:45:16 Blah blah blah. Get back to php! Jan 14 18:45:18 * AthlonRob goes back to his email writing Jan 14 18:45:23 --> str (~str@216.230.158.50) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:46:33 <-- mmu_man has quit ("Vision[0.9.6-0203]: i've been blurred!") Jan 14 18:47:15 * Papyrus goes back living Jan 14 18:47:31 <-- Flendor has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 18:49:00 Anyone know of a way to "trick" your isp into giving you the same (static) IP everytime you log on? Jan 14 18:49:32 At0mic_PC`: Depends on your ISP really. Jan 14 18:49:37 --> jmichaeljm (1000@202.131.163.13) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:49:48 --> thr1ce (~andrew@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:49:56 was Pat on this morning then? Jan 14 18:50:33 mmh Jan 14 18:50:37 At0mic_PC`: If you've got the typical DSL/Cable broadband account you probably wont' have to do anything. DHCP servers tend to continue to assign the same address to the same computer for as long as that machine is connected. Jan 14 18:50:44 yes thr1ce Jan 14 18:50:54 anyone knwo how come? 1st time i remember he showed up on irc Jan 14 18:51:19 At0mic_PC a really good trick that always works is to pay the ISP for a real static IP Jan 14 18:51:27 At0mic_PC-> as long as your mac addy sticks yeah you wont have much to worry about on a broadband connection Jan 14 18:51:29 the recent change to ##slackware was his reason, but he hang out here a bit Jan 14 18:51:38 just long enough to say he liked the people at linuxpackages.net and really didn't care for the ones at slackcare.com :) Jan 14 18:51:49 Alan_Hicks: Oh ok. I was just wondering if there was a way with dialup. I guess it was a wierd question on dialup though. Jan 14 18:51:55 At0mic_PC-> you may also want to look into a dynamic dns address Jan 14 18:51:56 At0mic_PC`: http://slackbook.lizella.net/chapter5-tcpip.html Jan 14 18:51:56 we will probably change back to #slackware Jan 14 18:52:02 --> Epidemic1l (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:52:09 With dial-up it ain't gonna happen. Jan 14 18:52:28 --> AcidChild (~ash@dsl-80-41-26-182.access.uk.tiscali.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:52:42 some one told me a kernel compile howto in here once can anyone tell the link. Jan 14 18:52:45 hmmm..... i think i found something tricky on XP... brb Jan 14 18:53:01 Alan_Hicks: Yeah I know. But sometimes I get disconnected then dialup again and have the same IP as the last I had which is kind of cool on IRC not having to reconnect to the irc servers heh. :) Jan 14 18:53:06 i have compiled the kernel .. Jan 14 18:53:12 now i need to boot from it. Jan 14 18:53:18 i donno how to do that bit. Jan 14 18:53:25 AcidChild: http://slackbook.lizella.net/chapter4-kernel.html Jan 14 18:53:53 --> MAN_Hater (~Too_Rude@adsl-69-151-249-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 18:54:16 ta Jan 14 18:54:34 AcidChild: Put the kernel in /boot along with some other stuff. I make sym links on mine and name the actual kernels a little different so I know the difference when cleaning /boot and I put in an extra lilo part where I can boot to the old kernel if needed. Jan 14 18:54:38 ta ta Jan 14 18:54:46 :/ Jan 14 18:55:02 ya Jan 14 18:55:07 thats wat i need. Jan 14 18:55:08 to do Jan 14 18:55:23 At0mic_PC it is certainly possible to get a static IP using dialup. You'd still need to fork out extra cash to your ISP though Jan 14 18:56:25 Zalamander: Yeah. It's not that important to me though. I thought there might be a way with a config that would render the same ip 50% of the time which would have been fine. Jan 14 18:56:35 <-- At0mic_PC has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jan 14 18:56:58 Maybe my new phoneline won't disconnect me so much. Jan 14 18:57:01 i am lost now =( Jan 14 18:57:08 . Jan 14 18:57:13 No, the IP you're assigned is strictly determined by the DHCP server. There's nothing locally you can do if the server doesn't want to give you that IP. Jan 14 18:57:14 AcidChild: You're in ##slackware Jan 14 18:58:05 haha very funny :) Jan 14 18:58:14 :) Jan 14 18:58:25 AHA ! Jan 14 18:58:47 :) Jan 14 18:59:05 didn't know there are still people using 56k Jan 14 18:59:21 At0mic_PC`, sorry cought on to the conversation late but you didn't check out dydns or anything? Jan 14 18:59:23 I have a question about ips - so then how does the adls script fake the ip then ? Jan 14 18:59:34 we2by seriously? There are doubtless people using slower connections than that! Jan 14 18:59:42 adsl Jan 14 19:00:05 feross: No, but isn't that for someone running a webserver or something? Jan 14 19:00:26 At0mic_PC`, you can use it for anything. Jan 14 19:00:32 Zalamander, are u kidding? Jan 14 19:00:41 we2by absolutely not Jan 14 19:00:51 my modem hisses. is this normal? Jan 14 19:00:58 no Jan 14 19:01:10 only moans are normal Jan 14 19:01:11 --> smoke_ (~smoke@64.140.93.2) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:01:20 why might it be hissing? Jan 14 19:01:23 hisses? it must be upset with you Jan 14 19:01:27 --> robc (~robc@robc.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:01:29 I don't see how dynamic DNS would help At0mic_PC` ... Jan 14 19:01:32 have you been downloading porn? Jan 14 19:01:37 At0mic_PC`, I have cable at home so I don't use any daemon tools or anything but basically you install a piece of software that updates dydns dns servers with your current IP Jan 14 19:01:40 lol Jan 14 19:01:41 how do i direct traffic going to the prerouting chain to other chains in iptables? Jan 14 19:01:47 we2by, there are probably ennough people running slow modems wihout knowing they are having a slow modem Jan 14 19:01:54 smoke_ -j Jan 14 19:02:01 Zalamander: slower then 56k? why would anybody? Jan 14 19:02:07 At0mic_PC`, you choose something like atomic.dyndns.org and that will always get you to your current IP Jan 14 19:02:20 zalamander ehh -j chain? .. isnt -j for the target? Jan 14 19:02:24 DexterF in many places, it is all that is available for a price they can afford. Not everyone lives in U.S./Europe Jan 14 19:02:32 <-- snarf has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 19:02:34 smoke_ yes, and a target can be another chain Jan 14 19:02:41 Modem sharing... 4 of us using one dialup connection Jan 14 19:02:42 DexterF bad phone lines (in the country Jan 14 19:02:43 feross: Ok. I'm checking them out now. Thanks. Jan 14 19:02:48 ahhh Jan 14 19:02:50 thanks Jan 14 19:02:54 no problem Jan 14 19:02:57 ok, lines, yes. Jan 14 19:02:59 feross-> on a dialup it has a low chance of working properly due to the updates that need to be sent to the dynamic dns servers iirc Jan 14 19:03:04 feross: Wouldn't irc be able to get my real IP everytime? Jan 14 19:03:36 At0mic_PC` dynamic DNS allows a domain name to be mapped to your (changing) ip address. It won't help you avoid reconnecting to IRC though, for example. Jan 14 19:03:42 openrbl.org/dnsbl?i=213.204.132.143 Jan 14 19:04:00 i got invalid arguemnt for 'iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 5190 -j POSTROUTING' Jan 14 19:04:06 ximpul, hmm, then it might not be the best option. I have cable so I'm clueless on dialup. Jan 14 19:04:18 <-- Epidemical has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 19:04:29 smoke_ hm, I'm not sure it makes much sense to jump from PREROUTING to POSTROUTING Jan 14 19:04:45 zala, ok, i try to input heh Jan 14 19:04:46 At0mic_PC`, yeah, but do you really want to be on IRC 24/7 chewing up bandwidth and opening up your computer.. Jan 14 19:04:51 feross-> yea, cable here too Jan 14 19:05:02 ehh it says invalid arguemnt for input too.. :/ Jan 14 19:05:10 smoke_ what are you trying to do exactly? Jan 14 19:05:11 Well another solution to my problem would be for IRC to time out on me a lot sooner. Jan 14 19:05:19 anyone care to comment - on the ip that is shown to the internet - verses the real ip ? and how it works adn why I couldn't lie and set ip this way ? Jan 14 19:05:26 smoke_ weed every day Jan 14 19:05:29 As it stands it takes around 10 minutes for freenode to ploop out. Jan 14 19:05:30 At0mic_PC` you know about the /ghost command? Jan 14 19:05:40 Yeah I can kill my old user. Jan 14 19:06:06 feross IRC uses pretty minimal bandwidth :-) Jan 14 19:06:16 At0mic_PC`, another solution that I heard is to email yourself your IP with a script from your computer every couple of hours. Jan 14 19:06:29 zalamander, ok, i have this bridge, and im trying to capture aol traffic, but for some reason my tcpdump wasnt seeing it, and i found out that the traffic was only getting to prerouting and nothoing else, and i want the traffic to go thru all the chaisn so i can detect it. Jan 14 19:06:32 --> MindChild (RntedMule@57.muca.pitt.washdctt.dsl.att.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:06:40 Zalamander, yeah but on 56k every ounce counts right :P Jan 14 19:06:47 heh Jan 14 19:06:55 feross I can't remember :-) Jan 14 19:07:16 MAN_Hater-> you can connect through a proxy server to mask your ip Jan 14 19:07:16 <-- cuba (~kaloyan@spfwsaiac01.securepop.ch) has left ##slackware Jan 14 19:07:27 ahhh there is the answer Jan 14 19:07:40 ximpul - good idea Jan 14 19:07:51 like the Tor network Jan 14 19:08:13 MAN_Hater, just be sure it's not a secret service honeypot proxy ;) did you read about the T-Mobile hacker? Jan 14 19:08:32 MAN_Hater-> just remember, nothing is secret, even your connection to that proxy server is logged and can be matched up with the traffic that you are generating on the server Jan 14 19:08:35 <-- AcidChild has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 14 19:08:46 smoke_ hm, doing that from the PREROUTING chain doesn't sound right to me. Are you tring to capture outbound traffic? If so, then a rule in the OUTPUT chain would seem most appropriate. Jan 14 19:08:47 no but I am not surprised (I have seen sherrif departments offer their servers LOL Jan 14 19:08:53 feross-> yeah, i read that, and as a t-mobile user i was very disappointed Jan 14 19:09:02 --> frank_endres (~frank@d80-170-140-145.cust.tele2.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:09:03 anyone know of problems between wlan-ng and slackcurrent? Jan 14 19:09:06 ximpul: For maximum anonymity, always use wifi hot spots and consistantly change your MAC address. Jan 14 19:09:23 ximpul, same here, this was for years.. Jan 14 19:09:41 Alan_Hicks-> yeah, as long as its different hotsopts one can get away with some stuff Jan 14 19:09:42 Zalamander, im trying to get outbound and inbound traffic Jan 14 19:09:52 feross-> yeah t-mobile knew of it for a year Jan 14 19:09:55 Zalamander, i have a switch mirrroring the wan traffic to the machine which is a bridge Jan 14 19:09:56 --> jjholt (IrcCE@dialup-4.252.164.114.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:10:11 Zalamander, but its only getting to the prerouting chain and pcap isnt catching it Jan 14 19:10:20 feross-> they said that the guy did not have access to credit card info but i think thats crap Jan 14 19:10:21 Hi. I have a problem running the game vegastrike (no music). Jan 14 19:10:23 <-- Polleke has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 19:10:25 smoke_ sorry, I don't knwo what pcap is. Jan 14 19:10:36 ximpul - oh yes I understand that part ... the trail of tears Jan 14 19:10:40 At0mic_PC`, so I guess those are your options, IRC, Email it, or DYDNS it. I go for email one at this point Jan 14 19:11:02 smoke_ but is sounds like you are actually FORWARDING the traffic, in which case it's the FORWARD chain you would need to specify your rule in. Jan 14 19:11:04 zalamander, its te library tcpdump uses. Jan 14 19:11:08 feross-> a long time ago (in omipoint days) they asked for my SS# and my address, both faked as they really had no need for it on a prepaid account Jan 14 19:11:10 ximpul, didn't think about it but you're prolly right Jan 14 19:11:11 smoke_ ah, ok Jan 14 19:11:24 hrmm Jan 14 19:11:27 --> rubert (~rubert@h224n2fls35o258.telia.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:11:30 but it doesnt let me do the -j to any of the chains Jan 14 19:11:37 MAN_Hater-> just be careful Jan 14 19:12:10 ximpul - not for me it was for mr/ms "how do I keep a constant IP " Jan 14 19:12:22 MAN_Hater-> ah Jan 14 19:12:22 i just found out that my wife didn't shut the door completely before she left and it was cold as hell outside...door must have been open like 4 hours or so Jan 14 19:12:23 smoke_ PREROUTING is just that -- pre. Your rule can go directly into the FORWARD chain instead Jan 14 19:12:55 * MAN_Hater thinks maybe she wants to snuggle when she gets home Jan 14 19:13:01 MAN_Hater: A proxy would be a very good soulution. But I think most IRC servers scan for proxies. Jan 14 19:13:02 :/ Jan 14 19:13:10 unixfool some new news from Patrick ... possible worth for topic inclusion: http://tinyurl.com/4fbet Jan 14 19:13:16 s/soulution/solution Jan 14 19:13:29 Zalamander, how would id o that? Jan 14 19:13:39 smoke_ same way you do it in the PREROUTING chain Jan 14 19:14:01 Zalamander, ? .. i got iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 5190 -j ? Jan 14 19:14:06 atomic_pc what are you up to ? - i mean why so much about irc ? Jan 14 19:14:07 do i do -j OUTPUT? Jan 14 19:14:10 --> AcidChild (~ash@dsl-80-41-26-182.access.uk.tiscali.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:14:26 smoke_ er no Jan 14 19:14:32 atomic_pc - it's all the same - wether you are on irc or not Jan 14 19:14:38 MAN_Hater: I just hate having to manually reconnect after my connection restarts. Jan 14 19:14:45 i got a msg saying somthing like this "kernel panick "root=" no amending" Jan 14 19:14:48 --> musb (~c8b50b3d@musb.user) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:14:53 i am missing somthing right. Jan 14 19:14:59 looks like it Jan 14 19:15:00 is it a system.map or somthing. Jan 14 19:15:14 atomic_pc use xchat adn or scripts Jan 14 19:15:15 I could wait. Really though if I could find out how to lower the time freenode takes to find out I'm not there it wouldn't be a problem heh. Jan 14 19:15:15 AcidChild-> no amending? did you point lilo to the correct root filesystem ? Jan 14 19:15:23 <-- Pechorin has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 19:15:26 eermm. Jan 14 19:15:34 * AcidChild goes looking Jan 14 19:15:37 smoke_ sorry, I don't really understand what you're trying to accomplish. You need to see packets going to/from somewhere? Running tcpdump on the box they are going to/from will work. If you want to sniff packets that are running between two other computers, maybe you should try something like snort instead of tcpdump Jan 14 19:15:45 make sure to re-run lilo too AcidChild Jan 14 19:16:13 Zalamander, no i coded my own sniffer type thing Jan 14 19:16:24 yes it aimed in the right place Jan 14 19:16:30 and i did "lilo -v" Jan 14 19:16:31 Zalamander, it works fine, but for some reason this network on the vlan its not catching the mirrored traffic quite correctly Jan 14 19:16:55 Zalamander, like i said, i can see the traffic making to the prerouting chain but no others Jan 14 19:16:57 smoke_: I still don't understand why you're bothering to try to use iptables as a sniffer. It's not designed to be one. Jan 14 19:17:03 AcidChild: system.map doesn't affect the booting of the system its a aid for diagnosing kernel oops Jan 14 19:17:11 kk Jan 14 19:17:13 well. Jan 14 19:17:16 DagaZ, im not, i just used it to diagnost my problem Jan 14 19:17:16 whats wrong? Jan 14 19:17:23 --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to unixfool Jan 14 19:17:32 hey unixfool Jan 14 19:17:36 and now iptables can possibly fix it by shaping my traffic to go the direction i need it to go. Jan 14 19:17:46 --> epic (~epic@220.80-202-211.nextgentel.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:17:53 eermm.. Jan 14 19:17:54 :? there's OP now ? since when ? Jan 14 19:18:06 ... Jan 14 19:18:07 <-- jjholt has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 19:18:08 sheesh relax you guys Jan 14 19:18:15 Papyrus: there is loads of op's Jan 14 19:18:20 they are just not oped Jan 14 19:18:20 AcidChild-> hmm, you arue it said 'no amending' ? Jan 14 19:18:25 --- unixfool has changed the topic to: Channel Rules: http://slackcon.org/rules | Unofficial Slackware Support Channel - http://tinyurl.com/6aaqt & http://tinyurl.com/4nejl | News from Pat: http://tinyurl.com/4fbet | ChangeLog: http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 | -current: Tue 4 Jan 06:29:13 UTC | " This is my #slackware de-virginization." Jan 14 19:18:29 --- ChanServ removes channel operator status from unixfool Jan 14 19:18:33 <-- frank_endres (~frank@d80-170-140-145.cust.tele2.fr) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 14 19:18:34 AcidChild actually, there's only a couple :-) Jan 14 19:18:38 well. Jan 14 19:18:49 uia Jan 14 19:18:49 --> clingen (~clingen@pool-141-157-9-192.balt.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:18:52 loads if close to a couple :P Jan 14 19:18:52 Zalamander: thanks for that link Jan 14 19:18:57 no problem Jan 14 19:19:12 well. Jan 14 19:19:16 ok. i solved the prob why my (XP) takes a (very) long time to shutdown. Jan 14 19:19:17 ximpul: eermm no. Jan 14 19:19:24 coz its crap? Jan 14 19:19:28 lol Jan 14 19:19:36 rite.. Jan 14 19:19:38 Papyrus: Because it's retarded and trying to release network resources nothing else cares about? Jan 14 19:19:40 now my XP only takes 10 secs to reboot :) Jan 14 19:19:44 need to think this one thu/ Jan 14 19:19:47 AcidChild-> what did it say? Jan 14 19:19:51 err... LESS than 10 secs Jan 14 19:19:52 so there isnt a way for me to get my prerouting trafifc to the forward chain? Jan 14 19:19:53 :) Jan 14 19:19:57 ximpul: how do i find out Jan 14 19:19:59 is there a log? Jan 14 19:20:09 smoke_: Add a _route_ Jan 14 19:20:09 that it made. Jan 14 19:20:15 unixfool : nice work Jan 14 19:20:16 AcidChild-> wait, the machine finished booting? Jan 14 19:20:16 err... nevermind that Jan 14 19:20:22 no ximpul Jan 14 19:20:28 Or stop using the bloody bridging code and just use tcpdump to sniff Jan 14 19:20:41 AcidChild-> ok, heh then what was the last lines before it crapped out Jan 14 19:20:52 kernel pankic Jan 14 19:20:58 somthing somthing.. Jan 14 19:21:05 about "root=" Jan 14 19:21:14 like it didnt know where to go.. Jan 14 19:21:16 or somthing. Jan 14 19:21:33 Oh, I know... you need to do the something to the something... Jan 14 19:21:33 --> teleyag (~teleyag@pcp08125753pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:21:35 Then it will work Jan 14 19:21:44 ... Jan 14 19:22:05 AcidChild-> sounds like the root filesystem is not pointed out properly in lilo Jan 14 19:22:09 --> volkerdi (3321@slackware.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:22:12 rite. Jan 14 19:22:15 ok. Jan 14 19:22:17 <-- musb (~c8b50b3d@musb.user) has left ##slackware Jan 14 19:22:18 hey Jan 14 19:22:24 hey pat Jan 14 19:22:37 well i just copyed the old one and aimed it at /boot/bzImage insted Jan 14 19:22:54 --> lordgoth (evilrabbi@64.123.157.18) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:22:54 volkerdi, how's it going? Jan 14 19:22:58 AcidChild: Dude, /boot/bzimage is generally not your root filesystem. Jan 14 19:23:02 :/ Jan 14 19:23:18 I was here earlier and made a major error regarding my friends at SlackSec, who did write to me about their project (more than once), and let it slip through the cracks. :-( Jan 14 19:23:38 AcidChild: / is your root filesystem. Whatever partition that happens to be on... Jan 14 19:23:48 eermm. Jan 14 19:23:51 O_o Jan 14 19:24:17 slacksec is a good group of people Jan 14 19:24:17 From pat. Jan 14 19:24:25 vector ? Jan 14 19:24:32 the software firewalls of today, on modern hardware, are as robust as hardware versions in my opinion. you will be expending some system resources that could be delegated off to a separate piece of dedicated hardware, but this is negligible most of the time. Jan 14 19:24:35 volkerdi : maybe this will make you laugh : maddox.xmission.com Jan 14 19:24:45 When I realized these were the same folks who put together the card for me, I became very sad. My most humble and sincere apologies are in order... Jan 14 19:24:46 right Jan 14 19:24:52 <-- At0mic_PC` has quit ("Client exciting") Jan 14 19:24:55 bb Jan 14 19:24:56 brb Jan 14 19:24:58 <-- AcidChild has quit ("brb") Jan 14 19:24:59 --> Roa (~rip@201.128.16.141) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:25:03 iorsi : and what do you think runs on those 'hardware' firewalls? :) Jan 14 19:25:11 volkerdi: Howdy, Pat. Jan 14 19:25:24 hey Alan. Jan 14 19:25:30 Ain't no need for apologies. Jan 14 19:25:35 anake, firmwear Jan 14 19:25:39 volkerdi does this mean that you in some approve of the "merger" with GUS spoken of by by SlackSec members? Jan 14 19:25:48 iorsi: Dude, firmware is still software. Jan 14 19:25:49 some way* Jan 14 19:25:50 Well, I should at least have more of a clue. Jan 14 19:25:55 <-- Roa has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 19:25:55 firmwear is not software, Jan 14 19:25:56 --> AcidChild (~ash@dsl-80-41-26-182.access.uk.tiscali.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:25:57 back Jan 14 19:26:03 whoa Jan 14 19:26:03 iorsi : riiight Jan 14 19:26:06 Hi Pat Jan 14 19:26:09 Well way I figure it, a man can get swamped in a time like that. Jan 14 19:26:13 iorsi: the only advantage "firmware" gets is that it's typically non-trivial go rip-roaring around the filesystem changing things Jan 14 19:26:20 that pat v???? Jan 14 19:26:22 anyone know a good easy linux howto? Jan 14 19:26:28 kernel compile one Jan 14 19:26:29 ...and firmware IS software. Jan 14 19:26:30 iorsi : first, it's 'firmware'. and firmware is merely software on rewriteable media. Jan 14 19:26:31 If it's ok with both sides, then I approve too. Jan 14 19:26:31 volkerdi: fyi - i'm now connected from slackware-current recompiled for x86_64 Jan 14 19:26:32 --- debd00d is now known as patfanNO1 Jan 14 19:26:36 for 2.6.* Jan 14 19:26:52 there waz one i got given on here that waz very good. Jan 14 19:26:53 volkerdi-> umm, hi pat Jan 14 19:26:57 fred87, 64-slack completed? Jan 14 19:27:03 thr1ce, very nearly Jan 14 19:27:06 iorsi: As much as you might like to deny it, firmware is just another name for software specifically stored on not-easily-writeable media. Jan 14 19:27:06 w0000t Jan 14 19:27:08 wow Jan 14 19:27:08 should have beta isos by sunday evening Jan 14 19:27:16 fred87: very nice :D Jan 14 19:27:21 fred87: You still wanna put that on our colo? Jan 14 19:27:24 fred87, that is amazing Jan 14 19:27:35 --> foureyes78 (~knoppix@65-102-149-233.tukw.qwest.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:27:39 :D Jan 14 19:27:41 why would someone buy a firewall like sonicwall instead of setting up a cheap machine with ipchains? Jan 14 19:27:42 * AcidChild claps Jan 14 19:27:42 wow Jan 14 19:27:46 volkerdi: I don't think they'll be any complaints. Jan 14 19:27:49 fred87, perfect timing, while the "boss" is here :) Jan 14 19:27:55 Hi again volkerdi Jan 14 19:28:01 Howdy Larhzu. Jan 14 19:28:04 iorsi: because they don't have to set it up? Jan 14 19:28:06 volkerdi: glad you're on the mend! Jan 14 19:28:10 hrm hrm, ##slackware ???? Jan 14 19:28:11 iorsi: alot of people dont know ipchain or anything like that Jan 14 19:28:13 iorsi : first and foremost: ability to blame somebody in case if things break Jan 14 19:28:17 --> fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@bluecow.niesc.k12.in.us) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:28:28 what I really want is first to get my health in order, and then for all these efforts to band together if that's possible under one big Slackware roof. Jan 14 19:28:29 alan_hicks, yah, push onto scarlet is ugly Jan 14 19:28:33 foureyes779, #slackware is reserved in case Pat V. wants to make his own official channel now Jan 14 19:28:34 --> Squall` (~squall`@pcp07745437pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:28:35 iorsi : second, even bigger - support Jan 14 19:28:49 AthlonRob aah, ok Jan 14 19:28:52 heya all Jan 14 19:28:54 hey pat! =) Jan 14 19:28:55 volkerdi hm, I've only heard about it from SlackSec, not GUS. Though SlackSec did apparently get the GUS guys to sign an announcement written by Slacksec, the language barrier leaves me feeling uncertain. Oh well -- my sincere wish is that your long and healthful life makes such issues moot :-) Jan 14 19:29:01 AthlonRob: tnx Jan 14 19:29:07 foureyes779: More info on that in /topic. Jan 14 19:29:09 foureyes779, you're welcome Jan 14 19:29:12 iorsi: In a phrase, "financial culpability". Companies like to pretend their employees are all idiots, so they tend to not buy into anything where they can't get both a support contract, and the name of someone they can sue if things go really really wrong Jan 14 19:29:17 Regarding #slackware, I'm happy to let that go back to being the way it was before. Jan 14 19:29:18 --> roa (~roa@201.128.16.141) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:29:18 is it really advantageous to have a dedicated firewall rather than having a firewall installed on the machine in use? Jan 14 19:29:19 Pat huh? Jan 14 19:29:20 iorsi : third, those fancy firewalls do more than just filter packets based on their source/destination. they can filter based on content Jan 14 19:29:26 no joke? Jan 14 19:29:30 iorsi : of course Jan 14 19:29:34 <-- avoca has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 19:29:42 . Jan 14 19:29:49 volkerdi: lilo would want to phone you for that to happen Jan 14 19:29:49 iorsi : do you want to maintain thousands of individual machines, or do you want to manage ONE single firewall? Jan 14 19:29:53 iorsi: Yes. A firewall ideally should be a standalone box that does nothing but handle the issue of whether or not data should be allowed on/off the network. Jan 14 19:30:00 --> |Alex| (~Alex@vpn-144-18.vpn.uva.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:30:01 fred87: true Jan 14 19:30:02 volkerdi, do you want GUS/SlackSec to keep (or rather, start again) patching 10.0 and older while you focus on current? Jan 14 19:30:10 volkerdi, i supposed you've been asked this a million times, but how is your health? Jan 14 19:30:11 * foureyes779 is witnessing history Jan 14 19:30:18 --> Epidemical (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:30:26 Squall`: its in the topic :o) Jan 14 19:30:36 AthlonRob: that might be a good thing. Things are still iffy for me at the moment. Jan 14 19:30:37 iorsi: You don't want anyone logging into the firewall, becasue the more people that can log in, the more people who could potentially tamper with security policy and audit logs. Jan 14 19:30:39 <-- rubert has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 14 19:30:46 I can't believe this, though Jan 14 19:30:53 volkerdi: We're ready to roll now. Jan 14 19:30:56 <-- TaQ has quit ("gone!") Jan 14 19:30:57 --> diarrhoe (~qSchlange@pD958786F.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:31:00 Not to mention that firewalls tend to be in a good position to sniff out all of a company's intellectual property. Jan 14 19:31:01 seems that way from the halt in current updates =\ Jan 14 19:31:01 volkerdi, thanks for everything you've done ;) Jan 14 19:31:02 volkerdi, okay... guess we'll get back in the saddle Jan 14 19:31:14 this is crazy...i'm frozen to the bone in my own house Jan 14 19:31:22 fred87, go fix our DNS :-) Jan 14 19:31:27 lol :P Jan 14 19:31:27 --> Q-collective (~Q-collect@cp336226-a.gelen1.lb.home.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:31:35 unixfool: that'll teach you not to slap that girl around when she gets out of line Jan 14 19:31:35 it should fix when dns server ttl is out Jan 14 19:31:37 unixfool : same here today. yesterday we had 65F, today it's less than 40F Jan 14 19:31:40 (no idea when that is) Jan 14 19:31:41 ;) Jan 14 19:31:46 Back in the saddle again | Out where a friend is a friend. | Where the longhorn cattle feed on the old gymsom weed. | Back in the saddle again. - Gene Autry. Jan 14 19:31:58 Anyway, part of my problem all these years is that I make my living off Slackware, but just barely eek out out of it. I figured having people volunteer on a project that I make money off would be just a little too guilt-ridden for me. Jan 14 19:31:59 I like to tickle chickens Jan 14 19:32:09 ananke: all this weather happenings make me REALLY think of global warming Jan 14 19:32:10 a dedicated firewall on more powerful hardware, all else equal, is significantly more robust. should not skimp on the hardware for such an imporant task as firewalling! Jan 14 19:32:17 volkerdi: get over yourself! Folks wanna help! :^) Jan 14 19:32:21 volkerdi it's not like we don't get something out of it too Jan 14 19:32:28 Alan_Hicks: I'm starting to realize that. Jan 14 19:32:35 oh what IP should slacksec.org be pointing at? Jan 14 19:32:40 iorsi : uhmm, sounds like you never have used a 'hardware firewall' Jan 14 19:32:41 --> maddler (~maddler@195.110.158.19) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:32:44 iorsi: In your case, I'd advise you call in a consultant Jan 14 19:32:44 <-- Q-collective (~Q-collect@cp336226-a.gelen1.lb.home.nl) has left ##slackware ("later") Jan 14 19:32:45 * unixfool agrees with Alan_Hicks on that one....gotta make a decent living :o) Jan 14 19:32:46 volkerdi, You make a living/money off of it because you started it and it's your job. People volunteer to help keep it around. Companies use volunteers all over the place, and it's cool. If we WANT to volunteer, let us. :-) Jan 14 19:32:47 * Dominian lmao Jan 14 19:32:53 And my offer on /. still stands for equine penicillin shots. ;-) Jan 14 19:33:03 BUT, Slackware by committee is an unruly thing. Jan 14 19:33:14 I've got about 15 laptops around me.. a server inf ront of me.. my head phones on.. head banging to Pantera and all of my co-workers think I'm on crack :) Jan 14 19:33:17 no, just more productive Jan 14 19:33:24 Alan_Hicks: I looked at those, and the 80 guage needle looked a bit frightening. ;-) Jan 14 19:33:26 --- patfanNO1 is now known as debd00d Jan 14 19:33:26 AthlonRob, you are associated with Pat, correct? Jan 14 19:33:28 i want a distro with one man with a big stick, not even oligarchy Jan 14 19:33:30 two 2 ghz xeon processors is good. you need only minimal ram. 256 mb is more than enough. Jan 14 19:33:34 volkerdi: btw any hints as to how quickly (if it all) i'll need to modify SlackSec mailing list scripts to handle 10.1? Jan 14 19:33:35 Squall`, no, not with Pat, with SlackSec Jan 14 19:33:36 Hehehe. Jan 14 19:33:38 Dominian: wtf, 15? Jan 14 19:33:38 oh Jan 14 19:33:44 Dominian: you're lucky then....most people i know can't IRC from work Jan 14 19:33:45 Epidemic1l: special setup Jan 14 19:33:54 unixfool: I'm uhh... the network admin :) Jan 14 19:33:57 hehe Jan 14 19:34:01 fred87: that's all going to depend on my condition. Jan 14 19:34:04 unixfool: They should try harder. Heh Jan 14 19:34:05 --> saxa (~sasa@host245-95.pool217223.interbusiness.it) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:34:05 even our network admins can't Jan 14 19:34:08 --> morphalus (~haunter@APlessis-Bouchard-151-1-29-80.w83-112.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:34:10 you want to make sure you can handle an onslaught of packets at any given time. ddos attacks can be killer. Jan 14 19:34:11 info sec shop here Jan 14 19:34:11 special alright... that must look über :P Jan 14 19:34:11 :o) Jan 14 19:34:13 volkerdi, good luck :) Jan 14 19:34:21 unixfool: well we aren't into security.. we run Windows Jan 14 19:34:23 --> greenshoe (~greenshoe@adsl-68-89-172-65.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:34:23 volkerdi, we hope you have a full and complete recovery Jan 14 19:34:35 oh, and can you sign your autograph? Jan 14 19:34:39 * Squall` pulls out virtual paper Jan 14 19:34:41 volkerdi: We heard through the grapevine there's no support@slackware.com volunteer... Jan 14 19:34:42 iorsi : seriously. give up. we know you're clueless. Jan 14 19:34:57 I'd like to see 10.1 go out fairly soon, with just a couple more bug fixes like a new udev and back up to mdadm-1.8.0, and compiled 2.6.10 kernels (still in /testing). Jan 14 19:35:00 volkerdi-> yeah, get well(er) soon Jan 14 19:35:01 iorsi: DDoS attacks are the exception case. Beyond simple software failure from load, generally you do _not_ plan for DDoS attacks. You just make sure your equipment will still be running when they stop Jan 14 19:35:10 I don't think I could trust patches by SlackSec, myself. Jan 14 19:35:13 volkerdi: with reiser4 support ? ;) Jan 14 19:35:28 <-- AcidChild has quit ("leaving") Jan 14 19:35:32 zalamander, we also upload source + slackbuilds Jan 14 19:35:35 Dominian: heh. If it's not in the vanilla kernel, no. Jan 14 19:35:36 as do GUS Jan 14 19:35:40 but it's your choice Jan 14 19:35:42 bah, reiser4, new kernel, who cares, all we need is Perl Perl Perl! Jan 14 19:35:45 Zalamander: not even if theyre approved ? Jan 14 19:35:47 Well you can't really protect yourself against a DDoS attack Jan 14 19:35:48 we got a call from warner studios yesterday trying to serve us a supeona (did i spell that right?) Jan 14 19:35:49 I had an experience where my poor cable modem was getting attacked by some retard on an OC-48. My provider just kept telling me "Send us an email and well send it to our admins for evaluation". No amount of transfering to counless other drones yielded a single person that could understand if you HAVE NO BANDWIDTH, you CANT SEND ANYONE EMAIL Jan 14 19:35:56 volkerdi: So several people are thinking about banding together and offering to take it in turns. Jan 14 19:35:56 foureyes approved by who? Jan 14 19:35:57 unixfool : subpoena Jan 14 19:35:59 Epidemical: Exactly the reason Jan 14 19:36:05 Pat V Jan 14 19:36:08 --- roa is now known as Roa Jan 14 19:36:16 ananke: ahh...thx...lol Jan 14 19:36:19 2 2 ghz xeon processors is a good defense against dos. ddos can be another matter, yes. Jan 14 19:36:28 volkerdi: hehe Jan 14 19:36:31 volkerdi: I didn't think so. Jan 14 19:36:32 iorsi : no, it's not a good defense Jan 14 19:36:34 someone was supposedly downloading movies on a workstation Jan 14 19:36:34 See, that's part of the deal too. I don't want to see Slackware bloat, and have always had strong (unwritten) ideas about how Slackware should look and feel. Jan 14 19:36:37 hmm can't mtools from a/floppy to compile for amd64 Jan 14 19:36:43 volkerdi: NO biggy though.. Pretty easy to add reiser4 support and install the kernel from chroot environment Jan 14 19:36:44 foureyes they aren't. Pat never looked at them. Jan 14 19:36:46 gentoo and debian can't either Jan 14 19:36:51 * fred87 has a look at what mtools does Jan 14 19:36:51 iorsi: No, no, no. Jan 14 19:36:53 <_Hitek_> -NickServ- The nickname [volkerdi] is not registered <= a bit dangerous, no ? Jan 14 19:37:05 <-- |Alex|_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 19:37:07 _Hitek_: lighten up man Jan 14 19:37:08 _Hitek_ : doesn't matter. what matters is hostmask Jan 14 19:37:22 * Dominian gets some popcorn Jan 14 19:37:28 volkerdi, and I think your "keep it clean" ideal is part of what makes Slackware what it is. Jan 14 19:37:36 iorsi: There is _zero_ point in trying to overpower a DDoS attack if you're connected to the internet. Your company resources will _never_ scale to the degree of stupidity's prevalence on the internet. Jan 14 19:37:36 yes it is Jan 14 19:37:38 Plus, when I have bills that need paying, I wrap things up in about a months time for release and kick one out (though it's more than that... I'll starve for a while if it's just not ready) Jan 14 19:37:39 * MindChild stabs random folks with a sharpened KFC spork Jan 14 19:37:39 * diarrhoe agrees Jan 14 19:37:56 dagmar, dos is different from ddos. Jan 14 19:38:14 iorsi: Gosh I wish they'd have mentioned that in my CISSP prep classes Jan 14 19:38:14 I worry that too many developers would lead to more loose ends than cound be quickly tied up when the time comes. Jan 14 19:38:15 volkerdi: heard rumors about gnome getting removed from the slackware distribution...true? Jan 14 19:38:23 true Jan 14 19:38:23 wow pat is hangin out Jan 14 19:38:30 fred87 I have no trouble with GUS packages. I wouldn't necessarily feel uncertain about *your* packages specifically (your skills seem decent, though your youth is a factor for me) Jan 14 19:38:30 iorsi : seriously. you keep talking about things you barely understand. give up. Jan 14 19:38:31 volkerdi, like redhat? :-P Jan 14 19:38:33 volkerdi: is there anyother way to donate money to you(and slackware)besides just buying a copy of the cd-set? Jan 14 19:38:34 unixfool: Nothing against GNOME, but true. Jan 14 19:38:36 <-- duardo has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 19:38:37 --> sirmaxworld^ibm (~neo@p213.54.93.66.tisdip.tiscali.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:38:51 iorsi: Dude, it doesn't matter if it's one site or twenty or two thousand. Jan 14 19:38:52 I'm not looking for donations. Jan 14 19:38:56 <-- sirmaxworld^ibm (~neo@p213.54.93.66.tisdip.tiscali.de) has left ##slackware ("Leaving") Jan 14 19:39:01 thanks, though Jan 14 19:39:03 volkerdi: Well, you can always have your core group that builds SlackBuild scripts for ya, and then you've got full control. Jan 14 19:39:08 i know.....but, it couldnt hurt Jan 14 19:39:26 hmmmm Jan 14 19:39:28 volkerdi, xfce will still live...? :) i'm addicted to the new 4.2 Jan 14 19:39:30 But hey, if you want to give the guy a donation, cancel your subsciption to 10.1 and pay the full $40 cost for it. ;-) Jan 14 19:39:30 Dagmar: one site lets you block 'em, though Jan 14 19:39:33 volkerdi, what about some sort of license of such? We use Slackware on about 50 servers. I'd love to purchase 50 copies, but I don't need that many books/cd's :-P any alternative to that? Jan 14 19:39:38 is mr. volkerding a millionaire? Jan 14 19:39:42 Yes, GTK and Xfce are not going anywhere. Jan 14 19:39:51 iorsi: no but I am ;) Jan 14 19:39:54 Epidemical: Not really. One site with sufficient bandwidth can stomp someone just fine without support from an upstream provider Jan 14 19:39:55 volkerdi : like, you ask someone to built a package. then you can evaluate it.... Jan 14 19:39:57 that's great news Jan 14 19:40:02 heh, I'm a multi thousand-aire. Jan 14 19:40:09 hehe Jan 14 19:40:11 barely Jan 14 19:40:11 hehe Jan 14 19:40:12 lol Jan 14 19:40:14 I've made thousands.. Jan 14 19:40:16 but Jan 14 19:40:19 im a hundredaire Jan 14 19:40:22 you spent them? Jan 14 19:40:23 * foureyes779 is a dollar-aire Jan 14 19:40:23 my truck, wife, car, daughter take it all Jan 14 19:40:26 volkerding, slackware does not make you money? Jan 14 19:40:29 i'm a pennyaire Jan 14 19:40:32 i'm practically broke, but i got an amd64 :) Jan 14 19:40:37 * unixfool ^5s Dominian Jan 14 19:40:38 same here Jan 14 19:40:45 Dagmar: yeah but you could set it up with a kind of "flood threshold" so it just drops packets from that site after a number of attempts Jan 14 19:40:47 Yeah, an AMD64 and a dual PIII rackmount! Jan 14 19:40:49 hehe fred87 Jan 14 19:40:54 iorsi: Free software typically doesn't have very lucrative residuals Jan 14 19:41:05 volkerdi I undestand that you don't want donations, but a lot of us download our slack, and/or run -current, so buying a subscription leaves us with wasted CDs and plastic cases lying around. It would be nice to be able to send an occasional donation instead. Jan 14 19:41:06 alan_hicks, dual PIII is *yours* isn't it? Jan 14 19:41:07 epid: you could, but your wan connection is still fucked Jan 14 19:41:10 unixfool: hehehe Jan 14 19:41:12 Ours. Jan 14 19:41:14 Epidemic1l, that won't help much, if those packets are still coming at you Jan 14 19:41:18 unixfool: but.. your truck is worth letting money go for Jan 14 19:41:27 ok. Jan 14 19:41:33 Epidemical: Yeah, _you_ can drop them, but let's say you have a T1, and someone's sending crap to you at about twice the rate your T1 can handle... Jan 14 19:41:43 Hm, right, if the site has that much bandwidth of course you're fucked :) Jan 14 19:41:44 Epidemic1l, it's like closing a door when there's flood. sure, the water may not get inside the house, but it's still outside, and your neighbour can't visit you Jan 14 19:41:44 Anyway, I can see the Great Restructuring happening for Slackware 11, but first 10.1 (the last to support a 2.4.x kernel) needs to release so that NPTL and such can come along. Jan 14 19:41:45 Dominian: lol Jan 14 19:41:47 true Jan 14 19:41:50 volkerdi: or a "Voluntary donations for downloads" form Jan 14 19:41:58 --> Elderwin (~Elderwin@linuxb0y.gotadsl.co.uk) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:42:03 NPTL? Jan 14 19:42:04 fred87: I like that idea. Jan 14 19:42:05 fred87: maybe. Jan 14 19:42:06 volkerdi: I'm just curious. Do you ever talk with RMS or see him very often? Jan 14 19:42:08 new posixs threads library Jan 14 19:42:12 Epidemical: At that point it really doesn't matter if you can drop the traffic or not because nothing else is going to be able to get through in a reasonable amount of time Jan 14 19:42:13 oooo...gonna release 2.6 officially then, eh? Jan 14 19:42:13 --> zborgerd (~zborgerd@cpe-024-033-150-184.woh.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:42:14 ah Jan 14 19:42:14 fuzzbawl : native posix thread library or something Jan 14 19:42:15 volkerdi, will will the 2.4 kernel be by default, or just available? Jan 14 19:42:19 greenshoe: I don Jan 14 19:42:22 oops Jan 14 19:42:27 volkerdi, any active thoughts or work toward a 64bit release? or is that something that may happen later on Jan 14 19:42:34 --> AcidChild (~ash@dsl-80-41-26-182.access.uk.tiscali.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:42:36 same proble Jan 14 19:42:38 Dagmar: yeah you're right Jan 14 19:42:40 . Jan 14 19:42:45 --- Kriss is now known as Hoxha Jan 14 19:42:45 sadsfae: fred87's for a good port for 64bit coming along. Jan 14 19:42:47 I don't think I've had contact with RMS in years. He sent in a fix for my Emacs build once. Jan 14 19:42:48 but i writ it down this time :| Jan 14 19:42:49 sadsfae, fred87 is almost finished wtih it :) Jan 14 19:42:51 --> Paul_Best (~Paul_Best@64.6.1.213.outfitters.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:42:53 ahh nice Jan 14 19:42:55 volkerdi, would you be interested in coming to speak at our LUG? =-P Jan 14 19:42:59 lol Jan 14 19:43:01 I'm off now Jan 14 19:43:04 damn Jan 14 19:43:04 heheh Jan 14 19:43:07 solicitation Jan 14 19:43:10 * sadsfae buggers off to check prices on 64bit hardware Jan 14 19:43:15 Okay, I think we're all going to scare poor Pat off now :-) Jan 14 19:43:15 lol Jan 14 19:43:19 I've never seen the channel so hopping Jan 14 19:43:21 sadsfae: i'm not doing gnome at all Jan 14 19:43:22 --> murdara (~murdara@bunuel-cpe-3.nat-pool.bgd.sbb.co.yu) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:43:22 <-- murdara has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 19:43:31 quite simply it's too much of a pain, and i don't like it either :P Jan 14 19:43:32 --> mario^ (~mario@217-151-195.adsl.tele2.no) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:43:34 AthlonRob: It's always like this when I'm in here. :^) Jan 14 19:43:35 unixfool, made me come here Jan 14 19:43:38 fred87, not a big loss for me, but still include gtk+ right? Jan 14 19:43:40 he forced me Jan 14 19:43:49 ooo Pantera time Jan 14 19:43:50 sadsfae: yah Jan 14 19:43:55 yeah, right Jan 14 19:43:57 hehe Jan 14 19:43:58 awesome i cant wait to test it Jan 14 19:44:07 well i need to build this 64box first Jan 14 19:44:09 still lacking some parts Jan 14 19:44:14 haha :) Jan 14 19:44:22 yeah, uh-huh Alan... ;-) Jan 14 19:44:33 --> Murda-ra (~murdara@bunuel-cpe-3.nat-pool.bgd.sbb.co.yu) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:44:43 * Zalamander has been frequenting this channel for many years, but has never seen Alan_Hicks before Jan 14 19:44:45 Man it feels GOOD not to have any work today! Jan 14 19:44:49 volkerdi : what is your box specification ? Jan 14 19:44:50 volkerdi: on my amd64 port, i've made a "non-us" extra package set including things like libdvdcss and lame. do you think that's not a good idea? Jan 14 19:44:57 well, today's log is now annoited....lol Jan 14 19:45:03 fred87, sounds too Debianish Jan 14 19:45:06 HI i`m newbee in Linux, especially slackware AND NEED HELP FAST....can anyone help me ?!?!? On private ?!?!? Jan 14 19:45:11 volkerdi, just want to take the chance to say THANX and GET WELL SOON. too busy in here Jan 14 19:45:13 Murda-ra, what do you need help with? Jan 14 19:45:14 Murda-ra : no, no and no Jan 14 19:45:15 Murda-ra: JFGI. Jan 14 19:45:17 Murda-ra: nope! Jan 14 19:45:19 Murda-ra: Ask in pubchat or not at all Jan 14 19:45:19 Murda-ra, ask here Jan 14 19:45:20 thats a good idea fred87 Jan 14 19:45:21 http://slackbook.lizella.net Jan 14 19:45:23 Murda-ra, A/S/L :P Jan 14 19:45:24 Murda-ra: ask your question HERE Jan 14 19:45:25 thx Jan 14 19:45:29 ok Jan 14 19:45:31 Elderwin: HEHEHE. Jan 14 19:45:33 haha. Jan 14 19:45:36 first my english is poor so... Jan 14 19:45:46 Our country reeks of trees Jan 14 19:45:49 Elderwin wins that flood Jan 14 19:45:50 lol Jan 14 19:45:51 Murda-ra: We put up with poor English. It can't be worse than mine. Jan 14 19:45:51 Murda-ra : so try your best, get to the point and be specific Jan 14 19:45:52 don't worry about it...many type it worse Jan 14 19:45:53 volkerdi, any sort of road map for Slackware? Or an "It's coming in Slack 11" list? Jan 14 19:45:53 our yaks are really large Jan 14 19:45:54 rofl. Jan 14 19:45:54 boxen... hmmm, I have one 1GHz Athlon, another 1.6somethingGHz, and an AMD64 T3000 emachine. Jan 14 19:45:54 :) Jan 14 19:46:00 and they smell like rotten beef carcasses Jan 14 19:46:06 Murda-ra: what do you need help with? Jan 14 19:46:15 Poor English is fine. It's bad personal hygiene we won't tolerate. Jan 14 19:46:18 --> sunbx2 (sdas@81.196.207.23) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:46:26 volkerdi : AWWW ! no Intel ??? Jan 14 19:46:26 * Squall` hasn't showered in 5 years Jan 14 19:46:31 --> w-ber (~w-ber@weed.yok.utu.fi) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:46:31 tmi Jan 14 19:46:32 If we can smell you, there's going to be trouble. Jan 14 19:46:33 Nice set of boxes, volkerdi :-) (as you might have guessed, I'm an Athlon fan myself) Jan 14 19:46:34 lol Jan 14 19:46:41 van i encryp a filesystem with a password for encryption/decryption/mounting/unmounting ?> Jan 14 19:46:42 So its true then? No more official slack gnome? Jan 14 19:46:50 HEY I GOT A GREAT IDEA! Lets stop asking Patrick stupid little things about slackware before he goes postal and starts chewing the belly-buttons off of old maids Jan 14 19:46:51 Yeah, I'm on a 450MHz PIII right now :-) Jan 14 19:46:59 Paul_Best: looks like it Jan 14 19:47:07 * unixfool hardly uses gnome anyways Jan 14 19:47:08 volkerdi : LOL ! i am on P3 616 MHz Right Now ! Jan 14 19:47:08 Paul_Best: it's sad but it's true Jan 14 19:47:10 volkerdi: you been doing anything for amd64? Jan 14 19:47:11 <-- Epidemic1l has quit (No route to host) Jan 14 19:47:13 volkerdi: once again it was a pleasure to speak with you, but I must get these laptops done Jan 14 19:47:16 * Dominian goes idle! Jan 14 19:47:22 800MHZ G4 here.... Jan 14 19:47:23 any chance of getting dropline-installer in /extra? Jan 14 19:47:23 i do use gnome tools from time to time, but oh well Jan 14 19:47:24 c ya dom Jan 14 19:47:25 --> |Alex|_ (~Alex@a61153.upc-a.chello.nl) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:47:30 MindChild, these aren't stupid questions, he is taking the time to come here, recognize this channel, and talk to the users Jan 14 19:47:37 and i thank him for that Jan 14 19:47:41 OK, regarding GNOME. It's nothing against it, but I want to keep Slackware small, and choose best of breed. Everyone else tries to include everything. Jan 14 19:47:41 1600 Pentium M 725 here :) Jan 14 19:47:47 fred87, mind if I p/m you re: slamd64? Jan 14 19:47:51 nah Jan 14 19:47:55 volkerdi: Dump GNOME and move on. ;-) Jan 14 19:47:55 would like a better laptop-support :) Jan 14 19:47:58 VFS: cannot open root device "3,0" or unknownblock (3,1) Jan 14 19:47:59 please append correct "root=" boot Jan 14 19:47:59 kerel panic not syscing VFS: unable to mount root FS : unknown-block(3,1) Jan 14 19:48:03 <-- jmichaeljm has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 19:48:05 volkerdi, will it fit on 1 CD now? Jan 14 19:48:05 Consider, for example, how GNOME causes inappropriate menu items to show up on KDE. Jan 14 19:48:05 i got that at start Jan 14 19:48:13 on the new kernel that will not boot Jan 14 19:48:18 any ideas Jan 14 19:48:19 * fred87 is biased as a kde developer: drop gnome :P Jan 14 19:48:23 I'm all for dumping GNOME or goins back to 1.4! Jan 14 19:48:24 bah Jan 14 19:48:24 lol Jan 14 19:48:24 AcidChild, did you enable support for vfs? Jan 14 19:48:27 three_11: no, KDE will still require a disc 2. Jan 14 19:48:27 --> bobert (~steve@adsl-65-69-89-17.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:48:27 AcidChild that often happens if you forget to include support in your kernel for your root filesystem type Jan 14 19:48:28 volkerdi : ever consider XFCE to replace GNOME. since both use GTK Jan 14 19:48:29 drop X :) Jan 14 19:48:29 I saw gnome and had to comment... hehe Jan 14 19:48:35 AcidChild-> its what i was saying before. Jan 14 19:48:40 AcidChild : did you compile that kernel yourself? sounds like you forgot to compile support for your root filesystem Jan 14 19:48:42 s/goins/going/ Jan 14 19:48:44 * w-ber votes for XFCE too Jan 14 19:48:44 yes. Jan 14 19:48:46 GTK and Xfce are not going away. Jan 14 19:48:49 Grrr Jan 14 19:48:50 damn! Jan 14 19:48:53 xfce is nice Jan 14 19:48:54 --> heviarti (heviarti@predator.bigskytel.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:48:56 thx guys Jan 14 19:48:57 so is flux Jan 14 19:48:58 As long as we have framebuffer... Jan 14 19:48:59 yeah, the new XFCE 4.2 is getting very nice Jan 14 19:49:01 fluxrules Jan 14 19:49:04 I use flux on my P166 when I need X Jan 14 19:49:06 and flux is up to what, .9.11? Jan 14 19:49:06 bah on flux Jan 14 19:49:07 --> ang (~ang@mail.cognitronics.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:49:08 yesm xfce, im on it now :) Jan 14 19:49:12 0.9.11 on flux Jan 14 19:49:17 They say it's "development" Jan 14 19:49:19 but its stable Jan 14 19:49:23 volkerdi : i love TWM :) Jan 14 19:49:24 very stable Jan 14 19:49:24 btw, volkerdi, your fvwm config is AWESOME Jan 14 19:49:28 i love it so much Jan 14 19:49:29 I don't see how you go from 0.1.4 to 0.9.11 but whateva Jan 14 19:49:33 can i encryp a filesystem with a password for encryption/decryption/mounting/unmounting ?> Jan 14 19:49:34 slackware used to have a wonderful forum. Jan 14 19:49:34 lol Jan 14 19:49:35 volkerdi : i love TWM :) . Plays Doom3 there :) Jan 14 19:49:39 i would like to see that return. Jan 14 19:49:47 well, xfce 4.2 is almost done- the last RC i think Jan 14 19:49:49 dominian: i actually had problems with 0.9.11 and slackware 10 Jan 14 19:49:56 iorsi: 'Till the trolls crawled all over it. Now they're in alt.os.linux.slackware but we ignore 'em. Jan 14 19:49:57 it would randomly crash.. not sure why Jan 14 19:49:57 meta-ridley: not I said the fly Jan 14 19:49:57 iorsi, i would like to see the mcrib come back form mcdonalds Jan 14 19:49:59 iorsi: you've the resources to create that? Jan 14 19:50:06 I compiled fluxbox 0.9.11 from source then built a slackpack Jan 14 19:50:10 is mozilla going to be dropped for firefox/thunderbird combo ? Jan 14 19:50:11 someone else here had the same prob.. can't remember who it was though Jan 14 19:50:12 meta-ridley, you're not using ATI drivers with xorg 6.8, are you? Jan 14 19:50:13 man i really wished i understood what you lot talk about, rather than it just being pages of geekness that is away above my head :/ Jan 14 19:50:17 meta-ridley: I can upload it for you somewhere if you want Jan 14 19:50:18 iorsi: trolls killed the forum and made me realize I'm not in the online forum business. Jan 14 19:50:25 dagmar please stop answerin iorsi Jan 14 19:50:30 Elderwin: this is freenode...get used to it :o) Jan 14 19:50:40 --> orlan (~ruut@ellon.ipv6.slackware-germany.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:50:42 meta-ridley: although, I think I left out the fluxbox.xinitrc in my package.. hmmm Jan 14 19:50:42 hehehe Jan 14 19:50:43 volkerdi : why not using irc-based ? Jan 14 19:50:45 * Dominian may have to rebuild it Jan 14 19:50:50 Elderwin: don't worry, you'll soon understand :) Jan 14 19:50:53 volkerdi: You ever get any trouble for that troll that posted Windows XP Pro keys on the old forum? Jan 14 19:50:56 idle again Jan 14 19:51:02 no Jan 14 19:51:05 volkerdi, imo, kde is a step in the wrong direction. gnome keeps the intrigue and feeling that attracted us to linux in the first place. Jan 14 19:51:10 Good. Wanted ta whip his ass. Jan 14 19:51:17 iorsi: oh well. Jan 14 19:51:17 dominian: yessss.. can it be done? Jan 14 19:51:19 <_Hitek_> I'd like to see icewm in slackware, it's pretty cool, see http://perso.numericable.fr/%7Ehitek/roxnuv.png for example Jan 14 19:51:23 i think my netbsd box has anon ftp setup.. one sec Jan 14 19:51:25 i like kde...iits all id ever use Jan 14 19:51:25 Actually, I could probably argue that Gnome's menu items showing up under KDE are probably KDE's fault, but since I don't use KDE I can't be certain of that. Jan 14 19:51:25 meta-ridley: can what be done? Jan 14 19:51:26 no; kde is so much more developed and mature than gnome Jan 14 19:51:27 i like that answer Jan 14 19:51:28 lol Jan 14 19:51:34 * Larhzu likes KDE a lot Jan 14 19:51:35 iorsi, gnome is horrible, and it's terribly developed Jan 14 19:51:43 * unixfool isn't a true fan of any de/wm Jan 14 19:51:50 unixfool: you like xpde Jan 14 19:51:51 iorsi: intrigue as in "gotta go through the equivilant of the Windows registry to change anything at all"? Jan 14 19:51:52 hehe Jan 14 19:51:55 flux is so customizable, i love it Jan 14 19:51:56 I dislike both KDE and GNOME, but understand either one of them should be bundled for novice users... Jan 14 19:51:57 unixfool, then try out Pat's fvwm :) Jan 14 19:51:59 I think KDE is far, far superior. GNOME just keeps breaking over and over. Look what happened with the new GTK 2.6 -- broke all kinds of stuff in GNOME. Jan 14 19:52:08 blackbox baby Jan 14 19:52:09 Alan_Hicks: Care to do something more productive than bashing? Jan 14 19:52:11 gnome is also a pita to build Jan 14 19:52:13 What Linux really needs is a DOS shell. One that will run .bat files Jan 14 19:52:14 i liek customizing EVERYTHING in fluxbox in only 2 text files :) Jan 14 19:52:15 Agreed. GNOME dev's got their heads up their tails. Jan 14 19:52:15 volkerdi, aint that the truth Jan 14 19:52:16 volkerdi: you will include the gnome libs or no? Jan 14 19:52:22 i usually rotate through a selection of decent ones in a given year Jan 14 19:52:22 i like KDE because of his KONSOLE Jan 14 19:52:24 twm Jan 14 19:52:25 Hey, Alan Hicks is a _great_ guy. Jan 14 19:52:26 w-ber : i've been using linux for a decade. i manage tons of servers and workstations. yet i use kde. am i a novice? :) Jan 14 19:52:29 you'd think for stright C, gnome would be cleaner to build Jan 14 19:52:30 I agree with KDE being more mature and developed. Jan 14 19:52:37 volkerdi: i aggree (not that you care)) =) Jan 14 19:52:39 Dagmar: Fair enough. I'll quit the bashin'. Jan 14 19:52:39 *straight Jan 14 19:52:41 well, the people who find gnome appealing are better off with enlightenment anyway. Jan 14 19:52:46 ananke: no, but I didn't say others than novices couldn't use KDE :) Jan 14 19:52:51 <_erik> works fine here, always has. easy to build, lighter on resources than kde for sure Jan 14 19:52:56 is there a way to name each screen when using screen Jan 14 19:52:59 my problem is KDE is way to much like XP Jan 14 19:53:04 Yeah, y'all listen to pat, that Alan guy knows what he's talkin' bout. :^) Jan 14 19:53:04 Comparing something that actually does what it's supposed to to a Microsoft product that isn't doing what it's supposed to is not something I can construe as productive. Jan 14 19:53:05 Elderwin, no it isn't Jan 14 19:53:07 ananke, heh, many windows users say the same thing... Jan 14 19:53:08 <-- no_matter has quit (Operation timed out) Jan 14 19:53:09 makes me angry to look at it Jan 14 19:53:10 you guys are trying to steal my job Jan 14 19:53:12 yeah Jan 14 19:53:17 let me admin ... you just chat Jan 14 19:53:20 so that when i reattach a screen i don't have to use the tty/pid Jan 14 19:53:20 --> dtony (1001@lns-vlq-42-lil-82-252-76-227.adsl.proxad.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:53:21 ananke: it's just that if there are only window managers which feel "hard to use" or "spartan", the novices might be too scared to use Slackware Jan 14 19:53:28 squall`: writing something which intuition says should be OOP in a non-oop language leads to non-cleanliness Jan 14 19:53:29 bubba_ : say what? that they've been using linux for a long time? :) Jan 14 19:53:34 i know Jan 14 19:53:37 w-ber: give them slax then let them play with that Jan 14 19:53:37 GNOME is not easy to build into packages, lacks decent documentation to build, and requires many undocumented system changes for things to work 100% (now I'm gonna get it ;-) Jan 14 19:53:41 --> dodo_ (~dodo@ANice-205-1-39-31.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:53:42 volkerdi, mind writing ATI drivers that actually work? Jan 14 19:53:43 w-ber, enlightenment is wonderful for new users. Jan 14 19:53:47 gtk has the most terrible psuedo OO Jan 14 19:53:48 hehe Jan 14 19:53:50 ananke, w-ber - I agree with both of you... KDE's easy enough to have a pretty shallow learning curve (for novices), but it does absolutely everything I've ever needed it to do Jan 14 19:53:52 too bad you couldnt customize a "lean-mean" build of KDE just for Slack... Jan 14 19:53:57 w-ber : yep. kde makes it very easy for my windows developers to use linux Jan 14 19:54:00 ananke, no, theyve used windows for 10 years or whatever, they are real computer experts... Jan 14 19:54:05 they are so obsessed with OO, why don't the just make it in C++ instead of all this C callback grap Jan 14 19:54:08 *crap Jan 14 19:54:18 Anyone that complains about GNOME being dropped needs to try to package GNOME themselves. Jan 14 19:54:20 volkerdi: Nope. That's pretty much all true. Jan 14 19:54:21 it makes them feel comfortable comming from windows :P Jan 14 19:54:23 drivers are dependent upon the video card manufacturers, no? Jan 14 19:54:26 I say this and I *use* gnome Jan 14 19:54:26 I've done it and I won't make that mistake again. Jan 14 19:54:27 Alan_Hicks: amen Jan 14 19:54:27 Squall`, probably for portability Jan 14 19:54:27 winapi has way too many callback functions Jan 14 19:54:28 been fun Jan 14 19:54:33 * unixfool agrees with Alan_Hicks on that one Jan 14 19:54:34 unixfool, yes; only joking Jan 14 19:54:35 but i have evil plots to hatch Jan 14 19:54:36 Alan_Hicks: Its what I'm up to these days. Jan 14 19:54:40 thr1ce: ahh...wasn't sure Jan 14 19:54:40 bubba_ : uhmm, and? Jan 14 19:54:42 Good luck! Jan 14 19:54:43 Alan_Hicks, haha, yeah, anyone who wants Pat to build it, hasn't ever tried building it themself Jan 14 19:54:45 Alan_Hicks: that's what we're doing now ;) Jan 14 19:54:46 Gnome is nearly impossible to install by itself, let alone package Jan 14 19:54:53 <-- Elderwin has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 19:54:57 Squall`, and for back-compatibility, for that matter Jan 14 19:54:57 sandman1 builds gnome packs too Jan 14 19:55:07 from what i understand, its an INVOLVED process Jan 14 19:55:10 yeah, gnome is completely backwards incompatible Jan 14 19:55:11 unixfool, are you sure...? he builds KDE Jan 14 19:55:14 And man... I hated GNOME in 8.0 when it was all in /opt! Updating Galeon was a complete pain. Jan 14 19:55:15 personally, though, I'd like to see only XFCE in Slackware and drop both KDE and GNOME, but that's just me ;) Jan 14 19:55:16 volkerdi: Frankly I don't fault you for wanting to drop it for those reasons, and I was suprised Todd K managed to keep his head from exploding for as long as he did Jan 14 19:55:23 i know for a fact that he's doing gnome ones Jan 14 19:55:23 ananke, what im saying is using a computer for a long time doesnt make a person an expert or anything necessarily. windows and mac users are a good example of that. Jan 14 19:55:26 dunno about kde Jan 14 19:55:30 the transition to 2 wrecked all the 1.0 apps Jan 14 19:55:37 unixfool, he's doing KDE. I host his FTP stuff and all I can see are KDE Jan 14 19:55:40 unixfool, he's done KDE 3 or 4 times now Jan 14 19:55:46 volkerdi : any release date for slack 10.1 ?? Jan 14 19:55:51 unixfool, he did kde 3.4 alpha last :) Jan 14 19:55:54 Anyway, I do not want to be involved in a GNOME/KDE flame war, but look at the KDE build scripts and GNOME build scripts in Slackware, and the problem begins to become clear. Jan 14 19:55:55 nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight. Jan 14 19:56:01 bubba_, No, but having extensive experience managing large numbers of servers *is* a good indicator of expertise Jan 14 19:56:03 Papyrus: yes, Halloween 2004. Jan 14 19:56:05 Papyrus: when its done =P Jan 14 19:56:08 lol Jan 14 19:56:10 volkerdi, amen! Jan 14 19:56:11 --> guigui (~windsurf@ALille-151-1-44-35.w83-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:56:13 lol Jan 14 19:56:14 Papyrus: 4/1/2005 Jan 14 19:56:16 dUc0N, sure... Jan 14 19:56:19 --> pouik (~linuce@AMarseille-151-1-79-119.w83-197.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:56:20 when duke nukem forever comes out, slack 10.1 will come out :-D Jan 14 19:56:29 * fred87 has been going through -current replacing all COMPILE's and .build's with .SlackBuilds Jan 14 19:56:32 bubba_ : i think you missed the first part, where i mention that i manage tons of servers and workstations. and yes, using something for a long time gives you the 'expertise' in that. that's the definition of 'expertise' Jan 14 19:56:33 --> Motoko-chan (~Aoyama@silo.phdcomputing.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:56:33 volkerdi: however, thanks for you work Jan 14 19:56:34 bubba_, well, that was the other thing that was said... ease up a bit, man =-P Jan 14 19:56:36 <-- diarrhoe has quit ("Lost terminal") Jan 14 19:56:37 yes... 10.1 is out BEFORE 11, right ? Jan 14 19:56:42 Papyrus, um... yeah Jan 14 19:56:43 i'll use whatever slackware comes with at this point, since i've been a longtime user Jan 14 19:56:49 <-- Murda-ra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 19:56:51 whatever i need, i'll build myself Jan 14 19:56:54 Papyrus : nope, we're doing it backwards this year :) Jan 14 19:56:54 unixfool: thanks Jan 14 19:56:54 Pat, waht is with the alpha port of slackware, why not continue? Jan 14 19:56:55 I've gotta see who's closest at the moment int eh Slackware Release Fun and Games thread from back in October. Jan 14 19:56:57 volkerdi: oh btw where you branch CFLAGS based on $ARCH, -march=x86_64 doesn't work, creates compiler errors Jan 14 19:56:58 d4ever,,,,heh Jan 14 19:57:13 i ond't use kde or gnome so I could not care less :) Jan 14 19:57:15 ananke, you should meet some of the winners in this town... Jan 14 19:57:18 * foureyes78 has used Slackware almost a year now... Jan 14 19:57:20 --> nirrr (nir@bzq-239-11.red.bezeqint.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:57:22 ang, what do you use? Jan 14 19:57:30 dUc0N: blackbox Jan 14 19:57:32 Ive since moved away from slackware. It just doesnt fit my needs anymroe Jan 14 19:57:34 volkerdi: no, thank YOU for making slackware the way it is :o) Jan 14 19:57:37 ahh Jan 14 19:57:43 * unixfool has MAJOR respect for distro builders Jan 14 19:57:43 volkerdi : will new slackware release based on i686 or still on i486 ??? Jan 14 19:57:43 I've not tried that one Jan 14 19:57:48 anyway thanks for everything :D Jan 14 19:57:57 <-- ezrafree has quit ("[A] that love means death I realized too soon ...") Jan 14 19:58:02 orlan: If someone wants to bring back an Alpha port, have at it. I don't have time, and would devote any spare time to an AMD64 port since that's the current future of 64 bit, and runs circles around the old Alphas. Jan 14 19:58:03 MindChild, nice, did you come all the way here just to say that? Jan 14 19:58:10 lo all :) Jan 14 19:58:15 volkerdi, do you know what happened to logan? Jan 14 19:58:17 * Larhzu hopes Slackware support at least i586 if not i486. Jan 14 19:58:23 * foureyes78 whipsers "slackintosh" Jan 14 19:58:23 --> ezrafree (ezra@ezrafree.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 19:58:24 volkerdi: You need to get together with fred87 on AMD64. Jan 14 19:58:38 Larhzu : uhmm, slackware 'supports' i686 Jan 14 19:58:49 This is getting out of hand. Is there some form of parlimentary proceedure followed here, like in lodge? ;-) Jan 14 19:58:55 <-- |Alex| has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 14 19:58:55 brb...i need to warm my hands up before one of the digits break off Jan 14 19:58:56 hehehe Jan 14 19:59:01 foureyes7someone is working on reviving "slackintosh" Jan 14 19:59:02 volkerdi: any chance of getting the dropline-installer into /extra? Jan 14 19:59:02 lol Jan 14 19:59:07 ananke: Yes, I mean I want to run it on an i586 too. My irssi is currently running on a P133. Jan 14 19:59:09 volkerdi: Yeah, you ignore people you don't want to answer. :^) Jan 14 19:59:11 no dorpline Jan 14 19:59:12 yeah, tell unixfool to start smacking people around :) Jan 14 19:59:12 Marverick: no. Jan 14 19:59:12 at all Jan 14 19:59:12 ang: really, URL ? Jan 14 19:59:14 <-- Roa has quit ("al work") Jan 14 19:59:20 volkerdi, hehe, it is ok if i bring it back and rename it to AlphaSlack? Jan 14 19:59:31 Larhzu : simply install slackware. it runs on i586. Jan 14 19:59:51 volkerdi: IRC has many times been likened to a touch typing class for the aggressively hyperactive. Jan 14 20:00:06 hehehe Jan 14 20:00:06 volkerdi: just set +m and voice only one other people at a time :) Jan 14 20:00:07 Dagmar: you say that like it's a bad thing Jan 14 20:00:11 ang: really, URL ? Jan 14 20:00:12 orlan: since you asked, sure. Have at it. Jan 14 20:00:18 ananke: I know. :-) But I hope it will be compiled with -march=i486 or i586, not -march=i686. Jan 14 20:00:22 irc makes your testoteron goes high Jan 14 20:00:32 Dominian must like being touched by strangers Jan 14 20:00:33 lol Jan 14 20:00:35 Dominian: 135wpm and climbing. You don't want to know what my reading speed is Jan 14 20:00:46 foureyes78: http://www.ayden.org/linux/slackintosh/changelog.shtml Jan 14 20:00:46 --> br (br@tombstone.1337.sk) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:00:49 bubba_: No. I still maintain like 100 slackware machines. I just dont install it anymroe Jan 14 20:00:51 <-- dUc0N has quit ("Dropping out of X to update video drivers") Jan 14 20:00:53 --> rombeh (director@202.152.27.114) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:00:54 w-ber, only + and @ can set chan modes if I recal Jan 14 20:01:05 Motoko-chan: I know... Jan 14 20:01:15 lol Jan 14 20:01:19 Dagmar: I really have no idea nor care what your reading speed is... I read at a snails pace Jan 14 20:01:20 Motoko-chan: uh, +? Is that Freenode specific? Jan 14 20:01:24 w-ber, no Jan 14 20:01:28 unixfool: Only when you bring that truck of yours Jan 14 20:01:29 Motoko-chan : you're a love hina fan ? Jan 14 20:01:34 --> solsTiCe (~solsTiCe@d213-103-37-115.cust.tele2.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:01:38 Not +, %, if freenode supports hop Jan 14 20:01:39 orlan: troet Jan 14 20:01:44 + is voiced... Jan 14 20:01:50 ang, troet! Jan 14 20:01:50 Papyrus, yes Jan 14 20:01:50 i don't think freenode does support hop Jan 14 20:01:59 you can touch my truck when you can pry this gun from my cold dead hands :oP Jan 14 20:02:05 * Motoko-chan is not on FN enough to know Jan 14 20:02:08 ang, Pat say it is ok for my AlphaSlack Jan 14 20:02:37 I really should try out Splack one day Jan 14 20:02:46 ang: tnx Jan 14 20:02:47 orlan: heh, I saw :) now write a new installer ;) Jan 14 20:02:52 orlan, once I get it working on my old machine, I'll be happy to help with what time I can spare. Jan 14 20:02:54 now, all that needs to happen is for best buy and circuit city to carry slackware again Jan 14 20:02:56 foureyes78: no prob Jan 14 20:02:57 got a little problem. many time i type logout in my ssh client putty from the serevr the screen freezes. anybody knows this issue ? Jan 14 20:03:06 all help is welcome Jan 14 20:03:07 There is essentially _no_ difference in speed between -march=i686, and -march=i486 -mcpu=i686 (which Slackware uses). Run benchmarks and you'll see. By going -march=i686 all you're doing is preventing people with old machine from running the software. Jan 14 20:03:10 would really like to have Slack on the Mac.... Jan 14 20:03:13 volkerdi: One question I DO have. I have been trying to find a port of slackware for the sparc platform forever. No mirror has it anymore, and the old maintainer simply doesnt reply to any email I send Jan 14 20:03:24 Is there anyplace you know I can dig it up? Jan 14 20:03:32 MindChild: www.splack.org Jan 14 20:03:42 MindChild: It's not online anywhere, but is sitting on my drive here. Jan 14 20:03:45 ang: its broke Jan 14 20:03:45 MindChild: Splackware. Jan 14 20:03:46 Pat, but your installer of Slackware for Alpha 7.2.0 is really evil Jan 14 20:03:55 MindChild: works fine here Jan 14 20:04:05 aha...network issue Jan 14 20:04:08 orlan: not _my_ installer. :) Jan 14 20:04:15 sunbx-> your whole screen freezes or just putty? Jan 14 20:04:18 Pa^2 Packeteer Papyrus Paul_Best Jan 14 20:04:19 orlan: chris lumens i think wrote the old installer Jan 14 20:04:26 volkerdi: will be dropline-installer in /extra ? Jan 14 20:04:28 ang: worked here also Jan 14 20:04:29 volkerdi: Is there anyway you could put it somewhere? I would really like to have a copy Jan 14 20:04:30 MindChild, they are working on stabilizing splack Jan 14 20:04:31 oh, sorry, Pat, my fault :) Jan 14 20:04:38 np Jan 14 20:04:39 ximpul: putty. is not fro my pc as i log from different places and i got the same problem Jan 14 20:04:42 saxa: lol....he's dropping gnome Jan 14 20:04:45 i'd say no Jan 14 20:04:56 Motoko-chan: I know they are, but to be quite honest, I dont have much faith in that team. Jan 14 20:05:06 --> rokvel (rokvel@chello217023255190.chello.sk) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:05:09 GNOME heads: there's this thing called Ubuntu... Jan 14 20:05:11 unixfool: that does not mean that you will not be able to run gnome anymore Jan 14 20:05:12 saxa: i believe he said no earlier to that question Jan 14 20:05:17 lol! Jan 14 20:05:23 <-- DuRaZNo has quit ("Abandonando") Jan 14 20:05:28 i had a copy of ubuntu Jan 14 20:05:29 dropline modify to much a aslackware system (i don't even talk about the pam package being installed with dropline) Jan 14 20:05:30 it might be EASY ENOUGH for you, too. Jan 14 20:05:40 if you get rid of gnome will it all fit on 1 cd again ;-) Jan 14 20:05:42 owned. Jan 14 20:05:47 guy i work with was giving out copies for some reason Jan 14 20:05:52 saxa: if the gnome packs weren't included, i'd say yeah, you won't be able to run gnome anymore Jan 14 20:05:58 ang: no, beacuse kde is on the 2nd...as he said before >:) Jan 14 20:05:58 pouik: Why? Because you don't know what they do? Jan 14 20:06:01 ang : judging from the size of kde/ nope Jan 14 20:06:05 dropline might do something to make your slack "less" slack, but ubuntu is still debian, and was not acceptable at all Jan 14 20:06:07 bummer :) Jan 14 20:06:09 ang: Speaking from personal experience (just made a -current cd), it won't all fit. Jan 14 20:06:10 volkerdi, are you goign to throw in any other lighter wm's, like E or icewm ? Jan 14 20:06:12 i ended up smashing it and throwing it in the garbage :) Jan 14 20:06:19 Alan_Hicks: k Jan 14 20:06:20 unixfool: dropline works just fine Jan 14 20:06:22 sunbx-> what about if you type 'exit' Jan 14 20:06:22 <-- epic has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 20:06:24 unixfool: not by default Jan 14 20:06:29 I do not want to add E back. Jan 14 20:06:36 unixfool: but you can always compile it Jan 14 20:06:37 mario^: scroll up and read the conversation as a whole Jan 14 20:06:38 Having kde and gnome on a second cd is fine if you don't use them Jan 14 20:06:40 Hey, and remember, guys... even if Pat V. isn't making GNOME... Dropline still will be, won't they? Jan 14 20:06:42 meta-ridley: its because on there webpage they will send you all the copies you want for free Jan 14 20:06:43 Wonder when E17 will be released? Jan 14 20:06:46 DagaZ: because like many people, i don't want to deal with pam Jan 14 20:06:53 AthlonRob: You can count on that Jan 14 20:06:56 Alan_Hicks : right around the time duke nukem forever will be out Jan 14 20:07:04 :D Jan 14 20:07:11 saxa: yes...that's what i'm talking about, but why would pat build a dropline installer if his intent is to not include gnome in the first place? Jan 14 20:07:11 I heard they were bundling E17 and DNF Jan 14 20:07:13 i tried dropline once. I didn't like that it wasn't just gnome, but that it replaced X with it's own version. that'd irked me Jan 14 20:07:16 --> stanojr (stanojr@1337.sk) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:07:17 debd00d: ah.. i think i'll send 1000 of them to somebody i don't like :) Jan 14 20:07:22 ananke: And GNU/HURD becomes popular. Jan 14 20:07:22 AthlonRob: we're not giving up that easy ;) Jan 14 20:07:25 i wonder how big the irc log for this day only :/ Jan 14 20:07:29 ang : yeah, dropline replaces a lot of things. Jan 14 20:07:31 Dropline adds PAM, doesn't it? Jan 14 20:07:33 ang: There's a reason for that if you want to know it. Most people don't seem to care that much Jan 14 20:07:34 yep Jan 14 20:07:36 I wonder of DNF will run on HURD. Jan 14 20:07:37 --> Murda-ra (1000@bunuel-cpe-4.nat-pool.bgd.sbb.co.yu) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:07:38 Yeah, anyone got a log? I'd live one. Jan 14 20:07:39 unixfool: its not needed to build it Jan 14 20:07:39 volkerdi: yes Jan 14 20:07:40 volkerdi: yes, it does Jan 14 20:07:46 volkerdi: Yeah. It's for the console ownership helper mainly Jan 14 20:07:48 * fred87 gives up compiling mtools for x86_64... Jan 14 20:07:48 <_erik> Alan_Hicks cvs works and there are dozens of comits daily, shouldn't be long. EFL is completly usable Jan 14 20:07:53 volkerdi: do you like TWM? ;) Jan 14 20:07:55 unixfool: its already done Jan 14 20:07:56 Oh wow, I didn't realize Dropline was getting so.. nuts. :-) Jan 14 20:08:03 saxa: Jan 14 20:08:05 what does mtools from a/floppy/ actually do? Jan 14 20:08:06 unixfool: its only an option for some users Jan 14 20:08:07 Alan_Hicks, of this convo? Jan 14 20:08:11 AthlonRob: i did Jan 14 20:08:13 haha Jan 14 20:08:13 unixfool: its /extra Jan 14 20:08:23 dropline-gnome is an abomination of Pat's creation Jan 14 20:08:24 fred87, it lets you write and read from unmounted DOS floppies, AFAIK Jan 14 20:08:26 saxa: it won't be soon, prolly :o) Jan 14 20:08:29 When in X, I use KDE. Right now I am, as 97% of the time, on a console. Jan 14 20:08:31 volkerdi: pam and other useless stuff which replace slackware packages an make your slack less slack than debian :) Jan 14 20:08:32 imho dropline should fork into its own distro. the size of dropline constitutes that Jan 14 20:08:33 AthlonRob: No, nuts is trying to keep a multiuser system protected against silly games with the sound card. :/ Jan 14 20:08:38 fuzzbawl: Yeah. Jan 14 20:08:45 ananke: hahahah! Jan 14 20:08:49 drop-line also has a different philosophy Jan 14 20:09:08 I loath dropline. Jan 14 20:09:09 yeah, I belive it's "one tool for the job" Jan 14 20:09:11 unixfool : try the installer, and have it just download dropline. you'll see what i'm talking about Jan 14 20:09:17 * fred87 wonders if anyone will complain if he doesn't include mtools in floppy*.tgz Jan 14 20:09:21 Well, if Pat drops GNOME, I'm sure some other group will come up with a reasonable replacement Jan 14 20:09:25 fred87, you'll hurt on the inside Jan 14 20:09:26 i'll pass on that one and take your word for it Jan 14 20:09:28 volkerdi: Have you ever had the chance of meeting 'mogi' in #slackware on EFnet? Jan 14 20:09:29 <_erik> dropline gnome and slackware's gnome are both really poor representations of gnome. this flame war is really sad. Jan 14 20:09:33 ananke: Now is mybe not the best time for that. Hehe. I'm still banging away on a new installer. Jan 14 20:09:33 Any "desktop environment" that replaces my X server isn't allowed. Jan 14 20:09:39 <_erik> AthlonRob some of us already have Jan 14 20:09:41 <-- Papyrus has quit () Jan 14 20:09:49 AthlonRob: there is dropline-gnome Jan 14 20:09:55 --> octalpussy (~octalpuss@cs6711231-182.satx.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:09:56 getting some good laughs here Jan 14 20:09:58 Dagmar: one issue with audio protection (and this was a security bug from WAY back) was the idea that people might spy on a room using a computer mic simply by having a user account on any box. Jan 14 20:10:02 saxa, yeah, but apparently dropline does funky things like PAM :-) Jan 14 20:10:06 Alan_Hicks: Then separate your X server into discrete freetype, fontconfig, and X packages. Jan 14 20:10:09 dagmar: did you create dropline or something? Jan 14 20:10:10 and evolution Jan 14 20:10:13 <-- octalpussy (~octalpuss@cs6711231-182.satx.rr.com) has left ##slackware ("Tiocfaidh ar Lá - sinnfein.ie") Jan 14 20:10:14 hi room sorry for OOT, I run iptraf on my slack router, and I see this continous traffic: UDP (95 bytes) from 192.168.0.24:162 to 255.255.255.255:162 (src HWaddr 00301a096455) on eth1, can you tell me what's that (eth1 is my internet interface) Jan 14 20:10:15 hmm somehow i have a 32-bit tput... Jan 14 20:10:17 --> octalpussy (~octalpuss@cs6711231-182.satx.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:10:18 --> tech (tech@213.151.155.71.dsl.kvalito.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:10:33 Alan_Hicks, I've got one but not of the entire convo. I joined about 20 minutes ago Jan 14 20:10:40 AthlonRob: what kind of funky you talking about ? Pam works ok for me Jan 14 20:10:40 meta-ridley: Todd Kuelza did that. (I'm probably butchering his last name) Jan 14 20:10:41 unixfool amazing how many people are suddenly here today acting like regulars :-) Jan 14 20:10:45 rombeh, try using netstat to see what program has that port open Jan 14 20:10:51 volkerdi : i used to run a server from my dorm room. i had relaxed permissions on my audio device, until a user decided to wake me up in the middle of the night :) Jan 14 20:10:51 yeah, i know Jan 14 20:10:51 Well, I've gotta run. gotta get some lunch. Jan 14 20:10:58 so, fred87, who is going to keep your 64-bit running -current? Jan 14 20:11:00 volkerdi: Yeah, I'm well aware of those... GDM/XDM don't give us the magic group support that /bin/login does, not to mention possible ssh logins... It starts to get ugly fast without the console helper Jan 14 20:11:01 80% of the room usually ghosts Jan 14 20:11:04 Zalamander: haha, I just joined because my friend told Pat is here now :P Jan 14 20:11:07 * Motoko-chan is just a visitor Jan 14 20:11:16 Zalamander: a lot of us are regulars on other servers, coming over because good news travels fast =-) Jan 14 20:11:18 saxa, it tries to be more than just GNOME... if it installs PAM and its own X server, it's trying to fundamentally change Slack, which isn't what a lot of Slack users would like. Jan 14 20:11:21 damn kdebindings with python Jan 14 20:11:26 hehe Jan 14 20:11:27 thr1ce, um me :) Jan 14 20:11:28 <^Jenn> the other 20% are just retards Jan 14 20:11:33 for a start Jan 14 20:11:45 AthlonRob: this is only because its optimised to i686 Jan 14 20:11:46 I eat retards for brunch Jan 14 20:11:47 Motoko-chan, netstat -tupan | grep 162 < no output Jan 14 20:11:50 <-- usr13 has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 20:11:51 ^Jenn: lol...which do you fall under? Jan 14 20:11:53 :oP Jan 14 20:11:54 but...you're JUST a kde developer! :P Jan 14 20:11:59 <^Jenn> tard Jan 14 20:12:02 lol Jan 14 20:12:04 --> usr13 (~cap@h246-63-238-213.mesh.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:12:06 saxa, but it doesn't need to replace X or add PAM. Jan 14 20:12:07 AthlonRob: I agree its not the PAt's gnome Jan 14 20:12:09 shh Jan 14 20:12:09 at least you talk Jan 14 20:12:11 rombeh, you might just want to scan the output manually instead of using grep Jan 14 20:12:12 Not if you just want gnome Jan 14 20:12:17 I flick old women in the nose for fun Jan 14 20:12:17 ewww... a kde dev? i'm soooooo sorry! Jan 14 20:12:19 ahhh, I just got my ID appt moved to the 18th. Good, I should make it until then. Was 2/2 :P Jan 14 20:12:30 AthlonRob: this is just for comodyti of added progs Jan 14 20:12:45 meta-ridley: This is where I giggle. No, I did not create Dropline. I had my own thing going when dropline started and I was "faked out" by the website so I never bothered to publish. When Todd K made his "I'm quitting" announcement, I came to give my condolences, and saw that my code actually was needed. I ported probably 80-90% of my build system over and am as quickly as I can fixing up everything that seems even a little not ri Jan 14 20:12:49 Hey, volkerdi, but the further back the appointment goes, the more faith they have in your health :-) Jan 14 20:12:50 AthlonRob: Its because we've had the luxury of being an optional gnome that tries to be a better desktop. Jan 14 20:13:18 Motoko-chan, but if i paste the output here then I'm kicked by room :D Jan 14 20:13:19 dagmar: so you took over the project? Jan 14 20:13:24 volkerdi, out of curiosity, what is your uptime? Jan 14 20:13:25 i have a question. my system says that 800 mb of 800 is used and i wonder how because is in a kind of idle i don't think is posible Jan 14 20:13:26 AthlonRob: sh*t, you're right. I'm probably in deep. Jan 14 20:13:28 volkerdi: you wouldn't happen to remember why util-linux.SlackBuild grabs the system's current /usr/bin/tput? Jan 14 20:13:44 dagmar: good luck sorting out the mess :) Jan 14 20:13:45 meta-ridley: he's one of the devs now, he maintains the installer and teh new build system and I also think he builds some packages Jan 14 20:13:46 meta-ridley: I'm not taking over anything. I'm very familiar with anarchistic management models. So far I'm just the guy producing a lot of code no one wants to argue with. ;) Jan 14 20:13:56 11:13:07 up 409 days, 1:54, 3 users, load average: 0.49, 0.74, 0.59 Jan 14 20:13:59 Paul_Best, okay... I'm not trying to say Dropline is crap... I'm just saying it's trying to be more than Slackware. It's just another choice... it's just not what a lot of folks want if they just want Gnome. Jan 14 20:14:00 whoa Jan 14 20:14:03 nice uptime Jan 14 20:14:04 sunbx2 : again, you need to do some research on your own. linux caches a lot of disk i/o. you still have free memory, it's just used for cache. Jan 14 20:14:09 mine is half that Jan 14 20:14:10 volkerdi, what kernel is that then? Jan 14 20:14:23 2.4.29. ;-) Jan 14 20:14:24 AthlonRob: Thats why I'm kind of sad to see gnome in slackware by default go. Jan 14 20:14:25 mo699898, there's no service listing on 162 Jan 14 20:14:30 ananke thx. Jan 14 20:14:35 Motoko-chan, there's no service listing on 162 Jan 14 20:14:41 nice! :) Jan 14 20:14:53 now if i said that, i would have had my colon ripped out for running 2.4.x Jan 14 20:14:54 2.6.10 Jan 14 20:14:54 Dagmar: i thought dropline was just supposed to provide an easy way to upgrade to the current gnome from 9.1 because it was based on packages not included in that release? is there still a use for it? Jan 14 20:14:55 Paul_Best, It sounds like other people have already started working on picking up the slack and doing it themselves (aside from Dropline) Jan 14 20:14:55 hehe Jan 14 20:14:59 Motoko-chan, there's no service listening on 162 Jan 14 20:15:10 i like 2.4 kernel Jan 14 20:15:15 2.4.28 is very nice Jan 14 20:15:17 rombeh : really, no need to repeat. it's not like we're lacking traffic right now Jan 14 20:15:30 no msgs please. put 'er all out in the open. Jan 14 20:15:33 most people jump on the "latest/greates" bandwagon Jan 14 20:15:40 AthlonRob: I hope somebody does make a good default gnome for slackware. We might even do it if nobody else does. Jan 14 20:15:41 octalpussy: 9.1 is dead. Long live 10.x. Secondly, Pat's not making GNome packages for the new releases, and I don't blame him because they're beastly to figure out Jan 14 20:15:53 guys, don't bombard volkerdi with /msgs pls Jan 14 20:15:58 I'm running 2.6, mostly to test it out. It isn't on anything critical Jan 14 20:15:58 Paul_Best, people already know Dropline, so if y'all *did* have two choices, that might be ideal. Jan 14 20:15:59 ananke, i'm sorry Jan 14 20:16:03 but the 2.6.10 wont boot with a generic from cd Jan 14 20:16:03 how did you get 409, using a new kernel, w/o rebooting? Jan 14 20:16:11 I'd feel better grabbing a "GNOME ONLY" package from y'all than some noname on LP.net. Jan 14 20:16:13 Dagmar: We've got how many people now working on dropline now? Jan 14 20:16:18 whats the slackware wiki webpage Jan 14 20:16:22 octalpussy: For my part, I just want things to install in a plain vanilla fashion so we don't wind up straying far from what the Gnome devs are expecting (which generally incurs less breakage when they jump up revisions) Jan 14 20:16:27 slackwiki.org Jan 14 20:16:34 dagmar: doesn't dropline use rpms or something? Jan 14 20:16:36 Dagmar: ahhh, i forgot about it being dropped... i know we've all moved on to 10.0, which is why i didn't really see a use for dropline... personally i can't stand gnome or kde, so i don't really follow it, but folks in our channel seem infatuated it, so i asked =-) Jan 14 20:16:45 Paul_Best: Somewhere between a dozen and eighteen I think Jan 14 20:16:59 --> nirr (1000@bzq-232-29.red.bezeqint.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:17:04 unixfool: thank you Jan 14 20:17:07 how did you manage such a big uptime, without rebooting for the new kernel? Jan 14 20:17:18 <_erik> Paul_Best there's already a project working on it. stable and complete gnome, nothing more (dropline) nothing less (slack's gnome) Jan 14 20:17:19 no problem Jan 14 20:17:29 meta-ridley: Umm... due to a lack of uninstallation script support in pkgtools, this would be substantially easier to do with RPMs, but no, it's using regular old Slackware tgz packages Jan 14 20:17:41 i'm trying to get siked up to pick up my kids from school :o/ Jan 14 20:17:50 I was personally happy with windows 3.1. I would be happy with a window manager like that Jan 14 20:17:53 --> seemawn (~zomtec@p508101AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:17:58 three_11: if you don't compile in all the wacky features (esp networking stuff) then most kernel security bugs will not affect you. Jan 14 20:18:04 thr1ce: He's one of those evil binary patcher people. ;) Jan 14 20:18:04 I'm happy with the console. Jan 14 20:18:09 --> eelriverlt (~murph@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:18:16 <_erik> actually i'm adding a p4 2.4g to the project right now to speed things up Jan 14 20:18:20 and yes, you can load patch modules too Jan 14 20:18:21 MindChild: how many times have we told you? fluxbox is your god now ;-) Jan 14 20:18:30 volkerdi, so... gotta wonder... are you using the vanilla Slackware kernel or did you custom compile your kernel? :-) Jan 14 20:18:32 volkerdi, you are a kernel maintainer too? Jan 14 20:18:47 neat Jan 14 20:18:51 octalpussy: actually, I use a very patched windowmaker. Ive been changing that bitch for years Jan 14 20:19:04 volkerdi : so here's a 100 point question: pam. do you think it will ever get your 'ok'? Jan 14 20:19:10 Normally I use the same kernel binaries everyone else gets from me. Not always though. Jan 14 20:19:17 ok...i'm gonna quote pat on what he just said about compiling wacky features Jan 14 20:19:21 the vanilla Jan 14 20:19:43 macro'd Jan 14 20:19:50 ananke: only if it's crammed down my throat with extreme force. Like, _everything_ begins to require it (not just GNOME ;-) Jan 14 20:20:01 pam seems a nice idea. Jan 14 20:20:10 PAM sucks Jan 14 20:20:12 pam is satan Jan 14 20:20:12 But the execution does seem very flawed. Jan 14 20:20:12 <-- sunbx2 has quit () Jan 14 20:20:14 volkerdi : yeah, unfortunately that's becoming a necessity. especially ldap. Jan 14 20:20:19 yea i think pam should be left out for as long as possible :P Jan 14 20:20:21 pam is evil, but it has its uses Jan 14 20:20:24 LDAP also sucks Jan 14 20:20:26 ananke: I wouldn't even put it in the kernel. Unless you need some very specific things (which DL actually does) PAM is a bloody big pain in the butt Jan 14 20:20:28 I've got to agree Pam is a bitch, but its a necessary bitch for us. Jan 14 20:20:35 anake: er s/kernel/distro Jan 14 20:20:36 but this is coming from a solaris nut, so my opinion is skewed ;-) Jan 14 20:20:37 i dont authenticate to a radius or ldap server so i could care less about it Jan 14 20:20:39 volkerdi: What do you think about moving to GCC 3.4.3 in Current? Jan 14 20:20:41 who is PAM and why does she wants Pat's approval ??? Jan 14 20:20:45 --> Cyclonus (~Cyclonus@blfd-d9bb8035.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:20:45 heh Jan 14 20:20:46 lol Jan 14 20:20:48 i mean, the solaris security test is like 60% pam Jan 14 20:21:01 that's solaris for you Jan 14 20:21:02 anyone: what is the mechanism called that slackware uses for authentication? BSD style? Jan 14 20:21:03 lol Jan 14 20:21:11 yeah, we call it BSD-style Jan 14 20:21:11 funny... i saw an add for solaris 10 the other day Jan 14 20:21:14 volkerdi, it's very admirable that you're answering our questions like this Jan 14 20:21:17 also known as slackware Jan 14 20:21:18 greenshoe : shadow Jan 14 20:21:19 thanks :) Jan 14 20:21:21 and it said "runs on over 250 systems!" Jan 14 20:21:28 * fred87 doubts that it's "8-char passwords" Jan 14 20:21:29 I'm using ProFTPd instead of vsftpd because I don't want to deal with pam for virtual users. Jan 14 20:21:31 i've yet to read the govt's requirements for PAM though, because we do use solaris alot Jan 14 20:21:42 octalpussy: Pam is that chick in the security department who's just gotten back from ISO training and thinks it's okay to have a keylock with time controls on the men's bthroom. Jan 14 20:21:48 <-- rokvel has quit ("well, have fun you freaks :P") Jan 14 20:21:53 hahahahahaha Jan 14 20:21:54 does that mean that at least 250 machines in the world run solaris? Jan 14 20:21:58 meta-ridley, if Sun sells one more copy, they'll have to change the adverts Jan 14 20:21:59 --> Epidemic1l (~mmelin@c-e0d7e055.214-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:21:59 three_11: thanks. I'm sure I must be stirring up future trouble though... Jan 14 20:21:59 pam does have a good side Jan 14 20:22:00 meta-ridley: seems like it ;) Jan 14 20:22:11 the idea of pam is nifty, the implementation does indeed suck. however, besides nis, ldap is the only other feasible option for a lot of people Jan 14 20:22:14 oops, wrong name :) Jan 14 20:22:15 it makes it so that those proximity auto-logout sensors from thinkgeek work in linux Jan 14 20:22:22 meta-ridley: Probably. I used to be responsible for about 100 or so of them. Jan 14 20:22:26 my SCHOOL has over 250 solaris machines... Jan 14 20:22:27 dagmar: haha Jan 14 20:22:37 volkerdi, why do you say you are causing trouble? Jan 14 20:22:38 i know we've thousands Jan 14 20:22:39 Solaris 10? Jan 14 20:22:42 in a single room Jan 14 20:22:44 plural Jan 14 20:22:55 " GNOME heads: there's this thing called Ubuntu..." <<< that should be in fortune :P Jan 14 20:23:00 <-- Murda-ra has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 20:23:00 with solaris 10, moreso, because the x86 implementation is finally *useable* Jan 14 20:23:01 we love you here, stay with us! Jan 14 20:23:03 hahah Jan 14 20:23:06 lol Jan 14 20:23:08 --> t4ch1k0m4 (~t4ch1k0m4@wrbs-ip-nas-1-p481.telkom-ipnet.co.za) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:23:12 i missed that one Jan 14 20:23:14 I have yet to play with Solaris 10. Jan 14 20:23:16 Squall`: because I'm not remaining silent on seriously controversial topics Jan 14 20:23:17 Been too busy Jan 14 20:23:21 octalpussy: really.. does it have decent hardware support now? Jan 14 20:23:46 volkerdi, better than people in here pretending like they know Jan 14 20:23:47 yeah, half the room blew up when talking about gnome Jan 14 20:23:56 volkerdi, well, i can't force you to stay here, but it's not like we're not discussing controversial topics anyway Jan 14 20:23:56 yes, it supports hardware now Jan 14 20:23:59 Usually this leads to the developers of whatever I've bad-mouthed flaming the bejeezus out of me in email later... Jan 14 20:24:10 meta-ridley: yeah, it was completely redesigned from the ground up... it's no longer a slap-shod port trying to shove a square into a round hole... it was actually DESIGNED for x86, independently of the rest of solaris development Jan 14 20:24:11 but we all appreciate having you here Jan 14 20:24:13 * Alan_Hicks returns. Jan 14 20:24:15 volkerdi : so i guess my next question would be: how hard is pam being forced down your throat? :) Jan 14 20:24:18 --> bon` (~bon@blackmamba.local.sk) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:24:25 ah well, its not like you get much Email anyway... Jan 14 20:24:27 that's why i can't stand slashdot Jan 14 20:24:28 heh Jan 14 20:24:28 volkerdi, yeah, but what can they do? :-) ...I'm sure you've developed a thick skin by now. Jan 14 20:24:37 ananke: About .001% as hard as it would have to be. Jan 14 20:24:38 volkerdi: if any dropline users badmouth you and flame you, I'm going to kick the crap out of them. Jan 14 20:24:44 volkerdi: btw for an unofficial slackware port's default kernel: what would be your opinion on two one-line patches (2.6 kernel for compat reasons): first stops sata_nv timinig out, second makes sata optical drives work Jan 14 20:24:47 what about visually empaired packages ? Jan 14 20:24:48 volkerdi: thanks for your work !!! I hope you get soon soon soon at your full health Jan 14 20:25:06 fred87: Hehe. That's a good sum up of why I'm still on 2.4.x kernels. Heh Jan 14 20:25:13 ...soooo about them bsdgames package.... Jan 14 20:25:17 :-D Jan 14 20:25:27 volkerdi, First, thank you. Second, the new gimp release (2.2.*) can becompiled without gtk support, any reason you decided not to use that flag this time around? It worked well for me editing your script to include that flag. Jan 14 20:25:30 * unixfool bows out...gotta clean up and pick up my kids Jan 14 20:25:36 volkerdi : ahh, i see. thanks. i guess i'll have to figure a way to deal with ldap issues Jan 14 20:25:39 dagmar: sata dvd writers on silicon image controllers don't work with 2.4 :P and 2.6 has much improved amd64 support :P Jan 14 20:25:43 fred87: I'm strongly vanilla on x86, but other archs (even, I imagine x86_64) are likely to need a patch or two because that's always been the case Jan 14 20:25:56 fred87 : which was the last 2.4.x you tried? Jan 14 20:25:59 --> At0mic_PC (1000@host-216-77-193-44.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:26:06 volkerdi: don't be a stranger, man! enjoyed the chats here...get well soon Jan 14 20:26:08 octalpussy: hmmm interesting.. ill have to mess around with it sometime. i wouldn't mind learning some more about the os itself. there's alot of proprietary stuff goin on with it. Jan 14 20:26:11 fred87: well, thank goodness I don't have any of that hardware then. he Jan 14 20:26:13 ananke my LDAP solution -- I talked the boss into switching to an SQL-based authentication system :-) Jan 14 20:26:15 yes- four in a row is IMPOSSIBLE to beat Jan 14 20:26:15 what exactly do you mean by 'vanilla', is that a metaphor for being plain? Jan 14 20:26:19 volkerdi: this is x86_64 - just two small specific hardware probs with nforce3 mobos and dvd drives Jan 14 20:26:25 fred87: I only fix bugs though, never add features. That's for the kernel team to decide. Jan 14 20:26:26 ananke, .29 Jan 14 20:26:31 <-- bon` has quit (Client Quit) Jan 14 20:26:39 --> Murda-ra (~murdara@bunuel-cpe-1.nat-pool.bgd.sbb.co.yu) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:26:48 --> Destructo (~destructo@pool-68-161-61-190.ny325.east.verizon.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:26:49 vanilla likely is being used to mean unchanged in features Jan 14 20:26:55 fred87 : ahh. i just tried 2.4.28 and i was really surprised with the sata support [pleasantly surprised] Jan 14 20:26:56 * thr1ce has never beaten four in a row Jan 14 20:26:56 well first makes it so kernel doesn't find your hard disk, second makes it so kernel doesn't find your dvd drive :P Jan 14 20:26:57 meta-ridley: it's definitely worth playing with... i'm finding the market share has drastically increased in my area since the release of 10... they're doing some hard core marketing, really pushing it out there, even to mid-sized businesses, a market they've largely ignored in the past Jan 14 20:26:58 at least in this instance Jan 14 20:26:59 hey hey moto Jan 14 20:26:59 yummmm vanilla Jan 14 20:27:00 Squall`: That's what people usually mean by that, year Jan 14 20:27:06 i need somecdrecord help Jan 14 20:27:07 s/year/yeah/ Jan 14 20:27:08 Zalamander : how do you plug in everything else into that system? Jan 14 20:27:20 hehe, many from there now here Jan 14 20:27:30 orlan here also.. Jan 14 20:27:38 ananke: the ide-sata support (as found in 2.4) works, but not as writer Jan 14 20:27:46 Excepting one thing... that damn autorun.sh support is being turned off by default for DL no matter what the Gnome devs have to say about iut. Jan 14 20:27:47 that needs 2.6.10, and the libata driver Jan 14 20:27:55 fred87 : i was talking about libata in 2.4.x Jan 14 20:27:57 ananke in-house programming. We don't have any 3rd party apps that demand LDAP for auth. Jan 14 20:27:59 --> bon_ (~bon@nadrzana.susulka.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:28:05 <-- nirr has quit ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") Jan 14 20:28:06 <-- rh0` has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 14 20:28:07 ananke: oh i didn't notice that creep in :) Jan 14 20:28:24 so people see you next time bye bye :) Jan 14 20:28:25 Zalamander : i see. i need something for pretty much 'everything', starting from unix shells to web apps, etc Jan 14 20:28:31 any chance you could do a quick grep of the changelog and say if libata in 2.4 supports atapi? Jan 14 20:28:33 <-- saxa (~sasa@host245-95.pool217223.interbusiness.it) has left ##slackware ("I go away ....") Jan 14 20:28:56 ananke I guess NIS isn't sufficient? How about kerberos? Does that require PAM? Jan 14 20:29:11 nis :\ Jan 14 20:29:19 <-- dodo_ has quit ("good night") Jan 14 20:29:22 --> smig (~Le@ALille-108-1-18-62.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:29:42 Zalamander : it's hard to plug nis into everything, and nis just doesn't cut it for everything Jan 14 20:29:43 --> Matej (~matej@d5152A342.kabel.telenet.be) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:29:58 ok Jan 14 20:30:10 Zalamander : and to plugin ldap you pretty much have to use pam. the nssldap libraries don't give you everything Jan 14 20:30:31 See, things like PAM, Kerberos, LDAP... these fall into the category of if you try to be a jack of all trades you'll be a master of none. Jan 14 20:30:55 volkerdi: Agreed. Anyone who needs those needs to be good enough to do 'em hisself anyway. Jan 14 20:31:30 Alan_Hicks : uhmm, this means a lot of work Jan 14 20:31:32 Pat, when is your next visit here> Jan 14 20:31:34 ? Jan 14 20:31:34 <-- nirrr has quit (Connection timed out) Jan 14 20:31:42 sadly we are requiring to go standard with LDAP across the board with our servers. Higher-ups want a single place to add/remove/modify users Jan 14 20:31:42 ananke: Only one time. Keep your packages. :^) Jan 14 20:31:44 personally, i have my solaris boxes to play with that stuff, slackware is on my desktop and laptop... why would i need pam on there? Jan 14 20:32:08 Alan_Hicks heh, in the Real World people work for Companies that provide Services. Not everyone is an unemployed hobbyist. Jan 14 20:32:19 I'm off for home Jan 14 20:32:22 have a good evening and weekend all Jan 14 20:32:25 <-- Dominian has quit ("heading /home") Jan 14 20:32:32 Alan_Hicks : which you still want to keep up to date. at that point it becomes a different distro almost Jan 14 20:32:33 <-- Squall` has quit ("Leaving") Jan 14 20:32:39 Zalamander: Careful with your words. I'm head geek for such a c comapny. Jan 14 20:32:48 octalpussy: If you want to get really, really kinky you can get one of those Schlumberg PCMCIA smart card readers for authentication... those require PAM Jan 14 20:32:51 ananke: That's a concern I worry about too. Jan 14 20:33:03 octalpussy, personally I just use slackware to chat here :) Jan 14 20:33:07 Dagmar: actually... i've looked at them, hehee... i just couldn't justify the expense Jan 14 20:33:12 Alan_Hicks I am always careful with my words. Your own $15 business license doesn't count :-) Jan 14 20:33:27 rombeh: well yeah... that's about all i do on my desktop or laptop ;-) Jan 14 20:33:35 octalpussy: You might wanna look again. Mention the magic word "developer" and some models become available for like $99 Jan 14 20:33:37 heh Jan 14 20:33:39 Zalamander: No hard feelings. Jan 14 20:33:53 Regarding PAM, ever look at how many things in need extensive patching to work with PAM? It hardly drops right in. Jan 14 20:33:58 Alan_Hicks none taken Jan 14 20:34:01 Dagmar: i'm a student and currently between livelihoods... $9 is out of my price range, let alone $99, heheheh Jan 14 20:34:11 Alan_Hicks ; i manage plenty of servers and workstations. using slackware as the foundation is great, it allowes me to add whatever i want. the pam/ldap problem is that it would require me to replace underlying slackware essentials, which i'm hesitant to do Jan 14 20:34:19 <-- Epidemical has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 20:34:39 ananke funny thing -- I work on RedHat boxes, so PAM is there. LDAP is still awful. Horribly slow. Difficult to maintain. We had to write an entire API to interact with it anyway. So why not use our own? Jan 14 20:34:41 Most people don't realize that in other distros many more packages are forks of upstream than in Slackware. Jan 14 20:34:51 ananke: Meaning that you wind up making your own sorta-Slack distro. Jan 14 20:34:57 Zalamander: it's patched through the roof on RH Jan 14 20:35:03 --> xxdancexx (~Dede@host168-34.pool8174.interbusiness.it) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:35:06 everything is patched in RH Jan 14 20:35:07 <-- smig (~Le@ALille-108-1-18-62.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) has left ##slackware ("waiting for the crystal ship") Jan 14 20:35:10 volkerdi: is firefox/thunderbird combo acceptable to replace mozilla soon ? Jan 14 20:35:17 Zalamander : i don't have the man power right now to do that much development in house, unfortunately Jan 14 20:35:18 hehe, my first Slackware was Slackware-3.0.1 with linux-2.0.0 Jan 14 20:35:20 nah, things aren't patched in RH, they're duct taped, hahaha Jan 14 20:35:20 and then people don't understand why Slack is far more stable. Jan 14 20:35:29 RH = slooooow Jan 14 20:35:34 --> rh0` (~rolando@host-205-241-35-189.acelerate.net) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:35:36 Zalamander, and so easy Jan 14 20:35:44 fhobia: Maybe in 11. Good thing all the Gecko based browsers are gone, huh? :-) Jan 14 20:35:51 ananke bummer. well, maybe someone will come up with some production software for us eventually to supplant LDAP Jan 14 20:35:55 :) Jan 14 20:36:09 Zalamander : that would be nice. along with a decent networked filesystem Jan 14 20:36:12 dmesg Jan 14 20:36:15 oops Jan 14 20:36:17 volkerdi: On a different note, I suspect the Good Book will be in a finished state before 11.0. Jan 14 20:36:28 volkerdi: btw thanks a lot for the way you've done KDE :) the thing that bought me back from SuSE was that using KDE CVS completetly hoses the base of suse Jan 14 20:36:31 oh, no, my Firefox Jan 14 20:36:46 Alan_Hicks: Excellent. Jan 14 20:37:12 volkerdi: Just check the site sometime. :^) http://slackbook.lizella.net Jan 14 20:37:20 <-- seemawn has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jan 14 20:37:21 <-- ximpul has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 14 20:37:31 things calmed down Jan 14 20:37:33 but i think the slack default mozilla is to big Jan 14 20:37:35 Good Book? eh? I wish I could scroll up. lol Jan 14 20:37:36 hmm wonder if lilo compiles for x86_64 :D Jan 14 20:37:56 jabooty-work: I'm working on revising the book at slackware.com/book. Jan 14 20:37:58 and too slow Jan 14 20:37:59 * fred87 is *NOT* looking forward to compiling OOo Jan 14 20:38:00 hey thr1ce Jan 14 20:38:00 fuzzbawl : yeah, the non-regulars can't keep up forever :) Jan 14 20:38:05 fred87: Why bother? You do have 32 bit support, right? Jan 14 20:38:07 Alan_Hicks: thanks :) Jan 14 20:38:09 hehehe Jan 14 20:38:19 volkerdi: i will do later Jan 14 20:38:25 ahh Jan 14 20:38:26 --> ximpul (~ximpul@24-193-75-80.nyc.rr.com) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:38:26 i'm keeping system completely 32-bit clean atm Jan 14 20:38:27 Anyone wanna volunteer to do the chapter on X? Jan 14 20:38:28 ananke, then there's us "weekday" regulars Jan 14 20:38:32 * foureyes78 offers his CPU time to compile programs Jan 14 20:38:45 just to make sure that i don't accidentally compile something for 32-bit Jan 14 20:39:02 Alan_Hicks, xorg? Jan 14 20:39:04 why lilo and grub don't compile on 64bits, is it so different? Jan 14 20:39:07 if i do, it won't work :P Jan 14 20:39:10 fuzzbawl: Yeah. Jan 14 20:39:20 i could take a crack at it Jan 14 20:39:25 welll folks, I feel my energy seriously waning, and think I'd better head out again. Jan 14 20:39:28 i did have 6 LCD's running w/Xinerama Jan 14 20:39:32 I don't know when's the last time I configured X. Jan 14 20:39:39 volkerdi: and although it's useless, gentoo/fedora/ubuntu/suse all proudly proclaim "fully 64-bit userspace" Jan 14 20:39:39 * foureyes78 only has an 2200XP but has lots of time Jan 14 20:39:40 volkerdi: Take care, and don't be a stranger. :^) Jan 14 20:39:43 :P Jan 14 20:39:44 man, this is worse than when I had mono Jan 14 20:39:51 lol Jan 14 20:40:01 volkerdi, i've always been stereo, never mono Jan 14 20:40:02 har har Jan 14 20:40:02 I'll try to make it around here from time to time if I can. Jan 14 20:40:16 Take care of yourself, volkerdi Jan 14 20:40:20 volkerdi-> thx for stopping by, take care Jan 14 20:40:21 Stay away from AOLS if you've heart trouble. :^) Jan 14 20:40:21 volkerdi, thanks, and hope you feel more energetic soon Jan 14 20:40:22 volkerdi: take care, get healthy, worry about yourself first, we'll still love you! Jan 14 20:40:23 take care Jan 14 20:40:33 volkerdi: tnx for the GREAT distro Jan 14 20:40:35 --> shasta (shasta@shasta.user.irssi) has joined ##slackware Jan 14 20:40:38 yeah. if you think this is bad, definitely stay away from a.o.l.s. Jan 14 20:40:43 volkerdi, hope you feel better. Thanks for everything you give to the community! Jan 14 20:40:53 hey, thanks everyone. It's been nice talking to all of you. Jan 14 20:40:56 peace Jan 14 20:40:58 Back at ya. Jan 14 20:40:58 volkerdi: take care, guess you're gonna get some emails about dropping gnome though, when the news gets out Jan 14 20:41:01 volkerdi: hi! Jan 14 20:41:01 volkerdi, eat good, take care ... Jan 14 20:41:02 <-- guigui has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jan 14 20:41:07 Marverick: it's old news Jan 14 20:41:10 the news is already out, isn't it mario? Jan 14 20:41:11 PiterPunk: Howdy. Jan 14 20:41:12 ooops. Jan 14 20:41:16 i mean, it's been in the changelog Jan 14 20:41:20 we need to log this channel somewhere. lol Jan 14 20:41:20 and it's not in --current Jan 14 20:41:21 The Bitch doesn't guess well :) Jan 14 20:41:27 lol Jan 14 20:41:32 octalpussy: well, ##slackware is not the same as fp on /., osnews, footnotes etc etc :P Jan 14 20:41:33 hmm Jan 14 20:41:35 volkerdi-> eat pomigranites, i hear it fixes everything.... Jan 14 20:41:35 irssi man Jan 14 20:41:39 * rombeh is awa